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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and this is the start of hour

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Speaker 2: number two of the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: And uh, well, we're closing in on five o'clock here,

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Speaker 2: it's five o'clock now on the opening salvo of free agency.

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Speaker 2: It's been We're five hours in and honestly, Matt, this

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Speaker 2: year hasn't been as crazy as some other years.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't been. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that

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Speaker 3: led up to it over the weekend. Restructures, trades, Metcalf

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Speaker 3: obviously a big one, a couple of.

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Speaker 4: Quarterback moves, Miles Garrett, Stiles Garrett, big new deal in Cleveland,

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen, you know, sign money, How money solved that

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden need to win and we make

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Speaker 4: you this the highest paid player ever that's not a

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Speaker 4: non quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And I'm close. I'm sure the Cowboy aren't thrilled.

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Speaker 2: About it, or the Bengals, right right, all of.

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Speaker 3: A sudden, there's a lot of money flying around. But no,

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Speaker 3: today hasn't been insane. I mean there's been a constant flow.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of them are smaller deals too, I mean

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Speaker 3: they're not super consequential.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh yeah, the uh, the Miles Garrett thing

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Speaker 2: is so reminiscent of the of the Deshaun Watson deal

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Speaker 2: that Deshaun Watson had crossed Cleveland off of his list,

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Speaker 2: right he said, no, I'm I'm not signing with the Browns.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to concentrate. I think it was on Carolina,

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Speaker 2: one of these two teams. I think he's from that

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden Cleveland said, well, wait

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Speaker 2: a second, we're going to back more money back to

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Speaker 2: trial with all money, and they end up doing it

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Speaker 2: and he signs it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't ever want to hear him talk about winning

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Speaker 3: So the Browns, I've said this on the air a

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Speaker 3: thousand times. The Browns and Saints to me are the

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Speaker 3: teams that should tank, and anyone listens to us, we're

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Speaker 3: not tank guys, you know. But sometimes it gets to

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Speaker 3: the point of no return. Financially, you pushed all your

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Speaker 3: chips in your lost you got to start over that.

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Speaker 3: I thought Miles garretted them a favor, that they could

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Speaker 3: be self aware enough to say, let's just draft like crazy,

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Speaker 3: yeah and build this for twenty twenty eight or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But their answer to everything, and the Saints are the

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Speaker 3: same way is Saints just lived to play another day,

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Speaker 3: you know, Like, I'm gonna get back to the Browns.

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Speaker 3: But they turn all cars money into a signing bonus.

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Speaker 3: So fine, he's going to be their quarterback this year,

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Speaker 3: but he's like an eighty million dollar cap hit next

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Speaker 3: Like what did that buy you? In New Orleans?

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Speaker 2: He got them cap space?

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Speaker 3: Oh I know, but one more win? I mean, I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand the big picture logic.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't cut him because it would have cost the money,

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Speaker 2: so they had to redo the deal. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is a corner they backed themselves in. They had to

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Speaker 2: redo the deal to survive, to survive, and they said, well,

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Speaker 2: if that's the case, they're not worried about one more win.

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Speaker 2: They're worried about being able to field a team. And

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Speaker 2: getting under that cap compliant. That's what that was all about.

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Speaker 2: And there's no love there for in fact, I saw

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they could because they paid.

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Speaker 2: They have to again eat the eat the cap hit

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Speaker 3: With him after the Browns.

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Speaker 2: They haven't done that with Watson ever, No, no, no, I

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Speaker 3: And so is the Eagles. But one of them smart

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Speaker 2: Eagles have better players.

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Speaker 3: As I say, they use the money on the right people,

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Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about this. So the Eagles tore up

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley's contract basically and gave him. I think it's

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Speaker 3: I forgot what the number is, but yeah, it's highest

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Speaker 2: That was not smart, That was not thinking ahead. He

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Speaker 3: No, I think that's a morale thing that you're so good.

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Speaker 3: We want to that's a locker room thing. You know

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Speaker 2: Financially it wasn't at all. It wasn't a smart deal. No,

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Speaker 2: they did not have to do that, and everybody don't

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Speaker 2: that sure worked out, but you're also now on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they do that all the time. I mean

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Speaker 2: Eight cap is crazy, them a mess insane, right, they're

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Speaker 3: Going and it has doesn't mean it will. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: all their money. I still don't understand the Browns. I

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Speaker 3: And Garrett's a much better player and a much better person.

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Speaker 2: He He did try to murder Mason Rudolph on the

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Speaker 2: He is not Deshaun Watson in terms of being that

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: I've done it myself on when I've been competing in

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Speaker 2: the heat of battle. Stuff happens, But don't then lie

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Speaker 3: But I would have no problem investing in that player. No,

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Speaker 3: the player is great, and as my locker room guy,

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Speaker 3: it's not Watson. I mean, like Watson to me is

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Speaker 3: making the deal with the devil. And you knew that

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Speaker 3: going in, right. This is a guy you drafted who's

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Speaker 2: Is he worth forty million? It doesn't really even matter

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Speaker 2: in today's Don't you're worth what? Somebody? Somebody said that

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Speaker 2: to me. Dan Moore's not worth twenty and a half

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, if Dan Warre's worth twenty miles, Garrett's

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But again, I just don't understand,

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Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand. Well, they've got the cheering

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Speaker 2: around Miles Garrett, despite your offensive line. Yeah, Joel Potonio

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Speaker 2: not the same Joel Patonio he was five years ago.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. These are band aids are gaping wound.

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Speaker 2: You know. By the way, now you get a pay

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Speaker 2: Joel Potonio, like you'd have been better off him taking

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Speaker 3: Better all of them and turn them all in the

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Speaker 3: think Steeler fans should look at this like Browns are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, haven't met it.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals, meanwhile, they haven't exactly.

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Speaker 3: They're not really interested in defense.

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Speaker 2: Torn up, No, apparently not. They re signed Hill the

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Speaker 2: Signing today was uh turtell Slayton?

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Speaker 2: they did some stuff. Who they signed to award today?

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Speaker 2: Seven and a half million dollars a year deal. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what the defensive tackle? No, I don't know who that is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, now their defense looks no better at all. Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they can do a lot of draft stuff defensively,

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Speaker 3: but that has not worked out at all for them in.

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Speaker 2: The past couple of years. They just signed Gasicki to

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Speaker 3: I think it brought Cody Ford back.

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Speaker 2: You don't have enough offense to get it, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Riccard left today. I don't know if they can do

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Speaker 3: But then you better draft tight end two. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Now I think they did. It goes back to what

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Speaker 2: I've been saying all along. The Steelers have the resources

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Speaker 2: team in the league, in the division inner division, I

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Speaker 3: Like I honestly think this time last year their plan was, well,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again you saw this year, you know, we've

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Speaker 3: You know those guys are going ahead of DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 2: Do you see some comps there between Metcalf's game and

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Speaker 3: He's a better contested catch guy. Think he's better after

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And also last year's Seattle offense is a hard watch.

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Speaker 2: And thus he got fired, you know. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 2: So you have some you have some teams like the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: They had Tom Brady and grow and blah blah blahh Right,

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Speaker 3: But I mentioned before, percentage of Cap Metcalf's contract that

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Speaker 2: A going great And these contracts will say that about

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Speaker 3: No. Now, a lot of deals that happen or rumored

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Speaker 2: And I'm of guaranteed money involved, but that's it.

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Speaker 2: You're not getting And the other thing is you're.

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Speaker 3: Not overspending today. There always is.

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Speaker 2: You know you're Dan Moore, for example, isn't getting twenty

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Speaker 2: It'll be he'll count ten million dollars against nature or

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Speaker 3: I was talking about like Josh Allen's deal he signed,

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Speaker 3: hundreds of millions guaranteed. Like he's fine, they're not cutting

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Speaker 3: they're not cutting him. And what if he blows out

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lollie. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. And uh, well, let's the opening salvo

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Speaker 2: of the free agency period here, and uh, Matt over

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Speaker 2: the cap?

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Speaker 3: Is that word? Twice? Salvo?

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Speaker 2: I don't know that word. You're looking at me like

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Speaker 2: I have foreheads. I think you do. You're creative writing

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Speaker 2: major in college, for God's sake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was the path of least resixen, so

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Speaker 3: it doesn't mean not as good at it.

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Speaker 2: I guess it did take you six years to get there, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm getting what it means because you've used

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Speaker 2: it in context twice.

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Speaker 3: The opening.

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Speaker 2: The opening salvo is the first shots fired in a war. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: history reference fair enough. I assume all of our listeners know.

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Speaker 2: And no, no, come on, no, we didn't study that

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Speaker 2: in creative writing class though apparently it didn't study anything,

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Speaker 2: not much. Yeah. Anyways, so I'm looking here at over

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Speaker 2: the camp and they have kind of some of the

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Speaker 2: what the expenditures are thus far for each team. I

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Speaker 2: can't believe how well they keep up with it. It

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Speaker 2: has to be an amazing task. It has to be

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Speaker 2: an amazing task. Jason Otc this week is a rock star,

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Speaker 2: without a doubt, Without a doubt. So the Patriots have

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Speaker 2: given out contracts worth two hundred and six point five

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Speaker 2: million dollars. Wow, that is number one in terms of

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Speaker 2: the total in terms of the yearly total. The Seahawks Donald,

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Speaker 2: they've signed three guys at a total of one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty five point five million. The Patriots have signed

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Speaker 2: four for two hundred and six points.

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Speaker 3: We also Seattle have besides Donald, I mean, they traded Gino,

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Speaker 3: they traded Metcalf.

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Speaker 2: They've obviously made some signings were on the air. They

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Speaker 2: kept their linebacker Jones.

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Speaker 3: I assume of your own guys matter.

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Speaker 2: They count. Yeah, what you spent, all right? The Chiefs

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Speaker 2: have spent an average of well, they spent sixty two

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Speaker 2: point sixty seven. These aren't order he just kind of went, wait, oh,

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Speaker 2: now I got them in order there a uh so.

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Speaker 2: Third is the Packers at one hundred and forty eight

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Speaker 2: point three million for four players. The Rams have spent

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty one point three to five million

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Speaker 2: on four players. The Bears have spent one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty eight point four million on four players.

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Speaker 3: The Jets on the interior line, Bears move in two

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Speaker 3: days or whatever. Yeah, we just talk. I bought guard,

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Speaker 3: center guard. We saw it.

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Speaker 2: Gives you an idea of what this draft has.

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Speaker 3: I think it's brilliant by Chicago.

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Speaker 2: The interior off line are not good. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: I want birds in the hand. None of them are supers,

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Speaker 2: but their quality players in a Lions like manner. If

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Speaker 2: you want Caleb Williams be good, I need. I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to trust rookie guards that I'm taking in

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Speaker 2: the second round that should go in the fourth. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Jets are at one hundred and twenty two point

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Speaker 2: three million. The Buccaneers have spent one hundred and eleven million,

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Speaker 2: the Panthers ninety six million, the Cowboys ninety million, the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals eighty nine million. Broncos are at eighty eight. The

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Speaker 2: Lions are at seventy four and a half, the Giants

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Speaker 2: are at seventy four point four, Jaguars at sixty nine

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Speaker 2: point six, all the way at the bottom. Right now,

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Speaker 2: you've got three teams who've spent who's down to the bottom.

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Speaker 2: You've spent who have spent one point one seven million,

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Speaker 2: which is essentially to sign their restricted exclusive free agent.

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Speaker 2: The reason it's that number, Saints, Eagles and the Steelers. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they haven't technically agreed with anybody yet. A is a

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Speaker 2: true free agent?

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Speaker 3: Say have they not? Slays not on there?

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Speaker 2: He's not a free agent yet?

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough, So I don't know how

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Speaker 3: to respond to that they haven't. I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: Slagh is going to be a Steeler. So after the

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Speaker 3: DK Metcalf trade, right, which doesn't count, that's my signing, right, Yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Was a trade. They then released Larry Ogunjobi, which freed

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Speaker 2: up an additional seven million dollars. I believe I saw

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Speaker 2: the adjusted cap value for them at forty eight million

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Speaker 2: after after those two after the Metcalf trade.

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Speaker 3: How much does DK count against this?

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Speaker 2: Eighteen million?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Okay? So that was eleven million dollar loss. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: in those swaps.

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Speaker 2: So right now they're at like fifty five million. Do

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Speaker 2: they should be at fifty five million dollars in cap space? Okay,

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Speaker 2: still need to quarterbacks to a quarterback, sounds like something

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Speaker 2: will go to slag. But they haven't made the big

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Speaker 2: moves yet. They've kind of there's still a lot in

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Speaker 2: the bank. They've got a lot in the bank. And

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Speaker 2: you if you start looking at some of the teams

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Speaker 2: that had a ton to spend and have.

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Speaker 3: Overspent Patriots, Cardinals, they're going to.

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Speaker 2: Have more buying power when we do hit that that

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Speaker 2: second wave of free agency.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, when the prices come down and you start to

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Speaker 3: get values. Instead of I.

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Speaker 2: Will fill one hole, you fill three, you know, And

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Speaker 2: maybe it's not the top guy on your free agent list.

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Speaker 2: But that top guys aren't that impressive this year either.

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Speaker 2: Now that's the other thing. This was not a great

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Speaker 2: year for free agency.

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Speaker 3: I like Milton Williams, but is he the best defensive

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Speaker 3: player in free agency? Like, if that's the best guy

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Speaker 3: in free agency, it's not that great, you know, And

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Speaker 3: give me a slot corner for three million or whatever,

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Speaker 3: you know, and you get a couple of.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a reason why we saw the big

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Speaker 2: flurry of moves late last week and over the weekend

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Speaker 2: of teams re signing their own guys more so than

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Speaker 2: any time I can remember before the opening bell. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think teams starting to take a look

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Speaker 2: around and go, can you know, if you're the Buccaneers,

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Speaker 2: can we really let Chris Goblin get out onto the

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Speaker 2: open market? Here? Right, Let's let's get a sign.

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Speaker 3: Let's get that knocked out. An interesting position which didn't

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Speaker 3: really affect the Steelers, but we talked about after the

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Speaker 3: Hulk them move off. The ball linebackers looked like a

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Speaker 3: wealth of them hitting free agency and like none did

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Speaker 3: all their teams. Just like they all get paid. They

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Speaker 3: all get paid like the same contract.

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Speaker 2: The Patrick Queen deal. Yeah, now looks like a bargain

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Speaker 2: is compared to what some of these other guys. Robert

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Speaker 2: Splain got twelve point three million dollars a year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and guys better than him, like Jones I mentioned

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Speaker 3: with Seattle and uh, Buffalo kept their dude and the

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Speaker 3: Jets kept their dude. They're all good, young every down linebackers,

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Speaker 3: but they all got like the same deal, get like

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Speaker 3: fifteen million and a lot. Yeah, Steelers sitting at the

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Speaker 3: linebacker position, they're in pretty nice shape. Or without Roberts.

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Speaker 2: Twelve point three million dollars a year for Robert Spain, Right.

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Speaker 3: We've all seen that. I mean, he racks up tackles.

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Speaker 3: He's not a bad player, but I don't want him

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Speaker 3: out there every down. I don't want to pay him

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Speaker 3: twelve point three million dollars. No, absolutely not to be

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Speaker 3: a two down player. Right, And that's where the Patriots

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Speaker 3: are at. Like, it's great that the Steelers have a

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Speaker 3: ton of cap face, but if you don't have if

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Speaker 3: you can't invest in your own because you have such

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Speaker 3: bad players, having a ton of caps face isn't a curse.

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Speaker 3: But it's not as wonderful as you think it is. No,

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Speaker 3: it's different if you can give it to t J.

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Speaker 3: Watt and you know those type of dies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just again, I'm looking at some of these

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Speaker 2: deals that are well, how about this, Okay, guess who

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Speaker 2: the Browns' latest quarterback is, Kenny Picket?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Dorian Thompson Robinson in a fifth round pick

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Speaker 3: for Kenny Pickett. Have that folks are chuckling in the

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Speaker 3: room that aren't on camera how about that he could

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Speaker 3: be their opening day starter. I would say he's going

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Speaker 3: to be the leader in the clubhouse. He's going to

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Speaker 3: be their opening he may be the starter all year.

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Speaker 3: Next year, I say, I don't think they're going to

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Speaker 3: draft one. Schefter thinks they will.

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Speaker 2: Well, that was before this, but I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I certainly weren't going to go with Dorian to upson Robinson.

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Speaker 2: But I'll bet they don't take one at two. I'll

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Speaker 2: bet they. I bet they took a serious look at

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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders and said he's not the second pick in

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Speaker 2: the draft.

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Speaker 3: I hope they do.

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Speaker 2: But if Ward gets it too, I think they take him.

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Speaker 2: Don't think that's different. That's different. I think the Giants

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Speaker 2: trade up. I think Kirk Cousins will be their starter.

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Speaker 2: Rockie Wilson, I don't think he will. I think trading

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Speaker 2: for Kenny Pickett tells me that.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe they would think that's their answer for

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Speaker 3: the year. But he's their best option today, certainly noteworthy.

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Speaker 2: He's certainly better than what they have, and he's better.

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Speaker 2: He might be better than Kirk Cousins at this point.

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Speaker 3: O know what.

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, but he was good before the injury that

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Speaker 2: he claims he had that the Falcons didn't claim he had.

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Speaker 2: He had a good year for a lot of moves.

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Speaker 2: He can't move and your offensive line is going to

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Speaker 2: be bad. That doesn't make any sense to sign he's

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Speaker 2: cheap money. Well, now they've got a cheap option here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not a good one. I mean, they're

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Speaker 3: trying to win right now.

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Speaker 2: It's got a winning record as a quarterback. Super Bowl champ,

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Speaker 2: super Bowl champ.

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Speaker 3: Interesting move.

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Speaker 2: I'll bet you he's their starter.

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Speaker 3: Mmm. I don't know. There's there's another shoe it's gonna

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Speaker 3: drop there.

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Speaker 2: I'll bet you he's There's no way that's.

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Speaker 3: The only answer. No way.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he doesn't start snap number one, but

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Speaker 2: there's no way that they're done. I'm just surprised he

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Speaker 2: got anything with for Dorry and Thompson Robinson as well.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's a throw in.

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Speaker 2: He's a throw in for plus a fifth round draft pick.

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Speaker 3: But what does the Steelers get for Picket a year ago?

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Speaker 3: He's worth more then than now. I got more than

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Speaker 3: a fifth. I mean they moved some picture around us. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I mean Pickett's worth like a fifth at this point.

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Speaker 3: I bet he's I bet you he's their starter next year.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I don't think they'll win a whole lot of game.

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Speaker 3: I don't win a whole games.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna they could drop mahomes into that lineup, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna win a lot of games.

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Speaker 2: It was more, but they're not gonna win ten.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know what with anybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was some of some It's amazing how social

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Speaker 2: media changed on the Steelers from Sunday morning to Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I tweeted something out early in the day. I can't

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Speaker 2: even remember what it was, and some of the responses

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Speaker 2: were like, what doesn't matter, because you know they might

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Speaker 2: be worse than the Browns this year. I'm like, there's

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Speaker 2: no way on God's green Earth, no way that that's

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Speaker 2: going to happen. It's happened once in the last since

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine, the Browns pinned have finished ahead of

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Speaker 2: the Steelers in the standings in the division one time once.

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Speaker 2: And you think that suddenly this did Browns of the

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Speaker 2: year are going to leap frog the Steelers because well,

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Speaker 2: you don't like what they're going to do at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Bro don't even have a quarterback in the back Garrett

653
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: to the point where they Kenny Peckett.

654
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: They don't. I don't know what they're doing. I mean,

655
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: it's not a bad move.

656
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: I'd rather pick it Claude to move.

657
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's actually I'm joking about it, but

658
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a bad move.

659
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: He's a far better quarterback than Dorian Thompson Robbinson, no question,

660
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: no question, and this gives him an opportunity to revive

661
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: his career possibly.

662
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the best as you get out for Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll add somebody else, whether it's draft or

665
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: free agency or well.

666
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: They can still I'm saying they're not going to draft

667
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: one in the second round or with the second overall pick.

668
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: They shouldn't.

669
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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they don't draft one later. They got eleven pick,

670
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: They got eleven picks. Most of them are late picks.

671
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: But they could take another quarterback and say, Okay, we're

672
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: just going to have a I don't even know if

673
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: they can afford to bring Bake Winston back. I don't

674
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: think they like no money. Yeah, I don't think they can. Right,

675
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: you want to start restructuring deals, and if I'm Kirk Cousins,

676
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: I don't even want to go there. No, I wouldn't either.

677
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: I mean that's a big part of that. I just

678
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: sit it out and wait till somebody has a starter

679
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: that gets hurt. Mm hmm.

680
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: We go to Tennessee year somebody that's at least a

681
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: little more promising.

682
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that happening before.

683
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: Ye are they going to do with quarterback?

684
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: They're not linked to anybody, not at this point.

685
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I can't imagine Russell Wilson or Rogers

686
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: ending up there. They don't roll with Levis.

687
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: No, I would think not, absolutely not. They signed Dan Moore.

688
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: I assume they're gonna take Latham and put them back,

689
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: going back to the right side. Yeah, okay, I mean

690
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: where he belongs. Yeah, right, So that's where we're Kenny

691
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: Pickett gets traded for a second time, for a second

692
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: time in a year, for not a lot. A fifth

693
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: round pick though is okay, more than not and a player,

694
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: so not a good one, but not a good one,

695
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: but it's a player. It's not a bad deal for

696
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: the brown I're in trouble. He is valued around the league. Yeah, Yeah,

697
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: I mean he's the NFL playing and yeah, some of

698
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: those other guys are getting cut true, the Desmond Riders

699
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: of the world players like that. So but yeah, good

700
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: for him.

701
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, things are happening.

702
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: Here's hoping he's the Browns seventeen games next.

703
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: I mean, truthfully, I don't think his career is over.

704
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: He stinks.

705
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: But that's where they're at right now, making a move

706
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: for Picket, Making a move for Picket. I'm not sure

707
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: why the Eagles would. I mean dthr is a little

708
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: bit more like her. They get a fifth round pick,

709
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: they like McKey McKee, they got McKey.

710
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: Picket makes a little bit of money too.

711
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you get a little cheaper and.

712
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: Maybe they draft mil Row or something.

713
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: That will make sense.

714
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense.

715
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the stylistically, but I.

716
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: Know, super Bowl champs, I won't have a decent backup. Yeah,

717
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: Hurts style of play gets banged up a little a

718
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: little bit. But they're also talking about maybe even trading

719
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: Dallas Goddard. Now, I mean they're they got cap issues too.

720
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: Well, there's no doubt about it is not going back

721
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: and you know, right, they got cap issues. Yeah, No,

722
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: I mean that's why I said you know again, Steelers

723
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: are going to continue to be able to add to

724
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: this team and other teams are not.

725
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: A lot of those teams you mentioned starts segment that

726
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: have spent a time, not the Patriots, not the Chargers,

727
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 3: you know, the ones that have too much money. They're

728
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: gonna stop making moves real quick. Yeah, some of these

729
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 3: are just adding stuff left and right.

730
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: But absolutely, let's get to another break. Hey is the

731
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the

732
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, And of course

733
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: you can hear the Drive every Monday through Friday from

734
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: four to six pm right here on these very airwaves,

735
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 2: or you can download the Steelers mobile app. You can

736
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: also watch on our YouTube channel and give us a

737
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: like on her well thumbs up, we like that.

738
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: Another Steeler quarterback, Josh Dobbs a the hash Doobs of

739
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: the Patriots. They're going, Mason Rudolph's gonna go to the

740
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: Bears next, Doc Hodges of the Seahawks.

741
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: There you go.

742
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: That's way it's gonna go.

743
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: That's the way it's gonna happen. Anyways, let's get to

744
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: get to our break here. We'll be back with more

745
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: after this.

746
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

747
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

748
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

749
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the

750
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt I know it seems like everybody asigned.

751
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: Oh there's nobody left.

752
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: There's thirty one other teams that you compare yourself to,

753
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: you know, like not all these teams are making the

754
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: flurry of deals.

755
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: So here's some of the guys still available. Okay, right now,

756
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs still has not signed, probably doesn't get signed

757
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: in free agency necessarily. I think maybe after when.

758
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: Wonder what his injury situation is.

759
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a torn ACL He's not gonna be

760
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: able to do anything probably, and he's got to the

761
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: past physical Yeah. Yeah, Well it was like six games

762
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: into the year.

763
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: Was it that far? Yeah?

764
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: I think it was like second or third. Okay, Joey

765
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: Bosa is out there still, He's.

766
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 3: Still rumored to be with his brother, but who knows.

767
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen still out there, Amari Cooper still out there.

768
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 2: Von Miller. Now these are guys are.

769
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: All Old Yeah, yeah, yeah, these are once great dudes.

770
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks, Deontay Johnson, Cam Robinson. I'll be Cam Robinson

771
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: gets scooped up soon just because the position he plays. Yeah,

772
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: Dreaymont Jones defensive end from the Seahawks. Brandon Shurf guard,

773
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett still there, Evan Ingram.

774
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: I think he's in Denver visiting right now.

775
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Matthew Judon just got cut or no, yeah, yeah, okay,

776
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: Joe or Joe Nope, nope, boom.

777
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: None of these guys are super exciting me for the

778
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: Steelers at the moment.

779
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: The Marcus Lawrence, Preston Smith, DeAndre Hopkins, Ryan Kelly, Zadarius

780
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: Smith just got cut. Justin Justin Reid still hasn't signed yet.

781
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: I bet he does soon. I think he'll be sought after.

782
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: Mike Williams Now Larry Ogan Joby is out there, Jonathan Jones,

783
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: James Daniels, Zach Wilson, Byron Murphy.

784
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: Murphy's interesting. I haven't seen him liked anybody, but yeah,

785
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: Chase Young, they'll do well. Trey Lance, Jeff Acuda, Drey

786
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 3: green Law, Charles A Menahew, Jacobe Bursett, Robert Woods, Kendall Fuller,

787
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: Justin Simmons, Russell Douglas, the Marcus Walker, Taylor Heineke, Rick

788
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: Kwan Davis, Jerome Baker, Stefan Gilmour, Tyler Conklin, Tyron Smith,

789
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: Juwan Johnson, Mike Hilton, Marcus Epps, Darius Slayton, Marcus Mariotager

790
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: or whatever. That's just looking on like the first of

791
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: six hundred players. Yeah, you didn't mention, not to mention

792
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: Rogers and cupp and guys like that that haven't officially

793
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: been released or whatever yet, that it will become available.

794
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: And there'll be some guys joining those.

795
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Stee's Kudogan Jobey today. Teams are going

796
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: to do that with rides. We don't know yet.

797
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: They've made They've made a bunch of signings. All we

798
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 2: didn't think we're going to get this guy. Let's release

799
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: this guy.

800
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do space that we had that card up

801
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: our sleeve.

802
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: Or there are still some teams that need to get

803
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: CAP compliant before Wednesday.

804
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: That too, too, could every Saints on the move or

805
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: something like that too.

806
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: I think the Bills have made a flurry of signings

807
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: over the weekend, but I don't know what.

808
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: The Allen contract did to help or hurt that. I

809
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 3: assume it opened up space.

810
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: But they did some other stuff there. They put them on,

811
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: they put them over the cap.

812
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: That they were real close against it.

813
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to create some space.

814
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 3: They did cut von Miller. So with O those old dudes,

815
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: I wonder. I mean, there's some like Hall of Famers

816
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: and borderline Hall of famers that you mentioned there that

817
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 3: are unemployed.

818
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: They're probably going to play somewhere.

819
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: They Oh, they're all going to play. It screams like

820
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: a lot of one year deals for those guys.

821
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, six hundred and twenty three still available free agents. Okay,

822
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: six hundred and twenty three.

823
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Now several hundred of them won't get.

824
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: Signed for basically agents, teams worth of free agents.

825
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: The football players out there, NFL players.

826
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: Of guys that are NFL players, they're going to play.

827
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: So there's a lot more going on. There's there's some

828
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: trades that will happen to I mean, Kenny Picker got

829
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: traded five minutes ago.

830
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: Right, so you know, I I understand you want you

831
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: want things now now, now, now now, sure, but it

832
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: doesn't happen that way, no, nor does it have to

833
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you missed out right. So today Twitter

834
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: was down or the ex Twitter as it were right now.

835
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: Terrible timing, terrible timing. And it felt like that kind

836
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: of slowed things down in the free agent market a

837
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: little bit.

838
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: A little bit. I mean, I know, I speaking out

839
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: something I don't know, but I know these other services

840
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: tried to like compete with Twitter. Never did. So many

841
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 3: of us rely on Twitter for this stuff, you know,

842
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 3: And there are some other outlets that worked out pretty

843
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: well that I had to dig into. But there was

844
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: a while there I'm like, I'm going on a noon

845
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: podcast and don't have any clue what the heck's going on.

846
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: It made it interesting, let's be yeah, no doubt. Yeah.

847
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: The Colts shining signing Sharvarius Ward to a three year

848
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: deal worth up to sixty million dollars. Wow, twenty million

849
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: dollars a year for your various Ward.

850
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: Good player, I mean, good starter, not a special player.

851
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: That's that's an overpay.

852
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 3: That to me is too and they signed buying them

853
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: as well. Safety. That's when you make a lot of changes.

854
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: It's a wholesale scheme change on defense. You need to

855
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: go find new fits, you know, you're not just going

856
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: to run cover three all the time.

857
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that's where you get yourself into trouble. Absolutely,

858
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 2: it can't just spend to spend.

859
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah or yeah, it absolutely is, And I don't think

860
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: that's spending to spend. Ward's a good player. A lot

861
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 3: of people would like them if you go sign like

862
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: I get it. I mean, he's a good player. That's

863
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 3: a lot of money.

864
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: That's why. You know, if I'm the Steelers, I would

865
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: not have gone a dollar more than what the Jets

866
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: were offering you twenty million dollars for justin fields like

867
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Speaker 2: you know. I don't. Again, I have no inside knowledge

868
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: of what the Steelers offer was.

869
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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's less.

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Speaker 2: It's less than that. That's thirty five over two or

871
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: something like something along those lines. If he took the money,

872
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: that's that's his decision.

873
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: And I would never give anyone a hard time for

874
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: taking more money.

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00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna you can't. What happens to for example,

876
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: team like the Jaguars, Well you got to go out

877
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: and get all the shiny new stuff.

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00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah they all did today.

879
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a couple of things they sign and

880
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: tight ends and stuff like that.

881
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, things that I thought that was two million more

882
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 3: than you should have. That was too much, and that's

883
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: two years from now. You're cutting that guy. Yeah, yeah,

884
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: I mean they're the poster boys for that.

885
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: It just it leads to bad contracts, that leads to

886
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: situations where guys know they're being rented.

887
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: There's a lot of change in the locker room and

888
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 3: you won't be here long. And I always go back

889
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: to the Jags too, and once again this year they

890
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: have so many high picks all the time, and who

891
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: on their roster are is there to show from those

892
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: top ten picks? I mean there's not many. Yeah, I

893
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: mean all those years going back to Bortles and Ramsey

894
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: and all those dudes. I mean, yeah, there should be

895
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: your issould be were Watts in or awards? You know

896
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 3: the guys are there forever?

897
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why again I'm not I'm not. You

898
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: know again the conversations about about TJ. Watt. You need

899
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: to trade him now you don't, No, you don't need to.

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00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 3: It's like Garrett money though, when that happens, I don't

901
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: think I don't think it'll.

902
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: Be that high, Like Parsons will get more than Garrett.

903
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: The average I don't care what the average part of

904
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: the deal works. Yeah, when when the Steelers sign TJ.

905
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: Watt to a new deal, people are gonna get tied

906
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: up in the money. They're gonna look at it and go, right, oh,

907
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: they gave him. I'm just gonna throw one hundred and

908
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars over four years.

909
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: You know he's too old for that. That's crazy.

910
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: But it's not gonna be what what he makes in

911
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: year one. It's not gonna be whatever he gets. He's

912
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: probably gonna lower his cap number ninety in twenty twenty five.

913
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: Whatever year it is. Yeah, I mean, it could be

914
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: for next year's cap or for this year's cap.

915
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: Right. It's much like the Metcalf contract. Everybody looks at it. Well,

916
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: they gave DJ Metcalf thirty million dollars a year on average.

917
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: Yet on average, right, but that's not what he's gonna

918
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: make the first couple of years.

919
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: How much is guaranteed? What's the cap hit this year?

920
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: You said to what eighteen? This year? It's not bad

921
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: at all.

922
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: For his base salary, now, yeah, I mean, and then

923
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: you just tack the other the next four years on

924
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: after that, it's like.

925
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: The last year of that contract he may never see

926
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: or he.

927
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: Just gave him. You traded for him. He's making eighteen

928
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: million dollars. You said, Okay, we're gonna do this, and

929
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 2: we're going to write you a check as you know bonus.

930
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: I again haven't seen the contract yet, but let's say

931
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 2: they gave him forty million in bonus money.

932
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: I can almost guarantee that that contract will be more

933
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: team friendly than the first thing we.

934
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: Read, without a doubt, without a doubt, without a doubt,

935
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: you know, an out and different things like that too. Yeah,

936
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: but that's the going rate. That's what you do when

937
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 2: you have great players.

938
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: You're paying you all right.

939
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: Again, the cap has gone up fifty million dollars in

940
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: the last two years. Yeah, I think it's been like

941
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: one hundred in the last five or something.

942
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it's insane.

943
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: There's no reason to think it's not going to go

944
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Speaker 2: up another thirty million dollars next year.

945
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Speaker 3: Right right, No, I mean that's what all these people

946
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: are counting on. It doesn't mean the overpay.

947
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: But yeah, it doesn't mean you overpay, but you you do.

948
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Speaker 3: Give the Watts and Geartt.

949
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: What we've seen is you pay to keep your own right, right,

950
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: right right?

951
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: You don't want those guys hit in the market.

952
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: No, I mean, can you imagine what TJ would get

953
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: if he was in the open market.

954
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: Oh, he'd be insanity. Yeah, Josh Allen's are the best example.

955
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: Somebody give him fifty, Give him fifty. If Milton Williams

956
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: got twenty six?

957
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: Right right? What's the limit now? What the Patriots have

958
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: given them with or the Chargers with libity to check

959
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 3: book this year.

960
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: That's why BOSO is making a gajillion dollars on their cap.

961
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: And you know, I mean they just don't get yourself

962
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: into that situation. You've got to have again a plan,

963
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, and your plan includes we're not going

964
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: to overpay for this play. We're gonna here's what we'll

965
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: pay for this player, and if it goes above that,

966
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Speaker 2: then we're out.

967
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Speaker 3: I also think a lot of fans, and not that

968
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Speaker 3: I'm a cap ologist, don't quite understand the cap nor

969
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: should they. And just see what's released the second there

970
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: three years, fifty million, three years, one hundred million, whatever

971
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: it is, and that's too much, probably isn't I mean

972
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: for most deals? No, you know, and these teams can get.

973
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Speaker 2: Out of it they can get out of it. So, uh, well,

974
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Speaker 2: that's going to do it for our show today. I'm gonna, yeah,

975
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Speaker 2: go out on a limb and say, by the time

976
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Speaker 2: we get together here tomorrow at four o'clock, the Steelers

977
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: will have a quarterback agreed. Agreed, that's safe to say. Yeah,

978
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Speaker 2: I'm leaning that.

979
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Speaker 3: Way as well.

980
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: Houston Texans signing Chiefs free wide receiver Justin Watson.

981
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Speaker 3: They traded tunsl too, really touch on that. I mean,

982
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 3: their old line was in shambles, trade Tunsls, cut Mason.

983
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: I'm not sure who's blocking for Stroud right now.

984
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: Well we weren't sure sure who was really blocking for

985
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: him last year either. They didn't do it very well,

986
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 2: didn't do a very good job of it. So maybe

987
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 2: they're starting over there. But well, we'll see what happens here.

988
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: There's lots of uh, lots of more.

989
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: That's what ended up.

990
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, although they don't now have no draft picks.

991
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what compensation they give up.

992
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: They gave up a bunch of drafts, yeah, a bunch

993
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: of draft picks. But that's gonna do it for today's show.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed it. Rest in peace to Craig Wolfy, Yep,

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Speaker 2: we'll miss your bud, say a lo to say a

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Speaker 2: load of touch brother before my partner Matt Williamson, for

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Speaker 2: Justin Miller here on site keeping us on the air,

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Speaker 2: and for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure our video gets out

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Speaker 2: there onto YouTube. I am Dale Lelly. We thank you

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Speaker 2: for listening to this edition of the Drive on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.