Speaker 1: A bunch of fucking Italians and Irish right and in Chicago, yeh,
Speaker 1: don't talk about your own people like that, bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And Polish, A lot of a lot of Polish people.
Speaker 2: A lot of the Polish.
Speaker 1: People just spit on the ground. Fucking turn of the
Speaker 1: century racist out seven years into the show.
Speaker 3: Polish people, Oh my god, shit, that is like a
Speaker 3: very anti Polish races.
Speaker 2: Why he doesn't even get a lot of the stereotypes, right,
Speaker 2: they think they're so smart?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What Hello the Internet? And welcome to season three
Speaker 1: thirty seven, Episode five of Dy'syay production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America share consciousness. And It's Friday, May tenth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four.
Speaker 2: National Washington Day. Shout out that the Emeralds Great State.
Speaker 1: What do we call that for Apple State?
Speaker 2: I don't know, is there who knows? I think we
Speaker 2: call that Appleasia.
Speaker 1: I think we call it Appalaysia for all that.
Speaker 2: It's also National clean Up your Room Day and I
Speaker 2: won't It's National Lipid Day, It's National Shrimp Day. It's
Speaker 2: also National Provider Appreciation Day, which I believe that's just childcare. Yeah,
Speaker 2: shout out to everybody. Take care. That's that's special educators,
Speaker 2: that's uh, people that that that watch our kids while
Speaker 2: we work and we hustle. Shout out told you.
Speaker 1: I feel like shrimp is a food that goes the
Speaker 1: furthest from like high on the things i want to eat,
Speaker 1: like desperately when I'm hungry to even if I'm full
Speaker 1: on not shrimp, I like shrimp grosses me out?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Not for you?
Speaker 2: Okay, I love shrimp.
Speaker 1: I love shrimp too.
Speaker 2: When i'm wait, wait, when you're hungry, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: But if I'm full shrimp, I just I was just
Speaker 1: thinking about shrimp.
Speaker 2: Oh, if you're not hungry, you're like when I'm not.
Speaker 1: Hungry, shrimp like grosses me out for some reason.
Speaker 2: Oh I love shrimp, dude, I fucking love shrimp. I
Speaker 2: love peeling them. I like them peeled whatever.
Speaker 1: But we're going to nothing extended forty five minutes. It's
Speaker 1: about to be bubble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly like I like shrimp, gumbo, coconut shrimp.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shrimp's too. I love it all. I just had
Speaker 2: some shrimp last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about shrimp this morning before I
Speaker 1: ate because it's International Shrimp Day or whatever National Shrimp Day,
Speaker 1: and then I just thought about it after I ate
Speaker 1: like five pancakes and no longer appealing to me, And
Speaker 1: this morning I was like, God, I will literally kill
Speaker 1: for some shrimp. Anyway. My name is Jack O'Brien aka
Speaker 1: don't break my balls, my stinky stanky balls. I just
Speaker 1: don't think you understand, because if you break my balls,
Speaker 1: my stinky stinky balls, I'm my Zelle. You a hefty tip.
Speaker 1: That is Curtesy Lockeroni on the Discord, in reference to
Speaker 1: the revelation that I have a paypig relationship with Marcella Arguello.
Speaker 1: Every time she makes fun of me, I'm secretly, like
Speaker 1: real into it. You can hear a perverse stop whenever
Speaker 1: she's roasted me. Just listen back. You'll hear a little
Speaker 1: little perverse exhale from me every time. Yes, anyways, that's
Speaker 1: that's gross. But shout out to Marcella. Always great her on.
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co
Speaker 1: host mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, cause sho.
Speaker 5: My type arm takes my tape arm makes me forget
Speaker 5: short term yo, My type arm makes me forget long
Speaker 5: term bawl the tape worm out of or right, hey,
Speaker 5: bawl the type arm out of your arm right.
Speaker 2: Hi, okay for people who don't fuck with toxicity this second,
Speaker 2: that's so funny. Shout out bottles and fans on discord
Speaker 2: because I was thinking of that system of a downtrack
Speaker 2: because it's all about tapeworms. So shout out the tape worm.
Speaker 2: Shout out bottles and fans. Shout out surge of system
Speaker 2: of a down. Some of the other guys ways can't
Speaker 2: quite get buying no more. But yeah, anyway, thank you
Speaker 2: for that one.
Speaker 1: Miles. We are thrilled to be joined in our third
Speaker 1: seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmores,
Speaker 1: hilarious and brilliant producer and TV writer you know from
Speaker 1: the Joses Racist podcast.
Speaker 2: It's Andrew two. Guess he's going to host. Tell you
Speaker 2: I know the rates goal let it go?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I couldn't get through it.
Speaker 4: I couldn't get it from I was on one calendar
Speaker 4: week ago. I talked about how he's never going to
Speaker 4: look up Akas in the discord. So this is via
Speaker 4: Twitter registered mail, so very tired on Twitter. The o
Speaker 4: in so very tired? Is A is a number?
Speaker 2: Zero?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Me them?
Speaker 2: How's your voice? You had a bit of a development
Speaker 2: since slash we spoke the literal opposite.
Speaker 4: Turns out, Uh, if if anyone noted any sluggishness in
Speaker 4: my performance last time, it's because I was convinced I
Speaker 4: didn't have COVID, but I absolutely had COVID.
Speaker 1: It turns out I totally had COVID.
Speaker 4: I had been visiting my family in Atlanta. They were
Speaker 4: all sniffilly and a little bit had coughs. But you know,
Speaker 4: it's like a fucking two year old or whatever. They
Speaker 4: all were consistently testing negative all week. Oh, I just
Speaker 4: assume I had what they had, but I had either
Speaker 4: COVID or they had a big batch of bad tests.
Speaker 2: But I guess it's possible too. Yeah, are the tests
Speaker 2: working I had?
Speaker 1: I had a similar I really have a stockpile from
Speaker 1: the early days. Yeah. Yeah, it don't work anymore, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I don't know how it works.
Speaker 2: Is it like peanut butter in the jar? Does that?
Speaker 2: Do they go bad like peanut butter? To me? No,
Speaker 2: there's no way.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a it's a little vial of enzyme.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, I forgot about that part.
Speaker 4: I feel like the paper part of the test is
Speaker 4: probably fine enough, right, I feel like that enzyme can't.
Speaker 4: You're probably supposed to be like refrigerating it and like
Speaker 4: throwing it out after like three months. My is my
Speaker 4: my medium?
Speaker 1: Fine to me?
Speaker 4: But I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you really putting that that swab? Real far up?
Speaker 1: I get that drips. That's what the kids are talking
Speaker 1: about when they talk about the drip, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: The COVID tests like a fucking oh not pixie stick,
Speaker 4: like fun dip. Yeah, that's all they agree. It's to
Speaker 4: basically be fun dip. If you do it the opposite way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like un fun fun dip. Yeah, fun undip.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's all I've been fucking doing. It wasn't
Speaker 4: too bad, I will say this. It was not too bad,
Speaker 4: but it was worse than I thought. You needless to
Speaker 4: say try not.
Speaker 2: To get COVID. Probably more people should be wearing masks
Speaker 2: more places, yeah, probably, but hey, but they declared pandemic
Speaker 2: over So it.
Speaker 4: Was one of those things where I was like, because
Speaker 4: I tested negative, and I was like, can I go out,
Speaker 4: and I was like, well, Joe Biden would say it
Speaker 4: would be fine if I went out, and I was like,
Speaker 4: come on, there's a lot of shit he says that
Speaker 4: I probably don't want to lift.
Speaker 1: Was he still alive? I don't know, know, man, I
Speaker 1: mean that's what probably he doesn't probably live by that.
Speaker 1: He just tells people this ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's gotta be right. So uh yeah, that's
Speaker 4: that's what I've been up to get.
Speaker 1: Did you watch anything good like out of boredom or
Speaker 1: like rewatch anything you wouldn't have otherwise, or just like
Speaker 1: done anything? Really?
Speaker 4: I did one one thing. Once I started to feel
Speaker 4: better but was still testing positive, I was like real bored,
Speaker 4: so I made kind of a bootleg ka with I
Speaker 4: just had like like chicken in my fridge. I had
Speaker 4: no sake, no uh meeting no meaning I did have
Speaker 4: meet it. Actually that was I used Chinese cooking wine.
Speaker 4: I didn't have like I had corn stars. But because
Speaker 4: I'm a fucking idiot, I didn't have like normal flour,
Speaker 4: so I was like olemond flour. It was weird but fine. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And because I was so bored, I used I made mayonnaise,
Speaker 4: in which ship good for you.
Speaker 2: That's where I was at.
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm gonna make mayonnaise and deep fry
Speaker 4: in a walk for myself and.
Speaker 1: Made artisanal mayo.
Speaker 2: At least it didn't affect your taste, because that would
Speaker 2: have been such an l meal to be like, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 4: Yeah I did.
Speaker 2: I definitely did.
Speaker 4: My that's a smell is not one hundred percent, but
Speaker 4: my taste is fine, Oh beautiful.
Speaker 2: I think, look, I don't know, tbd TBD.
Speaker 1: As someone else tastes the mayonnaise and like their hair
Speaker 1: falls out, They're like, holy shit, yeah.
Speaker 4: Just blast you with whatever's in here. And then I
Speaker 4: watched I was watching some people play Hades to.
Speaker 2: Online.
Speaker 4: I love the vibe of the Hades franchise. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: so good.
Speaker 2: I you know, I'm a switch god, Nintendo switch god,
Speaker 2: like Jack is. Obviously Jack is the first the one
Speaker 2: who told me to get on Hades and I did.
Speaker 4: But then then he was like, Haiti's nuts, and he's
Speaker 4: I got your ass.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then I hear I don't think Hades two
Speaker 1: is on switch right, I don't think it's like I.
Speaker 4: Don't even know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, Yeah, it's a big l I think
Speaker 2: for the Switch fans, at least, not yet. And I
Speaker 2: could be wrong anyways. I can't please correct me if
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but I have a female guts on PS
Speaker 2: five and Steam and that kind of ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean two days ago, games Radar Plus was saying,
Speaker 1: will hate me to be on PS five, Nintendo Switch
Speaker 1: and Xbox Series X. So that would suggest that it's
Speaker 1: not there yet, okay, And I look up. I just
Speaker 1: knew that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, gamings in your bones, just the
Speaker 4: way I knew that, just like how I knew the
Speaker 4: works of earlier this week.
Speaker 6: Yes, exactly, you got a gamer's heart, O'Brien, right because
Speaker 6: they got the part of a gamer, because the person
Speaker 6: who gave you that heart transplant was a gamer, right,
Speaker 6: literally the heart of a gamer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like to get them young, the hearts,
Speaker 1: you know, young gamers. Still a lot of beats left.
Speaker 4: What I'm strongly assuming you guys have covered this already
Speaker 4: because it was we old and feels like right up
Speaker 4: your alley. But that ship about how the red lobster
Speaker 4: endless shrimp was like such a money loser for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't talk about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then I had a moment when you guys are
Speaker 4: doing the shrimp thing because I had a sandwich off camera,
Speaker 4: off camera, off my whatever. I wanted to get in
Speaker 4: on the shrimp bits, but I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: take one more bite of sand before we really get.
Speaker 1: So shrimp is I I did notice you gesturing that
Speaker 1: I was incorrect on my take on shrimp being really
Speaker 1: great when I'm hungry, but not as I'm not hungry.
Speaker 1: You like it no matter what.
Speaker 4: I think I did. I'm I like, you know those
Speaker 4: Costco shrimp rings.
Speaker 2: Yeah I could.
Speaker 4: I could fully take one of those down I have.
Speaker 4: I've been at the like like I dined.
Speaker 2: Isn't there a lot of iodine and shrimp? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but for iodine right on disease that he gave
Speaker 1: himself for mercury poisoning.
Speaker 4: And then oh wait no, I'd thing though that feels
Speaker 4: like from a movie only from Rick Ross.
Speaker 2: I A dine put it takes. It would take a
Speaker 2: lot from what I understand what movie was. There was
Speaker 2: a guy in a movie who had like ate too
Speaker 2: much shrimp and like a wheelbarrow shrimp. Yeah, shrimp, I dine.
Speaker 2: Movie was that all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I think if if there's any way to do so,
Speaker 4: that endless shrimp thing felt like it was the like
Speaker 4: movie pass of.
Speaker 2: Right right, yeah yeah, but if everyone goes back, I
Speaker 2: think I think we got to take a field trip boys, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot time and put them out of business
Speaker 1: once and from hell in the coffin dead like like.
Speaker 2: Like did you see like those I remember seeing like
Speaker 2: like stupid TikTok videos of like bros and college cafeterias,
Speaker 2: like you know how like in a college cafeteria, like
Speaker 2: the cereals dispense that like a plastic tower that like
Speaker 2: fill or whatever, and these guys just kept trying to
Speaker 2: eat so many bowls of cereal to force the kitchen
Speaker 2: people to like just refill like the tower of fucking
Speaker 2: like cheerios that like they roped more and more dudes,
Speaker 2: and they captured like we're trying to empty the fucking tower,
Speaker 2: and they were just cheering every time they would like
Speaker 2: refell it and be baffled by it. I think we
Speaker 2: need something like that, Like we need to pull up
Speaker 2: like fifty deep and then everybody brings three friends and yeah,
Speaker 2: I think we could do it. That's probably the best
Speaker 2: thing we can do with our time right now.
Speaker 4: It feels like the type of thing I said on
Speaker 4: this show before. But I went to a restaurant near me,
Speaker 4: an Echo Park that's a Japanese ish it is Japanese
Speaker 4: restaurant where they do the grilled shrimp whatever the fuck
Speaker 4: that's called. I'm looking at Miles a little bit grilled.
Speaker 4: What do you mean just it's just grilled, just grilled prawns,
Speaker 4: but with the head on.
Speaker 2: Still okay.
Speaker 4: Anyway I went with. I was at a table with like,
Speaker 4: you know, half Asian people, half not Asian people.
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah.
Speaker 4: And my move there because you know, it's like mostly
Speaker 4: white people because the fucking Echo Park and this restaurant.
Speaker 4: So they bring out the shrimp and then they always
Speaker 4: bring out a little plate for people to discard their
Speaker 4: heads in, and I was like, get that ship out
Speaker 4: of here. I'm not we don't need this. And then
Speaker 4: none of the none of the Asian people ate any
Speaker 4: shrimp heads. So I take out an entire two plates
Speaker 4: worth of shrimp Christmas. I remember I got made fun
Speaker 4: of in like junior high or whatever for eating shrimp
Speaker 4: tails in front of people.
Speaker 2: They're like, what do you do them?
Speaker 4: I'm like, Calico are Yeah, I could see that, but
Speaker 4: I feel like California is a gregious I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: people are fucked up and evil.
Speaker 2: What can I say? Are so stupid?
Speaker 1: Anyway, I guess I'm evil. I don't need the tails
Speaker 1: or the heads.
Speaker 2: You gotta gotta get in mayonnaise.
Speaker 4: I'll make this my my search, even though it's it
Speaker 4: was a while ago, which was alretty shrimp heads is like,
Speaker 4: is it possible to get an allergic reaction?
Speaker 1: That was a little like, man, I don't feel great,
Speaker 1: but like a manufactured allergic. You're not allergic, but like your.
Speaker 2: Body's like that'll be enough easy.
Speaker 4: Andrew, I have I have some worries because I I'm like,
Speaker 4: I feel like I don't have food allergies. But I
Speaker 4: did go to a boiling crab one time similarly and
Speaker 4: had enough shrimp that I was like, I think I
Speaker 4: have some hives. I don't really know what's happening here. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was just worried. I was like, can you give.
Speaker 2: Yourself a shellfish allergy?
Speaker 1: Allergy?
Speaker 2: Went od on the shellfish possible to od? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, Andrew, we're going to get to know you
Speaker 2: a little bit better in a moment.
Speaker 1: Listeners a couple of things we might be talking about
Speaker 1: later on. We might get to the IPA commercial that
Speaker 1: everyone thinks is so cool. Limitarianism is just a very
Speaker 1: simple premise that I don't know, I think is cool.
Speaker 1: I think we should talk more about sex workers have
Speaker 1: gained historic labor rights in Belgium, which is cool. Hey,
Speaker 1: speaking of shrimp rings and serial Towers, Warner Brothers has
Speaker 1: decided to stubbornly keep making Lord of the Rings movies.
Speaker 1: They're just gonna stick away with it. They don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck what you people say. People are like, please stop,
Speaker 1: Well we're so full, and they're.
Speaker 2: Just like nah.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. It's all around banger of
Speaker 1: an earnings call from Zaslab, all of that, plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Andrew, we do like to ask our guest,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history or something that
Speaker 1: you've recently screencapped?
Speaker 4: Obviously the shrimp thing.
Speaker 2: Shrimp thing, possible to die from shrimp, I would.
Speaker 4: Say, probably the next most recent thing. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: So basically the second I tested negative, I went I
Speaker 4: was like, I want to go see a movie so bad.
Speaker 4: I just want to get the fuck out of my house.
Speaker 4: So I finally lay to the game, but finally watch
Speaker 4: Challengers and this this is just illustrative of how bad
Speaker 4: my brain works, because this is a reflex, even though
Speaker 4: I know it's stupid in retrospect, I did google weather.
Speaker 4: Challengers has a post credits scene.
Speaker 1: Where all the Challengers come together. Yeah, it does sound
Speaker 1: like it could be like an attempt to like replace
Speaker 1: Avengers with like a new group of superheroes.
Speaker 4: Like just just like, yeah, well it turns into a
Speaker 4: foursome basically. Yeah, I'm just like, it's just a reflex.
Speaker 4: I just want to know if I can leave the
Speaker 4: second the credits were all right, and.
Speaker 1: Was there in this case to run, run to the
Speaker 1: bathroom and jack off? I'm assuming because Challengers yeah so hot?
Speaker 2: No turns out?
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no post credit sequence.
Speaker 4: I did not realize. I thought it was a wonderful movie,
Speaker 4: and I think this has been one of my recommendations.
Speaker 2: Prior on this show.
Speaker 4: Structurally, it is almost identical to the anime feature anime
Speaker 4: The Last Slam Dunk. No really, I did not realize.
Speaker 4: It is much more of a sports movie than I thought. So, right,
Speaker 4: if you're on the fence. Yeah, it's like a fucking
Speaker 4: it's a sports movie, right, among other things.
Speaker 1: Sure, you're like a tennis obsessive like that's yeah, but.
Speaker 4: It's it is that like all the same themes of
Speaker 4: I mean, and many other themes. But but the theme
Speaker 4: that I was surprised by was this like sports like competition,
Speaker 4: like hyper focused competitiveness aspect of it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you thought that was more of like
Speaker 1: a backdrop, but it is, like it is truly what
Speaker 1: is It's.
Speaker 4: Part of the movie. It's a big part of the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and the other this is just just because this is
Speaker 4: to get to know me, and it's in the trailer.
Speaker 4: But the ways and day I hear at her knee
Speaker 4: is identical to the way I dislocated my knee when
Speaker 4: I was in high school.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Oh I forgot that was gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty fat.
Speaker 1: That's horrible.
Speaker 2: So I'm fun. I've been having fun. Guys.
Speaker 1: We have a great executive producer on our team, Lyras Smith,
Speaker 1: who has seen Challengers three times now. I think, and
Speaker 1: it is like I think I'm just gonna like keep
Speaker 1: seeing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 1: Think I like until yeah. Yeah, They're like, she's just
Speaker 1: gonna watch it until she can't watch it anymore.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's it's quite good.
Speaker 4: I don't it's it's so weird because it is like
Speaker 4: one of the last worlds I would ever want to
Speaker 4: live in. It's so unpleasant being there. It's yeah, but
Speaker 4: the movie is really good. Challengers, Chalmers, Challengers, Challengers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it does not have anything to like, there's
Speaker 1: the doesn't even mention the space shuttle.
Speaker 4: Oh no, it's it's there though, you know it's.
Speaker 1: In the subtext.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, it's it's yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean at the end she puts on a mex
Speaker 4: suit and fights the Queen Challenger, which is like, oh,
Speaker 4: really insane, but away from her, you bitch.
Speaker 2: They did.
Speaker 1: The way that that movie was pitched was so he
Speaker 1: had a went board with Challengers on it.
Speaker 2: They and the it.
Speaker 1: That's right, we're all up on it. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's textually there because you can tell that Zendaiah's parents
Speaker 1: watched that in third grade, watched the Challenger explode.
Speaker 4: I will say there there's several time jumps in it,
Speaker 4: and I guess without spoiling it, it's really hard to
Speaker 4: buys and die as certain ages that she portrayed.
Speaker 1: That that is what I've heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little like come on, yeah, how.
Speaker 1: They show her as a baby, like an eternal sunshine
Speaker 1: of the spotless mind. Just a tiny Zandaia right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've heard the same thing about certain age age. But
Speaker 1: age is fine, Habita, but Zindia. I just feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's never had the thought like all my taxes are due,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel it.
Speaker 4: I guess I will say. The character still supports that.
Speaker 4: It's it's it is kind of just like she even
Speaker 4: the alleged thirty year old version.
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, she probably doesn't worry a better tastic right,
Speaker 2: never had to?
Speaker 1: Uh, Andrew, what is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: And this again, I've just had COVID. This is on
Speaker 4: me obviously because I know people love this, but I
Speaker 4: just I was just taking long ass walks because I
Speaker 4: was like, I'm want to get some kind of exercise
Speaker 4: in Yeah, I guess part of it is, yeah, unbelievably
Speaker 4: long walks.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. We're talking like a fucking sojourn across the state.
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like I could do it now,
Speaker 4: but no, I do mean, I mean two laps around
Speaker 4: Echo Park, which is unt long for me.
Speaker 1: So we were talking about like, yeah, that's what he means,
Speaker 1: but unbelievably long. People start following him around because they
Speaker 1: can't believe he's still doing it.
Speaker 2: Wow, this guy did three laps around Echo Park Lake, unbelievably.
Speaker 1: There's the legend grows.
Speaker 4: Never able to figure out the exact tweet for this,
Speaker 4: but it's it's the time of year where the baby
Speaker 4: geese are out, and and so I was trying to
Speaker 4: figure out some goslings Ryan gosling fall guy thing. But
Speaker 4: there's my dog almost got in a fight with multiple
Speaker 4: mother geese.
Speaker 2: Don't geese, man, that's witches.
Speaker 1: Like they are not nice there.
Speaker 4: They seem angry and territorial and.
Speaker 2: Their kids are cute. Yeah, they're there.
Speaker 4: I saw because of my again, unfathomably long walks. I've
Speaker 4: seen multiple families of like baby East jumping into the goslings.
Speaker 4: I saw goslin jump into the pool or into the lake,
Speaker 4: and it's so cute, warm your heart, so cute every time.
Speaker 2: Is that your favorite bird? Would you say, as a man,
Speaker 2: andrew T, what's your favorite bird?
Speaker 4: Damn, damn, damn, damn question. That just needs to be
Speaker 4: part of our questions. Man, what's your favorite bird? As
Speaker 4: a yeah, tik tok, motherfucker. I'll say, I'll say I
Speaker 4: think maybe just a regular duck. Goose is like too much.
Speaker 4: I'm not like, yeah like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, they're really very elegant and graceful, the goose, the
Speaker 1: like by design, like their their neck design is just too.
Speaker 2: Hey, we're getting the light. We're getting the light. We're
Speaker 2: getting the light from justice folks, We're getting the light
Speaker 2: ship movement.
Speaker 1: This is what's these things overrated?
Speaker 4: Andrew apparently it's uh not giving a shit about COVID
Speaker 4: because I probably should have been more careful.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well everywhere you go it's a theme week.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've Yeah, every time you get on a plane,
Speaker 2: there's like less and less masks. There's yeah, like now
Speaker 2: you see people with masks and like, is this person
Speaker 2: like gonna is are they gonna do a robbery? Why
Speaker 2: are they have a.
Speaker 1: Mask on it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Right, nobody nobody gets hurt. It's the plane's money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it's the plane's smoked almonds.
Speaker 7: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 7: right back and we're back.
Speaker 1: And an iPad commercial came out that seemed like a
Speaker 1: normal iPad commercial to me, but it's getting a lot of, uh,
Speaker 1: a lot of backlash from people, and I mean it's
Speaker 1: not I get it, like it's it's seems a little
Speaker 1: like the machine will crush all of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the commercial portrays like a bunch of like
Speaker 2: instruments like painting supplies, like a turntable, a fucking piano,
Speaker 2: paint brushes, like you know, the tools of the artist,
Speaker 2: and then this gigantic, fucking hydraulic press just fox it
Speaker 2: all down to like a fucking singularity. And then when
Speaker 2: it when the hydrog press then releases and opens up,
Speaker 2: it's like, and here's the new iPad And yeah, like
Speaker 2: I get what you're trying to say is like, man,
Speaker 2: look at all the fun shit you can do. But
Speaker 2: I get like the on Twitter and social media, people
Speaker 2: fucking lost it. Japanese Twitter fucking went up because they
Speaker 2: were like, these are the fucking how darely disrespect these
Speaker 2: tools that are used to create things or whatever. I
Speaker 2: myself was also fucking upset because the very first object
Speaker 2: to get it at the top of this crush pyramid
Speaker 2: was a trumpet, which is the very first instrument I
Speaker 2: learned how to play. And when I saw that thing,
Speaker 2: just get absolutely just like crushed down it. Like I
Speaker 2: remember when I was a kid man, like I had
Speaker 2: this like older used trumpet, and I always wanted a
Speaker 2: new trumpet because I remember all the other kids in
Speaker 2: band had like new or nicer trumpets. And when I
Speaker 2: finally got when I was like in high school, I
Speaker 2: would freak out if anything like ever happened to the
Speaker 2: bell or if it got dented or some shit like that.
Speaker 2: So seeing that thing, it fucked it. It fucked me up.
Speaker 2: And then a turntable I was like, I was a DJ.
Speaker 2: Then camera lenses and stuff. I was like I my
Speaker 2: foray into media was taking pictures and making videos. Like
Speaker 2: this is fucked up. I don't know why. It really
Speaker 2: fucked me up.
Speaker 4: Because it's not just that it like, you know, it's
Speaker 4: trying to say this is a way to amalgamate these things,
Speaker 4: but it's shot as that anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're obsolete.
Speaker 4: It is like like a real it's such a bizarre
Speaker 4: I kind of had a similar reaction initially where I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I don't love it.
Speaker 2: But whatever.
Speaker 4: However, someone on Twitter Resurrection are Easy A R W
Speaker 4: R E c k Shun basically did a version of
Speaker 4: this where they said it to I forget some different music,
Speaker 4: but plays it, play it backwards and it is like
Speaker 4: surprisingly heartwarming when you watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, replaced our screens with actual ship, which says
Speaker 1: the same what's inside?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like like the this like little tab has like
Speaker 4: you know, the argument that this, like you people use
Speaker 4: iPad pros to create are is a little like specious,
Speaker 4: I feel like, because it's like, yeah, you watch things
Speaker 4: on your iPad and people do create things, but not
Speaker 4: really Yeah, I don't think they want to.
Speaker 1: The overall message doesn't really hang together intellectually, Like there's
Speaker 1: they have like plastic angry birds in there that get smashed,
Speaker 1: suggesting that like the game Angry Birds was a replacement
Speaker 1: for some real loogable version of Angry Birds, where like
Speaker 1: we're all just driving around with our cars full of
Speaker 1: angry birds that we were throwing at towers and it
Speaker 1: was so cumbersome, but now we replace it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a I mean, I think it's just also
Speaker 2: the backdrop where people are just increasingly more and more
Speaker 2: suspicious of technology, especially like in creative fields. Like we
Speaker 2: were just talking about how like that BBL drizzy AI song, Like.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that, like like in the
Speaker 1: context of the BBL drizzy thing the backla, like I
Speaker 1: hate this fucking commercial now because the BBL drizzy like
Speaker 1: song sounds too good and people are like, no, it's
Speaker 1: just AI, man, it's just AI. And I'm like, but
Speaker 1: it can't just be like they're taking somebody's work and
Speaker 1: like doing something to it in a way that like
Speaker 1: is utilizing AI in like some specific parts of the
Speaker 1: creation process. But there's also a lot of like instrumentation
Speaker 1: and music that is being used going into the mix.
Speaker 1: But everyone's like just a, I, you actually can replace
Speaker 1: all that stuff now, you don't need music anymore.
Speaker 2: She need an iPad, man, just need an iPad? Yeah,
Speaker 2: do all that shit?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 4: It is It is like this thing where it's also
Speaker 4: like Silicon Valley I think has this like I think
Speaker 4: because their taste and creative stuff is so mid It's
Speaker 4: it's like this like like worship of diletantism. It's like
Speaker 4: because the thing is it's like, yeah, an iPad pro
Speaker 4: can sort of do all these things badly, but why
Speaker 4: not get good at a thing, Like you actually don't
Speaker 4: need a thing that can paint and produce music and
Speaker 4: like program and be your Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like everything's getting like literally flattened in this
Speaker 2: way where we aren't valuing like the process of like
Speaker 2: honing and developing a craft, which I think is just
Speaker 2: like one of the things that are kind of the
Speaker 2: few things we can enjoy, is like starting out at
Speaker 2: something you're really interested in and then over time getting
Speaker 2: better and better and figuring out like how you make
Speaker 2: it your own thing. So yeah, yeah, I just just
Speaker 2: the apple just to go dump on all of our faces,
Speaker 2: all of us are all the crafts people out there? Yeah,
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: I think part of what initially didn't like had me
Speaker 1: not resisting it, is that like I hate stuff at
Speaker 1: this point, like being a parent, and like you know,
Speaker 1: my kids bring home so much stuff from school or
Speaker 1: like if they to a birthday party, there's just like
Speaker 1: you know, junk drawer filler like that comes home with them. Like,
Speaker 1: so like there's something that's enjoyable about the idea of
Speaker 1: like all what if all of that just got smashed
Speaker 1: down and like disappeared, But then the thing you're like
Speaker 1: replacing it with is this like sleek looking illusion that
Speaker 1: is actually like as we talked about on Monday's episode,
Speaker 1: filled with like minerals that need to be like mined
Speaker 1: out the earth by hand by like slave labor the equivalent.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just a slick illusion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild though too that like a lot of
Speaker 2: people have to like just play it backwards take and
Speaker 2: how effective it is in that sense, you're like, damn man,
Speaker 2: just you could have reversed it. It's from a different flapnapuff.
Speaker 4: It's like when the metaphor is pitched, it kind of
Speaker 4: makes sense, but like it is like truly the direction
Speaker 4: I think of this piece. There's there's a way to
Speaker 4: do something like this that's like I don't know less
Speaker 4: dystopian feeling. Like the other thing is like this this
Speaker 4: has a real like book burning vibe to it, Like
Speaker 4: it's very kind of like yeah, like I don't know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, Like it's like the artisans know nothing of what
Speaker 2: our future actually will hold fucking yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: This is like this is like some like bad guys,
Speaker 4: like yeah, the guy that's fucking trying to kill Roger
Speaker 4: Rabbit kind of vibes like the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it could even just been different if
Speaker 2: you just like crushed a bunch of technologic technological ship
Speaker 2: where it's like it's a TV, it's a computer, it's
Speaker 2: this other thing.
Speaker 8: All together in like a whimsical even if the press
Speaker 8: is a little like more listen, I'm going to assume
Speaker 8: some very very very well compensated ad agency Media Art.
Speaker 2: Labs to be specific. Probably I feel like that's who
Speaker 2: makes all the commercials. Yeah, yeah, that's such an la
Speaker 2: fucking thing. I said, I'm sorry, I gotta go man.
Speaker 1: Like calling out the production company that that was Media
Speaker 1: Arts Lab. You can actually tell like there they have
Speaker 1: a very specific auturistic vision and sort of meason scene
Speaker 1: that you're always going to some very telltale signatures and
Speaker 1: visual flourishes. Yeah, Like replace color with sleek black obelisk
Speaker 1: is very hard, right, dystopian.
Speaker 2: White fascist for sure? Would you do this?
Speaker 1: What if the messiness of life was a slick black
Speaker 1: mirror you held in your hand? All right, let's see.
Speaker 1: Sex workers have gained historic labor rights in Belgium. In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, we talked about how Belgium became the
Speaker 1: first European country to decriminalize sex work, and while sex
Speaker 1: workers have still faced a number of significant issues since then,
Speaker 1: Belgium has passed historic legislation approving employment contract for sex workers,
Speaker 1: following years of lobbying efforts. They will be entitled to
Speaker 1: health insurance, pensions, unemployment, family benefits, holidays, and maternity leave,
Speaker 1: which is, yeah, I don't like that. It's one of
Speaker 1: those things where like I couldn't have imagined like such
Speaker 1: a like that's just such a great outcome that like
Speaker 1: seems almost difficult to imagine in America, you know, right
Speaker 1: where sex workers don't even count as humans in the
Speaker 1: mainstream media, like when they're talking about like crimes.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about how like AI sex quote
Speaker 2: unquote workers are have like like better chances of flourishing
Speaker 2: financially on the Internet than human beings do. And it's
Speaker 2: also just wild to even look at in the context.
Speaker 2: I'm like, just in general, any worker like in the
Speaker 2: United States being like pensions, unemployed, family benefits, but parent great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also like having this be an on the
Speaker 4: record vote, it's like unfathomable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so hard to imagine.
Speaker 2: We're truly just these like fucking fucked up animals like
Speaker 2: in a zoo in Americas.
Speaker 1: Like what do they have out there? What other part
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of politicians would really object
Speaker 1: to is that the sex workers are guaranteed the quote
Speaker 1: right to refuse a client or a sexual act, as
Speaker 1: well as the right to interrupt a sexual act at
Speaker 1: any time without fear of dismissal or punishment. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine that all the people in the Senate and
Speaker 1: House would be on board with that one.
Speaker 2: No, oh my god, I mean that's the thing. It's
Speaker 2: just we are just so just the way uh, like
Speaker 2: Congress is set up, and just like legislation, like legislative
Speaker 2: bodies across the country, like the idea to be like
Speaker 2: and we are extending a humane view on something like
Speaker 2: this is just unfathomable. And yeah, it goes against what
Speaker 2: so many and even fucking Democrats doesn't even matter. Like
Speaker 2: there's just still in America, we just have such a
Speaker 2: stupid uh what's the word I'm looking for. There's like
Speaker 2: a yeah, yeah, well that's a stupid ass ship.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 1: I know what you're trying to say. You're trying to say,
Speaker 1: we got stupid ass ship.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry. Yeah, that it's maligned in such a
Speaker 2: way that we're just unable to ever approach like a
Speaker 2: conversation about it creatively. Yeah, but yeah, again, sex work
Speaker 2: is real work. But yeah, you know, hats off to Belgium.
Speaker 2: Good for you, even though we were just talking about
Speaker 2: the the Congo, where Belgium definitely did a fucking number
Speaker 2: on Yeah, sorry, Leopold, Sorry about that, Leopold.
Speaker 1: So I mean there are other places where sex work
Speaker 1: has been decriminalized, like New Zealand, Germany and the Netherlands,
Speaker 1: and so hopefully this will inspire similar regulations in those countries.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take that, But those governments have not
Speaker 1: set up a comparable legal framework, but maybe this will
Speaker 1: inspire them.
Speaker 4: To do so, my honest, biggest surprise, and maybe this
Speaker 4: is just me glorifying mentally the I don't know, the
Speaker 4: like European social safety net. I guess I was a
Speaker 4: little surprised that these things were not like de facto
Speaker 4: extended to all human beings in Belgium.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, but what do I know. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 2: a perfect country man, just so you know, like it's
Speaker 2: so bad once you move there.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back, And so Warner Brothers in
Speaker 1: an earnings call CEO David Zave this Azz as we
Speaker 1: call him on this show. We're big fans, specifically big
Speaker 1: fans of the fact that he like doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: he can make a good decision, like he seems like
Speaker 1: speaking of allergies, he seems allergic making good decisions. But
Speaker 1: also just like for the extra flair or big fans
Speaker 1: of the time when he made everybody watch Fleabag on
Speaker 1: his yacht but then like paused it and was like,
Speaker 1: this is too horny. Either we stop it now, or
Speaker 1: we continue watching and nobody's allowed to look at me
Speaker 1: while I jack off, or that's not how he put it,
Speaker 1: he said, or we keep watching and nobody looks at
Speaker 1: each other, which is such a weird, oh weird request
Speaker 1: that I has to be nobody looks at me while
Speaker 1: I jack off. But anyways, is hyping some stuff that
Speaker 1: I think is really going to be exciting to everybody
Speaker 1: listening and both of you guys. He's hyping new streaming bundles,
Speaker 1: specifically a bundle with Max, Hulu and Disney Plus aka
Speaker 1: cable television without the regulations, right, yeah, yeah, but he said,
Speaker 1: it does feel like this is a moment, doesn't it, Guys,
Speaker 1: You feel like this feels like it's a moment in
Speaker 1: terms of what the next year two years will bring.
Speaker 1: Restructuring is underway and streaming and the business will look
Speaker 1: a lot different in two to three years. It will
Speaker 1: be a lot better for consumers. Yeah, that's always what
Speaker 1: he's looking classic. Yeah, holy bit dumb, unintelligible names for everything, man,
Speaker 1: I mean it will be Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Are we just gonna fucking I mean, honestly, this is
Speaker 2: what we've been saying, kind of like the absurdity of
Speaker 2: all the streaming is like it what we're just doing
Speaker 2: cable again. It's just gonna be like streaming cable now.
Speaker 4: Basically I did not realize. So my day job in
Speaker 4: my twenties was I worked at Comedy Central Digital, you know,
Speaker 4: in back in the day, and I remember being mystified
Speaker 4: because they were just like, you know, Internet's the future,
Speaker 4: we're going to be it's this weird. I mean, I
Speaker 4: think that the two parts of this episode that are
Speaker 4: so bizarre to me that I just don't relate to
Speaker 4: because I think it's stupid and wrong. Are these like
Speaker 4: tech people's obsession with the pipe, like the gear that
Speaker 4: makes something as opposed to what that thing.
Speaker 2: Is, right.
Speaker 4: I think I worked with people that genuinely assumed they
Speaker 4: would be running like creative development of Comedy Central, because
Speaker 4: they were the ones that were like building the websites
Speaker 4: and stuff. And I'm like why, and it was like, well,
Speaker 4: we know the Internet, and it's like, yeah, the Internet
Speaker 4: is like a tube really like genuinely like if you
Speaker 4: think that, like.
Speaker 1: To them, it's the it's a delivery tube.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it was so bizarre that these people genuinely seem
Speaker 4: to believe this, and I think they I guess they
Speaker 4: clearly still do, and you know, the people that pay
Speaker 4: them definitely still do.
Speaker 1: Because it's like I work at Regal Cinema's concessions and
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for Nolan to call me and ask
Speaker 1: me to start in his next picture.
Speaker 2: He's gonna, yeah, he's gonna want to develop my screenplay
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: It's got some pretty cool things.
Speaker 2: Yeah that yeah, that is me. I am the guy
Speaker 2: who fucked the dune bucket. Yeah, do you want to
Speaker 2: make a move? No, oh, you asked me to leave?
Speaker 4: Okay, Sorry, sorry, andre No, no, no, I think that's
Speaker 4: just that it's it's this thing where like I think,
Speaker 4: I think this will genuinely believes that this stuff getting
Speaker 4: delivered via an app app is materially different for the consumer.
Speaker 2: Than cable, right.
Speaker 4: I think he generally believes this, and it's some of
Speaker 4: the stupidest shit I've just like, but that's what's funny
Speaker 4: talking about.
Speaker 2: But like to your point, Andrew, right, like the people
Speaker 2: who were working on that early stuff who believed it
Speaker 2: because they're like, yeah, because I know this shit. But
Speaker 2: then the problem is these older or like people in
Speaker 2: like more senior leadership roles can't acknowledge they don't know it,
Speaker 2: so they go into this same energy's like I know
Speaker 2: this ship and I'm not gonna I'm not about to
Speaker 2: let you of the goes it to me.
Speaker 4: It was this thing where it's like I again, it
Speaker 4: was it was that like people who are like I
Speaker 4: don't know, like essentially like if they were a tech
Speaker 4: company that were in project managers, like we're gonna be
Speaker 4: the ones developing Daily show or whatever, it's.
Speaker 2: Like oh yeah, making that jump. Yeah, But it's the same.
Speaker 4: It's the same as like Zaslav thinking he under like
Speaker 4: it matters that if script It's like, yeah, I get
Speaker 4: you're in charge, but yeah, the are you talking about it?
Speaker 4: You haven't had no point, like like exhibited any taste
Speaker 4: of anything.
Speaker 2: Would you?
Speaker 1: As somebody who worked on a creative website that was
Speaker 1: owned by a company that main was mainly focused on
Speaker 1: S e O and that was their area of expertise,
Speaker 1: but they had notes for us on the creative I
Speaker 1: have no idea what you're talking about, never experienced any
Speaker 1: such thing.
Speaker 2: Can you make more for cheaper? Yeah? Yeah, that's not
Speaker 2: how the creative shit works.
Speaker 4: Do you think it could be like more funny, humorous?
Speaker 4: Laugh a minute atale?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just how do we scale the laughs in the chuckles?
Speaker 2: We've got this other subsidiary brand that uses uh just
Speaker 2: like chat bots to come up with videos and they
Speaker 2: do it for really cheap, Like maybe you can do
Speaker 2: that for funny stuff too.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 9: Maybe guys should meet them, Maybe you should meet them
Speaker 9: and pick their brain the chat bots. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: I can get it. You want, I can get it
Speaker 9: to me do a joke right now if you want
Speaker 9: me to. But I mean like it, I love that
Speaker 9: this this whole thing too. On top of him being like, yeah,
Speaker 9: this is a fucking moment, he's also just doubled back
Speaker 9: to fucking show how out of touch this whole fucking
Speaker 9: world is to be.
Speaker 2: Like. Yeah, also announcing another live action Lord of the
Speaker 2: Rings movie, but this one is about Galla Yea, and
Speaker 2: everyone's like, who gives a ship?
Speaker 1: This one's also from Peter Jackson though, And by that
Speaker 1: I mean he's not writing or he's not directing it,
Speaker 1: the thing that he's known for, he's just right with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in chat because it's going to be Andy serkis
Speaker 2: Who's that's going to be interesting. Andy serkis starring and
Speaker 2: directing the Galla movie. That feels like a lot like
Speaker 2: is he gonna be like just hobbling around on a
Speaker 2: mo cash stage? And then's like, all right, let me.
Speaker 2: I was like, I need to go to the video
Speaker 2: village to just see some playback.
Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta say a character if you're going
Speaker 4: to direct that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the video village.
Speaker 4: Could somebody get me some banana pudding from I will
Speaker 4: also just say all these fucking studio heads and who
Speaker 4: are pretending like all of their decisions now are like
Speaker 4: just passionate data in bullshit. The spate of Lord of
Speaker 4: the Rings stuff really kind of like I think should
Speaker 4: put a dagger in that idea because it's like, these
Speaker 4: guys are doing Lord of the Rings. Amazon paid you know,
Speaker 4: fucking what, multi billion dollars.
Speaker 1: For the ip most expensive like ever made.
Speaker 4: Yeah, after Game of Thrones came out. Tells me two things.
Speaker 4: One is like as expected, like the AI, all it
Speaker 4: can do is look at the past and it could
Speaker 4: tell you, yeah, Lord of the Rings did well, which
Speaker 4: guess what any of us could tell you that, yeah?
Speaker 4: Or which I think the thing that I think is
Speaker 4: actually happening, which is this is still driven by the
Speaker 4: preferences of you know, nine white, mostly white guys, Like
Speaker 4: they're doing this because the people that run these companies
Speaker 4: like Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 2: Because that's the shit they grew up on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're fucking nerds, which is fine, But like
Speaker 4: pretending that these are like, you know, masterful business decisions
Speaker 4: is like, this is just as much Aboussion project or
Speaker 4: anything else. It's just like they they have no imagination.
Speaker 1: It's just like vaguely similar to a previous passion project
Speaker 1: that succeeded.
Speaker 2: That at one time had passion behind it.
Speaker 1: It's like and is now just a diminished.
Speaker 4: This is a businessman's passion project.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the Lord of the Rings, Amazon like prime
Speaker 1: video thing. I was shocked by how little it like
Speaker 1: actually existed, Like it.
Speaker 2: Had a something like a thirty seven percent completion rate
Speaker 2: from people who started watching it.
Speaker 4: And I've genuinely I've heard it's really good. I don't
Speaker 4: think this is about anyone making but it is like
Speaker 4: throwing that kind of resource behind a thing and and
Speaker 4: like not green lighting things or canceling things because of
Speaker 4: quote unquote data doesn't all compute, like right, like the
Speaker 4: thing is if you're going to be quote unquote you know,
Speaker 4: data driven, dispassionate masters of the universe, it has to
Speaker 4: be for everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I cut through it.
Speaker 4: It is beyond clear that this is just like here
Speaker 4: because like because they like.
Speaker 2: It, I'm sure whatever. They probably had to pay to
Speaker 2: license that IP. They're like, we got to fucking make
Speaker 2: something back.
Speaker 4: Sure, yes, yes, but paying side down on this, paying
Speaker 4: to license it for that price was purely based on passion. Again,
Speaker 4: a businessman's passion, but passion like but like, don't pretend
Speaker 4: like you know you're doing this because it's the best
Speaker 4: business decision if you just want to do it.
Speaker 2: It's just funny because like the continued exploitation of this
Speaker 2: intellectual property, this ip has only just brought like diminishing returns.
Speaker 2: Like there was a they made a fucking Gollum video
Speaker 2: game last year and it was universally acknowledged, Like this
Speaker 2: is one of the worst fucking video games of all time.
Speaker 2: Like you're just fucking galluming around and Ship he's like
Speaker 2: the least interesting case, Like you never like you know
Speaker 2: who I want to be in a video game, this
Speaker 2: heroin addict who just fucking slithers around in the fucking shadows.
Speaker 2: Like it's not a fucking fun game. Like the voiceover
Speaker 2: shit was so off. There's like for people who are
Speaker 2: like into YouTube, like game reviews, this guy game Donkey
Speaker 2: did like a really fucking hilariously scathing review of it,
Speaker 2: and this Ship it has a thirty six on Metacritic. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's how bad this game is. And it was so
Speaker 2: bad the fucking developers of the game had to apologize
Speaker 2: for the game being so shit. They said, like in
Speaker 2: their like releases, like quote, we would like to sincerely
Speaker 2: apologize for the underwhelming experience many of you have had
Speaker 2: with the Lord of the Lord of Ring Gollum. First
Speaker 2: of all, in the Ring. In the letter they called
Speaker 2: it the Lord of Ring Colon Gollam. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: the Lord of Ring Dude, I love it of fun.
Speaker 2: We acknowledge and deeply regret that the game did not
Speaker 2: meet the expectations we set for ourselves or for our
Speaker 2: dedicated community. Please accept our sincere apologies for any disappointment
Speaker 2: this may have caused. Once again, we deeply apologize for
Speaker 2: any inconvenience caused, and we appreciate your understanding. During this time,
Speaker 2: we will continue to keep you updated on our progress
Speaker 2: and provide a trans like they're like, we're gonna make
Speaker 2: it better. We're gonna make it better. It's like you're
Speaker 2: you're not.
Speaker 1: They were so serious and so like devastated like about
Speaker 1: this performance that they outsourced the writing of the apology
Speaker 1: letter to like a shitty AI the Lord of iringm game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say this, listen, teddy uh psychang video
Speaker 4: game developers.
Speaker 2: I think like a like a.
Speaker 4: Like a sixteen bit style fishing simulator with Gollum.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Yeah, Like what's Gollum good at you know,
Speaker 2: just fucking hob hopping around in the mud finding weird ship.
Speaker 1: Well, this is before Miles to be fair to this project,
Speaker 1: and I do want to be fair to it. This
Speaker 1: this is based on storylines yet to be told, So
Speaker 1: it's basically going to be stuff that was from the
Speaker 1: first book that was omitted for brevity. Like that's I
Speaker 1: guess what happened with the Prime show was like these
Speaker 1: were little side projects or like you know, based on
Speaker 1: manuscript stuff that like didn't get included to a large
Speaker 1: degree because again it's like the original like Peter Jackson,
Speaker 1: he he had lots of hours to work with when
Speaker 1: he was making The Lord of the Rings and the
Speaker 1: Hobbit series, he chose not.
Speaker 2: To tell these fucking stories.
Speaker 1: Like his artist's brain was like, you know what story
Speaker 1: would actually fucking suck and we should just like cut
Speaker 1: that out. Is like nobody needs to know how Gollum
Speaker 1: got that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we get it. Yeah, especially like because it's
Speaker 2: not like he has any skills again that you're like
Speaker 2: he can fly or has super strength. It's like this
Speaker 2: dude has like Lebron James hair and fucking crawls around
Speaker 2: on all fours and Lebron James' I mean, look like
Speaker 2: the Lakers are out and I'm pissed about it, so
Speaker 2: I gotta i gotta direct it with somebody. But yeah, again,
Speaker 2: this is just it. It It blows my fucking mind
Speaker 2: that they keep trying to make this thing happen. Just
Speaker 2: let Lord of Ring, Lord of Ring Glum just go
Speaker 2: bye bye. And again, like the idea that they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know this, all the scraps on the floor the
Speaker 2: meat processing plant, Let's turn that into like a new
Speaker 2: product that everyone's gonna love hot dog, you know, and
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 1: But I mean it worked for hot Dog.
Speaker 2: It did work for hot Dog. But I think that's
Speaker 2: truly Yeah, when when we're talking about stuff on the
Speaker 2: d like literally the editing room floor being like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is so well.
Speaker 4: It's also like, again, since those movies came out, Game
Speaker 4: of Thrones happened, Like it's so bizarre to go back
Speaker 4: to the older PG thing after the medium has clearly progressed.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, and you know what part of Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones didn't work storylines yet to be told. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the part that really ship the vent. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: let's do a feature length deleted scene. You you won't
Speaker 1: have to worry about what whether there's like post credits
Speaker 1: scenes on this, because the entire thing is a post
Speaker 1: credits right.
Speaker 2: Pretty soon Zaslav will be like, let's just like, you
Speaker 2: know those outtakes, those are pretty funny. Yeah, when bas care,
Speaker 2: let's just call can we string that together? Lord of
Speaker 2: Ring outtakes gollum TM.
Speaker 1: Lord of Ring, The rest is still unwritten.
Speaker 2: The Lord of Ring, the.
Speaker 1: Rest is still unwritten. God, Andrew T. What a pleasure
Speaker 1: having you daily, Thanks for having me. Where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Man? Still still you know it's this crisist. We got
Speaker 4: a premium show. It's fun.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's don't find me walking around the Patreon. Yeah, well
Speaker 4: it's a yeah, it's that it's a suboptimal pods dot com.
Speaker 4: We have a show where we also don't talk about race.
Speaker 4: It's the spoonful of Sugar approach.
Speaker 1: There you go, and otherwise they can just find you taking.
Speaker 4: Just if you can walk slow enough, you can find me,
Speaker 4: like the Flash, but you gotta be slow enough.
Speaker 1: Taking walks near a water as Yeah, it doesn't near
Speaker 1: a water water doesn't need to be an ocean. You
Speaker 1: can just water than you can. Is there a work
Speaker 1: of media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it's fucking Challengers.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I still got the score because
Speaker 2: the second I saw it's Trent Reznor and Atticus, I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 4: More it's more noticeably a those guys score. Then oh really,
Speaker 4: I I guess The Killer had one because I I
Speaker 4: just it's one of those things where you forget like
Speaker 4: working composers do lots of stuff and lots of different styles.
Speaker 4: This is like, oh yeah, clearly these guys did this
Speaker 4: one right. Yeah, look it's it's I will just say
Speaker 4: I was It was not the movie I was expecting
Speaker 4: by a million miles, and it was much better than
Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna be. And I thought it
Speaker 4: was gonna be good.
Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, it makes me very pretty good.
Speaker 2: I would I would watch it.
Speaker 4: But also watched the Last Slam Dunk. But okay, so
Speaker 4: I will just say, you guys are sports heads. Both
Speaker 4: of those movies do a thing that I really liked,
Speaker 4: and I know other sports movies have done it, but
Speaker 4: this felt like there was an element of style above
Speaker 4: this and they I'm guessing they can't have been that
Speaker 4: inspired by each other, but maybe, yeah, you saw Last
Speaker 4: Time Note. But what they do is they take two
Speaker 4: sports that are very very to of eyes, basketball and tennis,
Speaker 4: and they do a good job of finding other ways
Speaker 4: of shooting it. Like my favorite shots from both of
Speaker 4: those movies are basically a theoretical your pov the ball
Speaker 4: oh okay wow, which is like it's just like a
Speaker 4: thing you never like, no one would get to see ever.
Speaker 2: Such a broke, such a bro moment. Jack and I
Speaker 2: had like, whoa wait, I was ball the ball, the ball?
Speaker 2: I was me.
Speaker 1: Like Andrew, so we all know ball is life, but
Speaker 1: this film presupposes is what if I is ball?
Speaker 4: But it truly there's like two shots. My favorite one
Speaker 4: of those shots though, is in Last Time Done, I
Speaker 4: won't I'll just give it away? Who gives a ship?
Speaker 4: It's pov as if you're in the center of the ball,
Speaker 4: it's transparent and you're looking down on the tip off,
Speaker 4: and it was like.
Speaker 1: Fun, that's a cool Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just like a.
Speaker 4: Cool shot that I was like, oh yeah, it never
Speaker 4: really occurred. To me that I wanted to see that.
Speaker 2: That's coolly no way, Yeah, doing your thing. I have
Speaker 2: a slam dunk jersey that I bought a knockoff one
Speaker 2: online that someone Oh you can't buy a rail one.
Speaker 2: Yeah you gotta go yeah yeah yeah, like a shot
Speaker 2: hook like jersey anyway, they got him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I did not watch the anime, but the movie is
Speaker 4: great and there are shocking similarities. But I truly know
Speaker 4: it's like that's my double feature. If I forget to
Speaker 4: program one, it is those two movies back.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much for you you joined
Speaker 1: on such late notice. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely the best.
Speaker 4: Anything to not write. I love that writing.
Speaker 2: That's how I go, hey, hey you got to write
Speaker 2: anything right now? Yeah, hey you want to come on?
Speaker 2: You want to come on easier? Yes, I love you.
Speaker 1: On assignment man a deadline, Yeah yeah, we have the guests.
Speaker 1: Don't need to show up. We got we got Andrews
Speaker 1: on deadline. We're good for a week.
Speaker 4: About deadline, I just want to finish this fucking like
Speaker 4: I've just been trying to write this fucking movie.
Speaker 1: Nice miles miles of wikimedia.
Speaker 2: You've been enjoying at Miles of Gray, at Miles of Gray,
Speaker 2: at Miles of Gray, And each time I said that
Speaker 2: that was relating to a different platform, I try to
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Speaker 2: find Jack and I our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack.
Speaker 2: I'm madees. And you can also find me talking and
Speaker 2: a shit about ninety day fiance on Top twenty. I
Speaker 2: talked that shit. Some tweets I like. I got a few.
Speaker 2: First one at Mitch's Diary tweeted, you know how some
Speaker 2: people brag about quitting smoking cold turkey, Well I just
Speaker 2: picked it up hot turkey, straight into addiction. Stupid. Another
Speaker 2: one at crank t Nelson tweeted, it's so wild that
Speaker 2: you can say the guy running for president who's suffering
Speaker 2: from major cognitive impairment, and it doesn't narrow down who
Speaker 2: you're talking about even a little bit.
Speaker 1: Not one doesn't eliminate a single of the three major candidates.
Speaker 2: And then there's another one from at a underscore pseudonym.
Speaker 2: It's someone like it quote tweeted this old tweet from
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. It's it's of Joe Biden, like clearly
Speaker 2: coming off like the staircase of like air Force one
Speaker 2: or something, and it said, can someone explain what actually
Speaker 2: happened here? And then they just quote tweeted it mustn't
Speaker 2: it on the beat? Hope it looks.
Speaker 1: Like it really does.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's such a glorious.
Speaker 1: That's great. Let's see some tweets I've been enjoying at
Speaker 1: Can't Ever Die. Congratulations to that person tweeted how do
Speaker 1: coworkers watch so much stuff? And that's something that I
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Speaker 1: so we link off to the information we talked about
Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we
Speaker 1: think you might enjoy, Miles, what song do you think
Speaker 1: people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: This is a bit of like psychedelic jazz R and
Speaker 2: B from this group called Cousin Koula k U La.
Speaker 2: They're from Bristol in it it's called Poisoned and it's
Speaker 2: just like a dope. It's kind of like a trippy
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I said, they describe their music
Speaker 2: as kind of like psychedelic jazzy R and B kind
Speaker 2: of thing, and that's just kind of the wave I'm on.
Speaker 2: Just like I'm on. I still on my drum and
Speaker 2: bas shit, but I still also need I'd love to
Speaker 2: hear people play the actual instruments. And this is a
Speaker 2: great band. So again Poisoned by Cousin Koula. It's just
Speaker 2: a nice you know, wait to go into your weekend
Speaker 2: and watch your wallpaper milk here all right?
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Speaker 1: Until then, have a great weekend everyone, Bye bye