1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hey ya hey, Sellen Wilson, Rap right Off and me 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: and my partner beat Our Miller. And you know we 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: got the premiere website out there, rap right dot com. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: And now I'm about to take over the podcast game. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: We want to sit down with the coaches most important voices. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: Give you that news and information at opinion, the only 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: opinion that matters. Man here, rap right off, Listen up, yeah, 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: rap rate our podcast. Elliot Wilson, be dot Brian Miller, 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: what's up, sir? That's me? Are you doing with back at? 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: I feel like I see you in a minute, Man, 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: You don't if you see each other man, you changed. Man, 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm traveling with future everywhere. Man. That guy this stury 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: is over? Man? Did he hire you? I saw you 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: with a microphone. There was a walkie tokyo on Instagram. 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: What's going on? Ye, I'm trying to make some things happen. Man. 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: You never know if this journalism thing is gonna work 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: out of that, this whole podcasting thing might not work. 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: One thing I saw a lot man when I was 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: on the road. Man, these damn tour buses, man busses everywhere. 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: You were on a tour bus to a little a 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: bill that wasn't on the buck man. But busses is cool. Man, 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: we actually got some support for busses. Man. Do you 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: know about bus mental dot com? And what is that? 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: Bus mental dot com? It's part of the part of 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: the family. Baby, you know about that? Put me down? 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: What's going on? It's the only way to travel, man. 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: If you want to go somewhere, Man, you just select 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: your starting address and your destination. They give you an 29 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: instant quote. You ever been with your homies been like, yo, 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: we just take a bus cod like on the weekend 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: trips to like six Flags anything after the prom. Yo. 32 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: It's so easy. It's like, let's go to bus mental 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: dot com. Like I said, just put your destination where 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: you want to go to give you a rate. That's 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: a good way to go. Then you could have a 36 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: good time. You know, our our guests today talks a 37 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: lot about consumption of certain things. You don't have to 38 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: worry about that, right right. The driver is a bus driver. 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: The bus driver will take care. You can party as 40 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: hard as you want, not to worry about anything. So 41 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: it's like you can make your own party bus, make 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: your own party bus man. It's that simple, man to 43 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: make sure you go check them out of bus mental 44 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: dot com. And you know we got him with a 45 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: little promo code, just little something. Okay, the paper CBS, 46 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: the paper fipper set hit that CBS bus. It'll get 47 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: you five percent off your next trip on that bus 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: mental dot com. Like I said, man, it's a good 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: way to travel with the home. We ain't gotta worry 50 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 1: about nothing. Have a good time out there. Springs coming 51 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: up summertime. Go to bus mental dot com. Well, one 52 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: thing people are going to man is to wrap in 53 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: our podcast. Man, it's Angie Martinez. Man, that's whenever. It's 54 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: always a new chap Man. The people are saying it though, 55 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: but it's like it really feels like it's butting the 56 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: most feedback we've gotten in a wild because Courstion wasn't 57 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: here is that's why it was no shout to seth 58 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: Step came in because anti Martinez, he's both guard it 59 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: not because we had to do a real late no 60 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: video for Angie. That was the unfortunate part. But everything 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: else was on point. So what do you think it was? 62 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: I think people just love hearing her curse and all 63 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: that fun stuff. Just still personality. People love legends, man, 64 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Andree has been in the game for years, so she 65 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: has a lot to talk about and thinks she hasn't 66 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: talked about too, So it's also a different perspective. Man. 67 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: People love the behind the scene things and even one insight. 68 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of our listeners looking for 69 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: inspiration and we could draw it out of a legend 70 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: like her. Definitely, And you gotta shout Angie out man, 71 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: because she gave us a real exclusive look. She only 72 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: did People dot Com and then when she did a 73 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: brief lowent interview and then she did a sit down 74 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: with us, and that was why she announced the book, 75 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: like she announced it with us before she even announced 76 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: it on her show. So I gotta show a lot 77 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: of love to her. Man. We really appreciate that. Man. 78 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: What's the feedback saying no news all right? Tune comments 79 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: when you have to subscribe, Man, that raperate our podcast. Man, 80 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: inscribe saying something when we move up on the I 81 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: tunes charts there trying to hate on listen these I 82 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: tune charts now that the chance is all screwy, man, 83 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: screw me out here. It's funny, man, it's funny, Man. 84 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't add up man. But so the only way 85 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: to really change that it makes you subscribe, rate and 86 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: review the podcast. The great thing about doing that, as 87 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: soon as the podcast episode goes live, you get access 88 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: to it. You don't have to wait. You know, we're 89 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: on the play dot it player. There's no SoundCloud links. 90 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: We don't get down with none of that. It's all 91 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: about either going to play dot at, slash rap or iTunes. 92 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: I subscribed to us, man, we live that iTunes lifestyle. Man. 93 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: We want to be big on them charts. Man, we 94 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: need your supports. So makes you subscribe and also leave 95 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: a comment, because if you leave a comment, we may 96 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: read it on the air, which is what I'm about 97 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: to do right now. We got I'm scared coursing. You know, 98 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: these guys talk crazy to me. Let me see what's 99 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 1: going on. Plug up five stars, says Angie Martinez, Elliot 100 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: Wilson and beat dot equal jay Z fan club. A 101 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: lot of homes talking the last episode. How could you 102 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: not fan we're also the president. How could it not 103 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: be a lot of jay Z jay Z talking to 104 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: Angie Martina's podcast. Man, those guys didn't, let you know, 105 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: nevery interviews together. What do you want from us. We 106 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: used to give us five stars. I appreciate that. Another 107 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: five star givers my man beat on p He says, 108 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: you're Elliott. Stop cutting people off, bro, it's annoying. You 109 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: need to cut it. I need to cut it. I 110 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: thought I get but I got better with that. I 111 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: mean they're working on it's a working progress. A lot 112 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: of short comments is to time. Although it's calling up. 113 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: People have a lot to say. They want to get 114 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: real direct. It was a dope whack hot someone's calling 115 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: themselves Ben Simmons, Lakers. Okay, five stars, great apps this week, 116 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: you'all might be number one wine apps. Really copy you 117 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: guys all wind up is copying? We see one. I 118 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: did have that, jo Alrenymore don't that's copying. But you 119 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: know I'm glad we did them first. Let's all I 120 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: say about that. Yes, all right, So just like the 121 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: a lot, Sebastian is a Sebastian. Sebastian Prudence says, I 122 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: want to work for you. Okay, there you go, five stars. Yeah, 123 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: what budget you got for that? I gotta touch somebody 124 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: up here? Was by rewards negotiated some I'm constantly looking 125 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: on the CBS Local website. There you go for employment 126 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: opportunities because I want to be behind the camera. They 127 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: trying to take the video person out of course, what's 128 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: going on for these rap rightoff videos? The young lady 129 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: was just in here setting up the camera. Get everything right. 130 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: Just you try to take her job, You try to 131 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: take food out of her family of mouth. The comsson 132 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: turned into monster dot com Man, what the fuck? Miss? 133 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: Here's it go? Mr Wilson, Mr Miller, please give this 134 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: video guy job seriously at my resume rady to send 135 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: all right? Man, Hey man, you can't you can't take 136 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: people's positions out here. Man, you got jobs here at TPS. 137 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Man a little out of line there, but we appreciate 138 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: the support. Man four stars is Drew Daddy two and 139 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: five says could be better in the headline, this podcast 140 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: could be better if beat I didn't deride the guests 141 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: so much. Damn and Ellie needs to do his homework 142 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: on an artist more. You let podcasters down. I don't 143 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: believe that person really believes anything they just said. I 144 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: think that's all just trying to be controversial. Somebody said 145 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: support Detroit artists please. I love the podcasting blob, but 146 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: you're on't support up and coming artists were now here 147 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: the support up and coming artists had. Up and coming arts. 148 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: We have post Malone. We had a little break it down. Man. 149 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: They tought out south By, saw a losey verd everywhere. 150 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: South By We're equal opportunity podcast. Alright. So the next 151 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: one is John. John is important for the culture. Five stars, 152 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: best hip hop podcasts in the world, Beat On, Ellie 153 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: bring great interviews with most support figure before I think 154 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: I did, probably read it again. It's new to me. 155 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: It's all right. Everybody loves us, man, that's the common theme. Man, 156 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: everybody loves us. We're gonna keep going. We have a 157 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: podcast we're proud of. We're gonna record right now. We've 158 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: got another guests lined up. I love this guy, this guest, 159 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: this guy, he calls himself the best interview in hip 160 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: hopin He might be right. He's putting the pressure on. 161 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: He's following up some really legendary interviews. And this guy 162 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: already thinks that. And he's and he's got a podcast. 163 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: He's our label mate, and he's got a podcast on CBS. 164 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: This fucking guy cut to the back door. Is he 165 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: competition now? And he's from Queen's It's a trifect that 166 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: the fightest fixed talking about Noriega Man, Noria, No, Ris 167 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: here Man, finally Man, he got the he got the 168 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: album Drunk Uncle dropping on Friday's got the podcast called 169 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: Drink Champs. I'm sending a theme right there. Drink Champs 170 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: is the podcast, Drunk Uncle is the album, Triple A 171 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: is the sponsor. I'm going down on Friday Man. So 172 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: we excited. He's hearing bad way chopped chopped up with 173 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: Dorian a bit. He's a fool. This cannot be a 174 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: three hour episode. That's what I say before I have 175 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: to go. I have to go. I gave you all 176 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: night because nor can easily do three hours like nothing. 177 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: That's what he does, all right? Does he have any 178 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: alcoholic beverages for he just might might have some Tiger Bone? Oh, 179 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: I hate that kid that. I'm excited and you like 180 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: the we're buying over what our favorite cutters before he 181 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: comes in. I like the Moment's record, moments record, or 182 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: you have a big scoop on something he addressed in there, 183 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: which we'll say, which involves jay Z again, which you 184 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: can't escape. So I like the Moment's Record and then 185 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: your favorite is thinking the one with Sleepy Brown kill Mike, 186 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: that his first collaboration will kill the Mike. It might 187 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: be nas called us. We'll spend it, we spend make 188 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: him pay that ship pick d kill him, Mike killing 189 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: mikey nor Who would have thought man and Sleepy brand? 190 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: Will you find Sleepy Brown? That man? And I think 191 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: it's the West Coast producer or something because he said 192 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: he said west Southeast, Okay, So to bring it together, 193 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Amber rolls on the project. You 194 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: got a girly track with Amber Rose doing a skit 195 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: on top of that, so you don't NOI man, he 196 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: don't stop. Man. I got determined. Like I said, he 197 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: got a new album, you got a new podcast, So 198 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: it's time to chop it up. Man. He's always a 199 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: good fun to talk to this guy. We're right back 200 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: with Noria hang wrap rate our podcast. Welcome to Play 201 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities, talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, 202 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: and more. Play it at play dot in Hey Yesterday 203 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: and Sullen Wilson rap right off and me and my 204 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: partner beat our Miller Man with the only opinion that 205 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: matters man here rap right off? Yeah, beats walking him 206 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: in so queens right now, a lot of people. It's crazy, Queens. 207 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: There's too many people. Man Nori plus seven team man 208 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: NOI plus seventh. You know he's got his fellow podcasting 209 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: too much. Oh my god, too much. We live what 210 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about that I need don't preparation. What's you 211 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: for this guy? Yeah? Yeah, that's what you gotta be 212 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: outside everybody. Yeah, what's up? You gotta do my calls? Yes, yeah, 213 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: everybody called him guy, never spend let's go beat up 214 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: in the chair man. That's what's up. So d j 215 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: D Nori, Yes, out here trying to take food off 216 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: my table? No, no, no, no, First of all, welcome Nori, 217 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Come on, you guys gonna be 218 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: quiet unless you have the sound of change. You be 219 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: trying to join the tape. Listen, let me putting the headphone. 220 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: Please you with this. You gotta we gotta get the 221 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: best interview in the game. We gotta get Beats headphones 222 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: to supply. I think that's a budget. It's not in 223 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: the budget they charged for that. We worked on it. 224 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, Well, I just want to tell everybody 225 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to be clear. Um, any journalists, real journalists 226 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: have no nothing to worry about because we're not fact checking. 227 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: That's a shortlist, you said to a real journalist. No, no, no, 228 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: you guys, you guys, you guys know you're a journalist, 229 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: but um, you know we're not. We're not fact checking 230 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: in our podcasts and we're not. In fact, if you 231 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: learned something from our podcast, we might be offended. We 232 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: don't want you to learn ship why not, because we haven't. 233 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: He likes to call it barbershop talk. I like to 234 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 1: call it barbershop talk. After the barber is closed the 235 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: thing and then they sit down, they smoke a blunt. 236 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: That's what it is to me. Off the record, maniac mania. 237 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: I can't believes gave us some love. God damn it. 238 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: Maybe a labelmates crazy. Two of my brothers from Queens 239 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, um right, y'are part of the drink Champs. 240 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: You're part of the reason. Um while I came here 241 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: because um, we had a great opportunity. What's the name 242 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: of him? Come come over here, dj F He's your 243 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: partner in this crazy podcast. The original cast, the original 244 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: podcast that loud Speakers they wanted and you know the 245 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: man everybody. Um, but I felt like it was crowded, 246 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like I've I've done 247 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: a situation where I've been in death jam and um 248 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: that so many like, you know, I gotta wait for 249 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: method man to drop. I gotta wait from fucking Frederick 250 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: Star to drop his candy. You know what I'm saying, Like, 251 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta wait for drop that candy. Yeah, 252 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, feder I don't know why I just said that, 253 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: but you know, I've been in a clustered situation. And 254 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: I've also been a man at penalty where's twelve workers? 255 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: And I actually my only platinum Alblin was on penalty 256 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: with twelve workers, which Elliott Wilson gave before Mike's fall. 257 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: God damn it, we're talking about that later. Make they wanted, 258 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: they wanted half, we wouldn't have been here right now. 259 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: Bec it's crazy. Let that's my man, that's my man. 260 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: But um yeah, so um with the podcast thing, you know, um, 261 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: and the crazy thing is the podcast and my drunk 262 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: uncle project. Um, it's me listening to the internet. I 263 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: could have been an o g quote unquote and just 264 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: do what the funk I think it's dope, or I 265 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: could listen to my fans. Now, I don't read comments like, uh, 266 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: let me big up Rap Radar, let me big up 267 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: Black TV and World Star. But I don't read comments 268 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: on there because that's your fans, that's rat Radar fans, 269 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: and that's a Black TV fans and this World Star fans. 270 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: But I read my own comments like if if I 271 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: do something with you and I posted or do something 272 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: with whoever whever I posted, and everybody kept saying to me, yo, 273 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: you're my favorite drunk uncle. And I was like, damn, 274 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, I know. I'm thirty eight years old. So 275 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: even though Kanye is older than me, let me throw 276 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: that out there. Even though to changes didn't mean let 277 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: me throw that out there. Rick Ross is older than me, 278 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: let me go. You know what I mean, But they 279 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: call me their drunk uncle. So this is the first 280 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: time I actually listened to my fans. And then with 281 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: the Drink Chats podcast is like, you know, you guys 282 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: are journalist. I could never take your space. I could 283 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: never take your space like be dot look at his notes. 284 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: Look at them. Come on, he's never had the physical notes, 285 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: you know. Let me tell you on the phone story. No, 286 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: I watch you out very much, and I watched b 287 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: Dot and I see how he does his like he's 288 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: very informative. He said he's better than me. No, I 289 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: just say, I don't don't see you. I don't see 290 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: you blast out your notes. I see be Dit doing 291 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: his thing. Oh No, you're technical, You're technically you're you're 292 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: technically dope. You're technically up there. But so you know 293 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: we're not gonna we're not doing that with our podcast. 294 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: He did funk us up because you got fat your 295 00:14:53,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: first thing. Goddamnit even had an let me tell you 296 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: how much of my creek guy? Let me tell you 297 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: how much of a creed. I'll go to Fat Joe's studio. 298 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Random that Fat Joe's my friend, right, I love Fat Joe. Right. 299 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Fat Joe actually came to my crib one time and 300 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: took my kids. I was flipped on my caregiver. I 301 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: was like, what the fun did you just see a 302 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: fat Puerto Rican and you just think he's he didn't 303 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: take him nowhere. But I'm like, yo, but this is 304 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: how close we are. So I went to the studio. 305 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: I had heard him and remy was working on something. 306 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: I didn't hear they was doing the album, so I 307 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: went to the studio. I was actually getting going to 308 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: the studio to get my verse from Fat Joe. Fat 309 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: Joe was my brother. I tell you how hard it 310 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: is to ever get a verse from Fat Joe. Remind 311 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: me to bring that up. But so I'm sitting there 312 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, um, all right, He's like, nor did 313 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: you hear my ship? And I'm like, you know, you know, 314 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: Fat Joe runs his crew like his cruise. He got 315 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of Puerto Ricans. I'm so lucky. I'm Puerto 316 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: Rican and so I can relate to the situation. But 317 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: they played this all the way up and I'm like, 318 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: he's dropping this next week. I'm like, I know him, 319 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: so I don't play my record yet. Then he plays 320 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: like I listened to the whole album. He has a 321 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: whole album full of lean backs, like I mean lean 322 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: back babies. So I sat there back and I said, 323 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: I need you on my podcast, and don't I'm not 324 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: sure if Fat you'll know what the podcast is. He 325 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: didn't until you did it. And I said, just coming 326 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: over here and we're gonna bullshit. So we got to 327 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: the real nitty gritty. You know, I spoke about the 328 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: Rimy album. I couldn't believe he gave me the actual 329 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: album title. I was the right way, though, Nora. I 330 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. Though I'm being honest, I couldn't believe it. 331 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: Like I thought, I would have held it for rap Radar. 332 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, like if I was him, I 333 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: would have held it for Rap. I have held it 334 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: for the breakfast. But he was having me. I wanted 335 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: to talk about other things besides who you guys used 336 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: to slap and ship? He said. I went a little left, 337 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: like he's like, I love North, I'm never doing that. 338 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: I don't think he's coming back. I don't be honest 339 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: what I'm done. I was like, wait a minute, remember 340 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: when you slapped so and so. When I stopped so 341 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: and so, it just like yo, yeah yeah. But I 342 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: was mad at him because he kept asking CBS like 343 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: when he was doing the deal, he was like, you 344 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: should we break it up in two pieces? And I 345 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: was like, being a company guy, I'm sorry I didn't 346 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: tell you that in person, but I was like me 347 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: in a company guy, let's just give them what they get. 348 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, and so so again, no 349 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: journalist should be Um, it's like the way you and 350 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: Joe would talk behind the scene. Behind were being blessed 351 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: to hear that conversation. I was blessed to do something 352 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: called the what What document should be back in the days. 353 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: I never actually finished it, but I had Puff Daddy 354 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: the day that Shine No excuse me, like three days 355 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: before Shine did the case. I had him and Puff 356 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: Daddy together and Puff really didn't um look at the 357 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: red you know, because back in the days you had 358 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: the little red camera. Um with the little red and 359 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: Puff was the way Puff was talking. I had Nas 360 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: talking about backpack hip hop back in the days. He 361 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: hated backpack hip hop then, and and so I knew 362 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: I had the ability to get something pause, to get 363 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: something out of people where they actually think they're just 364 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: talking to me. So Um, when people saw approaching me 365 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: with this podcast thing, I'm gonna be honest, and I 366 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: know it's gonna sound harsh. The first people I've ever 367 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: seen do a podcast was Juan Epstein, and I love both. 368 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: I love both Cipher and I love both Rosenberg. But 369 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: I was bored when I did their podcast, meaning it 370 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: was the same exact thing that Hot ninety seven. Like 371 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: I was um watching my words, like when I say yo, 372 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: my nigga, I would say yo yo yoyo. You know 373 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I would edit myself. And it's 374 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: because it was done in Hot ninety seven. I didn't 375 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: feel I didn't feel the separation. So um and and 376 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: again I love them brothers because I don't want the headline. 377 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: You know, somebody gonna rip his headline and say no 378 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: research they were boring. No, I didn't mean it like that. 379 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: So what I mean is I felt like it should 380 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: have been something different from what they did at Hot. 381 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: They would have got more at you out of you. 382 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: They would have got more I not are doing that 383 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: Steale a different location of time, so you didn't there. 384 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: You would have got to run. And even like what 385 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: the noisemaker is like, um, I appreciate what they did, 386 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be honest, not because you're here. I 387 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: liked it yours better. Like it's like you looked at 388 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: this and was like, Okay, I see where they messed up, 389 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do it this way. Why do you 390 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: think you got so involved? Like like you said, you study, 391 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: you watch other people's interviews, Like why do you think 392 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: you got so consumed that you like, not for lack 393 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: of a better term, but got it fascinated with media 394 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: and wanting to find a way to like tell tell 395 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: stories and tell your story Like I didn't have a 396 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to pay for radio. You know what 397 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it's very simple, Like it's like, um, 398 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: like if you look at you know, Fat Joe's rolling 399 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: out process. You know, Fat Joe spend that bread, Like 400 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like what I mean by 401 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: that is not spending bread paying DJs when he paid 402 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: somebody to to to to make sure his his rollout 403 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: is dope. Um, I didn't have that. I don't have that. 404 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't have like just a hundred thousand dollars to 405 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: just throw out there and just sit around and wait. 406 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: So what I did was I realized that if I 407 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: learned the game just like Little League, like I might 408 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: not have been the best Little League player, but I 409 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: knew everything. I knew everything, So I got more trophies 410 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: in little League than I have in basketball. Because I 411 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: like to study things and I'm dyslexic. So when I'm 412 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: saying I'm dyslexic because everybody could. You can, like, if 413 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: you look at the murder rap You've seen that documentary 414 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: about Biggie Smalls in Tupac Murder Rat, right, and if 415 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: you look at it, it's a big conspiracy. And then 416 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: this this guy, he comes down and he goes, well, 417 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: that's not what happened. This is what happened. The reason 418 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: why I don't believe his story or it's because he 419 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: broke it down like how I would like, how how 420 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: can a cop and me have the same type of relationship. 421 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: What I mean by that is he broke it down 422 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: in a simplistic form. And that's what I do with life. 423 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: Like if you tell me, you know you're gonna have 424 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: a deal with def Jam and you're gonna have a 425 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: deal with le All and then you gotta go to this, 426 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: I just look at it in the most simplex, simplistic form. 427 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: I just say, all right, cool, I'm gonna go charm 428 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: Leard and I'm gonna go hang out with Kevins. Like 429 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: I don't break it down, like how how the average 430 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: person break it down? So when I did my studies, 431 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: I was just like, yo, the internet is free, I 432 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: can tweet. The thing about me is I'm not a ranterer. 433 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: But you are up on the internet early, like I 434 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: think back on the North talk about it. Come on, 435 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: come on, keep going, keep going www. So that's how 436 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: you know his notes is great? You know, I mean 437 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: you were talking about that. Yes, Um, I was fascinated 438 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: by the internet early. Um, because I realized that again 439 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: I was on penalty records A twelve Uh steil Levin 440 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: still doing it, still cheat but he's still still doing it, 441 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: still doing that's my brother. Um. But I started to 442 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: realize that when I was on Trinality was only twelve 443 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: workers and I went platinum. But when I went to 444 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: death Jab, there was three hundred, what three thousand workers? 445 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: And I would remember Shanta Bacon would book me and 446 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: then Mike Kaiser will book me for the same exact 447 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: um a day, but in separate states, and I would 448 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: realize I would be like, you know what, that's what's 449 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: the problem with the majors is everybody thinks they're they 450 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: are major. Everybody thinks that they're the big guy on campus, 451 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: and they don't communicate, like the marketing department wouldn't communicate 452 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: with the retail department, the retail department. And and the 453 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: thing is I wound up. It wound up hurting me 454 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: more than it actually gave to me. So I sat 455 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: back and I said, you know what, I don't need 456 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: a staff of three hundred. I might need a staff 457 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: of three or four or five. But if they love, 458 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: if they love, what's going on? Because if you lose 459 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: the love for this game, it's over. Like the money, 460 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: the money is not enough. I'm just telling you, like, 461 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: why do you think your built for that? You love 462 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: this game? You in it for so long, like when 463 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: you first think NOI coming to the game, you was wild, 464 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: like like it's funny to while this dudes are the 465 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: dudes of lunge. All you guys were terrorists like and 466 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: now you guys are like career artists, like twenty years 467 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: and you've made all these lifestyle changes, Like what do 468 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: you think it is to make certain artists like not 469 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: be not built for it, and some are in it 470 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: for the long haul. I think it's just growth. I think, um, 471 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: you grow, Like at the end of the day, if 472 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: you don't grow, you die. And that's for any any 473 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: species in life, you know what I mean? And like styles, styles, Styles. 474 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: Uh he he shocked the ship out of me because 475 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: I was I won't give this story. Um. The other day, 476 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, um, Troy IV had you know what he 477 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: said he said about and what happened was, I don't 478 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: know if you guys know, but what happened was he 479 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: had said something Capital Steves right. I had never met 480 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: Capital Steves in my life, but when I seen it, 481 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: I didn't take offense to it, but I just wasn't 482 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: good with it. And so what it was was when 483 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: I seen Styles jump out the roof, because Styles is 484 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: not that type of guy like, so when he jumped 485 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: out the roof, I had called Troy AB and I said, 486 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: Troy ab, Um, you know, as a friend, give Styles 487 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: pe that past. You know what I'm saying, because I 488 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: don't think Trey av knew that's um um okay. I 489 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: like to be the photographer, but so I don't think that. 490 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: Uh So when Styles start going in, you wanted him 491 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: to know where that's coming. I called Troy and I said, 492 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: you know, i'd respect just give Styles the past. And 493 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: he said to me like like like a younger person would. 494 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: He said, well did you call him? So I said, 495 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: you know what you got a point and I hung 496 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: up and I got them both on the phone, And 497 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: for me, that's my position now, like this is what 498 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: this mediating instead of I'm Slimmacon, I'm not Farcon, I'm slim. Yeah, listen, listen. 499 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: So and and you know what, they had a wonderful conversation. 500 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: But my point of bringing this up is Style says 501 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: sorry first, like Styles initiated the apology. Styles was like, yo, 502 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, Um, I didn't appreciate what you said. And 503 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: then you know, Troy says something. Style said I'm sorry immediately, 504 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: and that to me was like because he did it 505 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: publicly too, that's he did it and that's o G. 506 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: That's like Vin Staples. That's why I was sorry VN 507 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: Stables because as a o G, I shouldn't. You know, 508 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: UM went to the internet. You know what I mean. 509 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: But when you grow, it's it's just like, I'm gonna 510 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: give you another story. I got it on the moment's video. 511 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: But the day after Thanksgiving, we're gonna talk about that. 512 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: You want me alright, alright, cool, we're waiting. We're waiting. Well, 513 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: the day after Thanksgiving, I knew about it because be 514 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: Dot knew the phone call was gonna happen. Everything about it, 515 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: everything is off the listen Bleak Bleak. That's how you 516 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: know it's fucked up when when I get off the 517 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: phone call with Hove, I called Bleak. Yeah, And this 518 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: is how you know. That's how you know you're going 519 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: somewhere wrong when you say to a nigger, yo, who 520 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: was on your first album? Like that's like saying like 521 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: who gave you? Then lets in third grade? So I 522 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: told Bleak, I said, Yo, who was on your first album? 523 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: Bleak started dying because you know where I'm going. I'm like, 524 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: don't ever have Hove called me the wreck? Like, have 525 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: Carleen call out there? No more? Oh God, school school 526 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: back everything in the context the moment's video that's on 527 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: the Drunk Uncle Yes mix tape. It drops Friday. So 528 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: does the podcast Drink Chaps in conjunction with CBS. It's 529 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: all drunk Us Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So you want a 530 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: tax Stones podcast? Yes, And there was talked about an 531 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: incident allegedly happened me between him and jay Z and 532 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: a bottle. And you said that that happened. I said, 533 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: that's what I heard, That's what I said. Yeah, And 534 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: that's how I knew you hove ain't hear it because 535 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: I said, because all right, this is the funny shaw. 536 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: Let me just let me just break it all down, 537 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: all right. They have to Thanksgiving, right, I'm doing my 538 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: food show. So I'm eating a lot. Right, my kids 539 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: go outside. I'll give my kids the hoverboards. So my 540 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: kids ain't matting with me. Right. My kids is like, 541 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: fuck you Dad. I'm outside and the hover boys. So 542 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm home alone. I pick up a whole sweet potato pie. 543 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: My intentions was to eat two pieces. I ate the 544 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: whole fucking pot right. So I'm in my room feeling 545 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: guilty as hell. Right, But mind you, I see calls 546 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: coming in. They are known. So when they say unknown, 547 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's somebody from the jail, because you know 548 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: that's when people in jail calls doing the holidays. So 549 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: I pick up and the guy goes yo, So I 550 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: go yo. He go this Jay. So I just start laughing. 551 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right for arguments, say Jay who he 552 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: didn't even say home. He said how many days was 553 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: after the interview of text, This is about a week. 554 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: I would say like a week, maybe two, And so 555 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: he goes, you know, this is ja so I say, 556 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: for arguments, say j who So he said jay Z. 557 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: So this is funked up, But I said it. I said, 558 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: whoever this is, you need to work on your jay 559 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: z accent. I'm like this, that's what I expected. I 560 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: expected airy spirits. So I'm like, yo, He's like, Yo, 561 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: look I get it, he said, So listen, I'm gonna do. 562 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang up the phone and I'm gonna text 563 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: you for my number and you call back that number. 564 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: So I hung up. I wrote the blunt. Now I'm up. 565 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm up. I'm like because I'm like, it didn't 566 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: sound like Jay to me, though, you know what I mean. 567 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: So I'm up. I roll a blunt and he texts me. 568 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: So he said, I just wanted you to say, um uh, 569 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: the word that you're writing, it's a false story. So 570 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: I knew. I knew he didn't hear it from there 571 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: because I didn't spread it. I was asked this question 572 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: and I answered it. So I called back. I said yo, 573 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: and I said something and and then he said, if 574 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: you would have said, y'all got your number from Ta Ta, 575 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: or I got your number from Linnies, or I got 576 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: your number from Jay Brown. I would have knew this 577 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: wasn't whole because I'll speak to all them brothers, but 578 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: we don't have each other's numbers. He said bleak. So 579 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: I sweat start coming down my face immediately because I'm like, 580 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: bleak got my number? Like this is it? So? Like? 581 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: You know that one little stick of the order. Man, 582 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: it just gives out. Like as soon as he said bleak, 583 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, whole. I said, you can't if 584 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: this is really you, you can't care about this. This 585 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: is how you know he's the smoothest thing in the world. 586 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: He said, I don't care about it. I care about 587 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: you know. When the truth he got me, And that's 588 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: how I know I was the older person. This is 589 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: how I know I was an older person. Immediately when 590 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: I realized it was him, I said, how can I 591 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: fix it? Immediately? I have no quarrels. I don't have 592 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't get nothing else, saying your hold, I'm a 593 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: street dude, Like what the funk? Hope, I do not 594 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: want to make you angry, that's a fact. How long 595 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: the conversation last. It lasted about seven a half minutes. 596 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: Seven And he's smooth, He's really like the thing about 597 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: it is his nephews keep him abreast to everything that's 598 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: going on. And when we start talking, you know, I 599 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: immediately um, I said, I told him I heard it. 600 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: I told him where I heard it from. He got it, 601 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: he understood, and we moved on and we just we talked. 602 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: So he's so, I said, your hoop, I'm gonna go 603 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: do some someplace and corrected and he said, no, no, no, no, 604 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: because it's gonna look like I put the pressure on you. 605 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: If you be asked, then you handle that. And I said, 606 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: being asked putting it in the record. Decided to put 607 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: it in the record because it was a moment for me. 608 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: It really was it really your career, I mean not 609 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: in my career, because you know, l A l Ain't 610 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: no Nigger came out at the same time. So I 611 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: did me me holding a Canelli did a tremendous amount 612 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: of on the road together, you know what I mean. 613 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: Should I almost hold up with a couple of chicks 614 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: from the hood back in the day, I was. I 615 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: was kind of mad from him, like they went over there. 616 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: I was like, what he is doing him back today? 617 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: Was like no, no, no, he was hot, ain't gonna 618 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: lie I ain't gonna lie. He's always been. He's always 619 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: been my big homie. I can't lie to you like 620 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: it's you know, even during the Queen's Beef, if you 621 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: look at it and you actually look at the Queen's Drama, 622 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: I was in h Street is watching, I was on 623 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: all the Clue albums. Blueprints. He shot at me on 624 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: I'm blueprint too. So this is a person I definitely 625 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: didn't want to distance and then say he gave you 626 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: what the last one they told us that that's not 627 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: even that. You don't even clap for me, southing like 628 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: Rocket Feller for like a week a week And definitely 629 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: definitely you know, um, but you love to get. You 630 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: love the game obviously in the culture. So if you 631 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: have a difference with something, the fact that he took 632 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: the time to call you, that's what you appreciate, you know, 633 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know now I've really appreciated it because 634 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: and and it's what he said, even though if he 635 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: could have been gassing me, but I'm gonna take it. 636 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: He was like, I just want you to know the 637 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: truth because you're a real nigger to me, and to me, 638 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: he sold me right from that moment, I had to 639 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: correct that. I have to go and say, you know 640 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: what he told me? He told him and fact Joe 641 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: has Oh damn, I did I say? Now, they said, 642 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: exact story of what happened. Now, mind you, I was 643 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: on this tour with them, So what's the story. I 644 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: don't know that I don't know, but from listen, Hope 645 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: said it didn't happen. I'm entired to believe that it 646 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: didn't even happen. Fat Joe was in the most positive 647 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: place I ever seen him in life. He brings his 648 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: daughter to a wonderful thing. And all I wanna do 649 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: is continue. I have a responsibility in hip hop to 650 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: to uphold too. If you want to call me a 651 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: legend of O G and I don't tell, you know 652 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: if I say, if you say to me, yo, what's up? 653 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: O G? What's up? Legend, and I don't say no, 654 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm not immediately if I if I take it, then 655 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: I have a responsibility from there on out. So this 656 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: is where we're stuck at. Like I have a responsibility. 657 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: That's why I said, I correct because I want to 658 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,479 Speaker 1: be truthful. And I corrected because I want to be useful. 659 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: And then you know, Hope he knew a couple of 660 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: more things about my life, and it was just like 661 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: the brother pays attention to everything. I can't say tell 662 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: you he pays attention to me, but to tell you 663 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: that he pays attention to everything, because like he knew 664 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: too much about me and what I was doing, which 665 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: let me know that his and he said it was 666 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: my nephews. So we gotta, I gotta, I gotta give 667 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: his nephews a bottle or something. On the moment's record too, 668 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: you also talked about being a studio with forty Why 669 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: was that important? That was actually because Um, I had 670 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: the line was smoking blunts with Biggie Smalls was the 671 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: moment my g and I couldn't find no pictures of 672 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: me and Biggie Smalls, and I just just I just 673 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: I know the internet, the Internet would have tore me apart. 674 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: This Nike talking about he smoked blunts with big where's 675 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: the fucking picture? So I said, you know what I'll 676 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: say now, Little Season knows that, Little Kim knows that 677 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: Red Man knows that. But it's red Man. Little C's 678 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: gonna be in my comments? When when when it? When 679 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: I dropped, so um, I went back I took that out. 680 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: I also took because I said, um, when I had 681 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: my first kid, that was a moment for me. And 682 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: the director was like, you got six kids, are telling 683 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: me your one kid was the only So I changed 684 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: it to all my kids and um, but you know 685 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: why was over forty a moment for me because like 686 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: he actually just opened his doors to me, and like, um, 687 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: when we was an All Star weekend, like I could 688 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: have recorded fifteen records if I wanted to, but I 689 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: had two people who had just paid me for a video. 690 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: But I was in there, you know it was it 691 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: was laid out like I could have. I could have 692 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: had a left up with Drake Hook if I wanted 693 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: right then and there, like I could have just took 694 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: it because forty it was one of those people that 695 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: said I'm a fan of Nori and then showed he 696 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: was a fan of North other people. And I never 697 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: capitalized off of it, you know what I mean. A 698 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: lot of people say they are a fan of Nor 699 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: did you reach out to them, and it's like, uh, okay, 700 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: Like look, dude, I don't need nothing from you, Like 701 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: I'm good, Like he was giving you bet it was 702 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: I heard I heard views from the six like I 703 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: heard like like, just like I heard plot doesn't blow Moe, 704 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: like I heard reviews from the six. I heard um 705 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: he got to hear my stuff and he loved Bone Mix. 706 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: See the thing was the video where I put him 707 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: and he loved it. He was like, Yo, this is 708 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: that sometimes feeling. This is that such and such. And 709 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: when he said that, I was just like, you know what, 710 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: I'm not going to look at him as over your 711 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: forty I'm gonna look at him like a fan because 712 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: that's how we And if he says he loves that, 713 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: and this is like a sometimes moment. Why am I 714 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: keep chasing the homeboys that came to parties? And why 715 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: am I keep chasing the super dogs when that was 716 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: one part of my career. I had other parts. I 717 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: had to love my life. So I had the body 718 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: and the trunks. I had the melodic records that was pumping, 719 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: So why not reinvent that? So that's where moments it's funny. 720 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: He said that I was gonna ask you like you 721 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: especially also around this time Easter, you always have a project, 722 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: You're always putting music out, like obviously you love the culture, 723 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: but are you well you I was the one to 724 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: know was you're chasing that magic moment, that feeling of 725 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: having that big record, that big hit. You know, yeah, 726 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean I always chased the big record. It's like 727 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: a person who smokes crack right that they say, your 728 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: first time you get high, it's your best time you 729 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: get high. But every other time after you get high, 730 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: you're just chasing that first moment. And it's hard for 731 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: me not to want to hit record, Like it was 732 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: hard for me to go to the studio and hear 733 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: Fat Joe play all these records and like, damn, that's 734 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: not what I wanted this time. I wanted to make 735 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: a mixtape, Like I really, I didn't want to make 736 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: an album. I wanted to make a mixtape. And when 737 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: I heard Fat Joe and I seen his ora, like 738 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: he got a glow about him, like him and Remy 739 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: they gotta glow right now, Like that's that's it's it's 740 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: it's undeniable. And it was like, but that's not what 741 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: I did for this project. What I did for this 742 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: project was I wanted to do something that a record 743 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: label would say no. And I'm my own record label now, 744 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm my own pimp. I'm my own hole. You know 745 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So why not just live on the edge. 746 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: But you know, to answer your question, Elliott, you never 747 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: stopped trying to check chase that, like you know, like 748 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: I know, Buckets is a great record. I know my 749 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: joint where pnb Rock is a great record. But it 750 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: made me immediately like hearing Joe's stuff, and it made 751 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: me immediately want to go back in and say, let 752 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: me just do a full fledged album for summertime. But 753 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: I won't do it this summer because I want to, 754 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: I want to pay attention to it. And right now 755 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: I got the podcast where you just closed, uh my 756 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: Food Show congratraduation rose that right a little bit? Not 757 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: Charlotte Mayne, let me tell you something be I had 758 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: a chance, let me say this carefully. I had a 759 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: chance for Parf Daddy and for All to be my 760 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: executive producer on the Food Show. It was it was 761 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: ironic the way it happened because I had came into 762 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: counter which Charlotte Mane Charlottagne brought me to these people 763 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: at lions Gate. Lions Gate Google me, and there Google said, 764 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: Nori put for all on right. I don't know, I'm 765 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: just I'm just I'm not I don't know. I don't know, 766 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 1: but they because they came back to me and said, 767 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: if Norri can give us a Farrell drop, will green 768 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: light everything. Me. I'm from Queen's. I'm a hustler. If 769 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: you ask for one, I'm gonna give five because I 770 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: want you to come back. So I said, so I 771 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: hate Pharrell, and I said, for I don't ask for nothing. 772 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: I need a drop from you, Pharrell. It's Pharrell. NA 773 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: said for what, well, what are you doing? What count 774 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: of reality show? And he the way he was scrutinizing 775 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: me the way like at the very last, and I 776 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: was like, man, funk, you're dropped, like what I'm saying. 777 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: But by that time, in between that area, I had 778 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: got Swiss Beats, I got Danny Garcia, I got two chains. 779 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: I got everybody to say that there will be a 780 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: part of this show. So when they seen it, they 781 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: were blown away. They were like they expected one from Pharrell. 782 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: So we was at Timberland's restaurant. What's it called, hunt 783 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: Fish Club? Hunt Fish Club. Yeah, I didn't know that 784 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing a food show, you know, so I know. 785 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: So we had to meet in with them and they were. 786 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: So I never told him I got the Farrell drop, 787 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: but when I got it and I showed it to them, 788 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: they obviously I put Farrell first. Then after that they've 789 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: seen you know, Danny gotta see a Swiss beach to 790 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: chains uh, Sonny Anderson. I got everybody, like everybody that 791 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: I could call the next day. I didn't get a 792 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: Fatjoe or bust the rhymes because I wanted to save 793 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: them for the show. But immediately they was like, boom, 794 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 1: this is it so for RELM mind you. He questioned 795 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: me so much that when I then he finally seen 796 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: the drop, he said, you know why I questioned you, 797 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: And I said why He said, because I'm your executive producer, 798 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: which is dope. This is what I'm sorry. I know 799 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: you're white. This is what the white people wanted. This 800 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: is a fact. This is what the white people wanted. 801 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: They wanted him. So for him to say he's executive 802 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: but do so, I was like, damn, this is this 803 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: is an instant check. But then he said to me 804 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: instant check. So he said to me, but we're doing 805 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: on it will puff boom. So I said, damn, that's 806 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: a that's a me and Puff is great, but he's 807 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: a rapper. So we went to l A. We shot 808 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: the deal. Puffed got the word like he's good, puffis 809 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: puffis excellent. I was in San Francisco and how the 810 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: fund did? He knows? In San Francisco. He called me 811 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: at three o'clock in the morning. There was nobody around. 812 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: I knocked up my homeies doing like look at Buff. 813 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: Look he wants me, look like y'all. He like, you 814 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 1: can't do it with nobody else me and for a role, 815 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like great, and I'm like great. But then 816 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: I said no, because if I need for a role 817 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: on Monday, I'll get him on a Wednesday night. So 818 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: you got if I need Puff on Monday, I might 819 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: be able to get him Thursday morning. But Charlemagne was 820 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: so accessible. He was he was when I was telling them, 821 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: giving them notes like look the halal spot. I want 822 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: to do the I want to do this. I want 823 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: to show people the real New York City. I want 824 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: to do a left Frack barbecue. And I want to 825 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: feed all my children. I mean not my children, but 826 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: my children from Left Frack City. He got it, he 827 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: got it, and I meet it. So now we're in 828 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: we're in gold Molde. What network is it with? I 829 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: don't know what's what's the actual premise youre going to eat? Well, 830 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: if you ever watched Anthony Bordine on Man Versus Food 831 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: or whatever, um uh, even even Ashton Bronson's I seen 832 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 1: Ashon Bronson's Listen, let me just tell you this show 833 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: is fucking dope. The fact that he's on Viceland. He 834 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: could smoke weed, but you know, I think that's dope. 835 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, all my fans, 836 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: who hardcore fans, they know I smoke weed. I don't 837 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: have to be on camera smoking weed. All my fans 838 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: is hardcore fans. They know I'm a drunk uncle. I 839 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: don't have to be drunk on the show. They know 840 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,439 Speaker 1: I'm I smoked the rest. They know I'm a terrible guy. 841 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: You hate. I hate that I still smoke. But so 842 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't have to necessarily do what he's doing. But 843 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: I love what he's doing, Like I've seen it the 844 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: other day and he actually went to Queens and he 845 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: went to Atlanta. He's doing things a little different and 846 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: the action is also a chef. I ain't cooking ship 847 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: on my show. I'm the eater whichever way, I'm a 848 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: super eater. So um so that's that's that's My show 849 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: is just like the black version of Anthony Bordin. Like 850 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, my my my idols used to be like 851 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, run DMC, which they still are, l L 852 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: which he still is, um even NAS which he still is. Um. 853 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 1: But now my idols is Bill Moore. Like I fucking 854 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: love Bill Moore. He's a white guy. I love him. Um, 855 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Borden, he gets paid to fly, eat and drink. 856 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: What better job can you actually have the world. I'm already, man, 857 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: and I'm tired of bit Like I'm tired of it. 858 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: I can't. You're not tired of it yet? No, No, 859 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm not. You're You're right, You're right, I'm lying. I am. 860 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm tired of it to a certain extent. I'm tired 861 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: of it when I go walk in Costcos and you know, 862 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: people just just selfie me out. You know, I'm tired 863 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: of that part, you know Snapchat, they don't even ask. 864 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: I am tired of that part because, um, you know, 865 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: arguably will make officially twenty years. Seven will make twenty years. 866 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: And I can't. I can't continue to do this like, 867 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean retired already. I've been retired. I'm tired. I'm tired. Listen, 868 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: I've tired. Listen, I retired. I wish you could see 869 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: my schedule, my artinerary where first off, First off, I 870 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: was supposed to come here tomorrow, but Elliott said, demand 871 00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: you do ours first. Listen, like in the nicest way 872 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: you're doing us first. I said, no problem, I'm flying 873 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 1: in a day early. Appreciate no no, as we also 874 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 1: appreciate you shouting us out when Jesus take the will 875 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: remember course, man, Listen, man, I'm a I'm a big 876 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: fan of y'all. You know what I'm saying, what you 877 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: guys are doing, and you know what it's. It's it's 878 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: about how y'all sustained, how y'all maintain, and how you elevate. 879 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: Because if you're maintain and you just keep going, you're 880 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: just gonna run into a toll, you know what I'm saying. 881 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: But if you keep going, and I'm just a fan 882 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: of that. The way you approach making is now, is 883 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: it different from when you used to do? It was 884 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: before this natural ability and just whatever, like well, um, 885 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: I always have somebody to to answer to UH from 886 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: the Melvin Flinn album to UH An r e album 887 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,720 Speaker 1: War Report. We have to answer the trash the Reunion album. 888 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: And now I don't make as much money. You know, 889 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: I have million dollar contracts back then, but I have 890 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 1: a lot of more freedom. I don't know if I 891 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: want it, Like I would love to go back to 892 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: a major. I'm keeping it real. All these motherfucker's that 893 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: sitting around and say independent is the ship, they're lying 894 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: to you. Really it's horrible out there because you're doing 895 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: it yourself for Yeah, I gotta pay for everything, Like 896 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: I like flying first class. I'm not gonna stop. You 897 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I just flew out here 898 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,479 Speaker 1: three e you know what I mean? United of course, 899 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: goddamnit sponsored me or something. I'm at the w hotel. Um, 900 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: my ship is nineteen hunted. My wife hit me. It's like, 901 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: God damn it. What the type of room you got? 902 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: Like it? It's real ship. It's like because I'm so 903 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: used to it, like I've been spoiling by Leo cons 904 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: I've been spoiled by Kevin Lows and uh Neil Levine 905 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: and Tom Silverman, and now that I'm Leo Cones and 906 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Lows. It's fucking It takes a toll on you. 907 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: Like it's like I can't. I can't be everywhere like 908 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: how I was when it was with a major like 909 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: Mike Kaiser is one of the most phenomenal radio people 910 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: in the world. I remember Mike kiss to say to me, 911 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna be here, We're gonna be here, We're gonna 912 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: be here. Now, if I ever took control, I would 913 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: never be there. But when he was in control, it 914 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: was like I made it to all the spots. I 915 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: was there on time. I was the PDS loved me. 916 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: But then once I lost that source for me to 917 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: do that same thing and to have the impact that 918 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: he had, it's a lot of money that has to 919 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,919 Speaker 1: be it's a lot of work. It's a lot of money, 920 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: it's a lot of it's a it's a lot of 921 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: uh missed opportunities. So um, I can't stand independent like 922 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: I do it because like every third of the month, 923 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: I just you know, I get a nice it's a 924 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: nice thing that's there. But check Spotify. Spot let's big 925 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: them up. That's big titles. A lot of people don't 926 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: know Title is paying the best. It's just that they 927 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: don't have that many subscribers. But them title checks looking 928 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: nice talking about money. Because on the Drunk Uncle mixtape, 929 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: to make what's the make Them Pay record? That's my 930 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: standout one fight and I said this is my favorite. 931 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: That joint sounds like it's something that now you're talking about, 932 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: where'd you find sleeping You gotta Killer Mike on the record. 933 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: I just hang out a laundry match and launch. I 934 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: just gotta hang out the laundry matter. That's why I 935 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: find nature at all the time. Like whenever I can't 936 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: find nature, I just go like to the hall in 937 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge and the laundry match is the laundy matter 938 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: on the hill. I just sounded outdating right, it's not 939 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: a hell that's yeah. So um Sleepy Brown again, he's 940 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: a person that does didn't work with people that's outside 941 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: of outcast. I was in l a um uh smoking 942 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: and he heard the record and then I put on 943 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 1: killer Mike. Uh, Killer Mike. I'm so proud of this guy, 944 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,760 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders. Let's elect him for everybody who don't know. Um, 945 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: that's that should be hip hop's presidential uh campaign. That's 946 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,720 Speaker 1: that's that's that should be the guy that we elect. 947 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: We helped elect Obama. He's in Cuba right now, which 948 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 1: is fucking awesome, the first president in ninety years. You cuman, 949 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, I think we should 950 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: elect Bernie says. I'm very happy with Killer Mike is 951 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: me and him. He's his name is Santiago as well. 952 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: And we've been connected and um was the first time 953 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: you guys collabor Yeah, this is the first time we've 954 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: been on record labels together. But I'm like he at 955 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: first it looked like he was gonna disappear and then run. 956 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: The Jews just gave him. It's just like you have 957 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: to find something else. It's just like you. It's just 958 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: like you, guys. I'm not keep bigging you up because 959 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: you're here, but I'm bigging you up because it's the truth. 960 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: Like you know, just started from don Diva. Wow. You 961 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: know I went there. I went there, and then and 962 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: then and then you you first, and then all this. 963 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 1: But the thing about it is you have to you 964 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: have to grow, you have to do something different. If 965 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: you expect the same results, you're going to get the 966 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: same fucking you know, you're gonna get the same ship. 967 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I felt like George Bush 968 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: right now Jay Cole's record. I'm sorry, but but you 969 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 1: said something in the interview while back that you said 970 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: you did everything in your career except make someone else 971 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 1: to start. Is that still important to you? That's very 972 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: important to me. That's that's a point. Um um yeah, 973 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: that's very important to me. Like right now, Component is 974 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: my artist, like truthfully being sad, like if you ever 975 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 1: see Components, because I'm out it's I'm not trying to flaws. 976 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,839 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, but I can't claim him. 977 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,479 Speaker 1: I can't say that I made this hype man. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 978 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: we've seen him get this white man too much. Yeah. 979 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: We all called thank you giving him a cup. This 980 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: is Queens man. Did you give your book? I just 981 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: want to give him, get up, Elliot Wilson. Yeah, yeah, 982 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: this is my man from from Raver's Wood, Queens. You know, 983 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, he's very famous, very infamous out there. He 984 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 1: got a book and I just wanted to come help 985 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 1: being that we all queens. But we were talking, I'm sorry, 986 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about you. Maazing Mussolini. Yeah, I had 987 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,919 Speaker 1: amazing Mussolini uming Unit. I had Scarlett from the Unit. First, 988 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: I fell in love with her. That's what sucked up. Um, Like, 989 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't think she sucked up herme career. I think 990 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: me falling in love with her funked up her career. 991 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I never said that before. I'm gonna get 992 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: then out pre married. You know, we're very very very 993 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: bad man. They actually met her and my wife, my 994 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,720 Speaker 1: ex wife and my new wife hung out together recently, 995 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 1: like I mean with with me there. It was very uncomfortable. 996 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: It was very uncomfortable. No, no, no, she's not my wife. 997 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, yeah, this is my second marriage. Man, 998 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: actually about the first one, because I was because this 999 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: is before the pre internet, pre internet you could get 1000 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: away with pre internet. You can't get away with nothing now. 1001 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: But what period of career did you get married? The 1002 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: first time? Was a star already, This is might be 1003 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: after Melvin Flint, this is after Melvioun Flint getting into 1004 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 1: the Reunion album and um, yeah, and that's she's my 1005 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: best friend now, you know what I mean. And so 1006 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 1: she came out to see the kids because the kids 1007 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: living me in Miami, and it was it was uncomfortable. 1008 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: But you know, was that the first time that the 1009 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: first time re interacted was the Miguel Codo fight Mayweather fight, right, 1010 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 1: and I had just dropped like a year ago. Prior 1011 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: to that. I was like, I knew them dudes that 1012 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: Rock Live was lazy and O g One was mad 1013 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: at me. So O g One was like, you tell 1014 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: him no, me to come upstairs, and I was like, 1015 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to Like, I was like, no, no, no, 1016 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: because I wanted to see him one on one on one. 1017 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: And my ex wife walks wife by me, right, but 1018 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm standing here with my new wife, so I was like, 1019 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,919 Speaker 1: oh ship. She looked, she said, why do you ain't 1020 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: telling me he was in New York? And then my 1021 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: wife just swaps up because she doesn't know who this 1022 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: woman is. And I said ex wife, me, my new wife, 1023 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: new wife and my ex wife, and it broke the 1024 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 1: ice right there. They both just fell out. She worked 1025 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: up at the label. No no, no no, And since 1026 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: then we've just been cool, like I don't have baby 1027 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: mama drama. I don't have I've got six children. Me 1028 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: and Pap is running neck and neck. He just got 1029 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: a lot more money to me. But yeah, man, I 1030 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: don't have I don't have this drama. I like, I like, 1031 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: I like to be who I am and I think that, 1032 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: um now uh, hip hop has accepted me for who 1033 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: I am. Like my brother Freeze just told me. He said, 1034 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, people won't be shocked if you show up 1035 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 1: in camouflage socks and you know, purple suspenders because it's 1036 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 1: just Nori. It's like Norri's not he's not he's he's 1037 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 1: He's unpredictable, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I'm 1038 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 1: giving your couple. I don't know if you have a 1039 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: drink of CBS Studios, but it's a goddamn celebration. Each 1040 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: drink chance the podcast Drunk This is a drink Chance 1041 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 1: now that no longer rad Off podcast. But thank you 1042 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: all for having me. I think you're having me many questions. 1043 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the same guy I had on 1044 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: my wall growing up as a poster. This is kind 1045 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: of crazy. You know. You the reason why I didn't 1046 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 1: do a couple of therapy. Do you know that? Really 1047 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 1: we didn't. I didn't want to talk about No, we 1048 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: can talk about Um, I got it. I got a 1049 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,879 Speaker 1: couple of therapy. Offer me a hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, 1050 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,879 Speaker 1: you might have turned that. I didn't know that. It's 1051 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 1: the way he said it was. It was the way 1052 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 1: he said it. I hit him because I know he 1053 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: didn't know how much it was. I didn't tell you 1054 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: that would see me bringing us here. Goddamn. But um yeah, 1055 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: I mean, and my wife was having h m hmm. 1056 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: Now do I call it like we were? It wasn't 1057 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: on the same page. So I was going to, um 1058 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: pay a therapist, right, So I'm going to pay a therapist, 1059 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: like let's have some marriage therapy and ship marriage therapy 1060 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,240 Speaker 1: and ship yeah, yeah, you know, and fucking couples therapy 1061 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,359 Speaker 1: calls me, they're like, yo, you know, we got such 1062 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 1: and such and I'm like, all right, so how much 1063 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: is this? So they try to lowball me. There was 1064 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: like seventy five stacks like uh like nah, I was like, laugh, 1065 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 1: there's like a hunted I was like, okay, now we're 1066 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: talking a little bit. We'll talk a little bit down. 1067 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: I was like, is that fifty fifty because I mean, 1068 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: obviously you're married, so you know, And I'm like, baby, 1069 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: you got you gotta set your own account. I told 1070 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: my wife listen, you gotta set up your own account now. 1071 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: So then it was one fifty and I called you 1072 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: and I called Sonny Anderson and I don't know, I 1073 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: don't remember when you all. Sonny Anderson said, but you'll 1074 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,280 Speaker 1: both hurt my fucking feelings. Yeah, both was like, you're legend. 1075 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah it was, I remember that. It was a text actually, 1076 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 1: so Nori said, would you feel I probably still other text? 1077 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: He was like, would you be disappointed or had ripped 1078 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,399 Speaker 1: that post off your walls if I did reality TV? 1079 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, are you alleged? Like what did 1080 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: you do it? Man? I think you said get your money? 1081 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 1: But you get your money? Was not sincere I know you? 1082 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: The beauty want is? I know you, and I study you, 1083 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 1: study how you get down. You don't want to stand, 1084 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 1: you know what? I didn't do it, so, um Joe 1085 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 1: Button's wind up doing it? Okay. He looked a little 1086 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: different on there because you know it's just X. But um, 1087 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 1: I felt like Trat had did a good job. I mean, 1088 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 1: I still got a great report with the people over there. 1089 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 1: But when I do it now, I don't know. Yes, 1090 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 1: I don't say Remy and Pap have made it better 1091 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 1: but hip. No. No, but just that their presence at 1092 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 1: least has made it better. He put he put, he 1093 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: put pressure on a lot. You're a married guy. You 1094 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: are married. You took a little long. I don't know 1095 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: where you're going with this. We're Mary. You got your 1096 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: ring on. I looked at my ring right here, because 1097 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, I've been in love years. I man, yeah, man, 1098 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm going on end being together with her. But I'm 1099 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 1: like four or five years married, and um, you can 1100 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: is a better husband and us. No, I can't say. 1101 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 1: He just he knew how to put he would have 1102 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: worked that camera. He was working that camera boy, But 1103 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 1: um yeah, he made me want to step my game up, man, 1104 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: want to love my wife more? Like like damn, like 1105 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: he what he was doing. I was like, damn. But 1106 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: I think that presence has made reality a little less nasty. 1107 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: It's not as bad of a beck on my heels. 1108 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: Love and hip hop is on my heels. And when 1109 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: I used to be like no, I'm like consider taking meeting. 1110 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: That's how I keep hitting us. I don't know, that's 1111 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: what I keep doing with the love and hip hop. 1112 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: But you know, again, for me, Mona Scott raised me. 1113 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 1: You know, what I'm saying, uh Mahdi, all of them, 1114 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: they all my people, and and and before when I 1115 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: was offered to do love and hip hop, I felt 1116 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: like from the beginning I was gonna be fake because 1117 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: they was asking me to move to l A or 1118 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: moved to New York. And I'm a New York person. 1119 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't have the front like I live in New York. 1120 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't live in New York like you know, you 1121 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 1: make the Miami move before how followed him? After I 1122 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: followed him? Um, and they were the big guys to 1123 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 1: make the big move to Miami. He was the first one. 1124 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: And in fact, when I came out there, and you know, 1125 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: the astortion boys come around, you know, you know the 1126 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: astorition boys come around, they'd be like, yo, you need 1127 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: you need any protection, and you need any And then 1128 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: they see me with my boy fan and they see 1129 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: me with my boyfad Joe and the boys leaving. You're good. 1130 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: You're good, You're good, like you know what I mean. 1131 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: But because Miami is a real place, like do not 1132 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: get it twisted with South Beach. You know, there is 1133 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: a place across the bridge that I'll tell you a story. 1134 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 1: I was in overtown one night and my fucking tire 1135 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: buss boom. Right, I don't drive, so my homie pulled 1136 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: over up on him and it wasn't over town. It 1137 00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: was parking beans poking beings brought right, So my tired 1138 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: bus boom. So we see ellen s want strops. You 1139 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 1: know the ship that you did, fix your ship, So 1140 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 1: we let's go get in there. I wrote a blunt 1141 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: I just hear the police right there, so I'm looking 1142 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 1: to think it ain't move. So I'm like, yo that 1143 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm being nosy. I won't go over to the police. 1144 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,439 Speaker 1: I said, Yo, you don't hear that ship. He said, 1145 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 1: that's another town. Yo. Snapchat was popping. I was a 1146 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: snapchat that then. But now, let you know, because Miami's 1147 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 1: a real place, a lot of people. No, no, no, no, 1148 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: no no. But you you have a good relationship with me. 1149 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean you did super Thug out there right, Actually 1150 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 1: the video you're talking about super Doc, didn't you record 1151 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: it out there? No? Yeah? I like your I like 1152 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: your style. I wrote it out I wrote it out there. 1153 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 1: I like I like you. I was going with that 1154 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: was like your chemistry with Farrell Because everyone talks about 1155 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: super thug but you know nothing and Grimy headbuster, why 1156 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 1: do you for real work so well together? I think 1157 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 1: it's were the zac opposites, like, um, I've never many 1158 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: times we've been in the studio, I have never ordered 1159 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: the same food places him so after super thing, like 1160 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 1: it's something that simple guy. But like with those records 1161 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: when y'all in the studio together, like Grimy, Yeah yeah, Grimey, 1162 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 1: I tell you a funny story about Griming Chris Lity 1163 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: rest in peace, Chris Lidy. We rerecording Grimy and Chris 1164 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Litty had Brandy in the studio. He had ray J 1165 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: in the studio and I forget who else? Right, so, um, 1166 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, but don't you don't post none of this. 1167 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 1: Let them post it first though. You you go, you 1168 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: gotta sail. That's good. I'm so um so all right cool. 1169 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: So do people come in the studio. I forget who else? 1170 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: It was Brandy, ray J and and somebody else, and 1171 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm in there and I'm calling Grimy and the people 1172 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 1: come in there and say everybody gotta leave the studio. 1173 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,080 Speaker 1: So Chris Lidy is like why, it's like because we 1174 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: gotta start coming through the studio. Come on, man, I'm professional. 1175 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: So they said our podcasts, fat, you don't want to 1176 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 1: see you. We got donkeys walking through it, like I'm 1177 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: trying to be professional. So um so Chris, Lady's like, 1178 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 1: why why the fun and they're like, well, Janet Jackson 1179 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: won't walk through the studio unless everybody's out the studio 1180 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: because he has another room. She had had the room 1181 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: behind us. So Chris, fuck that fuck Janet Jackson. And 1182 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there like I had no I had 1183 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 1: to like the puss face on because I'm like, and 1184 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 1: he goes right Mari, and I'm like, that's Penny, Penny, Chris, 1185 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: let's get all the asks up and walk out. Chris, 1186 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: fuck Penny. I couldn't agree with him. Man, I was like, man, 1187 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 1: that's Penny. And I don't remember if Chris Evert walked out. 1188 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: I definitely was it. Everybody that Chriss the Carters is 1189 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 1: that motherfucker paying more money than me? And they didn't 1190 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: say no. The guy's favorite that was four Depth Tunes 1191 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: records on this. Yeah, I think I od on that. 1192 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's great kidding me no, um oh no, 1193 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: what's my most played record, my most played video and 1194 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: my most played record ever. No, I'm saying that wrong. 1195 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: My most played video, most played video that was Hype 1196 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Williams eight hundred and fifty thou dollars. I don't know 1197 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: if you know the story. Um he wins. This is 1198 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: from the beginning. It was money just to meet Hype Williams. 1199 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 1: So he calls me, goes yo. I'm like, everybody has 1200 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 1: a video from Hype Williams at this time, right besides me. 1201 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 1: So Hype calls me, So Queen's that's that's how we talk. 1202 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: Queen is similar to how we talk. He goes book 1203 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: book a book a room at the at the Trump 1204 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 1: ironically right, So I book a room with the Trump 1205 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: uh circle center, Uh right up there. You know what 1206 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: my own fifty if going towards uptown. So I book 1207 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 1: a room. It's like seventeen hunting right. So I'm thinking 1208 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 1: like he's gonna have like choreographers come. He comes, he comes, 1209 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 1: He goes, Nori, this is what we're gonna do. We're 1210 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna do a fight video. So I said, a fight video. Now, 1211 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: all my niggas, I got niggas from my hood, you know, 1212 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 1: left frag westside Queen's Bridge. Raibers Wood, they go to 1213 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 1: the fights, they do the things that Washington ship with 1214 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 1: the Minx and all that. That never was my style. 1215 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,439 Speaker 1: So he goes, do you know Roy Jones? And I'm like, nah, 1216 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 1: but I'm the biggest word Jones fan. He calls his assistant, 1217 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 1: this is Hype is the man. So Where Jones calls 1218 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: the We're in the room. Now it's just me and Hype. 1219 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: It's very awkward, but it's just me and him because 1220 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't know where this is going. I don't know 1221 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 1: where this is going, but I know it's not flagrant. 1222 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 1: But it's just it's just we're in a flagrant environment. 1223 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: We're in the room, you know what I'm saying. So, so, 1224 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: um Where Jones calls, He goes, Yo, what's up. I'm 1225 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 1: like Yo, I'm I'm you know what I mean. Huge 1226 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 1: fans like fuck, you know, I know who the funk 1227 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 1: you are. So we're like, yo, you know, we want 1228 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: to film you, um practice fighting for the video. This 1229 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 1: is how this how, this is how tough Roy Jones 1230 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: was at the time. Jones like, fuck a practice fight. 1231 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm fighting this Saturday. So me and Hype look at 1232 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 1: each other like He's like, you get sixty Saturday, and 1233 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I don't know. It's not my money, 1234 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 1: that's not my sixty grand. But I'm like, fuck it, 1235 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 1: let's do it. So so Roy's like this Saturday. So 1236 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: if you look at the video, the original video I had, 1237 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's in there, Jordan is a hater hip hop. 1238 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 1: He only likes hold. That's it. That's it. That's where 1239 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: it stops. It's holding. That's it. I've seen him shut 1240 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: red Man down. I've seen him shut Red Man and 1241 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 1: Christmas Party. We're all sitting there waiting to speak to 1242 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and I said, yo, read Man and method manager. 1243 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: He said, fuck rap, see the nigga say that. I 1244 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 1: was like, it's my face. I'm gonna sign here, man, 1245 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 1: somebody somebody now now quote me. But I believe it 1246 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: was right. Man. I meant man and I'm to the side. 1247 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 1: So I'm seeing like I could directly hear his voice. 1248 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 1: This wasn't He was like funck rap. I was like 1249 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 1: that ship hurt me, Christmas party hosting and ship like that. 1250 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: He only spoke hold, but he spoke the hole. He 1251 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 1: spoke the hope. That's that's without a doubt. So so 1252 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 1: anyway the podcast. No, I didn't really do it. I 1253 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 1: didn't really do so anyway. Um, so we filmed the 1254 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 1: video it took. It is the first time HBO ever 1255 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:55,479 Speaker 1: let cameras in their offices. That wasn't the cameras before. 1256 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 1: This is way before. So between hy Williams, Roy Jones 1257 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 1: and the sixty bands, they let us go in. But 1258 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 1: the only person that didn't clear the image was Michael Jordan's. Wow, 1259 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: that's the fact. But you look at if you really 1260 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 1: look at the first the old over the first one. 1261 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 1: We got Jordan's in there, you know what I'm saying, 1262 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 1: and he shut us down. I want to speak on 1263 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 1: another hater too, why Little Sean. I didn't want to 1264 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 1: do a song with you. Man, that's the one you 1265 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 1: were talking about the band from TV that was Big Sean. 1266 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 1: I was talking about Little Sean. I was talking about 1267 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Big Sean. I was just poking fun at him because 1268 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 1: I was just poking fun at him because, um, he 1269 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,919 Speaker 1: was like the first dude I ever met that didn't 1270 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 1: give it up. And this is on Jesus, take the 1271 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 1: way you talk about that. Yeah, he didn't give it up. 1272 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 1: When when I met him, I was like, yo, what's up, 1273 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 1: my dude? And I tell everybody I'm a fan of them. 1274 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm lying, you know what I'm saying. But it's like 1275 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 1: you're supposed to say that. He's supposed to say, yeah, 1276 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan, and I'm expecting you to say 1277 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 1: that back. You know what I'm saying. I have a 1278 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,240 Speaker 1: lot more years than you in there, And he had 1279 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 1: no knowledge of you. He was just like like you know, 1280 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 1: and I was just like you know, uh. And his 1281 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 1: people who was holding them down was like people that 1282 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 1: else chumps to me, you know what I'm saying. But 1283 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go there, so I just was 1284 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 1: like okay, and and and to me for me, listen, 1285 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 1: if you're not a fan of me, I'm a grown 1286 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: ass man dog. I made millions of dollars. I am happy, 1287 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm in a great space of my life. You could say, yeah, 1288 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm not feeling the record or I'm not feeling it 1289 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get your five. Because me and you 1290 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 1: don't musically connect doesn't mean we can't connect in another way. 1291 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 1: And I just felt like he did me wrong, like 1292 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 1: he just handled me wrong. He was just like yeah, yeah, yeah, 1293 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:41,320 Speaker 1: speak to my manager like dog. I was the hottest 1294 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 1: thing on moving two thousand and one. I was the 1295 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 1: hottest thing moving two thousand and two, two thousand and five, 1296 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,080 Speaker 1: I was the hottest thing moving. I know what speak 1297 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 1: to my manager means, like, I know what that means. 1298 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 1: I'd rather you be like, yo, I'm not feeling it all. 1299 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Let's hang out a couple of more times. I want 1300 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,440 Speaker 1: to get to know you because because that's who I am. Like, 1301 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,919 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not anybody that comes up in the game. 1302 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm not doing a record with anybody. You know what 1303 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I would like to know who you are. 1304 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 1: Once I know who you are, then I'm an I 1305 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 1: could co sign that or not, but he just handled 1306 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 1: it around. It also seems so rare because you have 1307 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 1: these great relationships, like how how are you able to 1308 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: maintain these? I call b dot when it's Christmas time? 1309 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: That's true, How is your Christmas going? I call a 1310 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,640 Speaker 1: Rob Marksman, I'll call u Elliott Wilson. I'll send you 1311 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 1: a d M. Thank you for finally giving me a number. 1312 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 1: I would have never asked you for it, because because 1313 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,639 Speaker 1: you're a big guy. Once the interview hold, you stayed 1314 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 1: there I said he's different, you stayed them and changed him, 1315 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 1: but I didn't, you know, But that's how it is. 1316 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a guy that actually will call you 1317 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 1: and I don't need nothing. But see some people will 1318 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,439 Speaker 1: call you and need something and need something. But see 1319 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,600 Speaker 1: that's not my style. Like that's the reason why you 1320 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 1: know me and Me and Charlemagne and Envy and and 1321 01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 1: and funk flex. Like I don't have to pound funk 1322 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,720 Speaker 1: flex down when I say your flex, I need you 1323 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 1: flexes easy, nor I got you and then and then 1324 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 1: my people will call me your flex played it flex played. 1325 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 1: It is because I'm a genuine person. I don't really 1326 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: know how to be fake. Don't get me wrong. I 1327 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 1: know how to be fake, but I don't know how 1328 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,560 Speaker 1: to be fake with somebody that already knows me. You 1329 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm saying, like if I meet you, 1330 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,719 Speaker 1: if I meet something like that, I meet the people 1331 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: from CBS, God bless you, somebody as fake as hell 1332 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 1: lets you, but not fake like fake fake, but like 1333 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be. I want them to feel comfortable with 1334 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 1: me because I eventually think they're gonna fire me at 1335 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,879 Speaker 1: some point. Because but we're doing on our podcasts. It's horrible. 1336 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 1: It's horrible you you tweeted recently till you're saying like 1337 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,560 Speaker 1: hip hop is such in a great place. If you're not, 1338 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, and if you're not saying that you're not 1339 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 1: getting money or you're just a hater, you're just to 1340 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,880 Speaker 1: hate that because, um, there's great moments that's happening in 1341 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,800 Speaker 1: the hip hop right now. Ahead, get busy. We gotta 1342 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: know more about its. I know Queen's ni came one 1343 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 1: Mike moviments downstairs. No no, no, Mike movies downstair. He 1344 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 1: got the mother low. Trust me. He hasn't hit me alcohol. Yeah, 1345 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 1: but you know what it is. I take offense that 1346 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:16,720 Speaker 1: when older dudes don't don't um respect what's going on now, 1347 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 1: they hate the youth. They hate what's going on is different, Listen, 1348 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 1: it's a totally different thing. Like, um, like if you 1349 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 1: say the young dog right, like I got mad at 1350 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 1: Sway my first time being mad at swaye, you ain't 1351 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: had an answer way right When Young Thug came on 1352 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 1: his his show and Young Thugs said, you know, because 1353 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm the first person that called myself slide, 1354 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,680 Speaker 1: Like what like, I'm not mad at Young Thug, I'm 1355 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,600 Speaker 1: mad at Swaye. And the reason being is, sway that 1356 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 1: was two thousand and one. I brunk slime to this game, 1357 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 1: and I shouldn't claim that I'm an O G quote 1358 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,600 Speaker 1: unquote whatever they want to call me. But as a journalist, 1359 01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 1: as a hip hop pillar, you should have checked him 1360 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,040 Speaker 1: at that very moment. So Swaye retracted this statement the 1361 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: next day and put it out. But I don't like that. 1362 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:13,719 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is we should we should school 1363 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,880 Speaker 1: to you. We should tell them. We should sit down 1364 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,759 Speaker 1: and say, yo, listen. If a person comes out and says, 1365 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 1: uh a chick by by the way, say I'm the 1366 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 1: Don Diva. They got to know that there was a 1367 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 1: Don Diva prior to you. You understand what I'm saying. 1368 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 1: I didn't invent the words slime. No, I didn't invent 1369 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 1: the word slime, but I made it hot in hip hop. 1370 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,639 Speaker 1: I didn't invent hang hang, but I made it hot 1371 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 1: in hip hop. I didn't invent jump off, I made 1372 01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 1: it hot in hip hop. I didn't invent hay to rade. 1373 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I invented all of these whatever. But what 1374 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 1: you don't trying to say I brung it to the 1375 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't invent the actual words head in 1376 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:54,760 Speaker 1: the whip. I can't speak about that no more. You 1377 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 1: brained down. At one time, I was brained I had 1378 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 1: I had one girl. I had one girl, all right. 1379 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,760 Speaker 1: She I don't know why. She just heard my music 1380 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,000 Speaker 1: and just she just sucked me off all the time. 1381 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,160 Speaker 1: And I was just like, I don't want no more. 1382 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,560 Speaker 1: This is this is during the bank bank this is 1383 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,479 Speaker 1: no this is this is this is. I was just like, 1384 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,639 Speaker 1: damn girl, like this is a rhyme. It's not really 1385 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:24,280 Speaker 1: the reality. Like I don't really just want heads. Can 1386 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,840 Speaker 1: I see how your bush look? Jesus? She was just 1387 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,640 Speaker 1: heading me. What was that like when you felt like 1388 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 1: when we first become like a star, Like, what's that feeling? 1389 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: Like warpark comes out to take you back? Too crazy? 1390 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 1: But I'm ready. At the time of Ward Report, everybody 1391 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:39,800 Speaker 1: thought at first, but who are these guys? And not 1392 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 1: mob ded these guys, blah blah, And then the record 1393 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 1: was so good it just started to turn people into believers. 1394 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,720 Speaker 1: And then when NOI put up and gave me a 1395 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,680 Speaker 1: five song sampling you Smell Me, it had Niggers on 1396 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 1: the Run eating It had five songs from them the debut, 1397 01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, this ship is fucking hot, this 1398 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,400 Speaker 1: is hot. And all of a sudden everyone became a 1399 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 1: noise fan, like I was hating on CNN as a fake. 1400 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 1: I love War Report. Then everybody started to become a 1401 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,880 Speaker 1: noise fan, and everybody just felt like part of building 1402 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 1: the movement. And then super Stuck came out and took 1403 01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 1: off and we were gone, Well how you remember it? 1404 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,080 Speaker 1: No Um, War Report came out and I was still 1405 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: selling crack and it was the saddest thing in the 1406 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:26,360 Speaker 1: world because Tragic Um and God bless him because if 1407 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't for Trash, they wouldn't be no me, you 1408 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But Tragic I don't think he 1409 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 1: wanted to ever be rich, Like does that make sense? 1410 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 1: Like I think he wanted to have money, but he 1411 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 1: didn't want to be rich because to him, rich means 1412 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 1: meant selling out, not authentic. Yeah. So I remember doing 1413 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 1: a record call you remember this joint, Don't let it 1414 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:56,800 Speaker 1: go to your head now do Doom Doom? Did it over? Well? 1415 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 1: That was on the War Report album Original Beat, and 1416 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,720 Speaker 1: he was on The Report album and you know what 1417 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,920 Speaker 1: record it was? Um, I Sun, I'm leaving on the 1418 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: next plane. I don't know w and yo. This is 1419 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,200 Speaker 1: why I always tell this to the poem. He sold 1420 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 1: me out, so the poem comes to the studio session. 1421 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 1: It was like, that's dope. He was like, that's dope. 1422 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,800 Speaker 1: You know, something like words because I had heard this 1423 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,639 Speaker 1: ship in my grandmother's house and I just asked easy LP. 1424 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,800 Speaker 1: I was like, you ever heard this record Doom Doom 1425 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 1: to Doom, and E's LP played. I forget who it was, 1426 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 1: but he played it. Don't let it go to you. 1427 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,160 Speaker 1: But I just I said, um, I'm leaving on the 1428 01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 1: next plane. Trash walks in the studio. It was like 1429 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:46,720 Speaker 1: he was prints at this time, smoke Yeah, purple ship. 1430 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 1: I don't know he had purple, but I'm just saying 1431 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,000 Speaker 1: in my mind right now he had purple. And he said, 1432 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 1: what did we puffed Daddy? And I was like what 1433 01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,439 Speaker 1: He's like, are we puffed daddy? If we sample, we 1434 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: sample like Havoc. We don't sample like Paul. You know, 1435 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 1: my heart, I ain't gonna lie to you. Still to 1436 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,639 Speaker 1: this day, right now, I think saying this, my heart 1437 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,200 Speaker 1: went to my shoes because I thought I did the 1438 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 1: right thing. And I looked at Capone and Pone was 1439 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:19,920 Speaker 1: like work. He just told me it was dope, so 1440 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 1: let me. I'm getting to where I'm taking it. So 1441 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,479 Speaker 1: I had I was being ready for for all, like 1442 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,759 Speaker 1: I was being ready for that next because I hated 1443 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,280 Speaker 1: the comparisons to marb Deep, not like because I hated 1444 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 1: they were heavy at the time. People don't realize, it's 1445 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,720 Speaker 1: just that. It's just that NAS was so so so 1446 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 1: uh huge and then mob and they expected us to 1447 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,840 Speaker 1: only do what they were doing and and just stay there. 1448 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 1: So um, after the war report dropped, I'm just sitting 1449 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,400 Speaker 1: around selling crack. Not because I wanted to, it's just 1450 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,879 Speaker 1: because of what everyone said. You got a hot album album, Connelly. 1451 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,839 Speaker 1: I gotta always give this props to Akaelly. He actually 1452 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 1: stood there and he seen me make a cell and 1453 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,560 Speaker 1: he had a fantastic. He pulled over the fantastic and 1454 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,800 Speaker 1: he was like, nope, come here, and I was like, 1455 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, I accepted all my collect cars while I 1456 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,080 Speaker 1: was in jail, so he could talk to me like that. 1457 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 1: He could be like, come here, and he was like, 1458 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,000 Speaker 1: what the funk I just seen you do? And I 1459 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,080 Speaker 1: was like doing what I did, and he just said 1460 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,560 Speaker 1: look and every five cars that drove by, I was 1461 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 1: playing the War Report. But me, I still didn't know 1462 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: how to make that make money poem and Tras relationship 1463 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 1: was like this. Me and Tras relationship was like this 1464 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:36,840 Speaker 1: when he went away, So I didn't know how to 1465 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,559 Speaker 1: call Trash and ask for royalties. I didn't know how 1466 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,600 Speaker 1: to call nil Avin and ask for royalties. So I 1467 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,720 Speaker 1: just kept pumping. What happened was and I gotta give 1468 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,640 Speaker 1: it to a Jungle Jungle. I gave Jungle bullets or 1469 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:54,200 Speaker 1: Jungle gave me bullets or something, and we we connected, 1470 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 1: and Jungle was just like damn, like you're a real nigga. 1471 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,439 Speaker 1: And he was like, um, you know, gonna fly you 1472 01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,360 Speaker 1: out to Miami to work on this firm album. This 1473 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:07,000 Speaker 1: is before they announced it, this is before anything, right, 1474 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, cool the thin use 1475 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:16,200 Speaker 1: they were calling me back. I was so gashed. And 1476 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,720 Speaker 1: then like this was no Instagram back then, but I've 1477 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,479 Speaker 1: seen pictures of them in Miami and I was just like, oh, 1478 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 1: ship right, And you know, we didn't have a relationship. 1479 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,240 Speaker 1: I could call him and complain. I said, you know 1480 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 1: what happened to me the shot. So two weeks later, 1481 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 1: Jungle called me. It was like, you thought I forgot 1482 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:42,960 Speaker 1: about you, right, And I was like yeah, And he 1483 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 1: flew me out to l A. They flew me out 1484 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,280 Speaker 1: to l A. And they never told me nothing about 1485 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,160 Speaker 1: Dr Dre. They never told me nothing about track masters. 1486 01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 1: They just said, if you're flying out there and we're 1487 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,160 Speaker 1: gonna do this song, we're gonna do these records. So 1488 01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 1: I walked out there and when I came in the 1489 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 1: studio it was Dr Trey and he was like the engineer, 1490 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,639 Speaker 1: like keeping a hunting with you. It's like track masters 1491 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,600 Speaker 1: doing the beats. But Drey was like critiquing on and 1492 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 1: the first, the very first, this is how me and 1493 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,960 Speaker 1: trash Beat started. The very first record Drey played was 1494 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 1: like it was like, don't let it go to your head. Yeah, 1495 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 1: you know what these niggas just told me. My ship 1496 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 1: is track So I went in and I said, y'all 1497 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,880 Speaker 1: got something for that. He said, let me hear it 1498 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,519 Speaker 1: before you lay it, and I said, I'm leaving man. 1499 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:40,040 Speaker 1: And then I said, I said, he was like that 1500 01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,599 Speaker 1: first right now. So if you look, if you listen 1501 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,120 Speaker 1: to I'm leaving. The original chorus was to to not 1502 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 1: that beat, but it was a beat that similar to 1503 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,800 Speaker 1: like that, and then he switched it because when I 1504 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 1: came in, it was so much aggression because I wanted 1505 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,280 Speaker 1: to prove Trash wrong, Like that's all I wanted to 1506 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,400 Speaker 1: do was prove it so and I had no idea 1507 01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,960 Speaker 1: it was gonna be a hit. Wow. So then you know, 1508 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,840 Speaker 1: just like he took CNN ship and gave it away, 1509 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 1: and it was just like I let Tragh always tell 1510 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,639 Speaker 1: the story. I never actually addressed it. What's in the highway? 1511 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 1: How did you didn't go to Tommy Boy? Did they 1512 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 1: already know? Did they have those five songs already? Like? No, no, no, Um. 1513 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 1: What happened was, um, I'm leaving hands down set off 1514 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,200 Speaker 1: my solo career because people people left me. They was like, well, 1515 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna wait to Capone come home like him and 1516 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:32,920 Speaker 1: the group is dead, you know what I mean? And 1517 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 1: um Capone, I mean excuse me. Uh. The record came out. 1518 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,519 Speaker 1: And when the record came out, God bless her. Dad 1519 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 1: pun called me and was like, yo, I want you 1520 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,920 Speaker 1: to do um this this this record for me came up. 1521 01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,679 Speaker 1: So I was like, cause like guess the president before 1522 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,679 Speaker 1: I forget it what guest appearances was before? And then 1523 01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 1: Penalty had gave me five thousand dollars from my first 1524 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 1: record deal nn warri Port. I only made five thousand 1525 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 1: dollars to this day over the warri Port. That's crazy. 1526 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 1: So when you did like body the trunk, was that 1527 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,600 Speaker 1: because they forgot about you for the firm ship? Was 1528 01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 1: that like a favor? No, no, no, I'm gonna tell 1529 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,479 Speaker 1: you what it was. Um Nas was on music make 1530 01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:25,720 Speaker 1: the thugs calm down. NA, Let's to be honest. Na. 1531 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,680 Speaker 1: Nas didn't want to rhyme because it was me a 1532 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 1: money bags r p e. Money bags. Money bags have 1533 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 1: broke Nas to my studio and um we had did 1534 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 1: a record called I Always Love Na Singing. So I 1535 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,760 Speaker 1: asked them, yo, because you sing this music. Man, he 1536 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,640 Speaker 1: was supposed to rhyme, So he rhymed and then I 1537 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,799 Speaker 1: rhymed and the money bags laid his verse and Trash 1538 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,599 Speaker 1: was actually right because he came back in and said, Yo, 1539 01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,120 Speaker 1: we gotta take the money bags off because the money 1540 01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,840 Speaker 1: bags he was a gangster. He wasn't a rapper, but 1541 01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 1: he did rap on the record. So Nas, who was 1542 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 1: his man, at the time, he kind of took it personal. 1543 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,160 Speaker 1: He was like, nah, I clear it if bags is 1544 01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,160 Speaker 1: on the record, I'm not gonna clear it. If if 1545 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 1: this is the word we heard, trash has a different story. 1546 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,800 Speaker 1: Trash has a different story. He said something else, but 1547 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,840 Speaker 1: this is the word I heard. So now nas is 1548 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:25,800 Speaker 1: not on the wordpor the album, and now we're just 1549 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,479 Speaker 1: out there, like you know. And I guess that was 1550 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 1: his way of repaying me, was putting me on the 1551 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,840 Speaker 1: Firm album. And then when he put it on the 1552 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,240 Speaker 1: Firm album, I remember like Fox, he's my sister now, 1553 01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,960 Speaker 1: but she was like, who fund is that nigga firm? Firm? 1554 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 1: And they threw half a meal on the album. I 1555 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,040 Speaker 1: was the only one like I flew out and I was, 1556 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,519 Speaker 1: you know, I was real quiet at the time. I 1557 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 1: was just like yo boom. And then they gave me 1558 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,759 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand, and I didn't know I sold my publishing 1559 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,360 Speaker 1: to them at that point, neither I saw my publishing 1560 01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 1: twice and one year I sold my publishing was sold 1561 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,120 Speaker 1: from the Worriport for five thousand, and then I sold 1562 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 1: I have no rights to the Firm album, uh, fifteen thousand. 1563 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,680 Speaker 1: But I learned my lesson. Then I did puns and 1564 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:15,880 Speaker 1: then after leaving, and then you know, Neil Levine he 1565 01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,960 Speaker 1: stepped up and was like, yo, I don't want you 1566 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,519 Speaker 1: to leave. You know what I'm saying because technically I'm 1567 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,120 Speaker 1: still signed as component Noriega, but they had to make 1568 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,559 Speaker 1: a whole different deal. Penalty. Tommy boybator, well, well, well, Tommy, 1569 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 1: we're always owned. Penalty. It was like a penalty, was 1570 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,720 Speaker 1: like a subsidiary. What it was, you know, I don't 1571 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,439 Speaker 1: know the word, but but it was like a yeah, 1572 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 1: it was that so um um. So they stepped up 1573 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 1: and Neil only offered me about five hundred thousand, I believe, 1574 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,840 Speaker 1: and Tommy Boy came with the other three fifty and 1575 01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 1: I got my first deals for five thousand, My next 1576 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,439 Speaker 1: deals for eight hundred and fifty thousands. Go ahead. Makes 1577 01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:57,840 Speaker 1: a noise to me. So what was that process putting 1578 01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,719 Speaker 1: that together? That you have song of that deals already 1579 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,880 Speaker 1: in my like not your first solo record, like what's 1580 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 1: your Well, well, um, I went to Miami. That was 1581 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,840 Speaker 1: the funny ship because I was wanted to go to 1582 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,679 Speaker 1: Miami so bad. When they told me for the firm 1583 01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,840 Speaker 1: that that Miami star look, I mean, I went to 1584 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,880 Speaker 1: MYA and I bumped into my boy dj E f 1585 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:20,120 Speaker 1: N Day was in the studio with us, and it 1586 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,759 Speaker 1: was it was, it was, Um. It was the realist 1587 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,120 Speaker 1: moment of my life because had I failed, I wouldn't 1588 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,720 Speaker 1: have been able to blame nobody, you know what I'm saying. Um, 1589 01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,640 Speaker 1: And then you know, uh, I wanted Trash to be 1590 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,639 Speaker 1: a part of it so bad, Like you know, I'm 1591 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,880 Speaker 1: gonna humble with myself right now because you know, like 1592 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:41,200 Speaker 1: earlier I was playing around, but I really wanted Trag 1593 01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,560 Speaker 1: to know that I was thankful for it. And I 1594 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,599 Speaker 1: remember calling Trag and saying, Yo, come funk with from 1595 01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,960 Speaker 1: funk with it, and he was just like good luck. 1596 01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,360 Speaker 1: He really didn't like his favorite was Campone. I don't 1597 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,360 Speaker 1: give a funk what he says to you. I don't 1598 01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,000 Speaker 1: given what you say. He said to this day, like 1599 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:00,920 Speaker 1: when they come around, I still get a little jealous 1600 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,719 Speaker 1: because tragic poem, like their relationship is like fucking Queensbridge niggas, 1601 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:09,560 Speaker 1: all right, you know what I'm saying, Like they know 1602 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,360 Speaker 1: I've always been the outsiderer. So UM, I really did 1603 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 1: want Trash to um to come but he didn't see 1604 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,000 Speaker 1: the vision. He didn't see that I was that I 1605 01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,280 Speaker 1: was ready to step outside. Like I didn't want to 1606 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,800 Speaker 1: be a hood dude. I didn't want to be just 1607 01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, just Nori can just rap about, you know, 1608 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 1: smacking bitches on their ass like I wanted to. I 1609 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,599 Speaker 1: wanted to. That's why Super Thug. That was the very 1610 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:37,120 Speaker 1: last record that was recorded on the n R E album. 1611 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,280 Speaker 1: And in fact, if you listen to super Thug real close, 1612 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 1: at the end, I say R E Nori stands for 1613 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,160 Speaker 1: Niggas on the Run Eating The remix it was actually 1614 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:51,240 Speaker 1: a remix in O R E because the album was 1615 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:55,320 Speaker 1: already closed. But um, like I said, I just wanted 1616 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,920 Speaker 1: so when I recorded that in R the album, I 1617 01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,560 Speaker 1: knew I had so much on me, you know what 1618 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I know I had so much pressure, you 1619 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I had Jungle around all the time. 1620 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,160 Speaker 1: I had Dar around GM all the time. I had 1621 01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,680 Speaker 1: my uncle Wise, I had Shan Dona, and I had 1622 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:14,559 Speaker 1: people that was just would tell me, you know, don't 1623 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,599 Speaker 1: do that and do this. And you know, Jungle he's 1624 01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,960 Speaker 1: been around NAS, he's been around involved Yea. He was. 1625 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,800 Speaker 1: He was the executive producer. Jungle was the dude that 1626 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,960 Speaker 1: when Animal Thug came to the studio, he owns the 1627 01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:34,000 Speaker 1: pluck you now, goddamn it makes a noise. He was 1628 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,600 Speaker 1: the chicken delivery guy and he came through and he 1629 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,240 Speaker 1: was like YO and me and Jungle was looking at 1630 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,519 Speaker 1: this Nike and I was like, put him in the booth. 1631 01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,280 Speaker 1: And we put him in the booth and it was 1632 01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 1: just as natural as that. It was not something to 1633 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: be planned. It wasn't something that he just walked in 1634 01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 1: and was like, I got chicken fingers And he was 1635 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,320 Speaker 1: like what say what you got again? Got chicken fingers? 1636 01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,400 Speaker 1: And he was like you got ten minutes and he 1637 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,120 Speaker 1: was like yeah, we put him in the booth and 1638 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,599 Speaker 1: we just if you listen to that skit that's Jungle. 1639 01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:07,759 Speaker 1: I'm not even there. I'm outside the skit dying because 1640 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,600 Speaker 1: he knew what to say to him, like you know 1641 01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,880 Speaker 1: and UM, that's real ship. So when did you feel 1642 01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:14,400 Speaker 1: that that album was going to deliver, that that it 1643 01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,080 Speaker 1: was going to be successful, Like when was the first 1644 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 1: memories where you felt like I just kept coming to 1645 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 1: my sessions, like when NAS like if you listen to um, 1646 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,439 Speaker 1: that's the lockout, that's Nas in the background, I'm not 1647 01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:31,479 Speaker 1: that's locker. Um uh ship huh No, I love my life. 1648 01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 1: He sung the chorus, but um, you do like to 1649 01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,080 Speaker 1: get him on the hooks. What's what's what's what's the joint? Right? 1650 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Got to call him sale? What the hell? Then Niggers 1651 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,679 Speaker 1: just shot that raild Well that part if you listen, 1652 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 1: that's Nas on the ad libs like Nas, he felt 1653 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,280 Speaker 1: my energy. Like it's like it's like right now, when 1654 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,120 Speaker 1: you see Kanye West and you see him hanging out 1655 01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:56,639 Speaker 1: with these dudes, it's because Kanye knows there's energy when 1656 01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,639 Speaker 1: when when when Traffs Scott got was talking to a window, 1657 01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,920 Speaker 1: Kanye is smart enough to say, look, young boy, come 1658 01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,840 Speaker 1: hang out me in the studio. Because it doesn't matter 1659 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,720 Speaker 1: whether Travis is writing this ship or whatever, that doesn't matter. 1660 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,240 Speaker 1: You know what matters is he's absorbing that energy. Sometimes 1661 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,240 Speaker 1: you can have energy and you kind of know when 1662 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,920 Speaker 1: somebody's in the zone. And he saw that with New Problem, 1663 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,280 Speaker 1: and I guess I realized that later, like because Na's 1664 01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,560 Speaker 1: had no business being in my sessions. Like what I 1665 01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,120 Speaker 1: mean when I'm saying he had no business is he 1666 01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,320 Speaker 1: had better things to do. And he came around and 1667 01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,840 Speaker 1: when we did I Love My Life, he was like, 1668 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 1: I got the hook for it, and I was like 1669 01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 1: word and he laid the hook and then you know, 1670 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,800 Speaker 1: we did Body in the Trunk. We stole that, by 1671 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,800 Speaker 1: the way, what you mean, Um? All right? Cool, cool, 1672 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,760 Speaker 1: this is dope, This is dope. All right? My man 1673 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,960 Speaker 1: shot pal black fawns. Right. I wanted to rhyme. I 1674 01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 1: don't know why. He's a gangster. I don't know why 1675 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,120 Speaker 1: gangsters want to rhyme. We gotta stop this, we gotta 1676 01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,400 Speaker 1: stop this. Write a book, goddamn it, the book, like 1677 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:05,800 Speaker 1: my man Freeze, please stop, please, please do a book. 1678 01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,639 Speaker 1: But um, Chapelle wanted to rhyme, but out of nowhere, 1679 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:11,680 Speaker 1: like he's he's like against it from my hood, and 1680 01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:15,040 Speaker 1: he just started rhyming. Right, So we pick up Jungle 1681 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,640 Speaker 1: and Jungle started rhyming too. So they're going back and 1682 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,400 Speaker 1: forth and they're like, you know, what's the Body in 1683 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:28,919 Speaker 1: the trunk. It's a body song body And it sounded horrible, 1684 01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,639 Speaker 1: but I called it. So I'm like in the trunk. 1685 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,800 Speaker 1: So I get to the studio and now just like yo, 1686 01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:36,920 Speaker 1: we got too many, you know, we got got triple threat. 1687 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:41,200 Speaker 1: This is when you know we had as we took 1688 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,120 Speaker 1: Nature's record, I give you to that story later. But 1689 01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,200 Speaker 1: he didn't rhyme fast enough. Me and As waited as 1690 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 1: soon as he left the studio was like, you any man, 1691 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,479 Speaker 1: let's call Booms that whole record. Nature came the next 1692 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,400 Speaker 1: day and was like, I think it's his foul virgos. 1693 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and then he laid his ship. 1694 01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,840 Speaker 1: But um so, me and As were in the studio 1695 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,680 Speaker 1: and this is this is like this, this is my 1696 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,400 Speaker 1: feature for him, because um you know, Sony had made 1697 01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,000 Speaker 1: it clear you get one Nas feature. That's it. That's 1698 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,320 Speaker 1: why you've never seen even the original you never seen feature. 1699 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,680 Speaker 1: And I Love my Life called Thomas later came and 1700 01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:18,439 Speaker 1: sung it, but um Nas wrote that hook. So we're 1701 01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 1: sitting down and I was like, we gotta do a 1702 01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 1: concept record. So I'm like word. So we're sitting there, 1703 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 1: it's like two or three hours passed by. I'm smoking 1704 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,600 Speaker 1: weed and I no, I just to always tell me 1705 01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:31,880 Speaker 1: you'll stop putting your cigarettes in my cup because I 1706 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,040 Speaker 1: don't know why it's to always put it cigarettes in 1707 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:35,840 Speaker 1: the cup. And he's like, goddamn it, you know what 1708 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean? He almost drink a cigarette, so alright, cool. 1709 01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,760 Speaker 1: It goes by. I go to the bathroom and these 1710 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 1: niggas are still out there. It's somebody in the trunk. 1711 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,840 Speaker 1: So I'm like, yo, yo, I'll go back and I'm 1712 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,840 Speaker 1: like yo, I'm looking at the sun and I'm like damn, 1713 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,920 Speaker 1: because I know this is stealing. I know it. I 1714 01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,360 Speaker 1: know it then, but I was like damn. So I 1715 01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,800 Speaker 1: went back to the bathroom again and they still out there. 1716 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,320 Speaker 1: So I came, I said, your son, these niggas is 1717 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,240 Speaker 1: out there playing with this ship. He's like what they're 1718 01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,360 Speaker 1: playing with? He said, it's a body in the trunk. 1719 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:16,400 Speaker 1: He's like, that ship is dope. I'm like, real close 1720 01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,200 Speaker 1: the door. We wrote that ship in like twenty minutes. 1721 01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:26,320 Speaker 1: Them niggas came in and was like foul and it 1722 01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,080 Speaker 1: was it was. It was really all for two people 1723 01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,200 Speaker 1: that's that don't rhyme. Though it wasn't like it was 1724 01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,960 Speaker 1: a Zy and Foxy Brown, then we would have been thieves. 1725 01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,320 Speaker 1: But this was two people who don't rhyme that was 1726 01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:42,120 Speaker 1: playing with a concept that actually was dope, and it fit. 1727 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,600 Speaker 1: It fitted so perfect. So then when they came in, 1728 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,160 Speaker 1: we had about a verse and a half maybe two 1729 01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,120 Speaker 1: verses done, and then they came in. They gave us 1730 01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,120 Speaker 1: all the input like no, no, no, no, put the 1731 01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:58,920 Speaker 1: seven train right here like they We had to, We 1732 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,599 Speaker 1: had to. We You mentioned Foxy. I know a rememorable 1733 01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,639 Speaker 1: session I did was you know, bang Bang? I heard 1734 01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,960 Speaker 1: her interview. You said, you know, Foxy went the bathroom locked, 1735 01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:09,920 Speaker 1: hers shipped in and she came in and did her 1736 01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:15,200 Speaker 1: did a thing. Where are those verses that didn't incredible cuts? 1737 01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:18,839 Speaker 1: Got it? Incredible cuts, so incredible cuts, got about twelve 1738 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:23,439 Speaker 1: Neptune records, like, um, he got so many sessions. I 1739 01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,160 Speaker 1: won't even I won't even ask him because you said 1740 01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:30,120 Speaker 1: those verses that she did hard were more disrespectful bang Bang. 1741 01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:34,880 Speaker 1: It was horrible. Um, I didn't understand because we just 1742 01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,920 Speaker 1: asked Foxy to get on the record, right. We didn't 1743 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,120 Speaker 1: know if she was trying to go direct to quiet storm, 1744 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,519 Speaker 1: Like I didn't think like that. Like now I think 1745 01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,920 Speaker 1: like that. Now I can say, you know, if I 1746 01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,240 Speaker 1: do a record with somebody who got beef with somebody, 1747 01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,400 Speaker 1: they're pretty much going to air it out with me. 1748 01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:52,720 Speaker 1: But I didn't know that then, So I said, I 1749 01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,840 Speaker 1: just said, your fox come to the studio and ship, 1750 01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,599 Speaker 1: and she's like what she put it together? She's like seeing, man, 1751 01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:02,519 Speaker 1: I know they don't believe dumb names. And if they don't, 1752 01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,720 Speaker 1: and I don't, shorty, they got the quiet storm out. 1753 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,920 Speaker 1: She can't. She had verses ready, like she just was there, 1754 01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,960 Speaker 1: like I've never seen a girl coming to the studio 1755 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:16,120 Speaker 1: with six verses. And then my brother, my brother, um, 1756 01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,240 Speaker 1: one of my one of my close friends, and name 1757 01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,519 Speaker 1: is six seven. But um, if you ever want to 1758 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,720 Speaker 1: be talked out of doing something negative, he's not the 1759 01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,439 Speaker 1: person to talk to, Like he's the ultimate gasser. So 1760 01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:30,160 Speaker 1: six seven is in this booth like good old good up, 1761 01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:31,840 Speaker 1: and we don't know what's going on. You know, the 1762 01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,479 Speaker 1: boof is is sound proof, so we outside. I just 1763 01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,040 Speaker 1: see him just going like this, and she's spitting him 1764 01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:38,960 Speaker 1: the verses and said, you know, he's a hood nigger, 1765 01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:43,880 Speaker 1: so he's enjoying every minute brown. So she goes and 1766 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,840 Speaker 1: she lays it, and I was just like, damn, like 1767 01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,000 Speaker 1: it was bad ship, Like it was ship like bigs 1768 01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,519 Speaker 1: moms might have said something about you know what I mean? 1769 01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:54,920 Speaker 1: So um, so was it you or someone that was 1770 01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,720 Speaker 1: like listen, that's o D. Let's just keep it there. 1771 01:32:57,960 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 1: I want to take the credit, but I don't remember. 1772 01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:05,080 Speaker 1: So that still was drama. Still, it was still Um, 1773 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:09,920 Speaker 1: it was still drama, and it definitely didn't solve anything 1774 01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,640 Speaker 1: because I thought that they would understand that this is 1775 01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:16,640 Speaker 1: the water down verse. You know what I'm saying. If 1776 01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,320 Speaker 1: the Internet was alive back then, I could listen, this 1777 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,600 Speaker 1: is the this is the least disrespectful I could have 1778 01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,880 Speaker 1: did that on Twitter. You feel bad when Little kid 1779 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,320 Speaker 1: ultimately went to jail for that? Absolutely? Um, I mean 1780 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,320 Speaker 1: I didn't feel bad when Little Kim went to jail 1781 01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,599 Speaker 1: because like I had anything to do with it, because 1782 01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:34,760 Speaker 1: if you um google or use your googles how they said, um, 1783 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:36,880 Speaker 1: my name is in the case at all, you know 1784 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,519 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I technically wasn't there, Like even when 1785 01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,960 Speaker 1: the FBI came to to get me, they was like, 1786 01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, so what happened afterwards and what I listen, 1787 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,479 Speaker 1: I wasn't there, Like I really wasn't. Like there's records 1788 01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,840 Speaker 1: of me saying that I was trapped that um the 1789 01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,720 Speaker 1: on the West Side Highway. Now let me just correct you, 1790 01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:58,760 Speaker 1: because um he said, was I mad? Um Kim didn't 1791 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:00,920 Speaker 1: go to jail because of this, you do. Little Kim 1792 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:05,080 Speaker 1: went to jail because she didn't say that she was 1793 01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,360 Speaker 1: she knew the rock. She didn't go to jail. Nobody. 1794 01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:12,879 Speaker 1: I feel like you just compassionate that something so ridiculous. 1795 01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,519 Speaker 1: I haven't seen Kim since then. I met Little Kim 1796 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,759 Speaker 1: in my life. This is a fact that's crazy, you know, everybody, 1797 01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,080 Speaker 1: I never met Little Kim. But Buster has a show, right, 1798 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:31,120 Speaker 1: so we're gonna perform. I go and perform. And after 1799 01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,880 Speaker 1: I perform, I sit right there. I turned around. Little 1800 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,880 Speaker 1: Kim's right there, and she gives me that look like, 1801 01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:40,160 Speaker 1: say hi to me, nigga, but I don't. I don't 1802 01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,040 Speaker 1: know if that lookers say hi to me, they go 1803 01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:46,320 Speaker 1: don't say hi to me. They get pretty much the same, right. 1804 01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:51,800 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm like, but but I respect Little 1805 01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:57,200 Speaker 1: Kim like. She has never hated on me. She's never said, 1806 01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, if Norwy's there, I'm not going to be there. 1807 01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,240 Speaker 1: To me, that's some people have done that. People have 1808 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,000 Speaker 1: done that, But to me, that's a g you know 1809 01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:06,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm saying. And it was crazy because 1810 01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:10,479 Speaker 1: when Little Kim's um she pulled up, I was outside 1811 01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:13,160 Speaker 1: smoking a cigarette so she pulled up. All her goons 1812 01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 1: had jumped out the truck. I'm ready for it. I'm sitting. Yeah, 1813 01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,360 Speaker 1: her goons was niggers. I was in spotted with it, 1814 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,080 Speaker 1: just like left frack. What like if you called me 1815 01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,000 Speaker 1: left frack, you was in jail with me. You know what. 1816 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying this so he can look. I'm like, yo, what. 1817 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,559 Speaker 1: He gives a pony of five and I say the poem. 1818 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,680 Speaker 1: I said, you don't even know where you know them from. 1819 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,120 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I don't know what I know. I'm like, yeah, 1820 01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:38,599 Speaker 1: we was in with them. Negatone was like, damn, that's 1821 01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,840 Speaker 1: little Kim goones. So her goons we actually knew. But 1822 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,880 Speaker 1: I respected the fact that she still stood right there. 1823 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,519 Speaker 1: She performed, and she came and sat right back next 1824 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:52,120 Speaker 1: to us, letting us know like he ain't pussy. My 1825 01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,439 Speaker 1: favorite bang Bang moment is when you guys performing at 1826 01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:57,840 Speaker 1: the tunnel and then copone jumps into the crowd. That 1827 01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,000 Speaker 1: video was on YouTube. It's class and they'll perform to 1828 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,800 Speaker 1: the record. It's a fact. I'm like, yo, fact, it's 1829 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,120 Speaker 1: like the perfect soundtrack to what is going right. I mean, 1830 01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:10,240 Speaker 1: we was taught that though, you know, you came from violator, 1831 01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:13,920 Speaker 1: you know Acnelly. Nothing stops the performance, but it was 1832 01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,040 Speaker 1: so perfect. Nothing stops the performance. I would get was 1833 01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:20,200 Speaker 1: that time when somebody threw so someone just came home, 1834 01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,519 Speaker 1: someone threw a drink on him. He has a it's 1835 01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:28,160 Speaker 1: right with it beat up, jumped in the crowd and 1836 01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:32,200 Speaker 1: he's just like, we're gonna dog this ship. I was like, yeah, 1837 01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,080 Speaker 1: this is incredible, this is a fact. And we did 1838 01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,719 Speaker 1: that at summer jam to um after the actual shooting, 1839 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,519 Speaker 1: and we still performed that with Little Kim in the building. 1840 01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:44,320 Speaker 1: And I know I don't have no beat with Little 1841 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,120 Speaker 1: Kim or any or anything. Um. I never did. Actually, 1842 01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,840 Speaker 1: like I wasn't there, Like it's it's real. Ship Back 1843 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,040 Speaker 1: to nas obviously you guys had the falling out. Was 1844 01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,040 Speaker 1: it just to step your rap game up? Ship? When 1845 01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,639 Speaker 1: he said that, Man, how you know how much I'm 1846 01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:00,559 Speaker 1: still hurt when you tell him bring it up right now? 1847 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:05,840 Speaker 1: Get hurt. I get hurt because he had myself tell 1848 01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:08,599 Speaker 1: you something. Man. I ate in his crib. Man at 1849 01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:10,600 Speaker 1: that time, I was eating his crib. I remember in 1850 01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,360 Speaker 1: Long Island he had the white buttery couches. I remember 1851 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,360 Speaker 1: I just stood there because I didn't want a dirty nothing, 1852 01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,599 Speaker 1: because I'm a natural dirt bomb like I'm the Wingworm kid. 1853 01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm the guy that the dirt bomb kid. So I 1854 01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,680 Speaker 1: was in his crib like you know, and and I 1855 01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:26,400 Speaker 1: don't even know how much just bother Jungle was a 1856 01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,800 Speaker 1: part of it. Yeah, So that's why it hurt me, 1857 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:32,080 Speaker 1: because honestly, if you felt and you know what it was, 1858 01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,719 Speaker 1: well he didn't know. And you gotta ask Mike Kaiser 1859 01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,439 Speaker 1: and you can ask actually Foxy Brown about this. This 1860 01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:40,360 Speaker 1: was the day where he wanted to hang jay Z. 1861 01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:44,200 Speaker 1: Of course, right, he wanted to hang jay Z. And 1862 01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,559 Speaker 1: I didn't know about it. But when I got there, 1863 01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,519 Speaker 1: I see Mike Kaiser had people in play to pull 1864 01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:56,320 Speaker 1: the curtain, and I'm like, Kays, you're gonna let my 1865 01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,760 Speaker 1: man shine. You're gonna let him do whatever he's doing. 1866 01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't got nothing to do with 1867 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:05,599 Speaker 1: him and whole ship. But Hove went crazy last year, 1868 01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,960 Speaker 1: Ballerina and all this crazy ship. Now I don't want 1869 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,040 Speaker 1: to with hold all this crazy ship. You're gonna let 1870 01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:14,719 Speaker 1: my man go crazy. At the same time, this niggas 1871 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:20,719 Speaker 1: at the next station. Fuck Milly Cameron Norial of niggas 1872 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:25,599 Speaker 1: and I'm like, holy shit, and I'm it was mind 1873 01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:28,920 Speaker 1: blowing that I'm actually at one station holding him down. 1874 01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:31,679 Speaker 1: But mind you, I could see now that I'm older, 1875 01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,280 Speaker 1: I could see how he looked at it. He looked 1876 01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:38,080 Speaker 1: at it like Hove was death Jam. That's it, jay 1877 01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:41,400 Speaker 1: Z death Jam. Everybody else felt under once against him, 1878 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,720 Speaker 1: and he felt like now I can see it like 1879 01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:48,080 Speaker 1: back then, I couldn't against him. Everybody I was Deaf Jam. 1880 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,840 Speaker 1: And then he signed the Deaf Jam. After that, queens 1881 01:38:51,880 --> 01:39:00,760 Speaker 1: and queens made the whole column off that God damn 1882 01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:05,320 Speaker 1: great time. But and not only that, Um, if you 1883 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:09,920 Speaker 1: that album, which was God's favorite, God's favorite, the very 1884 01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:13,280 Speaker 1: first person that comes on the album, it's not so 1885 01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:15,479 Speaker 1: he had the album in advantage. You hit Jungle like 1886 01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:20,160 Speaker 1: what I never had. Jungle Jungle Jungle, Um, Jungle is 1887 01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:22,400 Speaker 1: a special type of guy. He never cut me off. 1888 01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,479 Speaker 1: Even when I was beating with nas, he never cut me. 1889 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,479 Speaker 1: He just knew we were both virgo stubborn people. You 1890 01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Even though I felt I felt 1891 01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:34,240 Speaker 1: like I was right, I felt well, I took it 1892 01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:40,080 Speaker 1: was wrong with whatever happened, No, no, no, whatever, whatever 1893 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:44,680 Speaker 1: happened was wrong, But um Jungle has never turned on 1894 01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:48,000 Speaker 1: me like he's He's always stood there by me. But 1895 01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:53,720 Speaker 1: he's he's actually like the impitome of money can't really 1896 01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:57,519 Speaker 1: change you like that nigga is still in Queensbridge like 1897 01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:02,800 Speaker 1: my nigger. This nigga got the opportunity to be anywhere, 1898 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,080 Speaker 1: like I would have never came back from Dubai, like 1899 01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:08,960 Speaker 1: if Nas is my brother and I wanted to Dubai. Listen, 1900 01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:15,920 Speaker 1: my nigga, listen, I'm working with. I'm working with. I'm 1901 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,920 Speaker 1: busting all in her tonight. You know, why do you 1902 01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,240 Speaker 1: think recently Miami? I guess when you finally have the 1903 01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:24,240 Speaker 1: conversation that was me, that was me? You know Honestly, 1904 01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,960 Speaker 1: um I had came around a couple of times when 1905 01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,800 Speaker 1: Nas was coming to Miami and he didn't have Queen's Bridge. 1906 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,280 Speaker 1: People would him and I didn't want to um engage 1907 01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:35,080 Speaker 1: into that conversation because I don't want to speak to 1908 01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,080 Speaker 1: people who don't know me, like I don't want to 1909 01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,559 Speaker 1: speak to people who if the conversation go right, they 1910 01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,800 Speaker 1: might not have consequences like you know what I'm saying, 1911 01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,800 Speaker 1: like if you speak to me and not like I'm 1912 01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:48,960 Speaker 1: gonna killer or something. But like I know Queen's Bridge 1913 01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,519 Speaker 1: people like I know, I would like to have the 1914 01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:54,280 Speaker 1: people that have respect in the hood. So when he 1915 01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:57,320 Speaker 1: came out, I had did um uh brust. The roads 1916 01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,080 Speaker 1: had brought me out in a Dolphin stadium and and 1917 01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,400 Speaker 1: um Nas was there, and I walked in his room 1918 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,519 Speaker 1: and I didn't see nobody from the QB. So I left, 1919 01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:08,599 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. One because I didn't want 1920 01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,120 Speaker 1: to seem like I was like threatening, and then two 1921 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,400 Speaker 1: is that's not my cup of tea, Like I have 1922 01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:17,280 Speaker 1: to be around people you know of your origin, like 1923 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,600 Speaker 1: I know people from Vernon Boulevard forty first side and 1924 01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,560 Speaker 1: forty if side. I know people from forty side of 1925 01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:26,160 Speaker 1: Temps Street and forty one side of Temps Street, and 1926 01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:28,599 Speaker 1: the same thing with twelve Street. So that's the people 1927 01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:31,560 Speaker 1: who I identify with. And Nas is older than me, 1928 01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,400 Speaker 1: so whether he's with people that's his age or with 1929 01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:39,080 Speaker 1: people that's younger than him, I identified with them, and 1930 01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,880 Speaker 1: that's who I wanted to to squash it with, you 1931 01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I had never got that opportunity, 1932 01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,040 Speaker 1: so I stayed away even when I was seeing him 1933 01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,640 Speaker 1: like seeing like places in New York because one of 1934 01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,840 Speaker 1: the one thing for sure, two teams for certain. I'm 1935 01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:57,360 Speaker 1: not mad about being sorry, Like I have no problem 1936 01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:01,200 Speaker 1: with saying sorry, Like I'm never gonna be perfect. I 1937 01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:03,880 Speaker 1: could be close to perfect, but I would never be perfect. 1938 01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,720 Speaker 1: So I wanted to say sorry, like you know what 1939 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I wanted to say sorry, period. But what 1940 01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:13,840 Speaker 1: sucked me up is the first moment I've seen to him, 1941 01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:17,200 Speaker 1: he said sorry to me so and I forgot he 1942 01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:20,519 Speaker 1: like he initially started it. You know, I had totally forgot. 1943 01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:23,320 Speaker 1: I was, what's all my nigga? He was like, he 1944 01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,200 Speaker 1: grabbed me and pull me. He's like, I'm sorry, and 1945 01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,280 Speaker 1: I was just like, it fucked me up. How much 1946 01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,400 Speaker 1: of a man he was. And then I said I'm sorry, 1947 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,600 Speaker 1: and then it's just Rose and Hennessey. And then he 1948 01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,000 Speaker 1: threw me on stage because it's one thing to say, yo, 1949 01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, we're cool. And he grabbed me and said, listen, 1950 01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:41,360 Speaker 1: mam dude, we're going to the stage. We're gonna let 1951 01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,200 Speaker 1: the world see this ship. And I was like, all right, cool. 1952 01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:45,880 Speaker 1: I still thought he was gonna go on stage and 1953 01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:50,240 Speaker 1: bottles and that nig It was to the DJ you 1954 01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:56,240 Speaker 1: put on nor Ship and I was like, oh, ship together, Na, 1955 01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't think we can. I don't know who. I 1956 01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,679 Speaker 1: don't know which one of us know the record better word? 1957 01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,519 Speaker 1: That was not a record. You know, I'm gonna actually 1958 01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,160 Speaker 1: film the video. We're gonna film the video one day. 1959 01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come together. I'm gonna get them drunk. Hennessey 1960 01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:15,000 Speaker 1: and he likes, he likes whiskey. He likes Asian whiskey. 1961 01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,040 Speaker 1: He's he's definitely getting a lot of money. When you 1962 01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:21,280 Speaker 1: your spiritment with Asian whiskey, You're You're different, You're different. 1963 01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:24,600 Speaker 1: So big him up for that. I love wine. I 1964 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,360 Speaker 1: love wine. I'm a wine connoisseur. But I mean it's 1965 01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,040 Speaker 1: so it's it's, you know, just to bring things forward. 1966 01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:34,479 Speaker 1: Hip hop is offering so much opportunities right now. It's 1967 01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,080 Speaker 1: just you gotta you gotta go into them doors and 1968 01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,679 Speaker 1: crack it. Man, you know what I'm saying. Like where 1969 01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:41,840 Speaker 1: Nas is at, you see, you see what he's doing, 1970 01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:47,439 Speaker 1: You see what Hove is doing. It's so much opportunities. 1971 01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,519 Speaker 1: And I I, for one, I like the new music. 1972 01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,720 Speaker 1: I can't sit around and tell you I don't like 1973 01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:55,160 Speaker 1: a young Doug. I can't sit around and tell you 1974 01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't like a Yo Gotti. I can't. You know 1975 01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,880 Speaker 1: what I mean. I live in Miami. I hearty, you 1976 01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And and I understand what's going on. 1977 01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,720 Speaker 1: I don't want the O G s hating like I 1978 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:08,639 Speaker 1: got O G that's on my line all the time, 1979 01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:10,840 Speaker 1: and NIS be waiting for you to drop out, like 1980 01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:14,559 Speaker 1: don't wait for me, nigga, Like don't wait for me nigga, 1981 01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,040 Speaker 1: Like like like this this great ship that's going on 1982 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,799 Speaker 1: out there, you know what I mean? So yeah, definitely 1983 01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:25,360 Speaker 1: we're not a time so many Rather come on, I 1984 01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,240 Speaker 1: love your Mom's always. I probably wanted to win the 1985 01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:31,360 Speaker 1: five rap records. Haven't made me cry because of that record. 1986 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:34,800 Speaker 1: It's the truth, Like you had that record you make 1987 01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,000 Speaker 1: you want to call your mom and it wasn't you 1988 01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,559 Speaker 1: lost your father during lost my father? Was that part 1989 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,040 Speaker 1: of why you think that record? Like? How did you 1990 01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:42,960 Speaker 1: do it? So you become big successful? Like to go 1991 01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:45,599 Speaker 1: back to the first album, then you finally faced adversity. 1992 01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:47,400 Speaker 1: That second album doesn't go where you wanted to go. 1993 01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:49,439 Speaker 1: Melvin Flint didn't go where I wanted How did you 1994 01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:54,519 Speaker 1: deal with that. I um again, I had like a 1995 01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,639 Speaker 1: fifty dollar to check something like that. And then Pun 1996 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:05,559 Speaker 1: unpassed and and you know what, Pun messed me up 1997 01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:08,240 Speaker 1: more than my father. And the reason why I Punt 1998 01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:09,920 Speaker 1: messed me up more than my father. I knew my 1999 01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:12,639 Speaker 1: father was sick. I knew he was having kidney failure. 2000 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:14,679 Speaker 1: I knew that he moved out of New York City 2001 01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,840 Speaker 1: because of his ship that was sucking with him. But Pun, 2002 01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,720 Speaker 1: I never saw him sick like I never saw like 2003 01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,400 Speaker 1: when like Pun has sleep apnea, meaning like he'll go 2004 01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,439 Speaker 1: in the middle of our conversation. But I thought I 2005 01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:30,360 Speaker 1: was boring, so I would try to. I thought I 2006 01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,120 Speaker 1: would try to literally living up my conversation. Man, keep 2007 01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:35,519 Speaker 1: his snick off, you know what I mean. Like, but 2008 01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know that that was a disease then, Like 2009 01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know that that was called sleep at me, 2010 01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:44,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, uh, when Pun died, 2011 01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,960 Speaker 1: I remember going to his casket, uh at the at 2012 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,519 Speaker 1: the funeral. And I never did this. I never did 2013 01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:52,799 Speaker 1: this with anybody that was dead. And I was talking 2014 01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,120 Speaker 1: to Pun and I was like, yo, b I don't 2015 01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,800 Speaker 1: understand this ship. And I remember God blessed the death 2016 01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:01,719 Speaker 1: flex from t X, not from flex flex from ts. 2017 01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:03,680 Speaker 1: He came to me and he's seen how much I 2018 01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:06,280 Speaker 1: was crying. He was like, yo, he's not suffering no more. 2019 01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,640 Speaker 1: And I remember like me ignoring him because I was 2020 01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:12,360 Speaker 1: still talking to Pun. But then he then I picked 2021 01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:14,720 Speaker 1: him up and I was like suffering, Like what do 2022 01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,720 Speaker 1: you mean suffering? I've never seen Pun stuffer like I've 2023 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,920 Speaker 1: seen Pun ride a scooter, like I seen Pun jump 2024 01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,519 Speaker 1: over gates like you know that you came up video 2025 01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:27,080 Speaker 1: where he jumps off the thing. Like I was in 2026 01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,599 Speaker 1: the conversation for half an hour. Pun is telling them 2027 01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:31,760 Speaker 1: I can do that. Tell him right, Nori, I'm like, 2028 01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:35,800 Speaker 1: what the fund are you? But I'm like, but in 2029 01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,800 Speaker 1: my mind, I'm not gonna die. Is all the way 2030 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,240 Speaker 1: up there, You're like six hundred pounds. But I never 2031 01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:47,439 Speaker 1: seen him sick. So his death hit me more than 2032 01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:50,280 Speaker 1: even my father. Like I remember where I was at. 2033 01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,439 Speaker 1: I remember I was in West Orange, New Jersey in 2034 01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,160 Speaker 1: my crib my first career, but I ever bought and 2035 01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,400 Speaker 1: I got the call and I remember I think it 2036 01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:03,880 Speaker 1: was May Martin Moore and made him Back in the day, 2037 01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:11,040 Speaker 1: college radio, college radio sorry. So man said your Pun 2038 01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:13,760 Speaker 1: died and I was like, this is not this. There 2039 01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,439 Speaker 1: is no part of this is funny, Like this is 2040 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,240 Speaker 1: bad and he was like nah, and then I forget. 2041 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,360 Speaker 1: I forget. Somebody from Loud called me. It was like 2042 01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:26,040 Speaker 1: Pun passed and it was just like whoa between Pun 2043 01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,479 Speaker 1: and my father. I tried to take a break, like 2044 01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,760 Speaker 1: I tried to be like yo, you know, but I 2045 01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,080 Speaker 1: took the check. The check was rot, you know what 2046 01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:38,519 Speaker 1: I'm saying to So I had to finish this album. 2047 01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,880 Speaker 1: So Melvin Flint, I hate that album, not hate it 2048 01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:44,719 Speaker 1: because you know, I was scared you not white people 2049 01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:46,920 Speaker 1: and not just white people, but people see me at 2050 01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:48,519 Speaker 1: the bar and be like you take that ship back 2051 01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:52,040 Speaker 1: about Melvin Flint, I'm like, what, like that was your 2052 01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:55,360 Speaker 1: best album and I'm like it was half album and 2053 01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:58,160 Speaker 1: they were like, no, motherfucker, that ship was there. Like 2054 01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:02,240 Speaker 1: the other day, somebody hit me cocaine business controls America 2055 01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeo, I got that from Careless, right. 2056 01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,320 Speaker 1: I didn't make that up. I didn't make that up 2057 01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:11,000 Speaker 1: like somebody had a shirt cash money on their money. 2058 01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:15,960 Speaker 1: Early on that I was that I was the first 2059 01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:17,920 Speaker 1: one who worked with cash Money in the New York 2060 01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,400 Speaker 1: City area, and I think as well Prodigy did with 2061 01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:26,280 Speaker 1: young black entrepreneurs. That was that was, That was way 2062 01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:30,559 Speaker 1: after But um uh, I remember cash money, um because 2063 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,200 Speaker 1: I had paid Manny excuse me, I had paid baby 2064 01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:38,479 Speaker 1: uh for the many Fresh be right, and I wanted 2065 01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,840 Speaker 1: just Juvie. I was a Juvie fan. Do you want 2066 01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,559 Speaker 1: to be huh. I'm the one who brought that ship 2067 01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:46,519 Speaker 1: to New York. I went to Anti Martinez and I 2068 01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:50,880 Speaker 1: just kept saying, I don't know not being huh. I like, 2069 01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:52,920 Speaker 1: what the funk are you talking about? Like I'm like, 2070 01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,280 Speaker 1: this is this nigga, because I'm gonna tell you why 2071 01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to work with master P. Master P had 2072 01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,759 Speaker 1: had a group signed to Penalty Records called Skull Duggery 2073 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,560 Speaker 1: Skull Duggery, and I felt like once he signed the 2074 01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:08,519 Speaker 1: penalty like a half owned penalty, like like technically, but 2075 01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm the nigga, why you don't know about penalty and 2076 01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:15,200 Speaker 1: master people is charging us like a hun He was like, 2077 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:17,000 Speaker 1: you told me give me a hundred twenty thous I'm 2078 01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,400 Speaker 1: like Jesus, like I'm not sure he worked that, you know. 2079 01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,599 Speaker 1: So I went to New Orleans, I had a show 2080 01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:27,240 Speaker 1: because it's mad Spanish people in New Orleans is something 2081 01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:30,240 Speaker 1: that people don't know about. So I'm in New Orleans 2082 01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,839 Speaker 1: and they're like, this is another this is the other niggas, 2083 01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:36,439 Speaker 1: and these people are putting me on the cash money. 2084 01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:40,240 Speaker 1: So cash money, And obviously I heard Juvie and I 2085 01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:43,760 Speaker 1: was like to be huh no no, And I was like, yo, 2086 01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,400 Speaker 1: I need to funk with this nig This nigga is hard. 2087 01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:52,400 Speaker 1: And I came and I said it. And like maybe 2088 01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:55,679 Speaker 1: two months after Hove did Diverse all the remix for High, 2089 01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:59,519 Speaker 1: but I had already had them in New York. And 2090 01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,080 Speaker 1: this is the first time I ever you know, we 2091 01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:03,760 Speaker 1: knew York people don't eat palk and ship. It's the 2092 01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:07,599 Speaker 1: first time I've ever seen somebody ordered like bacon on pizza. 2093 01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:12,040 Speaker 1: Like these niggas ordered bacon on pizza. Like I didn't 2094 01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:14,559 Speaker 1: even know you could do that. Like they had bacon, 2095 01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:18,400 Speaker 1: they had sausage, they had um, what's the ship tapp 2096 01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:21,800 Speaker 1: of rony they had, they had they had everything on 2097 01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,439 Speaker 1: the pizza. I was like, did that come from New Orleans? 2098 01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:27,000 Speaker 1: Like they're like, no, we got it from here. Like 2099 01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:29,439 Speaker 1: they had my whole students as a something like like 2100 01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:32,040 Speaker 1: like a pig. It was dope, but it was dope. 2101 01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,080 Speaker 1: It was like so hip hop b G. And then 2102 01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:39,720 Speaker 1: this is where they guy, this little guy named Rain, 2103 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,280 Speaker 1: and I made him change his verse his first verse. 2104 01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,320 Speaker 1: I was like a little way change. I was like, yo, 2105 01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:48,080 Speaker 1: can you do something else? And he did something else 2106 01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:52,479 Speaker 1: and he murdered it And twelve years after that still 2107 01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:55,000 Speaker 1: my friend. But he always remembers it too. You know 2108 01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:56,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You always remembers it. So you felt 2109 01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:59,840 Speaker 1: like you redeemed yourself of God's favorite. I definitely did 2110 01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,880 Speaker 1: feel like I think I would deem myself a God's favorite. 2111 01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:06,599 Speaker 1: I was so um, like my favorite CEOs, I'm sorry, 2112 01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:09,200 Speaker 1: Like nil Levin is my first, you know what I'm saying. 2113 01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,559 Speaker 1: I know he feels terrible when I say this story, 2114 01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:14,599 Speaker 1: but he's my first. And uh, he's the first person 2115 01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,200 Speaker 1: that embraced me and gave me a big check. But 2116 01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:21,320 Speaker 1: my favorite CEOs is Leo comes Um besides nil Levini 2117 01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:25,919 Speaker 1: let me out there, but Leo cons Kevin Lows, Mike Kaiser, 2118 01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:30,879 Speaker 1: Julie Greenwall, Randy akerd You're here coming off like technically 2119 01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,040 Speaker 1: your first brick, Right, how does def jam embrace you? Like, 2120 01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:36,240 Speaker 1: how does that happen? Like? What is that? Well, Melvin 2121 01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:40,800 Speaker 1: Flint didn't brick. It's still in gold, but um, what 2122 01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:44,080 Speaker 1: happened was I didn't like Tommy Boys rollout. It wasn't 2123 01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't for Melvin Flint. It was the reunion album. 2124 01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,840 Speaker 1: What happened was Warner Chap whatnot want to chat with 2125 01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:54,519 Speaker 1: the publican company, but Warner Brothers exceptter Tommy Boy and said, 2126 01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:57,479 Speaker 1: you guys are not making money. You have three access 2127 01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:01,439 Speaker 1: making money. Unfortunately, the three acts that was making money, 2128 01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:05,040 Speaker 1: two of them was on Penalty was CNN and Nori. 2129 01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:09,080 Speaker 1: So Tom Sillerman's what now did I think about it? 2130 01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:11,200 Speaker 1: He was a genius. Back then I thought he was 2131 01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:15,040 Speaker 1: a scumbag. So he said, fuck penalty, we're closing Penalty 2132 01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:19,400 Speaker 1: down and we're taking capone, Noriega and Nori. But it's 2133 01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,519 Speaker 1: the way he did it. It was so disrespectful to 2134 01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:24,439 Speaker 1: me because like we had Mr. Childs and he's like, yeah, 2135 01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, I know you guys hang out the penalty 2136 01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:30,080 Speaker 1: every day. Yeah, He's like, don't go there tomorrow. We're 2137 01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:34,040 Speaker 1: like why not. He's like, uh, you come hang out 2138 01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:35,680 Speaker 1: on time, you boy, we have a smoking section for you. 2139 01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:38,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, why, It's like I dropped the whole penalty, 2140 01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,479 Speaker 1: but this is a week before the reunion. It's supposed 2141 01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:45,960 Speaker 1: to drop now, mind you. Me and Leo le All, 2142 01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:49,559 Speaker 1: leoll used to be trying to steal me from penalty 2143 01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:53,360 Speaker 1: from day one. Le All been going through. It's like 2144 01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:59,080 Speaker 1: I did the research, Nori, and this is not the 2145 01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:04,320 Speaker 1: label it did you. The label sucks. I want to 2146 01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:07,120 Speaker 1: get you. So I'm like, all right, Leo. You know, 2147 01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:09,960 Speaker 1: the first time I met John Rules with Leo, he 2148 01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,360 Speaker 1: brung like you, I'm gonna shoot you some queen shit. 2149 01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:14,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying this, And this is why 2150 01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:15,960 Speaker 1: I fell in love with lee All the minute of 2151 01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,800 Speaker 1: the first time he called me, He said, where are 2152 01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,479 Speaker 1: you at? And I said that he came up video shoot. 2153 01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,599 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm at a pun video shoot. He said 2154 01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:25,679 Speaker 1: I'd be there in the hour. He never said where, 2155 01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:30,160 Speaker 1: he never said what state, he never said he just 2156 01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,120 Speaker 1: said I'll be there in the hour, and then he 2157 01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,000 Speaker 1: was there in the hour. To me, that that's why 2158 01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:37,639 Speaker 1: that's why we gotta watch what he's doing with young 2159 01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:42,800 Speaker 1: Dog right now, because I think he sees I've never 2160 01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:48,000 Speaker 1: I have never seen leoll do radio. I'm a breast 2161 01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,920 Speaker 1: to what's going on in the internet. He's at Andree 2162 01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:55,160 Speaker 1: Martinez with young dog. He's sway in the morning with 2163 01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:59,800 Speaker 1: young dog like that he didn't do. That's his DMX, 2164 01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,320 Speaker 1: My dude. He'll go all out to get you. But 2165 01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,479 Speaker 1: once he gets you, you on your own. Like we 2166 01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:07,000 Speaker 1: used to have a saying that def Jam used to 2167 01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:11,240 Speaker 1: be like Hove, d Max, al l Co, j and 2168 01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:15,040 Speaker 1: Ja Rule. They get the three million dollar budgets, Nori 2169 01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:20,760 Speaker 1: method Man, red Man, Freeway, Keith Mary. We don't get 2170 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,000 Speaker 1: to three million dollar budgets, but we stay on tour 2171 01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:26,599 Speaker 1: for the whole year, so we grind out our gold 2172 01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:29,479 Speaker 1: while I meanwhile, you know Hove and you know l 2173 01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,240 Speaker 1: L they just dropped and they and they and they 2174 01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:35,880 Speaker 1: get their goal. But um le all was one of 2175 01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:38,160 Speaker 1: the most I give you a better, I give you 2176 01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:39,640 Speaker 1: better story. This is how, this is how you know? 2177 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:43,360 Speaker 1: LESL Right. I shoot a video called I'm Gonna Live 2178 01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,960 Speaker 1: My Life with J Right. J Rule lives next door 2179 01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:50,800 Speaker 1: to me at the time, Right Jersey, New Jersey, Ja Rule, 2180 01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:54,520 Speaker 1: I got I got three cars, but Ja Rules three 2181 01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,600 Speaker 1: cars is different from my three cars. Okay, he got 2182 01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:00,320 Speaker 1: a may Back, I gotta fire on a b ends. 2183 01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,480 Speaker 1: I got a hummer he got I don't know, we 2184 01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:06,960 Speaker 1: got something bigger than the hummer. Right, I gotta fucking 2185 01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,800 Speaker 1: drop Lex. He got the fucking drop Bins. Right. So 2186 01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:14,520 Speaker 1: I realized where his money bracket is different. We might 2187 01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:16,840 Speaker 1: live on the same street, but he's getting a lot 2188 01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:20,400 Speaker 1: more money than me. Right, So naturally I want to 2189 01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:23,440 Speaker 1: do a job rule based record. I said, your job, 2190 01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:25,640 Speaker 1: I want to I want to radio record. So we 2191 01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:28,280 Speaker 1: go do a radio record. It's called I'm Gonna Live 2192 01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:32,040 Speaker 1: My Life. It's on Guard's Favorite. Right, I shoot the video. 2193 01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:36,960 Speaker 1: I rent Lamborghinis, I rent Porsches, I would do all 2194 01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:40,520 Speaker 1: the ship that's not with Lee all wanted for me. Right. 2195 01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:44,920 Speaker 1: So Leo comes to me and says, Nori, you have 2196 01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:47,680 Speaker 1: a studio session tonight. Right. I'm like yeah, He's like, 2197 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,280 Speaker 1: I would be there. Make sure you invite all your friends. 2198 01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:55,440 Speaker 1: This is the first time a CEO that's ever said 2199 01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:59,920 Speaker 1: bring your friends, like, bring the toughest of the tough. 2200 01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:02,600 Speaker 1: So I'm like what, I'm like, all right, let me 2201 01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:06,440 Speaker 1: just testing what then is going on? Come out and 2202 01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:09,320 Speaker 1: bringing the hammers man. Leo want to see the hammers right, 2203 01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:12,560 Speaker 1: So we're going there. He's there before us. He's sitting there. 2204 01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,440 Speaker 1: He's like, did you see the video? I'm like, no, 2205 01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:18,480 Speaker 1: what the video? He's like, the video the one that 2206 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:21,640 Speaker 1: you want your first single? Oh my god? Right, he 2207 01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:25,840 Speaker 1: puts his VHS. I'm sorry his VHS. I'm old. He 2208 01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:29,560 Speaker 1: put the VHS in. We all watched the video. Hey white. 2209 01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,400 Speaker 1: He's like, because you know, you're seeing yourself. So like 2210 01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:37,600 Speaker 1: Nigga's just like, oh, look, you see the bitch. So 2211 01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:41,840 Speaker 1: Leo is just waiting there and everybody's like he's letting 2212 01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:45,240 Speaker 1: everybody like love it. He's like and he goes. He 2213 01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:47,520 Speaker 1: goes to me, nor we do you like the video? 2214 01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:50,920 Speaker 1: Like the video of the video? He said, are you 2215 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:55,919 Speaker 1: gonna ask me my opinion? Let's say Lego puts your opinion. 2216 01:56:56,520 --> 01:57:01,520 Speaker 1: He said it is popcorn. Up until this morning, I 2217 01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:06,040 Speaker 1: thought popcorn was a good things. The first time Nigga 2218 01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:12,480 Speaker 1: said it is popcorn. So I'm like, I'm like the 2219 01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:17,160 Speaker 1: way he used it was wrong. So I'm like popcorn. 2220 01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, this is 2221 01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:26,240 Speaker 1: a jar Rule video. Ju will be over in three 2222 01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:31,960 Speaker 1: months I didn't invest in two r E to be 2223 01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:38,440 Speaker 1: a jar rule. So now he's offending me, like like, damn, 2224 01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:40,320 Speaker 1: Like I lived next door to job, I don't know 2225 01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,640 Speaker 1: what are you talking about, Leo, This nigger guy I 2226 01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,360 Speaker 1: stretched me back out there. I don't know, but I'm 2227 01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:47,920 Speaker 1: just saying, he's getting a lot of money. Man. So 2228 01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, he's like, this is not what do we 2229 01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:54,920 Speaker 1: want from you? This is has a song with Memoria 2230 01:57:55,040 --> 01:58:00,960 Speaker 1: Kerry TLC and and uh Jennifer Lopez. At the same time, 2231 01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:05,160 Speaker 1: you can't do that. And I'm like, mind you, I'm 2232 01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:09,760 Speaker 1: fucked up in the heat. So he goes, if I 2233 01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:16,520 Speaker 1: cut you right now, what would you bleed? Like Nike talking, 2234 01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:21,200 Speaker 1: I said, I would bleed blood, he said. Asked me 2235 01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:26,560 Speaker 1: the same question, said Leo. If I cut you right now, 2236 01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,320 Speaker 1: what would you bleed? He said, sucker and c by 2237 01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:33,960 Speaker 1: run DMC. I said, damn, that was hard. That was hard. 2238 01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:36,960 Speaker 1: I knew where he was going. So he goes, I'm 2239 01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:40,240 Speaker 1: gonna ask you again, if I cut you right now, 2240 01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:45,160 Speaker 1: what would you bleed? I was like super dog, he said, exactly, 2241 01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:46,800 Speaker 1: for I was in Virginia waiting for you to car 2242 01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:51,280 Speaker 1: services downstairs. Go if it wasn't for Leo, we wouldn't 2243 01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:56,320 Speaker 1: have Homeboy. I came to park then Nigga shut me down. 2244 01:58:57,120 --> 01:59:00,280 Speaker 1: Six miles I've spent on this video, and his deal 2245 01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:03,600 Speaker 1: was it never came out. I never came it came out, 2246 01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:06,320 Speaker 1: but it came out fruit leg But um so he said, 2247 01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:09,680 Speaker 1: listen right now, you spent three hundred. We're not gonna 2248 01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:12,480 Speaker 1: give a little extra other three hundred. But if you 2249 01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:15,600 Speaker 1: do what I say, this budget will wind up on 2250 01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:19,560 Speaker 1: somebody else's budget. But you must go to Virginia right now. 2251 01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:23,360 Speaker 1: Farrell was waiting for you, and I was so pissed. 2252 01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:26,040 Speaker 1: I walked. I came downstairs. He had two car services. 2253 01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:27,920 Speaker 1: I tried to call my wife. She's like, we already 2254 01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:36,400 Speaker 1: called me. Is really good? Really like? My wife was like, yeah, okay, 2255 01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:39,200 Speaker 1: we were straight. Just go the way he's talking, you 2256 01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:42,240 Speaker 1: better go. So I went there and Farrell called me 2257 01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:44,920 Speaker 1: and where I was like, Yo, you ever heard the 2258 01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:48,320 Speaker 1: Jungle Brothers. I'm like yeah, he's like Uncle Sam Mike 2259 01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:52,840 Speaker 1: geese Man with his manager Chris This journeys Slamm five 2260 01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:57,400 Speaker 1: thousand boom and WATS sound System stated it up. So 2261 01:59:57,480 --> 02:00:00,680 Speaker 1: he's like, yo, go to fucking tower Records. I'm sorry, 2262 02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm old. Tower was open at the time. Go to 2263 02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Tower Records and pick up that Jungle Brothers record. So 2264 02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Farrell made me study this record. Now, if you listen 2265 02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:14,120 Speaker 1: to it and all poppy say what that nigg is 2266 02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:16,920 Speaker 1: the man with his manager Chris Cinel with a jazz 2267 02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:20,960 Speaker 1: still floors and showing your rod, it's the same exact flow. 2268 02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:24,040 Speaker 1: So he made me take the cadence. He made me 2269 02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:25,600 Speaker 1: take the floor. But you know what he gave me 2270 02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:30,720 Speaker 1: before that. He gave me ice ice baby. M He says, 2271 02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:36,000 Speaker 1: study ice ice Baby. I I'll stop it, just stop stop. 2272 02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:39,760 Speaker 1: I did study it. You know what that is? Halleback Young, 2273 02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:56,040 Speaker 1: halle back rolling go to see this collaborating I had. 2274 02:00:56,520 --> 02:01:00,440 Speaker 1: I had fabs Hallyback Young and first he even to me, 2275 02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:02,720 Speaker 1: he was like, but I just couldn't study it because 2276 02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:06,480 Speaker 1: I was like, damn man, ice ice baby, it's not 2277 02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:11,000 Speaker 1: me Like I just kept seeing Hammer's pants. I just 2278 02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:13,560 Speaker 1: kept picturing my soide, I was like, if I listen 2279 02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:14,960 Speaker 1: to him now, he's gonna tell me to do it 2280 02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:17,720 Speaker 1: in the video, you know what I mean? And that's 2281 02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:20,960 Speaker 1: that's that's how you got homeboys. I came to party 2282 02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:27,280 Speaker 1: this is why this podcast CBS sign me, CBS, It's 2283 02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:30,440 Speaker 1: going there. Chance yes, yes, ye do this man. I 2284 02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:32,360 Speaker 1: can already tell you we're winding down. Thank you all 2285 02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:36,720 Speaker 1: for having me, Thank you all for being When is 2286 02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:42,040 Speaker 1: the podcast? Friday? Friday podcast dropped along with the Drunk 2287 02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:48,320 Speaker 1: Uncle um uh mixed album I want to call it. Yeah, 2288 02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:50,960 Speaker 1: we're doing it both. I'm actually you know, I just 2289 02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:54,160 Speaker 1: I just want to impact the internet, continue to do 2290 02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,720 Speaker 1: what I gotta do. Uh. For for those that that 2291 02:01:57,000 --> 02:02:00,840 Speaker 1: that are CBS followers and CBS where we actually the 2292 02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:03,160 Speaker 1: first time we're announcing it. We we we let out 2293 02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:06,120 Speaker 1: a little blog when we put the CBS logo, but 2294 02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:10,120 Speaker 1: we're actually on the same exact station as Elliott Wilson 2295 02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:13,800 Speaker 1: and my brother beat died. My brother. How many Kenny 2296 02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:19,240 Speaker 1: Anderson talk about and excited about that Got I Got, 2297 02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:22,200 Speaker 1: I Got, I Got, We got we got gun play 2298 02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:25,160 Speaker 1: at campone, which is hilarious because we got compone to 2299 02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:26,920 Speaker 1: admit that he's Haitian and he don't want to be. 2300 02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:31,520 Speaker 1: He's yeah, I know in Miami he admitted it, but 2301 02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:35,920 Speaker 1: everywhere else he don't. I but you know, I like 2302 02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:37,560 Speaker 1: that that's been a joke for him for years, but 2303 02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:40,600 Speaker 1: we got uh first episode is Fat Joe. We got 2304 02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:42,600 Speaker 1: Fat Joe doing a lot of dumb ship that he 2305 02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:46,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't normally do, and then we got Kenny Anderson. I 2306 02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:49,360 Speaker 1: wanted to do something different. Um. Then after that we 2307 02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:53,640 Speaker 1: got gun Play and Capone. Tonight, we're doing Pause tonight. 2308 02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:58,720 Speaker 1: The locks tomorrow is jar Rule of His Crib. And 2309 02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:01,000 Speaker 1: then after that we want to do tax Stone. And 2310 02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:02,920 Speaker 1: I didn't want to bite off for y'all because I 2311 02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:04,360 Speaker 1: was gonna get the Breakfast Club. But I was like, 2312 02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:06,880 Speaker 1: damn the Preface Club. They came up here. I gotta 2313 02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:08,880 Speaker 1: I gotta have some type of So I got a 2314 02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:11,360 Speaker 1: tax Stone and see the guard you know what I'm saying. Like, 2315 02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't wanna have the same exact pictures 2316 02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:15,600 Speaker 1: y'all like them. I don't want to bite them like 2317 02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:18,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean to creative on the show, 2318 02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:22,320 Speaker 1: I would love to. I ain't gonna lie. I was 2319 02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:23,800 Speaker 1: about to steal this show and just give it to 2320 02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:26,320 Speaker 1: TV and say just listen, don't just just don't worry 2321 02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:28,240 Speaker 1: about it, you know what I mean? But yeah, man, um, 2322 02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm thank you, thank you all for having us, and 2323 02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:35,240 Speaker 1: you know we appreciate this, the CBS family for giving 2324 02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:39,240 Speaker 1: us a chance, because we're really really the exact opposite 2325 02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:43,560 Speaker 1: of what CBS represents. What you say, it's gonna be excited. Yeah, 2326 02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:47,400 Speaker 1: and you guys a journalist, You guys are great at 2327 02:03:47,480 --> 02:03:49,840 Speaker 1: what you do. Me and he fing are great at 2328 02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:51,520 Speaker 1: what we do. It's just what we do. It sucks 2329 02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:54,680 Speaker 1: so fucked up. It's like it's funked up in a 2330 02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:59,120 Speaker 1: great ray, which is that, Oh, the book, Just get 2331 02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:01,040 Speaker 1: the bus, get to the book too. My man, this 2332 02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:02,880 Speaker 1: is he just came home from jail. This is how 2333 02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:04,720 Speaker 1: I feel like you should come on from jail and 2334 02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:07,160 Speaker 1: do a book. Not no shots at nobody, but you 2335 02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:09,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm saying, and um, he's he's 2336 02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:12,720 Speaker 1: a great guy, you know, from from Naas to everybody, 2337 02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, great influence. He's from Queens and I just 2338 02:04:15,200 --> 02:04:19,480 Speaker 1: wanted to you know, in the title, uh, it's called 2339 02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:21,400 Speaker 1: My Big come on, come on say something, Come on, man, 2340 02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:25,520 Speaker 1: come on say something. Goddamnit. No, no, it's okay. I'll 2341 02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:27,840 Speaker 1: be a don king. You know. The book is called 2342 02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:30,560 Speaker 1: on my Bid, but it's an acting um for blessing 2343 02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:33,200 Speaker 1: in disguise because you know, the book. I feel that 2344 02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:35,880 Speaker 1: if I didn't go to prison, I wouldn't have took 2345 02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:37,640 Speaker 1: the time to do that, you know, the right the book. 2346 02:04:40,240 --> 02:04:42,760 Speaker 1: They caught me Ice and queens free, you know, free 2347 02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:45,120 Speaker 1: a son. But you you know, the whole thing was like, 2348 02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, I got a I caught it like a 2349 02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:49,720 Speaker 1: major drug traffic in charge or whatever, you know, and 2350 02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:52,240 Speaker 1: you know it was a big case. You know, it 2351 02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:55,200 Speaker 1: was a big case, a big situation, and I ended 2352 02:04:55,240 --> 02:04:56,800 Speaker 1: up you know, getting around most of the eight one 2353 02:04:56,840 --> 02:04:59,440 Speaker 1: felonies and everything like that. So you know, that's a 2354 02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:02,000 Speaker 1: blessing in itself, you know what I'm saying. So you know, 2355 02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:04,480 Speaker 1: instead of just going in and doing nothing, I used 2356 02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, I used that and channel it into writing 2357 02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:10,360 Speaker 1: this book to deter younger kids to do the things 2358 02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:12,320 Speaker 1: I've done, you know what I mean. But me, me 2359 02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:14,680 Speaker 1: being yeah, me being through what I've been through. I 2360 02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:17,880 Speaker 1: just used examples from my life to you know, show 2361 02:05:17,960 --> 02:05:19,920 Speaker 1: that I'm credible to tell you not to do it. 2362 02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:21,640 Speaker 1: You know a lot of kids, you know, like when 2363 02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:25,240 Speaker 1: a lawyer or adopt which they should respect, tell you 2364 02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:27,280 Speaker 1: not to do something because they came from your community, 2365 02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:28,960 Speaker 1: they just don't respect because they feel like you didn't 2366 02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:31,160 Speaker 1: live like we live. So now I'm telling you I 2367 02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:32,880 Speaker 1: did what you're doing and what you're trying to do, 2368 02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:34,720 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you don't do it. So you know 2369 02:05:35,160 --> 02:05:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get a copy. Oh it's on Amazon 2370 02:05:37,200 --> 02:05:40,120 Speaker 1: right now, it's on Amazon. You know we're gonna stories 2371 02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:45,400 Speaker 1: getting together, but I ain't gonna live. Let me cut 2372 02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:47,760 Speaker 1: you off. On one second, I thought this thing is like, yeah, 2373 02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:49,360 Speaker 1: I wrote a book. I thought this NIGG is gonna 2374 02:05:49,400 --> 02:05:53,240 Speaker 1: hand me like a bunch of papers. You can hand 2375 02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:55,480 Speaker 1: me a real book. I'm like, you got you know, 2376 02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:57,720 Speaker 1: you made a deal in jail like this NIGG is 2377 02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:01,720 Speaker 1: mad advance. No, but you know, Norman like been doing 2378 02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:03,840 Speaker 1: everything for me, you know, helping me bring me places 2379 02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:06,280 Speaker 1: places like this that you know, to get my word out. 2380 02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,120 Speaker 1: You know it's a good read, you know what I mean. 2381 02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:10,200 Speaker 1: But my thing is, like I told me, I get 2382 02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:12,360 Speaker 1: it to the people. I like to see the feedback. 2383 02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:14,560 Speaker 1: You know, I want y'all to read it and you know, 2384 02:06:14,840 --> 02:06:17,200 Speaker 1: and give honest feedback or what it's about, because you know, 2385 02:06:17,240 --> 02:06:18,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a good read. I ain't really you 2386 02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:20,600 Speaker 1: do only let people in jail read it? So far, 2387 02:06:21,240 --> 02:06:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, you know, so I know, I appreciate that. 2388 02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to check that out. Man, Drunk Uncle, the album, 2389 02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:30,000 Speaker 1: Drink Champs, the podcast Drunk Uncle, the album Drink Camps, 2390 02:06:30,040 --> 02:06:31,720 Speaker 1: the podcast You got one more question? Be there? I 2391 02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:37,840 Speaker 1: feel like you have one more. I'm gonna close out more. 2392 02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:41,000 Speaker 1: Come on, all right, you tweeted you hated brag rap. 2393 02:06:41,080 --> 02:06:46,200 Speaker 1: I understand what you meant about that too. It's not 2394 02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:48,840 Speaker 1: I hate brag rap. What I mean by that is 2395 02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:54,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot more substance that we can do. 2396 02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:59,240 Speaker 1: Like I was appalled that people love moments like I 2397 02:06:59,600 --> 02:07:03,280 Speaker 1: like because it's not the norm. Like, you know, you know, 2398 02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:07,360 Speaker 1: everything that's out is about yo, I got this made bag. 2399 02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:12,720 Speaker 1: You know, sixteen juries, you know, fifteen different sneakers. Like 2400 02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:17,160 Speaker 1: some of the kids don't need that, you know. Some 2401 02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:20,720 Speaker 1: of the kids need inspiration, They need substance, they need 2402 02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:27,160 Speaker 1: they need more than just having seventeen rings like they 2403 02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:31,400 Speaker 1: you need a little bit more. And the thing about 2404 02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:34,080 Speaker 1: it is like I was the dude that said I'm 2405 02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:36,880 Speaker 1: sitting tired of rappers talking about all this chetta and 2406 02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:39,520 Speaker 1: when you see them in the streets, they gotta bullshit Jetta. 2407 02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:42,600 Speaker 1: Because that was the truth. Like I was seeing people 2408 02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:48,840 Speaker 1: talking about ship that they that wasn't happening, and I 2409 02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:55,680 Speaker 1: feel like, whole uh whole jeezy Ross. They already covered 2410 02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:59,440 Speaker 1: that ground. So if you're coming out new, you should 2411 02:07:59,480 --> 02:08:01,520 Speaker 1: you should do something else, you should do something different. 2412 02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:03,920 Speaker 1: I've always been the guy like when people were rhyming 2413 02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:07,880 Speaker 1: on Havoc beats, I used Farrell. When people was rhyming 2414 02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:11,200 Speaker 1: on Farrell beats, I used Scott start like, I'm always 2415 02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:14,000 Speaker 1: the guy to go to the left. It doesn't always 2416 02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:20,120 Speaker 1: work for me, but it's a chance, it's a chance 2417 02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:23,480 Speaker 1: that I'm willing to take to be different. Like like 2418 02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:27,800 Speaker 1: when I said what what, Like niggas in the studio 2419 02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:33,680 Speaker 1: was looking at me like what the No, no, no, 2420 02:08:33,760 --> 02:08:36,960 Speaker 1: that's a super a superar But what what that that 2421 02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:40,080 Speaker 1: that phrase started at the War report. You gotta remember, 2422 02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:41,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was like what what what? What? 2423 02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:44,960 Speaker 1: And I remember like track, I remember doing l A 2424 02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:47,960 Speaker 1: l A and they were raised my what what ams 2425 02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:49,560 Speaker 1: off of that? Like I was started off what what 2426 02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:51,840 Speaker 1: and people were like yo, he too hype. And the 2427 02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:57,640 Speaker 1: thing about it was for me, how nas and how 2428 02:08:57,800 --> 02:09:01,080 Speaker 1: mob deep and how Capoe was acting didn't reflect what 2429 02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:04,160 Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge really was. What I mean by that is, 2430 02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:05,880 Speaker 1: and I'm from left Rack. Let's just be clear, because 2431 02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:07,760 Speaker 1: I kept saying Queen's Bridge. I don't want nobody to 2432 02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:10,240 Speaker 1: get it confused. But what I'm saying, what I mean 2433 02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:13,280 Speaker 1: by that is they were laid back, like if you 2434 02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:18,360 Speaker 1: like to this day nine and then prod of you 2435 02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:21,640 Speaker 1: world up, world up in the order of them. And 2436 02:09:22,360 --> 02:09:25,160 Speaker 1: to me, that's not Queen's Bridge at all, Like that's 2437 02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:27,480 Speaker 1: a part of Queen's Bridge. But if you go to 2438 02:09:27,600 --> 02:09:31,680 Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge right now, this little niggering skateboards and soft 2439 02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:35,080 Speaker 1: balls at each other like this energy. I wanted to 2440 02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:37,080 Speaker 1: capture that part of it, you know what I'm saying. 2441 02:09:37,160 --> 02:09:39,960 Speaker 1: So I wanted so when you say brag rap sometimes 2442 02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:42,800 Speaker 1: like when I hear brag rap, it's just like sometimes 2443 02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:46,280 Speaker 1: it's just like it's just it's just it's not what 2444 02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:49,520 Speaker 1: we I mean. Don't get me wrong. We should have 2445 02:09:49,640 --> 02:09:52,360 Speaker 1: every part of rap like this shouldn't be like y'all 2446 02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:54,840 Speaker 1: only listen to this type of rap like I listened 2447 02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:57,200 Speaker 1: to Celo Green, I listened to Young Thug, I listened 2448 02:09:57,200 --> 02:09:59,880 Speaker 1: to a little Wayne and then I'll listen to most 2449 02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:03,520 Speaker 1: I listened to Live Quality. You know what I'm saying, 2450 02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:08,960 Speaker 1: because I don't want to to to listen to only 2451 02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:12,800 Speaker 1: things that I like that that that that like in 2452 02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:14,720 Speaker 1: the gym, I'm gonna listen to m O P. I 2453 02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:16,480 Speaker 1: ain't been in the gym in a long time, but 2454 02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:18,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I'd rather listen to 2455 02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:21,440 Speaker 1: m O P. You know what I'm saying. But um so, 2456 02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:23,280 Speaker 1: that's just that's just all. It's not It's not that 2457 02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:26,040 Speaker 1: I hate brag rap. It's just that I hate when 2458 02:10:26,200 --> 02:10:28,240 Speaker 1: that gets the forefront. You know what I'm saying. Like 2459 02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:31,520 Speaker 1: Kendrick is doing an excellent job and having substance, and 2460 02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:33,520 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people could take in Kendrick 2461 02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:36,080 Speaker 1: right now. A lot of people like bro Kendrick got 2462 02:10:36,160 --> 02:10:39,040 Speaker 1: the past. No, you don't like I mean he was 2463 02:10:39,240 --> 02:10:40,960 Speaker 1: saying like he got the like the green light, you 2464 02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:44,520 Speaker 1: don't have the green light. He's making rap that people 2465 02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:49,000 Speaker 1: can actually relate to, and that should be celebrated as 2466 02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:53,040 Speaker 1: opposed to be You know, everybody's getting drugged up if 2467 02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:55,520 Speaker 1: you listen to rap, Yo, if you listen to rapping, 2468 02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:58,120 Speaker 1: you did everything these rappers are doing right now. You're 2469 02:10:58,280 --> 02:11:03,280 Speaker 1: going to be high as how everything is siss. Put it, 2470 02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:05,400 Speaker 1: put it in the cup. Put it in the cup. 2471 02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:07,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that and that's cool too, 2472 02:11:07,560 --> 02:11:09,880 Speaker 1: I get that. But that's a place in the time 2473 02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:13,720 Speaker 1: for that. But every caress one said, why what you say? 2474 02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:17,680 Speaker 1: Because you attracted. So if that's what you're gonna do, 2475 02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:20,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of drug addess is gonna come to your show. 2476 02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:23,480 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm cautious. Like it's like I was downstairs 2477 02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:28,560 Speaker 1: just now. The dude came up to me. I can't 2478 02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:31,600 Speaker 1: get that's what I attracted, That's what I put out 2479 02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:33,720 Speaker 1: in this And I had to tell him. I said, listen, 2480 02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:36,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna stop this man. You're black. You need to 2481 02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:41,600 Speaker 1: put on some lotion on your hands. This naked hands horrible. 2482 02:11:42,160 --> 02:11:44,840 Speaker 1: He looked like he was just punching powder. And he 2483 02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:46,920 Speaker 1: just came to me like I told him, listen, we're 2484 02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:49,120 Speaker 1: gonna get you some lotion. It's the first thing we're 2485 02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:52,640 Speaker 1: gonna do before yourselfie. But that's what I meant by that. Man. Yeah, 2486 02:11:52,720 --> 02:11:55,880 Speaker 1: so we're good. Thank you so much. I'll take that 2487 02:11:55,960 --> 02:12:01,640 Speaker 1: CBS picture now break Up podcasts U