Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Calls with Dean Blandino, a production of
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Speaker 1: I'm Dean Blandino, joined by my producer wait for it,
Speaker 1: wait for it, Get ready to get awkward, Travis Hansen. Hello,
Speaker 1: how you doing today? Those are that? Was like, that's
Speaker 1: kind of sexy, right, it's his sexy boys and on
Speaker 1: audio Joe Madrid. I can't match a sexyness. What's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? Um? Joe's wearing you Obviously you can't see it,
Speaker 1: but Joe's wearing a Better days are coming? Sure? Is
Speaker 1: that a hugo Boss's sexy? Um? Better days are coming?
Speaker 1: Better days are coming? In twenty nineteen, all right, well
Speaker 1: it was. It was a challenging year for some Um,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Wild card weekend, it was a
Speaker 1: wild weekend. Uh, let's start with Sunday's games and obviously
Speaker 1: the play the everybody was talking about. And and I
Speaker 1: don't know what is going on with New Orleans, but
Speaker 1: it feels like the universe, you know, sometimes it feels
Speaker 1: like the universe is working in your favor. It feels
Speaker 1: like the universe is not working in in New Orleans
Speaker 1: favor right now with the Saints, with the way that
Speaker 1: game ended, this is three years in a row they lose.
Speaker 1: I think it's the treatment of Brett five in the bounty,
Speaker 1: but you feel like this is all karma back for
Speaker 1: they lose three years in a row. On the last
Speaker 1: play right there, the Minnesota whatever miracle. Then they lose
Speaker 1: on a on a field goal in overtime after obviously
Speaker 1: obviously after the missno call, dp I the miss call.
Speaker 1: And now they lose in overtime on a Kyle Rudolph
Speaker 1: touchdown or or was it? And and this was it
Speaker 1: was I have never I can't remember recent memory a
Speaker 1: a quieter ending to a football game to an exciting,
Speaker 1: an exciting way game ended. It was it was like
Speaker 1: funeral quiet. It seemed weird to me. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is very anti climactic. Doesn't seem like it was
Speaker 1: supposed to end. It's like something something supposed to happen here.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, like, could you imagine if the Saints had
Speaker 1: one that way, or if they were playing in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: would have been it would have been mayhem? But it
Speaker 1: was so quiet, and and then it was kind of
Speaker 1: like everybody stopped for a second and it was weird
Speaker 1: because now they're like, what are they waiting for? And
Speaker 1: they obviously showed it because you could tell they showed
Speaker 1: it in the stadium first because people reacted. And then
Speaker 1: and then we started to show it on on our
Speaker 1: broadcast and they started to show the replace. Now, look
Speaker 1: in real time, it didn't look like anything from the
Speaker 1: angle the live shot, it didn't look like anything. Look like, okay,
Speaker 1: touchdown he you know, Rudolph just got behind the defender
Speaker 1: and that was it. And then you start to look
Speaker 1: at the replaces and you go, wait a minute, this
Speaker 1: is something going on here. And it was funny because
Speaker 1: now everybody stops and it's over time. There's no extra point,
Speaker 1: there's nothing. They're just waiting to see what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Are they going to review it? Are they gonna and look,
Speaker 1: let's start with what happened. Rudolph extends his arms, clearly
Speaker 1: extends his arm into the into the defender. And I
Speaker 1: don't know what which defender was. I can't think of
Speaker 1: his name right now, but into the chest of the defender,
Speaker 1: clearly creating space to make the catch. It's past an ofference, Okay,
Speaker 1: it is offensive, pest inference. But now we get into
Speaker 1: the question of is it clear and obvious? Does it
Speaker 1: meet the standard it has to meet in replay? And
Speaker 1: I think it's just one of those plays. And I
Speaker 1: want to hear your guys take on it, but to me,
Speaker 1: it's one of those places where if the call is
Speaker 1: made on the field, it doesn't change, and the call
Speaker 1: is not made on the field and it doesn't change,
Speaker 1: and that is it's an It just doesn't feel good.
Speaker 1: It just it just it feels unsatisfactory very much. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: to me, it looked like there's some hand fighting going on,
Speaker 1: but there was. There was a clear extension of the arm.
Speaker 1: The elbow was completely locked and there was separation from Rudolph,
Speaker 1: and then he goes up and makes the play. I thought,
Speaker 1: I thought, for sure it should have been And here's
Speaker 1: what's happening. Here's what's happening in the replay booth, and
Speaker 1: in New York they're looking at it. And now there
Speaker 1: wasn't a replay right away because obviously it's the game
Speaker 1: winning touchdown. You want to show that reaction. You want
Speaker 1: to show the celebration, the fans, the agony, all of that,
Speaker 1: and so what's happening is you're looking at the live shot,
Speaker 1: you're running it back looking for you know it's a catch,
Speaker 1: you know that's not the issue. But now you're looking
Speaker 1: at contact, which has been obviously an added element this year,
Speaker 1: and then the replay start to come up. You don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of time. You don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of time um to to look at it because you
Speaker 1: know that that the game is in essence over and
Speaker 1: there's people on the field. It's gonna be tough to
Speaker 1: clear the field. So you've got to make a decision.
Speaker 1: And maybe ten seconds, am I gonna stop this and
Speaker 1: create a formal review or have I seen enough to
Speaker 1: say we're not going to change it, We're gonna move on.
Speaker 1: And uh. And it's interesting that they decided that they
Speaker 1: we're gonna change it. We're gonna move on and and
Speaker 1: I don't know if because I got I go both,
Speaker 1: I see it from both sides. I say, Okay, you
Speaker 1: want to at least give people there there, they're right there,
Speaker 1: time in court, right, you want to at least give
Speaker 1: them the process and say, all right, we we went
Speaker 1: through it. They didn't think there was enough to change it.
Speaker 1: At least we went through the process. But by by
Speaker 1: opening up that door, now you open up now all
Speaker 1: of the debate and all the question and all the
Speaker 1: back and forth. And are you saying by stopping the game,
Speaker 1: you're you're almost you're almost saying that you think there's
Speaker 1: something there but not enough, but not enough, and that
Speaker 1: it's just it's the It's the biggest challenge with this
Speaker 1: rule is is again, whatever they call on the field,
Speaker 1: And so it takes me back to years We've been
Speaker 1: doing it one way, right, we live with the call
Speaker 1: on the field, right, you know, and we move on
Speaker 1: and now we're trying to now we're trying to judicate
Speaker 1: this in replay, and it's really tough. But it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, and I know that our river run did
Speaker 1: did uh? Did have There was a pool report and Travis,
Speaker 1: you can read what what Al did say about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, we looked at it. We looked at all
Speaker 1: the angles that Fox afforded us, and Fox gave us
Speaker 1: some good some great views that there's contact by both players,
Speaker 1: but none of that contact rises to the level of
Speaker 1: a foul. This is consistent with what we've done all
Speaker 1: year long. We left the ruling on the field we
Speaker 1: let it stand. The rules just shouldn't be there, then
Speaker 1: it just needs to go so and and I think,
Speaker 1: and I just want to talk about al statement. I
Speaker 1: think that the the last two sentences, I agree, this
Speaker 1: is consistent with what they've done for the most part,
Speaker 1: and and they let it stand. I don't agree. I
Speaker 1: think I think you could probably ward that better because
Speaker 1: what he's saying is there's no foul right now. You
Speaker 1: I think there's a difference. And I think there's a
Speaker 1: difference between between saying there's no foul or there was
Speaker 1: not enough to create the foul and replay. And I
Speaker 1: think that's where at least that's where I would have
Speaker 1: went with it in the converse, in the in the discussion,
Speaker 1: but obviously because what they're saying is we didn't see
Speaker 1: a foul, and I disagree with that. I think it
Speaker 1: is a foul. Is it agreed tous as a flagrant No.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's so like you can't make it up,
Speaker 1: Like you can't make it up the states. If I'd
Speaker 1: have told you, Joe, put give me a line on
Speaker 1: the Saints losing this game and and and a questionable
Speaker 1: pass interference being involved on a on a walk off touchdown.
Speaker 1: What would have been the odds, like Buster Douglas. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, and maybe it is. Maybe Travis is right.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's karma for the whole bounty gate thing. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just think that we've been talking about
Speaker 1: all season long. If you're gonna if the enforced the rule,
Speaker 1: if it's p I, callp I, it's like it has
Speaker 1: to be a separate, different level of p I. If
Speaker 1: it's on replay, yeah, well, if it's egregious, the rest
Speaker 1: are gonna get it nine out of a hundred times,
Speaker 1: got it. They missed one big one last year, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna get all the egregious ones. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: put put in replay, start throwing the flags and make
Speaker 1: the players adjust, it is it is. I think there's
Speaker 1: one of two ways you can go. You can either
Speaker 1: get rid of it all together, or you just say,
Speaker 1: we're gonna reofficiate the play in replay. We're gonna forget
Speaker 1: about We're gonna forget about the call in the field,
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna reofficiate. That's what the colleges did
Speaker 1: with targeting. I don't mind we reofficiate the play and
Speaker 1: we just make a call. So I think that's that's
Speaker 1: that's really to me, those are the two likely the
Speaker 1: most likeliest of paths that the Okay, So here's the question.
Speaker 1: If you're still ahead officiating, do you want that flag
Speaker 1: thrown on field? Yeah, I would want that fleg from
Speaker 1: initially I want I would want the officials to get it.
Speaker 1: But since it didn't get called, you wouldn't have reversed.
Speaker 1: Not based on where the standard has been, not based
Speaker 1: on where the standard has been. No, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: But but if we're if we're gonna use replay to
Speaker 1: correct the officials mistakes, why because you're saying you wanted
Speaker 1: to be a foul. It's that's and that's the problem
Speaker 1: with reviewing these subjective calls. Because we can we can
Speaker 1: sit there and look at a look at a receiver's
Speaker 1: foot touching the sideline and make the passes incomplete. That's
Speaker 1: that's not you can't dispute that the foot was out
Speaker 1: of bounds. But when you're talking about subjective, subjective calls
Speaker 1: like past inference, yeah there was contact. Was there enough
Speaker 1: contact to to significantly hinder the defender in this instance?
Speaker 1: It's it's it's debatable. And it's to me that was
Speaker 1: very borderline egregious. I mean, he's he shoved the dude.
Speaker 1: It seemed that way to me, and and and I
Speaker 1: wanted Tonsota to win. But I love it's no, I know,
Speaker 1: I get it. So let's go. There are a couple
Speaker 1: of plays earlier in the game that had people talking.
Speaker 1: There was, um, you know, first quarter feeling fumbles. New
Speaker 1: Orleans recovers they had a review, but they missed a
Speaker 1: false start on the play, and that that goes back
Speaker 1: to you know, think about like sky Judge concept and
Speaker 1: whatever is that. Are we gonna officiate that from replay
Speaker 1: and say, well, they missed a false start, let's avoid
Speaker 1: out the entire play. Sometimes we just have to live
Speaker 1: with the officials call and they're gonna miss some. They
Speaker 1: don't miss a lot, but they are gonna miss some,
Speaker 1: and sometimes we just have to deal with it. But obviously,
Speaker 1: when you say that, it makes me instantly think of
Speaker 1: when the play clock is running out and it goes
Speaker 1: to zero and then you see the ball snapped, like
Speaker 1: then they're gonna shut that down if they had as
Speaker 1: the thing like we we we talked about that, it's
Speaker 1: not a shot clock like in basketball, it's not an
Speaker 1: exact you know, the moment the clock expires, it's over.
Speaker 1: You know, the back judge has to see the clock expire,
Speaker 1: look down. If the ball is being snapped at that point,
Speaker 1: there's no foul. So, um, it's impossible if we want
Speaker 1: to get if we want to officiate this game to
Speaker 1: that degree, I think people, I think we're gonna people
Speaker 1: are gonna see that it doesn't work. It just doesn't work.
Speaker 1: And that you know, it goes back to and there
Speaker 1: was a blind side block called on a on a
Speaker 1: New Orleans punt return and uh, and you know, and
Speaker 1: I think the blind stide block, and we'll get into it,
Speaker 1: and we talked about Buffalo Houston. I thought this was
Speaker 1: based on the rule. This was more of what the
Speaker 1: rules intended to get out, that type of blowout, blow
Speaker 1: up block. And uh, and the and the player lead
Speaker 1: with the with the shoulder made and made contact, forceable contact.
Speaker 1: It it occurred, it occurred during the kick, so it
Speaker 1: was properly enforced. It's enforced from the end of the kick.
Speaker 1: But um, then they had a they did a nice
Speaker 1: job with a helmet foul. They had a flag down
Speaker 1: for initiating contact with the helmet. They got together and
Speaker 1: picked that up. I really feel like replay was involved
Speaker 1: in that, and and that happens from time to time
Speaker 1: where the official story flag, they get together, they talk
Speaker 1: about it, and replay can see a rep uh you know,
Speaker 1: an angle and they say, hey, it's not a foul,
Speaker 1: pick it up, and and that happens. I think that's
Speaker 1: that kind of sky Judge concept that that happens from
Speaker 1: time to time. And then there was the ten second
Speaker 1: runoff deal at the end of the game, which was
Speaker 1: interesting because the Saints had a time out left and
Speaker 1: now you have they complete a pass, the clock is running.
Speaker 1: Now they have to make a decision. Do we run
Speaker 1: up to the line and spike or do we take
Speaker 1: a time out use our last time out? And what
Speaker 1: they chose to do, which which I get it. I
Speaker 1: get the logic playing for overtime play well, the play
Speaker 1: for overtime, but they're playing for you know, let's let's
Speaker 1: get the clock stopped and then keep our time out.
Speaker 1: But the the risk there's what happened. There was some confusion.
Speaker 1: They didn't get lined up. Not only eleven got set,
Speaker 1: so that's an illegal shift. But with the clock running
Speaker 1: inside two minutes, it becomes a false start because again
Speaker 1: the theory is, you snapped the ball before you were
Speaker 1: entitled to you can serve time. We're gonna take time
Speaker 1: off the clock mouse, So there was a runoff. Saints
Speaker 1: had an option. Defense could have declined the runoff. They're
Speaker 1: not going to do it in that situation. Saints had
Speaker 1: an option to either take a time out or take
Speaker 1: the runoff. They took the runoff, so went from one
Speaker 1: to eleven, and then they're gonna wind the clock on
Speaker 1: the ready for play. They end up throwing an incomplete pass,
Speaker 1: they kicked the field goal they had, they kept the
Speaker 1: time out in their pocket. But it's just it's an
Speaker 1: interesting situation. When we talked about those ten second run
Speaker 1: offs and why that rule is in place, and then
Speaker 1: and then and then to me, and I do, like,
Speaker 1: I want to get your guys thoughts on this. Like
Speaker 1: people again, any time, especially in a playoff game. We
Speaker 1: saw it last year with the FC Championship game. Any
Speaker 1: time the team that wins the toss gets the football
Speaker 1: and overtime and goes down and scores a touchdown, people
Speaker 1: complain about the every time. Every time people overtime we
Speaker 1: got we got robbed from seeing Drew Brees get the
Speaker 1: football and look, I get it. I I understand the
Speaker 1: desire to say, okay, let's let's match. You know, give
Speaker 1: them an opportunity. But they they have an opportunity, right
Speaker 1: And and when you think about overtime, and this is
Speaker 1: in my experience with the NFL, and this was always
Speaker 1: the conversation we talked about overtime. The main purpose of
Speaker 1: overtime is we want to decide a winner. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: number one al right. Post season overtime is different than
Speaker 1: regular season overtime. Right le season overtime ten minute period,
Speaker 1: it's over at the end of ten minutes. If the
Speaker 1: score is tied, it's tied. Whatever the score is. Even
Speaker 1: if even if the second team didn't get a possession
Speaker 1: and the first team kicks the field goal, it's over.
Speaker 1: In postseason, we start a new game, same rules in
Speaker 1: terms of each team having to have a possession if
Speaker 1: there's not a score, a touchdown or safety on the
Speaker 1: opening on the opening possession, but we play a new game,
Speaker 1: so we're going to decide a winner. So that's what
Speaker 1: it does. The second thing overtime has to do is
Speaker 1: maintained all three phases of the game, offense, defense, and
Speaker 1: special teams. That's what the NFL overtime does. The third
Speaker 1: thing that I feel is really important to an overtime
Speaker 1: system and and a lot of people around the NFL
Speaker 1: that's why we have this rule is maintain an element
Speaker 1: of sudden death to the game can end at any time.
Speaker 1: Okay the college and I like college overtime, it's not
Speaker 1: it's exciting, but it's not sudden death. The game cannot
Speaker 1: use the restroom. And while the first team the game
Speaker 1: cannot end on any play, in NFL the game can
Speaker 1: end on any play. And that those are the three
Speaker 1: things that I think the NFL overtime keeps. It keeps
Speaker 1: college overtime. You don't special teams are out right, you're
Speaker 1: getting the ball to you're going, yeah you can, you can.
Speaker 1: You have the field goal part, but there's no return game.
Speaker 1: There's there's none of that kick off, the opportunity for punts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's out And to me, that's what makes the NFL overtime.
Speaker 1: And you have an opportunity to stop if you're gonna
Speaker 1: allow how many drives, how many scoring drives are there
Speaker 1: during the game. Percentages tell me that that if they
Speaker 1: win the toss, right, they're gonna get stopped there on
Speaker 1: the odds are on my side on defense because because
Speaker 1: less than I don't know how many percentage of drives
Speaker 1: end into touchdowns, but you have five touchdowns a game, right,
Speaker 1: So so odds are on defense. I'm gonna stop you
Speaker 1: and get the football and and maybe have better field positions.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna play defense. And to me, I like
Speaker 1: the NFL overtime rule. I don't. I don't want them
Speaker 1: to change it. I get people being upset that Brees
Speaker 1: didn't get the football, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Play defense. I like it. I love the sudden death.
Speaker 1: You cannot you cannot get away from the TV. You can't,
Speaker 1: and that's that's what makes it exciting. I agree, agree,
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I think it could be a
Speaker 1: little bit better, but I mean your points are pretty valid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I play defense, play defense, play defense. I'm I'm look,
Speaker 1: I get it. It's not even that you're you have
Speaker 1: You're going against a stout offense. You know, Hey, Kirk
Speaker 1: cousins Man, this is his this is this his seminal moment,
Speaker 1: This is this is forget about when he was with
Speaker 1: Washington and you like that that's not and all the
Speaker 1: football this is you like, this is this is when
Speaker 1: he should be You like in that not not not
Speaker 1: back then was a huge upset. And the other part
Speaker 1: of that Rudolph touchdown is it was thrown by Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: So it's almost like it was a dream of a haze,
Speaker 1: a purple haze if you will, was over the stadium
Speaker 1: and it didn't seem like it was really unbelievable. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Let's let's transition to the other game on Sunday. See,
Speaker 1: I have a Philly not There wasn't a ton from
Speaker 1: this game, but still not without controversy. Carson Wentz hit
Speaker 1: early first quarter. Um, Daveon Clowney out for the game.
Speaker 1: Now you're playing with Josh mcnow. Nothing against Josh mcnow,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure Eagles and Eagles fans would want
Speaker 1: Carson in there in in the playoff game. Um, I
Speaker 1: think he was working for your ESPN at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the year. It's yeah, I mean, this guy has
Speaker 1: stuck around. I mean, this guy is like you see,
Speaker 1: he's the oldest player to make his debut in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, and he's played for how many teams? Ten
Speaker 1: teams or something ridiculous. Anyways, to the to the point though,
Speaker 1: is that Look to me, this was a foul. I
Speaker 1: I just think the officials missed it. I really do.
Speaker 1: I thought, Look, Whence is a runner, he's not defenseless.
Speaker 1: He's he's trying to go down. He goes down head first.
Speaker 1: He's not sliding to give himself up. He's going down
Speaker 1: head first. So he's not gonna get defensive player protection.
Speaker 1: But to me, Clowney clearly lowered his head and initiated
Speaker 1: forceable contact with the helmet. That's the use of helmet rule.
Speaker 1: I thought it was even close to your traditional spear
Speaker 1: with the very top of the helmet. But to me,
Speaker 1: it was a foul. Um it. It kind of begs
Speaker 1: the question, Look, whether the officials call it or not,
Speaker 1: it's not going to change the fact that Wentz was
Speaker 1: out for the game. Right, So so do you then
Speaker 1: need to start talking about the college targeting rule. College,
Speaker 1: he's gone for the game, right, if they go into
Speaker 1: the they deemed that targeting. Yeah, he's gone for the game.
Speaker 1: And so it just I don't think this play or
Speaker 1: I don't think the NFL should go there. But I
Speaker 1: do think this will generate that type of discussion because
Speaker 1: I remember having discussions there were clubs when there was
Speaker 1: a play that the player was injured and it was
Speaker 1: deemed illegal and they were gonna either find or suspend
Speaker 1: that player. There were some clubs that said, hey, he
Speaker 1: should that player that that hurt our player. He should
Speaker 1: be out as long as our injured player was. You
Speaker 1: know that type of deal, which is it's tough, that's
Speaker 1: tough to to manage and tough to you know, do
Speaker 1: you if it's your you know, third string wide receiver,
Speaker 1: do you just put him on I R and it's there,
Speaker 1: you know J J. Watt he's out for the year.
Speaker 1: But it's just there could be like a maximum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think it did. It did at least pop
Speaker 1: up for me that that he's out went is out
Speaker 1: of the game, regardless of whether the call is made.
Speaker 1: There's not nothing bringing him back if he's deemed out
Speaker 1: for the game. It's just, you know, do you then
Speaker 1: have to think about ejections and not that I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was I didn't think it was malicious or
Speaker 1: dirty per se. I just did think I thought it
Speaker 1: was a foul. I really did. And I was surprised
Speaker 1: that that they didn't get the call. I know, they
Speaker 1: had a pool report and they mentioned that the contact
Speaker 1: was incidental. Um And and I, I mean, I disagree
Speaker 1: with that because basically what you're saying is is that
Speaker 1: it's not a foul. And and if it were me,
Speaker 1: you know, I would I would I would probably lean
Speaker 1: towards look in the officials view in real time they
Speaker 1: deemed the contact was incidental. We're gonna look at it,
Speaker 1: review it with all available resources, and make a determination
Speaker 1: and let let the clubs know, you know what what
Speaker 1: what our ultimate decision is. So learned on the slide, Yeah,
Speaker 1: on this a couple of years ago, no question. And
Speaker 1: I think, look, he's he's still he's a young quarterback still,
Speaker 1: and I think we've got a lot of good young
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this league that you know, the guy that
Speaker 1: impressed me, um, you know about the guy that that
Speaker 1: I watched this year, that he knows when to get
Speaker 1: down because he runs a lot as Kyler Murray. And
Speaker 1: I mean Kyler Murray knows you know, he's a baseball player,
Speaker 1: and and and he Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson doesn't because
Speaker 1: it does a nice job. You look at some guys
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, you know, been around and and uh so
Speaker 1: it's it's good to see another down. That's and it's
Speaker 1: the rule. That's a Travis to say. On that note,
Speaker 1: let's go to break with a Travis. All Right, we
Speaker 1: come back. We'll break down the other games from Saturday.
Speaker 1: A lot to talk about in Buffalo Houston and is
Speaker 1: this the end of the dynasty in New England? Next
Speaker 1: on good calls. All right, we're back on good calls.
Speaker 1: We talked Sunday already. Let's go back in time and
Speaker 1: talk Saturday Buffalo, Houston or Houston Ust. This game was crazy.
Speaker 1: This game was insane. And I want to know, like
Speaker 1: in the thirty for thirty about Josh Allen in twenty years,
Speaker 1: whenever it is, this game is gonna be like what
Speaker 1: what whatever? What was he on in this What was
Speaker 1: he thinking? Well, the one player that stands out to
Speaker 1: me was the one he pitched going down like that.
Speaker 1: That's like the last play of the game. Pitch and
Speaker 1: they were they that would have been a first down
Speaker 1: where he had the ball already and he pitched the ball.
Speaker 1: He could not have It could not have worked out
Speaker 1: better for the stupidity. But it's like I get it,
Speaker 1: Like he's young and he's trying to make a play,
Speaker 1: but that's just because it went backward. Okay, and then
Speaker 1: the bat smart play they batted it backward out of
Speaker 1: bound because that would have been a foul, there would
Speaker 1: have been a runoff, it would have been in. That
Speaker 1: was crazy. But he's gonna be like he's he's got
Speaker 1: all the tools. I mean, he's got talked about when
Speaker 1: it's not slide, he can slide, he can run. But
Speaker 1: he was just I mean, but this game had a
Speaker 1: little bit of everything and some things that that we
Speaker 1: probably haven't seen. So there was a pass inference review
Speaker 1: early Texans um they wanted past inference. I think it
Speaker 1: was DeAndre Hopkins that that there was some contact early
Speaker 1: and uh, but not enough to create the folon replay.
Speaker 1: But really the one play that I think I had
Speaker 1: not seen it was it's the it's the opening kick
Speaker 1: off of the third quarter of the second half. Lisassaulters
Speaker 1: is doing her her her on air um whatever we
Speaker 1: want to call it, and it's like a it's like
Speaker 1: a nothing touch back, and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: officials are ruling touchdown. And I thought testator, I thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna jump out of it. He was screaming
Speaker 1: they were either going to make this a touchdown, right,
Speaker 1: and what did Karenny do? And what should he have done?
Speaker 1: So okay, so the rule says, look, I get it.
Speaker 1: The rule says, the player gives himself up by taking
Speaker 1: a knee or sliding or going to the ground and
Speaker 1: making no media attempt to advance. He didn't do any
Speaker 1: of the those things. But you you've seen I've seen
Speaker 1: this before. So the player, the returner um he think Carter.
Speaker 1: He he gives the he puts both arms out. He
Speaker 1: extends both arms. That's a signal to his his blockers
Speaker 1: that I'm not bringing the ball out. So so that
Speaker 1: that saves. That's a signal the teams used to save
Speaker 1: on those collisions. Look, not bringing it out. Relax, don't
Speaker 1: try to engage, don't don't let's not risk anything. He
Speaker 1: does that, he catches the ball, He takes a couple
Speaker 1: of steps and he's clearly not trying to advance it
Speaker 1: and he flips the ball to the referee to Kranni.
Speaker 1: Now Cornni just Correni wanted no part of it. It
Speaker 1: was like hot potato. Karnis like, nope, I'm no not
Speaker 1: gonna touch me ball. It's the ground, buffalo falls on
Speaker 1: it and they signal touchdown. And it was interesting because
Speaker 1: you know, John Parry, who's on the ESPN former referee,
Speaker 1: did a nice job talking about common sense and and
Speaker 1: this is something that we've seen and the runners clearly
Speaker 1: not trying to advance the football, and the alternate officials
Speaker 1: actually got in and this is something alternate officials can do.
Speaker 1: You only have alternates. We talked about it last week
Speaker 1: for the postseason. There's actually four. Used to be three
Speaker 1: for the for the first three rounds wild Card Divisional
Speaker 1: Championship used to be three. Now it's four. In their
Speaker 1: new CBA, they negotiated a fourth alternate official and so
Speaker 1: those officials are on the sideline. You'll see them coming
Speaker 1: up in the games on Saturday and Sunday and they're
Speaker 1: wearing they're wearing an officials uniform, but they're wearing a
Speaker 1: black jacket. So there. I think it was Camp, right,
Speaker 1: Alex Camp Mark Stein Kirschner was another one, and so
Speaker 1: they can't. They don't have flag responsibility. They can't throw
Speaker 1: a flag, but they can get involved in in something administrative.
Speaker 1: They can get involved in the clock and this was
Speaker 1: certainly something administrative. They came in, they immediately had a discussion,
Speaker 1: and they ultimately decided the right thing. And this was
Speaker 1: a touchback because even even if you make it a
Speaker 1: live ball by rule, it can't be a touchdown because
Speaker 1: he actually threw a forward pass. You can't throw a
Speaker 1: forward pass, as that would be an illegal forward pass,
Speaker 1: not from scrimmage. Yeah, it's an illegal FOURD pass. As
Speaker 1: soon as the ball hits the ground, it's dead and
Speaker 1: it's actually it's a foul in their own end zone.
Speaker 1: It's safety safety not not a touchdown. So it could
Speaker 1: have never been a touchdown. The best Buffalo could have
Speaker 1: done was gotten the safety out of it. But again
Speaker 1: common sense, and this is one of the points I
Speaker 1: want to make about if if we want the language
Speaker 1: and the rule book to to be explicit on every
Speaker 1: potential situation that could come up, the rules, the rule
Speaker 1: book would be a thousand pages. This kind of reminded
Speaker 1: me of the Dack thing and what was assumed in
Speaker 1: what actually happened like that's kind of like, yeah, which
Speaker 1: the dacka the coin flip this gant? I did you
Speaker 1: have to give some again, not every situation. I think
Speaker 1: sometimes you can't. If if a player is going to
Speaker 1: do something stupid, sometimes you can't save them. But I
Speaker 1: think common sense and you allow the officials discretion in
Speaker 1: certain situation rations because you can't write out every potential thing.
Speaker 1: The rule book is already and we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the the Tennessee, New England game and how the rule
Speaker 1: is gonna change because of what happened in that game,
Speaker 1: and and and others previously. But they got together and
Speaker 1: they got it right. It's a touchback. Now watch watch
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. The language in the book is gonna.
Speaker 1: They're gonna add something to say if a player, you know,
Speaker 1: makes no obvious attempt to advance the ball, regardless of
Speaker 1: taking a knee or anything, they're gonna they're gonna at
Speaker 1: the officials discretion, whatever it is. So I guarantee you
Speaker 1: there will be some language added to the book, not
Speaker 1: not a rule change, but an edit that will cover
Speaker 1: this situation. And so the rule book goes from six
Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy three thousand, four hundred fifty two
Speaker 1: words to four fifty three words. But anyway, um, so
Speaker 1: that happens. Then then you have the play, the Beasley play,
Speaker 1: and near the end of the fourth quarter was crazy
Speaker 1: because it was you weren't sure what was ruled on
Speaker 1: the field because they didn't change the down marker still
Speaker 1: said fourth down, but actually ruled first down. Um. Buffalo
Speaker 1: was out of time outs, and they ruled Beasley caught
Speaker 1: the ball. He was on a knee, he dove and
Speaker 1: it was close initially, so I get them stopping it.
Speaker 1: Crony comes out and says the ruling on the field
Speaker 1: of the first down. His stands and and we move on.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of discussion, well was he short?
Speaker 1: He actually wasn't short. He Beasley caught the ball, his
Speaker 1: knee hit the ground prior to contact, and then his
Speaker 1: knee came off the ground. Then the defender contacted him
Speaker 1: and then he lunged forward, so he did get to
Speaker 1: the line of game. It was just an interesting play
Speaker 1: because it had a lot of people talking. But then
Speaker 1: I think the play, other than the kickoff play, I
Speaker 1: think the play that had everybody talking was the blindside block.
Speaker 1: And this was in overtime. The Bills, Um, both teams
Speaker 1: have had a possession for the for you possession people.
Speaker 1: Both teams had a possession, so um, but the Bills
Speaker 1: were in and they were in Texan territory. It was
Speaker 1: a second now play. Alan Alan ran to the Texans
Speaker 1: thirty eight yard line. So at that point, if they
Speaker 1: didn't gain another yard, it would have been a fifty
Speaker 1: six yard try. Joe knows he can he can make that.
Speaker 1: He's no easy fifty and half that. So and but
Speaker 1: we had a blindside block on Cody Ford and and
Speaker 1: and I think there were a couple you know, this
Speaker 1: play got a lot of attention, and and Travis you
Speaker 1: can read, I know Terry mcaualley chimed in, Pereira chimed in,
Speaker 1: and what what were their takes on it? Yeah, McAuley said,
Speaker 1: the players blocking towards his own end line. But the
Speaker 1: very subjective question would be does he makes forcible contact
Speaker 1: with the shoulder? And they said, based on what I've
Speaker 1: seen called and not called this year, I would have
Speaker 1: to say it is not. So McAuley didn't go so
Speaker 1: far to say that it clearly wasn't a foul he
Speaker 1: went more of the path of what we've seen called
Speaker 1: and not called this year and right. But Pereira had
Speaker 1: a little bit of a stronger take. Yeah, he said,
Speaker 1: I think the call is in correct. He doesn't lead
Speaker 1: with his shoulder or head, he pushes him. It is
Speaker 1: a bad call, bad rule. So I I disagree with
Speaker 1: Mike on that, on that take. I think that look,
Speaker 1: I I think if you look at the rule this,
Speaker 1: it's it's impossible to look at the rule the language
Speaker 1: in the book and say and say this is clearly
Speaker 1: an incorrect call. You can't because he's moving back towards
Speaker 1: his own goal line. He does lead with the shoulder,
Speaker 1: he extends the arms afterward, and so technically, by by
Speaker 1: the definition letter of the law, you can't say it's incorrect. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is the intent of the rule change.
Speaker 1: I think the rule change was put in to get
Speaker 1: rid of the blow up block, to get rid of
Speaker 1: the d the d cleader, the change of direction play,
Speaker 1: the play where the receiver's peeling back on the defender
Speaker 1: and the defender can't protect himself or the quarterback Dowor's interception,
Speaker 1: and get the return play. We have the return play
Speaker 1: the the kick return, the punt return. That's what the
Speaker 1: rule was put in, So it's not a bad rule.
Speaker 1: I just don't think this is the intent of the
Speaker 1: rule when you have an offensive lineman who really did
Speaker 1: not have a It wasn't like he had this long
Speaker 1: run and line this guy up. He was on the ground,
Speaker 1: he had just cut somebody. He got up, he took
Speaker 1: a couple of steps and just try to get his
Speaker 1: body between the defender and Alan and you see that
Speaker 1: from time to time. I don't like the call. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's the intent of the rule, and I
Speaker 1: think it's more of just a tweak to the rule
Speaker 1: in terms of saying, maybe it doesn't apply in close
Speaker 1: line play. This was just outside the tackle box. So
Speaker 1: you'd have to look at the language and say this
Speaker 1: is you know, is this a call we want? Is
Speaker 1: this fifteen yards? Is this a player's safety issue? And uh,
Speaker 1: and then fashion the language to to carve out an exception.
Speaker 1: I hate exceptions. Again. I just talked about the rule
Speaker 1: book getting longer and more complicated. This would do that.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like the intent of the rule
Speaker 1: was not this block and and it ends up being
Speaker 1: a big who knows. Look, if if they don't gain
Speaker 1: another yard, are they even like how has been lights out?
Speaker 1: But are they even attempting a fifty a fifty six
Speaker 1: yard or in that situation maybe, but there's risk there.
Speaker 1: Who knows, Who knows what would have happened. Third down,
Speaker 1: they don't get any they got a punt, and they
Speaker 1: obviously end up losing the game. But but it it
Speaker 1: was you know, it's a big call in the game,
Speaker 1: and I think it's a larger discussion about the rule itself. Um,
Speaker 1: let's go to New England, Tennessee, New England, and and
Speaker 1: this was not a lot in terms of officiating, but
Speaker 1: what we did see and if man this is so,
Speaker 1: you have Mike Rabel who played for Bill Belichick. Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick did this against the Jets this year. If Rabel
Speaker 1: actually did it against the Texans in Week seventeen, this
Speaker 1: is a situation where you're outside five minutes of the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. So think about this. Here's the rule. After
Speaker 1: a foul, whether that foul is accepted or declined, alright,
Speaker 1: the clock goes to wherever it was. If the foul
Speaker 1: is the only thing that stopped the clock, right, you
Speaker 1: have a running clock there's fourteen minutes to go in
Speaker 1: the first quarter, we have a hold, the hold is enforced,
Speaker 1: and then the clock will wind on the ready. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's how it works. Inside of two minutes of the
Speaker 1: second quarter and inside five minutes of the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: after a foul penalty accepted or decline, the clock always
Speaker 1: goes on the snap, unless we're inside two minutes and
Speaker 1: there's a ten second runoff potential, there is a defensive foul.
Speaker 1: Defensive foul that prevents the snap with the clock running
Speaker 1: inside two minutes. That would be a wine situation. So
Speaker 1: we're outside five minutes, Tennessee's ahead, they're gonna punt, So
Speaker 1: what do they do. Clock is running, They take a
Speaker 1: delay on the play clock. They were five, they false start,
Speaker 1: All right, we saw this now. They were warned after
Speaker 1: that that the next one would be on sportsman like conduct.
Speaker 1: Belichick was upset, and I think Bill was was just
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that they understood because they did
Speaker 1: it to him when when he when he um did
Speaker 1: it against the Jets, that it was gonna be on
Speaker 1: sportsman like if they did it a third time. He
Speaker 1: didn't do it a third time. But the problem with
Speaker 1: this and it's smart. It's smart within the current construct
Speaker 1: of the rule. But the problem with this is we
Speaker 1: had at the at the end, at the end of
Speaker 1: the of the third down play, Okay, I think there
Speaker 1: was six thirty six on the clock and and yeah,
Speaker 1: at the end of the play though, right, I think
Speaker 1: there was six thirty six on the clock. The fourth
Speaker 1: down snap takes place at Okay, I went back and
Speaker 1: watched it. That's that's a minute forty five seconds of
Speaker 1: game clock with no football. That's bad. That you can't
Speaker 1: smart for the team. And there's some risks there. There's
Speaker 1: some risk there too. Oh, they're only have one so
Speaker 1: it could have backfired. New England could have taken the
Speaker 1: lead and then they need that time back. So I
Speaker 1: don't love it. Up one, it ended up working out
Speaker 1: because they kept the lead, but you know, up by up,
Speaker 1: that's up by two scores for got it. That's perfect.
Speaker 1: But a minute forty five game clock with no football
Speaker 1: in the most most exciting critical part of the game,
Speaker 1: that's not good for the game. And I think there's
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that have to be looked at.
Speaker 1: You know, do you give you know, do you give
Speaker 1: the after the second foul. Is it automatically on the snap?
Speaker 1: Do you give the offended team the option to go
Speaker 1: on the snap? There's things that you could do, um
Speaker 1: to UH to prevent that. The current rule does say
Speaker 1: if you take two delay games in a row would
Speaker 1: be on sportsmanlike. Obviously they circumvented that by going delay
Speaker 1: game fall start. It was just interesting to see Vrabel
Speaker 1: do it to the you know, the pupil doing it
Speaker 1: to the teacher and UH and and it was just
Speaker 1: interesting to see that because that's something obviously New England
Speaker 1: had done prior in the year. And and the only
Speaker 1: thing that that came up. You had mentioned Travis about
Speaker 1: the the illegal formation late in the game. Tennessee is
Speaker 1: trying to run out the clock and and they get
Speaker 1: called for an illegal formation. And that's a big penalty
Speaker 1: because we were inside five minutes. That's the time out.
Speaker 1: That penalty, whether they accepted or decline it, it's a
Speaker 1: time out. It was a good call because seventy seven
Speaker 1: the left tackle was uncovered and they end up with
Speaker 1: um no no eligible player on the line outside of
Speaker 1: the tackle, So you can't have a tackle on the
Speaker 1: end of the line unless he reports, so it was
Speaker 1: a good call. But you know, the bigger question, nonofficia
Speaker 1: and related, is this the end of the Is this
Speaker 1: the end of the dynasty? Have we seen? Have we
Speaker 1: seen the last? As Tom Brady going to retire? And
Speaker 1: I think no, and I think we all agree no, knowing,
Speaker 1: knowing what I know of Tom Brady, he's not going
Speaker 1: out like that. No, not with a pick six? Is
Speaker 1: six as his last as the last past, He's not
Speaker 1: going out like that. Will he played for the Pats?
Speaker 1: Will he played for the Pats? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think that's that's that's the less definitive, you know answer.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, because obviously he's an numberstricted
Speaker 1: free agent. They can't franchise him. Uh So to be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how that plays out. But there's been
Speaker 1: reports from Glazer saying he's not going to take the
Speaker 1: hometown discount this time around. This is essentially his last
Speaker 1: contract he's gonna get. Yeah. Yeah, And so you know,
Speaker 1: I think back to like remember and I think and
Speaker 1: I think Tom is playing at a higher level. But
Speaker 1: I think back when Derek Jeter left the Yankees, there
Speaker 1: was you know that that last contract, there there was
Speaker 1: some hard feelings because Jeter wasn't the player that he
Speaker 1: once was and he wasn't gonna give him a hometown
Speaker 1: discount either. And Kobe too in this is Kobe Jr.
Speaker 1: Over here, Joe, you know the first time keep Kobe
Speaker 1: Kobe pick out of franchise in a bad position, got
Speaker 1: Mitch cup Check fired years later. Wow, I just said
Speaker 1: we ever talked about the first time I met Joe,
Speaker 1: how he was wearing a full Lakers jersey, Kobe jersey
Speaker 1: full not you're not jersey uniform, shorts and the headband
Speaker 1: and the headband. Talk about douchebag Kobe didn't wear a
Speaker 1: headband though, Tell him what day it was though it
Speaker 1: was Game seven of the finals against the self in
Speaker 1: a lifetime, I don't care if it was. There's no
Speaker 1: justification for a grown man wearing the entire uniform. I
Speaker 1: don't care what game it was, Game seven, Laker Self.
Speaker 1: It's that brings me to the question of how you
Speaker 1: didn't have bothers me, you know, bothers me and I
Speaker 1: know we're going off subject here, but the bicyclists that
Speaker 1: were the full on gear, like they're on, like they're
Speaker 1: part of the tea. Yeah, like they're everywhere everywhere around here,
Speaker 1: and they're the equivalent of the guys showing up to
Speaker 1: play pick up basketball in the full uniform, like in
Speaker 1: the full uniform with the powder and doing the lebron like, who,
Speaker 1: I don't get it? Go bike riding? Why do you
Speaker 1: have to wear You're not look Penn's oil isn't or whoever.
Speaker 1: They're not promoting you. They're not sponsaid for that. You
Speaker 1: paid for that, whatever you call those things. This is
Speaker 1: the best is when it's the dude is like super
Speaker 1: out of shape and it's just he's in it. Though,
Speaker 1: Like I I can appreciate them going out. I can
Speaker 1: appreciate them. I'm all for it. I can't stand them.
Speaker 1: It's just I don't they take up that when they're
Speaker 1: in the lane. You know, my gosh, all you cyclists
Speaker 1: out there, you gotta pick. You're either gonna be a
Speaker 1: bike or you're gonna be all. Can't be can't be both?
Speaker 1: Don't running stop sign and then you can't be both.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be a whistle, thank you. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna be a car, you gotta stop when cars stop.
Speaker 1: You have to. You can't. I see him too much. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm a car, I have the right of the lane,
Speaker 1: and then they sign side lights. No, you can't have
Speaker 1: it both way here, you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1: Brady's coming back. I'm not sure it's gonna be with
Speaker 1: the pay who would be a good chargers people are
Speaker 1: so it's all speculation. It's a speculation, Indie the Bears,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, these are teams. Who knows. But
Speaker 1: anyway we have Tom Brady's not retiring, but no chance.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's take a break and when we
Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna talk. We'll talk a little XFL,
Speaker 1: we'll talk a little CFP and UH, and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about Joe's choice of attire on Rodeo Drive next difficult,
Speaker 1: what's funny? It's the last segment. You know, I ain't
Speaker 1: cutting this, So what's your problem? We're back. I'm good. Calls.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just hadn't thought, um, Joe going
Speaker 1: right into this. Let's let's go okay, Sorry, I just
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just had this this thought of Joe.
Speaker 1: In Beverly Hills, we went, um, I went watch shopping
Speaker 1: and he had to drop off a watch to get
Speaker 1: some service and we went watch shopping in Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: and he was wearing He shows up wearing I showed
Speaker 1: up in Santa Monica velvet jumpsuit, the lower jumpsuit full
Speaker 1: head to tell the lord, jumpsuit with these glasses, these sunglasses.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you were going for the look.
Speaker 1: But it was like the video. Did anyone post that? No,
Speaker 1: it was we we should post it. It was it
Speaker 1: was like night at the Roxbury. It was you know,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of compliments. Who are you hanging
Speaker 1: out with that? You're getting comple who know fashion? I
Speaker 1: clear Dr Pepper shirt. Yeah, I'm wearing a Dr Pepper shirt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm sitting in my own home and relaxing doing
Speaker 1: the podcast. Dude, that's a nice sweatsuit. It is. It's
Speaker 1: very nice. I love it was soft, right, it was
Speaker 1: very soft. It looked very comfortable. It was you go boss.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, you go boss. So maybe anyway, and I
Speaker 1: think I did send Yeah, you sent me to trying.
Speaker 1: I sent Travis the video of Joe walking down drive.
Speaker 1: Dean followed me around like I'm like, like he was
Speaker 1: a celebrity and it was on him around. You have
Speaker 1: to be a celebrity or something that is as I said, like,
Speaker 1: you're like, well, what level, like like D D level?
Speaker 1: That day, I remember you, Yeah, were on. I did
Speaker 1: move him up. I moved him up to a D
Speaker 1: because of the acknowledged by any he was watch shopping
Speaker 1: on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills. So I'm like, you
Speaker 1: you're now a D list celebrity. I need to come
Speaker 1: out because that's what I was saying. I got fomo
Speaker 1: not being out with you. I got to change that
Speaker 1: on my Instagram D level, D level. He did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so over over the weekend he also sorry we cut that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not cutting where we talked about cutting?
Speaker 1: What do you what's the question? The question XFL? Well,
Speaker 1: you know it's funny because it's not. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: been working consulting with the XFL for a while now
Speaker 1: and helping them develop their rules and putting together in
Speaker 1: officiating staff, and they did just you know, they they're
Speaker 1: making more announcements as the seasons coming up, and I
Speaker 1: know Pro Football Talk put out a you know, a
Speaker 1: post about it, and uh yeah, So I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the head of the officiating UM basically helping
Speaker 1: them put together the staff, the rules, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be I'm excited about it. I'm excited about just being
Speaker 1: a part of that. And I think there's gonna be some, um,
Speaker 1: some really interesting and innovative ways to you know, looking
Speaker 1: at the rules and the game and and the pace,
Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna see, you know, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be kickoffs are gonna look different. I think over time
Speaker 1: is gonna be different. You know, you're gonna have um tries.
Speaker 1: So the kickoff is gonna be. The kickoff is gonna be.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have ten players of the kicking team stationary
Speaker 1: at the plus thirty five so at the return teams
Speaker 1: thirty five yard line, and then ten teams ten players
Speaker 1: in the return team at the thirty so they're five
Speaker 1: yards apart, and you have a kicker deep and you
Speaker 1: have a returner deep, and the kicker kicks off, and
Speaker 1: the twenty players, the blockers and the coverage team. They
Speaker 1: can't leave the restraining line until the ball is either
Speaker 1: touched or if it hits the ground after three seconds,
Speaker 1: and so I think, you know, the idea is to
Speaker 1: eliminate some of those high speed collisions and those high
Speaker 1: velocity velocity collisions and make it more like a scrimmage
Speaker 1: play and close proximity blocking and uh and so over time,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really cool where you're gonna
Speaker 1: have it's kind of gonna be like a soccer um,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, kicks and and and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: you know, right now, either into the field and you're
Speaker 1: gonna have each team is gonna have five tries from
Speaker 1: the five yard line. Each trial was worth two points,
Speaker 1: and you go one on one side, one on the other,
Speaker 1: and whoever scores the most points in five wins and
Speaker 1: uh and you keep you if you're tied after five,
Speaker 1: you go one for one and uh and so it's
Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting. I think it's gonna be exciting.
Speaker 1: And then and then I think from a scoring perspective,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting with them sold on. So each
Speaker 1: team gets five plays from their five yard line. That's
Speaker 1: overtime from the opponent's five yard on lift. So it
Speaker 1: goes I get five, you get five, or it goes
Speaker 1: one on one one. So they're both lined up, So
Speaker 1: got the defense on one side, How are you gonna
Speaker 1: place the officials on that. Well that that's the challenge,
Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna have so you'll have four officials,
Speaker 1: there's a total for the normal game, you have four
Speaker 1: on each side, and you also have the replay official
Speaker 1: that can help out. UM still looking at at their
Speaker 1: training camps coming up in Houston, and uh they're gonna
Speaker 1: have some preseason game better and and I know Houston,
Speaker 1: and UH, we're gonna try some different things. So it's
Speaker 1: just really cool to be a part of that process
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, let's let's see how this
Speaker 1: works or let's do and the goal is the goal
Speaker 1: is going to be pace of play and to keep
Speaker 1: the game moving, second play clock with a ball spotter,
Speaker 1: So eight officials and then just one dedicated ball spotter
Speaker 1: that's gonna put the ball down one the clock and
Speaker 1: uh and the other thing I think is cool is
Speaker 1: going to be the tries. And they're gonna have a
Speaker 1: one point try, a two point try, and a way
Speaker 1: for it three point try, three point try one one.
Speaker 1: You get one. If you go from the two yard line,
Speaker 1: you get too. If you go from the five yard line,
Speaker 1: you get three. If you go from the ten yardline.
Speaker 1: So the nine point game is no longer to score games.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be really interesting to see how the
Speaker 1: coaches do that and uh and and how they how
Speaker 1: they you know, do they always go for two from
Speaker 1: the five? Do they? You know? When when that when
Speaker 1: will that three point try? And I think that's gonna have,
Speaker 1: you know, be interesting from a gambling perspective too. With
Speaker 1: the scoring, it's gonna be tough to for thesmakers. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be correct. It's just a different it's just a
Speaker 1: different deal. And these are all there's no pet are all,
Speaker 1: there's no kick tries. It's all so it's one from
Speaker 1: the how far? Tell us again? One from the one,
Speaker 1: from the two, two from the five, three from the ten.
Speaker 1: That's cool, it would be fun. That's interesting. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: you know, do you just like signal to the official
Speaker 1: and like yeah, they elect, okay, we're going one, two
Speaker 1: or three. They put them all down and we go
Speaker 1: and uh and so I think that's gonna be it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. It's gonna be fun
Speaker 1: to see how it how it all plays out. Nobody
Speaker 1: why go for one? There's never a reason to go
Speaker 1: for one. I don't think the only Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: most teams, at least you look at I think most
Speaker 1: teams will probably go for two and they'll only go
Speaker 1: for three unless they need it if it makes sense
Speaker 1: score wise. One. I I can one. If the game
Speaker 1: is tied, I think maybe you go for one. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how it how it plays.
Speaker 1: There's a pick uh interception and then return for that
Speaker 1: to whatever whatever they were offense was going for the defense.
Speaker 1: And then what about aren't they um putting ropes around
Speaker 1: the field? Oh Joe, that was awful. Come on, that
Speaker 1: was good that that was that? It was the rest
Speaker 1: wrote from the field. Yeah, there you go, boy, Travis.
Speaker 1: I would expect it j to come up with that,
Speaker 1: but no, there will will be no ropes on the field.
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's shift gears. Let's talk about the college
Speaker 1: football Championship game. Travis is Travis, Who's gonna win? I
Speaker 1: actually think you've been on clips stop now. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I am and and I wish I wish
Speaker 1: I could say that I think Clemson's gonna win. I
Speaker 1: just think ELS's a better team. But I do like
Speaker 1: that they're in there and they get to you know,
Speaker 1: at least defend their their time. You do like that,
Speaker 1: You like the fact that I like that they're there.
Speaker 1: Everything's rights. Whoever won the championship gets to defend their title,
Speaker 1: So why not? What don't play the seats? You're still no, no, no.
Speaker 1: If you're undefeated and you've won it like you should,
Speaker 1: you should have been the number one seats, all right.
Speaker 1: So Clemson h L s U. It's gonna be I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a great game. I'm like, I'm excited. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know the game being in New Orleans with L
Speaker 1: s U, I would imagine it would be a very
Speaker 1: pro L s U crowd, But it's it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I think I like L s U.
Speaker 1: But I don't think you can count out Clemson just
Speaker 1: because of I think Trevor Lawrence is is. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he I think he stepped up big time
Speaker 1: against so how State, and I think that he could
Speaker 1: he could do it again. A long touchdown run, he had,
Speaker 1: any moment, could could score from anywhere. I think I
Speaker 1: just hoping it's going to be a good close. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be New Oran is gonna be crazy that week.
Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be nuts. Um let's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about who do you guys
Speaker 1: think is gonna win the game? I think they cover
Speaker 1: two five and a half spread. Um, So the Golden
Speaker 1: Globes were someday and there was a lot of I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw social media about Ricky
Speaker 1: Gervais and his monologue and things, you know, and he says,
Speaker 1: and I look, I I've always been a fan because
Speaker 1: I think Ricky Gervais just doesn't give an f right
Speaker 1: and he just says what's on. And if you may not, yeah,
Speaker 1: you may not like him or or or hate him,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't deny the guy is talented. You
Speaker 1: look at I mean the office, you look at all
Speaker 1: the shows, all the things that he's done. Um, I
Speaker 1: mean there's just go and watch it. Was the show
Speaker 1: was called Life Is Sure on h three and and
Speaker 1: he had these shows, him and Stephen Merchant and they
Speaker 1: didn't last very long on HBO, but they were so good.
Speaker 1: And there's a scene just just YouTube it where where
Speaker 1: this is about? This is about um Warwick. Uh, I
Speaker 1: can't think of his last name, but war Warwick. He's
Speaker 1: a he's an actor. He's a little person and he's
Speaker 1: been in Harry Potter, he was in Return of the Jedi,
Speaker 1: and it's about his life as a as a actor.
Speaker 1: And he's yeah, so so Wark Davis. So he's um
Speaker 1: and he's friends with Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant on
Speaker 1: the show. And there's a scene where he goes to
Speaker 1: their office and Liam Neeson shows up and Liam Neeson
Speaker 1: wants to do comedy and it is one of the
Speaker 1: funniest scenes you will ever see. It's one of the
Speaker 1: best written scenes with Liam Neeson. Just YouTube it, trust
Speaker 1: me and watch Liam Neeson on Life is Short? Too Short?
Speaker 1: Is too short? Right? Life's too short? Um, And trust me.
Speaker 1: I can't get into it, but trust me, just watch it.
Speaker 1: So Ricky Gervais like I love made him and so
Speaker 1: he said a lot of controversial things and then like
Speaker 1: like my mom is like on Facebook and she's like
Speaker 1: arguing with people about he was the best part of
Speaker 1: the show. And and Hollywood all these these like liberal
Speaker 1: Hollywood people that they're they're so offended and I'm like, Mom,
Speaker 1: what do you And it's just like that's how I
Speaker 1: grew up. And my dad was like the same like
Speaker 1: they didn't. They just there was no peac nous. They
Speaker 1: just made fun of every And my mom's like an immigrant,
Speaker 1: Like my mom came here when she was seventeen, like
Speaker 1: didn't speak English, like cried herself to sleep for six
Speaker 1: months because she was upset. My grandfather took them away
Speaker 1: from Italy and like, so she should be embracing, you know,
Speaker 1: all of this. And my mom's like on Facebook, like
Speaker 1: arguing with people about how Ricky Gervais was the best
Speaker 1: part of the Golden Globes. So I love that people
Speaker 1: are still arguing on Facebook. That was like a thing
Speaker 1: like ten years ago. Are you on Facebook? We have
Speaker 1: the President of United States using Twitter as the way
Speaker 1: of notifying. All right, we can't talk about that's politics
Speaker 1: into it. Let's let's go brain of Blandino. What do
Speaker 1: you got, Joe? All right, Brandon Blandino, here we go.
Speaker 1: Every movie that has bowling in it is good, Big Lebowski, Kingpin,
Speaker 1: Okay too, whatever, So that was the thought. So so
Speaker 1: I was thinking, you're like everything they've never seen bowing
Speaker 1: in in it has been good, Big Lebowski, Kingpin that
Speaker 1: I ran out of the movies. But they're both great.
Speaker 1: Movies I've never seen either. Okay, so, so big Lebowski
Speaker 1: is like an acquired taste, and there's some people that
Speaker 1: we've had this conversation before. But big Lebowski is It's
Speaker 1: it's a cult classic. Jeff Bridges is unbelievable. John Goodman
Speaker 1: should have won an Academy Award. But Kingpin is might
Speaker 1: be one of the most underrated comedies of all times.
Speaker 1: Great Bill Murray in Kingpin might be one of the
Speaker 1: most underrated characters in an In an underrated comedy of
Speaker 1: all time, watch king out Awards since it's I'm giving
Speaker 1: out awards awards season and so but yeah, so, any
Speaker 1: is there any other bowling movie there? I see I
Speaker 1: got like a top ten list Dreamer from ninety nine.
Speaker 1: It was number one, and they have Kingpin number two,
Speaker 1: Strikes and Spares from nineteen thirty four, watching that Life
Speaker 1: in the Bowling Lane nineteen thirty four, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and then Big Lebowski number five, way underrated, Sorority Babes
Speaker 1: and Slinball bowl Arama. That sounds like your own personal
Speaker 1: you read your your schedule recordings, is that what you're
Speaker 1: doing that We've got Tom and Jerry bowling and this
Speaker 1: is the Bowling Alley Cat. So I mean the list
Speaker 1: gets uh a little interesting towards the bottom here, I AMDB,
Speaker 1: so there's not a ton You're right, big Lebowski, and
Speaker 1: I guess that's it. Are awesome, So I think we
Speaker 1: need more bowling movies. Yeah, we need more. Let's write
Speaker 1: a bowling movie. Well there's one. Look at I just
Speaker 1: I was scrolling through the Brandon Landiana. There's just one
Speaker 1: other one. I'd love to just throw a little double
Speaker 1: dough Travis, How excited were you in Napoleon Dynamite came out? So?
Speaker 1: How didn't even boling? Like? How how excited were people
Speaker 1: in Wyoming when Napoleon don't Wyoming Nights? But I can
Speaker 1: say that I didn't even know what was coming out.
Speaker 1: I saw a lot. How is that not like a thing? Like?
Speaker 1: How is that not? Oh my? Did you hear about
Speaker 1: their filming this movie? And it should have been like
Speaker 1: I think it was filmed. It was filmed in Idah?
Speaker 1: Was it supposed to be based in Wyoming? I don't
Speaker 1: know was it? But I tell you what when I
Speaker 1: did see it the first time, I didn't watch it
Speaker 1: was like I couldn't finish it. Wait, maybe it did
Speaker 1: take place to Idaho. I think it was Idaho. But
Speaker 1: but it's that whole like Idaho Wyoming like at all,
Speaker 1: because I don't Wyoming border each other. Yes, yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's I feel like Wyoming nights. Maybe maybe How jealous
Speaker 1: were you when Napoleon? I told you, I didn't even
Speaker 1: I didn't even know. This should have been art, This
Speaker 1: should have been arts, This should have been why they
Speaker 1: do it? Idah? Yeah, exactly, idiots? Can you do that
Speaker 1: given my jopstick? Idiots? All right, that's it, We're done.
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