1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Hut. Let's go. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Let's go Giants Out My Giants mobul, give me some jam. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Part of the Giants podcast Network. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Let's roll. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Giants Huddle Podcast. I am 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: feeling it for John Smoke. My name is Jonathan Cacias. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: The Giants Hittle Podcast is brought to you by Citizens, 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 3: the official bank of the New York Giants. 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Welcome Devin McCarty, how are you doing, brother? 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: Appreciate it man. 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: I always get slacked for being from New York and 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: they're playing in Jersey, so people from Jersey like now 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: you're a Jersey guy, and all my people from Rockland 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: County like, nah, he's a New York guy, so always 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: fun doing anything Jersey man. 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: We'll happily accept you as a transplant in New Jersey. 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: We'll take those two. We'll take anything we can get. 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: I really appreciate you being here, Bro, very happy and 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: proud of you for everything that you've done, all your accomplishments. 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 3: I want to talk real quick about how we played together. 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: Of course, we played in the Governor's both together coming 31 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: out of high school. But the year I got to 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: New England, I got traded in twenty fourteen. That was 33 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: the year that the Patriots started oh and two. Right, 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: You've got two oh and two teams coming in this 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: game with the Chiefs and the Giants. I didn't get 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: there till week nine, Right. What was it like after 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: oh and two and all of the naysayers being there, 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: all of the people doubting Tom, all the people doubting 39 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: the Patriots, And of course we went on to win 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl that year, But what was like after 41 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: that own two start? 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 43 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: Man, if people remember that was the same year we 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: went to Kansas City on a Monday night and we 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: got we got stomped, and Jimmy Garoppolo comes in and 46 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: I think he threw either one or two touchdowns at 47 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: the end of the game, and everything went to they 48 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: need to put Jimmy in. Tom's done, It's time to 49 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: revamp this thing. And I think the I think for 50 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: us in New England like it. It's what we were 51 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 2: used to. You know, you go to the Super Bowl 52 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: and you lose to the Giants in twenty eleven, you 53 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: lose an AFC championship games and people are acting like 54 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: you had the worst season ever. And I remember as 55 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: a young player, I'm like, damn, we just played. I 56 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: just played in my first Super Bowl. Like I'm mad 57 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: we lost, But I'm also like, man, I didn't think 58 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: I would ever get here in my career. So I 59 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: think you kind of you got to keep it all 60 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: in perspective, and I think one of the things that 61 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: we focused on is keep what's. 62 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: In the building in the building. 63 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: Don't allow what's outside to come in, don't take what's 64 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: inside and take it outside. Stick together and make your 65 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: focus points and the things that you're trying to do 66 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: as a team, let that come directly from Andy Reid 67 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: or Brian Dable. Let them lead and the guys around 68 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: the players. You lead and the other guys follow. But 69 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: you got to keep that the core. You can't go 70 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: home turn on all of the you know, whether it's 71 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: ESPN or listen to this or listen. 72 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can't read articles. 73 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: You got to keep what you guys are building inside 74 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: that facility to your main focus. And I think if 75 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: you do that, you allow yourselves to continue to get better. 76 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: Because we all know, like billions to tell us, the 77 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: first four games of the season, is you finding out 78 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: what your team's gonna be. So are your two games 79 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: in and how do we win the next two games 80 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: and now get back on track and figure out what 81 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: we're gonna be. 82 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, both of these team need to figure that out. 83 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: I think it's a zer and two team. The Chiefs, 84 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: you know, coming off of a tough loss, and also 85 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: you know, the Giants coming off of a you know, 86 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: an overtime game with the Cowboys that went down literally 87 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: to the last play. This week, right, I'm watching the 88 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: Chiefs on film. Of course, we only got two weeks 89 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: of film to watch from them, but they look a 90 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: lot different than they have in the past. You know, 91 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: Rashid Rice is definitely affecting offense him not being there, 92 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: Xavier Worthy being out as well, they don't have really 93 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: that downfield threat with Tell what's going on. They can't 94 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: run the ball. The only person that's running the ball 95 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: from of is Patrick Mahomes. What is going on with 96 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: this Chiefs offense? 97 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 98 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: I think I think you see early in the Brazil 99 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: game against the Chargers, Xavier Worthy got a touch on 100 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: like the first i think two or three plays of 101 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: the game on an end a round, so that lets 102 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: you know they try to get him going early. So 103 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: he was gonna probably be a focal point of this offense, 104 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: especially in these first six games with al Rashi Rice. 105 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: So now you take him. 106 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: Away and now you're kind of go to guy turns 107 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: into thirty five year olds soon to be thirty six year. 108 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 1: Old Travis Kelce. 109 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: He's not the guy that I think you can say 110 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: we're gonna target him twelve to fifteen times a game. 111 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: See's still a good player, still a good tight end, 112 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: no doubt about it. 113 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: But I think. 114 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: Now they're going to that well too often, Like that 115 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: can't be the thing, And I think what's missing honestly, 116 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: in the run game, you think back to some of 117 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: these other Andy Reid teams, they've had these tight ends or. 118 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: A fullback that could block. 119 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: Right now, Noah Gray has turned into that second tight 120 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: end with Kelsey. Those are both really good receiving threats, 121 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: not big in blocking, and I think getting it out 122 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: of the mud in the run game, they're not able 123 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: to really do that. So I think that struggled. That 124 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: has been a struggle to run game. And then, like 125 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: we all know as a defense, when you come into 126 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: a game and you say, hey, I feel pretty confident 127 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: on the outside that we can cover, go ahead and 128 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: put that safety in the box, Hey be aggressive against 129 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: the run. We like all our matchups down the field. 130 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: It's hard to run the ball, and we've seen it. 131 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: Their best offense forget run or pass, has been Mahome 132 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: scrambling one of the d balls to Hollywood Brown. He's 133 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: running for his life and makes an amazing throwback into 134 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: the middle of the field. 135 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: And then there's been two other kind of explosive plays, the. 136 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: Corner route to Taekwond Thorton against the Chargers and then 137 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 2: obviously the deep ball to Taekwon Thorton U this Sunday. 138 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: So they just don't have a true identity on offense 139 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: right now, and I think I think they're gonna be 140 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: without that until they start to get some of these 141 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: weapon backs. 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The Giants Foundation is a five 150 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: oh one C three nonprofit corporation. 151 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: Huddle up, get in here. 152 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: If you're lined up here, you gotta go over the 153 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 4: middle with at the score great. 154 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: How do we make that happen? 155 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, but Citizen does makes sense of your 156 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: money with Citizens Official Bank of Eli Manning. 157 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: You spoke about Mahomes Legs. You're with Tom your whole career. 158 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: I got you know, with Tom half a year. I 159 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: was also with Eli mann and Drew Brees not really 160 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: mobile quarterbacks. They can of course move in the pocket. 161 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: I mean those are really like top tier guys we're 162 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: talking about inside the pocket movement, but they never really 163 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: created too many things outside the pocket, first downs and 164 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: all of that stuff with their legs. What does Mahomes 165 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: bring to this offense? Because you know, looking at tape, 166 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: their offense really doesn't do too much. But because he 167 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: can run, I feel like it opens up the offense 168 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: at least it gives him some life. What do you 169 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: feel like Mahomes legs does for this offense and his team? 170 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is the offense right now. You 171 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: know he's he's not only the leading rusher, it's about 172 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: double the next guys behind him in Kareem Hunt and 173 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: Isaiah Pacheco. So what he's able to do and how 174 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: he's able to be a playmaker, and it's not just scramble, 175 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: and it's knowing when to scramble, is understanding the coverages 176 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: that they're in and all right, I'm gonna look down 177 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: the feel that is not open. I know this is 178 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: gonna be open. I'm gonna scramble. I think the only 179 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: bad thing right now because he had his legs have 180 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: been such a vocal. 181 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Part of the offense. 182 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: I think he sometimes takes his eyes off being down 183 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: the field. 184 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: He starts to look at. 185 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: The rush because he looks up, nobody's open, and all 186 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: through these first two games that's happened so much, so 187 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: I think now he knows, all right, I got a 188 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: clock in my head and then the best thing for 189 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: this offense is me to find a lane and go 190 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: get positive yards. And the type of quarterback he is, 191 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: he's so much more dangerous when he doesn't have to 192 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: do that, when he can slide up in the pocket, 193 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: slide to the right, and still be able to throw 194 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: the ball down the field. When he does that, I mean, 195 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: he's one of the best to ever play the game. 196 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: So I know they got they gotta figure some things out. 197 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: But until the time being, he's gonna continue to be 198 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: dangerous with running the ball. And I think for the 199 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: Giants that's something that has to be your big focal 200 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: point coming in. 201 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: You have to be prepared for. You have to have 202 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: a guy there for him. 203 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: Your rush has to be disciplined, because if not, they 204 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: can stay the game or beat you in the game 205 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: just because of that. 206 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we both got the chance to play with Vince 207 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: Wilfork right. I think he was one of the most 208 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: dominant players. He was definitely a great leader. Both of 209 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: these teams have anchors along the defensive line, and Chris 210 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: Jones and Dextera Lawrence. What does that mean for a 211 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: defense to have a guy like that that could just 212 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 3: demand a double team in wreck havoc when you don't 213 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: have a double team on them. 214 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And both those guys are rare in the sense 215 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: of it's not just they're gonna stop the run or 216 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: they're not just you know, really good pass rushers. It's 217 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: to hey, we'll be here first, first to third down. 218 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna be here first, second, hand third, We're gonna 219 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: go out there and dominate. 220 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: So it allows you to be a little bit more 221 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: flexible on the edge. Hey, I can rush and I 222 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: can be you know, I. 223 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: Can freelance a little bit more because I know I'm 224 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: gonna get the middle push. I know Deshah Lawrence, if 225 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: they single him, he's gonna win a I know if 226 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: they double Chris Jones, he's still gonna hold that point 227 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: and be there. So it allows these defenses to invest 228 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: in different things. It allows schematically for the coordinators to 229 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: do things a little different because you have guys that 230 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: you know can dominate. And that's why when those two 231 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: guys are not in the lineup, it changes so much 232 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: for these defenses because I know their names are not 233 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: always spoken about on every play, but they usually have 234 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: an impact on every big play that the defense makes. 235 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: So they're vital pieces to the defense. And you know, 236 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: like you just said, they're the centerpiece, they're in the middle, 237 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: they cause havoc. Chris Jones is a guy that goes 238 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: inside and outside. So what they're able to do for 239 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: these defenses obviously this year, but over these last few 240 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: years have been very impactful. 241 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 242 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: Let's talk about mister dangerous mister Russell Wilson. Start contrast 243 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: from week one to week two. I mean, he literally 244 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: blew the doors off the Cowboys defense last week over 245 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 3: four hundred yards passing career high four hundred and fifty yards, 246 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: passing multiple touchdowns. Literally the moon ball was just flying 247 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: all over the field in Dallas. What do you take 248 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: from that? You know, week one and week two jump 249 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: and can we expect that from Russell moving forward? 250 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 251 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: I mean that's that's what a veteran does. I don't 252 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: think he didn't harp too much on week one. I 253 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: thought week one it felt like watching the film back, 254 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 2: like sometimes his eyes were in. 255 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: The wrong places. 256 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: The ball could have came out a couple times, and 257 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: it seems like he said, you know what that happened. 258 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 2: Washington did what they did. He didn't change how he 259 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: was playing the game. I thought he came into Dallas knowing, 260 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: all right, let's see what they have, let's see. 261 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: What I'm gonna get it. I thought he read it 262 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: out better. 263 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: I remember billyus to always tell Tom, don't decide what 264 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: you're gonna do with the ball, read out the defense, 265 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: and throw to the open guy. And I thought Russ 266 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: did that. You know, some of those deep balls. I 267 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: don't know if that's the primary target in some of 268 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: those plays, but he's like, hey, during this defense, it 269 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: looks like it should be maybe cover three. This corner's 270 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: not deep. You know what, I'm letting it rip. And 271 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: I think that's who Russ is. Like We've always talked 272 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: about the moon ball and throwing the ball down the field. 273 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: They have the threats to throw the ball down the 274 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: field now. I think Sunday Night the different this is 275 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: gonna be. They're gonna play a way better defense in 276 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs than what they played in Dallas. 277 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: You know, a couple of those touchdowns, you're looking at 278 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: Dallas like, guys, I mean, there's forty eight seconds left, 279 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: like the one thing we gotta do is stay deep, 280 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 2: and they gave up the d ball, which I don't 281 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: think you're gonna get as much as that from the 282 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. 283 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: So I do think Russ can have some success. I 284 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: think that game was big for him. 285 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: To quiet down all of the Dart noise and let's 286 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: put Dart in, let's go this. So I think that 287 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: allows him, you know, go play the game, don't worry 288 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: about this guy coming in for you. 289 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: But I think he can still have some good moments. 290 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: But overall, I don't see Dallas happening, you know, week 291 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: in and week out for this Giants offense. I do 292 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: think eventually they're gonna have to try to go to 293 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: some other guys more than just Robinson and Neighbors, which 294 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: you know, they had huge games against Dallas. 295 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure Kansas City says, hey, we can't let these two. 296 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: Guys beat us, and Russ is gonna have to spread 297 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: the ball out and get it to some other guys 298 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: and let them be playmakers as well. 299 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: Giants defense been getting a little heat this week. You know, 300 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: I think the vaunted defense to you know, bringing an 301 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: up dude, Carter Paulson, the debo, you know, Holland, you know, 302 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: guys to show up the defense, Shane Bowen on his 303 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: second year. But they couldn't really stop Dallas when they 304 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: needed to stop. I mean, they did get overtime stops, 305 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: which is huge, but that fourth quarter man that was 306 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: really rough to watch watching them kind of allow Dallas 307 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: to get to a certain point for Brandon Aubrey to 308 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: kick an absurdly long few go which is crazy, but 309 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: everyone knows he has a leg. What went wrong with 310 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 3: the Giants defense last week in Dallas? 311 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 312 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Last year washing the Giants defense, I felt like they 313 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: weren't really there. You know, it was like guys wide open. 314 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: This year, like when you watch them, it's just they're 315 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: not finishing the plays, like, hey, we might get a 316 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: good pass rush, we got tight coverage, but the coverage 317 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 2: isn't tight enough. 318 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: It's a first down. 319 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: You know, they had there was an over route to 320 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 2: to Seedee Lamb and you end up having two guys 321 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: kind of on its CD reaches back catch and you're like, man, 322 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: I don't think we want a different defense drawn up here, 323 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: Like we just got to execute and make the plays. 324 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: So again, I think what you said is the key 325 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: thing about being a good defense. Like some people look 326 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: at yards, some people look at points. The bottom line 327 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: in the NFL is every team's good enough to win. 328 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: Every time you step on the field, do you make 329 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: the plays to execute to win. You go back to 330 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: Week one against Washington, we got to get a stop 331 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: in the run game. We can't let him run the 332 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: clock out. They run a clock out, you know, they 333 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: take over the game on the ground, and then you 334 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: end up giving up a ton of rushing yards, which 335 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: a good amount happened late in the game when you 336 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: needed to stop the run. He wasn't able to stop 337 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: the run. You play decent against Jaden Daiels, but those 338 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: are the things. 339 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: That you have to do as a good defense. 340 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: And I think, honestly, I think last week they ran 341 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: into a guy that he's not getting a ton of 342 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: credit because everything else but Dak Prescott's playing at a 343 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: high level. 344 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: Right now. He's making the right plays. 345 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: And I thought that I had a lot to do 346 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: with the defense not playing as well as you would 347 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: wanted to was because of Dak and trying to stop 348 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: pickings and ceedee lamb, because they did a decent job 349 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: in the run game. 350 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: It's every you know how it is. 351 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: Everything turns into when you come back on Monday, it's like, 352 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: if we take away these five plays, except but like 353 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: that's every game. You gotta take them away. It can't 354 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: be an if. And I think that's what the Giants. 355 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: If I was on that defense and I was a leader, 356 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: that would be my focus. All right, Guys, like we're 357 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: playing decent ball, but like at some point we lose 358 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: focus or we don't finish the way we need to 359 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: do every single time. We got to have accountability to 360 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: make every play, not most plays or some plays, every 361 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: play that comes our way that we should be in 362 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: position to make the play. 363 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: We gotta make those plays and then we'll start winning 364 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: football games. 365 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 366 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: of crunch time football, I'm your man. But if you're 367 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: wondering about a long term financial plan, you should talk 368 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: to citizens. Hey, I can also talk long care. 369 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: I'd like to learn about amuliar team. 370 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: Yes, I knew I could. 371 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: Help make sense of your money with citizens. 372 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: Speaking about making plays, you got my elite neighbors one 373 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: of the most talented young receivers in the NFL. As 374 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: a defensive back, yourself, corner and safety. I think you 375 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: did a little bit of corner back in the day 376 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: as well. What's your coverage against him? How do you 377 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: stop a guy like that when you know he's going 378 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: to be a primary target for the Giants. 379 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: He's a tree for the offense, because the way to 380 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: stop him is you gotta you gotta put two guys 381 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: over there. 382 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: The guys don't believe. 383 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: I remember that I went to training campus rookie year 384 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there and for one, you walk in 385 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: here looking like man, he's a little bigger than I 386 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: thought legs. You walk in and you're like, man, it's 387 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: an impressive looking athlete. Then he the way he's able 388 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: to go up and get the football, run vertical routes, 389 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: really really run good underneath routes, intermediate. He just does 390 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: everything on the rout tree at a high level that I. 391 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: Think the Giants offense. 392 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: Should be a little easy to execute some things because 393 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: he's so dynamic that it feels like he. 394 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: Should dictate coverage and if he. 395 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: Doesn't, every time he's one on one, throw the ball 396 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: over there. And I think that's a little surprising that 397 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: it's not easier. I think we would expect the way 398 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: the offense looks Sunday, that it should look like that 399 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 2: all the time. 400 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: But the guy's unbelievable. 401 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: He's one of the best young guys in this game, 402 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 2: and I think he's now creeping into that. Stop saying 403 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: I'm one of the best young guys and just leave 404 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: it as I'm one of the best receivers in the 405 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: game period. That that is definitely what he turns in. 406 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: But I think everyone knew that his rookie year that 407 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: we would be talking about him in that way. And 408 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: it's cool to see because he has these injuries that 409 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: pop up every now and then and I always miss him, 410 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: and Sunday comes and the guy's out there and he's making. 411 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 3: Plays baller gamer right, Yes, last one. Dev I had 412 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 3: a little bit of time with day Ball in New England. 413 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: I mean I was only with you guys for like 414 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: four or five months, you know, just enough to win 415 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl, right, But you were with da Bo before. 416 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 3: Can you give me a story or tell me something 417 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 3: about day Ball, because you know the Giants they're trying 418 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 3: to get something. 419 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: But you know how he is with the media. 420 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 3: He's definitely Bill Belichick esque when it comes to the media. 421 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 3: It really doesn't give him too much. Can you give 422 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 3: us a little story or something about Dave Ball if 423 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 3: you have one. 424 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, he's one of those guys that I got 425 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: a chance to be in the locker room or on 426 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: a team with that. I felt when he got his 427 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: own place and he got to take over, as long 428 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: as he didn't change who he. 429 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: Was, players would love him. 430 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: And when I've gone to the Giants facility, training camp 431 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: or whatever, I'm like, man, Dave's is still the same. 432 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's the key part. Dave's was the 433 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: guy that like as I watched him in the press conference, 434 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 2: he went six seven and people are like, here he 435 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: goes with and I'm like, but that's who he is. 436 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: When we used to be on the field, he would 437 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: be talking trash. He coached a tight end, so myself, 438 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: Patrick Chung, Darryl Harmon, we'd be going against Gronk and 439 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 2: all these different guys, and he would talk trash for 440 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: the tight ends, but that's who he is, Like, he's 441 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: a good nature guy. He's a players type of guy 442 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: of understanding. All right, this is what the guys need 443 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: right now. It can't all be hey, we gotta be 444 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: serious faces and no, it's gotta be fun. It's got 445 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: it and that's why I've gone there, and he's had 446 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: a DJ there and the DJ is playing that practice. 447 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 2: So again, I think one of the hardest things in 448 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: the NFL is teams want like instant success and they 449 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: don't pay attention to sometimes the building blocks and what 450 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: you're trying to do. And I think Dable and them 451 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: have been doing that. And the hard thing is this, 452 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: you know, this league's about winning and you gotta win. 453 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: But I love it. 454 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: I see Dables sometimes. He lives in the same town 455 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: as my brother, so I see him at youth baseball 456 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: games and football games when he can be there and 457 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: support his kids. So great dude and happy. I got 458 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: the time with him in New England and it's been 459 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: great to see how he's gone about doing things over 460 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: for the Giants. But the truth is in New England man, 461 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: everybody's taught that, like, you got to use the media 462 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,239 Speaker 2: to your advantage on the field, And I get it 463 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: the way it comes across sometimes, but I do think 464 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: there's a method to the madness and how you approach 465 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: it and what you try to do that you think 466 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: is what's best for your team. But now that I'm 467 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 2: in the media, I fully understand it. We want all 468 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: the information we can possibly get, so when you don't 469 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: get it, it feels like it's being slighted. 470 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: Dev. Thank you, brother. This was fun. 471 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: Man. 472 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: It's been a minute since we've talked, but I appreciate 473 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: your time, Devin mccordy. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Johnathink. 474 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: It's this and I'll see you next time on the 475 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: Giants Title Podcast.