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I want to 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 1: start with some college football, so I watch USC Notre Dame. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: I thought, sometimes Robert games are predictable, it was going 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: to be cold weather. I think Notre Dame is built 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: for it. They're a very, very very good running team. 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: USC has not shown an ability to go on the 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: road get play physical football consistently. I watched Notre Dame 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: and my take was A looked at their schedule as 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: I was watching it, and I thought, they don't play 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: another ranked team. Robert, you know college or pro football, 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: especially college, they're built for bad weather. If they can 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: win without throwing the football, I think Notre Dame is 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: not only a playoff team. I think they're going to 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: have success. I don't know if there's a team built 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: for January in December more than Notre Dame or Am 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: I a little hyperbolic on the Irish here? 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: No, you're not hyperbolic, and I know you follow the 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 3: USC churches program pretty closely. It has been a problem 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: for Lincoln Riley to get them to travel. But when 31 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: you look at Notre Dame and the way that they're 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 3: built with CJ. Carr, you got loved. They're running back position. 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: These guys. There's two things that travel in big time 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: college football late in the season. It's a running game 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: and it's your defense. They have both of those things. 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: So if Notre Dame wins out, I'm with you. They 37 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: make it to the college football Playoff and I think 38 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: they do some damage there. 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I also, you know, what do we make of USC? 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: I had this discussion this morning with somebody I respect. 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: I said, I think Lincoln smart. I think he's a 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: good play designer. I think Jayden Mayava. I watched him 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: at UNLV. I never thought he would be this good. 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: But could we argue maybe he's not a great culture 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: creator this team. I'm we're four years in now. They 46 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: don't travel well. If you told a little rain, a 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: little physicality, I mean, Robert, they don't travel well. Maybe 48 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: this is just what they're gonna be. 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: It comes down to whether you believe having a team 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: travel all the way from the West Coast into Middle 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: America was really the best decision for this USC program. 52 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: I think that Lincoln Riley is a great coach. I 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: think he's a great developer of quarterbacks. He's got Jade 54 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: Mayava play out of his mind. And ultimately it comes 55 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: down to who else in the building can be can 56 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: be that culture creator for them. Some of the best 57 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: dad coaches I've ever played for uh set the culture. 58 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: Gave the motivational speeches, but it was the strength coach, 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: it was the defensive coordinator. Those are the guys that 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: really set the tone day in and day out. And 61 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: you know, we had the issue with Lincoln Riley and 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 3: Alex Grinch there for a while, and then he fixed 63 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: that bringing in Danton Lynn. But at the end of 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: the day, they have not been able to figure out 65 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: that recipe. And I think it also goes back to 66 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: the transfer portal. It's really hard to build a roster 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: in college football today. Making no excuses for Lincoln Riley. 68 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 3: I think he's phenomenal. At the end of the day, 69 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: you do have to win football games. 70 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 71 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: No, it felt like that Michigan game last year where 72 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: they were in it, but they can't stop the big 73 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: leaks in the run defense. They just they just can't 74 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: put them on the row. Little Chilli Weather. It's not 75 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: the same program. So I watched the Ohio State and 76 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: Wisconsin's not a good you know, calm because there really 77 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: is a program there. I mean, catching passes was a problem, 78 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: like open up. But I watch Ohio States defense and 79 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: Robert it's by college standards. There's not a lot of 80 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: windows open like you need an elite he eat quarterback 81 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: throwing into small windows, and Julian's saying of all these quarterbacks, 82 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't make a lot of mistakes. I don't know. 83 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: It feels this defense might carry him. I don't know. 84 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean, from a collegiate standpoint, is Ohio State to 85 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: you head and shoulders above the country. 86 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: I don't believe they are. I believe Indiana is the 87 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: best team in the country. And the reason for saying 88 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: that isn't just solely based off of how the two 89 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 3: teams played against Illinois. I saw an Ohio State team 90 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: that took advantage of the mistakes that Illinois made and. 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 5: They capitalized on them. 92 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: But I saw in Indiana team they went out there 93 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: and absolutely dominated them from the start of the game 94 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: to the finish, and they gave up two rushing yards 95 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: in that game. So it's not a transitive property conversation 96 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: or argument. It's just more of what I saw with 97 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 3: my own eyes, and I think Fernando Mendoza is playing 98 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: lights out. But to speak on Ohio State, I just 99 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: think Julian Saying is not getting the attention that he 100 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: deserves because I believe he's going super say when it 101 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: comes to playing winning football. I know he leads the 102 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: country in pass efficiency and completion percentage. In this past week, 103 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: he throws for three hundred and ninety three yards and 104 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 3: four touchdowns. I thought he needed that type of game 105 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 3: to people to really understand how well he is playing. 106 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: He's my front runner for the Heisman Trophy, and I 107 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: know he's got Jeremiah Smith and Tate out there at 108 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: wide receiver. 109 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, someone has to 110 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 5: steer the ship. 111 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: And that's why I think Julian's saying is the Heisman 112 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: front runner right now. 113 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 5: In Ohio State. 114 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 3: You talk about that defense, you're going to be having 115 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: to have to have a quarterback that has the utmost 116 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: confidence to throw into traffic and use ballplacement to beat them. 117 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 5: So your point about small windows is spot on. 118 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just it's NFL ish where you better you 119 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: better spin it because you're not getting a lot of 120 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: wobbly stuffed downfield and not working against the Buckeyes. Okay, 121 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Drake May. How is Drake May? 122 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I know Mike Rabels smart. I predicted they 123 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: would be a playoff team. How has he grown this 124 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: much in one offseason? He is accurate. We always knew 125 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: he was big and moved. How do you explain his 126 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: ascension this quickly? 127 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: I think with my I think it's Mike Rabel and 128 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: you can talk about offensive coordinator, this playmaker that I 129 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 3: think it boils down to a culture builder, a culture 130 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: creator where you have an identity. Anywhere Mike Rabel's been, 131 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: He's always been able to create that identity. The Titans 132 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: are missing him right now because they don't have an identity. 133 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: So you bring him into the Patriots organization and you 134 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: have this quarterback who's got a big arm, you know, 135 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: he can make plays with his feet, and Verbel sits 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: him down and says, this is all I need you 137 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: to do. He didn't throw the football thirty five times, 138 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: he didn't throw the football forty times, and they put 139 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: the team on his back and say, hey, we're going 140 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: to live and die by. 141 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 5: Your arm through the football twenty three times. 142 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: And it's because what Rabel does best is he gets 143 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: his defense to play at a high level and they 144 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: shorten the game. So what Drake May has done to 145 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: this point in the season puts him, in my opinion, 146 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: the top five for the race for the MVP. And 147 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: I don't think it's any world beating things. It's just 148 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: a general expectation of listen, we're gonna make this game 149 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: very simple for you. We need you to make five 150 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: plays a game. Everything other than that, be ready to 151 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: get to your checkdowns, be ready to play winning football. 152 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: And that's where I think Mike Vrabel has been the 153 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: key for Drake May to unlock his full potential. 154 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 155 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: in noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 156 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 157 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Hey it's me Rob Parker. 158 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 6: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for 159 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 6: twenty two minutes of piping hot baseball talk featuring the 160 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 6: biggest names of newsmakers in the sport. Whether you believe 161 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 6: in analytics or the I test, We've got all the 162 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 6: bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, so do your 163 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 6: sofa favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob 164 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 6: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 165 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: So, you know, we were talking about the Jackson Dart 166 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: bone Knicks game, and I think Denver's got much better personnel. 167 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: So I was strangely more impressed with Jackson Dart than 168 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: I was Bone Next because I thought Jackson played really, 169 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: really well. And I joked, I said, maybe it's because 170 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: he's a good looking kid or something. But his confidence, 171 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: his confidence is unshakable, like he just doesn't care. And 172 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: there is something about it, you know, it's it's It 173 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: would be so easy if you were Jackson Dart to 174 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: go to Denver with that pass rush, high altitude and 175 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: to kind of be like, get a little overwhelmed with it. 176 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: But we were saying this morning, there's an it quality 177 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: to Jackson Dart, whatever it is. You had a great 178 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: rookie year. Are you surprised how good and how confident 179 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: he is because it's not a great offensive line. You know, 180 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: Denver's got better players, that's indisputable. Are you surprised by 181 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart. 182 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: Colin, I'm not surprised by him because I got to 183 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: watch him in college duel it out with Jayden Daniels 184 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: and the outdueled them at Ole. 185 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 5: Miss when they played against LSU. 186 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: I believe this was back in twenty twenty three, so 187 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: I got to watch that first hand and I saw 188 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: that it factor that you're talking about. 189 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: And I've mentioned this before. You see guys like. 190 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: Jackson Dart who have moxie, right, But normally when you 191 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: say a quarterback has moxie, you're saying he doesn't have 192 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: arm talent, he's not a great athlete, he can't make 193 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: just some crazy plays off schedule. Well, Jackson Dark can 194 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: do all of those things. And there's also different types 195 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: of runners. You know, you have your Tim Tebow style runners, 196 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: your Bear Bachmeier style runners, who I called the game 197 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: for BYU this past weekend. With where they're downhill, they're 198 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: trying to run guys over, and then you have guys 199 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: like Jackson Dart who have a little bit of wiggle 200 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: to him and are actually fast that can help alleviate 201 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: erase some of the mistakes of your offensive line. And 202 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: what I think the Giants are going through right now 203 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: is they don't have a culture of winning. That is 204 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: why they didn't close out this game against the Denver Broncos. 205 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: They're not used to winning. They're not used to people 206 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: saying good things about them. Last week, I thought they 207 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 3: were the only two to four team in the league 208 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 3: that was walking around like they were six and zero. 209 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 5: And that's because of Jackson Dark and Camps Kataboo. 210 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: So with Mahomes, they've reinvented their i should say rebuilt. 211 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: They've rebuilt their O line three times in six years. 212 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: I think they've rebuilt their receiving cord twice this year. 213 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: They are constantly course correcting because in this league, you know, 214 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: fans sometimes and I'm guilty of this too, the best 215 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: gms with the best players make mistakes. Tom Brady throw 216 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: a pick six in a Super Bowl, like, this is 217 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: a mistake league, and you just have to course correct, 218 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: lose the ego, identify it. While I'm watching them yesterday 219 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: and the Raiders aren't great. But when you watch the offense, 220 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: is it Mahomes? Is it the GMS picks? Is it 221 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: Andy Reive? Like what impresses you? What do you look 222 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: at and go wow? Because we all watch Mahomes But 223 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean, good god. They put Hollywood Brown wasn't working, 224 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Juju Smith was fine, He's great there. Everything works with 225 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: their offense. 226 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you're spot on because what they do so 227 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 3: well is they're very multiple, right. They get Rashie Rice back, 228 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: they use they utilize him. They got Xavier Worthy who's 229 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: got elite traits. They have Hollywood Brown who has an 230 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: elite trade. They get the most out of Tae Kwon Thornton. 231 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: Why he's a big, tall long ranger receiver who has 232 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: elite traits. You got Juju Smith Schuster, who when he's 233 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: not getting punched in the face after games, is moving 234 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 3: the chains on third downs. 235 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 5: And of course you can't forget about Travis Kelce. 236 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: So what I've been most impressed with is Mahomes's ability 237 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: to get it done with anybody. And I think that 238 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: is early reminiscent of what we saw from our colleague 239 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: and the greatest quarterback of all time, Tom Brady. He 240 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 3: had that constant in Rob Gronkowski, and then it was 241 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: Julian Edelman, Wes Welkers, all these different guys that they 242 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: can throw in there to make play happen, but it 243 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: all boils down to Patrick Mahomes being the one that's 244 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 3: just distributing the ball out. And I also think they 245 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: do a really good job of this colin because we 246 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: see this with young quarterbacks when they come in and 247 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: they have a great season, like Jayden Daniels did or 248 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: like c J. 249 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 5: Stroud. What the Chiefs do so well. 250 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: Is they bring in more talent regardless, and that talent 251 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: isn't just some this guy should be good. They have 252 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: an elite trait so they can use them in a 253 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: very specific way. And that's why I think some of 254 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: these young quarterbacks are struggling because they get talent around them, 255 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: but then they don't upgrade every single year because I, hey, 256 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: we're good at this spot, let's go over here. It's 257 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: like no, no, Always bring in a receiver, Always bring 258 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: in a running back, because you never know when that 259 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: player is going to be able to give you a 260 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 3: four to five game run that could help you win 261 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. 262 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: So I'm there's a piece of video. We'll wrap it 263 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: up with there. So there's a piece of video in 264 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: camp with Caleb Williams. He's throwing to a net and 265 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: he misses badly, and he like he gets really upset. 266 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: And I've said he's got a ton of horsepower. I 267 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: think he doesn't. Told a lot of interceptions high school college, 268 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: probably never has. But he may just never be sixty 269 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: seven percent completion guy. He may never be that. You 270 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: tell me all quarterbacks have maybe outside of Mahomes, they 271 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: all have like limitations, strengths, liabilities. Can Caleb ever be 272 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: sixty eight percent completion guy? Or is that just that's 273 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: just not He's horsepower guy, he's big play guy. He's 274 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: not consistent, accurate. I mean, what do you make of it? 275 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: I think for Caleb Williams, I've heard coaches tell me 276 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: this about like Brett Fahr, have you got to live 277 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: with the bad because the good is so good? And 278 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: with with Caleb Williams, there's going to be some plays 279 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: where you're like, hey man, what was that? 280 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 5: But you have to let him grow into that. 281 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: If he's going to become a sixty eight percent completion 282 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: seventy percent completion guy, you have to allow him to 283 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: build that confidence do what he does best. The best 284 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: thing that I think that Ben Johnson has done thus 285 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: far this year is their running game. 286 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 7: That is what allowed. 287 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: Jarrett Golf to be this play action pass quarterback who 288 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: when you asked him to make seven throws on third 289 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: down a game, he can make them at the highest 290 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: level possible because you were giving him open routes. They 291 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: were using am around Saint Brown to get open in 292 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: the middle of the field and move him around, kind 293 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: of like they're doing with DJ Moore. But the Bears 294 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: didn't have that run game. And for the past two weeks, 295 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: that run game has been alive and well to the 296 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: point where Caleb didn't have to play even really good 297 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: for the Bears to win. 298 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 5: And that's what you want from a for a young quarterback. 299 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: Give him that stability that you guys can lean on 300 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: that running game and he will grow into that. But 301 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: you know, this colin the world is not very patient 302 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: right now. It's probably the most impatient it's ever been. 303 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: But if you want to see Caleb continue to grow, 304 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: you can't expect him to be Joe Montana in year two. 305 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: I want to wrap with something on Dak. I said 306 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: very early in Dak's career, you could see at the podium, 307 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: you could hear it, you could see it. Jerry Jones 308 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: is a little kind of needy and a lot of 309 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: vanity and a lot of maintenance. Dak always said the 310 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: right thing at the podium. Dak was always high iq EQ. 311 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: In fact, I like this intangibles more than his tangibles. 312 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: I just like the guy. And then I'm watching this 313 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: year and I think it's something. So George Pickens came in, 314 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: he was you know, he's a little immature, wildly talented, 315 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: and yet he goes to Dak no drama. I mean, 316 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: he's just no drama. And I think I think Dak 317 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: gets credit for this. I don't think that's the case everywhere. 318 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: I mean in Pittsburgh, Mike Tomlin, who is a pretty 319 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: he's a willing supporter of players who can be somewhat dramatic. 320 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: Right He's had a few and Mike's like, I'm moving 321 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: on and then he goes to Dallas and not a 322 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: peep he is gone from highlight guy the high production guy. 323 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: I think Dak gets credit here. I think, I mean 324 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: your take on that when the quarterback is mature, does 325 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: it change the locker room one hundred percent? 326 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: And you know everyone wants to talk about the Cowboys 327 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: and Dak Prescott. I think he's playing like an MVP 328 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: as well. I know they're three and three and that's 329 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: hard to say, but I think the best thing that 330 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: has ever happened to George Pickens was Ceedee Lamb going down. 331 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: Why because he was able to show them I can 332 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: be a number one wide receiver. We knew that in Pittsburgh, 333 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: but as you said, there was some issues there. So 334 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: I also have to give credit to George Pickens for 335 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: coming into a new team and a new situation and 336 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: understanding that, hey, this thing can go one of two ways. 337 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: I can continue to do some of the things that 338 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: I did in Pittsburgh that really got me out of there. 339 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: Or I can buy into what's going on here despite 340 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: how our record is looking right now, and I can 341 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: be a great teammate to the rest of these guys. 342 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 3: Dak does always answer the question the right way. He 343 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: also shows honesty in some of his answers. He didn't 344 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 3: know that Michael Parsons was going to get traded, But 345 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: what's he supposed to do about that? He has to 346 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: go out there and continue to play. So you got 347 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: to tip your cat to Dak Prescott. 348 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 5: For what he's been able to do. 349 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: I think you're spot on there, Colin, But ceedee Lamb 350 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 3: going down allowed George Pickens to establish himself within the 351 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: offense and get that confidence and camaraderie with Dak. 352 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 5: Now he's got two number one wide receivers. 353 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just thought what they did to my Washington commanders. 354 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: That was that was a butt kicking. Cross our fingers. 355 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: On Jaden's health, Robertson, I love having you on college 356 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: and pro stuff. You're dialed in, my man. Thank you 357 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: so much. 358 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 5: Appreciate you coming anytime. 359 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: God bless does his homework, knows his college football. I've 360 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: just come to terms with usc IS. You know, you 361 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: put us in the octagon with some clouds and rain. 362 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: We're not coming out of it with a w I've 363 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: just you know, it is what it is. At home, 364 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: we can beat anybody except Ohio. State, but on the road, 365 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel like it's I don't know. I 366 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: watched that game and I'm like, this is exactly what 367 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: I thought it would be. In fact, it was worse. 368 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: Three hundred yards rushing, I figured it was worse. And 369 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, there is something to be said about toughness, 370 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: travels and us. He is smart. I think Lincoln's really 371 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: really bright. I think his play design is excellent. There's 372 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: no question they're fun to watch, but I feel like 373 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm seeing the same movie over and over. J Max 374 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: got his Herd Line News after the break live in Chicago. 375 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays 376 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: and noone Easter not a em Pacific. 377 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: Tomorrow. We'll have the herd Hierarchy. Got to watch the 378 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: Lions Tampa tonight. Have to watch the Seahawks and Houston tonight. 379 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Two good actual Monday night games. Rather have one. You 380 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: can talk me in a none, but I'll take two. 381 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: Ulus We have a game seven tonight. Game one of 382 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: the World Series would be Friday, Amazon game Thursday tomorrow 383 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: is gonna be a good show. Jmack with the News. 384 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 5: On the news. 385 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: This is the Herd Line. 386 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: News and don't forget Tuesday night the NBA starts. I mean, 387 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: it is just a great week. You know, plan to 388 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 4: sit around on your sofa and watch sports all week. 389 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: Let's start with the Rams, Colin. They're gonna be in 390 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: the hurd hierarchy tomorrow. Absolute dismantling of Jacksonville early on 391 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: Sunday morning out here in La thirty five to seven. 392 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 4: I got an amazing sad. I'll give you in a moment. 393 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 4: But the story here was Matt Stafford five TV. He 394 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 4: passes three to Devonte Adams. Here's Davante talking about Stafford's 395 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: mental approach to taking apart Jacksonville. 396 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 8: Absolutely, no, that's that's the type of I mean, he's 397 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 8: he's a killer, that's what. 398 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: That's what killers do. 399 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 5: They go out and kill. 400 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 8: So it's never easy when you're operating in elements like that, 401 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 8: but you don't. We started off a little slowly and 402 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 8: I and then you know, but the rest of office 403 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 8: was Rowland, so we were able to kind of keep 404 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 8: the ball moving and then found our opportunities in there 405 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 8: and they took advantage. 406 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: That was It's funny. The Jags had more yards and 407 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: more yards of play and got beat thirty five seven. Wow, 408 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: And they had a touchdown called back, they had more penalties, 409 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: they got sacked a bunch. That was a great football 410 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: operation against a wobbly football operation. That's what it was. 411 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 4: You feel bad for the London fans last week they 412 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 4: had to endure Jets Broncos, and then this week thirty 413 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 4: five seven Colin, how's this stat for the Rams? So 414 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 4: a lot of people got this game wrong, including myself. 415 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: The Rams used three tight ends on twenty four plays. Okay, 416 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: completely different than they've ever done In the last four years, they've. 417 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 7: Used three tight ends six times total. 418 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 4: Sean McVay basically said, we're total. We're putting in a 419 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: whole new game plan. Jacksonville was discombobulated, not ready for it. 420 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 4: This was a game where hey man, it's McVeigh against 421 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: a rookie head coach, and I missed that McVeigh is 422 00:20:59,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: a damn genie. 423 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: Great great stuff, considering they flew in the day before. 424 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: It was a remarkably efficient, crisp, clean performance. I mean, 425 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: they just didn't waste any time. It looked like they'd 426 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: been there for a week. I mean, to go overseas. 427 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck said this early, you have no idea what 428 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: you're getting. You really, that's right. I mostly stay away 429 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: from international games like you just don't know what you're getting. 430 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: That was impressive. 431 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, So basically mcvay's like, oh, we don't have Buka, 432 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: let's just go three tight ends and they were not 433 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 4: ready for it. Up and down the field with these 434 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: all right, Next up, Colin. Not a great story here, 435 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 4: and that's Jaden Daniels. Wow man, listen. He was already 436 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 4: hurt miss games earlier this season. We're still waiting on 437 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 4: an MRI result. Today it's a hamstring. Now without him 438 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: there borderline unwatchable and the Chiefs get an automatic win. 439 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: We may as well not play that game next week. 440 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 4: Dan Quinn says he's nervous. The expectation is he'll miss 441 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: the game against the Chiefs. 442 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 7: Now it is early. 443 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: Maybe he gets you know, mister Miyagi does a number 444 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 4: on the hammy and he's able to play. 445 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 7: But without it. 446 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 4: Marcus Mariota on his first possession, brutal through a sixty 447 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 4: eight yard pick six. 448 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: It was the worst throw of the day, No to 449 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: I had a couple, it was it was it was 450 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: a brutal pick. But you know what Dallas, to their credit, 451 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: played with a ton of juice. Dallas was all dialed 452 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: in first series. They were ready to roll. 453 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 7: We could agree. 454 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: Now Dallas is right now a better football team than Washington. 455 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not even close. 456 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: Now. 457 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: Washington was down their top three receivers, which is a 458 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 4: lot to overcome. But you know, Washington has not had 459 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 4: that magic that they had last year. Remember it was 460 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 4: like fourth down, Jayden Daniels, go make some magic happen, 461 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: and it would happen all the time. They're not even 462 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: close to that, and that defense is aging. Did you 463 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: see how badly Lattimore got cooked? But I mean he 464 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 4: was getting roasted by Pickens. He was frustrated. 465 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 7: I don't want to. 466 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 4: Say they're missing the playoffs, Colin. Have you looked at 467 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 4: Washington's upcoming schedule? Okay, they're losing to the Chiefs this week. 468 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: Oh Daniels, No, No, they're they're They're cooked and probably 469 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: gonna be three and seven. They're in big trouble. I 470 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: don't know how you Readbound for you. Two things are 471 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: always true in the NFL. I'm good at predicting one, 472 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: not good at the other. One of them is somebody's 473 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: gonna double their win total, I said, New England. I've 474 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: been doing that for years. But the other thing is 475 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: one of the really great teams from the previous year 476 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: goes into the tank. We both thought it would be Detroit, Yeah, 477 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: and it's Washington. 478 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 4: It could still be Detroit, but for sure Washington. Now 479 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: that opens up a playoff spot in the AFC. I'm 480 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 4: just I don't want to spitball here, but are the Cowboys? 481 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: Could they sneak in a wild card? 482 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's an offensive league. Could Dallas score their way 483 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: to a wild card? Certainly? Now what makes it tougher 484 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: is the Giants are a real team. So you know 485 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: Dallas dak has feasted on Washington and the Giants for 486 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: a decade. Giants matchup pretty well with Dallas because Dallas 487 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: is oh lines and a rebuild in the Giants front's 488 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: really good. 489 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 4: Well, nicky Dallas line, its gonna get healthier. And the 490 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 4: kid Overshown who was awesome last year, remember him, the defender, 491 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 4: He's now his window to return I think opens up. 492 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 7: He's all excited. 493 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 4: Dallas is a is gonna They're not gonna be an 494 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 4: easy out with Dax slinging it and those two receivers 495 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: in the postseason. 496 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: I I don't know. 497 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 7: I'm shocked by that. 498 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 4: All right, let's wrap up Colin Baseball. Obviously Game seven tonight. 499 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: Blue Jays with the win last night, and they are 500 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: hosting Game seven tonight on Fox. Big night for Seattle 501 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: sports fans better have two TVs. Juice up the remotes 502 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: Mariners in Toronto and Seahawks hosting the Texans. 503 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 7: Colin, do you have a you want to bet on 504 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 7: this at all? 505 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 1: Or what are we doing here? I don't have great vibes. 506 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: I listened, Seattle won the first two. It'll come down 507 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: to pitching. Seattle's stilling a guy they have great trust in. 508 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: I think these are pretty even teams. I think Seattle 509 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: is the cooler story. But Dodger Mariners, I think, well, 510 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: you'd have the ultimate underdog. I mean, did anybody pick. 511 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, people have liked certain Mariner players for a 512 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: few years. But I think it would be a really 513 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: it would be kind of Bowls against the Jazz, kind 514 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: of a final, like you're you're like, oh, the dominant 515 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: dynasty against that pesky team. I think I think Mariners 516 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: Dodgers is a really fun world series. 517 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Vlad Guerrero, who is torching Seattle pitching. He talked 518 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 4: about what the World Series would birth would mean to 519 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 4: the squad for. 520 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 9: The second time in franchise history. 521 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 7: The Blue Jays are. 522 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 9: Going to play Game seven. Are you ready? 523 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: Hey? Hey, you want me? 524 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 5: He's done ready? I bone ready, I bone ready? 525 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 526 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's You've got some Stu, Kyle Rawley, Vlad Guerrero. 527 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: There's there's some marquee players in this series. Look at them. 528 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: Look at him hitting four forty against Mariner in the 529 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: post and that's a postseason numbers. 530 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 7: Dad obviously a legend. 531 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: ALCS Game seven tonight, seven pm Eastern on Fox and 532 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 4: FS one. 533 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 7: I'll root for whoever you're rooting for. Listen, I'm rooting 534 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 7: for the Americas. 535 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: Strangely, road teams do well. The road team, listen to this, 536 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: has gone seven and one in the last eight game sevens. 537 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: And that tells you how how valuable pitching is. First 538 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: of all, there's a lot of pressure. Baseball is a 539 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: sport where you get long time to sit and think. 540 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: Like golf, you have slumps in baseball and golf, and 541 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: so the home team comes in with a ton of pressure. 542 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: It'll come down to what starting pitcher can give me 543 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: six and two thirds eight stuff, and that's the winner 544 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: of tonight. 545 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 4: J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and 546 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. 547 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, every weekend we have a game 548 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: of the day. We did not think the Giants Denver 549 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: for the first three hours of it was going to 550 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: be the game of the day. But I would say 551 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: in a losing cause, I was kind of really blown 552 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: away by Jackson Dart, his poise, his command, his confidence. 553 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: He has the less impressive roster than Denver. Okay, the 554 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: Giants are still they got holes. Denver's roster doesn't have 555 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: any holes. O line's good, D line's good, secondary star corner. 556 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: Denver's roster's got no holes. Giants still have a few, 557 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: and you cross your fingers on their left tackle being 558 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: healthy week to week. But here was Matt Hasselbeck on 559 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: what he sees with a rookie first rounder Jackson. 560 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 10: Dart, just because he threw that interception that you know, 561 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 10: ultimately was one of the plays that led to their loss. Like, 562 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 10: in the long run, this is going to be great 563 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 10: for his career. It's gonna be great for it like 564 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 10: every quarterback you throw an interception, you never ever forget it. 565 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 10: That's the thing I loved about Jackson Like it was 566 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 10: almost like he was brought to tears over it even 567 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 10: day ball, Like this team is going to rally around 568 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 10: this quarterback. 569 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 5: I mean they already have. 570 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a if you think about that quarterback draft class. 571 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: Pennix can play. He wasn't great last time at Penix 572 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: can play. Bo Nix is a franchise quarterback. Pennix is 573 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: Drake may Is Jayden Daniels bad year is Caleb's certainly 574 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: not a turnover machine. I mean Peyton. I mean Caleb's 575 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: not overwhelmed by the moment. He's on a four game 576 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: winning streak. He's just he's got to refine it. But 577 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: whether or not JJ McCarthy can play, we got four hits, 578 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: four franchise quarterbacks. So when I look at Jackson dart 579 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: I think cam Ward will be fine eventually. He has 580 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: no help here. I think the winner yesterday is also 581 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: despite the loss, is Brian Babel. You can't fire Brian Dable. 582 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: You can't. I mean Jackson Dart he is linked last 583 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: thing you want to do with Jackson Dart roll the diet. 584 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: Brian Dabele got Daniel Jones into the playoffs, and if 585 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: we put the Giant schedule up, they're going to be 586 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: in the discussion at least two Thanksgiving. You start looking 587 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: at the Giant schedule right now. So let's look at it. 588 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: Okay at Philly's a rough one. Niners at home, Bears, 589 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: Green Bay at Detroit's a rough one. 590 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 4: I mean, Colin, this schedule is devastating. Come on, Packers, Lions, Patriots. 591 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 4: Those are three like the top ten teams. 592 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 7: In the league right there. 593 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: I see, I see a seven win team. 594 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: Oh no way, give me the under. Their win total 595 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: was five and a half to start the season. 596 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean they end the year off a bye with 597 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: Washington Minnesota. 598 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 4: Teams fighting for playoff spots, not the Raiders. That's a win. 599 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: But I'll be shocked if they win seven games. O, 600 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 4: we're the next five wins. They're not beating the Eagles. 601 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: They're not beating then you. 602 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: Don't think they can at home beat and allows you 603 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: weather the Niners. You know, Mac Jones, if it's overcast, 604 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: you got a shot or that's what it's going to be. 605 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 4: Rock perty, my friend, and they're going to be at 606 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: full strength by then. 607 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 7: So yeah, I'll give you the Raiders. 608 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 4: I'll give you They're not going to Chicago to beat 609 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 4: your bears, are. 610 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: They listen to show? Even Sean Payton was impressed with 611 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart after the game. 612 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 11: It was a great win, good team effort to fight back. 613 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 11: Tip your hats to New York. Those guys have found 614 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 11: a new juice about them, and you could see that 615 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 11: on tape. You know, they found a little spark with 616 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 11: that quarterback. I was talking to John Mayer not too 617 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 11: long ago, and I said, we were hoping that that 618 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 11: change would have happened long long after our game. 619 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 7: Was that pro dark or anti Russell Wilson? 620 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, I think. I think if you're 621 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: a Giants fan, I think you found your guy. It's exciting. 622 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: It's why he is exciting. He's got this by the way, 623 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: he's got he's air. He's a great looking kid. People 624 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: are already making his mom a social media star. He's 625 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: a great looking kid. He played in a great college conference. 626 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: He played with Lane Kiffin for three years, so you 627 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: know he's dealt. Lane coach in the NFL. So we 628 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: got great college coaching. Brian Dables. An above average offensive 629 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: guy like Neighbors isn't even playing right now if he 630 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: needs another free agent class because they're not paying him anything. 631 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart needs another four draft picks to help that 632 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: O line. Maybe get another you know, get some help 633 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: at tight end who their tight ends are solid. 634 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 7: Well, here's not. So you're telling me you're keeping the 635 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 7: gm N Dable. 636 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to blow it up a 637 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: couple of performance. 638 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 7: You want to be the Jets dark? 639 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: You want to be the Jets. You want to be Carolina. 640 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 7: You want to be just might get the number and 641 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 7: pick buddy. Maybe you want to be that. 642 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who they picked, they'll screw it up. 643 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 7: Oh damn you. I'd probably right that. 644 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the last thing you want is chaos. Yeah, 645 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I look at the Giants. I don't 646 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: think they're that far away. They need another draft class. 647 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: They got to hit on three picks. That's it.