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Speaker 1: highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. JB. Handley

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Speaker 1: is the co founder and chairperson of the Generation Rescue. Now.

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Speaker 1: That's a not for profit organization focusing on helping children

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Speaker 1: recover from autism that was inspired by the journey of

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Speaker 1: his son, who was diagnosed with autism in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and four. He'll tell us about that. He's also the

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Speaker 1: co producer of the documentary film Autism Yesterday and the

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Speaker 1: co founder of the Age of Autism blog. Handley co

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Speaker 1: founded swander Pace Capital, a market equity for private firm

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Speaker 1: with about one point five billion dollars under management, where

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Speaker 1: he served as managing director for a couple decades. His

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Speaker 1: website is linked up at Coast to coastam dot com.

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Speaker 1: His book How to End the Autism Epidemic JB. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the program. Really great to have you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much for having me. I really appreciate it. What

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Speaker 1: a topic that I have wanted to talk about for

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Speaker 1: so long. And we will get into many facets of this.

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Speaker 1: But the statistics that I read the right before you

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, I need to update your

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Speaker 1: numbers for you in two ways. First of all, in

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Speaker 1: my book How to End the Autism Epidemic, I go

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Speaker 1: through the published science going back decades on the actual

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Speaker 1: prevalence of autism in the late nineteen seventies. Through very

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Speaker 1: very comprehensive studies, we have clear data that showed one

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Speaker 1: in ten thousand children had autism. The most recent numbers

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Speaker 1: out of the CDC are one in thirty six. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, those I wanted fifty and two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 1: So it's even a worse. It's a two hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy sevenfold increase, which is the same as twenty seven

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Speaker 1: thousand and seven hundred percent, so nearly a thirty thousand

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Speaker 1: percent increase. And you know, I'm almost fifty years old.

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Speaker 1: Anybody my age or older knows that something has gone

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Speaker 1: terribly wrong with the generation of children. We didn't know

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Speaker 1: anybody with autism. We didn't have peanut tables, we didn't

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Speaker 1: have EpiPens in the hallways of our schools. This is

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Speaker 1: all new information. I didn't know what autism was until

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Speaker 1: Rainman came out. And that's true for most of my contemporaries.

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Speaker 1: We're living in a very, very different climate, and we're

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Speaker 1: not asking the obvious question, why are so many of

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Speaker 1: our children so sick? Fifty four percent of American children

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Speaker 1: have a chronic illness. It's insanity and the reasons are

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Speaker 1: steering us in the face, and yet we're continuing to

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Speaker 1: have a debate. I just saw Rainman again on Cable

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Speaker 1: you know, a person who's a lot like the character

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Speaker 1: that Dustin Hoffman portrayed in that movie. In that movie,

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Speaker 1: autism is a severe and devastating disability. Roughly fifty percent

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Speaker 1: to most people unless they've lived it for themselves, and

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Speaker 1: I liken it to a man with a cane representing paraplegics.

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Speaker 1: And JB. Before we get into your case study and

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Speaker 1: what calibrates how you get an autism diagnosis. Is it neurological?

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Speaker 1: I mean, have the diagnosed that in the brain? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Not only have they diagnosed that it occurs in the brain,

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Speaker 1: shows that people with autism are suffering from brain inflammation.

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Speaker 1: They are literally in a permanent state of neuroinflammation that

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Speaker 1: all the things that we consider normal because their brains

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Speaker 1: aren't an inflamed state. We're going to get into some

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Speaker 1: of the causes of autism, and it's very controversial. Some

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Speaker 1: beginning to change their minds and agreeing with this. A

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, JB I had Robert Kennedy Junior

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Speaker 1: a proponent in people not getting vaccines basically, well, and

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Speaker 1: don't think Bobby Kennedy would tell you that he's against

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Speaker 1: regressing into autism after your vaccinations. And then finally, a

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Speaker 1: this is big, big news. Now are we talking about

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Speaker 1: because this is so important for parents to understand. In

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Speaker 1: billion dollars. We now have eleven license vaccines, which are

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Speaker 1: And so the first thing that I want to say

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