1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Flaky Biscuit is a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. We're ready to roll to ensure the integrity 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: of the catfish serve being served. Flaky and Hi, we 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: are ready to do it. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: Nick, Let's get it, y'all seek again. 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Baby, we really did it. We really did it this time. 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: Welcome to Flaky Biscuit. And today is very special because 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: I just cracked a beer. I'm about to crack another beer. 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: Crack it, crack. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: Here's baby. We out here with the homy pal. But 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: you already know Flaky Biscuit. In each episode, we're cooking 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: up delicious morsels of nostalgia. Today was one of the 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: most challenging meals I've had to prepare, all right, and 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: remember these meals and recipes have comforted and guided our 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: guests to success. All Right, each episode I'm making a 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: recipe from scratch, and y'all are in for a treat. 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: This recipe is fire. You know what I'm saying, because 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: you boy, you've been doing this for a minute. Listen, 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: you already know who I am on Brian Ford today. 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: I got something, something, I've got someone, I've got some 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: so very special in the kitchen today. I'm loving the 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans energy. My guest today is a star hip 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: hop artist Come On, who is breaking down barriers in 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: the music industry, literally exploding out of New Orleans scene 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: into the mainstream. His music videos have been featured in 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: Tom and Jerry the movie. He's traveling the whole world 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: rock and sold out shows. He's worked with multiple brands 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: like Rebok and Samsung. I can't even keep up with 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: how high you are going, my friend. We're welcoming Jared 30 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: pell pellerin to play Miskiny. 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 32 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, bro, thank you for being 33 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: here today. I'm extremely excited for this episode. Me too. 34 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: I'm excited for this catfish. 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: He's trying to bypass the pleasant trees here to the 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: listeners at home. Why don't you tell the listeners what 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: you had me make as you're a nostalgic meal today. 38 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: So what we have is catfish. We got mac and cheese, 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: and we got Kyler Greens. It's about to go down, yeah, 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: and it looks beautiful. I just I can't wait. 41 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna do something a little bit 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: bit different. Usually we'll talk, we'll banter and blah blah blah. 43 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: But because the fish is fresh out of the fryer 44 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: and it's hot, we are going to go straight into eating, 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna give y'all all the dirty details 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: about why this meal is nostalgic. I'm starving to I mean, 47 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: we just we're both sipping a light pills in her beer. 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: It's one o'clock in New Orleans on a Friday, like 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: we we about. 50 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: To throw it down bags, thank you? 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, now I here comes, here it comes. 52 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: We're digging straight in here, flaky biscuit. All right. He 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: hitting the mac and cheese mac first. He's hitting the 54 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: mac first. 55 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: You know, you gotta work your way around before you 56 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: get to the main. Oh god, we got the shell mac. 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna talk all about the shell mac. 58 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: Because I don't play with no elbows. We're going straight 59 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: into the fish. I'm gonna get a little ketchup on mine. 60 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: They don't cook like this down Under, do they not? 61 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: For our listeners, Pel was just us absolutely decimating the 62 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: music scene in Australia. For what were you for a 63 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks down there? 64 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was down there with my Buddy Young Franco 65 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: and we did Falls Fest, Elevate, Heaps Good, just a 66 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: bunch of festivals. It was my first time in Australia. 67 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: They have so much slang. It's wild. I think that 68 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: New Orleans has slang, and then I go down there. 69 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: It was like, you know, learning a new language. 70 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: Right. 71 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: They say heaps a lot, heaps like like this capfish 72 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: right now. I just cracked it over this heaps good. 73 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: That's what they were saying. 74 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: It keeps good, mic it heaps good. Mite. I don't 75 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: know what heaps means, but I'm assuming it's like banging a. 76 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: Lot or very very good. 77 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm getting down to. That's what I love about this podcast. 78 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: I just get to eat a bunch of food all 79 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: the time. 80 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: That's real. Do you eat everything that you put on 81 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: your Instagram story all the reels? 82 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Well? 83 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: Do you eat all that bread? What is your workout routine? 84 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, I don't. The reason I don't 85 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: is because for about three to four years I did. 86 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: Then I gained about sixty pounds. 87 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 88 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. So now I'm cooking, I just have to donate 89 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: it or give it to the neighbors like I usually 90 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: bring my neighbors a bag of bread. I'll pull up 91 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: and make pizza with extra dough. Whoever's around. I'm like, yo, 92 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: let me pull up with the other man. I got 93 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: all this dough. I can't be making this. 94 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: Wow, I got a wrapper. 95 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, do pull up with all this dough real quick. 96 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: God, I love it. That's also crazy that like that 97 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: you monitored that you gained sixty pounds. That's like a 98 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: lot to realize you gained. 99 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: The realization started to happen when my you know, my 100 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: mom loves me to death, but she'll let me know 101 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: how I look, like, Ryan, you need a hair good. 102 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: It's all love. And when she said my face was 103 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: looking puffy, I was like, ah shit, all right. Then 104 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: I kind of stepped back and I was like, man, 105 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: I eat so much bread. I'll be making all these 106 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: videos and testing recipes. I just did a cook book, 107 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty recipes. 108 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: I mean, let's go. 109 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do not taste them exactly, I mean 110 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: I gotta just ship them to me. Well literally, So 111 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: now that we got the hot food onto the plate, mouthful, 112 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: trying to talk and everything. 113 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: I'm not fighting it. This is beautiful. 114 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: We have a thing called the Clean Plate Club for 115 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: our guests who finish your plate. This was a heaping 116 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: Southern portion plate. You know, you can nibble on it 117 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: throughout the episode. So maybe you join a clean plate club, 118 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 1: maybe you don't. 119 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: Is that a challenge? 120 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: It is definitely a challenge. I definitely want my guest 121 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: to finish their food every time. But before we get 122 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: into the clean plate elements, before we even talk about 123 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: what you think about this particular dish that I cook 124 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: for you whenever you have a moment in between bites, 125 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: I would love to know what does this meal really 126 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: mean to you? The listeners are dying to know, and 127 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: so am I, so give it to me. 128 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: My first memory of having this dish brings me back 129 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: to before Hurricane Katrina. I used to always visit my 130 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: grandmother in Jackson, Mississippi, and when we were there, my 131 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: mom would always cook, my Grandma would cook, and then 132 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: my aunties would always cook, so the whole family was 133 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: cooking more so I feel like my grandma than everybody 134 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: else because she had the recipes up here. The memories 135 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: that I have associated with Jackson and like going to 136 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: visit my grandma are definitely catfish because we used to 137 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: either she would make it or we would go to 138 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: a place called cock of the Walk, Coca Cockadle Wa Walk. 139 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: We would go either to those two places, like my 140 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: grandmothers are there. And then the mac is something that's 141 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: like a family specialty because we have excuse me, we 142 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: actually have a cookbook. My family has a cook Yeah, 143 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: May's family cookbook is coming soon. So the mac and cheese, 144 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: which I actually have made this mac and cheese before. 145 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: Usually as like you know, some ritz crackers. It's like 146 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: a casse role. 147 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: You know, you got ritz cracker. 148 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually put elbows in it. Okay, all elbows. 149 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: We got mild cheddar, we got little mayonnaise, we got 150 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: a little salt pepper, and then we got you know, 151 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: a little garnish at the end with the ritz crackers. 152 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: You feel me, So I got a little crunch. So 153 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: I remember this because this is one of the first 154 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: dishes that I was a part of making, you know 155 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 2: what I mean. And I feel like that kind of 156 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: got me closer with the family because a family that 157 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: eats together stays together, and it's like a communal thing. 158 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: How long ago was that that. 159 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: I made it for the first time? Yeah, probably like 160 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: eight years ago. 161 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: Probably that you made it for you've been eating and 162 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: it was a hit. How about the college though, So 163 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: I braised those with ham hot That's how I get 164 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: down with it. But I'm curious to know, like, how 165 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: do you remember it? 166 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: Gosh, how I remember it too. You can't do one 167 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: without the other. There's a real good marriage, right yeah, 168 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: flavor profile out out the wazoo. 169 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: The boy picking up some new Australian coming out. 170 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: It's he heaps good Man and it's wall zoo. Oh 171 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: shoot prowns on the bobby. 172 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: Damn, you should do something. 173 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't even catfish out there. 174 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no they don't. 175 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: That's British. 176 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: Then stop. They don't eat caltfish in New York either. 177 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: People just don't respect catfish. That's real. You know what 178 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: It's called SWAYI You ever have a sway fill a? 179 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: It's like it's like another fish that's similar to catfish. 180 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: So when I'm like, when I'm in New York, I 181 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: go to the store say, I'm like, yo, y'all got calfish? 182 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: They say, yes, we have catfish. They show me and 183 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is swyy bro, this is not calfish. 184 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Some restaurants out here in New Owns trying to get 185 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: away with it too, because it's it's very, very cheap, cheap, 186 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: cheap fish. How do you tell the difference. The flavor 187 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: is grittier, Let's be honest. Catfish is not like the 188 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: cleanest fish per se. But I think the flesh of 189 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: catfish is clean to the palate. I think it's smooth. 190 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: I think it's buttery. When it's done right sway comes 191 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: out a little bit grainy, It comes out a little bit, 192 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: the texture gets a little rubbery, and it's just not right. 193 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: It's just not right. And so I had catfish once 194 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: at this place, and I was like, man, this this 195 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: must be that swy shit. Bro. 196 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: Also, while you were doing that, I just like put 197 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: the fork in again, and like, I think you could 198 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: even hear it. Watch listen to this here that flake. 199 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we definitely heard that. All right, So so 200 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: we got the catfish. If you're from the South, probably 201 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: somebody your family is cooking catfish. 202 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: Definitely. 203 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: So you said it was your how many aunts aunties 204 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: of cooking? I have got two months and they specialize 205 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: in the kitchen, right, Yes. 206 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: They're amazing. All of them are good. In the kitchen. 207 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: Y'all got a cookbook coming out, So it's like the 208 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: history is really running deep here. 209 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: Oh it's really yeah, shout out to the Mains family 210 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: that's on my mom's side. I look forward to every 211 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: family reunion. And also like with catfish too, it's funny, 212 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: like you said, being in the South, everybody makes it. 213 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: But also I feel like I have a special connection 214 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: with catfish because I'm allergic to shellfish. I'm from New 215 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: Orleans and I'm allergic to shellfish, right, so I could 216 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: never be the person eating crab, crawfish, all the other 217 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: things that people like to eat, shrimp, all that, and 218 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: that's crazy. Not your allergic. 219 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: Are we long lost brothers? 220 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: No? I don't know. Maybe maybe got the same haircut. 221 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: I have ever met someone else in this predicament, because 222 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: it's a predicament. It's people having the crawfish boiling you Like, 223 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: can you just make me some sausage on the side 224 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: with the corn and the mushrooms on the side. Yes, 225 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: that's what we gotta do. Yeah, has it been your 226 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: whole life. 227 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: Or the whole life? 228 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 229 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: Shoot, so you can't miss what you had never had? 230 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: I got it taken away from Oh my god, I 231 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: was fifteen eating the shrimp. 232 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: What did you do to deserve that? 233 00:09:59,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't know? 234 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: Can We asked that what did you do? 235 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: We was eating? Uh, I think my dad bought home 236 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: once it was like shrimp fried rice. And I started 237 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: having these crazy reactions. And my family thought it was 238 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: because I kept going in the woods in our backyard. 239 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: We thought it was like poison ivy. My face was 240 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: blowing up, breath happened two times, happened three times. You know, 241 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: my family was real. They gave me some vix and 242 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: a gatorade. It's like, go to your room. 243 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: Put it. 244 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: Then one day I'm eating the shrimp po boy, and 245 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: I had never gone into the woods or anything. I 246 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: was just eating it and and I blew up. And 247 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: that was the moment that I was like, man, if 248 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: I keep eating this, I'm gonna get hurt. 249 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: Damn. Well, I'm glad you're here today. 250 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: I am here today, epipenn and all. 251 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: But you. 252 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: Know it's funny. I was leave it at home like 253 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: I have one, and I never. 254 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: Bring it with me. 255 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: We are did you bring it to Anna? Bring it Astralia. Look, 256 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: I feel that management on the side is like no no, no, no, 257 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: my friend, I'm. 258 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Just kidding, but I'm very serious about I didn't bring 259 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: it with me. 260 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: All right. So I'm sure the listeners are wondering what 261 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: you thought of the meal. Before we get into your 262 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: thoughts of what I prepared for you and if it 263 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: brought you back to those memories, I'm going to actually 264 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: kind of explain a little bit of what I did 265 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: so that you have some context. We'll start with the mac. 266 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: I did not bake it. We got to talk about 267 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: this baked macaroni, baked mac and cheese versus just a 268 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: mac and cheese. I feel like it's a very contentious thing. 269 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: I think the type of noodle you use, like whether 270 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: it's a shell or an elbow, that's whatever. It's just 271 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: as pasta, right, But baking or not baking it, I 272 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: think changes the texture. So like I made a little 273 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: like kind of bechamel type sauce or a little roue whatever, 274 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: added the cheddar mild chatter. Actually, you know, I shredded it, 275 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of shallots and garlic powder into the 276 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: cheese sauce, a little bit of seasoned salt, and then 277 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: I just tossed it directly into the shells with shaved parmesan. 278 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: Oh my Golright, So I shaved some parmesan in there, 279 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: and then I added some crack, added some cracked black pepper. 280 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: For the collared greens, I got some beautiful fresh collars today. Actually, 281 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: they were some of the most beautiful I've ever gotten 282 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: from a grocery store. 283 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: They were. 284 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: They were so luscious and green. Very simply you got 285 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: some hamhocks, chicken stock, onion, garlic, seasoning. Let that kind 286 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: of boil up simmer. I threw in the greens, I 287 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: kind of let them braize a little bit. And for 288 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: the catfish, I do a double. So I do a 289 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: little station where there's three bowls home deep frying, one 290 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: on one for the listeners. Deep frying at home is 291 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: a pain, all right, because disposing of oil is difficult. 292 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: You cannot pour it down a drain. So three bowls. 293 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: The first bowl is just white flour. The second bowl 294 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: is three eggs, about a half a cup of milk 295 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: maybe less maybe a fourth cup and some seasoning. Whisked 296 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: that very well. And the third bowl is flour with 297 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: a bunch of seasoning. Could be seasoned saltlight Tony's could 298 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: just be paprika, kayen whatever you want to put dredge 299 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: blah blah blah and into the oil at three seventy five. 300 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: The oils three seventy five so that it doesn't burn over. 301 00:12:54,280 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: That's the process, my friend. Remember to check Shondaland for 302 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: the recipe. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Flaky Biscuits. 303 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: I think we're about time for the drum roll. Did 304 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: you go back in time when you ate this meal? 305 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: Yess, I'm seeing Mississippi roads. 306 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: Mississippi roads. Interesting, So explain out to North State Street. Yeah, 307 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: come on, tell me where it brought you back to, man, 308 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: tell me exactly what you're feeling already. 309 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: It really brought me back to Azalea Drive, which is 310 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: where my grandmother used to live. And going back to 311 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: behind her house, there was this little creek. We used 312 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: to go there after we would eat. It would be me, 313 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: my cousins, a couple of us, even like a lot 314 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: of us wound up living there after Hurricane Katrina. Like 315 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: it was like probably like eleven of us, and wow, 316 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: I know it's crazy. So we would go to this 317 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: little creek behind it created like me and my brother 318 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: and my cousins. I kind of just hang out. That 319 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: would be like the time to just have our little 320 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: version of adventure like when we were little kids. Yeah, 321 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: and I always associate that with after a meal, and 322 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: especially a meal like this. 323 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, damn, I'm really glad I brought you back there. 324 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: And I hope I brought somebody else back yeah, because 325 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: you know, I think part of my life is being 326 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: split because of living in New Orleans and living in Mississippi, 327 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: and like the connection is kind of there with the catfish, 328 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's a sudden thing, right, 329 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: it blends them together. 330 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: Right, No, that's true. I mean I think, especially being 331 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: in the South, like the food that we cook here 332 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: is indicative of your family life as well. You know, 333 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: I live in New York and the food there is incredible. 334 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: The food that you can find from every other country, 335 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: and you know, you find super authentic things from all 336 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: around the world, but the South is unique because what 337 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: people cook and and eat and what families gather over 338 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: it's that soul food. It's like a uniform for us 339 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: to wear in a way. It's like, you know, if 340 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: you go and visit your mom's house or something, you 341 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: expecting to put that uniform on. You ain't ordering Chinese, 342 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: We ain't ordering We might order a pizza every now 343 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: and then, Crew Mama, But you understand what I'm saying. 344 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: Like your relationship with the South, it almost starts with 345 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: food fast. And I think whether you're musician, a cook, 346 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: a baker, and a graphic artist, whatever it is that 347 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: you are, if you're in the South, I feel like 348 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: your relationship in life starts with food. It's like it's undeniable. 349 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: It's really. One of the first songs I ever wrote 350 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: was about jambalaya. 351 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: Really, it never came. It never came out. Surprise really, 352 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: So it's not it's not public, it's you send it 353 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: and we'll play it on the on the pod quick, 354 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: just like a snip. 355 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: It's just like a food is very important. Like you said, 356 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: it's the way that food, to me, especially in the South, 357 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: is communal. Everybody gathering around a dish, a table, a spread, 358 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: whatever you got. Music is the same for me too, 359 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: So like they're both communal type of arts in a way. 360 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: I think that cooking, especially this this art, how devoured it. 361 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: It's almost gone, almost part of the clean you will 362 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: be in time in a second. I'm talking right now. 363 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: But the idea of like sharing ideas and sharing that 364 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: time and quality time with people comes from being around 365 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 2: a centerpiece that's like tied into the community and the culture. 366 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: And I think food is that in the South just 367 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: as much as music is, you know what I mean, 368 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,239 Speaker 2: especially for New Orleans. 369 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. 370 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 371 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: And it's interesting that you bring up New Orleans. How 372 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: did you go from on the streets of Mississippi eating 373 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: up and play the catfish? How did you get to 374 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: become you know, world traveling, crowd rocking musician, you know 375 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,359 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, at what point did you realize 376 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: your calling wasn't music? And how did you use your 377 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: heritage from the South to kind of transform your ability 378 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: to grow? 379 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,359 Speaker 2: Wow, didn't happen overnight, but I think in the transition 380 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: from me realizing that I want to to do it 381 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: full time, I was in school at Mississippi State Go Dogs, 382 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: So I was there, and I feel like it started 383 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: with just the people that were surrounding me. I think 384 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: we were all Southerners, my collaborators at the time. Shout 385 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: out to that feel good. All of y'all know who 386 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: you are, you know, steel sharp and steel And I 387 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: feel like us all being creatives, kind of fueled one 388 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: another to take it there to the point where I 389 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: started touring around Starkville, which is where Missippi State is, 390 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: and then even further when I got my first manager. 391 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 2: Shout out to Chris. I wound up traveling the whole 392 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: East Coast, did like a little tour. Get a call 393 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: from three hundred, which is now known as a big label. 394 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: You know, they were just starting. So Lee or Cohen 395 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: calls me, and me and Wanner underneath Claiborne Bridge, like 396 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: I think he's eating shelfing. I don't even think I'm eating. 397 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: I think I was just chilling. And I get a 398 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: call and I answered, and it's like Lee Or calling 399 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, Atlantic Jam all this stuff, 400 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, one of the most powerful people in music, 401 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: especially to a kid, you know what I mean. At 402 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: that time, it was crazy, so like he was like, yeah, 403 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: this is a leor and I was like, what what 404 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: are we doing? 405 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: I go to LA. 406 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 2: I wind up traveling a lot more and started working 407 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: on things. I've never signed the deal, but made good 408 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: relations with a lot of the people, the producers that 409 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: I met. Shout out to lou Wig Gorenson and started 410 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: making an album and that was called Flow to Mall Dreaming, 411 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: And that was the first one. That was the first one. 412 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah about twenty fourteen. Yes, look you researched. I have 413 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: a laptop in front of me. So that was the 414 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 1: album you started making. That was the first kind of 415 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: like break. 416 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the first commercial thing because you know, 417 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: I kind of was in the era of the live 418 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: mixtape slash like that pith you know what I mean. 419 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: I was trying to get my like before it became 420 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: an album. There was an idea of can we put 421 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: this on live mixtapes and get like DJ Wallly Sparks 422 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: to like, you know what I mean, to sponsor this, 423 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: like shout out to Waally Sparks. But like the idea 424 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: of that project and how I came together is really 425 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: what made me start thinking big. A team started building. 426 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: I had a team in LA still have members of 427 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 2: that team. We really just started pushing stuff. So it 428 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 2: went crazy and there's a lot in between. Right, I 429 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: don't know what you want to talk about, but you 430 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: could be here for three hours. 431 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Then let's be here for three hours, Okay, all right, 432 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: now give it to me. 433 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: Noah, So like even in twenty fourteen into twenty fourteen, 434 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: I meet G Eazy. 435 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: You know, I went to college with him. What he 436 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: used to make music with this guy named Malcolm Connoncept. 437 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't know whatever happened to Malcolm, but it was 438 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: in the dorm room Beaver Hall, and I would work 439 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: out with this guy Malcolm, and I was like, yo, 440 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: I like to make beats, you know, it's like studying 441 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: a guy. Now make a little beats. And he's like, yeah, 442 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: you should come kick it with the homie in the room. 443 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: So I go and it's Gezy And I knew him 444 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: because he was performing at the Republican. He was doing 445 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: his little New Orleans blow up. 446 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: They used to have those electronic takeover it. Oh yeah, 447 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, him and my boy Christoph Anderson. 448 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: Christoph Anderson. Yeah yeah, shout out to all the anyways, 449 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: So shout out Gezy, shout out Loyola. I remember when 450 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: he graduated and everything, and like you know, obviously he 451 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: rose pretty quickly. And so the fact that you work 452 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: with him, that's yeah, insane. 453 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: It was cool to me too, especially like early, you 454 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 2: know what I mean. I had already heard of him 455 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: because of Christoph and Christoph was producing for him at 456 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 2: the time, and I remember seeing the electronic takeovers and 457 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: going there as a fan and just being like whoa, 458 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: Like yeah, And when we linked up, he would always 459 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 2: come back around and be like, hell, but I need 460 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: to hop on that eleven eleven, like, because it was 461 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: a song that I already had released, and I was like, dog, 462 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: it's already out, man, it's already like you know, because 463 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: I would perform it when I was on the road 464 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: with him. 465 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: He brought me on tour. 466 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: I did like four days with him on the Bit 467 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: of the Universe tour. I got to meet another really 468 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 2: talented dude from the city named Blizzy Okay Jeezy's drummer 469 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: I still is and Loyalty Club. Like, he's got a brand, 470 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: he's got everything out here in the city and does 471 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: really great stuff. It was really good to meet him, 472 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: and just the team that he had around him really 473 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: inspired me to take it to the next level. Like 474 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: I'm saying, like think big. So after that tour, go 475 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: to LA, get an agent, get a lawyer, get like 476 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 2: all of that figured out, and I want to move 477 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: to LA, but I don't have funds, so we're trying 478 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: to get a publishing deal. I wind up in the 479 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: interim of like trying to solidify the publishing deal, doing 480 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: a couple of more shows and whatnot. But I wind 481 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: up signing it with Pulse for Publishing, and that affords 482 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: me the opportunity to go to l a full time. Okay, 483 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: So during this time, I was working at Subway at 484 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: the airport, right because I was another type of artist. 485 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: I was a sandwich artist. 486 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: So I used to be I used to be. 487 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: I used to be cooking too, you know, double time. 488 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: It was funny because one of the last times I 489 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: showed up for work, I was joking because I was like, yeah, 490 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be here like tomorrow, but like they didn't 491 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: know that. I meant like, I'm gonna be here tomorrow, 492 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: flying to LA to leave, except for like the boss 493 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: knew that, but like everybody that I worked with didn't know. 494 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: But that was a really good feeling, like you know, 495 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: crossing the terminal and being like I'm not coming back, 496 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: and I actually did it, so so that was really funny. 497 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: But like once that started, when I was in LA, 498 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 2: just made connections and I wound up meeting Dave Cidik. Okay, 499 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: Dave Cidik is the producer and I guess you could 500 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: call him front man of TV on the Radio and 501 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: TV on the Radio is one of my favorite bands 502 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: of all time. You live in New York, you know, 503 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: they got their start in New York. I was like 504 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: an indie rock kid growing up, you know what I mean, 505 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: just as much as rap, just as much as anything else. 506 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: And he liked my music and wanted to work. So 507 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 2: we wound up working on a project called Limbo, which 508 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: to me, I wanted it to be a part of 509 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: Floating Wile Dreaming in a way, because I was working 510 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: on a Floating series which essentially was going to be 511 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: Floating Wild Dreaming, Limbo, Floating Wile dream Into and then Gravity. 512 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: I wound up switching the order of those last two, 513 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: but it was always meant to be a trilogy slash series, 514 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: and he was down for the idea and really challenged 515 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: me to make music outside of what's current and what's popping. 516 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: And I really thank Dave Siddik for that because it's 517 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: like a lot of times as a recording artist, especially now, 518 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: with like how trendy things are, you know, it's easy 519 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: to be like, oh, I have to do something that's 520 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: like current or this sounds. 521 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: How do I keep up? How do I do I 522 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: keep algorithm? How do I keep up with your trends? 523 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: How do I keep up with all the hot sound bites? 524 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: Is it funny? 525 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: It looks cool enough? 526 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: He allowed me to think outside of that, and like, 527 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: this guy doesn't even post rarely, you know what I mean? 528 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: Isn't that the goal to grow and not post? That's 529 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: when you know you. 530 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 2: I think at a certain point you have to let 531 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: the music speak for itself. And everybody comes to that point, right, 532 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: But I think that there is multiple different stages to 533 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: get in there. 534 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't look you got to play the game, can't escape, 535 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: got to play. 536 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: You gotta play your game, right, And I think that 537 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: he played his game well. He knows how to produce, 538 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: knows how to make records, and that's what he does. 539 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: I'm kind of similar, you know what I mean. I 540 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 2: know how to make a great song, hit song, whatever. 541 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: I wound up going to Caroline for distribution through Capitol Records. 542 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: That record for Limbo didn't really perform as good as 543 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: we wanted it to, but I wound up going on 544 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: tour off of that, which was really great. That tour 545 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: was a very special tour for me. I headlined my 546 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: own tour, my first one across this across the US. 547 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: Also before that, I met this wonderful person named Kaylannie 548 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: who took me on tour with her in twenty fifteen 549 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: and introduced me to a lot of the Bay Area 550 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: collaborators and stuff that I have to this day. Shout 551 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: out to Kaylani, Shout out on the heels of that. 552 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 2: I go on my own tour in twenty sixteen called 553 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: the Only in Your Dreams Tour. I bring with me 554 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: day Jack, Chaz French and Ji d Jid and it 555 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: was probably one of the best experiences I've ever had 556 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: in my life. Toured the whole US. Shout out to 557 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: my homies from Complex giving me free close. It was 558 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: like I was feeling, you know what I mean Now, 559 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: I was like I'm in it, you know what I mean, 560 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: Like we get some gear, some gear, and you know 561 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: what I'm. 562 00:24:52,600 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: Saying, We'll be right back after this. Stay tuned. All right, 563 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's just jump back in. So in this we' 564 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: talk about twenty fifteen, sixteen seventy. 565 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: Tour, now seventeen. Yeah, there's now seventeen. 566 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, what did you eat when you were on 567 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: the road, Like, how do you navigate finding comforting food 568 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: when you're not at home? 569 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: It wasn't about finding comforting food. It was just it 570 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: was about how do I not get ill on the road, Like, 571 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? On my rider at the time, 572 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: I had kale, salad, celery, carrots, a meil Beck you know, 573 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: I had a little and if they didn't have that back, 574 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: you know, I was slipping pinky up just a little different, 575 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: right that and a whole mango. Wow. 576 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: I would always really get you was getting your vitamins then, Yeah, 577 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: I had to keep it a little balanced because other 578 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: than that, you're eating like Mickey D's or whatever. You 579 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 580 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: I think that I was definitely trying to survive anything 581 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: cost efficient. Put this on my riders type of stuff 582 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: was what I was eating as much as I could 583 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: because that was going to be the healthy stuff. Anything 584 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,239 Speaker 2: else is like you know, five from them. 585 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: You already know you got to stop on the side 586 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: of the road to get the boot at or a little. 587 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't glorious. 588 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So bring me into how did you get 589 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: into you know, global warming? And then obviously floating wall 590 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: dreaming too. 591 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: During right before the pandemic, two very important things happened 592 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 2: in my life. I was in a session with one 593 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: of my good friends in Leak ninety five and Mika Jasper, 594 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: who's a producer. Both of them are producers, really talented 595 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: at what they do, and we were in a session 596 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 2: in LA and all of us are from New Orleans 597 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: and talking about how we didn't have anything to call 598 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: back on if we were in a different city, like 599 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 2: say I go to go to Philly, go to New York, 600 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: Like who am I linking with from the city that's 601 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: not a top top top up a list celebrity artists 602 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: that I've worked with. I think we wanted to bridge 603 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: a gap between the people that were already working in 604 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: the city and our friends that are in the city, 605 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: to have something that we could all call back on 606 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: business wise, to incentivize us to like link up more 607 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: and more together. 608 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: I love you know what I mean. 609 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 2: It was really about friends. And then when we were 610 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: in the session, we were talking about like, oh, we'll 611 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: just call it global warming, and like I was like, yeah, 612 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna call it global warming. So I like got 613 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: the little at I put a little Pangaea avvy for 614 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: like global warming. I don't even have the password for anymore. 615 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 2: Why we are different different accounts. 616 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: The vowels taken out because the Internet like copy like 617 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: trademark or something, or No, it's. 618 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: Really because we didn't want to mess with like the 619 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: SEO searches for like actual climate change, people that are 620 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: actually doing their work out there. I feel like it's 621 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: like have a little separate pot. 622 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: I didn't want to mess up the flow of climate conversations. 623 00:27:53,720 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: I mean, look, look, you're right just saying that beer, 624 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: but it's snowballed into something way bigger. I think we 625 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 2: think of New Orleans as such a fragmented even though 626 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: we're all closely knit together. You know, it's a small city. Yeah, 627 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: there's these different groups and these different clicks that make 628 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: people feel like, oh, these New Orleans are just don't 629 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: fuck with one another. That's not the case. I think 630 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 2: it's just we feel as though giving into other waves, 631 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 2: or like supporting other waves may take away from what 632 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: we have going on, which I feel like global warming 633 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 2: is exploiting as a myth, you know what I mean? 634 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: And I think we're all sharing each other's energy. That 635 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: doesn't mean like posting everybody stuff, but that means like 636 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: really showing up. 637 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Like real support human life, like. 638 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: Pulling up the shows, you know what I mean, buying merge, 639 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: like doing the real things that push the needle forward 640 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: business wise. And we did that, and so in twenty 641 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: twenty one, we released Global Warming Volume one and you 642 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: know double XL, Complex, INAACP, you know, all these people 643 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: supporting it, the mayor, but it was really the session 644 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: is that really inspired me to come back. And I 645 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: think what's bigger than that with the global warming community 646 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: is the sense of what we can do for the 647 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: community that helped inspire us. We teamed up with glass 648 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: hapt Full and did these five le four bracelets where 649 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: it was a recycled piece of glass. First off, let 650 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: me tell you glass app Full does glass recycling and 651 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: essentially they make sand and also are working on making 652 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: beads so that we don't have to buy our beads 653 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: from you know, China. They're trying to build jobs here, 654 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: et cetera and recycle at the same time, you know, 655 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: win win. So we teamed up with them to help 656 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: with that recycled effort and overwhelmingly had a good response. 657 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: We sold out other bracelets Fible four bracelets. You know, 658 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: the idea being, if you love your city, helped keep 659 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: it clean by coming buy and recycling glass. Bring that 660 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: glass here more that was the name of it, and 661 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: you know, we'll give you a ticket or a percentage 662 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: off of these handmade glass beads that have five before 663 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: indentation on them. So it was really cool to see 664 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: that and how people responding to it. And now people 665 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: have a relationship right with glass hat full from that, 666 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: hopefully we helped. 667 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it sounds like global Warming wasn't necessarily 668 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: a music first. It's almost like friendship and community first 669 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: with the byproduct of literal hit records. Fact fact. All right, listen, 670 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: I see you now you're kind of doing like a 671 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: DJing vibe or something like the pelloween and that, like, like, 672 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: so what's next for pell like well that. 673 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: You can talk about, I guess. I mean in twenty 674 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: twenty three, specifically, I feel like more solo records to 675 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: My Dreaming and released in twenty twenty one, and I 676 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: was able to go on tour off of that, which 677 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: was great. The past year, I've been basically doing more 678 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: features than anything I think it's really about refocusing and 679 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: refocusing on what stories I want to tell on my travels. 680 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: Like I'm big on the map method. My OG told 681 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: me this. Once you know, movement activates possibility map. Yeah, 682 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: so it's like you got to be out here and 683 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: you've got to be doing things. And I've been able 684 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: and afford it to see some things that people where 685 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm from and not every sea. Right, Incorporating that in 686 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: the music that I make and the message that I'm 687 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: given to the youth or whoever follows my music, who's 688 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: been following my music, is really what twenty twenty three 689 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: is about. 690 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: I love it. 691 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: So definitely new music coming soon. Yeah, definitely new global 692 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: warming music. 693 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: Yes, what you're gonna do to nine five? To the 694 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: listeners out there, make sure that you're listening to all 695 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: of Pell's music. Find it wherever you can stream music 696 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: at pell yeah on Instagram. Obviously, it is time for 697 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I prepared you for this. It's time 698 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: for our flaky game. Each game is different for each guest, 699 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: but it usually relates back to the dish that I 700 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: prepared as well as your profession. So there's some song 701 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: lyrics out in the world that mentioned catfish, And I'm 702 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: gonna and I'm going to test your knowledge and see 703 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: if you can tell me what artist is the performer. Actually, 704 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: one of them is chicken, two of them is catfish. 705 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I already have one in mind, but I. 706 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: Don't wonder if it's probably the one of them to say, 707 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: all right, I got dirty South mind blowing, dirty South bread, catfish, 708 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: fried up, dirty South fed, sleep in a cop picking, 709 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: dirty South bed, dirty South girls, give me dirty South? 710 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: Wow? Are we rolling? Why do I want to say? 711 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: I really don't know which is crazy? 712 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: What if I didn't do it in such a poetic 713 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: Let's see if I can imitate the artist? 714 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: Here we go. 715 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: No, I'm not even gonna try. I'm not dirty South 716 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: mom blowing, dirty South bread, catfish, fried up, dirty South fish, 717 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: sleep in the cop picking, dirty South bed, dirty South girls. 718 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: Give me Dirty South? 719 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: Isavid Benner. 720 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: No, this is ludicris. 721 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Southern hospitality. Oh my god, Sorry Luda, 722 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: Sorry for imitating. I mean, if you were going to lose, 723 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: use Luda chicken and beer, you said chicken. 724 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: I did say chicken. Yeah, Unfortunately you aren't gonna go 725 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: three for three. 726 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: But I still can go one for three. 727 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: Yes, so next we have hm hmmm, Fried Chicken, fly vixen, 728 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: give me heart disease, but I need you in my kitchen. 729 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: You a bird, but you ain't a key. You've got wings, 730 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: but you can't fly away from me. 731 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: One more time? Why what. 732 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: Fried chicken give me heart disease, but need you in 733 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: my kitchen. You a bird, but you ain't a key. 734 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: You got wings, but you can't fly away from me. 735 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: The song is called fried Chicken, No nas and buster rhymes. 736 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: I think, I think I forget what is the album? 737 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: I forget the album album. It's such a great song. 738 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: He talks about like the oil drippings. It's really great. 739 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I guess I came a little bit chicken. 740 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Fried chicken, heart disease, But need you. 741 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: In my Some old head is looking at me so 742 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: terribly right now. 743 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: There's no judgment, there's no judgment. 744 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: I want you to keep this. 745 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: Oh yes, we're keeping it all right. Last one. It's 746 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: not rap, all right. It is a very legendary musician. Though, uh, 747 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: no pressure. I'm gonna buy one hundred pounds of catfish, 748 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: cook it all up on the grill. Fix some beans 749 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: and corn bread. Everybody's gonna get their fill. Yea. I 750 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: really fell over on this. I really came a little 751 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: too aggressive on it. I came a little too strong 752 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: on this. I feel bad. 753 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: I am thinking you're gonna be like the bitching really bad. 754 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: You can't fish like. I'm like thinking very contemporaration, and 755 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 2: you're like, I don't know this one either. 756 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: This is bb King playing with my friends. Very good. Hey, 757 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: but you know what it is. That's just a random 758 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: song I've happened to hear. It's not like one of 759 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: the most popular hit singles or anything. 760 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no no. 761 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: That's good. 762 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:55,959 Speaker 2: That's good. 763 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: So listen before we let our listeners go, we're definitely 764 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: wanting to find out what organization means a lot to 765 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: you as you continue to grow in your career, so 766 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: you continue to help out the communities here in New 767 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: Orleans or communities wherever it is that you contribute. What 768 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: is the organization that is near and dear to your 769 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: heart right now? 770 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: For the horticulture is really near and deer especially, it's 771 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 2: like fam shout out to Nate, shout out to Crystal, 772 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: Crystal Sims. Cameraon heads it, and it's really important because 773 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: we're talking about food. We've been talking about you know, 774 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: we're here on the Flaky Biscuit podcast, and I feel 775 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 2: like last year or two years ago, you know, when 776 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: Hurricane Ida came through, we had a lot of conversation 777 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: about like food deserts and like how certain people weren't 778 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: able to like go to a supermarket in their neighborhood 779 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 2: or weren't able to get the food that they needed. 780 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: And oftentimes without something like that or Ida happening, people 781 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: don't really recognize that as a problem in their own backyard. 782 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: And I think what they're doing that for the horticulture 783 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 2: in terms of helping people find or have sustainable gardens 784 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: in their backyard and setting that up for them. We 785 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: actually help them last year make some seat starters and 786 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 2: like reusable edible gardens, which was really an amazing project. 787 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: I think that a lot of people don't realize how 788 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 2: valuable that is until they don't have it and a 789 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: disaster happens like that. But it's good to see that 790 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: people are forward thinking about those who need it. 791 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: That is, I mean, honestly, for the listeners out there, 792 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: make sure the Instagram. I think it's at for the 793 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: Underscore Wharty Underscore culture. Make sure you check out the 794 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: websites all the show notes. Can people volunteer while they're 795 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 1: here in New Orleans donate? We can kind of show 796 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: any kind of support possible. Food and security is very 797 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: very serious, especially in communities like this, so I appreciate 798 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: you bringing that to light and making that part of 799 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: something that you think about as you continue to tour 800 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: the world and have fun and make music. It's very 801 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: important that you're mate was down under last week, but 802 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: he's been here on Flaky Biscuit. Hell, thank you so 803 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: much for coming through. I appreciate you, man, like yeah, 804 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: tell you hell yeah baby. All right, man, my guy 805 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: a lay in the spirit of food and music. Two 806 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: of my favorite things here is Pell's unreleased track to 807 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: take us out. This is Jumbalaya exclusively on Flaky Biscuit. 808 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 3: I still remember Code November said to me as my 809 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 3: temper smelling love through the house, coming from the kitchen, 810 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: mama whipping up a present for young and gifted feeling. 811 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you so much for listening. If y'all want 812 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: my catfish recipe, find it on Shondaland dot com. I 813 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: know y'all don't want that recipe because let me tell 814 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: you something right now, When I fry a fish, it's 815 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: no joke, it's no game. I gotta see y'all, man, 816 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,479 Speaker 1: I want to see y'all frying up some fish. Tag 817 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,479 Speaker 1: me at Artists and Brian, tag pel At pell Yeah, 818 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: tag shondaland post your photos, post your videos. You know 819 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Let me see the oil sizzling. Get 820 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: into the discord. Chat with your fellow listeners. Chat with me, 821 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: Brian Ford. The advice I can give you here, make 822 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: sure your oil is right around three seventy five. Please 823 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: use the thermometer. Don't let your oil get too hot, 824 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: because then it's gonna turn brown and your oil gonna 825 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: get dirty. D d D dada. Fishing's gonna be cooked 826 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: right all right, three seventy five on oil. And remember 827 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: y'all do it for the horticulture. You can find them 828 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: on Facebook and Instagram at for the Underscore Hordy that's 829 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: h o RTI underscore culture. All those handles and the 830 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: link to the recipe are in the show notes for 831 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: this episode. If you like Flaky Biscuit, rate it, review 832 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: it five stars, ten stars, all right, does the best 833 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: food podcast ever exist? Make sure that you let everyone 834 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: know that. Let's blow it up, man, Let's make it big. 835 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: Flaky Biscuit is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, alex Alja, 836 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 1: Lauren Homan, Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our creative producer 837 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: is Bridget Kenna and our editor and producer is Nicholas Harder, 838 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: with music by Crucial. Rest from Flaky Biscuit can be 839 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: found each week on Shondaland dot com. Subscribe to the 840 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: Shondaland YouTube channel for more Flaky Biscuit content. 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