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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Is he Is Radioheads,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys app. Now your hosts Tyler Klutz, Christie Scales,

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Speaker 1: and Brad Sham. I'm Cowboys siline reporter Christie Scales here

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Speaker 1: with Tyler Klutz. We wish a happy new Year to

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Speaker 1: Brad Sham, who he'll be back at work after sundown

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Speaker 1: tonight helping with the Cowboys Hour. But happy new year, Brad.

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Speaker 1: And I think Tyler, that we need to rename today's

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Speaker 1: show instead of Radioheads. Whenever the Cowboys come out on

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Speaker 1: the losing end, you know, we've got an autopsy we

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Speaker 1: have to do, and so maybe we should call this

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Speaker 1: CS New Orleans after what happened. But what was your

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Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from the twelve ten loss? So, I think

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Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway is don't panic. I think after a loss,

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Speaker 1: you know everyone is so quick to say, oh, the

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Speaker 1: season's going down the drain. Kellen Moore is an awful

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator that can't throw the ball. Our offensive line

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Speaker 1: is no good. I mean, everybody all the things under

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Speaker 1: the Moon. People are saying now because we lost a

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Speaker 1: game to a really good team, But I would say this,

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Speaker 1: my biggest disappointment would probably be with the offensive line

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Speaker 1: and protection uncharacteristic of those guys. I think that we

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Speaker 1: had more trouble with the games that they were running

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Speaker 1: on their defensive line up front. Things that you would

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Speaker 1: see Zach Martin pick up one hundred out of one

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Speaker 1: hundred times, there was a couple that he'd missed. And

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Speaker 1: again we don't know all of the ins and outs

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Speaker 1: and what calls were made and who was supposed to

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Speaker 1: do what, but as a spectator and kind of under

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Speaker 1: staying in that blocking scheme that they do, there are

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Speaker 1: some things that it was just uncharacteristic of that unit.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what makes football so great. It's the ultimate

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Speaker 1: team sport, but one I mean, all it takes is

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Speaker 1: just one misstep or one little bit of a breakdown

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Speaker 1: for the whole play to collapse. But funny some of

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Speaker 1: the things you mentioned about Kellen Moore and about Dak

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Speaker 1: in the run game. We already have some questions that

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Speaker 1: we're going to address, but we invite everyone to call

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Speaker 1: going to help us field those calls. And again we'll

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Speaker 1: be monitoring Twitter. But let's see, we have a question

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Speaker 1: you talked about offensive line and a question sent in.

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Speaker 1: This is Carrie from Columbus, Ohio. Are we sunk without

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Speaker 1: Tyrann Smith? How bad is his ankle injury? How long

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Speaker 1: will he be out? First of all, carried the good

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Speaker 1: news sort of good news. It is the early reports.

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Speaker 1: It's a high ankle spring. That's good, but there are

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Speaker 1: degrees of high ankle sprains and so hopefully this is

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Speaker 1: one that is not several weeks. It may be shorter

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Speaker 1: than that. But Tyler, are we sunk without Tyrone Smith?

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Speaker 1: Or Cam Fleming a luxury to have in there, so

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Speaker 1: losing Tyrn that that hurts. I mean, you can't replace

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Speaker 1: little naive. Now, what I did like is although it

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Speaker 1: in that he got Dak hit from the backside, you know,

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Speaker 1: and so you've got to always be ready to go

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Speaker 1: But he did a very good job for being thrown

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Speaker 1: they're teeing off on you the different and in an

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Speaker 1: atmosphere that we'll talk about later. There's another question that

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Speaker 1: But again, he's got a bigger responsibility and big shoes

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Speaker 1: think we saw last night that was more pressure than

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Speaker 1: it had an effect. It did. And the thing about Fleming,

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Speaker 1: the thing, Tyler, it's the domino effect of these injuries.

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Speaker 1: And there's another one I want to talk about in

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Speaker 1: a bit with Cavon Frasier. And you say, Cavon Frasier

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Speaker 1: We're going to get an update later today from coach

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Speaker 1: But Cameron Fleming is the only tackle that has been

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Speaker 1: because then you'd have to make a corresponding move. But hey,

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Speaker 1: So so Nikki and Garland Texas says, how does a

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Speaker 1: were pumping in the crowd noise like crazy from your office.

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Speaker 1: You could probably hear it all the way at absolutely,

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Speaker 1: but that's necessary. And I think from an operational standpoint,

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Speaker 1: But I thought that Devin Smith might be in for

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Speaker 1: what is your thoughts of coach Garrett is like, he

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Speaker 1: cares more about those guys and those guys thriving not

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Speaker 1: just in football but in life as much as anybody

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Speaker 1: I've been around. So, I mean, I'm glad that it

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Speaker 1: came out on the sideline because I'll say this, there

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Speaker 1: are times that when I was playing, I wish I

433
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Speaker 1: was like, you have every right just to lose your

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Speaker 1: mind right now, like please just lose your mind. Well

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Speaker 1: that was about the video that Kayden just had up.

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Speaker 1: You could see the one right before Joe Jason with

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Speaker 1: the sunglasses, but you could see how he was beat red.

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Speaker 1: And Jason, I guess it's okay to tell this. I

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Speaker 1: put it in my Dallas Morning News live chat today.

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Speaker 1: But Jason's nickname as a player, at least with the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys was red Ball. Babe Laffenberg stuck him with that.

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Speaker 1: They called him big Red. And then it's because Troy

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Speaker 1: Aikman was eight ball because it wore number eight, and

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Speaker 1: so Babe had called Troy, dubbed Troy eight ball. So

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Speaker 1: Jason was red ball because of the red hair, obviously,

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Speaker 1: but yes, he was so mad, I mean literally beat red.

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00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: He was redder than his hair. And Carl Scheffer's was

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Speaker 1: the referee last night, and oh man, they probably were

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Speaker 1: on the field an extra minute and a half to

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Speaker 1: two minutes after the teams had cleared. The players were

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Speaker 1: already in the locker room. So hey, we're we're well

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Speaker 1: over halfway through our time. And again, if you'd like

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Speaker 1: to call it's eight eight eight eight five five two

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Speaker 1: two nine seven that we have one Kaden, you said, yes,

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Speaker 1: we have Joe. Okay, Joe, what's your question? Hey, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing great? Um? I have actually just a

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Speaker 1: couple of comments and a question. Um, it's far as

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Speaker 1: the safety position. My concern is that the players that

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Speaker 1: we have at the current safe position, Uh, they either

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Speaker 1: the night is quick or they may lack the side

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Speaker 1: when it comes to play in that position as far

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Speaker 1: as toughness and the speed to keep up with the

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Speaker 1: elite receivers around the league. Um. The second second question

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Speaker 1: is our in TWI yeah, uh, defensive defensive line. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if we have if we

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Speaker 1: have the personnel to um to keep up with the

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Speaker 1: with the elite team. Now, Joe, or are you including

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Speaker 1: Antoine Woods and Tyrone Crawford in this because they were

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Speaker 1: both injured and missed their second consecutive games. So yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're you're saying, you're saying full full roster without injury,

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Speaker 1: you trusting. I believe Blew and Silver. I'm here in

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Speaker 1: the Great Eastern Area and you know they hate Dallas. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm from Dallas, Man, So yeah, I don't understand. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's you know, I just looking at these these

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Speaker 1: games they've gotten beaten in when he when there's like

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Speaker 1: low scoring and teams are able to run on the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys like Kamara last night he had he didn't have

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Speaker 1: I don't think he had ninety yards, but it was

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Speaker 1: the yards that he had. They were like quality movie chain,

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Speaker 1: movie chain yards. He did convert some third downs, but

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Speaker 1: he actually finished with sixty nine yards on seventeen carries,

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Speaker 1: so four point one average. But yeah, Joe, thanks for calling.

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Speaker 1: And so actually, let's talk about the safety position first,

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Speaker 1: because I want to get back to an injury that

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Speaker 1: we alluded to earlier, and that's Cavon Frazier, who technically

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Speaker 1: is back up safety behind Xavier Woods and Jeff Heath.

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Speaker 1: But that pectoral injury that he suffered, it was late

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter. He did not return to game action,

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't going to get a lot of snaps

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Speaker 1: on defense. But he and c J Goodwin are our flyers,

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Speaker 1: are gunners on punt coverage, and CJ is fantastic. Cavon

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Speaker 1: two years ago, I would have argued should have been

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Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. He and Chris Jones. They flipped

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Speaker 1: as the punter in Cavon Flying Down. They flipped the

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Speaker 1: field in so many games at Cavon struggled some you know,

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Speaker 1: playing through some tweaks last year, you know, not as

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Speaker 1: strong last year, But this is a real blow to

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Speaker 1: UM special teams. Could you talk to Yeah, the importance

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Speaker 1: of it, the impact of special teams is huge, and

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Speaker 1: so I mean, you even look at how much we

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Speaker 1: value special teams that are starting safety is still the

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Speaker 1: personal protector on punt and Jeff Heath, right, and he

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Speaker 1: has not come off of that. It's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: So if you've got a guy that can fill in

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Speaker 1: adequately at safety and excel on special teams go down,

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Speaker 1: that's a huge hole because there aren't those bodies just

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Speaker 1: out there everywhere, right, And that's a hard guy. You

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Speaker 1: can't hard guy to find off the street because teams

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Speaker 1: really do value that specialist special teams player. And so

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Speaker 1: Cavan has been that guy for us for three plus

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Speaker 1: years now, right, Yeah, so he's in his into his

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Speaker 1: fourth season, and so I mean he's a guy that

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Speaker 1: that we can count on to run down on punt

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Speaker 1: as a gunner, make the tackle. He's a that runs

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Speaker 1: down I'll kickoff. He's in on almost every single kickoff

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Speaker 1: tackle that we have UM. And then also is a

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Speaker 1: is a corner and plays on punt return and is

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Speaker 1: an effective hold up blocker on punt return because he's

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Speaker 1: a stout guy. He's not one of these slive, skinny ones.

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Speaker 1: He's he'd be more like strong safety up in the

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Speaker 1: box than you know, free safety playing back. And Jane rentioned,

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Speaker 1: you know that our safeties are not that quick, or

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Speaker 1: they're not that big, or they're not Jeff physical. That's

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Speaker 1: and Joe, hey, I appreciate, I appreciate your opinion. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's it's hard to tell on TV, right because you're

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Speaker 1: looking at these safeties next to you know, Layton vander

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Speaker 1: esh who's all of six four, right, or Byron Jones

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Speaker 1: was right, and so you're looking at these guys and so,

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Speaker 1: but they are not small guys like Jeff is is

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Speaker 1: six one six two. That's a big safety. He's a

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Speaker 1: big safety, and he's physical. I mean, Cavon, same deal,

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Speaker 1: Savior Woods, very very physical. Those guys will come down

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Speaker 1: and they'll hit you. They're not afraid of it. To

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Speaker 1: play in Rod Marinelli's defense, you have to be that

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Speaker 1: type of safety. And so I agree to disagree. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be politically correct. And Joe, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the opinion. But I would I would say that that's

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Speaker 1: probably not the case now. Um, from a coverage standpoint,

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Speaker 1: are those some question marks? I think yeah, We've still

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Speaker 1: got to answer some of those. You know, Xavier Woods

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Speaker 1: has shown that he can cover pretty well. Jeff is

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Speaker 1: just an all around good safety, right, he can come down,

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Speaker 1: he can fill the run, he can cover deep. He

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Speaker 1: you know, he covers deep third really well, and he

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Speaker 1: covers ground as well as any safety in the league. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think you'd like to see more picks. I think

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Speaker 1: he'd like to see more turnovers in some takeaways. But

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Speaker 1: we have a good safety core, Like, we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys that we can plug in and if

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Speaker 1: if Jeff goes down needs a breather, Cavon goes in.

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Speaker 1: You don't you don't see us calling out Cavon as

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Speaker 1: a whole or a liability, or Xavier goes down, another

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Speaker 1: guy comes in. It's it's not when they're out. It's

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Speaker 1: not like, oh my gosh, we're exposed now like back

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Speaker 1: in the day, like if if Ed Reid goes down,

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Speaker 1: you know, when he's down, that's a yeah, they lost. Well.

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Speaker 1: Darien Thompson who stepped in and started for Xavier Woods

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Speaker 1: in Week three against the Dolphins graded out very well,

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Speaker 1: and again that's like a luxury. It's like having Cam

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Speaker 1: Fleming stepping in at left tackle, or a guy like

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Speaker 1: Christian Covington, who had been a starter for the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans stepping in for Antoine Woods at defensive tackle. And

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Speaker 1: we'll address the defensive tackle in just a moment. But

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Speaker 1: Darian Thompson did have to finish the game last night,

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Speaker 1: so I invite Joe and everybody, all the other members

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Speaker 1: of Cowboy Nation. We'll have an update on Xavier Woods

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Speaker 1: with after Coach Garrett's press conference. But he came out

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Speaker 1: of late in a fourth quarter and wasn't able to

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Speaker 1: finish the game. Thompson went back in. We think he's

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Speaker 1: going to be okay, but we'll know more going forward.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about defensive tackle because I know Joe's

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Speaker 1: not the only one thinking. And here we are like

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Speaker 1: bagging on a defense that didn't allow a touch down

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Speaker 1: and four field goals. But we understand field the same frustration.

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Speaker 1: So how did you assess the defensive line play yesterday?

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Speaker 1: And again they were without two starters with Woods and Crawford. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would have liked to have seen a little bit

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Speaker 1: more integrity in their rush lanes, Like Bridgewater had some

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Speaker 1: time to slip out when he's not known as a

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Speaker 1: running quarterback, and so he had he had the ability

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Speaker 1: to move around and make some throws, some checkdowns that

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Speaker 1: he probably shouldn't have obviously. Robert Quinn great, great to

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Speaker 1: see him come off like that. Um, DeMarcus obviously he's

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Speaker 1: always he's always an issue, always applying pressure. But DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: was playing on a gimpie ankle last night, and I

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Speaker 1: mean he really really toughed it out, that's right. But

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Speaker 1: from the interior perspective, Taryn Crawford being gone, that hurts us, right,

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Speaker 1: and that hurts from from a strength aspect where he

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Speaker 1: can push the pocket and he's you know, pulling in

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Speaker 1: tackles and alleviating some of the pressure for DeMarcus and

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Speaker 1: Robert Quinn. But then I mean having Antoine Woods out too,

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Speaker 1: that's more deaf. And if you watch our defense and

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Speaker 1: you watch coach Marinelli and what he does, you see

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman rolling out all the time. Yeah, they're constantly

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Speaker 1: because he wants those bodies to be fresh. Yeah, do

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Speaker 1: you see Carrie Hyder in there, you know, rotating in

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00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: and give him Elik Collins a blow and then Malik

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Speaker 1: can come back and make big plays like he did

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Speaker 1: a couple of plays ago there. And there's a good

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Speaker 1: rush off the edge there, and that was Robert Quinn.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I like that. I like that dance just

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Speaker 1: as much as the little pony thing from the week before.

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Speaker 1: But the great pressure up the middle on for Hyder

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Speaker 1: who puts it into Jalen Smith there and that boy

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Speaker 1: was that the biggest brain Dead player by Teddy Bridgewater.

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Speaker 1: And then he saw Drew Brees's face on the TV

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Speaker 1: copy and just like, oh, the one thing you couldn't do,

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Speaker 1: but valuant effort by the defense. We're hopeful that Antoine

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Speaker 1: don't know yet, but hopefully Tyrone Crawford and Antoine Woods

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Speaker 1: may be able to work their way back in at

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Speaker 1: least and limited now on a limited fashion in practice

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Speaker 1: this week, we hope, because it's it's getting that. We

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Speaker 1: got another call here, so Caden helped us out here. Hi,

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Speaker 1: we got Ronnie on from New Jersey. Oh all the

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Speaker 1: way from New Jersey. Thanks Ronnie. What's your question? How

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Speaker 1: are you guys doing? One question is based more on

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Speaker 1: the officer the officer game plan. I mean, for what

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Speaker 1: I saw last night, it seemed like we've reverted back

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Speaker 1: to what we were last year, like one of Jason

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Speaker 1: Gallatt Moore type of offensive game plan. Because there was

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Speaker 1: like nine ten min on the box. Man just saw her.

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Speaker 1: I kept on trying to run. I mean I heard

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Speaker 1: something like when Tyler was talking earlier, said something about

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Speaker 1: more like, uh to a fault. Jason's a little bit stubborn.

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Speaker 1: You could have ten men. We're gonna do what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do, and we're gonna run through that mine. I

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Speaker 1: mean inter that Kellen Moore's more what he's here for,

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Speaker 1: like change it up a little bit to Scott Lenahan. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks Ronnie. Yeah, that's a that's a good question. And

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Speaker 1: here's here's the thing. When I say coach Garrett stubborn,

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Speaker 1: I think that it's more of a mentality that he's

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Speaker 1: trying to instill in the team and that listen, we're

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Speaker 1: going to be confident in who we are and what

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Speaker 1: our strength is. We know that we're a strong run team.

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Speaker 1: We're built that way. Our offensive line, that's how we

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Speaker 1: built them is so that we can be effective and

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Speaker 1: we can control the entire game by being able to

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Speaker 1: run the ball. So with that being said, every time

639
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: that a team puts eight people in the box, if

640
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: you just don't run the ball, then you're not you

641
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: don't have that mentality like this is who we are,

642
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: this is our personality, because you're not going to take

643
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: away our strength just by putting bodies in the box.

644
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: And so you know, yes, there's there needs to be

645
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: some creativity, there needs to be some adjustments because when

646
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: they're putting that many people in the box. But there's

647
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: different run schemes, there's different you know, different types of

648
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: plays you can run out of different personnels. One thing

649
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: that Kellen does a good job of is he runs

650
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: a lot of the same plays of different very different

651
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: looks and so you know, yes, it may look like, yeah,

652
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: we're running the ball, but there's a very different approach

653
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: to this. And so when when they're putting that many

654
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: people in the box, there's some things I think that

655
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: you know, again as a fan and totally a couch

656
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: quarterback on this, there's some things that like I would

657
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: have liked to have seen, right, Like I would have

658
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: liked to have seen a little bit more, a little

659
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: bit more on the screen side. I think that we

660
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: could have taken advantage of that with Cam Jordan coming

661
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: up the field so hard, I think we could have

662
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: an interior pass rushing to like the last one we

663
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: just saw. I mean that was interior rushing. You never

664
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: see that or rarely see it against Martin and Travis fred.

665
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: But the challenges too is we're light on receivers and

666
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: you don't think, Okay, what do the receivers have to

667
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: do with the run game, But they play a huge

668
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: role in one pulling people out of the box because

669
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: they respect the receivers that you have out there. But

670
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: then two also like blocking from the edge, and so

671
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of corners and a lot of

672
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: safeties coming down and making tackle because our receivers were

673
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: light on that aspects. Who were putting Jarwin in and

674
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: we're putting Win in a lot of twelve personnel, where

675
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks we ran a lot

676
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: more eleven personnel with three receivers, tight end and a

677
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: running back, and we just weren't as effective with that,

678
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: I think as we have been in the past. But

679
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't think the creativity went away. It just looked

680
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: very different when your lines getting whipped on some of

681
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: those plays not and it went in every play, but

682
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: there was more up the medal for Dak to contend

683
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: with than there has been in the previous games. That

684
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: is that fair? Is that fair? Yeah? Okay, Hey, before

685
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: we go, let's hit a couple more of the questions here.

686
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: So go ahead, Yeah, New York, Mike, So this is

687
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: along the same same lines space. So we've heard from

688
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: New Jersey and New York today. Okay, come home, guys,

689
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: love it. What did you guys think of Kellen Moore's

690
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: play calling? Didn't seem as creative as a first three games?

691
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: Same point, right, like it, you can't just like draw

692
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: up plays and just run whatever you want against whatever

693
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: whatever they show you, right they when the defense shows

694
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: you certain things in certain tendencies, you've got to be

695
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: able to count for that. And although they you know,

696
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: we don't see you know, the end a rounds or

697
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: the fly sweeps or um. You know, these creative things

698
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: that we expect of killing Moore because he's a Boisey

699
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: State guy. Like that's that The creativity comes from a

700
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: lot of different aspects, like how are we moving guys,

701
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: how are we showing if we've got man coverage or not?

702
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: What a what a our route progressions look? Who are

703
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: we going to attack when we run the ball? What

704
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: are our blocking schemes look like? How are we going

705
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: to count for those guys? A lot of the things

706
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: that we did early on in the game that were

707
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: successful as we were moving the ball. Unfortunately we lost

708
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: the ball. But just because it's not so clear as

709
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: to these like wild like Sean McVay plays right, doesn't

710
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: mean that he wasn't being creative and so it's there's

711
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of execution exactly execution, and you can

712
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: see the one there that the ball was just slightly

713
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: behind Randel cob. Now Randall will be the first to

714
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: say I need to catch that, But there were just

715
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: some passes that were off and that one wasn't necessary

716
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: so much. And pass rush there but just a little

717
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: often than the one that you saw earlier. Were Amari

718
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: Cooper one on one, A lot of more made a

719
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: good play. You know you gotta win in but it

720
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: goes back to Izzie totally healthy on that ankle. Let's

721
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: do a couple more questions before we go this is

722
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: Josh from Tyler, Texas. What's it like on the ride

723
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: home with the team after such a disappointing loss. Well,

724
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: the good news, Josh is last night we were in

725
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: the air for less than an hour because it was

726
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: New Orleans. But I guess we got home. We actually

727
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: were a little early, got home about one fifty in

728
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: the morning or so just before two am. But um, Tyler,

729
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: you left too soon because now we have these big

730
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: American airlines seventy seven seventy seven. Yeah, they're huge, and

731
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: so I missed the stars. Well so so the coaches

732
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: and executives are up in first first class, but there's

733
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: these awesome like I don't know, it's ultimately yeah, the

734
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: ones LA are the bed So the way that they

735
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: do it is the players with the most tenure. So

736
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: it's like, well, LP Latissar, well he has the second

737
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: most tenure on the team behind Jason Witten, so he's

738
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: got one of the beds. Dak Zee, Travis Frederick, guys

739
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: like that, and Jeff Heath to get the beds. And

740
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: then you have the media, some staffers media, uh, and

741
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: then the rest of the team is in the back

742
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: of the plane. What would be coach. I know, the

743
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: coaches are in first class, but the players are in

744
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: coach no coach section, but they get seats end between them.

745
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: But it's still I mean, there's not a lot of

746
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: leg room for these big guys. But anyway, um, obviously

747
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty somber on a ride home. But it's

748
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: not the party that I shouldn't say party because that

749
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: has certain kind of it's alive. It's not a live Yeah,

750
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: it's alive, that's for sure. Yeah. Back in now, back

751
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: in the old days, from the nineties, I mean, there'd

752
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: be card games going and I'm just talking about the

753
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: media section now, but you know, everything was not as

754
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: sequestered and it was just out there and stuff like that.

755
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: I'll say this, there is a lot more film watching

756
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,479
Speaker 1: on the way home after a loss because you're trying

757
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: to prepare yourself for the next day's meeting. Yeah, when

758
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: you come in and when you're about to get rich, well,

759
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, and when you say that, it's it's the

760
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: they do the Microsoft surface tablets. I can tell you

761
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: that the coaches as they're getting as they're leaving the

762
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: locker room, go through the security, get on the bus.

763
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: Robert Blackwell and his video crew are handing them the

764
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: surface tablets and it's already got the plays where they

765
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: can just go through defensive coaches get the defensive plays,

766
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: offensive you know, and so on so on special teams,

767
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: and they have already gone through all the plays in

768
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: the game, probably a couple, you know, at least once

769
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: before they even get on the plane. So it's a

770
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: lot technology has changed things. They usually have watched the

771
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: game two times through by the time they get off

772
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: of the plane. Most of the timelet yeah, most of

773
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: the times they'll do they'll do a lot of their

774
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: grading and and all that before they even get off

775
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: the plane, which it helps because they're back in the

776
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: back in the facility first thing in the morning, so

777
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: they may be able to see their family first thing

778
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: in the morning after a late game, and then they're

779
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: they're in. But it is it is. The ride home

780
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: is it's not fun, especially if you're making that cross

781
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: country flight. That's that's the that's awesome. Seattle's usually the worst.

782
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: That's about four and a half hours and invariably it's

783
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: a well, it's always a late game. It's at least

784
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: to three twenty five because it's a Pacific coast, which

785
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: should be one twenty five their time or one PM's Pacific.

786
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: But anyway, um, yeah, when there's a Monday night game

787
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: or a Sunday night game, the team usually gets in.

788
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: We get in about four or four thirty in the

789
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: morning because it's whether it's from New York or Philly

790
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: or LA or something like that. One more question that

791
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: I want to fit in because I want to give

792
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: a pat on a back, pat on the back to

793
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: a couple of radio crew members. This is Gary in Frientwood, Texas.

794
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: Hey Christy, another nice job by the radio crew. But

795
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: where wis Bradsham Will Will he be back for the

796
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: Packers game on Sunday? The answer is yes, Brad will

797
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: be back, and he was observing Rasha Shawna. So again,

798
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: happy New Year to Brad. But because the game was

799
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: a Sunday night football game and after sundown, Brad he

800
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: stayed at home and he didn't broadcast because you're not

801
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: supposed to work after sundown in his faith. And so

802
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: he will be back for the Packer game. But I

803
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: just want to give a shout out to Ted Emrick

804
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: who filled in for Brad play by play and also Brandon,

805
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: who is the spotter filling in for Sam and Jake.

806
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: But ted Emrick is he does a lot of Westwood One,

807
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: he does Olympics. I'm sure you've heard him college football,

808
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: college basketball. But Teddy grew up in Dallas and he

809
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: is the son of Roger Emrick. So if you've been

810
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: to a Cowboy game in the past several years, you've

811
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: heard Roger's voice, booming voice as the PA announcer for

812
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys games. And Roger passed in the spring, and

813
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: he's a longtime sports voice in Dallas radio. And Teddy's

814
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: a son I've known since he's like ten years old

815
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: and now he's big time announcer. So thanks for stepping

816
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: down and slumming with Cowboys Radio. But thank you Teddy.

817
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: You did a wonderful job. And same thing with you, Brandon.

818
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: So final thoughts heading into a week where you got

819
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: to observe the twenty four hour rule, win or lose. Yeah, yeah,

820
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: So you got to decompress and you got to take

821
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: it a step back and you got to breathe. But

822
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: then you've got to be very critical. Um, you have to,

823
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: as you should after a win as well. I think

824
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: you know like Bill Belichick is notorious for. I really

825
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: love wins and coaching hard on that, but losses there's

826
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: even more to learn, right, and so there's a lot

827
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: to learn. You know, there's there's no excuse in this

828
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: game because it's one percent performance based how how well

829
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: do you execute on Sundays, because that's all that matters.

830
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of things that did not

831
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: go our way in the game, but we have to

832
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: own up to that and we have to correct those mistakes.

833
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot out there. Um. I would say this though,

834
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: I think if you're a fan and you're listening, if

835
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: you're a fan of the Cowboys and you're listening to

836
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: this right now, don't be discouraged. Uh, this is a

837
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: great team and can accomplish a lot of really really

838
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: good things. Um, there's a lot of things I liked

839
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: about that team. The fight never quit never and so

840
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: you know that one is that alone. You should be

841
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: proud of the guys because the character of this team

842
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: is the right is the right character that we want, right,

843
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: and so, um, don't panic, don't don't write off the season.

844
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: We've got a back. We got back to back really

845
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: tough games. I mean, Green Bay is a really good team. Um,

846
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: They've always given us issues. Um, and so we need

847
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: to show up and we need to fix a lot

848
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: of those mistakes. Hopefully we can get healthier this week,

849
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: and the ones that the guys that they got hurt

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