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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. I'm Buck Keith Clay, and we have

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Speaker 1: some breaking news for you right now. We've been discussing

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Speaker 1: the January sixth Committee, the insurrection as they call it,

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Speaker 1: even though not a single person involved has been charged

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Speaker 1: with insurrection or rebellion in fact, mostly just trespassing, some

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Speaker 1: destruction of property, and some people who assaulted law enforcement. Generally,

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Speaker 1: the left is fine with assaulting law enforcement as long

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Speaker 1: as it's under the banner of BLM or Antifa. But

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Speaker 1: we're going to have to go through this again with

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Speaker 1: the January sixth Committee, which is really just meant to

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Speaker 1: make sure no one spends time thinking about how ineffective, absurd,

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Speaker 1: and blundering Joe Biden and his entire administration have been

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Speaker 1: so far. So we're gonna hear about the threat to

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Speaker 1: our democracy every day from now until the midterms. Get

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Speaker 1: ready for it. And that's always the tell among lib

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Speaker 1: journos when they use the term threat to democracy, even

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Speaker 1: in the context sometimes of justifying their own threats to democracy,

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Speaker 1: like oh, I don't know fleeing the Texas State Capitol,

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Speaker 1: halting the business of the Texas Legislature because they're upset

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Speaker 1: about something. But the breaking news for you is that

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Speaker 1: the is that the GOP is pulling McCarthy is pulling

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Speaker 1: all Republican members from the January sixth committee because Speaker

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Speaker 1: Pelosi vetoed the appointment of Representative Jim Banks and clay

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Speaker 1: our friend Jim Jordan, who we think will be having

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Speaker 1: on later on in the week. Turns out Pelosi really

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Speaker 1: doesn't want doesn't want fighters who know this game on

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Speaker 1: that commission. I wonder why, well, and I mean this,

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Speaker 1: I think you were prescient on this because ultimately this

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Speaker 1: is going to be what the Democrats are left with,

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Speaker 1: right because they're not going to be able to run

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Speaker 1: on crime, and we're going to get into that in

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Speaker 1: a little bit because of the rampaging rates of crime

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Speaker 1: accelerating across the country, they're not going to be able

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Speaker 1: to run on certainly the economy with inflation roaring back

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Speaker 1: where it is right now. We'll see whether this massive

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Speaker 1: multi trillion dollar budget can get through or not. The

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Speaker 1: border is a disaster, and so if you're trying to

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Speaker 1: play where can you focus and argue that you've made

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Speaker 1: a tremendous difference. I think they're going to be left

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Speaker 1: with COVID if COVID continues to decline and the insurrection.

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Speaker 1: In other words, if you vote for Republicans in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two, they are going to be saying you are

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Speaker 1: threatening the very core of democracy because look at what

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Speaker 1: happened in twenty twenty right, And they're just gonna keep

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Speaker 1: beating this dumb drum over and over again. Don't look

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Speaker 1: at results, don't don't look at the inflation, don't look

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Speaker 1: at the border. The borders the worst it's ever been.

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Speaker 1: We talked to Senator Ted Cruz about this yesterday. Don't

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Speaker 1: don't pay attention. Don't listen to your lying eyes or

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Speaker 1: your ears or whatever. Listen to what you know Jen

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Speaker 1: Saki Bomb has to say about the situation. That's what

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Speaker 1: they want you to know. But but speaking of your

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Speaker 1: eyes and what you can see, and Clay mentioned this,

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Speaker 1: you may have seen another Let's be clear, this is

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Speaker 1: not the first time this has made the news. Another

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Speaker 1: viral video of shoplifting, but not just someone grabbing something

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Speaker 1: and making a run for it. No shoplifting in Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles at a TJ Max store where individuals just loaded

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Speaker 1: their arms up with as much as they could carry

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Speaker 1: and really, rather casually, in broad daylight, walked out of

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Speaker 1: the store. And here's why they know that, because law

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Speaker 1: enforcement is under the microscope because of the BLM movement

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Speaker 1: and critical race theory. Any law enforcement action that could

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Speaker 1: if it's videotaped, could be the end of that officer's career,

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Speaker 1: even if it's justified use of force. But even more

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Speaker 1: to the point, perhaps in this case, what we see

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Speaker 1: is that in these instances, store employees are being told Clay,

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Speaker 1: don't do anything, don't intervene. It's not worth the possible risk,

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Speaker 1: the possible lawsuit, the bad press of having store security

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Speaker 1: about it. And so criminals see this and they say, great,

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Speaker 1: no consequences on site. If it's less than seven hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: In San Francisco at least, I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: In LA, they won't arrest you. So even if you

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Speaker 1: lawlessness you get of a social justice first left wing

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Speaker 1: narrative of the law doesn't count. We have to take

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Speaker 1: everything has to be seen through a lens of intersectionality

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Speaker 1: and historical oppression and all the rest of it. It's madness,

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Speaker 1: it is. And what I would like to do Buck

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Speaker 1: here is open up the phone line specifically for people

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Speaker 1: who have seen this happening. Potentially. I'd like to hear

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Speaker 1: seeing just clear shop lifting, and I want to be

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Speaker 1: I want to make a pretty big statement here because

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Speaker 1: shoplifting has always gone on. And anybody who's ever worked

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Speaker 1: in retail, have you ever worked in retail before, Buck, No,

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Speaker 1: I have. So. I have worked in media Play, which

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Speaker 1: was a massive, big box store. Some of you may

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Speaker 1: remember media Play back in the day. It's old books, movies, music.

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Speaker 1: That was my very first job when I was fifteen

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Speaker 1: or sixteen years old, and then I worked at American Eagle. Buck.

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Speaker 1: I worked at Abercrombie and Fitch in the Pentagon City

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Speaker 1: Mall in Washington, DC while I was in college, and

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Speaker 1: like that was directly across from where I worked, and

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Speaker 1: so there is an ever present threat which everybody has

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Speaker 1: to know that things are going to be sold stolen.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. When I worked at Media

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Speaker 1: Play as an employee, they would basically frisk us at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day when we left to ensure

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Speaker 1: that we as employees were not stealing from Media Play.

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Speaker 1: And it was a big deal. At Abercrombie and Fitch,

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Speaker 1: an American Eagle and we were instructed to watch people

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Speaker 1: even remember one time a woman came in pretending to

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Speaker 1: be pregnant. She had like the baby bump. It was

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Speaker 1: an artificial baby bump, so that she could put gear

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Speaker 1: So I have a little bit of experience working in

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Speaker 1: retail establishments. Back in the day, we were told to

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Speaker 1: notify authorities. And really this has been a big deal

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Speaker 1: for a long time. Walmart, memorably buck has always taken

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Speaker 1: the stand, at least historically that they prosecute everybody, no

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Speaker 1: matter how much they stole, because they wanted the signal

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Speaker 1: And what we have seen and this is playing out

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Chicago, name you know a serious law, I

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Speaker 1: What you've seen our prosecutors increasingly saying, well, we're just

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Speaker 1: not going to enforce that. We don't think it's worth it.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to arrest people over that. The the

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Speaker 1: longstanding damage to a person, how will they get a

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Speaker 1: start to adjust the parameters of what is actually illegal.

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Speaker 1: They do this with immigration as well, but that's a

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Speaker 1: whole other conversation illegal immigration. They effectively treat us no

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Speaker 1: longer illegal but clay. The logic of this is playing

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Speaker 1: out before our very eyes. When people know they can

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Speaker 1: image of it. Bucket, you were saying in You're like,

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Speaker 1: so in Nashville. I have a friend who works at Nordstrom.

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Speaker 1: She said that, you know, it used to be people

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Speaker 1: For people out there who have ever been in the area,

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Speaker 1: it's a fairly high end mall that people will walk

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Speaker 1: bring in wire cutters to cut high end purses loose,

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Speaker 1: Nobody they are It's specifically instructed not to do or

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Speaker 1: I want everyone to play this out in their heads.

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Speaker 1: Right now. You are a security guard at a mall,

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Speaker 1: at TJ Max or whatever. You see somebody, you're in

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Speaker 1: how our criminal justice system is too harsh on people

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Speaker 1: who commit minor crimes. And then we find out, well,

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Speaker 1: what about people who commit ninety minor crimes so to speak,

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Speaker 1: I've been arrested like ninety times or one hundred times.

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Speaker 1: That's right. You know, there's reasons why you should process

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Speaker 1: people who commit these crimes. There's reasons why you should

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Speaker 1: probably which will happen, right, and then you stand in

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Speaker 1: district attorney in San Francisco, in Los Angeles, in New

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Speaker 1: York City would not only prosecute that person, Clay, but

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Speaker 1: want your phone lines. We're gonna have loaded calls. I

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Speaker 1: want you if you work in retail right now, what

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Speaker 1: are you being told about shoplifting? Are you seeing it

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Speaker 1: at a different level than you ever have before? And

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Speaker 1: how is your store responding? If you don't want to

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Speaker 1: give us the specific store or you know you can

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Speaker 1: talk generally about what you are being told, because I

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Speaker 1: know some people are fearful for their jobs. So you

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Speaker 1: can say, hey, I work at this place, this mall.

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Speaker 1: If you want to say your real employer, that's great too. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking specifically for what I know. Nordstrom has instructed

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Speaker 1: employees in many of its different locations. We're going to

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Speaker 1: we want you to know. If you choose to believe

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Speaker 1: Google and how many people actually do, then all you

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Speaker 1: need to do to serve the Internet privately is turn

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Speaker 1: on incognito mode in your browser. You're supposed to trust

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Speaker 1: big tech with solutions to online privacy, right. Wrong, Of

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Speaker 1: I was talking about store security. Right now, if your

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Speaker 1: store security, now, what can I mean yet? I guess

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Speaker 1: you can call the police, But as we all know,

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Speaker 1: that's not hard for someone then to say, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk out of your store now with my

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Speaker 1: arms full of stuff pretty casually because the cops aren't

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Speaker 1: going to get there in twenty seconds. So someone's stolen.

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Speaker 1: And then if they're not going to be prosecuted, there

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Speaker 1: won't be the incentive to track them down after the fact.

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Speaker 1: But you see, this all comes from there are are

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Speaker 1: leftist and Marxist and intersectional theories of property crime as

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Speaker 1: not something that should really be punished. Right. We heard

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Speaker 1: this during the riots with BLM, We've heard this for

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Speaker 1: many many months now. I do want to bring in

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Speaker 1: Andrew and Miami, Florida, who's also got some thoughts on this.

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Speaker 1: When Andrew welcome, Hey, how's it going, guys, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing today? We're good. No, I must not. I

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Speaker 1: mean I was hearing you guys talking about it. But

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Speaker 1: in reality, I've been seeing this happening for the past

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Speaker 1: three to four years, especially in the Walgreens in the

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Speaker 1: last Miami area where I was living, and it was

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Speaker 1: some point I was pretty friendly with the employees, and

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Speaker 1: I would see people come in with this straight look

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Speaker 1: on their face and go down the aisle, grab what

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Speaker 1: they're wanting, walk straight out of the store just with

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Speaker 1: no no no care in the world. Allan looking at

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Speaker 1: them and ask him, you guys are gonna call the

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Speaker 1: cops or do anything to like, No, the store tells

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Speaker 1: us not to do anything that they'll steal mount camera

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Speaker 1: and they'll deal with them if they deal with them.

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Speaker 1: So that's been happening for years and years now it's

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Speaker 1: getting to work. I appreciate the call. That's crazy to me,

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Speaker 1: Like the Walmart theory, whether you agree or disagree with it,

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Speaker 1: because it's expensive obviously to pursue charges in every case,

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Speaker 1: but their theory buck was that if you don't prosecute

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Speaker 1: shoplifters aggressively, you send the message that you don't care,

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Speaker 1: which cost you more money in the long run, which

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Speaker 1: I tend to agree with Walmart's saying you break, you

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Speaker 1: break our windows, you buy our windows. Meeting. If you

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Speaker 1: step out of line, you break the law, You're going

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Speaker 1: to suffer consequences for it. And this is essential in

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Speaker 1: a society that believes in law and order. Ed in

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Speaker 1: Ohio had an interest story in this one. What's up? Ed?

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Speaker 1: Where is there's? How you doing well? I'm doing well?

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Speaker 1: How about yourself? We're good? What's up? There's a store

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Speaker 1: that I well? I really say, yes I could. It's

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Speaker 1: a circle case. But they they don't allow their employees

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Speaker 1: to stop anybody from stelias. He wants something, he just

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Speaker 1: walk around and grab it and you walk out. And

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Speaker 1: one day I found somebody watching them put stuff in

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Speaker 1: their pocket. I said, toltally a clerk. I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: this guy just stuck probably like fifty bucks worth of

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Speaker 1: sunglasses in his pocket. They were the nice ones for folks.

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Speaker 1: And I said, see, there's nothing we can do. We

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Speaker 1: didn't see him do it, And I said, I did

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Speaker 1: stand back. So I went ahead and I told him,

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Speaker 1: I said, I watched him put the sunglasses in your pocket.

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Speaker 1: You need to put them back because you see me

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Speaker 1: do anything else. I saw you put him in your pocket.

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Speaker 1: You can either put them back willingly or I'll take

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Speaker 1: them back. Okay, Well he pulled him out of them.

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Speaker 1: He pulled him out of his out of his inside pocket.

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Speaker 1: So it was a big jacket he was wearing, and

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Speaker 1: he threw them on the floor. If you have them

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Speaker 1: busted as I have a nice day and the close

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Speaker 1: that and don't come back. They're allowed to tell them

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Speaker 1: that if they see him do it. They can't physically

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Speaker 1: touch them and take their stuff back, but they can

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Speaker 1: tell them don't come back. Ed is like the Clint

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Speaker 1: Eastwood of Ohio here ed, thank you so much. Bad

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Speaker 1: for for jord No doubt Robin Albany. To wrap this up, Rob,

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Speaker 1: what you say that your wife's a retail manager and

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Speaker 1: they just walk right in with full bags, fill them up,

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Speaker 1: and walk out. Nothing happens, That is correct. They they

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Speaker 1: have a it's a large store. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get into names here, I don't want to get into trouble,

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00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: but it's a large store because because the corporate doesn't

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Speaker 1: want anybody to stop anybody, just like you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: And so they're even security guards store. What's that? Even

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Speaker 1: security guards that they're hiring theoretically to do security inside

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Speaker 1: the store, they're telling them not to do anything. So well,

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Speaker 1: that's just the thing. So there are certain days there

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Speaker 1: are security staff there that monitor the cameras and they

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Speaker 1: can apprehend. Now when I say they apprehend, they take

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Speaker 1: them back to a room and they tell them to

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Speaker 1: sit down. But the person get up and leave anytime

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Speaker 1: they want. But they do, you know, take them back

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Speaker 1: here and make them sit down. But what they do

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Speaker 1: is they come in the front door, not a store,

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Speaker 1: it's in the wall. But they this store has its

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Speaker 1: own access from from the parking lot, so they come

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Speaker 1: in this from the parking lot side of the store.

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Speaker 1: They walk in the store, they pick out an area

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Speaker 1: that they want to go grab a bunch of stuff in.

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Speaker 1: They bring the bags with them. They literally load the

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Speaker 1: bags and then walk to the exit they walk in,

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Speaker 1: they take they take the exit that's in the mall

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Speaker 1: so they can mix with all the people once they

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Speaker 1: go through the exit into the mall. So my wife

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Speaker 1: she's she stops, she goes over by the doorway that

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Speaker 1: goes into the mall and she stands there and that's

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Speaker 1: she's a little, tiny little thing. She's and she's older,

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Speaker 1: she's not a young, you know person, and there's four

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Speaker 1: of them her soul and she says, I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you to put the stuff back, and they write out

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Speaker 1: flast that you aren't gonna do it. You know, you

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Speaker 1: aren't gonna do anything. And and so my wife says,

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, you're correct on that, and she steps

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Speaker 1: out of the way and lets them walk right out

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Speaker 1: of the mall. She couldn't do anything, and she would

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Speaker 1: have been ill advised to try to do anything because

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Speaker 1: of the nature of how these situations are being treated

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Speaker 1: by law enforced. Rob, thank you so much. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: come back into more. That's you know, you know Clay

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Speaker 1: Alexandria Ocazio Cortezac weighed in not long ago. Of course

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Speaker 1: she did. I think we should remind everybody what her

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Speaker 1: explanation for the shoplifting is. Plus, we've got General Mark

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Speaker 1: Millie talking about Afghanistan right now as I'm speaking to you,

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Speaker 1: saying ninety five percent of the withdrawal from Afghanistan is complete, Clay,

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Speaker 1: if we have time in the third hour, some thoughts

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Speaker 1: on what's happening in that country, Taliban strategy. I've been

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Speaker 1: talking to some top people about the very dire situation

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Speaker 1: on the ground there. But just take a second here

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Speaker 1: Because we all love our dogs, right. I love Toolula,

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Speaker 1: of life issues that have declined in many ways all

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Speaker 1: over America, and the broken windows theory, of course, which

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Speaker 1: holds that the more small crime you allow, the larger

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Speaker 1: the crimes become. And shoplifting is a small crime that

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Speaker 1: many people are becoming more and more exposed to as

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Speaker 1: it grows across this country in broad daylight. And well,

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Speaker 1: Alexandria Acazio Cortez, she's got really interesting theories about why

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Speaker 1: shoplifting maybe going up. Listen, Why is this uptick in

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Speaker 1: crime happening? Maybe this has to do with the fact

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Speaker 1: that people aren't paying their rent and are scared to

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Speaker 1: need to feed their child and they don't have money.

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Speaker 1: They're put in a position where they feel like they

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Speaker 1: either need to shoplift some bread or go hungry. Clay,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm pretty sure that the os are in

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Speaker 1: theory there. I'm pretty sure that no one can derive

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Speaker 1: sustenance that the macros for the weightlifters out there would

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Speaker 1: be off if you tried to eat a Gucci bag,

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Speaker 1: or you were trying to sustain yourself with, you know,

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Speaker 1: two hundred dollars Nike sneakers. No, I have a feeling

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Speaker 1: that the people who are targeting high end department stores

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Speaker 1: for incredibly expensive clothing what you would consider conspicuous consumption

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Speaker 1: types of goods, it's not because they're starving and they're

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Speaker 1: feeding a family of seven at home. It's because they

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Speaker 1: want to. There are four hundred dollars sunglasses for free

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Speaker 1: with no consequences. Yeah, the inspector javert yauvet, I think

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Speaker 1: is how you pronounce his name right? The lame as

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Speaker 1: a rob example which AOC went there for those of us,

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Speaker 1: those of us who had to read that book or

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Speaker 1: have watched the plays back in the day. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the idea that we are throwing the book at people

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Speaker 1: who are stealing food. That is a different universe than

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Speaker 1: what is going on right now, which is organized and

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Speaker 1: targeted direct shoplifting in broad daylight. And it's not even

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Speaker 1: attempting to be hidden, which is what I was saying.

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Speaker 1: From my experience working in retail, I spent a lot

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Speaker 1: of years working in retail as a younger person, and

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Speaker 1: back then it was at least surreptitious. The idea was

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Speaker 1: I'm going to steal something and not be seeing buck.

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Speaker 1: Now it's just broad daylight, and there's and there's this

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Speaker 1: underlying theme on the left all the time these days

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Speaker 1: of these are big corporations, This is a well can

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Speaker 1: afford it, This is a wealth redistribution program. Is it's

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Speaker 1: no big deal. In fact, there have been some who

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Speaker 1: will say that these thefts that are occurring, if and

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Speaker 1: when they do involve a minority participating in the theft,

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Speaker 1: is really a form of social justice and writing historical wrongs.

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Speaker 1: There have been politicians, there are pundits who will say

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Speaker 1: such things. They will also say, for example, during the

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Speaker 1: BLM riots, that property crimes should not property crimes are

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Speaker 1: just a thing that happens when you're pursuing social justice.

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Speaker 1: You can't lock people up for that, which is why

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Speaker 1: when Trump said they'd give ten years for the destruction

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Speaker 1: of federal property. By the way, do you think that

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Speaker 1: actually ended up happening, Clay, do you think the DJ

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Speaker 1: sent anyone away for years for destroying statues or trying

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Speaker 1: to light a church on fire? Nope, But you're in

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Speaker 1: the Capitol building at the wrong time. You get eight months,

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Speaker 1: and that's if you plead guilty. Interesting how that happens.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, Rand Paul will join us. Explosive

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Speaker 1: controversy over how COVID got out of a Chinese lab

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Speaker 1: with gain of function research, we'll talk about that. We're

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Speaker 1: also going to ask him. Remember, he's a doctor, and

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Speaker 1: we're all supposed to be listening to doctors. According to

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Speaker 1: the left wing blue checkmarks out there, at least the

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Speaker 1: doctors who say the things that they like. Why are

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Speaker 1: we not talking more about natural immunity in this country?

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Speaker 1: Everything is all about the vaccine and vaccinated immunity. What

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Speaker 1: about those of us who have already had COVID? What

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Speaker 1: should our decisions look like as it pertains to the vaccine.

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Speaker 1: We'll ask Rand Paul what he thinks about all that.

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, Clay Travis, it is rolling. Should be a

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Speaker 1: really interesting conversation coming up next. Hang with us. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be fun. This is our show. You're listening to.

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