Speaker 1: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Hey palm alright, So we've been doing some really
Speaker 1: unique episodes. We had Greg Murdy and on recently. Uh
Speaker 1: DJ Caruso. I'm really proud of you because your voice
Speaker 1: sounds really good. Well, I appreciate like you could maybe
Speaker 1: have a career in this. I mean, I can't be
Speaker 1: on camera as we know, because of my face. So
Speaker 1: if my voice is working out, that's great. Least you
Speaker 1: don't have a backpack with all the food in it,
Speaker 1: that's true. Like you're you're on the up and up.
Speaker 1: I'm getting there slowly, but sure you're getting this. Sorry
Speaker 1: I interrupted, you know, what are we here for? But
Speaker 1: what episode you're here today? We have another incredible television
Speaker 1: person that's kind of behind the scenes kind of he's
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a he's a director, producer of some
Speaker 1: of the biggest TV shows on the plane. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: let's read off his resume, Mr Larry Tang, Let's read
Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, we are so excited to have and
Speaker 1: bring you Larry Tang. Uh. Larry has produced and directed
Speaker 1: shows like Medium with Patriciar kett Uh. He did Animal
Speaker 1: Kingdom on T and T, which is just such an
Speaker 1: awesome show. His show, his very edgy. His show is
Speaker 1: out right now actually which they went darker with than
Speaker 1: than what we're used to, which is uh Nancy Drew,
Speaker 1: um and uh, which is on the CW. But that
Speaker 1: is Larry show. That's his baby, which that's awesome and
Speaker 1: uh currently right now, I hope I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get in trouble by saying this, but he is the
Speaker 1: man helming in c I S Hawaii, which they are
Speaker 1: in Hawaii as we speak, and he is filming that. Um,
Speaker 1: he's doing the whole pilot and going to set off
Speaker 1: that series. Yeah, Larry Tang's got it going on. So
Speaker 1: we just we just hope that you guys enjoy a
Speaker 1: little behind the curtains, as Davo and I like to
Speaker 1: like to categorize it at and if you like it,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll we'll keep bringing on more, you know, big
Speaker 1: producers and directors. But for right now, we've got Mr
Speaker 1: Larry Tang. Larry, how are you great? How you mentioned
Speaker 1: Blue Blow? I did one episode of Blue Blood. You
Speaker 1: happen to be in it. I love how you mentioned it.
Speaker 1: Typical Jared right there. First of all, we're gonna edit
Speaker 1: that out. Second of all, I thought you did a
Speaker 1: bunch of blue You've done a bunch of blue blood, Larry.
Speaker 1: I did one and they never asked me back. So thanks,
Speaker 1: all right, Well maybe yeah, probably because I was in
Speaker 1: it exactly. Well, sorry about that, Larry Um. Larry. So
Speaker 1: so look, thank you first of all for joining us
Speaker 1: on the hay Pal podcast. Um uh. Secondly, congratulations, as
Speaker 1: we were just saying on on Nancy Drew. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: a hit. It's great you. I I've been friends with
Speaker 1: you for I think it's about twelve and a half
Speaker 1: thirteen years now, and I've watched you just you know, ascend, ascend, ascend,
Speaker 1: and for all of our all of our listeners. A
Speaker 1: pilot is the first episode that you film, Larry Um
Speaker 1: was was I I don't even like to say lucky enough.
Speaker 1: He was talented enough and has paid his dues and
Speaker 1: he did the first episode which means his baby. And
Speaker 1: so my first question for you, for you, lt is
Speaker 1: what do you think is a greater moment? Do you
Speaker 1: think it's it's directing a pilot episode? And by the way,
Speaker 1: this is for you, uh, not just like in general,
Speaker 1: but is it is it directing a pilot which you've
Speaker 1: worked so so hard, you know, to get to this
Speaker 1: point in your career. Or is it when the Eagles
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl? When the Birds won the Super Bowl? Man,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he didn't even have You have to sort
Speaker 1: of like weigh the odds, right, because like, as a
Speaker 1: Philly fan, it's like in my lifetime, would they win
Speaker 1: a super Bowl? In my lifetime, would I eventually get
Speaker 1: a pilot? It was more likely that I would get
Speaker 1: a pilot, So then winning the Super Bowl is a
Speaker 1: bigger deal, you know what I mean? Okay, but Larry,
Speaker 1: I go back to Look, I've known you twelve thirteen years,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that other people have known you longer,
Speaker 1: and it's been a long time. And and I understand
Speaker 1: that you say maybe eventually, but not I know other
Speaker 1: directors that say eventually and they don't at that opportunity.
Speaker 1: So that's why, you know, I thought the magnitude would
Speaker 1: be a little bit greater. But I understand you're going
Speaker 1: it all serious. It was a huge honor and a
Speaker 1: big deal for me, and um, you know, I think
Speaker 1: it was a perfect storm of storts. You know, they
Speaker 1: fake empire. Um, I wasn't able to settle on a
Speaker 1: director yet so there their hunt was going on longer
Speaker 1: than people had thought. Um, I was available. I got
Speaker 1: a chance to read the script. I connected with it
Speaker 1: on a very emotional level because to me, the show
Speaker 1: was always about a father and his daughter. So that
Speaker 1: really struck a chord with me. And emailed Josh Wartz
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, man, can I get like fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes in front of you? He said, I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: if you can put together a presentation, they come see
Speaker 1: me in two days and we'll do that. And so
Speaker 1: I cut together this presentation reel for a bunch of
Speaker 1: different movies and uh like I showed it and um,
Speaker 1: ultimately got the job, and it was it was a
Speaker 1: it was a huge moment for me. Um, you know
Speaker 1: it's it's it's tough to crack that circle. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is true. So so Larry. So the common theme
Speaker 1: that I see in your work. And and by the way,
Speaker 1: you know me, you know how unapologetic I am. The
Speaker 1: people that are around me know me that I don't
Speaker 1: I don't fluff pillows, I don't bullshit. I don't like
Speaker 1: to cuss either on the show, but I did. I
Speaker 1: did just cuss. But like the common denominator that I
Speaker 1: think with Larry Tang when I watch your shows or
Speaker 1: even when you do an episode and I don't even
Speaker 1: reach out to you. I just do my homework and watch,
Speaker 1: you know, the one that you directed is the the acting.
Speaker 1: And I watch other shows and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: just like how did you find this person? Ouity felt
Speaker 1: like where where is? And for you it seems to
Speaker 1: there seems to always be great guest stars. There seems
Speaker 1: to always be great leads, and it seems like you
Speaker 1: just have an eye for for that talent. Do you
Speaker 1: think that you have the same eye for that talent
Speaker 1: in the in the sports world, like is there do
Speaker 1: you remember is there like a story where you're like, man,
Speaker 1: this guy right here, this guy is gonna be good
Speaker 1: and then the ends up blowing up and being you know,
Speaker 1: somebody of substance in the league or you know, in
Speaker 1: any sport. You mean when I like forecasting, I was
Speaker 1: actually right, sure, yeah, honestly, um, I I was so
Speaker 1: high on de Sean Jackson when he got drafted out
Speaker 1: of cow really and for a second round or I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, that's some good value there
Speaker 1: and drafted in my fantasy league as a rookie draft
Speaker 1: from the following year. The guy just exploded and I
Speaker 1: felt like, look, I mean the second rounder. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh my god, I really reached for that
Speaker 1: and I really like saw that coming. But um, I
Speaker 1: was high from the get go, you know, And um
Speaker 1: you know that that's when being a homer sort of
Speaker 1: works in your favorite because like, you know, you sort
Speaker 1: of keep tabs on a guy like that and blown
Speaker 1: up and just you know, rack up points for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's just like you know, the un tell the
Speaker 1: audience by the way, the homer is. We know what
Speaker 1: homer is because it's when you just rep your hometown
Speaker 1: and I go, I go, I go beyond that because
Speaker 1: like I read my hometown but barely. It's when you
Speaker 1: can't speak like objectively about it, you know, like like
Speaker 1: Dave for sure, No, I'm just kidding. Actually you are
Speaker 1: pretty objective. But like you talked about Deck, yeah, unfortunately
Speaker 1: I did. And and even Edelman. You know, it's amazing
Speaker 1: that you brought up de Sean being drafted in the
Speaker 1: second round. How incredible is Edelman? He was drafted in
Speaker 1: the seventh round. He actually didn't even think he might
Speaker 1: get drafted. Yeah, lt he was giving a state quarterback
Speaker 1: turn receiver crazy. Yeah. He was telling Dave and I
Speaker 1: on the show that he was just like, man, you know,
Speaker 1: he got there and he was like behind Wes Welker
Speaker 1: and all those guys, and He's like, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if I'm going to make the team. To becoming
Speaker 1: the second greatest. We looked up to stat second greatest, um,
Speaker 1: you know, behind Jerry Rice for postseason. Yeah, receiving for postseason.
Speaker 1: I mean wasn't wasn't Kelsey like a fifth round pick
Speaker 1: or something or a sixth round pick out well? And
Speaker 1: then the greatest of all time? I mean Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: I mean Tom Brady was what was like it's he
Speaker 1: was the hundred or something and I know and and
Speaker 1: by the way, like a cool story for for people
Speaker 1: that listen, is yes, Larry and I did do um
Speaker 1: do a TV show called Blue Bloods together. I acted
Speaker 1: in it. And the girl that he cast opposite me
Speaker 1: that I had not met obviously until I got to set,
Speaker 1: was this actress Jessica Roth. And this just you know,
Speaker 1: is more of of an attestament to Larry and his
Speaker 1: I have what I'm talking about is you know he
Speaker 1: found this girl, I got to act with her. We
Speaker 1: leave set, Larry and I have have a friendship and
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, that girl is really good. And he
Speaker 1: was like, that girl is good. Like that girl is good.
Speaker 1: She's gonna move out to l A. Watch she's gonna
Speaker 1: end up being somebody. And she ended up moving out
Speaker 1: to l A. And now she has her own franchise
Speaker 1: and Happy Death Day. She's the lead of that movie.
Speaker 1: And uh, and is doing a bunch of other studio films.
Speaker 1: But but uh, yeah, I just always wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: ask you that question. For sure. In her career, low
Speaker 1: Light was acting opposite you. It really was. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean literally, she went from Blue Bloods and then she
Speaker 1: she did like lah lah Land. Yeah, and I went
Speaker 1: from Blue Bloods to doing a fucking podcast with YouTube.
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, Hey, Pam will be right back after
Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors. All right now, Larry, I
Speaker 1: have a question. And I love this Philly connection. Um,
Speaker 1: I hate it's It's incredible. Fly Eagles Fly. I want
Speaker 1: you to recast some of the top actors in Hawaii
Speaker 1: five oh with eagles. Let's start with LLL cool J
Speaker 1: who who would play L cool J's Hawaii five O character?
Speaker 1: What wrong? That's the wrong show. That's n C I
Speaker 1: s l A. Oh wait why did that come up?
Speaker 1: Hang on, We're either gonna have to edit that out
Speaker 1: or we gotta know it says or wait, hold on,
Speaker 1: wait wait why does it say wifive? Oh maybe he
Speaker 1: did an episode. I think he did an episode, Larry,
Speaker 1: they did look at crossover, but he's not a regular. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the lead is Scott con And okay, let's go with
Speaker 1: Scott con Let's go with Scott con. Um. I want
Speaker 1: to go with John Doranbo because he could do magic.
Speaker 1: He's like entertainment psychic. You love it all right, that's
Speaker 1: a great one. Um. Daniel day Kim's character, Oh they do,
Speaker 1: we go there. He's like the reliable dude. Um, never
Speaker 1: lets you down. I feel like it's like David Akers. Okay, wow,
Speaker 1: impressive this one. I feel it could be potentially easy
Speaker 1: because I can already see it in my mind. George Garcia,
Speaker 1: who plays Jerry Ortega. Oh, um, he's kind of funny,
Speaker 1: he kind of loves himself. Um, I would want if
Speaker 1: you want to throw a cowboy in there, You're more
Speaker 1: than welcome to Larry, just just letting you know with
Speaker 1: the pay of the Lane Johnson there. Okay, my my
Speaker 1: pick for that was actually Jason Kelsey I thought would
Speaker 1: be a fun one um. And last but not least,
Speaker 1: would be Alex oh Lafflin who would play Alex's character.
Speaker 1: I think you gotta give that the Sea Wentz. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like it. So we've recast in Hawaii five oh character. Right,
Speaker 1: he's like, he's that stock character. He's a straight guy.
Speaker 1: He's he's a straight guy. He's not the funny guy
Speaker 1: he's got he's got you know, just that that good
Speaker 1: radar about him, you know what I mean, and that
Speaker 1: that's Carson Wentz. Like he's not like a funny dude.
Speaker 1: He's not just a personality. He's just a straight up
Speaker 1: solid guy. I'm gonna tell you about Carson. So one
Speaker 1: of the first times, uh, I've been blessed enough to
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time with the team, and I
Speaker 1: was a training camp and a bunch of the guys
Speaker 1: they were like, Dave, you gotta we introduce to Carson.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I would love to meet him.
Speaker 1: So they bring him by and Uh, they go, Carson,
Speaker 1: this is our guy Dave. You know, he does a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff in l A. If you ever need
Speaker 1: anything in l A. And he's like, I hate l A.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, no, I know you do, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know I've spoken to your brother about before.
Speaker 1: I know you guys are in l A people, and
Speaker 1: I go, but if there's anything you ever need in
Speaker 1: l A, you know, you can call me let me know.
Speaker 1: And he goes, Dave, I care about three things, God, family,
Speaker 1: and football. And I almost like wet this guy. This
Speaker 1: is amazing. Friday Night Lights moment is a Friday Night
Speaker 1: Lights moment. It's pretty cool. Clear clear eyes, full hearts.
Speaker 1: Can't lose. Yeah, like a Cowboys, they lose a lot. Okay,
Speaker 1: right on. You can definitely get injured. Unbelievable, um LT
Speaker 1: when when you're We wanted to use this episode to
Speaker 1: give people kind of like a look behind the curve,
Speaker 1: and we wanted to keep with our you know, hybrid
Speaker 1: of sports entertainment, but we also just wanted to, you know,
Speaker 1: let let people get some inside to your world and
Speaker 1: and what you do and can you can you just
Speaker 1: talk about like, for instance, you know, when you go
Speaker 1: in and you you have to. It's kind of odd,
Speaker 1: Like I do kind of compare it to um people
Speaker 1: out there don't know. In TV, you know, they're always
Speaker 1: changing directors. And the reason they have to change directors
Speaker 1: is because you know, if Larry goes and directs an episode,
Speaker 1: he can't then start prepping the next episode while he's
Speaker 1: directing this episode, so they would lose time. So they
Speaker 1: so so you actually have to come in. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of liken it to a guy that has
Speaker 1: been traded right midway through the season has to now
Speaker 1: come in, go into the law, straight into the locker room.
Speaker 1: He's got to now meet all of his new players,
Speaker 1: he's got to learn the new place, and then he's
Speaker 1: got to get his butt out there and he's got
Speaker 1: to perform. And so I wanted to give you know,
Speaker 1: the fans and the listeners a little insight on how
Speaker 1: that kind of is, you know, synonymous with what you
Speaker 1: have to do maybe the first time you go to
Speaker 1: a show, you know, um, look, I remember doing a
Speaker 1: skype interview for for Walking Dead with with Scott Campbell,
Speaker 1: the show runner, and he, uh, you know, we went
Speaker 1: through this whole process. We talked about a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1: And then he just basically said to me at the end,
Speaker 1: He's like, look, man, I just want you to you know,
Speaker 1: you just use your instruments, man, but just play my song.
Speaker 1: And that's basically that's basically the deal when you go
Speaker 1: when you go onto a series that's pretty on the air,
Speaker 1: that's already established for the pilots are e st um,
Speaker 1: you're basically doing your your best to carry forth that vision,
Speaker 1: um and that style so that you know, when these
Speaker 1: guys watched you, when you when the audience watches the
Speaker 1: show week the week, it feels like the same show.
Speaker 1: And I am ultimately you know, I'm watching past episodes.
Speaker 1: I'm sort of just studying the visual grammar of the show,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to try to infuse a little
Speaker 1: bit of myself into it. Um because you know, I
Speaker 1: believe all the directors have a certain style that you
Speaker 1: know that we gravid and take towards you're just like
Speaker 1: a whole all artists do. Um. But that is the challenge.
Speaker 1: The challenge, this is sort of you know, you have
Speaker 1: to sort of work within their parameters. You know, if
Speaker 1: on Animal Kingdom, that whole show is handheld in some steadicamp.
Speaker 1: And if I decided to shoot it like David Venture,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not gonna get hired. They're probably gonna want
Speaker 1: to reshoot the show and it's not gonna look like
Speaker 1: it's gonna stand out, and it's gonna feel very, very different.
Speaker 1: That's not what you want to do. Um. Conversely, like,
Speaker 1: you know, if you work on a show like My
Speaker 1: Hunter and then you decide to go all handheld, it's
Speaker 1: just gonna be the wrong field completely. Um. So you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta be smart. You gotta be aware of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, luckily there's tons of crew the DP obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you have a director producer there who
Speaker 1: will guide you through the look of the show, the
Speaker 1: style of the show, you know. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I could be like, hey, can I get a crane here?
Speaker 1: Can I can I use this piece of equipment there?
Speaker 1: And they'll be like, you know what, we don't actually
Speaker 1: use that kind of thing, but we do this kind
Speaker 1: of thing, and so you sort of have to embrace
Speaker 1: and adapt. Um. You gotta stay fluid, right, you gotta
Speaker 1: be liquid about it. Um. And then once you get
Speaker 1: on the set and we start shooting, then then then
Speaker 1: we start baking eggs, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: and um, you know, and I think it defines itself
Speaker 1: pretty easily, but you gotta do the homework. There's definitely
Speaker 1: a lot of homework. And that's why it's so cool.
Speaker 1: You know that you got you finally got your own
Speaker 1: pilot because guess what, it has your your you know,
Speaker 1: fingerprints all over it. It's like you said, you you
Speaker 1: got to make a call, you got to pitch what
Speaker 1: what how you saw the show going and they ended
Speaker 1: up going with you out of everyone else that they
Speaker 1: could have gone with. And so now it's everything that
Speaker 1: you pitched and you formulated in your mind and you
Speaker 1: created you know, kind of mixed and meshed beautifully with
Speaker 1: the writer and whoever created the show. And uh and
Speaker 1: and that's why it's such a big deal, or I
Speaker 1: feel like it's such a big deal. Get they set
Speaker 1: the look, the style, the lighting, um, you know, the
Speaker 1: sort of the the style of performance to all these
Speaker 1: things are are you know, get to sort of go
Speaker 1: through my filter. Um, and you know, thankfully that the
Speaker 1: show got picked up. Know, but like Nancy Drew was,
Speaker 1: um to me always sort of a darker, more grown
Speaker 1: up sort of feeling show. And so I was leaning
Speaker 1: a lot towards Fincher for his work and a little
Speaker 1: bit of Egger right. Um, and that's that's um. You know,
Speaker 1: some some just some modern stylistic montage just cut between
Speaker 1: um some just some stylistic filmmaking. You know, when we
Speaker 1: shoot very simple, we shoot very efficiently. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: because I believe, you know, I wanted to look like
Speaker 1: a movie. You know, we're shooting animal for glens Is
Speaker 1: you know here all that stuff. Um. So it was
Speaker 1: a great honor. You know, this, this last pilot that
Speaker 1: I was on before U before the whole industry shut
Speaker 1: down because of the coronavirus, UM was going to be
Speaker 1: an all handheld show. So I was totally going the
Speaker 1: other way with it. It was called Maverick w um.
Speaker 1: So you know, and hopefully I'm excited to get back
Speaker 1: into that, you know, whenever that happens. So, so Larry,
Speaker 1: let me let me let me ask you this before
Speaker 1: we let you go. Let me ask you this, Larry Tang.
Speaker 1: If the first season of Nancy Drew, which was a
Speaker 1: success because it got picked up for a second season, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So if the first season you were like, let's call
Speaker 1: it ten and six. They were ten and six this year, right,
Speaker 1: you know they were probably you know, first place, nine
Speaker 1: and seven who made the wild card. Okay, okay, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna go not even better. We got
Speaker 1: to hear that from from you. My question is what
Speaker 1: is your prediction for season two? What is your record?
Speaker 1: Do you make the playoffs? And what what? What is
Speaker 1: going to happen? We absolutely make the playoffs and we
Speaker 1: will hit the double digit wins. We'll tell you that. First.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go for the first six games. You're gonna
Speaker 1: start off three and three, right, and then and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna like rail off like seven in a row.
Speaker 1: I do I do like the Eagles did last season,
Speaker 1: Jared to take some playoff l L T one One
Speaker 1: quick one last question before I let you go, um
Speaker 1: is if you could pick any actor, it doesn't I
Speaker 1: don't care who it is, Right, you get free reign
Speaker 1: here to come on and guest star for you for
Speaker 1: one episode. Okay, guest star. They're not gonna be lead.
Speaker 1: They're gonna guest star one episode. We don't know what
Speaker 1: the TV show is, right, I'm not saying Nancy Drew.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying one of your you just it happens
Speaker 1: to be it's gonna be an episode of TV. Who
Speaker 1: is that guest star that Larry Tang would like to
Speaker 1: see on his show and he's directing? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I would say, it's gotta be de Niro. Oh all right,
Speaker 1: that is good. Yeah, I juste like the clocks take
Speaker 1: it on that guy, and I just need like I
Speaker 1: just I just need to be able to work with it,
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, I like I would say, if
Speaker 1: I had to guess, I would guess de Niro is
Speaker 1: seventy seventy seventy five. He was in his seventies when
Speaker 1: they started The Irishman, and he probably, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that is so that is so funny. Well, Larry, we
Speaker 1: would love to have you as a recurring guest here,
Speaker 1: you know, pop in and out. We just we just
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for for coming on the Haypal
Speaker 1: podcast and talking to us. And I just think it's
Speaker 1: cool because you know, normally, like like Davo and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, we've had Edelman on. We we've actually had
Speaker 1: Joe buck on, which was cool. We had yeah, we
Speaker 1: had Jeremy Piven. You know, we're gonna have j. J. Watt, Uh,
Speaker 1: Kate Hudson, you know, a bunch of people here on
Speaker 1: the show. And we also want to you know, flip
Speaker 1: that in and we want to get people behind the
Speaker 1: curtain and and and let you know, our listeners, uh
Speaker 1: get the other side that they don't really get to
Speaker 1: hear that often. And we think that that's pretty pretty cool. Um,
Speaker 1: So thank you for for taking our call, and thank
Speaker 1: you for for for coming on. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Larry Tang. Hey Pal is a production of
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