WEBVTT - Hollywood Director Larry Teng! 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:17.320 Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Hey palm alright, So we've been doing some really 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.040 unique episodes. We had Greg Murdy and on recently. Uh 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:23.840 DJ Caruso. I'm really proud of you because your voice 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.479 sounds really good. Well, I appreciate like you could maybe 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:28.600 have a career in this. I mean, I can't be 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:30.680 on camera as we know, because of my face. So 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:33.159 if my voice is working out, that's great. Least you 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:34.800 don't have a backpack with all the food in it, 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.000 that's true. Like you're you're on the up and up. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.680 I'm getting there slowly, but sure you're getting this. Sorry 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:41.640 I interrupted, you know, what are we here for? But 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.280 what episode you're here today? We have another incredible television 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:48.280 person that's kind of behind the scenes kind of he's 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.400 I mean, he's a he's a director, producer of some 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.360 of the biggest TV shows on the plane. Yeah, let's 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.160 let's read off his resume, Mr Larry Tang, Let's read 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.120 it all. Yeah, we are so excited to have and 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:02.640 bring you Larry Tang. Uh. Larry has produced and directed 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.960 shows like Medium with Patriciar kett Uh. He did Animal 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.679 Kingdom on T and T, which is just such an 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.160 awesome show. His show, his very edgy. His show is 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.959 out right now actually which they went darker with than 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.360 than what we're used to, which is uh Nancy Drew, 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.480 um and uh, which is on the CW. But that 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.360 is Larry show. That's his baby, which that's awesome and 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:28.600 uh currently right now, I hope I'm not going to 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.520 get in trouble by saying this, but he is the 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.920 man helming in c I S Hawaii, which they are 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.720 in Hawaii as we speak, and he is filming that. Um, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.720 he's doing the whole pilot and going to set off 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.440 that series. Yeah, Larry Tang's got it going on. So 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.840 we just we just hope that you guys enjoy a 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.880 little behind the curtains, as Davo and I like to 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.320 like to categorize it at and if you like it, 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.560 we'll we'll we'll keep bringing on more, you know, big 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:55.680 producers and directors. But for right now, we've got Mr 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.480 Larry Tang. Larry, how are you great? How you mentioned 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.120 Blue Blow? I did one episode of Blue Blood. You 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.000 happen to be in it. I love how you mentioned it. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.680 Typical Jared right there. First of all, we're gonna edit 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.000 that out. Second of all, I thought you did a 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.919 bunch of blue You've done a bunch of blue blood, Larry. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.560 I did one and they never asked me back. So thanks, 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.400 all right, Well maybe yeah, probably because I was in 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:25.160 it exactly. Well, sorry about that, Larry Um. Larry. So 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.360 so look, thank you first of all for joining us 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.919 on the hay Pal podcast. Um uh. Secondly, congratulations, as 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.959 we were just saying on on Nancy Drew. Uh, it's 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.320 a hit. It's great you. I I've been friends with 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.079 you for I think it's about twelve and a half 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:44.120 thirteen years now, and I've watched you just you know, ascend, ascend, ascend, 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.520 and for all of our all of our listeners. A 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.320 pilot is the first episode that you film, Larry Um 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.119 was was I I don't even like to say lucky enough. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.080 He was talented enough and has paid his dues and 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.000 he did the first episode which means his baby. And 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.120 so my first question for you, for you, lt is 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.400 what do you think is a greater moment? Do you 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:11.079 think it's it's directing a pilot episode? And by the way, 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.359 this is for you, uh, not just like in general, 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.680 but is it is it directing a pilot which you've 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.640 worked so so hard, you know, to get to this 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.440 point in your career. Or is it when the Eagles 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:26.000 won the Super Bowl? When the Birds won the Super Bowl? Man, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:32.760 oh yeah, he didn't even have You have to sort 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.360 of like weigh the odds, right, because like, as a 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.360 Philly fan, it's like in my lifetime, would they win 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.600 a super Bowl? In my lifetime, would I eventually get 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.960 a pilot? It was more likely that I would get 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.600 a pilot, So then winning the Super Bowl is a 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.760 bigger deal, you know what I mean? Okay, but Larry, 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.280 I go back to Look, I've known you twelve thirteen years, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.480 and I'm sure that other people have known you longer, 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:55.120 and it's been a long time. And and I understand 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.880 that you say maybe eventually, but not I know other 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.800 directors that say eventually and they don't at that opportunity. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.480 So that's why, you know, I thought the magnitude would 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.240 be a little bit greater. But I understand you're going 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.200 it all serious. It was a huge honor and a 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.040 big deal for me, and um, you know, I think 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.080 it was a perfect storm of storts. You know, they 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:19.240 fake empire. Um, I wasn't able to settle on a 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.000 director yet so there their hunt was going on longer 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:26.160 than people had thought. Um, I was available. I got 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.360 a chance to read the script. I connected with it 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.160 on a very emotional level because to me, the show 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.960 was always about a father and his daughter. So that 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:38.159 really struck a chord with me. And emailed Josh Wartz 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:39.800 and I said, hey, man, can I get like fifteen 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.400 minutes in front of you? He said, I'll tell you what, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.920 if you can put together a presentation, they come see 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.160 me in two days and we'll do that. And so 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.320 I cut together this presentation reel for a bunch of 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:54.800 different movies and uh like I showed it and um, 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.200 ultimately got the job, and it was it was a 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.919 it was a huge moment for me. Um, you know 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.960 it's it's it's tough to crack that circle. So yeah, yeah, 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.400 that is true. So so Larry. So the common theme 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.520 that I see in your work. And and by the way, 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.880 you know me, you know how unapologetic I am. The 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:13.680 people that are around me know me that I don't 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.039 I don't fluff pillows, I don't bullshit. I don't like 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.000 to cuss either on the show, but I did. I 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.240 did just cuss. But like the common denominator that I 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.640 think with Larry Tang when I watch your shows or 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.120 even when you do an episode and I don't even 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:27.920 reach out to you. I just do my homework and watch, 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.440 you know, the one that you directed is the the acting. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.960 And I watch other shows and I'm like, oh my god, 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.360 just like how did you find this person? Ouity felt 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.440 like where where is? And for you it seems to 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.320 there seems to always be great guest stars. There seems 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.880 to always be great leads, and it seems like you 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.880 just have an eye for for that talent. Do you 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.480 think that you have the same eye for that talent 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.359 in the in the sports world, like is there do 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.520 you remember is there like a story where you're like, man, 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.599 this guy right here, this guy is gonna be good 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.719 and then the ends up blowing up and being you know, 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.839 somebody of substance in the league or you know, in 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.600 any sport. You mean when I like forecasting, I was 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:11.280 actually right, sure, yeah, honestly, um, I I was so 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.280 high on de Sean Jackson when he got drafted out 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.039 of cow really and for a second round or I 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:17.880 was like, you know what, that's some good value there 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:23.279 and drafted in my fantasy league as a rookie draft 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:27.520 from the following year. The guy just exploded and I 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.039 felt like, look, I mean the second rounder. So it 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:31.839 wasn't like, oh my god, I really reached for that 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:35.240 and I really like saw that coming. But um, I 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.240 was high from the get go, you know, And um 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.039 you know that that's when being a homer sort of 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.720 works in your favorite because like, you know, you sort 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.279 of keep tabs on a guy like that and blown 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.560 up and just you know, rack up points for you. Yeah, 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.840 and it's just like you know, the un tell the 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.000 audience by the way, the homer is. We know what 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:58.880 homer is because it's when you just rep your hometown 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.760 and I go, I go, I go beyond that because 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:07.719 like I read my hometown but barely. It's when you 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:11.400 can't speak like objectively about it, you know, like like 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.440 Dave for sure, No, I'm just kidding. Actually you are 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:19.480 pretty objective. But like you talked about Deck, yeah, unfortunately 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.520 I did. And and even Edelman. You know, it's amazing 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.440 that you brought up de Sean being drafted in the 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.640 second round. How incredible is Edelman? He was drafted in 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.600 the seventh round. He actually didn't even think he might 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.720 get drafted. Yeah, lt he was giving a state quarterback 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.840 turn receiver crazy. Yeah. He was telling Dave and I 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:38.920 on the show that he was just like, man, you know, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.400 he got there and he was like behind Wes Welker 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.000 and all those guys, and He's like, I don't even 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.120 know if I'm going to make the team. To becoming 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:50.800 the second greatest. We looked up to stat second greatest, um, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:55.200 you know, behind Jerry Rice for postseason. Yeah, receiving for postseason. 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.200 I mean wasn't wasn't Kelsey like a fifth round pick 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.280 or something or a sixth round pick out well? And 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.440 then the greatest of all time? I mean Tom Brady, 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.520 I mean Tom Brady was what was like it's he 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:10.160 was the hundred or something and I know and and 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.120 by the way, like a cool story for for people 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.880 that listen, is yes, Larry and I did do um 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.640 do a TV show called Blue Bloods together. I acted 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:21.040 in it. And the girl that he cast opposite me 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.440 that I had not met obviously until I got to set, 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.960 was this actress Jessica Roth. And this just you know, 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.920 is more of of an attestament to Larry and his 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.000 I have what I'm talking about is you know he 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:33.680 found this girl, I got to act with her. We 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.800 leave set, Larry and I have have a friendship and 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.520 I'm like, dude, that girl is really good. And he 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.800 was like, that girl is good. Like that girl is good. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.000 She's gonna move out to l A. Watch she's gonna 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:44.800 end up being somebody. And she ended up moving out 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.840 to l A. And now she has her own franchise 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.560 and Happy Death Day. She's the lead of that movie. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.400 And uh, and is doing a bunch of other studio films. 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.320 But but uh, yeah, I just always wanted to ask you, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.559 ask you that question. For sure. In her career, low 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:01.319 Light was acting opposite you. It really was. Yeah, I 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.360 mean literally, she went from Blue Bloods and then she 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:07.440 she did like lah lah Land. Yeah, and I went 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:11.520 from Blue Bloods to doing a fucking podcast with YouTube. 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.360 Don't go anywhere, Hey, Pam will be right back after 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:24.840 a word from our sponsors. All right now, Larry, I 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.480 have a question. And I love this Philly connection. Um, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.000 I hate it's It's incredible. Fly Eagles Fly. I want 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.240 you to recast some of the top actors in Hawaii 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:41.440 five oh with eagles. Let's start with LLL cool J 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.280 who who would play L cool J's Hawaii five O character? 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:49.199 What wrong? That's the wrong show. That's n C I 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.400 s l A. Oh wait why did that come up? 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.800 Hang on, We're either gonna have to edit that out 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.520 or we gotta know it says or wait, hold on, 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.040 wait wait why does it say wifive? Oh maybe he 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.439 did an episode. I think he did an episode, Larry, 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.320 they did look at crossover, but he's not a regular. Yeah, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.720 the lead is Scott con And okay, let's go with 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.480 Scott con Let's go with Scott con. Um. I want 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.520 to go with John Doranbo because he could do magic. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.840 He's like entertainment psychic. You love it all right, that's 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:29.679 a great one. Um. Daniel day Kim's character, Oh they do, 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:34.520 we go there. He's like the reliable dude. Um, never 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:39.920 lets you down. I feel like it's like David Akers. Okay, wow, 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.000 impressive this one. I feel it could be potentially easy 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.920 because I can already see it in my mind. George Garcia, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:52.120 who plays Jerry Ortega. Oh, um, he's kind of funny, 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:56.160 he kind of loves himself. Um, I would want if 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.600 you want to throw a cowboy in there, You're more 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:01.599 than welcome to Larry, just just letting you know with 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:06.080 the pay of the Lane Johnson there. Okay, my my 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:10.560 pick for that was actually Jason Kelsey I thought would 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:15.080 be a fun one um. And last but not least, 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.080 would be Alex oh Lafflin who would play Alex's character. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:25.360 I think you gotta give that the Sea Wentz. Okay, 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:30.520 I like it. So we've recast in Hawaii five oh character. Right, 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.520 he's like, he's that stock character. He's a straight guy. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.600 He's he's a straight guy. He's not the funny guy 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.240 he's got he's got you know, just that that good 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:41.880 radar about him, you know what I mean, and that 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.240 that's Carson Wentz. Like he's not like a funny dude. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.319 He's not just a personality. He's just a straight up 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:51.199 solid guy. I'm gonna tell you about Carson. So one 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.960 of the first times, uh, I've been blessed enough to 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.000 spend a lot of time with the team, and I 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.400 was a training camp and a bunch of the guys 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.000 they were like, Dave, you gotta we introduce to Carson. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.600 And I'm like, yeah, I would love to meet him. 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.240 So they bring him by and Uh, they go, Carson, 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:07.800 this is our guy Dave. You know, he does a 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.080 lot of stuff in l A. If you ever need 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:10.680 anything in l A. And he's like, I hate l A. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.400 And I'm like, no, no, I know you do, you know, 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.440 but you know I've spoken to your brother about before. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.800 I know you guys are in l A people, and 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:20.920 I go, but if there's anything you ever need in 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.120 l A, you know, you can call me let me know. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:27.400 And he goes, Dave, I care about three things, God, family, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:33.679 and football. And I almost like wet this guy. This 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:37.480 is amazing. Friday Night Lights moment is a Friday Night 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.720 Lights moment. It's pretty cool. Clear clear eyes, full hearts. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:46.239 Can't lose. Yeah, like a Cowboys, they lose a lot. Okay, 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:54.800 right on. You can definitely get injured. Unbelievable, um LT 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.120 when when you're We wanted to use this episode to 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.959 give people kind of like a look behind the curve, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.760 and we wanted to keep with our you know, hybrid 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.360 of sports entertainment, but we also just wanted to, you know, 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.680 let let people get some inside to your world and 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.000 and what you do and can you can you just 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.839 talk about like, for instance, you know, when you go 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:18.000 in and you you have to. It's kind of odd, 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.439 Like I do kind of compare it to um people 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.800 out there don't know. In TV, you know, they're always 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.440 changing directors. And the reason they have to change directors 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.000 is because you know, if Larry goes and directs an episode, 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.920 he can't then start prepping the next episode while he's 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.520 directing this episode, so they would lose time. So they 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.760 so so you actually have to come in. So, you know, 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.560 I kind of liken it to a guy that has 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.839 been traded right midway through the season has to now 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.439 come in, go into the law, straight into the locker room. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:47.800 He's got to now meet all of his new players, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.520 he's got to learn the new place, and then he's 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:50.800 got to get his butt out there and he's got 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.840 to perform. And so I wanted to give you know, 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.560 the fans and the listeners a little insight on how 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.840 that kind of is, you know, synonymous with what you 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.720 have to do maybe the first time you go to 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.480 a show, you know, um, look, I remember doing a 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.200 skype interview for for Walking Dead with with Scott Campbell, 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.719 the show runner, and he, uh, you know, we went 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.760 through this whole process. We talked about a bunch of stuff. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.120 And then he just basically said to me at the end, 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.040 He's like, look, man, I just want you to you know, 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.960 you just use your instruments, man, but just play my song. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.400 And that's basically that's basically the deal when you go 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.240 when you go onto a series that's pretty on the air, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.160 that's already established for the pilots are e st um, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:35.080 you're basically doing your your best to carry forth that vision, 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.600 um and that style so that you know, when these 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.760 guys watched you, when you when the audience watches the 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.320 show week the week, it feels like the same show. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.680 And I am ultimately you know, I'm watching past episodes. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.240 I'm sort of just studying the visual grammar of the show, 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.400 and then I'm going to try to infuse a little 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.760 bit of myself into it. Um because you know, I 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.480 believe all the directors have a certain style that you 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.680 know that we gravid and take towards you're just like 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.440 a whole all artists do. Um. But that is the challenge. 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.440 The challenge, this is sort of you know, you have 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.320 to sort of work within their parameters. You know, if 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:11.160 on Animal Kingdom, that whole show is handheld in some steadicamp. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.560 And if I decided to shoot it like David Venture, 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.240 I'm definitely not gonna get hired. They're probably gonna want 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.360 to reshoot the show and it's not gonna look like 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.520 it's gonna stand out, and it's gonna feel very, very different. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.960 That's not what you want to do. Um. Conversely, like, 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.200 you know, if you work on a show like My 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.840 Hunter and then you decide to go all handheld, it's 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:31.280 just gonna be the wrong field completely. Um. So you 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.120 gotta you gotta be smart. You gotta be aware of that. 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.880 I mean, luckily there's tons of crew the DP obviously, 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.080 you know, sometimes you have a director producer there who 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.040 will guide you through the look of the show, the 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.880 style of the show, you know. And then you know, 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.880 I could be like, hey, can I get a crane here? 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.640 Can I can I use this piece of equipment there? 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.120 And they'll be like, you know what, we don't actually 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:52.920 use that kind of thing, but we do this kind 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.280 of thing, and so you sort of have to embrace 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.000 and adapt. Um. You gotta stay fluid, right, you gotta 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.480 be liquid about it. Um. And then once you get 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.560 on the set and we start shooting, then then then 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:03.960 we start baking eggs, you know what I mean? And 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.920 and um, you know, and I think it defines itself 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:09.960 pretty easily, but you gotta do the homework. There's definitely 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.520 a lot of homework. And that's why it's so cool. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.320 You know that you got you finally got your own 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.240 pilot because guess what, it has your your you know, 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.040 fingerprints all over it. It's like you said, you you 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.400 got to make a call, you got to pitch what 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.560 what how you saw the show going and they ended 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.280 up going with you out of everyone else that they 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.640 could have gone with. And so now it's everything that 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.560 you pitched and you formulated in your mind and you 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.520 created you know, kind of mixed and meshed beautifully with 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:39.040 the writer and whoever created the show. And uh and 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:40.600 and that's why it's such a big deal, or I 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.600 feel like it's such a big deal. Get they set 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.120 the look, the style, the lighting, um, you know, the 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.680 sort of the the style of performance to all these 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.120 things are are you know, get to sort of go 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:58.920 through my filter. Um, and you know, thankfully that the 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.200 show got picked up. Know, but like Nancy Drew was, 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.320 um to me always sort of a darker, more grown 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.680 up sort of feeling show. And so I was leaning 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.480 a lot towards Fincher for his work and a little 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:14.199 bit of Egger right. Um, and that's that's um. You know, 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.439 some some just some modern stylistic montage just cut between 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.919 um some just some stylistic filmmaking. You know, when we 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.440 shoot very simple, we shoot very efficiently. Um, you know, 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.280 because I believe, you know, I wanted to look like 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.520 a movie. You know, we're shooting animal for glens Is 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.639 you know here all that stuff. Um. So it was 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.000 a great honor. You know, this, this last pilot that 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:38.480 I was on before U before the whole industry shut 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.080 down because of the coronavirus, UM was going to be 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.159 an all handheld show. So I was totally going the 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:48.560 other way with it. It was called Maverick w um. 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.959 So you know, and hopefully I'm excited to get back 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.720 into that, you know, whenever that happens. So, so Larry, 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:56.879 let me let me let me ask you this before 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.240 we let you go. Let me ask you this, Larry Tang. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.280 If the first season of Nancy Drew, which was a 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.960 success because it got picked up for a second season, right, Okay, 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.160 So if the first season you were like, let's call 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.840 it ten and six. They were ten and six this year, right, 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.360 you know they were probably you know, first place, nine 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.080 and seven who made the wild card. Okay, okay, so 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.200 you're gonna you're gonna go not even better. We got 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.800 to hear that from from you. My question is what 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.240 is your prediction for season two? What is your record? 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:31.159 Do you make the playoffs? And what what? What is 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:36.960 going to happen? We absolutely make the playoffs and we 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:44.600 will hit the double digit wins. We'll tell you that. First. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.840 We're gonna go for the first six games. You're gonna 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.479 start off three and three, right, and then and then 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.440 we're gonna like rail off like seven in a row. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.760 I do I do like the Eagles did last season, 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.480 Jared to take some playoff l L T one One 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.159 quick one last question before I let you go, um 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.200 is if you could pick any actor, it doesn't I 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.320 don't care who it is, Right, you get free reign 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.719 here to come on and guest star for you for 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.719 one episode. Okay, guest star. They're not gonna be lead. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.679 They're gonna guest star one episode. We don't know what 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:17.600 the TV show is, right, I'm not saying Nancy Drew. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:19.560 I'm not saying one of your you just it happens 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.640 to be it's gonna be an episode of TV. Who 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:23.520 is that guest star that Larry Tang would like to 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.600 see on his show and he's directing? Oh my god, 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:35.400 I would say, it's gotta be de Niro. Oh all right, 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.520 that is good. Yeah, I juste like the clocks take 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.159 it on that guy, and I just need like I 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:42.760 just I just need to be able to work with it, 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:48.280 you know. So yeah, I like I would say, if 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:49.879 I had to guess, I would guess de Niro is 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:54.040 seventy seventy seventy five. He was in his seventies when 0:19:54.080 --> 0:20:01.120 they started The Irishman, and he probably, Oh my god, 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.080 that is so that is so funny. Well, Larry, we 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.160 would love to have you as a recurring guest here, 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.840 you know, pop in and out. We just we just 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.080 can't thank you enough for for coming on the Haypal 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.320 podcast and talking to us. And I just think it's 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.280 cool because you know, normally, like like Davo and I said, 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.479 you know, we've had Edelman on. We we've actually had 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.800 Joe buck on, which was cool. We had yeah, we 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:25.000 had Jeremy Piven. You know, we're gonna have j. J. Watt, Uh, 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.359 Kate Hudson, you know, a bunch of people here on 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.800 the show. And we also want to you know, flip 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:31.560