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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only

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Speaker 1: Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to here from our studios at

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Speaker 1: lambeau Field West, our last show of the twenty nineteen season.

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Speaker 1: As we mentioned yesterday, we'll be taking a break after

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Speaker 1: this one and probably rejoining the Packers Unscripted world at

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Speaker 1: the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. So with that, we heard

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Speaker 1: from general manager Brian Gudakunst earlier today. Gave the g

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Speaker 1: MS version of the season ending press conference. A lot

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Speaker 1: of similar thoughts in some ways to what we heard

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago from Matt Lafleur in a

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Speaker 1: lot of pride in what was accomplished, a lot of

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Speaker 1: disappointment and how things ended, and a lot of focus

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Speaker 1: starting away on how to improve. Yeah. Well, first off,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on another season of Packers on scripted. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of like the last day before school. Let's out here,

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Speaker 1: except we got to come back to work on Monday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have to come back to work on Monday. And

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Speaker 1: then and then you and I will maybe try to

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Speaker 1: start finding h some days that only you'll be here

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Speaker 1: and only I'll be here to try to uh man

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Speaker 1: the store while we get some breaks and and get

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Speaker 1: some of the rest of our lives taken care of.

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Speaker 1: But I thought, you know, Brian Goodacunts with him going

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Speaker 1: up there and given a thirty minute summation of this season,

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Speaker 1: was the perfect ending to this season, because one it

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Speaker 1: really began in a lot of ways. Well, Matt Lafleur's

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Speaker 1: hiring was the big issue. I mean that was the

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Speaker 1: big topic at the beginning of two thousand nineteen. It

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Speaker 1: was really those four free agents that they ended up

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Speaker 1: signing that kind of kick started this whole thing. And

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Speaker 1: I go back to that press conference right after Matt Lafleur,

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Speaker 1: I should say, Brian Goodacunts and everyone got the deals

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Speaker 1: done with SA Darius Smith and Preston Smith and Adrian

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Speaker 1: name is Billy Earner, and he said, you know, we

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Speaker 1: we want to this. These moves were made to basically

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Speaker 1: expedite this process to make us better, and ultimately it did.

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Speaker 1: Are there areas where the Packers still need to improve

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Speaker 1: going into Absolutely, Are they a lot closer I think

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Speaker 1: to being a championship caliber team than they thought nine

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Speaker 1: months ago. Absolutely, And listening to goods, just break down

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Speaker 1: different facets of the organization, from you know, the free

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Speaker 1: agents they signed, the draft class, the contributions they got there,

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Speaker 1: and just the overall performance of the team. I thought

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Speaker 1: it served as a very good summation and wrap up

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Speaker 1: of what was a you know, really unquantifiable, undescribable two

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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen season for the Green Bay Packers. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it was. It was certainly a successful season by

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Speaker 1: any measure. I don't think anyone in in Packers nations,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, would have expected with a first year

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Speaker 1: head coach and a second year general manager that you

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Speaker 1: end up one game away from the super Bowl, and

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Speaker 1: as as good a counts at as La Fleur said,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of pride to be taken that, But

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Speaker 1: by no means is anybody resting on that success, even

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Speaker 1: if it came earlier than expected or or was somewhat

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Speaker 1: unexpected from outside the building. Nobody's resting on that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Brian gouda Quinci actually had just gotten back from Mobile, Alabama,

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Speaker 1: He's looking at, you know, what's going to be out

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Speaker 1: and then he now he's back in Green Bay and

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Speaker 1: he had the had the press conference today. So the

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Speaker 1: work never stops for for these guys. And just as

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur was talking about, you know, kind of grinding

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Speaker 1: the tape and reviewing things and looking at you know,

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Speaker 1: how do you want to tweak the offense or you

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Speaker 1: know this or that. You know heading into you know,

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Speaker 1: these guys will get their breaks at some point as well.

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Speaker 1: But um, but you know, the constant churn, the constant grind,

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Speaker 1: the a work ethic and everything, that's what it's all about.

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Speaker 1: Because the Packers know they gave themselves a shot this

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Speaker 1: year and they want to give themselves another shot again

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Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, and you like we've been talking about

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Speaker 1: all those things are great. Okay, So now how can

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Speaker 1: you build upon that? And as Brian Goodkin's mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 1: this next couple of weeks here one, he's going to

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Speaker 1: is it feasible to go out and have a spending

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Speaker 1: spree like they did last year when they brought in

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Speaker 1: those four unrestricted free agents and and he said, no,

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Speaker 1: not really, especially if they go and you know, bring

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Speaker 1: back a Brian Blagger, a Mason Crosby, these these guys

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Speaker 1: that it could be potentially coming back after what I

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Speaker 1: think last year was mostly I mean it was Mercedes

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Speaker 1: it wasn't these big blockbuster contracts, So all that stuff

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Speaker 1: But he did say fiscally, they're in a good place

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Speaker 1: right now. They have room to move. If there's a

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Speaker 1: out and try to get that player. But the other

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Speaker 1: thing he pointed out too, is the backbone of this

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Speaker 1: thing is draft and developed. Unrestricted free agency is one avenue,

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Speaker 1: and there's multiple avenues to improving this team. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think there's uh. I think there's no doubt that there

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Speaker 1: can't be any expectation that the Packers are going to

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Speaker 1: make the free agency splash in March that they made

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Speaker 1: last year. You just don't do that two years in

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Speaker 1: a row. And as we had talked about, what the

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Speaker 1: from the draft class got a second contract. The Packers

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Speaker 1: did mention as far as speaking specifically about a certain

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Speaker 1: did address specifically was Kenny Clark and he did lay

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Speaker 1: out how important it is for the Packers to reach

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Speaker 1: a long term agreement with Kenny Clark. He's entering the

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Speaker 1: first round draft pick. In Goudakun has made you know,

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Speaker 1: no bones about the fact that about how important Kenny

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Speaker 1: And and he sounds very confident that Kenny Clark is

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Speaker 1: time to come. Absolutely, And this is a guy that's

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Speaker 1: In congratulations to him, he'll be playing in the Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl this weekend and enjoy the Florida Sun this week

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Speaker 1: exactly a very worthy honor. And as if I was

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Speaker 1: following his Instagram. I think he also spent some time

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Speaker 1: living it up in Orlando. But but you know, all

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Speaker 1: the past, the pass rush goes with him. He's just

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Speaker 1: such a big difference maker. And he's so young yet

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Speaker 1: But they do have a lot of resources that they're there,

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Speaker 1: that route. The fifth year option gave them this two

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Speaker 1: so while he still under exactly exactly, so all these

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Speaker 1: you look statistically, I mean he's right up there with

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Speaker 1: terms of just total dominance at that defensive tackle position. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: talk about it at times as well as you go

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Speaker 1: no denying that I thought what Goodakun said though, was interesting,

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Speaker 1: paraphrasing a little bit, but this offseason is not entirely about, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how do we go how do we figure out a

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Speaker 1: I think that's the smart approach because one, you were

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Speaker 1: it could be somebody else. Every year is different, Every

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Speaker 1: so you never know how this thing is going to go.

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Speaker 1: And just as another example in this point I'm trying

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Speaker 1: a reason. But in the Minnesota Vikings went fifteen and

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Speaker 1: I bring that up just so that you know, between

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Speaker 1: they going to bring these guys back or not? Well,

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Speaker 1: you just you just have to be patient and let

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Speaker 1: this play out. Every once in a while, you'll see

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Speaker 1: like that LaTroy guy on happened, you know, in like February.

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Speaker 1: talk about two thousand and fourteen. It was actually technically,

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Speaker 1: I guess be right it was. It was. It was

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Speaker 1: March of was after season. I should clare cob and

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Speaker 1: on them. There's a handful of them. I don't have

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Speaker 1: it isn't guaranteed until you play. These are the fun

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Speaker 1: The way those and they'll make those decisions. But for

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Speaker 1: the Packers to be in a position now where they're

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Speaker 1: trying to build towards another Super Bowl, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how many people would have legitimately been saying that eight

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Speaker 1: this team took And I'm writing I'm writing this an

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Speaker 1: insider inbox for what would be the Saturday edition. Now.

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Speaker 1: As much as we talk about Matt Lafleur and the

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Speaker 1: changes that underwent on offense, Mike Petton had to go

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Speaker 1: That personnel changed significantly. It was a different group of players,

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Speaker 1: So for it was a mixture of year two guys

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Speaker 1: so that's where this process goes. They'll have months to

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Speaker 1: figure it out. It's going to be exciting, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be thrilling, and we'll see exactly what the NFL

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Speaker 1: Scouting Combine will bring. Yeah, and that is when we

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Speaker 1: will see you next, most likely will be from Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: and the NFL Scouting Combine, which has like a different

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Speaker 1: I think the work week will be a little bit

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna try talking to our producer Matt Arvin,

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Speaker 1: our wonderful video producer Mike Atkinson, I think we'll probably

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Speaker 1: try to do a preview going into Indianapolis and then

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Speaker 1: I just I can't never believe how quickly the combine

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Speaker 1: always seems to come around, well, especially when you get

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Speaker 1: to the conference championship game. Then you know, you sort

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Speaker 1: of do the aftermath and then yeah, before you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh yeah, we gotta make our travel plans

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Speaker 1: for Indie. Let's get going. But it was an exciting year.

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Speaker 1: It was thrilling. I appreciate you putting up with me

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Speaker 1: all year. I appreciate our wonderful fans checking us out

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Speaker 1: a Packers unscripted It's been blast buddy, all right, with that,

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Speaker 1: we will call it a rap on the season of

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Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our coverage

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Speaker 1: of the team throughout the off season on Packers dot com,

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Speaker 1: there's all kinds of great video anton out there on

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Speaker 1: the Packers YouTube channel for WES I am Mike. Thank

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Speaker 1: next time. Ye