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Speaker 2: We all kind of expected this to happen, and you

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Speaker 2: try to work together to make it happen, and in

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Speaker 2: this case, obviously the result was the Darius Smith being moved.

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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell and Josh McDaniels are really closed. Josh has

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Speaker 2: been a mentor of Kevin's for a long time, so

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Speaker 2: I expect some like fun, a little back and forth

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Speaker 2: lead up in that week.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Minnesota Vikings podcast and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot to talk about this week. It's just

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Speaker 1: a small things that have been happening around here. I've

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Speaker 1: got Gabe Henderson and Jane Nelson with me, Eric Davison

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Speaker 1: putting the edit together as always, and guys right out

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Speaker 1: of the gate, I mean Tuesday morning, Vikings of actually

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Speaker 1: announced they've traded Zadarius Smith. This frees up some cap space.

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Speaker 1: They also received fifth round picks in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: and twenty twenty five. Browns get six and seventh rounders

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. You know, Later on in the show,

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Speaker 1: we have the athletics Alec Lewis as our guest to

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about it, and his cohort

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Speaker 1: Jeff Howe, one of the NFL writers over there, gave

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Speaker 1: Cleveland an A grade in Vikings a C grade.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling about that?

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Speaker 4: I know I work for the Vikings, but that's pretty

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Speaker 4: fair for the caliber of player that Zadarius Smith is.

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Speaker 4: To only get two fifth rounders in return in twenty

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Speaker 4: that's the biggest win unless you just wanted to get

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Speaker 3: Well, you get the money, some money backed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was my thought was the flexibility of the

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Speaker 5: salary cap is probably one of the bigger elements of that.

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Speaker 5: I understand when you look at it on paper and

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Speaker 5: you know that often and kind of you know, just

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Speaker 4: Unless there's going to be a major announcing of a

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Speaker 4: he was unhappy, I allegedly.

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Speaker 1: But it had been a cancer in the locker room.

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Speaker 4: But I look at it as a business too, right, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and yeah that Marcus Davenport is a great player, but

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Speaker 3: Or what the other offers were you know, maybe this

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Speaker 5: I look at it as if you had a guy

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Speaker 6: To me, it was more of.

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Speaker 5: A thing of listen, man, like you kind of got

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Speaker 4: So it's a fifth rounder and next, I guess twenty

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Speaker 4: that's I think my initial impression when I saw it,

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Speaker 1: it's a buyer's market because like they were really looking

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Speaker 7: You know it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: That's a victory for me.

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Speaker 5: gonna be ramifications like fallout from this move. We're sitting

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Speaker 3: Could be the best fifth round pick in NFL history,

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Speaker 3: you know out pretty well.

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Speaker 7: Crazier things, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Viking's also announcing on Tuesday morning the dates and times

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Speaker 1: of preseason games TBD to the trip over in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: So that's up in the air for the first one

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Speaker 1: at seven o'clock against Tennessee. So August nineteenth, that's a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Then the next Saturday, August twenty sixth, is at noon

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Speaker 1: it's a nice little home stretch there before we go

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Speaker 1: pretty much almost every other for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: Inklings that there could be some joint practices potentially obviously.

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Speaker 3: When you have those two home games.

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Speaker 1: We do know this staff likes to have joint practices

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that tells me that, I mean, I know this

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Speaker 7: Have two really good opponents.

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Speaker 7: Get the rest of the weekend exactly, and then you

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Speaker 6: So listen, it's better than it used to be.

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Speaker 5: Where you would play at Seattle for that final one,

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Speaker 6: But you know, joint practices.

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Speaker 5: You've seen a bunch of Will Levis highlights that I've

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Speaker 7: But it's fun. No, no, no, social media, it's doing

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Speaker 5: Let's be honest, but it's fun because you know, you

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Speaker 4: Part of that, especially if this is a Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: I just I didn't know what easterg was, and so

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Speaker 7: I was like, Easter eggs, this is not even Yes, yeah, there's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Randulf the Whites, Yeah, it was it was great.

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Speaker 7: I enjoyed the video. It was cool.

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Speaker 1: And I think after you win, you know, the free

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right now, And it was kind of fun. I

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Speaker 6: That's how good John is at all.

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Speaker 6: So it was pretty impressive.

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Speaker 3: That's impressive. Yeah. Well, we guys, we guys.

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Speaker 3: Well, the ownership was great.

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Speaker 6: It was fun.

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Speaker 5: It was you know, even if Con saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: It was perfect.

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Speaker 1: It got funnier as you went on, which I think

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Speaker 5: But here's the thing. You know, one of the things

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Speaker 7: I mean I think the Panthers did something like that.

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Speaker 4: Good one, and I know like for their God, they

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Speaker 1: I think the Falcons was the best social media phone one, yeah,

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Speaker 5: time and effort into all of these huge names, coordinating it,

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Speaker 5: shooting it, lighting it, editing everything, and then to go

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Speaker 5: in and just have people be idiots on the street

444
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Speaker 5: and having that just completely blown. And kudos to then

445
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Speaker 5: they put both of them out simultaneously, but it was

446
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Speaker 5: just crazy to me that production wise, the amount of

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Speaker 5: time and effort they put into it, and it just

448
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Speaker 5: got absolutely obliterated.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if it was supposed to be like a

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Speaker 1: TikTok release, Like you know how we had the Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins and Andrew Paula and Nick Mullen's kids do a

452
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Speaker 1: kid release, which was also adorable. If you haven't seen

453
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Speaker 1: that on TikTok, you should go. That was like our

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Speaker 1: TikTok release. I'm wondering if that was supposed to be

455
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Speaker 1: the TikTok release and then it just literally ended up

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Speaker 1: on having like.

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Speaker 3: Matre millions and millions of views. Oh my god, I.

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Speaker 6: Feel like it.

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Speaker 4: Like it talking about tapping into your culture, the Tennessee

460
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Speaker 4: Titans tap into their culture, and like that's why I

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Speaker 4: appreciated that so much, Like I mean, the you love

462
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Speaker 4: big productions and whatnot, But it's like who are we,

463
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Speaker 4: Like what are we doing and like the fact that

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Speaker 4: you can do that and like make it brilliant.

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Speaker 6: There's two places you could have done that.

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Speaker 3: I know it was so well done.

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Speaker 5: It would have been Broadway and Las Vegas Boulevard. Those

468
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Speaker 5: are only two places to do that.

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Speaker 1: Here's my thing. I think you could do it on

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Speaker 1: Bourbon treat at the right time. But here's my thing

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Speaker 1: with Las Vegas Boulevard. I went there during the draft

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Speaker 1: and I tried to do a man on the street

473
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Speaker 1: and I was asking some Minnesota questions and nobody really

474
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Speaker 1: played along. Maybe the logos would be better, But I

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Speaker 1: have to say kudos to the Titans because even just

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Speaker 1: the way that the sequence in which they edited it

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Speaker 1: all together, yeah, really just saying like having the girl

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Speaker 1: at the beginning drop an F bomb and then having

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Speaker 1: the explanation, like having the reactions as then showing the

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Speaker 1: logo of what they're talking about, because if you did

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Speaker 1: it the opposite way, it's just not the same effect.

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Speaker 1: And so the reveal was always just like Saint Louis Saints.

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Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous, And I'm just wondering if these people knew,

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Speaker 1: like you have to ask them if they're okay to

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Speaker 1: be on it.

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Speaker 6: They say yes' on a waiver or something. You got

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Speaker 6: to give it. You gottaet permission to.

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe they've seen it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but but here, but like the one

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Speaker 1: girl who called them the red Stallions, Yes, the Falcons

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Speaker 1: just like tweeted out her photo and said the Red

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Speaker 1: Stallions have got to go. So you're I'm thinking, like,

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Speaker 1: this girl just goes out to Broadway one day in

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Speaker 1: a black tank top, just mining her own business, and

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Speaker 1: then now she's like an internet sensation.

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Speaker 6: Hats off to Atlanta for being willing to do that,

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Speaker 6: you know.

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Speaker 5: Just that was the thing that that was fun about

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Speaker 5: it too, is just feel it felt like everyone played

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Speaker 5: along with it, and I think all the news outlets

501
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Speaker 5: and everybody picked up on it as well. It was

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Speaker 5: it was a lot of fun. So Atlanta Florida Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: That was a good one too. I like the forty

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Speaker 3: nine sixty nine ers stars.

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Speaker 7: The people.

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Speaker 1: I mean there were times when they were like saying

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Speaker 1: things where I was like, oh, they got this, they

508
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Speaker 1: totally got this, and then it's like cowboys colts.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The other one was the that doesn't exist, and it

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Speaker 5: was the Jaguars yea.

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Speaker 1: Which is great for them because it's they're obviously AFC rivals.

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Speaker 3: So I love that.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to bring in Alec Lewis in just

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Speaker 1: a second, but before we do, I know, we talk

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Speaker 1: about this with him. So I wanted to get your

517
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Speaker 1: opinions on this as well. There was a tweet coming

518
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Speaker 1: out recently, top ten offenses in the NFL post draft. Yeah,

519
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Speaker 1: missing on the milk curtain with the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, why do we think, why do we

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Speaker 3: think they were left off?

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Speaker 1: Why these offices are better? Like the chargers are up

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Speaker 1: there and I get the charges are good.

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Speaker 7: I still feel like people don't trust Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's like the main reason because you see

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Speaker 4: the weapons. But I feel like experts look at it

527
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Speaker 4: and say, well, Kirk, you just don't trust him in

528
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Speaker 4: crunch time and in the league of what if you've

529
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Speaker 4: done for me lately? Kirk's last play as a Minnesota

530
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Speaker 4: Viking last year was check down to TJ.

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Speaker 7: Hokinson.

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Speaker 4: So the weapons are there, but yeah, yes, people just

533
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Speaker 4: don't don't trust Kirk yet.

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Speaker 5: So if there's anything on this that would put them

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Speaker 5: in the top ten. I think it's also part of

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Speaker 5: the reason why we have five primetime games so far

537
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Speaker 5: in the schedule. You have a guy who was a

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Speaker 5: offensive Player of the Year, you have a guy who

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Speaker 5: is potentially face of the league coming up here in

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Speaker 5: different facets, and I think it blows my mind to

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Speaker 5: think that we added a guy in Jordan Addison, you

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Speaker 5: have a TJ. Howkinson, and you have a basically what

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Speaker 5: a lot of people are consensus at least number two

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Speaker 5: in the NFC quarterback wise, and you're telling me that.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me that brock Purty, potentially coming back from injury,

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Speaker 1: is going to have a better offense than the Vikings.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: To me, it just you look at who's on here, Philly, Dallas,

549
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Speaker 5: San Francisco, and Detroit. Those are your NFC representatives when

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Speaker 5: you're talking purely, when you're on here where it says

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Speaker 5: top ten offenses. I think the whole idea, and we've

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Speaker 5: heard Quacy and Kevin talk about this. Their whole thing

553
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Speaker 5: is we're just going to try to sprint people. We're

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Speaker 5: gonna try truck me, and that's what that's the thing

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Speaker 5: we're gonna try to score as many points as possible,

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Speaker 5: so hey, keep throwing this kind of bulletin board material

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Speaker 5: out there.

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Speaker 6: There's gonna be a lot of people upset in that

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Speaker 6: locker room.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Like you think about it, they

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Speaker 1: don't mind being downed. They were doubted last year. And

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Speaker 1: even if you win the championship, you don't have much

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Speaker 1: turnover on offense, you're still being doubted. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they mind being in that position.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the best position to be in is underrated.

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Speaker 4: How much rather it be underrated and overpaid than overrated

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Speaker 4: and underpaid?

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Speaker 3: Ooh, there we go, well on that.

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Speaker 1: Not someone who is not overrated and probably underpaid.

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Speaker 3: You know, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: But he makes he should, he should make the big bucks,

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Speaker 1: is what we are going to say. Here is Alex Lukes,

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Speaker 1: and we'll bring him in the podcast now and now

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Speaker 1: joining us on the Minnesota Vikings podcast The Athletics alec Lewis,

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Speaker 1: who has been feverishly busy writing about rookie Mini Caamp,

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Speaker 1: about the trade today, about schedule release. There's just been

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Speaker 1: a lot going on after a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: a wier off season.

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Speaker 3: Alex, how's it going it's great, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You guys for having me. I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed being out there for Rookie Minute Camp. It

582
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Speaker 2: was like pretty perfect weather, like sixty five degrees. I

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Speaker 2: guess that could have been Sonny, but I enjoyed being

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Speaker 2: out there. That was the moral of it.

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Speaker 7: What's it out to you about Rookie Minicamp.

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Speaker 2: I mean there were two things. One Kevin O'Connell really

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Speaker 2: the amount of emphasis he put on, like how serious

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Speaker 2: they were taking and it wasn't like an overly serious thing,

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Speaker 2: but it was mostly like we've talked so much about

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Speaker 2: player development and how important we feel that is. And

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Speaker 2: when I say we like that was him talking about

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Speaker 2: both he and Quasi and Dolpha Mensa and really just

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Speaker 2: the entire teams like executive group, and I think when

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Speaker 2: you're introducing new rookies like that is a period at

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Speaker 2: which you can really capitalize on the player development. So

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Speaker 2: that was one of them. And the other was just

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Speaker 2: I mean, really like how fluid Jordan Addison looked. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know that's pretty basic, but the way I described

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Speaker 2: it in the story I wrote after Rookie Minicamp was

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Speaker 2: like when you're young or when you go to like

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Speaker 2: your your nephews like youth sporting event, like you can

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Speaker 2: kind of just tell pretty quickly like the kid who's

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Speaker 2: like really athletic and fluid and just natural. And that

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Speaker 2: is just how Jordan Adison looked among guys who were

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Speaker 2: who were competing and trying out for an NFL spot.

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Speaker 2: So that was that was Those were to me the

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Speaker 2: two takeaways that I exited with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you were out there, you kind

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Speaker 1: of it's hard to tell and gather a ton of

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Speaker 1: info because they are working on so many fundamentals. It's

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Speaker 1: drills at the end of the day, there's no contact,

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Speaker 1: there's none of that that you can really start kind

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Speaker 1: of evaluating players. And again, these guys are like just

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Speaker 1: out of college, so they're just trying to like catch

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Speaker 1: them up to the NFL. But I know that you know,

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Speaker 1: there's been some hype around a couple of undrafted free agents,

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Speaker 1: especially the linebackers that you also wrote about.

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Speaker 3: One of them.

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Speaker 1: What sticks out to you about Andre Carter the second

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Speaker 1: who's an exciting outside linebacking prospect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's huge. First thing that's that sticks out just walking,

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Speaker 2: I mean, after Kevin O'Connell's press conference the day that

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Speaker 2: we were out there for rookie mini camp, Andre Carter

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Speaker 2: was just walking around, and I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: like I just I was like, who is that gigantic athlete?

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Speaker 7: Who?

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Speaker 2: Who? I mean, he doesn't look like uh, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he looks kind of like a basketball player. I think

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Speaker 2: that's that's also how I thought about it, And I

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Speaker 2: think in some ways that speaks to the development that

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Speaker 2: that the Vikings are hoping to see with him, and

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Speaker 2: that he does need to get a little bigger, he

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Speaker 2: does need to get a little stronger to be able

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Speaker 2: to impact games on the edge in the NFL. But

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Speaker 2: I know the team really prioritized him, and I think

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Speaker 2: they were really happy that they were able to add

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Speaker 2: him to their undrafted free agent group. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: other guy that I think is really interesting and is

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Speaker 2: Ia Junior. He played at Cincinnati. Kevin O'Connell said, like

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Speaker 2: you watch his film, he's one of the best linebackers

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Speaker 2: on tape in this entire draft and the fact that

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Speaker 2: the Vikings could add him in the undrafted portion was

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Speaker 2: really interesting. So those those two guys and just their athleticism,

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Speaker 2: I think some of their production in college. Both guys

645
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: put up really good numbers at times in college, and

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Speaker 2: I think their two guys that Vikings fan should probably

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Speaker 2: just keep an eye on as this entire summer and fall.

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Speaker 4: Does develop, as you know, the spring and summer if

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Speaker 4: all develops. Are there any storylines that you're you know,

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Speaker 4: focused on now that rookie Minni campus out the way

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Speaker 4: and some of those guys, well, I guess a lot

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Speaker 4: of the rookies that have been signed are now with

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Speaker 4: some of those veterans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the thing for me that I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at our Danil Hunter and his contract situation. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's only I believe, due to make around five and

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Speaker 2: a half million dollars of base salary, So that's something

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Speaker 2: that I'm thinking about. The other thing is the Justin

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Speaker 2: Jefferson extension and the potential of that. But I I mean,

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Speaker 2: both of those are kind of obvious talking points, and

661
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Speaker 2: for me, I maybe this is boring or this people

662
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: can scream at me for it, but I think the

663
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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins year two and Kevin O'Connell's offense and the

664
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Speaker 2: comfort there, and just Kirk in general. He's just always

665
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Speaker 2: been fascinating to me, and I think the more I've

666
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Speaker 2: I've been around him up close, the more I I

667
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Speaker 2: don't know, just just think some of the things that

668
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: he has to navigate on a weekly basis and how

669
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Speaker 2: he has been able to do that. It's just always

670
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Speaker 2: gonna probably pique my interest. So how he handles this

671
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: year and and leading into this fall, I think it

672
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Speaker 2: is something I'm really looking forward to just watching, observing

673
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: and trying to learn about.

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Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, we were just talking about a tweet that

675
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: came out ranking you know. Now, it's not like we're

676
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: not like saying this is, you know, the holy grail

677
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: of all tweets, but like top ten offense a post

678
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: NFL draft, and the Vikings were not in it. They

679
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: were not in the top ten respect. I mean I disagree.

680
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Speaker 1: Maybe call me a homer, that's totally fine. But after

681
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Speaker 1: what you just said about, you know, watching Kirk and

682
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Speaker 1: growing in Kevin o'cunnell's offense and not really losing too

683
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Speaker 1: many names from the previous season where they were a

684
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Speaker 1: top ten offense except for maybe Adam Thielen, I mean,

685
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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts, Alec?

686
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Speaker 3: Would you defend them as a top ten offense?

687
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

688
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Speaker 2: I think I would, And my reasoning is, I mean,

689
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Speaker 2: obviously I could send that person a Justin Jefferson highlight

690
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: tape and that would try to help. But my reasoning

691
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: would actually probably be about the offensive line kind of

692
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: its second year, of all five guys who started last

693
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: season being together working with Chris Cooper, the offensive line coach.

694
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: I really like Garrett Bradberry and Brian O'Neil both talked

695
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Speaker 2: probably in the last month about just the importance of

696
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: of the continuity within that room, but also the importance

697
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: of continuity with coach Chris Cooper, who they both raved about,

698
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: And so I think it's a little bit of an

699
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: underrated and probably just now I think the sexiest like

700
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: conversation point to talk about the offensive line continuity, But

701
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: I think it really matters. And when you have that

702
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: and you have guys who believe in kind of the

703
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: trajectory of the offensive line room, alongside all the weapons

704
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: that the team obviously has, and a coach who is

705
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: on the forefront of offensive football, I think you have

706
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Speaker 2: a recipe for what I believe is going to be

707
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Speaker 2: a top ten offense.

708
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's good to have offensive linebacker, right

709
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 4: because that's where it starts. But if you move to

710
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: the defensive line or outside linebackers. You have a story

711
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 4: on the Athletic right now that is titled Vikings Trades

712
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 4: Darius Smith, Why Minnesota move from the Pro Bowl pass rusher?

713
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Speaker 4: Can you explain that a little bit why he's not

714
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: in Purple again this year?

715
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of it comes

716
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: down to money and what Zadarius Smith's hopes were. I mean,

717
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: he signed initially with the Vikings a three year deal

718
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: that was kind of backloaded, but nothing in the back

719
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: was guaranteed. And so after he'd produced the way he

720
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: perceived he did, which I mean he did record ten

721
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: sacks last year and and his pressure rates, specifically through

722
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: the first ten weeks of the year was was elite,

723
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Speaker 2: I think he believed he uh deserved a certain amount

724
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Speaker 2: of money. The Vikings, they I mean, they're obviously they

725
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: have been captain strain the entire offseason. Uh, they look

726
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: at Zadarius Smith and and he is There's no doubt

727
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: that he is aging, and he navigated multiple injuries and

728
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: has over the years, and so I think they just

729
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: didn't want to to re to rip up his contract

730
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: and re up there and and especially after they signed

731
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Speaker 2: Marcus Davenport as another EDG rusher alongside Daniel Hunter. I

732
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: think we all kind of expected this to happen. But

733
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Speaker 2: I think as in most cases, this is a busy

734
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: this and two sides want two different ones, and you

735
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: try to work together to make it happen. And in

736
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Speaker 2: this case, obviously the result was Zadarius Smith being moved.

737
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Speaker 1: And I know that you mentioned Marcus Davenport is someone

738
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Speaker 1: that could fill that void that Zadarius leaves in the roster.

739
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Is there any other name or names that you might

740
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Speaker 1: be watching to see take a leap to be able

741
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Speaker 1: to fill in that production.

742
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean, and they're kind of

743
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: gonna have to guys like Patrick Jones and guys like

744
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: dj Wanham who we saw last year and have seen

745
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: over the years in spurts. Like I mean, I go

746
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: back to last training camp. Believe Mike Smith, the Vikings

747
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: pastro specialist, talked about Patrick Jones as a guy who

748
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: he's like, look this is we I mean, we really Uh,

749
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: he's got one of the best get offs in terms

750
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Speaker 2: of ruffing rushing the passer on our roster and in

751
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: our room, and I think the Vikings are gonna need

752
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: to see that from a guy like him. I mean,

753
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: of the two guys, Patrick Jones, to me was the

754
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: one who flashed, maybe a little bit more so, and

755
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 2: I thought he was really good at times kind of

756
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: operating behind behind Zadarius and Daniel. So I'm looking forward

757
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: to see him. And I also think, like Marcus dad

758
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: before we talked about, but I think the upside exists

759
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: to be a little bit bit higher of what we've

760
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 2: seen in the past. Now he's got to stay healthy

761
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: and I think the Vikings are going to have to

762
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: put him in situations where he can thrive. But I

763
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: think it's possible that he kind of outproduces how people

764
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 2: might project him to produce, just on the surface.

765
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Speaker 1: Okay, I like we prepared you for this, so you

766
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: knew that you were walking into this. But we are

767
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: going to kind of go through the schedule game by game.

768
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Speaker 1: You can say winn or loss. If you want to

769
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: say something a little extra, we'd love to hear it.

770
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 3: I know already.

771
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Speaker 1: Let me preface this that there was an article on

772
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Speaker 1: the Athletic where you chose that Philly game the Thursday

773
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Speaker 1: night football four days after the opener as the must

774
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Speaker 1: watch games. So before we get to each one, why

775
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Speaker 1: did you see that one out?

776
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Speaker 2: I think just because I thought about last year's Philly

777
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: game and how it was the same week it was

778
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: on in prime time, and it just, I don't know,

779
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: to be it really like it set the stage for

780
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: the season. It made people think pretty critically about what

781
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: the team could be, and so I think that's that's

782
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: why I chose it. I also just think the Vikings

783
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: are gonna be pretty motivated given what happened last year,

784
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: to go in there and and and kind of flip

785
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: the result. It's not gonna be easy. In fact, it's

786
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: probably gonna be extremely difficult. But that's why it.

787
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 4: Showed that outside of playing Green Bay, is there a

788
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Speaker 4: better team to play Week one at home than the

789
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Speaker 4: Tampa Baker Mayfields.

790
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Speaker 2: Uh, that's phenomenal. I don't I'm probably not, to be

791
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 2: honest with you. I mean, I do think they have

792
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: some interesting pieces and like Mike Evans and Chris Godwin

793
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: are going to test the cornerback depth. But but but

794
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: those guys have to be thrown the football. And yeah,

795
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: that's that's why I I think you're.

796
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: Probably right there game, which, so that is that a

797
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: W dub?

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00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, all right?

799
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: What about Philly? Then right after.

800
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Speaker 2: I'm going to project a lost. It's kind of I'm

801
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: going chalk, but yeah, I have a ton of analysis.

802
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: Philly is just such a talented team and stacked really so.

803
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 4: Well, sixteen and one is still in tact. So La

804
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 4: Chargers up next.

805
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: I went through this in my head and I know

806
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: you guys are looking for rapid fire, but that doesn't

807
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: really work with me. I'm never say they win that game.

808
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: Okay, that was rapid fire. Come on.

809
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 7: Now.

810
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: The next game, they're on the road at Carolina, up

811
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: against former teammate Adam Thielen and his new crew with

812
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, you know, a guy that went to Alabama,

813
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: which I know you love.

814
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

815
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: Selfishly, I'm really looking forward to watching Bryce Young. But

816
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: that's a Vikings win.

817
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at this next week, like Kansas

818
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: City is the first of four games this year where

819
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 4: they're playing teams that were in conference championships last year.

820
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 4: So when we look at that Kansas City Chiefs game,

821
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: is that a win or is that a loss?

822
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a loss. Okay, mostly because

823
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: I just can't really create a window in my head

824
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: to pick against Patrick Mahomes really for anybody. But yeah,

825
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: so I'll say a loss there.

826
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently Patrick Mahomes, according to Alec, will go undefeated

827
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: this season.

828
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding.

829
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: That's not a bad I mean, there definitely better worse

830
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: bets you can make football, all right. The next week,

831
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: the first Divisional game at Chicago Vikings kick off that

832
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: NFC North campaign, or at least the defending NFC North

833
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: championship campaign against the Bears.

834
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Speaker 3: What do we think about that one?

835
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: I think that's a win. I think the Bears are

836
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: gonna be better, but I don't think their roster or

837
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: kind of the structure, and our team is nearly as

838
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: good as Minnesota. So i'll say that to win. I

839
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: think we're at four and two here. I got to

840
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: keep track of that.

841
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know we're We're keeping track of it for you.

842
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: We got you right here, good, good, thank you.

843
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 4: Monday Night Football, San Francisco, forty nine is what you got.

844
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 7: That's a lost, and I thought the music would get you.

845
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, man.

846
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, it was a good at tip game

847
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: was well done, not because of primetime, but because the

848
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 2: forty nine ers in their in their past rush. It's

849
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 2: just I mean, they are really tough.

850
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: Okay, after that, you get a short week to face

851
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: Green Bay in lambeau Field Halloween weekend.

852
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: What do we think.

853
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to project a loss here, and it's not

854
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 2: one that Viking people listening to this podcast are gonna enjoy.

855
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: But that is just how I feel. I I really

856
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: last year's game of Lambeau kind of sticks with me

857
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: for for not the most positive reasons, because of just

858
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: how much of a massive team. So yeah, I'll say a.

859
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 7: Loss, No love lost there.

860
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: But what about November fifth, the first you know what

861
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 4: the fact that you have US.

862
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: What foreign four for four and four, so in.

863
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 7: The month of October one in one.

864
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: It's not Kirktober anymore.

865
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 7: Not kirk Toober. You've got US three in Kirktober.

866
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: And we'll move on to November at Atlanta, the second

867
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 4: of back to back roll games.

868
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: So you got Yeah, I'm taking the Vikings in Atlanta.

869
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: I think Atlanta and I wrote about this, I mean,

870
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: they have added a ton to their defense, and I

871
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: think offensively they have some nice weapons, but Minnesota is

872
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: a better team in Atlanta and so yeah, Vikings.

873
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: The next weekend, the New Orleans Saints back at US

874
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: Bank Stadium.

875
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: What you got?

876
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: Another win? The Vikings. I believe are are are again

877
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: the better team than the Saints. I know the Saints

878
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: added Derek Carr, and yeah, the Saints lost one of

879
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: their key defensive coaches and Ryan Nielson, who actually interviewed

880
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: for the Vikings job. So I'm taking Vikings.

881
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: The next week is interesting to me. Sunday night football

882
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 4: is the most interesting part because it's at Denver, a

883
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: team that didn't make the playoffs last year.

884
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm gonna predict a a I went

885
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: through this exercise, but I think I'm gonna predict the

886
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 2: Vikings win here. I mean at Denver is gonna be tough.

887
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: I believe it. Again, it's in prime time, but I

888
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: don't as much as I respect Sean Payton and I

889
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: think they'll be better. I just I'm not totally sure.

890
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: So I'll take the Vikings.

891
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: Is Sean Payton dangerous enough? I'm just kidding.

892
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 7: I like to play on words.

893
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a deep cut, now, Wiley, wasn't a

894
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: three game wind streak? Now for you Alec Heading into

895
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: a Monday night football game at home against the Bears

896
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: the week before the bye.

897
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: What do you think of this one?

898
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think the Vikings are going to beat the

899
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: Bears at home, and I think that'll be a pretty

900
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 2: fun atmosphere Monday night against the Bears. If the Vikings

901
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: are are do what they're supposed to do, this should

902
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: be a pretty fun one.

903
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially right before the by which means Vikings fans

904
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: can head to Vegas early before the December tenth game

905
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 4: against the Raiders.

906
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 7: So who you got that week?

907
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: I've got a great trip everybody who's going out there.

908
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the Vikings. I

909
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: think I'm I'm really I'm adapting my picks in terms

910
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: of positivity compared to how I went through the exercise.

911
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: But that should be fun because Kevin O'Connell and Josh

912
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: McDaniels are really closed. Josh has been a mentor of

913
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: Kevin's for a long time, so I expect some like fun.

914
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: A little back and forth lead up in that.

915
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Week on the home stretch here a road game after that,

916
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: so back to back at Cincinnati. We're not sure day

917
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: or time going in to play Joe Burrow and the

918
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: and Jamar Chase connection.

919
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: What is what's that one?

920
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 7: Yeah?

921
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, the winning streak in Cincinnati. I just think they're

922
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 2: so talented and really well coached. So yeah, I'm gonna

923
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: take Cincinnati there.

924
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 4: Well, and back to back years we've played on these

925
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 4: on Christmas Eve. So this year is against the Detroit Lions,

926
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 4: a team that's favored to possibly be in a Super Bowl.

927
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: You got the Vikings winning and losing that game.

928
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: I think when I first went through by myself, I

929
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: think I had the Vikings winning, but I think I'm

930
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: gonna take I might take the Lions here. I think

931
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna flip it. I'm very back and forth on

932
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: this the Vikings Lions this year. I will tell you

933
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: Brian Flores has given Jared Goff so much trouble in

934
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: the past, and so I think among the Brian Flores

935
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: qualities what he's gonna do, I think one of the

936
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: things is is he gives you a chance in the

937
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: division against the team that's projected to win from an

938
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: odds perspective. And so I know I'm saying that, but

939
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Lions in that game.

940
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: Hey, rounding this out with a New Year's Eve Sunday

941
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: night football game at home against Green Bay Vikings, ending

942
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: the season with Dome games. So no whether these last

943
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: final three games will be a factor.

944
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: How do we feel about the second Packers game? You

945
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 3: had us losing the first one.

946
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Viking. I'm gonna take the

947
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Vikings at home against the Packers. They'll get it back,

948
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: got it?

949
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, that'll be an electric atmosphere.

950
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 4: You would have got canceled if you came to Minnesota

951
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 4: Vikings podcast and said the Vikings.

952
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: But I will say I've been pretty positive. What's the

953
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: record right?

954
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 7: Ten six?

955
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 4: First, I we'll take it back to back winning ten

956
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 4: wins seasons since two thousand and nine.

957
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 7: I love it.

958
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 3: And there's still one to go at Detroit.

959
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: I said Detroit at home, and I projected in my

960
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 2: my story at the Athletic ten and seven. But I'm

961
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: actually I'm gonna put it up. I'm going to say

962
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: the Vikings win in Detroit, they get them back, and

963
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: that's an NFC North title ceiling game. Yeah, so I'm

964
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna go with the the Viking. Kevin O'Connell

965
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: and their ability to game plan at Detroit and make

966
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: that happen.

967
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: That's amazing. Okay, eleven and sex.

968
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 7: I love that he gave us a one.

969
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: Game improvement from his original prediction because he's on the

970
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 3: Vikings podcast.

971
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm also no, just kidding, Yeah, eleven and six, Well.

972
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: Alex, we love your work. You can catch it over

973
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: at the Athletic dot Com. Well, I know that before

974
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: we got on the call with you today, you were

975
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: saying you're working on a piece about one of the

976
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: Vikings rookies. You want to tease that for our Vikings

977
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: fans listening.

978
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I've done a lot of work talking

979
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: to people who have spent time around Jared Hall. And

980
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 2: that's private quarterback coaches, that's his offensive coordinator b Yu

981
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: and he's a really interesting guy and I think a

982
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 2: leader in the capacity that that Vikings fans will really

983
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: gravitate too. So yeah, story coming on Jaron Hall, and

984
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: then we'll have a couple other things later this week

985
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: and early next. So the work doesn't.

986
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: Stop, No, never does. The NFL is a twenty four

987
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: to seven season, and.

988
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 7: You do good work, my friend. Appreciate you.

989
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: Thanks appreciate of course.

990
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: Yes, oh no, Yeah, we want to make sure you

991
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: make your tea time. So a lot of Minnesota people

992
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: will definitely relate to that again again, you can catch

993
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: his work at the Athletic dot com or follow him

994
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: at Alec Underscore Lewis as a l e. C.

995
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 3: Thank you just in time, go have some fun.

996
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: Alec Lewis the athletic phenomenal person, does phenomenal work. And

997
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 4: another phenomenal piece of work that we were promoting here

998
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 4: at the Minnesota Vikings podcast is the Bob Hagen Podcast.

999
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 7: Jay.

1000
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 4: I know you've been a part of that for it

1001
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: feels like a long time now. Bob Hagen recently retired.

1002
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: Just a legend here with this Minnesota Vikings organization. Just

1003
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 4: can you can you give fans an explanation what of

1004
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: what is going on with that?

1005
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 6: Yeah? Sounds great.

1006
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 5: You know Craig Peters as a writer here for the Vikings,

1007
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 5: he did a really cool and in depth story. Bob

1008
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 5: Hagen was here since nineteen ninety one. It was announced

1009
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 5: kind of this past offseason that he's going to be

1010
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 5: moving into more of a consultant and advisory role. I

1011
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 5: know he's still running around the building, but as far

1012
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 5: as he's kind of pulling back a little bit and

1013
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 5: doing a retirement piece, and we wanted to make sure

1014
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 5: to give Bob Hagen his flowers. Bob's got such incredible

1015
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 5: stories and friends within this industry. He's kind of the

1016
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 5: friend to everybody. His entire span of thirty plus years

1017
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 5: working for the organization, he has some incredible stories, and

1018
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 5: we wanted to talk to both Bob and everybody else

1019
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 5: that's been involved with it. I know there's a lot

1020
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 5: of people here within PR local sports people, Joe Schmitt,

1021
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 5: Randy Shaver, Don Mitchell, Sam Farmer from the La Times,

1022
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 5: Peter King, just a whole host of people that wanted

1023
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 5: to be a part of this and to kind of

1024
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 5: give their take on it. Even a really cool Fran

1025
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 5: Tarkington story. He was Bob's childhood idol and he got

1026
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 5: to meet him and then, you know, over the years,

1027
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 5: got to be to befriend him and kind of Some

1028
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 5: of the other great stories that are in there too

1029
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 5: are his time worth, both Sid Hartman and Bud Grant,

1030
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 5: and some of those are incredible. So there's gonna be

1031
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 5: kind of a joint thing that's going to come out here.

1032
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: There's going to be a longer podcast that we're going

1033
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 5: to put out here later this week, and then Craig

1034
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 5: Peters has, like I said, a supplemental written piece that's

1035
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 5: going to go with it, And within there, there's actually

1036
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 5: going to be some embedded nuggets that were left out

1037
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 5: of the main piece regarding Bob's history with Pizza, this

1038
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 5: legendary story of him helping sid Hartman meet Prince at

1039
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl right before his crazy story, and Bob's

1040
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 5: love of tennis and being able to go to Wimbledon.

1041
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 5: So there's a bunch of different things within this. There's

1042
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 5: going to be the longer podcast that'll come out on

1043
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 5: this normal feed, just like your MVP. And then on

1044
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 5: top of that, make sure to check out Craig Peter's

1045
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 5: written story about Bob. Bob is an absolute legend here. Internally,

1046
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 5: we love him and you know it's going to be

1047
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 5: weird to see him kind of pull back a little bit.

1048
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 5: But at the same point, you're gonna get a really

1049
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 5: good taste here of what Bob meant to everybody, and

1050
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 5: it's really.

1051
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: Cool looking forward to seeing how that turns out. I know,

1052
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 4: there's so many people that have done so much work

1053
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 4: making that come to life, and ultimately it's a celebration

1054
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 4: of Bob Hagan for what he's done here in this organization. Jay,

1055
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 4: just final thoughts on just this week, we got schedules

1056
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 4: finally out the way. It's finally football season where community

1057
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: campus over. So it's I mean, the team is the

1058
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 4: team at this point.

1059
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 6: That's the thing. The guys.

1060
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 5: You're seeing more and more of the guys in the

1061
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 5: building doing workouts and it's that time of year where

1062
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 5: you're ramping easing into the actual football side. It's great

1063
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 5: to see the weather changing and seeing the guys out there.

1064
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 5: There's a whole lot of new guys too, walking around

1065
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 5: the building kind of trying to point them in the

1066
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 5: right direction if you need to. But it is fun

1067
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 5: to see everybody out and it just kind of helps

1068
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 5: give you a little bit more juice this time of

1069
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 5: year to feel like football's a right around the corner.

1070
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 7: I love it. This was a great podcast.

1071
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was fun.

1072
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 5: It was fun to have you guys here, and I

1073
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 5: think Alex Lewis was great as well. So it was

1074
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 5: cool to you know, put this thing together and you know,

1075
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 5: looking forward to doing it again next week.

1076
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 4: For j Nelson Tatum Everett, mister Alec Lewis from the Athletic.

1077
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 4: My name is Gabe Henderson. We'll talk to you guys

1078
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: next week.