1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Did you know that there was a group called the 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Homeland Intelligence Experts Group at Joe Biden's Department of Homeland Security. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Probably wouldn't surprise you that this shadowy group had their 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: ir set and their eyes set at Donald Trump supporters 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: and also talked about ways to surveil Trump supporters. Well, 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: we'll talk to the organization that was able to disband 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: this Department of Homeland Security group and through a lawsuit 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: against the Department of Homeland Security, was able to discover 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: what was discussed with these so called experts. You're not 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: going to want to miss that. We're going to talk 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: to Gene Hamilton, who's the general counsel of America First Legal, 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: about what he was able to discover. What America First 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Legal was able to discover about this group. We'll also 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: get into immigration and Joe Biden's open border policies with him. 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: How difficult would it be to have a mass deportation policy, 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: have a mass deportation program in the United States. Also, 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Erica First Legal is taking action against Joe Biden's executive 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: order trying to shield those five hundred thousand illegal alien 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: spouses from deportation. We'll get into that with him. He 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: served under the Trump administration at the Department Homeland Security 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: as a senior counselor there, as well as counselor to 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: the Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: under Donald Trump. So the guy knows a lot. America 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: First Legal is doing great things. We're getting get at 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: all that with Geene Hamilton. Stay tuned well, Gene, it's 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: great to have you on this show. I've had Stephen 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: Miller on before. From America First Legal. You guys are 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: doing great work and there's an abundance of things to 29 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: take legal action against. Sadly, but appreciate you coming on. 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely well, thank you for having me. It's really incredible 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: times that we're seeing as a country and we're thrilled 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: to be in the fight to try to save it. 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: So you served as the counselor to the Attorney General 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: under the Trump administration, but also counselor to Sexuary of 35 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: Homeland Security as well. You know, you worked on a 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: lot of the immigration policy during the Trump administration. Imagine 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty frustrating to see what's going 38 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: on right now and what this current president has allowed. 39 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: Oh well, frustrating, frustrate is an could hardly begin to 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: describe the utter catastrophe that we are seeing and experiencing 41 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: in this country. Of these things that I think the 42 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: American people they get and they realize now that under 43 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's leadership, you know, we have the most secure 44 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: border in our history, and we fought for things, and 45 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 2: we fought to ensure integrity, that there was actual enforcement 46 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: of our laws, and to have all of that just 47 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: thrown out the door by this Biden regime under to 48 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: the guys of you know whatever, their latest woke ideology is, 49 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: their latest belief system that borders don't matter and that 50 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: anyone from anywhere can come to the United States anytime 51 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: that they want, as long as they just physically step 52 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: foot inside the country. You know, I think folks recognize 53 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: the predicament that we're in. They recognize that Donald Trump 54 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: have the better position, the better policies, and you know, look, 55 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: we'll see what the future holds well. 56 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: And I think what's the most frustrating is is you 57 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: put it out it's a choice. You know, it doesn't 58 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: have to be like this. We can have a secure border, 59 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: and President Biden holds the power to make that happen, 60 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: and instead he's done the opposite, where you know, he's 61 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: made the border not secure and has left us with 62 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: open borders. You know, as we approach this twenty twenty 63 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: four election, do you worry about illegal aliens voting and 64 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: this election? 65 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: But you know, not only do I worry about it, 66 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: but I know it's a absolute certainty that it will occur. 67 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: You know, for the longest time, aliens have been registering 68 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: to vote in this country and have in fact been voting. 69 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: No one really knows to the precise degree to which 70 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: it's occurring. But when you know that elections can be 71 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: decided by one or two or three or one hundred votes, 72 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: you know that every single vote counts, and so it's 73 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: one of these most fundamental, kind of practical things that 74 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: you could ever do, is to ensure that only citizens 75 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: are on your voter roles. And yet it has become 76 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,559 Speaker 2: this misting for the left, as though it's this myth, 77 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: it's this complete and total myth. But the reality is 78 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 2: is that no one actually knows the degree to which 79 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: illegal aliens are present on the voter roles, because no 80 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: one has ever actually done the hard work of doing 81 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: a one for one comparison between who's actually registered to 82 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: vote and who actually might be an illegal alien. So 83 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, it's the biggest farce for anyone to say, oh, well, 84 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,119 Speaker 2: this isn't happening, because actually no one really knows, because 85 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: the only way that they've been able to actually take 86 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: care of this in the past has been for one 87 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: off cases to arise and the context of an investigation 88 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: in an eventual criminal prosecution of someone after the fact, 89 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: years after the fact, after the election's over, and so 90 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: you know, it's a real problem. It's especially a real 91 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: problem in the year twenty twenty four when you have 92 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: lots of states who do things like send out automatic 93 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: mail in ballots to everybody. You have states that are 94 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: in a hurry that are registering people to vote for 95 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: all kinds of things and not verifying citizenship at the 96 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: point of registration. When you have a federal Election Assistants 97 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: Commission form that only asks for people to swear or 98 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: affirm that they are in fact a citizen without having 99 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: to show documentary proof in fact that they are a citizen, 100 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: it's the perfect storm that's coalescing in creating this situation 101 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: in which when one vote can change the outcome of 102 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: an election, you have all of these factors working on 103 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: the other side, it becomes one of these things where 104 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: you say, why aren't we doing everything in our power 105 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: to stop illegal aliens in other foreign nationals from voting 106 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: in American elections? It seems like the simplest common sense 107 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: proposition you could ever imagine. 108 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: Well, and I think what concerns me in the most 109 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: is the media has really gone into overdrive telling us 110 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: that it's not something to be concerned about, which means 111 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: that it. 112 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: Is be concerned about. 113 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're always lie, I know us, and I 114 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: don't think they would go to this length to to 115 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: try to shod shut it down and to downplay it 116 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: if it wasn't a concern. In what ways can I 117 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: legal immigrants go and vote? Like how difficult would it 118 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: be for them to do so? 119 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so you know that kind of depends on 120 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: the state in which the particular person resides. One of 121 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: the most common ways that it used to happen, although 122 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: you know, the degree to which it does anymore kind 123 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: of varies. Is when someone goes to register for a 124 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: driver's license and they claim to be a citizen. There 125 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: check the box say I'm a citizen and then because 126 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: the motor voter rules, they automatically get added to the 127 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: voter registration list based on that. Now we've had the 128 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: real ID Act that has complicated some of that system 129 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: and made it a little bit harder for folks to 130 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: use in most states there. But it's really this Federal 131 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: Election Assistance Commission form that I mentioned earlier that anyone, 132 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: literally any person in the country can mail in and 133 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: the states have to accept based on current Supreme Court 134 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: president states just have to accept it and can't do anything, 135 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: can't require anything else beyond what someone puts on this 136 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: form at the point of registration to have to prove 137 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: that they're a citizen. When you have a type of 138 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: a situation, But do you think that, like, do you 139 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: think that the federal government is helping on their own 140 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: initiative states to verify that these people using the federal 141 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: form are in fact citizens. No, they're not. I mean, 142 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: they're absolutely not. There is no unity of effort, there's 143 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: no kind of coherence cohesion behind what the Feds or 144 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: are doing to try to protect the integrity of our 145 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: immigration system. And so we're left again with this situation 146 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: in which folks are able to register to become voters. 147 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: We also are left with situations where whether it's the 148 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: FEDS or states are providing voter registration forms or helping 149 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: to try to encourage people to register to vote at 150 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: the plant in which they're receiving government benefits, whether that's 151 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: at the welfare office, whether that's when they're at the 152 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: Social Security office, whether it's part of President Biden's whole 153 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: of federal government effort to try to get people to 154 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: sign up to vote. That the opportunities are everywhere for 155 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: people to manipulate this system intentionally or unintentionally, and yet 156 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: added to our voter roles. And again, the most common 157 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: sense thing that you could ever do as a country 158 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: is just simply verify on the front end and verify 159 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: on the back end that someone in fact is a 160 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: citizen when they're seeking to vote and to cast a 161 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: ballot in our elections. 162 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: We've got more with Jeene Hamilton, but first, since the 163 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: terror attacks in October seve seven, anti Semitism has been 164 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: on the rise, not just in Israel but here at home, 165 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: in the US and around the world. That's why I 166 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: have partnered with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, 167 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: and today I'm coming to you, my audience, to ask 168 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: that you stand with us in IFCJ to raise your voice, 169 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: just as Oscar Schindler and Corey ten Boom did. This 170 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: pledge is asking Christians to stand with their Jewish brothers 171 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: and sisters to never be silent, to show the Jewish 172 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: people that they are not alone, that they have gotten 173 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: Christians on their side. For the month of June, we 174 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: are asking Christians to sign this pledge, which will be 175 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: delivered to the President of Israel, to show that Christians 176 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: in America are not only standing in solidarity, but they 177 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: are speaking up too. Let's take a stand today with 178 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews to let the 179 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: Jewish people know that they're not alone. To sign the pledge, 180 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: go to SUPPORTIFCJ dot org, support IDJ dot org to 181 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: take a stand today. Joe Biden recently issued an executive 182 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: order shielding almost five hundred thousand illegal immigro and spouses 183 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: from deportation, also setting the broad work for children as well. 184 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: Part of the problem is, you know, Joe Biden keeps 185 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: putting forward policy initiatives and are getting rid of, you know, 186 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: things preventing illegal immigration and it's this push pull where 187 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: we're just now encouraging illegal immigrants to come to the 188 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: United States. Imagine that this will only intensify that. I 189 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: know AFL has taken action against this. What are you 190 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: guys trying to do? And what's your biggest concern here? 191 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: Well, Lisen, you know, just like we've seen Joe Biden 192 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: completely decimate and undermine the integrity of our immigration system 193 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: and every other context imaginable, what this latest program that 194 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: was announced does is, in fact, it rewards people for 195 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: coming into the country illegally by granting them a past 196 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: the citizenship here within the country, even though black letter 197 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: law says that black letter laws past mind you by 198 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: bipartisan Congresses says, you cannot actually get your pathway to 199 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: a green card and you cannot get your citizenship if 200 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: you came into the country illegally and you stay here 201 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: long enough to get lucky, to fall in love and 202 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: to get married, or whatever the case may be. And 203 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 2: so what Joe Biden did by announcing this thing is 204 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: called parole in place. So this is the most insane 205 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: twisting of the laws you could ever imagine. Congress passed 206 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: a limited statue that says the Secretary of Homeland Security 207 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: can parole into the United States anyone on a case 208 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: by case basis for urgent humanitarian reasons or for significant 209 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: public benefit. So think, you know, in terms of an example, 210 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: think of a guy in Tijuana who's having a heart attack, 211 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: needs some urgent medical treatment, and the only place around 212 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: that has a bed is in San Diego, so they 213 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: need to take him there to save his life. Well, 214 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 2: using the prole authority, you can bring that person in. 215 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: Or maybe it's a cartel's girlfriend who they need to 216 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: bring in as a material witness. They don't have time 217 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: to get her a visa to come in, and so 218 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: they're going to use parole to bring someone in. It's 219 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: that type of scenario in which this authority is supposed 220 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: to be used, but Joe Biden has used it time 221 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: and time again to bring in countless hundreds of thousands 222 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: of illegal aliens into the United States. So he's using 223 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: this in the context of the HNV program that a 224 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: lot of folks have heard about, where he's flying into 225 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: the United States three hundred and sixty thousand aliens from 226 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: just four countries directly into the interior of the United States. 227 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: He says that this same stats Toroy provision allows him 228 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: to do that. He's saying that the same stats Toroy 229 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 2: provision allows him to release hundreds of thousands of illegal 230 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: aliens at the southern border into the interior of the 231 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: United States each and every month. And now what he's 232 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: doing with this latest thing is he's saying, if you 233 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: have been in the United States, you're an illegal alien. 234 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: But notwithstanding the fact that Congress has said that you 235 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: can't obtain your green card while you're here, that in fact, 236 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: you have to leave the United States and then come 237 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: back in after some waiting period, that he is going 238 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: to use the same authority to quote unquote roll you 239 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: in place and allow you to remove that black letter 240 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: bar to being able to obtain your Green card in 241 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: your pathway to citizenship. So he's using this same exact 242 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: speciatory tool saying that it basically makes him god. He 243 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: can do whatever he wants. He can create his own 244 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: immigration system. And now, while they're saying that this latest 245 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,239 Speaker 2: announcement is limited to you know, spouses of US citizens 246 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: who are here in the United States illegally, and that 247 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: this is going to benefit you know, five hundred thousand 248 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: people or something, is what they say. What people at 249 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: home need to realize, there is no limiting principle to 250 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: what Joe Biden announced, that number, the category, the criteria 251 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: they that they selected for this, that's just solely decided 252 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: by some bureaucrat within DAHS. There is absolutely no limiting 253 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: principle that would prevent Joe Biden from extending this same 254 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: exact program to every single illegal alien presently in the 255 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: United States today, presently in the United States, in the future, 256 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: a year from now, two years from now, whatever the 257 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: case may be. And so this is really the ultimate 258 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: tool that they're hoping to use to be able to 259 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: grant as much administrative amnesty as they possibly can, as 260 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: quickly as possible. It's dangerous. It needs to be stopped. 261 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: It's unfair. We used to understand push pull factors. We 262 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: used to understand that you wanted to disincentivize illegal immigration 263 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: into the United States, and yet here we are today 264 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: with the President of the United States himself creating benefits 265 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,479 Speaker 2: and magnets for folks to come here unlawfully. 266 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: You know, we're at a point now where the majority 267 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: of Americans support some sort of mass deportation program, and 268 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: including the majority of Hispanics in the country. How difficult 269 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: would that be for a president to accomplish? 270 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know, look, logistically speaking, there's there's we you 271 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: would be talking about a lot of people. But one 272 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: of the other things, you know, I like to maybe 273 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: think through here as an analogy is, you know, the system. 274 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: It might not be a perfect analogy, but think about 275 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: our tax system. Right, No one really likes paying taxes, 276 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: but everyone kind of does it. And our system, if 277 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: the I R. S Was forced to conduct an audit 278 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: into you know, Levy and Garnish wages on every single 279 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: person until they paid their taxes, would be somewhat arduous. 280 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: It would be somewhat difficult to do. To enforce your 281 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: tax laws through individualized every single person, you're going to 282 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: throw the gauntlet of the fettereral system behind it at them. 283 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: But the reason why our tax system works, relatively speaking, 284 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 2: is because there is a credible threat of enforcement. There 285 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: are and when you have a credible threat of enforcement, 286 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: it induces self compliance with the law. The reason why 287 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: you and I file our taxes is because it's the 288 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: law and it's what it's what you need to do. 289 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: But of course it is also the case that we 290 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: don't want to deal with a tax on it. We 291 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: don't want to deal with the fact of the government 292 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: coming after us. And so there are tools in the 293 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: immigration system in the I in a that can be 294 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: used to help ensure that people comply with their legal 295 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 2: obligations and that they depart from the United States if 296 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: they're in violation of law. And let me just give 297 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: you one quick example, which is that there are actually, 298 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: I think the latest number I saw was one point 299 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: three or one point four million aliens in the United 300 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: States who have had their day in court. They have 301 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: been ordered removed by a judge, but they're still here. 302 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: Those folks are not only here every single day in 303 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: violational law. They're subject to fines, They're subject to all 304 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: kinds of different things that could be levied against them. Now, 305 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: would you have to go pick up one point three 306 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: one point four million of them to achieve to achieve 307 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: your objectives, your policy objectives. No, you just have to 308 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 2: start enforcing the law against enough people that folks decide, 309 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: you know what, I get it, I've got to comply 310 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: with the law. I might not like it, I might 311 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: not want to leave, but I understand my obligations as 312 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: a as a as a human being functioning in the world, 313 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: that there are laws and I have to abide by them, 314 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: and so I am going to leave on my own accord. 315 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: I want to switch gears a bit to what you 316 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: guys are calling the Deep State diaries and some documents 317 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: that you've uncovered. Take us through sort of, you know, 318 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: sort of the big picture what you guys have uncovered 319 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: and what people should know. 320 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, look what we have uncovered. So Joe 321 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: Biden set up this committee, Joe Biden's DHS to be specific, 322 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: it's called the DHS Intelligence Experts Group. What this group 323 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: is is the group of outside officials, private actors that 324 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: they brought in to advise the Department of Fumland Securities, 325 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: Office of Intelligence and Analysis. Now, mind you, eight percent 326 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: of these advisors on ninety percent of donations from these advisors, 327 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: I should say, went to Democratic candidates for office and 328 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: not to Republicans. So you can kind of see the 329 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: type of folks that they brought in. So it's people 330 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: like John Brennan and James Clapper, amongst others, and they 331 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: brought in this committee of so called experts they should 332 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: do and to use the tools that are available to them. 333 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: We sued to stop this thing because they didn't comply 334 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: with the Federal Advisory Committee Act when they set it up. 335 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: We prevailed in that litigation and DHS agreed to wind 336 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: down this committee and give us all of their internal 337 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: notes that they took and during the various meetings. But 338 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: what these notes reveal and what we have seen are shocking, 339 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: and we've been exposing them on a daily basis on 340 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: social media through our press releases, etc. It reveals the 341 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: inner thinking of these weaponized actors, folks like John Brennan 342 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: and James Clapper talking through different things, and you can 343 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 2: see evidence that they appear, apparently to believe that people 344 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: like supporters of Donald Trump are the greatest threats of 345 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: domestic terrorism in the United States. They appear to think 346 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: that people who served in the military or have you know, 347 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: religious or people of faith are potential threats to safety 348 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: of insecurity of the United States. And so you see 349 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: this this complete biased, uh, I don't I don't even 350 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: know how to put put it into words, this complete 351 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: biased and a purtisan group of individuals trying to tell 352 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: the federal government, trying to tell an office within the 353 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: federal government, what they should be doing, how they should 354 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: be thinking things through, and what it amounts to and 355 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: what it looks like to us, and it probably looks 356 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: like to everyone at home. Is the equivalent of how 357 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: to weaponize one part of the government against your political opponents, 358 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: against people that you think pose a threat to you, 359 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: using tools that were available and created in the week 360 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: of nine to eleven, against your political opponents. And if 361 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: that doesn't shock and scare you as an American and 362 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: inspiring you to demand policy changes to prevent these things 363 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: from happening, I don't know what will. 364 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: Well, it's you know, pretty scary because obviously what they're 365 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: doing to Donald Trump extends beyond him. As you just 366 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: pointed out, you know that they've got their r pointed 367 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: at anyone who supports the president, anyone who supports America 368 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: First policies. How concerned should people be that their government 369 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: might be illegally spying on them because you know, they 370 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: support President Trump and they want them to win in 371 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. 372 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I mean, no one if you asked someone, 373 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: let's just say, five years ago, if they thought that 374 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: the federal government would ever be engaged in a censorship 375 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: campaign against private speech online on the Internet. I say 376 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of folks would probably say, that's the 377 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: craziest thing I've ever heard. There is no way that's 378 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: ever going to happen. That we have the First Amendment, 379 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 2: and this is the United States of America, and this 380 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: is just not going to be a thing. Now if 381 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 2: you fast forward to today, everyone who lived through the 382 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: last several years, especially with the COVID whole situation and 383 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: the censorship that came out and the documented proof of censorship, 384 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: that of course I have to plug America first, Sgal, 385 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: we are the first ones to expose and provide proof 386 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: of this collusion between the CDC and the big tech 387 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: titans of the world and the Biden administration to show that, 388 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, these things that you thought could never 389 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: happen in the United States of America, that are violative 390 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 2: of the law, that violate the Constitution, in fact do 391 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: happen because no one in the mainstream media, no one 392 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: amongst you know, quote unquote polite society, speaks out, no 393 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: one shuts it down. The ends always justify the means 394 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: for the left, and so, you know, would you put 395 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: it past them to engage in spying. Would you put 396 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: it past them to engage in political prosecutions of political opponents. 397 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 2: I think if you asked most right minded in center 398 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: Americans today, they would say, well, of course that's a possibility. 399 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: It's sad to say. It's a really bad state of 400 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: affairs that our country is in. And these are the 401 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: types of things that the American people are tired of seeing. 402 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: They want to see change. They don't want to see 403 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: weaponized government on the basis of you know, loitical thought, 404 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: political belief, and yet they're seeing examples of it day 405 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: after day after day over the last you know, three 406 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: and a half years here or so. 407 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: We've got to take a quick commercial break more with 408 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: Geene Hamilton. Geane, appreciate you what you guys are doing 409 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: in America First Legal and breaking all these important issues 410 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: down for us. You know, where can people learn more 411 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: about America First Legal and where can they help out? 412 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, we have a website that's a f legal 413 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: dot org. You can go there and see all of 414 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: our latest releases, find out about the cases that we're 415 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: working on across the country. We're also active on all 416 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: the social media platforms. You can follow us on X 417 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: True social Facebook, Instagram, amongst others. And you know, look, 418 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 2: we we want to get our message out. We are 419 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: here fighting for the American people. We're fighting for the 420 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: rule of law in this country. We have cases all 421 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: across the legal spectrum. Whether we're talking about fighting for 422 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: civil rights, for Americans to be free from racial discrimination, 423 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: whether we're talking about fighting for the security of our borders, 424 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: the category of immigration system, holding woke and weaponized government accountable. 425 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: You name the issue, we're on it. I would encourage 426 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: you to follow us on our social media platforms good 427 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 2: or our website learn Morge. When our email list become 428 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 2: part of our team, become part of our fight. We 429 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: need all the support that we can get. It is 430 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: the times could not be more critical, and it could 431 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: not be more important for us to stand up against 432 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: those who wish to do this country. 433 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: Harm and unfortunately, you know, there's a lot of that happening. 434 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: Geene Hamilton, General Counsel, America First Legal, really appreciate the 435 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: work you guys are doing and appreciate you taking the 436 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: time to join the show. 437 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, of course, thank you very much for having 438 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: me on, Lisa. 439 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: That was Gene Hamilton, General Counsel for America First Legal. 440 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate him coming on the show. Appreciate what they're doing. 441 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys at home for listening. Also want to 442 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: thank John, Cassie or my producer for putting the show together. 443 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: Until next time.