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Before you head to 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: your local hair salon, think twice. Right now, we are 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: on the trail of a gorgeous young missing mom, Joelane 12 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Jensen Cummings has two little boys, hasn't been saying or 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: heard from since she left work at Tangles Beauty Salon. 14 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for 15 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: being with us, and the plot seems to thicken. Joining 16 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: me right now, Lee Agan, investigative reporter with Crime Online 17 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: dot Com. Lee, please explain to me why a salon 18 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: coworker is revealed to have an assumed identity and right 19 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: now police are zeroing in on another hair dresser. What 20 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: that is, correct, Nancy? And what's going on with Kimberly Kessler, 21 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: which is her real name? Is that she's had eighteen 22 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: different identities over the pat since Now wait a minute, 23 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: clears something up, formula. When you say Kimberly Kessler has 24 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: had all these various identities, your Kimberly Kessler is not 25 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: the missing the lady, the missing woman, the mother of 26 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: two little boys. Is wow, she's pretty, she's perfect. She 27 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: works at a salon, Her hair is perfect, her face 28 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: is perfect, everything about her is perfect. Jolene Jensen Cummings 29 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: is a young mom who disappears. Last time she was 30 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: seen was it Tangles Beauty salon Julie, Florida. Now this 31 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: woman has all these identities eighteen whoa, Now that's her 32 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: co worker who also works at the salon. Right, that's correct, 33 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: And please say that Kessler has also had numerous different 34 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: job titles over the years. She was a truck driver 35 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: at one time, worked in restaurants, um, different hair solids 36 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: at different salons. And they think she has something going on, 37 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: um where she's using these jobs as a cover. Well, 38 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: hold on, Lee Agan, Uh, you could say that about 39 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: me too. I've been a receptionist at an office, worked 40 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: at a sandwich shop where I had the the the 41 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: awesome task of cleaning the bathrooms and mopping the floors 42 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: every night. I mean, Dr Daniel Bober is with me 43 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrists. Last. I look, having a long series of 44 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: different jobs is not a felony. So what what does 45 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: it matter that this woman, this coworker has all these jobs? 46 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: Dr Bober? You know it's interesting, Nancy. Um, this is 47 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: my only job. It's the only thing I really know 48 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: how to do. But you know, one of the thing 49 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: never did anything else in college. Yeah, I worked in 50 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: a pharmacy. I was at TechEd. Okay, So I mean 51 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: you mean you worked with drugs. Yes, I did. See. 52 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you can make anything look bad if you 53 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: want to, that right. That probably doesn't surprise you that 54 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: I worked with drugs. But Nancy, you know, there's something 55 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: called the Psychopathy Checklist, which is actually a measure that 56 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: we used to measure psychopathy. There's our psychopaths and one 57 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: of the things they look at our our job changes. 58 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: People that have multiple job changes are are known to 59 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 1: be unstable and more. It's one factor that we look 60 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: at with people who are psycho paths. Not that I'm 61 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: saying that this woman is a psychopath, but multiple job 62 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: changes on someone's resume is usually a red flag, especially 63 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: if they're for a very short duration. Okay, I'm gonna 64 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: take your word for it, because you're the forensic psychiatrist, 65 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: not me, guys, f y I psychiatrist. That means he's 66 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: got an m D. A medical degree. I al your 67 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: doctor plus uh an additional degree in psychiatry. Okay, Lee Egan. 68 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: Enough about Dr Daniel Bober and his pristine work record 69 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: and his resume. Let's get back to this coworker with 70 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: eighteen aliases. Now that's a problem. Cheryl McCallum, director of 71 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: the Cold Case Research Institute. You know how much I 72 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: used to love it, love with a capital L, when 73 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: I would be trying a defendant and when I would 74 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: introduce him to the jury. Oh the drama. Cheryl McCollum, 75 00:04:53,680 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: a k A. Also known as Cheryl Green, also known 76 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: as Blah Blah blah, and go through every single alias, 77 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: and I make sure that they were indicted with every 78 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: single alias on the front of the indictment because I 79 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: didn't know why, but I knew there was something wrong 80 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: with that. I mean technically, like Dr Daniel Bober has 81 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: a psychiatric explanation of why that's wrong. Okay, I just 82 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: knew you instinctively it was wrong, and I'm sure the 83 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: jury did too. Weigh in the best way to hide 84 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: You change your name, You change everything about you. People 85 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: are not gonna be able to locate you if your 86 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: name is different. So this woman has eighteen different aliases, 87 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: but she's also moved from state to state to state. 88 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: She has jobs where they don't do a deep background check, 89 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: so you walk in the salon, they pretty much hire 90 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: you the same day you come in. If they're desperate, 91 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: they don't know who you are. So this woman literally 92 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: has been hiding in plain type back to Lee Egan 93 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: and investigative reporter with Crime online dot Com. Okay, Le, 94 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: sorry about the detour. Pick it up. The thing is, 95 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: when she had these different jobs, she would change her 96 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: name each and every time. She never kept the same name. 97 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: And that's where red flag that the police picked up on. 98 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: And for some reason they there's are they think there 99 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: is a reason that she keeps changing her name. She's 100 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: hiding something. What we know right now is that this 101 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: gorgeous young mom of two boys, joelne jess And Cummings, 102 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: has disappeared. Last seen at Tangles Hair Salon in Yulie, Florida, 103 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: Lee Aigan Crime online dot Com reporter, when was the 104 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: last time she was saying She was last seen on 105 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: May thirteen. She was supposed to pick up her children 106 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: and she did not show up. Obviously raised the red 107 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: flag with all of her family because she is very 108 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: much a hands on mother and she spends a lot 109 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: of time with them. She separated from the children's father 110 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: and she was supposed to meet him at a parking 111 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: lot to pick them up, and she did not show up, 112 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: Sheryl mccollumn, director of the Cold Case Research Institute. The 113 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: parking lot, you know, I'm right in the middle of 114 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: writing a nonfiction book about how to stay safe in 115 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: a world of crime. Parking lots are you know. We 116 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: we have to live with them. They're a known danger, 117 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: but a parking lot presents a whole unique set of danger, 118 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: explained Nancy. There's a lot of coverage for people to hide, 119 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: whether it's under your car, beside your car, or frankly 120 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: in your car. Um So the parking lot a lot 121 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: of times you're distracted, whether you have packages, or your 122 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: woman's in for your keys, or you're trying to maneuver, 123 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, several children. A lot of times we're not 124 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: paying attention walking to our car. We feel very safe, 125 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: so we're just distracted and thinking about other things, and 126 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: somebody can pop up in a in a moment and 127 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: brandish a weapon and get us to get into our 128 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: car with them. You know what's interesting, Chryl McCollum. Everyone 129 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: with me, Righttor of the Cold Case Research Institute, Cheryl. 130 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: Another thing about parking garages, specifically, if the perp knows 131 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: the victim, that means they know you're coming. You're the 132 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: person coming back to this particular car. If they know 133 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: that much, they probably know what time you're coming back 134 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: to the car. For instance, many many times, as you 135 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: will recall, when I was prosecuting, I would go out 136 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: take and then it was polaroid pictures of crime scenes 137 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: and do my own investigation. I come up to the courthouse. 138 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: If it was a regular day, anybody would know what time. 139 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: Generally I would come back to the car, usually in 140 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: the dark. When I would get back, so many times 141 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: my car would be had the windows bashed out and 142 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: I'd have a tire slit everybody. If you're looking for 143 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: a particular person, you know when they're coming back to 144 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: the car, you know how much time you have, or 145 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: you know when to be there to lay in wait 146 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: to ambush them. So that's a whole another set of 147 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: danger regarding parking launch Cheryl McCollum. It is in Nancy. 148 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: Also with a co worker. Here's the reality. If somebody 149 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: walks up to you that you work with and say, 150 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: oh my word, my car won't start, the batteries dead. 151 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Can you give me a ride to pet boys or 152 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: can you give me a ride to the gas station. 153 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: He wouldn't think twice to allow a co worker inside 154 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: your car to give them a short ride somewhere. Back 155 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: to Lee Egan, Crime Online dot Com reporter. So once 156 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: she goes missing and doesn't pick up her children, I think, 157 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: actually it's two boys and a girl, Lee Egan, when 158 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: she doesn't show up to to pick them up. You know, 159 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: after work, does the family here from her? Do they 160 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: get a text message, a phone call, anything? Absolutely nothing 161 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: at all, radio silence. I've heard nothing from her since 162 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: that day. I'm taking a look at this right now. 163 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: Dr Daniel Bober Forensics like HIH is with me along 164 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: with investigative reporter Lee Egan and Cold Case Research Institute 165 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: Director Cheryl McCullum. I'm looking at it, and this is 166 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: just like every center you go to. There's um, you know, 167 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: where there are four or so anchors with the tall tower. 168 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: It's like a little village. And then around it are 169 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: others tangles Here, Salon, They're they're all over the country. 170 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: On one side is Dick's Wings and Grill. On the 171 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: other side is Game Over, video games and more. And 172 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: in the center the anchor is tangles Here Salon, clearly 173 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: bringing in the most business. You know, in that scenario, 174 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: Cheryl McCullum could have been anybody. I would look at 175 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: the customers all, not not necessarily women, but I first 176 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: look at guys. I look at the ex boyfriend, the 177 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: ex husband, if you know, if there are any, the 178 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: current love interests, if there are any. I would look 179 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: at all of the customers that she had dealt with 180 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: that day, particularly the men, only because statistically they're more 181 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: likely to have kidnapped her or harmed her. Then I 182 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: would look at delivery people. I would look at the 183 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: people that worked on either side of her where she 184 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: went for a lunch that day? Did she go to 185 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: a Jersey Mice? Did she go to a Subways? Did 186 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: she go to Taco Bell? Who was there? Get surveillance video? 187 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: That's the route I would first take. So what I'm saying, 188 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: in a in a shopping center like this, Sheryl McCallum, 189 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: it could be anybody, you cast that net as wide 190 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: as you can, because it absolutely could be anybody. But 191 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: there's no doubt with an ex if she's supposed to 192 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: meet them to exchange the children, you've got to look 193 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: at that person. So you're gonna maybe waste some time, 194 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: But that's that's a go to. That's what a one. 195 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: What about it? To Dr Daniel Bober, I agree, Nancy. 196 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean I think you have absolutely cast a wide net. 197 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: And like you said, the ex lovers, I mean those 198 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: are more likely to be um the purp. And you 199 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: also you have to look at things like credit card receipts. 200 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to really cover all your bases. 201 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: After all of this, you know, we have to go 202 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: back to you know, there's all the technological advances, like 203 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: all of the recording videos, the surveillance cameras that you 204 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: have in a shopping center or in a store like Tangles, 205 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, trained on the cash register. But there's also 206 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: always have you ever driven Alan Duke joining me out 207 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: of l a Jackie Howard here in the studio, Alan, 208 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, when you drive behind a shopping strip mall 209 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: or a mall or a Kroger or whatever publics, there's 210 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: the back entry. There's always an alley way in the 211 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: back for deliveries. Employees park in the back. That's a 212 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: lot less noticeable than the overt front parking lot. Anything 213 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: can go down in that back alley. Yea. And I 214 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: think these days, though, there are a lot of cameras 215 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: back there because that's where things do go down. So 216 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: they watch it. Yeah, they watch it, but the camera 217 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: doesn't stop the crime. I think we can all agree 218 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: on that. Luckily, he's right, there are cameras back there. 219 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is throwing that wide net is 220 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: so important. But off surveillance cameras for just one moment 221 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: and back to regular detective work, the old fashioned way. 222 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: Take a listen to this about the ex boyfriend. Is 223 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: there any way your son could be involved with her disappearance? 224 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: So I had nothing to do with that girl's disappearance. 225 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: You know, he come out here Wednesday. He's been with 226 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: me all week. On Saturday when the girl was supposed 227 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: to be missing me and he was here at the 228 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: house all day long. He my son does Spenny many things, 229 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: but hard another woman killing my son wouldn't never heard 230 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: of woman. So you don't think he has she has 231 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: anything to do with her disappearance. He couldn't. He was 232 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: here with me. How can he? How can he be 233 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: a newly in here at the same time. It raises 234 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: lots of flags with what just happens. Her tone was 235 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: she was more frantic. I think it's because the kids 236 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: or they don't know. They're there for any other fights, 237 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: but this one, she just seemed more frantic. Listen to 238 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: Joeyne's mother. It motivates me, actually just motivates me. It 239 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: motivates me that the community just loves my daughter and 240 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: that they care about each other. They we're a small 241 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: knit community, but it's impacted by everybody. I mean, from 242 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: one parent to another. Can you imagine the imaginable, no, 243 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: just the smalll at closure would be having her home 244 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: and is that's the hardest part. It's not having her 245 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: own and I totally totally believe on my heart that 246 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: prayers sustain us, and the community has shown that I 247 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: just need my child home. I knew that posure is 248 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: there a complete closure? Now, there's never such a thing 249 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: as complete posure. We knew that how would a parent feel, 250 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: how would appear it feel, not being able to bring 251 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: your child home? That's all I asked for. Somebody knows something. 252 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: Somebody knows something. Let's talk about Jolene Jent. Jolene Jensen Cummings, 253 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: a young mom of three, goes missing. Last scene where 254 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: she's employed at tangles Here Salon. Where is she? That 255 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: was her mother who goes and visits a memorial every 256 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: single day to refresh it and look at all the 257 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: cards and the stuffed animals and the flowers, hoping against 258 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: hope to bring her daughter, Jolene home to her three children. 259 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: The only way we're going to do that is to 260 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: analyze what we know her suv. Jolne's SUV was found 261 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: abandoned outside of home depot. Surveillance video has just emerged. Listen. 262 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: We found some camera footage that showed Joline's vehicle being 263 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: parked around one am Sunday morning. The video showed the 264 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: driver sit there for a few minutes and then get out. 265 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: We were hoping to see Joline get out of that vehicle. 266 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: But who do you think it was the tangles hairstylus 267 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: who was supposed to the last person to see. Well, 268 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: there you have it to Cheryl McCollum. With a cold 269 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: case research institute, we can run down every guy that 270 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: came in the salon, every ex boyfriend that ever had 271 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: a spat with her. But the video doesn't lie, Ryl. 272 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: What is the coworker with eighteen alias is doing at 273 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: her suv at one o'clock in the morning? I mean, 274 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: how could you put an innocent face on that? You can't? 275 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: And they think the thing that sticks out the most 276 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: for me is the distance um for where she was 277 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: last seen to where her car was found. And they think, 278 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: here's the reality, where she was last seen at five 279 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: pm and where the car was found at home depot 280 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: is two miles apart. That's a ten minute drop. But 281 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: that person had eight hours with this victim to do 282 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: whatever occurred in that car before they ditched it, eight 283 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: hours to drive her somewhere, eight hours to harm her, 284 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: eight hours to hide her and drive back in Dix 285 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: that vehicle at one a m. You know what, I 286 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: was thinking along a different avenue altogether, But saying that, 287 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. You know, when I hear about missing children, 288 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: I think of the time they go missing versus the 289 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: time that they reported missing, versus the time police are 290 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: mobilized and start looking. And I multiplied times sixty miles, 291 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: and that's how far away they could have gotten, to 292 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: Lee Egan. These two women, were they on a friendly basis? 293 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: What do we know about them? Were they working the 294 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: same shift at when she goes missing? Was their animosity? 295 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: Did they have an argument that day? And if so 296 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: over what? What do we know? Lee? They were not 297 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: on a friendly basis. They were very a lot of 298 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: animosity between them for some reason. From what her co 299 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: worker said is Kessler had a problem with Joline, but 300 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: they did not know why. She just refused to help her. 301 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: She just snubbed her every chance she got, and it 302 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: was to the point where it was uncomfortable inside the salon. 303 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: It made things very tense. But I mean it's tense 304 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: enough to commit a murder. This this is what I 305 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: know about this woman, Uh, Kimberly Kessler. She is originally 306 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: from Butler, Pennsylvania, and she had been using a fake 307 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: social Security number. Now that's another thing I don't get 308 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: to Dr Daniel bober Or, forensic psychiatrist. You know, when 309 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: I go to if I write a check at the 310 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: grocery store, I gotta get show a credit card, I 311 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: gotta show an I D. I mean, they look you 312 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: up and down, and I'm surprised. I don't take a fingerprint. 313 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: How does this woman get ahold up a fake social 314 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: Security number? You would think, Nancy, that everything would not 315 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: match up. But you know, when you go to this 316 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: store and you present your credit card and your driver's license, 317 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: you know you don't necessarily have to present your social 318 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: Security number. It would probably only come up under certain instances. 319 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: And again, if you tried to assume someone else's identity, 320 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: not all your documentation would be consistent. So it is 321 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: quite puzzling. Yeah, it's puzzling. All right. This is what 322 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: else we know. Apparently as soon as Joe Lingo is missing, 323 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: she sctattles what do we know about that? Lee Egan 324 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com reporter where was Kessler ultimately located? 325 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: Once they see the video we just talked about, where 326 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: do they find Kessler. They found her sleeping in her 327 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: own car at a rest area off the interstate. Wait 328 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: a minute, Lea, and there's more to it than that. 329 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: Just being asleep at a rest stop means nothing to me. 330 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: That's not anything even remotely unusual. But what I find 331 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: very unusually Egan is that she has part her black 332 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: key a soul between two semi trucks and a rest 333 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: stop along St. John's County to hide it. To hide it, 334 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be spotted. Now to me, that's significant. 335 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: Cheryl mccollumway in no question. When people go to a 336 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: rest stop, they usually park as close to the building 337 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: as they can because they have to go to the restaurant. 338 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: The semi trucks, as y'all know, are way off in 339 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: the distance. So not only is she as far from 340 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: the building as she can get, she's wedged herself between 341 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: two semi trucks so people cannot see her car and 342 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: or tack. Another thing, we know that she was taken 343 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: in on what was the initial charge Lee Egan okay 344 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: for using for having Joelene's SUV without her permission, But 345 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: then the story gets even more bizarre when she stages 346 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: a hunger strike. Yes, she stages a hunger strike, okay, 347 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: behind bars. Why Cheryl McCollum does this woman stage a 348 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: hunger strike? Two reasons. She thinks she's gonna gain sympathy 349 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: from people, and the second reason is she wants to 350 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: be moved to a medical lord because it's easier to 351 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: do time with nurses than in the sale with guards. Guys, 352 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: we are talking about the disappearance of a gorgeous young 353 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: mom of three who worked at tangles Here Salon and 354 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: as of right now, she still has not been located. 355 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: But it looks bad. Take a listen to what her 356 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: mother says. We will we will win this, I know 357 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: we will. Justice will be served and my daughter will 358 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: be found. It's sath straight too, you know, because they're 359 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: not talking at all, you know, saying anything. It's okay 360 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: because the truth will come out. She got caught. She 361 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: got caught, and I met her, My granddaughter met her. 362 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: That's the hardest part. How can somebody is so cold 363 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: and it's a long here. Yes, yeah, faith sustains us 364 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: and faith will get us to this. Her mother not 365 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: giving up hope. She's not the only one looking for Jolene. Uh. 366 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: The entire community has joined together and in the last 367 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: hours have been out searching, holding on to hope. Friends, family, 368 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: relatives of volunteers of the missing mom of three were 369 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: back out searching in the last hours and their search 370 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: focused a round a racetrack gas station on State Road 371 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: two hundred in Yui. Interesting. Why are they focusing on 372 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: the area around the racetrack, Lee Egan, I believe that 373 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: the gas station where she was last seen, um Kessler 374 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: was last seen. I think that she went and got 375 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: a taxi cap from that gas station. Okay, Remember Kessler 376 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: is the coworker, not the missing mom Jolene. Now again, 377 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: she has not been charged in any way in Jolene's disappearance. 378 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: She still is behind bars, however, on grand theft auto okay, 379 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: for using Joelyne's car without her permission. I'm looking now 380 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: at video and a feed of volunteers beating through the 381 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: thick Florida brush. I don't even see how they can 382 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: get through it looking for joe Lene. Now, according to 383 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: the Sheriff's office, in the meantime, this woman, Kimberly Kessler, 384 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: art's a hunger strike. Now. She started the hunger strike 385 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: after she reads a story about the Sheriff Bill Leeper's 386 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: announcement that she Kessler had lived in thirty three cities 387 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: and fourteen states under at least seventeen names, all just 388 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: since nineteen nine six. Now, there was a reason the 389 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: sheriff did that, Dr Daniel Boboard, there's a reason he 390 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: put out that information. Why to inform people, to let 391 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: the public know what's going on. I'll tell you why 392 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: I did it. He did it because she's rendered rooms 393 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: from people, She's had other jobs that we don't know 394 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: anything about. It. Quite possibly there are other victims out there, 395 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: either of identity, theft or Investigators have received dozens of 396 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: tips from the public through crime Stoppers, none of them 397 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: have led them to Joe Langence and Cummings. Yet the 398 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: reward has now been increased to four thousand dollars from 399 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: information leading to an arrest in the case. Let me 400 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: just give you that number now one eight six six 401 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: eight four or five tips one eight six six eight 402 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: four or five tips, Or you can go on to 403 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: F Frank c cat crime stoppers dot com, FC crime 404 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: stoppers dot com. What a tangled web that has been woven, 405 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: According to Sheriff Bill Leaper, investigators have uncovered a lot 406 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: of evidence connected to the coworker also known as Jennifer Cybert. 407 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: For instance, what have they collected other than the alias 408 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: is league and they will not tell us. They may 409 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: not be telling you, but some of what we have 410 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: learned is that she also faces a federal charge of 411 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: possession of a counterfeit passport. Cheryl McCullum Nancy. Again, it 412 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: could be a situation to where some of these jobs 413 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: require a driver's license or another photo I D or 414 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: a pathport. She could have used that to get jobs. 415 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: She could have used it because her plan was at 416 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: some point to flee. Now listen to what her and 417 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Kimberly Kessler's own family says, they say 418 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: they haven't heard from Cybert. Who is Kimberly Kessler the 419 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: co worker in fourteen years that her parents reported her 420 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: missing July two thousand four while they were living in 421 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: Butler County, Pennsylvania. The sister says, quote, I don't know 422 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: what's going on. I feel like I don't even know her. 423 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: She's basically a stranger to me. The sister goes on 424 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: to say the families in shop and needs air to breathe, 425 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: and the whole situation has been difficult, difficult for them. 426 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: What about for the missing victim? Now at some point 427 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: we know and Dr bober you're the psychiatrist, I need 428 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: you to weigh in on this. At Kimberly Kessler actually 429 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: assumed the identity of a thirteen year old girl who 430 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: was killed in a car crash overseas and later buried 431 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. We've learned that from Nassau County Sheriff Bill Leeper. Well, 432 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: using a little girl, a dead little girl's name and 433 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: assuming her identity. Dr Daniel Bobert, that is just rob 434 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: that's just being a grave robber. Obviously, assuming someone's identity, 435 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: you're not trying to hide the person you are. You're 436 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: trying to hide the person you were. But assuming the 437 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: identity of a thirteen year old girl, uh clearly shows 438 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: that this person has absolutely no remorse or conscience that 439 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: will go to any length to conceal their identity. To 440 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: Alan Deep joining us, what are the locations that the 441 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: record show where Cybered has lived, the different cities and states. 442 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: It's a very impressive tour of Florida. St. Augustine, St. 443 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: Augustine Beach, Petersburg, Tallahassee, then into Kansas Mission, Overland Park, 444 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: Shawny Mission, Kansas. She went to Minnesota and Rochester and 445 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: one of my favorite cities, Nashville, Tennessee. You know. Also, 446 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: we've learned that she had a license with the state 447 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: of Florida to be cosmetologists and that was registered to Tampa, 448 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: which I don't think was on your list, Alan Duke. 449 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: Now we're trying to get records on her from the FBI, 450 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: the d o J, and the Pennsylvania State Police. Apparently 451 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: the FBI is building its own case against her and 452 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: sending help to Nassau County detectives. But still we don't 453 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: know where is Joe Lene, but we fear the worst. Listen, 454 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: thank you for keeping her name out there, but I 455 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: also asked that you give us some privacy. It's been 456 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: a very typical time. The majority of you have been 457 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: very cordial and very helpful. Thank you. As we grow, 458 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: does a draw close to day nine that I reported 459 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: my daughter missing. Sunday was a special day, not only 460 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: for Mother's Day, but it was her birthday. She was 461 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: born on Mother's Day. God gave me this special blessing 462 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: after my firstborn infant son, Richard, was buried. We are 463 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: all heartbroken. Jolanne's three children, her stepdad, her sisters, her brother, 464 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: several aunts, uncles, cousins, myself, and all the extended family 465 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: and friends. I want to sincerely thank Sheriff phill Ever 466 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: and Director Henderson and the rest of the staff of 467 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: the c I D Unit and Donna Thurston and members 468 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: of NCSO who have been working night and day to 469 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: bring my daughter home, who unfortunately still has not been located. 470 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: My daughter was a loving mother to her children, her children, 471 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: for her life. I need you, the news, the public 472 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: to help CIST, the law enforcement agencies to be their ears, 473 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: to be their eyes. Someone out there, someone out there, 474 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: knows something. I thank you. I thank you as a 475 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: mother to please keep coming forward with any information that 476 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: you have, no matter how small, help with any possibilities 477 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: they could help locate my daughter, for her my three 478 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: grandchildren who missed her so much. We want closure. I 479 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: just can't imagine too Cheryl McCollum, the hatred, the bitterness, 480 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: the drama within that tangled here salon that leads to 481 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: Sheriff's believing Jolene, the mother of three little children, is dead. 482 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: Over what could it possibly be. There's no talent, Nancy. 483 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: It could be something that totally came from the suspect 484 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: in this case, that she envisioned the dreamed up or 485 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: was her own madness. But whatever was in that s 486 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: UV was clear enough to law enforcement that her mom 487 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: has accepted it. If you listen to the press conference, 488 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: her mama says she was a loving mother. She was. 489 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: She refers to her in past ten, which tells me 490 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: her mother has it accept it that she's no longer 491 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: a love Another disturbing fact, Sheryl McCullum is the physical evidence. 492 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: What is it? If you look at her mud shot, 493 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: she clearly has a scratch on her face, and law 494 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: enforceman is said suspect ms case also had scratches on 495 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: her hands, which to me are indicative of Jolene literally 496 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: fighting for her life. You know, let's just think about 497 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: this one moment. Lee Egan, Daniel, Dr. Daniel Bober and 498 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: Sheryl McCullum. Last scene in the hair salon? Okay, did 499 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: she ever make it out of the hair salon? Was 500 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: she killed or kidnapped in her SUV? Somehow? The coworker 501 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: Cybert Kimberly Kessler ended up in her SUV. So, analyzing 502 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: what we know, where, do you think the primary crime 503 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: scene is Cheryl McCullum, the victim The s u V explained, 504 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: I believe whatever is in that car, law enforcement had 505 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: enough to believe she's no longer living, which tells me 506 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: there was enough blood in it, um, some type of restraints, 507 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: maybe scissors from the hair saline. There's something in there. 508 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: Did not only the law enforcement accept John leaves up 509 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: alive anymore? So did her family as far as Kimberly 510 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: Kessler a k a. Jennifer Cybert. In the last hours, 511 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: she has called off her hunger strike and she's eating again. 512 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: She is the prime sussect and the disappearance of a 513 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: female coworker, Nassau County mother, Jolene Cummings. Now, why is 514 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: she suddenly eating again? Not that I care whether she's eating, 515 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: Lee Egan, but doesn't have anything to do with the 516 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: finding Jolene, I don't think so. She just decided she 517 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: wanted to eat again. It could be because they moved 518 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: her to a different jail that she didn't want to 519 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: be in. They moved her over to Duval County Jail 520 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: once she started eating again, they moved her back to 521 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,479 Speaker 1: Nassau County. I can't confirm that. That's really just a guess. 522 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: I think what you just said in a very very 523 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: circuitous way, as that she agreed to start eating again 524 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: if they would move her. Is that what you're getting, Cheryl. No, 525 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: they moved her back after she started eating, so strike, 526 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: I know, but I mean as part of a deal, 527 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: you start eating, we'll move you back. It could be, 528 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: but I think she got her hunger I don't think. Okay, 529 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: every time I've ever had somebody a claimed they were 530 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: having a hunger strike behind bars, I found out they 531 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: were secretly getting crackers and whatever they could from. You know, yeah, yeah, 532 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: they were totally eating the whole time. They never lost 533 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: a pound. Here we go with another failed hunger strike. 534 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: To Hey, with her and her hunger strike and sneaking 535 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: crack is or whatever she's doing. All I care about 536 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: is finding Joe Lene. Listen to her mother begging for 537 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: your help. Somebody knows something. Somebody knows something. 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His mommy's 564 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: remains are found buried in a plastic bag on an 565 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: upstate New York farm. But where is Higgy? Little Higgy, 566 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: fourteen months old Owen Hidalgo Calderon is missing. Out to 567 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: John Limeley, Crime Stories dot Com investigative reporter, John, what 568 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: can you tell me, Nancy? The relatives of Selena Hildalgo 569 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: Calderon and that fourteen month old son Owen called police 570 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: to say that they had not seen either one of 571 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: them in quite some time, and they were very worried, 572 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: as you can imagine. Also missing was Selena's boyfriend, Edward Reyes. 573 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: The couple had been living together in So Does, New York, 574 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: about midway between Rochester and Syracuse, working on an apple orchard. 575 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: Uh families were left scratching their heads. They couldn't figure 576 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 1: out what might have happened. Guys, we were talking about 577 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: a missing little boy, just fourteen months old, Owen Hidalgo Calderon. 578 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: Higgy is missing his mother. A beautiful young lady, Selina Calderon, 579 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: has been found dead, her body buried near an apple 580 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: orchard in SODA's, New York, near where she worked. What 581 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: do we know? Police in western New York searching for 582 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: a fourteen month old boy following the discovery of his 583 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 1: mom's remains, and if you could see him, he has 584 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: absolutely gorgeous. An amber laret now issued for Higgy two 585 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: days after his mother, Selina's body is found, she was 586 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: in a plastic bag in the woods behind a SODA's 587 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: apple orchard. Cheryl McCollum with the Cold Case Research Institute, 588 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: that's got to be a treasure trove of of of evidence. 589 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: A plastic bag. Are you kidding me? It's gotta be 590 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: covered in dan A fingerprints. Oh, it's the money tree 591 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: for long Enforce at Nancy. But you know, sadly the 592 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: child was not with her, so that might tell them 593 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: they were killed separately at different times. And the child 594 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: could be somewhere completely different, not even in the woods. 595 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 1: Or the child could be alive and sold or given 596 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: away or dumped somewhere. Uh. Selena's body badly decomposed and 597 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: hidden between logs in the earth. The medical examiners a 598 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: matter of fact says that the body was such bad 599 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,959 Speaker 1: shape they're still trying to determine a cause of death 600 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: on the mother, Selena Calderon, but without the baby being 601 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: right there, Baby Higgy, where does that leave us? They 602 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: were last seen on a farm. Owen was absent at 603 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: daycare the following two days. Higgy was then reported missing 604 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: that Sunday by Selena's mom, who had not heard from 605 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: her in three days, which is highly, highly unusual. The 606 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 1: Amber Alert State's Higgy is fourteen months old, a boy, 607 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: brown hair, brown eyes, just to feet tall, weighing thirty pounds. 608 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: He is just a tiny, tiny baby boy. Listen to 609 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: what police are saying. People try to apply the presumption 610 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: of innocence for this matter, even though it's very emotional 611 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: for everyone involved. The one the one qualifier that we 612 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: didn't meet. We can't confirm if this is introduction, and 613 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: we will continue to run to parallel investigations, the search 614 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: for Owen and also our criminal investigation on the homicide 615 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: of Selena. If you were a victim, we're going to 616 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: work hard to protect you, to bring justice to you. 617 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: And if you're about perpetrator, we're gonna haunt you down. 618 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: Let's first look at the boyfriend, um Everardo Race. Now, 619 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: what can you tell me? About surveillance video of him. 620 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Evardo. This is while that search for 621 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: the mother and child was underway, Officers out of the 622 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: blue get a tip from a landowner. Uh near the 623 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 1: orchard where Calderone Reyes we're working. 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