WEBVTT - Emmanuelle Chriqui

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<v Speaker 1>For the longest time. I sort of just it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>click in my brain that, oh, yeah, I do comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to me, I just didn't do comedy. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>not not funny, like not at all, Like that's why

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<v Speaker 1>would I do comedy. I remember even saying, like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like I'd ever do an Outam Sandler film. Cut

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<v Speaker 1>to zone. Hi, I'm Emmanuel Shrieky, and I am an

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<v Speaker 1>actress that loves to travel the world. Hello, gentle listeners

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<v Speaker 1>from far and wide, Welcome to a new episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Off the Beat. I am, as always your host, Brian Baumgartner,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you just heard, today, we're gonna be joined

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<v Speaker 1>by one of my favorites, the amazing Emmanuel Shrieky. You

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<v Speaker 1>might know her as Sloan from Entourage. She also played

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<v Speaker 1>Claire Bonner in snow Day and now she's starring as

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<v Speaker 1>Lana Lang in the hit TV show Superman. And Lois

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<v Speaker 1>from rom Coms to video games and now the Arrow Verse. Emmanuel,

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<v Speaker 1>she has truly done it all, and to think it

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<v Speaker 1>all started with a McDonald's commercial at age ten. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the acting bug got her very early on. Look, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to tell you everything. She's done, because she

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<v Speaker 1>is here to do that herself. Let's dive right in,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we. Here she is Emmanuel, Shrieky, bubble and squeak.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, Bubble, squeak, bubble and squeaker. Cook it

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<v Speaker 1>every month left from the people. What's up? Hello? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm so good? How are you? I'm fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming to talk to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my pleasure of course. Where are you at my

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<v Speaker 1>house in West Hollywood? You're in You're in l A. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you travel around all the time, constantly working

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<v Speaker 1>and on the road. Well, welcome back home to Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Let me tell you it's so. I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>a hiatus right now and it is so good to

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<v Speaker 1>be back in l A for the summer. It's been amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Where where do you film Superman? Lois? We shoot the

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<v Speaker 1>show in Vancouver? All right? Your home, your homeland, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>my homeland, but this is my home here. But it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same time zone. It's an easy flight, right.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, I want to talk to you about

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<v Speaker 1>Superman and Lois and a little bit. First. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to start by going back to your your homeland. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you grew up outside of Toronto, is that right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that I've talked to anyone else that

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<v Speaker 1>this is true of You grew up in an Orthodox

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish household, is that right? Yeah? Modern Orthodox, like you weren't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't. When I say, I think, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I should come up with a different terminology. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Orthodox in the sense that like we did shabbut

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<v Speaker 1>every Friday, and we were kosher at home, milk and meat,

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<v Speaker 1>like separate sinks, you know, dishes um all the high

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<v Speaker 1>holiday but like day to day was normal. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>really just the Shabbat and the big holidays. But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean keeping a kosher kitchen at home, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. That's a thing. That's a thing, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When I had friends over, I had to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't use that sponge. Yeah no, I know, Well that

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<v Speaker 1>that's so interesting. I mean, to come out of that

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<v Speaker 1>type of environment and that type of household. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>was told your first at least paid acting job was

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<v Speaker 1>in a McDonald's commercial. Is that? Now? This is my guest,

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<v Speaker 1>as you probably weren't eating McDonald's, right, maybe the fish?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh was that fine? Yeah? Like that's the thing. We

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<v Speaker 1>would go out to dinner, you know, It's just nothing

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<v Speaker 1>was allowed to eating the house. That was the okay stipulation. Yeah, okay. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you started you started acting young? Now were you instantly

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<v Speaker 1>Well how did you start acting? What was your first experience?

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<v Speaker 1>My first experience was doing community theater in Unionville where

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<v Speaker 1>I lived. UM. We had was called the Unionville Theater Company.

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<v Speaker 1>And my classmate at school had said, you know, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to audition for my dad's play because his

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<v Speaker 1>dad ran the theater company. And I auditioned for the

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<v Speaker 1>role of the baby ghost in this Canadian play called

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to the Wind. And it was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a full on theater experience at seven years old, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was in like, I was like, this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I this is what I want to do at age

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<v Speaker 1>seven as baby ghosts who were like this, this is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it theater specifically or was it was it being

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<v Speaker 1>on stage act theater? That's that's like my roots. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you know the town that I lived in, Unionville,

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<v Speaker 1>we um at the time, like when it was time

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<v Speaker 1>to start high school. Uh, they were building a high

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<v Speaker 1>school for the performing arts, and they had an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>theater program. So you know it was it was like

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<v Speaker 1>I was all in. I was like I had to

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<v Speaker 1>audition and I had to get in. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what I would have done if I never

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<v Speaker 1>got accepted. How far How far were you from Toronto?

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<v Speaker 1>Like minute drive outside the city? Okay? And so you

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<v Speaker 1>started because I mentioned the McDonald's commercial, you started? What

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<v Speaker 1>did you get an agent or you started like in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of commercial So what happened was that, um, during

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<v Speaker 1>high school in the theater program in Canada, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a levision station called y TV, which is like the

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent of Nickelodeon, will say, and they were having a

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<v Speaker 1>writing competition and the winner of the writing competition would

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<v Speaker 1>have their show produced and they shows our school as

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<v Speaker 1>as the location, just because it was a new, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very beautiful kind of nine o two one oh looking

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<v Speaker 1>high school and they used are they auditioned our theater department.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was sort of like my foray into film

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<v Speaker 1>and television. And from that I got an agent and

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<v Speaker 1>then sort of started, you know, doing commercials and one

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<v Speaker 1>liners and two liners and you know, a week here

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<v Speaker 1>guests are there. Right. So in your early experience on

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<v Speaker 1>on camera, how for you was that different than doing

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<v Speaker 1>work in the theater. Were you still interested more in theater,

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<v Speaker 1>or did you start to really feel like film and

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<v Speaker 1>tell where you wanted to move. You know, it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I made that decision sort of later

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<v Speaker 1>because when I started in film and television, I was

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<v Speaker 1>still in high school and you know, learning everything from

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<v Speaker 1>Stanislavski and Udahogen and all the method acting and all

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<v Speaker 1>the things, and so it was just sort of something

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<v Speaker 1>that I was doing parallel to going to school. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when I went to college for a year and

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<v Speaker 1>I majored in another theater program, and it was at

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<v Speaker 1>that point that it felt a little bit redundant, like really,

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<v Speaker 1>my high school had such an amazing program, And at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, sort of later on, I really saw that

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<v Speaker 1>I actually wanted a career in film versus theater. And

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<v Speaker 1>so then I think, just you know, I have intense

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<v Speaker 1>stage fright, really, I know, it's it gets crazy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like really intense still, and yeah, I get really nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>like like sick, Like I'm like I literally am like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, why am I doing this? This is

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<v Speaker 1>a nightmare? Why, you know. And then of course, once

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<v Speaker 1>you're in it and the magic takes over. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the best thing after ever. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>like a big thing for me, And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt that. I think my inspiration really came

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<v Speaker 1>from so many movies that I had watched growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I just had this dream that I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to be a part of that. That way,

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<v Speaker 1>I had like a very big influence on me. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just sort of pursued it and it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to have been the way to go. Yeah, it's fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>to me because my experience was was just so different.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I and now, you know, you hear so much

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<v Speaker 1>about Atlanta. I grew up in Atlanta, and there's so

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<v Speaker 1>atta but there you go there and there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>work happening. You know, you can't be an actor now

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<v Speaker 1>and not not work in Atlanta, And there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>stuff happening there At the time, either, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I know there was less, but it wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>a part of my consciousness film and television or being

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<v Speaker 1>on film or like getting an agent like and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what that says about me or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it was it was a different time but for

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<v Speaker 1>me it was just theater was like, oh no, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be an actor, and I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a theater actor. And that was that was for a

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<v Speaker 1>really long time. Actually, um so yes, fascinating to me

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to people whose experience started at least early

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<v Speaker 1>on and yeah, I mean McDonald's commercial here and a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of lines there or whatever, but having that experience

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<v Speaker 1>of being on film, on being on a set, which

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<v Speaker 1>is such a different experience. I mean, you're fundamentally you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing. You're acting, you're playing a character,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that character is or does, but the experience of

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<v Speaker 1>creation is so different. Beyond yeah, I think you know that, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>To your point was that, like you're right nowadays to

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<v Speaker 1>be in film and television, it's virtually unheard of to

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<v Speaker 1>not end up in Atlanta. But I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>happened fairly recently. Like I would say that the industry

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<v Speaker 1>exploded in Atlanta, what within the last ten years maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whereas like Toronto was always a place where

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<v Speaker 1>there was a pretty thriving film and television community. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just is exposure, like I think, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like and also in my theater program.

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<v Speaker 1>There were kids, you know, who were on Degrassi Junior

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<v Speaker 1>High So it was in my consciousness already. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think if I had grown up like you, I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have stuck in theater far longer until maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity arose. You know. Yeah, how were your were your parents?

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<v Speaker 1>Were they supportive? I mean obviously at your ten they

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<v Speaker 1>have to drive you or whatever. Yeah, were they support

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<v Speaker 1>him of the experience and obviously beyond, Like, I am

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<v Speaker 1>so lucky I had the support of my entire family.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my parents were supportive, my older brother and

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<v Speaker 1>my older sister, like everybody sort of felt like that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I should be doing. Like I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just because I was sort of one of these youngsters

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<v Speaker 1>that was. I was really into music and dancing and

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment of all kinds. And I was a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a ham as a kid. I became a lot shyer

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<v Speaker 1>though older I got, but like as a little little one,

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<v Speaker 1>I was really I loved just performing for people. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I'm so lucky that I had the

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<v Speaker 1>support of my family, you know, fairly consistently. That's great,

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<v Speaker 1>did you sing? I thought I couldn't think that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I always say that's what I because I mean people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, oh, did you do musicals and stuff? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yep, kind but like, looking back, I

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<v Speaker 1>was very very clearly talk singing like I could. I could,

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<v Speaker 1>I could talk sing on the rhythm and as long

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<v Speaker 1>as there was some comedy role involved that I could,

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<v Speaker 1>I could crush that pretty good. But looking back is like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't really, I couldn't really think I had to

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<v Speaker 1>sing from my audition for theater school for college, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like I did it, but I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like and not to basically be like, well, she can

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<v Speaker 1>hold the tune, you know. But it's so it's so

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<v Speaker 1>crazy because I've often thought about how, like even today,

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<v Speaker 1>like how I would actually love to take the singing

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<v Speaker 1>classes because similar to like my stage fright, like I

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<v Speaker 1>think the two are linked, Like I feel I know

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<v Speaker 1>that I can hold the tune, but I am so stuck,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just can't let go. I get so freaked

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<v Speaker 1>out and I just don't do it. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like if I can get over that hump, it could

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<v Speaker 1>probably free me up as a performer just all around.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's it's a bit of a fear you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about your stage fright just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more because I didn't know this is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it about being in front of people. I think

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<v Speaker 1>like stage fright is a combination of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the actor's nightmare of being like out there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you can't call cut and like but if you forget

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<v Speaker 1>your lines what you want to I think wrong. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all the things, like all the narratives that go in

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<v Speaker 1>your head that are completely fear base, that like paralyzed me. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but just a little like I mean, I managed to

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<v Speaker 1>get through it, but man, it's pretty intense. Yeah I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say I didn't have like traditional stage front.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, of course I have had those nightmares. Those

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<v Speaker 1>nightmares continue to today. And for those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>are listening who don't know what we're talking about, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a very specific actor's nightmare where you are sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>but suddenly right. I mean, it could be any number

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<v Speaker 1>of things, like you're about to get on stage and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know where your costume is or your wardrobe,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're on stage and you don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to say and everyone is looking at you, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that that anxiety dream that exists. I think I had

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<v Speaker 1>it more on live shows. I had it for a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think for me it was about there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a script, right, but and somehow it was different than

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<v Speaker 1>improv because I feel like an improv you sort of

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<v Speaker 1>find your time to jump in, and you jump in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is more like someone is asking you questions and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not exactly clear what those questions are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be or where it's going to leave. And I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you a quick story. I was still getting this is

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<v Speaker 1>a this is a long time ago now, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was on a late night television show. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to mention the name of it is since it does

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<v Speaker 1>not exist. And I am there's a live studio audience

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<v Speaker 1>and it's live late night and I'm in the chair

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<v Speaker 1>and the host says to me, so we have a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise for you. You don't know what it is, right,

0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:06.280
<v Speaker 1>And I said no, and he said yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>makes this very big deal about the fact that this

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<v Speaker 1>is truly a surprise. This isn't a TV surprise, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you really don't know what it is. And I felt

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<v Speaker 1>my face turn hot and begin to sweat, like uncontrollable

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<v Speaker 1>because I truly don't know what it was. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny that it's this because we were just discussing it.

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<v Speaker 1>This was, by the way, this was not planned. They

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly start playing a video and the video is a

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<v Speaker 1>video of me in high school, singing in a tux,

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<v Speaker 1>singing in and this is kind of before you can

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<v Speaker 1>find anything in the world online or whatever. And I

0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.800
<v Speaker 1>had not seen this video. I don't think ever. I mean,

0:17:54.880 --> 0:18:00.080
<v Speaker 1>it was like VHS recorded video of me singing to

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<v Speaker 1>dream the impossible dream on video, and I'm like, and

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of got up and started saying on the

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<v Speaker 1>show like at the end, because I was like, I

0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.320
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what to do. I don't even know

0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.639
<v Speaker 1>what to do. And that probably damaged me for a while,

0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.040
<v Speaker 1>just that experience of not it actually coming out, but

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<v Speaker 1>just saying like, we're going to surprise you and you

0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:23.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is in front of all of

0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:28.159
<v Speaker 1>these people. That was my That was my nightmare. Hell, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're personal that was my personal health. Yeah, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I also had um like the true it

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<v Speaker 1>was my nightmare come true. But ironically it wasn't on stage.

0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.320
<v Speaker 1>It was on a television show that I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years back called Murder in the first Yes,

0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I was playing this gang unit cop and for a

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<v Speaker 1>week I had been learning like pages and pages of

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<v Speaker 1>dial log and I had it down. And then the

0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:09.200
<v Speaker 1>night before the writer sends me new scenes. But like

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<v Speaker 1>Brian brand New, Okay, now here's what I need to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. This is everybody who knows me knows this.

0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I do not have a photographic memory, and I need

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<v Speaker 1>time to work on my ship, like for real, I

0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.560
<v Speaker 1>mean Superman and Lois knows that. Every show I work

0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.600
<v Speaker 1>on knows that. That's just how I roll, It's how

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<v Speaker 1>my brain works. So the night before I am flicking out,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the first time in my life, I took

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<v Speaker 1>like half an adderall and I was like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to learn this, I have to do this. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>stressed to the max, anxious, barely slept. Get to set.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, I am beside myself and I go

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<v Speaker 1>to the director on She's like the loveliest woman, Alesan Andrews.

0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.840
<v Speaker 1>She was directing our episode, and I'm like, Alison, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to tell you. They changed all my stuff at

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<v Speaker 1>the very last minute, And like I don't learn stuff quickly,

0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.320
<v Speaker 1>but I've got certainly done my best. I just want

0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you to know that. She's like, no problem, it's all good.

0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, awesome, we'll probably just you know, do

0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:26.720
<v Speaker 1>it in snippets whatever. I get to set and she

0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:34.159
<v Speaker 1>says to me, sweetheart, it's a walking talk, one shot,

0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 1>walking talk instant, like you don't even know. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like there. I mean I think of maybe seven or

0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:51.920
<v Speaker 1>eight takes. I think I got it once. Honest to god,

0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I got it once, and I got it because like

0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.640
<v Speaker 1>after the fifth or sixth take, I'm like in the back,

0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 1>we're like shooting in this warehouse. Um my co star

0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Kathleen Roberts, and she was like, you've got this. I

0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:08.679
<v Speaker 1>heard you in the trailer. You got this. I'm like panicking,

0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and I tears are streaming down my face and I'm

0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like before action, I like walked to the bathroom warehouse

0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and I literally pray to both my parents. They're both

0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:26.800
<v Speaker 1>passed away, and I'm like, well, Dad, if you could

0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:30.280
<v Speaker 1>hear me right now, I did you so bad. I

0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:34.080
<v Speaker 1>have to get through this and I would be cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow I did. However, Brian, after I had a meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with the with the writer with the creator of the show,

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, that was easily the most stressful

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<v Speaker 1>moment of my life. And I'll tell you I got

0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it just barely. Uh. I did not do my best work,

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<v Speaker 1>honest good, but it was a true after nightmare. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's off. You started with a lot of comedy and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of romantic comedy roles Detroit, Rock City, snow Day

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:35.720
<v Speaker 1>with the amazing Gene Smart Chevy, Adam and Eve. Uh

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't mess with the Zohan. Was there something specifically

0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that drew you to those type of rolls or those

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<v Speaker 1>type of roles just start finding you. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>just started finding me, you know, because for the longest time,

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of just it didn't click in my brain that,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I do comedy. Like to me, I just

0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:00.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't do comedy, and I gotten that funny like not

0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.360
<v Speaker 1>at all, Like that's why would I do comedy. I

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.199
<v Speaker 1>remember even saying like, it's not like I'd ever do

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 1>an Adam Sandler film. Cut to Zan. You know, I

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>remember a few years ago, Uh, I did Super Troopers too,

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and Jay chandrashekr you know, we we talked on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone and he's like he wants me for this part,

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, Jay, I don't honestly think that i'm

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>your person, Like I don't do comedy, and he was like,

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:38.679
<v Speaker 1>are you kidding. I was like, no, I'm not kidding.

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding at all. He's like, I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>did this thing and he jokes about it today. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Emmanuel is like the only actor that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever like spoken to on the phone that tried to

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>talk her way out of doing a part. And I

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:57.959
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh god, that's really messed up. Anyway, I

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 1>did it. I had the best time. So yeah, I

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 1>guess I do do comedy. Yes, you, of course you

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 1>do do comedy. You were then eventually cast in well,

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I would say, a very important obviously huge comedy Entourage.

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy when I looked back on and I was like,

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I think this is true? Is this really true? Two

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 1>thousand five, Entourage and The Office started at like exactly

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the same time. Oh, two crazy different shows, both successful

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>in their own way, but they started at the same time,

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>obviously on two different networks. Now you join Entourage in

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<v Speaker 1>the second season, obviously, as sloan, did you watch the

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 1>first season? Were you aware of it? Barely? I think

0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I've watched a couple of episodes just to know what

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I was going to go, do you know? Um? But no,

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I was. It wasn't even you know, it really popped.

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 1>By like third season, it really hit, but I think

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 1>like it was a little slow burned out the gate.

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<v Speaker 1>Second season it started to definitely get some momentum, and

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>by third season it was just like water cooler conversation, Right,

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>what was your experience of auditioning for the role of Sloan? Oh?

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>My god, it was so wild. First of all, it

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 1>was like a three episode arc. It's literally like just

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>three episodes. But apparently the story goes that they really

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 1>wanted to find ease new girlfriend, and you know, they

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:51.959
<v Speaker 1>had cast some wonderful ladies and for whatever reasons, it just,

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, never really worked out. And so when I

0:25:56.000 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>auditioned initially, it went really really well. And when I

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>got the call back, they had already like altered the

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>role to be like to basically insinuate that my father

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>was Malcolm McDowell and that my mother was Israeli, like

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>just to explain the coloring or whatever. And that's interesting.

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>And like Kevin Connolly had called me before the callback

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>because I think he just loved I didn't even know him.

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess he had seen the tapes or whatever and

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>really sort of gravitated towards my audition and he just

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>called me and he was like, do exactly what you did,

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Like that was great. And then we read together at

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the callback and in the very last hour there was

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>another actress that was like right like primed to get it,

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and I think, you know, Doug Ellen sort of fought

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.679
<v Speaker 1>hard for me and it went my way. And Kevin

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Connolly was the one who called me and offered me

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>the part, like he got permission to do that, so sweet,

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I know. And then and then like it was it's

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've talked about this so much. Is that

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Entourage was like the gift that keeps on giving, Like

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>it was the rest of this series plus a movie

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that started out as like a three episode ark, the

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 1>game Changer that one. How how long after the first

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>three did you know you were going to stick around?

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it just sort of kept happening incrementally, like

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>they just kept writing and writing, and then third season

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.959
<v Speaker 1>and fourth season, so it was like, you know, I

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 1>never was a regular on that show. I was always

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>a recurring because the regulars had, you know, the front

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>billing with all their names and the thing, and then

0:27:54.320 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>I ended up having that for the movie. What was

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>it like going back after so much time and doing

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the movie, I mean, aside from being fun and I'm

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>sure reuniting with all those guys again, do you feel

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 1>like you were different at that point, after so much

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:17.199
<v Speaker 1>time had passed from when you started so long before?

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Not at all, Like, honestly, not at all. I mean,

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>what five years had gone by and it felt as

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>though we picked up exactly where we left off. It

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 1>was wild. It didn't even feel like it had been

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>five years, you know. And the crazy part is that

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>still to this day, like when we all hang or

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>see each other, it's surreal to all of us that

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>it's been fifteen years since the beginning. Like wait, what right?

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't even make sense. I know you had a director,

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Julian Farrino, who directed, based on my research, a little

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>over a quarter of the episodes, you know, Julian came on.

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>He and I became fairly close. I would say, he

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:14.239
<v Speaker 1>started directing the office a few episodes and he and

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I would sit because I guess, and I guess I

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>still am I'm doing this. I'm just kind of a

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>nerd of the business. And we just kept start talking

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that these two shows were at the

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>time very big, very popular people were watching, and they

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>could not have been any more different different from from

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>each other. What do you think the success of Entourage was?

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you think was what gravitated people towards it? Gosh,

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>grand um. I think there's so many things. I mean,

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, and you can attest to this, I

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like people are fascinated with the business, right like

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>people who aren't in the business just sort of in

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the world at large. When you go to a dinner

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>party and you're like the only apt or, suddenly all

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>conversation is like pointed to you, and you're like, so

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>there is this real, like inherent fascination curiosity. And I

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>think that that had a real big appeal, especially because

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>we were really exploring this sort of funny but also

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>gnarly underbelly of what is Hollywood, you know, And and

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it was controversial, and it was toted as a misogynistic

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and it was all of these things. But like it

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, but what do you think the business is?

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Tree me too? What do you think this fucking business

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>was you know, like when Doug was writing that stuff

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of that was not out of like his imagination. And

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I think people were floored by that. I think that

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>had a big part to do with it. What do

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you think that makes so much sense? No? That, I mean,

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that makes so much sense. I mean I

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>think that for me, what was so interesting about the

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>two shows, you know, being popular and again like basically

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>being created and happening at the same time at the

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>same time, there was a sexy escapism aspect of Entourage

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and kind of more specifically like what what you're talking

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>about about those dinner party conversations when you're there and

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>people want to know and they want to hear, and

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>to a large degree, um it. I think there was

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of controversy about Entourage because of the things

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that you were talking about. It generated a ton of discussion.

0:31:56.160 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>But I think also like that, I don't know, sexy

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>people and private planes and you know, like that whole

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of sexy escapism. And what's fascinating to me is

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>we were just the opposite, right Like as a show

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>we were we could not have been any I mean,

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>we were literally selling paper in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and that

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and that was what Julian and I would we were talking,

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were both happening when he was there,

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and it was like, he's directing our show in the

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>next week, He's going to wherever you guys on location

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And I was like, well, this is just

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>so interesting to me that the two shows exist at

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>exactly the same time in the same place, and this

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>is and and this is what the shows are exploring,

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>and these are the variety of ways that people can

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>be entertained and and want to watch. I feel like that,

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just fascinating. Oh my gosh. I agree with you.

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I do. I mean, which just goes to

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>show you there's a there's a room for everything. At

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the same time, what do you most when you think

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>back on that experience and, as you said, the gift

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that keeps on giving. What are you most proud of

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>yourself and your experience, either of the show or your

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>role on the show or what you did. Did anything

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:27.719
<v Speaker 1>come to mind? Yeah? I mean, god, that's such a

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>good question. You know. I don't throw all the entourage

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>talk that I've done over the years. I don't think

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>that anybody's ever asked me that. I think it was

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>just a really it was interesting to play a role

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that It's not like I had that much screen time,

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was like it was the Boys Show,

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>but we created I guess these characters that really hit

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a chord and it's sort of I guess it just

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 1>found it like just a huge honor and compliment that

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>people really just like resonated to this woman and that

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>like for a show like that, Sloan was known as

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>this sort of like grounded, smart, sort of sophisticated and saucy,

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>but like that it wasn't just this like overly sexified

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>role like that. Part of her appeal was more than that.

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>And it was a testament to two Doug writing that

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of woman. Like he was very protective of Sloan. So,

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess looking back, like if I were

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>to look back on my career, I would be like, Wow,

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 1>I guess I am really proud of that. You know,

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:51.879
<v Speaker 1>to have a character that people just really wanted to

0:34:51.920 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 1>get to know, there's a massive compliment. You think you're

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.879
<v Speaker 1>not a comedy person, you certainly are. You certainly are.

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>But after Entourage and I'm more interested in whether this

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>was intentional or again, if this just kind of happened

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you started working doing a lot of crime thriller, dark action,

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>fully intentional? It was? It was was it murder in

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:45.439
<v Speaker 1>the First Cleaners? Mentally? Yes, oh yeah, you just wanted

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>something different. I just wanted to well, you know, okay,

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, like they they maybe in for this day,

0:35:56.239 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>like to put us in a box. Right, You're that

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of performer. This is what you do. You look

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that way, you have this kind of voice or charm

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.959
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. This is what you do. And coming from

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:16.240
<v Speaker 1>the theater, it's like, no, that's not what I do.

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:21.399
<v Speaker 1>That's easy. I get to basically be me and get

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to say some great dialogue. But like, this is what

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I do, right, So it was it was very intentional

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>to to mix it up and to just try to

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>sink my teeth into stuff that I wouldn't otherwise necessarily

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>be thought of. Great. Emmanuel, you and I are the same.

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. That's like I can't even say that,

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>but you know it's I mean, it's exactly the same.

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 1>When the Office was over, and it's funny, I was

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>just at an event with a lot of Office fans

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>and a few people brought up actually, like you know,

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I did Law and Order SVU and minds. People bring

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:08.280
<v Speaker 1>up criminal minds all the time and they're like, that's

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>not you. What are you know that you were good

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>but that's not or I'll get an interview and they'll

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>start talking about my background in comedy and I'm not

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 1>being snarky, I'm like, I actually don't have one. I

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't do improv. That wasn't my thing. Like I was

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>traveling around the country playing horrible people, like trying to

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>find some bit of humanity in rapists and abusers and

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>all of them. That's much more what I do. But

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it's fascinating that we both decided. I'm I'm really glad

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to hear that that it was an intentional choice by you.

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's funny, Brian, that's actually very funny.

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Like you're right, I do. I completely get it. And

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I think too, is that you know, there is something

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>to be said though for really genius casting, because you know,

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 1>a show like The Office worked because it was brilliantly cast.

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Now the argument is, okay, but are you casting the

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:20.839
<v Speaker 1>person or are you casting based on essence? And I

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:25.879
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's kind of like it's a little it's

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 1>a little of like, of course, what you bring to it,

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's a little of the essence that you bring

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's the reality of the situation, which sometimes hurts

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>because you're just like, no, I can do this, Like

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>I know that I do have to say this. I've

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>actually never ever revealed this ever before, not that it's

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>like a big scoop or whatever, but um, I don't

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>know the person's name, but I will I will tell

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you because I was trying to do, like, you know, dramas,

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and I've done quite a few and some recurring stuff,

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 1>but I remember very specifically Criminal Minds. Criminal Minds is

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 1>an odd show, right because Criminal Minds is the show

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>about the serial killers. And how that show is structured

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>is that there is a cast, there is a regular cast,

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:17.280
<v Speaker 1>but basically whoever they bring in as the serial killer

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>of that episode is actually the star of the episode.

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the structure of the show. And whoever it was,

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>And God bless you if you happen to be listening,

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll try to do the research later. That was a

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>straight offer, and I will tell you that I give

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>whoever that was a tremendous amount of because I remember

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>talking to my manager and saying like they're they're just

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>they're off, they're offering it to got it read it

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's like the and this was and I said no, No.

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I was so happy because I was like, yes, I

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 1>can do this, but I can. I can with absolute

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>certainty say no one has ever seen me do this before.

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:01.959
<v Speaker 1>Someone is like just really going out on a limb

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 1>and saying that they wanted this experience. So anyway, I've

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.479
<v Speaker 1>never yeah, I know, and I've told I've never really

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:13.240
<v Speaker 1>thought about telling you before. But yeah, that that happened,

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that's good for you. You're now on you You're a

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 1>totally different kind of show. Superman and Lois Now are

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you a comic book person? Are you an arrow verse?

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Is that what we call it? An arrow verse? Yeah? Yeah, okay, no,

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely and not Did you know who Superman was? Yes?

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>That I knew, and I knew like you know, I

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 1>had watched you know, the Daughter movies like back of

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>It say whatever, you know, we all know, man, what

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 1>planet are you on? Even don't know at least who's Superman?

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:56.919
<v Speaker 1>Who Superman is? Lois Lane Clark. But like I know,

0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I had no ever in my career well

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean I sort of I was a

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 1>bit of a TV snob. I mean I was on

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>HBO for eight years and then I've worked with Hulu

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 1>on this amazing dark show called Shut I with the

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Sick Cast and had like, you know, the Mentalist, like

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>all of these things. So when this came along, I

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>thought they were joking. Like when my team called me,

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>they were like, look, they're really interested in you for this,

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, for Superman and low If. I was like,

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that's hilarious, you right, They're like, no, no, really, like

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the creator of the show, we'd like to sit with you.

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't even know how I

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>feel about that, I really and so I went and

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I sat with Todd Helping, which was easily one of

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the greatest decisions I've ever done in my life because

0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>he is usually one of the greatest humans I have

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>had the pleasure to know in our business. It's like,

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 1>really and um. We sat down and it was such

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>a transparent conversation and I really told him sort of

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of my reservations because I had a lot

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>like I you know, to me the c W was

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>the c W. I'd never worked for the c W.

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I always thought you had to be like young and

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>hot to be on the c W. I was just like,

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is these are not goals, okay.

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So it was this real moment of like, check your

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>ego at the door, what is happening? What is this project?

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>And what's the creative behind it? And Todd really, you know,

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>he had said he really wanted this to be a

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>version of like Friday Night Lights meets a superhero background,

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and that the role of Lana Lange was going to be,

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, a character that a lot of the audience

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>was going to really relate to. And we just have

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 1>this amazing conversation and I was like, I gotta do this.

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to give us a try. Why not? And um,

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it's been wild and fun and great training, like some

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 1>of the storylines that I've had to do, and you know,

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>being a regular on a show like all of the things,

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and having these story lines that I've really gotten to

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>sink my teeth into has just been dreaming. So jokes

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.759
<v Speaker 1>on me for judging it in the first place, but

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I think we all do that, you know, like and

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 1>we have these ideas and we have these goals, right,

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and our business is so ego driven, you know, like

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>it is like you go, yeah, but I was an

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 1>HBO girl for eight years, but you're not anymore. Guess

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 1>why you're not anymore? So? The one next that it's

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>very interesting. I am going to check it out based

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 1>on everything that I have. I have not seen you,

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and I've seen a few scenes knowing that I was

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.240
<v Speaker 1>going to talk to you. The description of the show

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 1>basically Superman and Lois are now raising kids. So interesting

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>almost an incredible meets Friday Night Lights meets yeah, like

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:35.399
<v Speaker 1>very interesting, and uh I am. I'm definitely gonna check

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it out. Now, are you in the comic con world? Now?

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:50.280
<v Speaker 1>The arrow Verse stardom thing is it is? I haven't

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I I have really been super gunshy about it, honestly,

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 1>just for COVID reasons. Like I've just thought of going

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:03.839
<v Speaker 1>to a thing. I'm just like, oh, hell no, not

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:07.399
<v Speaker 1>right now. I'm not ready for it. But I mean eventually, yeah,

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 1>that comes with the territory. I suppose. Yeah, you're you're

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 1>on hiatus, but you're shooting season three now, right we

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>start in September. You start in September. Okay, have you

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>gotten the scription enjoyed these last few weeks? No? But

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I did sit with the creator yesterday and I got

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>a low down of season three and I'm very excited.

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>What's what's going to happen? Well, I can't tell you.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't. It's just us chatting. You know, you can't

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>tell I'm just gonna have to tune in. You can't

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>tell us. I mean me, what's what's coming? Oh? I

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 1>was going to ask you about shut up? Shut I uh?

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Isabella Rossalini, or as David Letterman always said, Isabelle La

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Ross Okay, psychics and hypnotists are psychics real? Do they exist? Yes?

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>They do. But there's a lot of shysters too, But

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<v Speaker 1>they do, but they do. Okay, you're the second person

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<v Speaker 1>I've asked that based on work that they've done. You're

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<v Speaker 1>the second person who said, yes, if you could know

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<v Speaker 1>what was in store for you, would you want to know? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to know. Nope, I'm good. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have that desire to like go and like

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<v Speaker 1>see a psychic. I think like I feel like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the flow and you're doing and you feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're doing all the work, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual work, the mental work, physical work, and you're in it,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're good, like things are gonna align as they should.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to know. Okay, that's good. I buy that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I agree with that. I think I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I agree with that. I might have a

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<v Speaker 1>slight more skepticism than you do, but I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You keep going, you keep doing you and whatever happens

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<v Speaker 1>will happen. But in front of the other one, the

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<v Speaker 1>other absolutely me um. Is there any so drama, comedy, dark, now,

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<v Speaker 1>arrow verse, all of it? Is there any type of

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<v Speaker 1>role or genre that you haven't played yet that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to? Oh my god so much? I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel this way? I feel like, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how much work I've done, I always feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just scratching the surface. And I really, I swear to God,

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<v Speaker 1>I still feel that way, Like I get just so

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and tired. Like when I watched Mayor of Easttown, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's my dream. Like basically, Kate Winslet

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<v Speaker 1>is my dream. Really, let's just call it, leould call it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she can do no wrong. I think she's phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she makes incredible choices. You know, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel like there's so much more to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's great I've had, like I've had such

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<v Speaker 1>incredible opportunities, but like there's so much more in all,

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<v Speaker 1>in all the genres, Like there's just so much more

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I love that. I think for me, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I still consider myself a young man, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>always looked older. And so like going back to my

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<v Speaker 1>theater days, both in college and then even after college,

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<v Speaker 1>I was always playing these role roles that I was

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<v Speaker 1>way too young for. I was way way too way

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<v Speaker 1>too young for. And so here's a crazy thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about like roles I mean some in new stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the cannon, if you will, like like roles

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<v Speaker 1>in like Willie Loman, death of a salesman type stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's like, oh, I'm getting pretty close to

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<v Speaker 1>the age that I could actually do these things now,

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<v Speaker 1>where with experience, with the experience and the age and

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<v Speaker 1>the thing there, I think for me that that's an

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<v Speaker 1>exciting that's an exciting property. Sure, yeah, to see what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing, men, Well, one of these days we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do something together. That's what's gonna happen. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be very, very fun. Thank you so much for talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I appreciate it. It's so interesting to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about your life and your journey, and I wish you

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but the best in Superman and Lowis and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. We'll do it together at some point. All right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>sounds great, Emmanuel, thank you for joining us here today.

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<v Speaker 1>What a pleasure that conversation was. I think we need

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<v Speaker 1>an Entourage and the Office crossover show. Let's call it

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<v Speaker 1>Entourage meets the Office, shall we? To everyone out there listening,

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