1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: For the longest time. I sort of just it didn't 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: click in my brain that, oh, yeah, I do comedy. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Like to me, I just didn't do comedy. I'm like 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: not not funny, like not at all, Like that's why 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: would I do comedy. I remember even saying, like, it's 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: not like I'd ever do an Outam Sandler film. Cut 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: to zone. Hi, I'm Emmanuel Shrieky, and I am an 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: actress that loves to travel the world. Hello, gentle listeners 9 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: from far and wide, Welcome to a new episode of 10 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Off the Beat. I am, as always your host, Brian Baumgartner, 11 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: and as you just heard, today, we're gonna be joined 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: by one of my favorites, the amazing Emmanuel Shrieky. You 13 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: might know her as Sloan from Entourage. She also played 14 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Claire Bonner in snow Day and now she's starring as 15 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Lana Lang in the hit TV show Superman. And Lois 16 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: from rom Coms to video games and now the Arrow Verse. Emmanuel, 17 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: she has truly done it all, and to think it 18 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: all started with a McDonald's commercial at age ten. Yes, 19 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: the acting bug got her very early on. Look, I 20 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: don't have to tell you everything. She's done, because she 21 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: is here to do that herself. Let's dive right in, 22 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: shall we. Here she is Emmanuel, Shrieky, bubble and squeak. 23 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: I love it, Bubble, squeak, bubble and squeaker. Cook it 24 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: every month left from the people. What's up? Hello? Um? 25 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm so good? How are you? I'm fantastic. 26 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming to talk to me. 27 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: Oh my pleasure of course. Where are you at my 28 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: house in West Hollywood? You're in You're in l A. Well, 29 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: I know you travel around all the time, constantly working 30 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: and on the road. Well, welcome back home to Los Angeles. 31 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: Thank you. Let me tell you it's so. I'm on 32 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: a hiatus right now and it is so good to 33 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: be back in l A for the summer. It's been amazing. 34 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: Where where do you film Superman? Lois? We shoot the 35 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: show in Vancouver? All right? Your home, your homeland, yes, 36 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: my homeland, but this is my home here. But it's great. 37 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: It's the same time zone. It's an easy flight, right. 38 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I want to talk to you about 39 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: Superman and Lois and a little bit. First. I want 40 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: to start by going back to your your homeland. I 41 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: know you grew up outside of Toronto, is that right. 42 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that I've talked to anyone else that 43 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: this is true of You grew up in an Orthodox 44 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: Jewish household, is that right? Yeah? Modern Orthodox, like you weren't. Yeah, 45 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: like it wasn't. When I say, I think, I don't know, 46 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: maybe I should come up with a different terminology. It 47 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: was Orthodox in the sense that like we did shabbut 48 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: every Friday, and we were kosher at home, milk and meat, 49 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: like separate sinks, you know, dishes um all the high 50 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: holiday but like day to day was normal. Okay, so 51 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: really just the Shabbat and the big holidays. But I 52 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: mean keeping a kosher kitchen at home, it was a 53 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: big deal. That's a thing. That's a thing, right. Yeah. 54 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: When I had friends over, I had to be like, 55 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: don't use that sponge. Yeah no, I know, Well that 56 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: that's so interesting. I mean, to come out of that 57 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: type of environment and that type of household. Um. I 58 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: was told your first at least paid acting job was 59 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: in a McDonald's commercial. Is that? Now? This is my guest, 60 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: as you probably weren't eating McDonald's, right, maybe the fish? 61 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: Oh was that fine? Yeah? Like that's the thing. We 62 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: would go out to dinner, you know, It's just nothing 63 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: was allowed to eating the house. That was the okay stipulation. Yeah, okay. Um, 64 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: you started you started acting young? Now were you instantly 65 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: Well how did you start acting? What was your first experience? 66 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: My first experience was doing community theater in Unionville where 67 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: I lived. UM. We had was called the Unionville Theater Company. 68 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: And my classmate at school had said, you know, do 69 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: you want to audition for my dad's play because his 70 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: dad ran the theater company. And I auditioned for the 71 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: role of the baby ghost in this Canadian play called 72 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: Listen to the Wind. And it was like, you know, 73 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: a full on theater experience at seven years old, and 74 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: I was in like, I was like, this is amazing. 75 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: I this is what I want to do at age 76 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: seven as baby ghosts who were like this, this is it? 77 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: Was it theater specifically or was it was it being 78 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: on stage act theater? That's that's like my roots. And 79 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: then you know the town that I lived in, Unionville, 80 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: we um at the time, like when it was time 81 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: to start high school. Uh, they were building a high 82 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: school for the performing arts, and they had an amazing 83 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: theater program. So you know it was it was like 84 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: I was all in. I was like I had to 85 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: audition and I had to get in. I mean, I 86 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: don't know what I would have done if I never 87 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: got accepted. How far How far were you from Toronto? 88 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: Like minute drive outside the city? Okay? And so you 89 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: started because I mentioned the McDonald's commercial, you started? What 90 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: did you get an agent or you started like in 91 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 1: terms of commercial So what happened was that, um, during 92 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: high school in the theater program in Canada, there is 93 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: a levision station called y TV, which is like the 94 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: equivalent of Nickelodeon, will say, and they were having a 95 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: writing competition and the winner of the writing competition would 96 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: have their show produced and they shows our school as 97 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: as the location, just because it was a new, you know, 98 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: very beautiful kind of nine o two one oh looking 99 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: high school and they used are they auditioned our theater department. 100 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: So that was sort of like my foray into film 101 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: and television. And from that I got an agent and 102 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: then sort of started, you know, doing commercials and one 103 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: liners and two liners and you know, a week here 104 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: guests are there. Right. So in your early experience on 105 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: on camera, how for you was that different than doing 106 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: work in the theater. Were you still interested more in theater, 107 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: or did you start to really feel like film and 108 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: tell where you wanted to move. You know, it's interesting 109 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 1: I think that I made that decision sort of later 110 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: because when I started in film and television, I was 111 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: still in high school and you know, learning everything from 112 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: Stanislavski and Udahogen and all the method acting and all 113 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: the things, and so it was just sort of something 114 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: that I was doing parallel to going to school. And 115 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: then when I went to college for a year and 116 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: I majored in another theater program, and it was at 117 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: that point that it felt a little bit redundant, like really, 118 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: my high school had such an amazing program, And at 119 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: that point, sort of later on, I really saw that 120 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: I actually wanted a career in film versus theater. And 121 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: so then I think, just you know, I have intense 122 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: stage fright, really, I know, it's it gets crazy. Yeah, 123 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: it's like really intense still, and yeah, I get really nervous, 124 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: like like sick, Like I'm like I literally am like, 125 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, why am I doing this? This is 126 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: a nightmare? Why, you know. And then of course, once 127 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: you're in it and the magic takes over. You're like, oh, 128 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: that was the best thing after ever. But that was 129 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: like a big thing for me, And I don't know, 130 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: I just felt that. I think my inspiration really came 131 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: from so many movies that I had watched growing up, 132 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: and I think I just had this dream that I 133 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: really wanted to be a part of that. That way, 134 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: I had like a very big influence on me. So yeah, 135 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: so I just sort of pursued it and it seemed 136 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: to have been the way to go. Yeah, it's fascinating 137 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: to me because my experience was was just so different. 138 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: Like I and now, you know, you hear so much 139 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: about Atlanta. I grew up in Atlanta, and there's so 140 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: atta but there you go there and there's so much 141 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: work happening. You know, you can't be an actor now 142 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: and not not work in Atlanta, And there's so much 143 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: stuff happening there At the time, either, I mean, I 144 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: think I know there was less, but it wasn't even 145 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: a part of my consciousness film and television or being 146 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: on film or like getting an agent like and I 147 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: don't know what that says about me or you know, 148 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: obviously it was it was a different time but for 149 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: me it was just theater was like, oh no, I 150 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: want to be an actor, and I want to be 151 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: a theater actor. And that was that was for a 152 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: really long time. Actually, um so yes, fascinating to me 153 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: to talk to people whose experience started at least early 154 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: on and yeah, I mean McDonald's commercial here and a 155 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: couple of lines there or whatever, but having that experience 156 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: of being on film, on being on a set, which 157 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: is such a different experience. I mean, you're fundamentally you're 158 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: doing the same thing. You're acting, you're playing a character, 159 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: whatever that character is or does, but the experience of 160 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: creation is so different. Beyond yeah, I think you know that, Brian. 161 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: To your point was that, like you're right nowadays to 162 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: be in film and television, it's virtually unheard of to 163 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: not end up in Atlanta. But I think that that 164 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: happened fairly recently. Like I would say that the industry 165 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: exploded in Atlanta, what within the last ten years maybe, 166 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, whereas like Toronto was always a place where 167 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: there was a pretty thriving film and television community. So 168 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: I think it just is exposure, like I think, you 169 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,479 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like and also in my theater program. 170 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: There were kids, you know, who were on Degrassi Junior 171 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: High So it was in my consciousness already. But I 172 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: think if I had grown up like you, I probably 173 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: would have stuck in theater far longer until maybe the 174 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: opportunity arose. You know. Yeah, how were your were your parents? 175 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: Were they supportive? I mean obviously at your ten they 176 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: have to drive you or whatever. Yeah, were they support 177 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: him of the experience and obviously beyond, Like, I am 178 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: so lucky I had the support of my entire family. 179 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean, my parents were supportive, my older brother and 180 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,239 Speaker 1: my older sister, like everybody sort of felt like that's 181 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: what I should be doing. Like I think, you know, 182 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: just because I was sort of one of these youngsters 183 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: that was. I was really into music and dancing and 184 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: entertainment of all kinds. And I was a bit of 185 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: a ham as a kid. I became a lot shyer 186 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: though older I got, but like as a little little one, 187 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: I was really I loved just performing for people. Um. 188 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: So I think I'm so lucky that I had the 189 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: support of my family, you know, fairly consistently. That's great, 190 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: did you sing? I thought I couldn't think that's what 191 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: I always say that's what I because I mean people 192 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: are like, oh, did you do musicals and stuff? And 193 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: I was like, yep, kind but like, looking back, I 194 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: was very very clearly talk singing like I could. I could, 195 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: I could talk sing on the rhythm and as long 196 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: as there was some comedy role involved that I could, 197 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: I could crush that pretty good. But looking back is like, no, 198 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't really, I couldn't really think I had to 199 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: sing from my audition for theater school for college, and 200 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: I mean like I did it, but I mean, you know, 201 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: like and not to basically be like, well, she can 202 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: hold the tune, you know. But it's so it's so 203 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: crazy because I've often thought about how, like even today, 204 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: like how I would actually love to take the singing 205 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: classes because similar to like my stage fright, like I 206 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: think the two are linked, Like I feel I know 207 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: that I can hold the tune, but I am so stuck, 208 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: like I just can't let go. I get so freaked 209 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: out and I just don't do it. And I feel 210 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: like if I can get over that hump, it could 211 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: probably free me up as a performer just all around. 212 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Because it's it's a bit of a fear you know. Yeah, 213 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: I want to talk about your stage fright just a 214 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: little bit more because I didn't know this is it? 215 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: Is it about being in front of people. I think 216 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: like stage fright is a combination of like, you know, 217 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: it's the actor's nightmare of being like out there. It's 218 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: you can't call cut and like but if you forget 219 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: your lines what you want to I think wrong. It's 220 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: all the things, like all the narratives that go in 221 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: your head that are completely fear base, that like paralyzed me. Um, 222 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: but just a little like I mean, I managed to 223 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: get through it, but man, it's pretty intense. Yeah I was. 224 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: I would say I didn't have like traditional stage front. 225 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean, of course I have had those nightmares. Those 226 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: nightmares continue to today. And for those of you who 227 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: are listening who don't know what we're talking about, there 228 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: is a very specific actor's nightmare where you are sleeping 229 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: but suddenly right. I mean, it could be any number 230 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: of things, like you're about to get on stage and 231 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: you don't know where your costume is or your wardrobe, 232 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: or you're on stage and you don't know what you're 233 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: supposed to say and everyone is looking at you, and yeah, 234 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: that that anxiety dream that exists. I think I had 235 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: it more on live shows. I had it for a bit, 236 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: and I think for me it was about there wasn't 237 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: a script, right, but and somehow it was different than 238 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: improv because I feel like an improv you sort of 239 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: find your time to jump in, and you jump in. 240 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: This is more like someone is asking you questions and 241 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: you're not exactly clear what those questions are going to 242 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: be or where it's going to leave. And I'll tell 243 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: you a quick story. I was still getting this is 244 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: a this is a long time ago now, but I 245 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: was on a late night television show. I'm not going 246 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: to mention the name of it is since it does 247 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: not exist. And I am there's a live studio audience 248 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: and it's live late night and I'm in the chair 249 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: and the host says to me, so we have a 250 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: surprise for you. You don't know what it is, right, 251 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: And I said no, and he said yeah, and then 252 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: makes this very big deal about the fact that this 253 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: is truly a surprise. This isn't a TV surprise, Like 254 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: you really don't know what it is. And I felt 255 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: my face turn hot and begin to sweat, like uncontrollable 256 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: because I truly don't know what it was. And it's 257 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: funny that it's this because we were just discussing it. 258 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: This was, by the way, this was not planned. They 259 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: suddenly start playing a video and the video is a 260 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: video of me in high school, singing in a tux, 261 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: singing in and this is kind of before you can 262 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: find anything in the world online or whatever. And I 263 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: had not seen this video. I don't think ever. I mean, 264 00:17:54,880 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: it was like VHS recorded video of me singing to 265 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: dream the impossible dream on video, and I'm like, and 266 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: I kind of got up and started saying on the 267 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: show like at the end, because I was like, I 268 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: don't even know what to do. I don't even know 269 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: what to do. And that probably damaged me for a while, 270 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: just that experience of not it actually coming out, but 271 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: just saying like, we're going to surprise you and you 272 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: don't know what it is in front of all of 273 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: these people. That was my That was my nightmare. Hell, like, 274 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: you're personal that was my personal health. Yeah, oh my god. 275 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: You know I also had um like the true it 276 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: was my nightmare come true. But ironically it wasn't on stage. 277 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: It was on a television show that I was doing 278 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: a couple of years back called Murder in the first Yes, 279 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: I was playing this gang unit cop and for a 280 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: week I had been learning like pages and pages of 281 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: dial log and I had it down. And then the 282 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: night before the writer sends me new scenes. But like 283 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: Brian brand New, Okay, now here's what I need to 284 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: tell you. This is everybody who knows me knows this. 285 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: I do not have a photographic memory, and I need 286 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: time to work on my ship, like for real, I 287 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: mean Superman and Lois knows that. Every show I work 288 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: on knows that. That's just how I roll, It's how 289 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: my brain works. So the night before I am flicking out, 290 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: and for the first time in my life, I took 291 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: like half an adderall and I was like, I have 292 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: to learn this, I have to do this. So I'm 293 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: stressed to the max, anxious, barely slept. Get to set. 294 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: The next day, I am beside myself and I go 295 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: to the director on She's like the loveliest woman, Alesan Andrews. 296 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: She was directing our episode, and I'm like, Alison, I 297 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: got to tell you. They changed all my stuff at 298 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: the very last minute, And like I don't learn stuff quickly, 299 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: but I've got certainly done my best. I just want 300 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: you to know that. She's like, no problem, it's all good. 301 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: I was like, awesome, we'll probably just you know, do 302 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: it in snippets whatever. I get to set and she 303 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: says to me, sweetheart, it's a walking talk, one shot, 304 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: walking talk instant, like you don't even know. So I'm 305 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: like there. I mean I think of maybe seven or 306 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: eight takes. I think I got it once. Honest to god, 307 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: I got it once, and I got it because like 308 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: after the fifth or sixth take, I'm like in the back, 309 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: we're like shooting in this warehouse. Um my co star 310 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: Kathleen Roberts, and she was like, you've got this. I 311 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: heard you in the trailer. You got this. I'm like panicking, 312 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: and I tears are streaming down my face and I'm 313 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: like before action, I like walked to the bathroom warehouse 314 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: and I literally pray to both my parents. They're both 315 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: passed away, and I'm like, well, Dad, if you could 316 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: hear me right now, I did you so bad. I 317 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: have to get through this and I would be cold. 318 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: Somehow I did. However, Brian, after I had a meeting 319 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: with the with the writer with the creator of the show, 320 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, that was easily the most stressful 321 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: moment of my life. And I'll tell you I got 322 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: it just barely. Uh. I did not do my best work, 323 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: honest good, but it was a true after nightmare. That's 324 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: that's off. You started with a lot of comedy and 325 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: kind of romantic comedy roles Detroit, Rock City, snow Day 326 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: with the amazing Gene Smart Chevy, Adam and Eve. Uh 327 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: you don't mess with the Zohan. Was there something specifically 328 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: that drew you to those type of rolls or those 329 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: type of roles just start finding you. I think they 330 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: just started finding me, you know, because for the longest time, 331 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: I sort of just it didn't click in my brain that, 332 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I do comedy. Like to me, I just 333 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: didn't do comedy, and I gotten that funny like not 334 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: at all, Like that's why would I do comedy. I 335 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: remember even saying like, it's not like I'd ever do 336 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: an Adam Sandler film. Cut to Zan. You know, I 337 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: remember a few years ago, Uh, I did Super Troopers too, 338 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: and Jay chandrashekr you know, we we talked on the 339 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: phone and he's like he wants me for this part, 340 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Jay, I don't honestly think that i'm 341 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: your person, Like I don't do comedy, and he was like, 342 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: are you kidding. I was like, no, I'm not kidding. 343 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding at all. He's like, I mean he 344 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: did this thing and he jokes about it today. He 345 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: was like, Emmanuel is like the only actor that I've 346 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: ever like spoken to on the phone that tried to 347 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: talk her way out of doing a part. And I 348 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: was like, oh god, that's really messed up. Anyway, I 349 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: did it. I had the best time. So yeah, I 350 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: guess I do do comedy. Yes, you, of course you 351 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: do do comedy. You were then eventually cast in well, 352 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: I would say, a very important obviously huge comedy Entourage. 353 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: It's crazy when I looked back on and I was like, 354 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: I think this is true? Is this really true? Two 355 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: thousand five, Entourage and The Office started at like exactly 356 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: the same time. Oh, two crazy different shows, both successful 357 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: in their own way, but they started at the same time, 358 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: obviously on two different networks. Now you join Entourage in 359 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: the second season, obviously, as sloan, did you watch the 360 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: first season? Were you aware of it? Barely? I think 361 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: I've watched a couple of episodes just to know what 362 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: I was going to go, do you know? Um? But no, 363 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: I was. It wasn't even you know, it really popped. 364 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: By like third season, it really hit, but I think 365 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: like it was a little slow burned out the gate. 366 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: Second season it started to definitely get some momentum, and 367 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: by third season it was just like water cooler conversation, Right, 368 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: what was your experience of auditioning for the role of Sloan? Oh? 369 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: My god, it was so wild. First of all, it 370 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: was like a three episode arc. It's literally like just 371 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: three episodes. But apparently the story goes that they really 372 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: wanted to find ease new girlfriend, and you know, they 373 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: had cast some wonderful ladies and for whatever reasons, it just, 374 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, never really worked out. And so when I 375 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: auditioned initially, it went really really well. And when I 376 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: got the call back, they had already like altered the 377 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: role to be like to basically insinuate that my father 378 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: was Malcolm McDowell and that my mother was Israeli, like 379 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: just to explain the coloring or whatever. And that's interesting. 380 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: And like Kevin Connolly had called me before the callback 381 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: because I think he just loved I didn't even know him. 382 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: I guess he had seen the tapes or whatever and 383 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: really sort of gravitated towards my audition and he just 384 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: called me and he was like, do exactly what you did, 385 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: Like that was great. And then we read together at 386 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: the callback and in the very last hour there was 387 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: another actress that was like right like primed to get it, 388 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, Doug Ellen sort of fought 389 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: hard for me and it went my way. And Kevin 390 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: Connolly was the one who called me and offered me 391 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: the part, like he got permission to do that, so sweet, 392 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: I know. And then and then like it was it's 393 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: you know, I've talked about this so much. Is that 394 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: Entourage was like the gift that keeps on giving, Like 395 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: it was the rest of this series plus a movie 396 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: that started out as like a three episode ark, the 397 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: game Changer that one. How how long after the first 398 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: three did you know you were going to stick around? 399 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: I think it just sort of kept happening incrementally, like 400 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: they just kept writing and writing, and then third season 401 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: and fourth season, so it was like, you know, I 402 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: never was a regular on that show. I was always 403 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: a recurring because the regulars had, you know, the front 404 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: billing with all their names and the thing, and then 405 00:27:54,320 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: I ended up having that for the movie. What was 406 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: it like going back after so much time and doing 407 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: the movie, I mean, aside from being fun and I'm 408 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: sure reuniting with all those guys again, do you feel 409 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: like you were different at that point, after so much 410 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: time had passed from when you started so long before? 411 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: Not at all, Like, honestly, not at all. I mean, 412 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: what five years had gone by and it felt as 413 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: though we picked up exactly where we left off. It 414 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: was wild. It didn't even feel like it had been 415 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: five years, you know. And the crazy part is that 416 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: still to this day, like when we all hang or 417 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: see each other, it's surreal to all of us that 418 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: it's been fifteen years since the beginning. Like wait, what right? 419 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: That doesn't even make sense. I know you had a director, 420 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: Julian Farrino, who directed, based on my research, a little 421 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: over a quarter of the episodes, you know, Julian came on. 422 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: He and I became fairly close. I would say, he 423 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 1: started directing the office a few episodes and he and 424 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: I would sit because I guess, and I guess I 425 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: still am I'm doing this. I'm just kind of a 426 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: nerd of the business. And we just kept start talking 427 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: about the fact that these two shows were at the 428 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: time very big, very popular people were watching, and they 429 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: could not have been any more different different from from 430 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: each other. What do you think the success of Entourage was? 431 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: What do you think was what gravitated people towards it? Gosh, 432 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: grand um. I think there's so many things. I mean, 433 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: I feel like, and you can attest to this, I 434 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: feel like people are fascinated with the business, right like 435 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: people who aren't in the business just sort of in 436 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: the world at large. When you go to a dinner 437 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: party and you're like the only apt or, suddenly all 438 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: conversation is like pointed to you, and you're like, so 439 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: there is this real, like inherent fascination curiosity. And I 440 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: think that that had a real big appeal, especially because 441 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: we were really exploring this sort of funny but also 442 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: gnarly underbelly of what is Hollywood, you know, And and 443 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: it was controversial, and it was toted as a misogynistic 444 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: and it was all of these things. But like it 445 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, but what do you think the business is? 446 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: Tree me too? What do you think this fucking business 447 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: was you know, like when Doug was writing that stuff 448 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: of that was not out of like his imagination. And 449 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: I think people were floored by that. I think that 450 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: had a big part to do with it. What do 451 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: you think that makes so much sense? No? That, I mean, 452 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: I think that makes so much sense. I mean I 453 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: think that for me, what was so interesting about the 454 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: two shows, you know, being popular and again like basically 455 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: being created and happening at the same time at the 456 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: same time, there was a sexy escapism aspect of Entourage 457 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: and kind of more specifically like what what you're talking 458 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: about about those dinner party conversations when you're there and 459 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: people want to know and they want to hear, and 460 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: to a large degree, um it. I think there was 461 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: a lot of controversy about Entourage because of the things 462 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: that you were talking about. It generated a ton of discussion. 463 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: But I think also like that, I don't know, sexy 464 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: people and private planes and you know, like that whole 465 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: sort of sexy escapism. And what's fascinating to me is 466 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: we were just the opposite, right Like as a show 467 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: we were we could not have been any I mean, 468 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: we were literally selling paper in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and that 469 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: and that was what Julian and I would we were talking, 470 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they were both happening when he was there, 471 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: and it was like, he's directing our show in the 472 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: next week, He's going to wherever you guys on location 473 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. And I was like, well, this is just 474 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: so interesting to me that the two shows exist at 475 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: exactly the same time in the same place, and this 476 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: is and and this is what the shows are exploring, 477 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: and these are the variety of ways that people can 478 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: be entertained and and want to watch. I feel like that, 479 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: it's just fascinating. Oh my gosh. I agree with you. 480 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean I do. I mean, which just goes to 481 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: show you there's a there's a room for everything. At 482 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: the same time, what do you most when you think 483 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: back on that experience and, as you said, the gift 484 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: that keeps on giving. What are you most proud of 485 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: yourself and your experience, either of the show or your 486 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: role on the show or what you did. Did anything 487 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 1: come to mind? Yeah? I mean, god, that's such a 488 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: good question. You know. I don't throw all the entourage 489 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: talk that I've done over the years. I don't think 490 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: that anybody's ever asked me that. I think it was 491 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: just a really it was interesting to play a role 492 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: that It's not like I had that much screen time, 493 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was like it was the Boys Show, 494 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: but we created I guess these characters that really hit 495 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: a chord and it's sort of I guess it just 496 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: found it like just a huge honor and compliment that 497 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: people really just like resonated to this woman and that 498 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: like for a show like that, Sloan was known as 499 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: this sort of like grounded, smart, sort of sophisticated and saucy, 500 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: but like that it wasn't just this like overly sexified 501 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: role like that. Part of her appeal was more than that. 502 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: And it was a testament to two Doug writing that 503 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: kind of woman. Like he was very protective of Sloan. So, 504 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess looking back, like if I were 505 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: to look back on my career, I would be like, Wow, 506 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: I guess I am really proud of that. You know, 507 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: to have a character that people just really wanted to 508 00:34:51,920 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: get to know, there's a massive compliment. You think you're 509 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: not a comedy person, you certainly are. You certainly are. 510 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: But after Entourage and I'm more interested in whether this 511 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: was intentional or again, if this just kind of happened 512 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: you started working doing a lot of crime thriller, dark action, 513 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: fully intentional? It was? It was was it murder in 514 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: the First Cleaners? Mentally? Yes, oh yeah, you just wanted 515 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: something different. I just wanted to well, you know, okay, 516 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, like they they maybe in for this day, 517 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: like to put us in a box. Right, You're that 518 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: kind of performer. This is what you do. You look 519 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: that way, you have this kind of voice or charm 520 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 1: or whatever. This is what you do. And coming from 521 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: the theater, it's like, no, that's not what I do. 522 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: That's easy. I get to basically be me and get 523 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: to say some great dialogue. But like, this is what 524 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: I do, right, So it was it was very intentional 525 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: to to mix it up and to just try to 526 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: sink my teeth into stuff that I wouldn't otherwise necessarily 527 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: be thought of. Great. Emmanuel, you and I are the same. 528 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know. That's like I can't even say that, 529 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: but you know it's I mean, it's exactly the same. 530 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: When the Office was over, and it's funny, I was 531 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: just at an event with a lot of Office fans 532 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: and a few people brought up actually, like you know, 533 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: I did Law and Order SVU and minds. People bring 534 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: up criminal minds all the time and they're like, that's 535 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: not you. What are you know that you were good 536 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: but that's not or I'll get an interview and they'll 537 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: start talking about my background in comedy and I'm not 538 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: being snarky, I'm like, I actually don't have one. I 539 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: didn't do improv. That wasn't my thing. Like I was 540 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: traveling around the country playing horrible people, like trying to 541 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: find some bit of humanity in rapists and abusers and 542 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: all of them. That's much more what I do. But 543 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: it's fascinating that we both decided. I'm I'm really glad 544 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: to hear that that it was an intentional choice by you. 545 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's funny, Brian, that's actually very funny. 546 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: Like you're right, I do. I completely get it. And 547 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: I think too, is that you know, there is something 548 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: to be said though for really genius casting, because you know, 549 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 1: a show like The Office worked because it was brilliantly cast. 550 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: Now the argument is, okay, but are you casting the 551 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: person or are you casting based on essence? And I 552 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: feel like it's kind of like it's a little it's 553 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: a little of like, of course, what you bring to it, 554 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: and it's a little of the essence that you bring 555 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: and that's the reality of the situation, which sometimes hurts 556 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: because you're just like, no, I can do this, Like 557 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: I know that I do have to say this. I've 558 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: actually never ever revealed this ever before, not that it's 559 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: like a big scoop or whatever, but um, I don't 560 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: know the person's name, but I will I will tell 561 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: you because I was trying to do, like, you know, dramas, 562 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: and I've done quite a few and some recurring stuff, 563 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: but I remember very specifically Criminal Minds. Criminal Minds is 564 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: an odd show, right because Criminal Minds is the show 565 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: about the serial killers. And how that show is structured 566 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: is that there is a cast, there is a regular cast, 567 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 1: but basically whoever they bring in as the serial killer 568 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: of that episode is actually the star of the episode. 569 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: That's the structure of the show. And whoever it was, 570 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: And God bless you if you happen to be listening, 571 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: I'll try to do the research later. That was a 572 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: straight offer, and I will tell you that I give 573 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: whoever that was a tremendous amount of because I remember 574 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: talking to my manager and saying like they're they're just 575 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: they're off, they're offering it to got it read it 576 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: and it's like the and this was and I said no, No. 577 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: I was so happy because I was like, yes, I 578 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: can do this, but I can. I can with absolute 579 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: certainty say no one has ever seen me do this before. 580 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,959 Speaker 1: Someone is like just really going out on a limb 581 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: and saying that they wanted this experience. So anyway, I've 582 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,479 Speaker 1: never yeah, I know, and I've told I've never really 583 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 1: thought about telling you before. But yeah, that that happened, 584 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: that's good for you. You're now on you You're a 585 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: totally different kind of show. Superman and Lois Now are 586 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: you a comic book person? Are you an arrow verse? 587 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: Is that what we call it? An arrow verse? Yeah? Yeah, okay, no, 588 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: definitely and not Did you know who Superman was? Yes? 589 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: That I knew, and I knew like you know, I 590 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: had watched you know, the Daughter movies like back of 591 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: It say whatever, you know, we all know, man, what 592 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: planet are you on? Even don't know at least who's Superman? 593 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: Who Superman is? Lois Lane Clark. But like I know, 594 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I had no ever in my career well 595 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: you know, I mean I sort of I was a 596 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: bit of a TV snob. I mean I was on 597 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: HBO for eight years and then I've worked with Hulu 598 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: on this amazing dark show called Shut I with the 599 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: Sick Cast and had like, you know, the Mentalist, like 600 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: all of these things. So when this came along, I 601 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: thought they were joking. Like when my team called me, 602 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: they were like, look, they're really interested in you for this, 603 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, for Superman and low If. I was like, 604 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: that's hilarious, you right, They're like, no, no, really, like 605 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: the creator of the show, we'd like to sit with you. 606 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't even know how I 607 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: feel about that, I really and so I went and 608 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: I sat with Todd Helping, which was easily one of 609 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: the greatest decisions I've ever done in my life because 610 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: he is usually one of the greatest humans I have 611 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: had the pleasure to know in our business. It's like, 612 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: really and um. We sat down and it was such 613 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: a transparent conversation and I really told him sort of 614 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot of my reservations because I had a lot 615 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: like I you know, to me the c W was 616 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: the c W. I'd never worked for the c W. 617 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: I always thought you had to be like young and 618 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: hot to be on the c W. I was just like, 619 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is these are not goals, okay. 620 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: So it was this real moment of like, check your 621 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: ego at the door, what is happening? What is this project? 622 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: And what's the creative behind it? And Todd really, you know, 623 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: he had said he really wanted this to be a 624 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: version of like Friday Night Lights meets a superhero background, 625 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: and that the role of Lana Lange was going to be, 626 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, a character that a lot of the audience 627 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: was going to really relate to. And we just have 628 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: this amazing conversation and I was like, I gotta do this. 629 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: I want to give us a try. Why not? And um, 630 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: it's been wild and fun and great training, like some 631 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: of the storylines that I've had to do, and you know, 632 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: being a regular on a show like all of the things, 633 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: and having these story lines that I've really gotten to 634 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: sink my teeth into has just been dreaming. So jokes 635 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: on me for judging it in the first place, but 636 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: I think we all do that, you know, like and 637 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: we have these ideas and we have these goals, right, 638 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: and our business is so ego driven, you know, like 639 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: it is like you go, yeah, but I was an 640 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: HBO girl for eight years, but you're not anymore. Guess 641 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: why you're not anymore? So? The one next that it's 642 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: very interesting. I am going to check it out based 643 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: on everything that I have. I have not seen you, 644 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: and I've seen a few scenes knowing that I was 645 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,240 Speaker 1: going to talk to you. The description of the show 646 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: basically Superman and Lois are now raising kids. So interesting 647 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: almost an incredible meets Friday Night Lights meets yeah, like 648 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: very interesting, and uh I am. I'm definitely gonna check 649 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: it out. Now, are you in the comic con world? Now? 650 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 1: The arrow Verse stardom thing is it is? I haven't 651 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: I I have really been super gunshy about it, honestly, 652 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: just for COVID reasons. Like I've just thought of going 653 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 1: to a thing. I'm just like, oh, hell no, not 654 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 1: right now. I'm not ready for it. But I mean eventually, yeah, 655 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: that comes with the territory. I suppose. Yeah, you're you're 656 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: on hiatus, but you're shooting season three now, right we 657 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: start in September. You start in September. Okay, have you 658 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: gotten the scription enjoyed these last few weeks? No? But 659 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: I did sit with the creator yesterday and I got 660 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: a low down of season three and I'm very excited. 661 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: What's what's going to happen? Well, I can't tell you. 662 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: I can't. It's just us chatting. You know, you can't 663 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: tell I'm just gonna have to tune in. You can't 664 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: tell us. I mean me, what's what's coming? Oh? I 665 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: was going to ask you about shut up? Shut I uh? 666 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: Isabella Rossalini, or as David Letterman always said, Isabelle La 667 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: Ross Okay, psychics and hypnotists are psychics real? Do they exist? Yes? 668 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: They do. But there's a lot of shysters too, But 669 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: they do, but they do. Okay, you're the second person 670 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: I've asked that based on work that they've done. You're 671 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: the second person who said, yes, if you could know 672 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: what was in store for you, would you want to know? No? 673 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't need to know. Nope, I'm good. I don't. 674 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: I don't have that desire to like go and like 675 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: see a psychic. I think like I feel like if 676 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,760 Speaker 1: you're in the flow and you're doing and you feel good. 677 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: And you're doing all the work, and you know, the 678 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: spiritual work, the mental work, physical work, and you're in it, 679 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 1: then you're good, like things are gonna align as they should. 680 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't need to know. Okay, that's good. I buy that. 681 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: I think I agree with that. I think I agree. 682 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: I think I agree with that. I might have a 683 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: slight more skepticism than you do, but I'm with you. 684 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: You keep going, you keep doing you and whatever happens 685 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: will happen. But in front of the other one, the 686 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: other absolutely me um. Is there any so drama, comedy, dark, now, 687 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: arrow verse, all of it? Is there any type of 688 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: role or genre that you haven't played yet that you 689 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: want to? Oh my god so much? I feel like, 690 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: do you feel this way? I feel like, no matter 691 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: how much work I've done, I always feel like I'm 692 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: just scratching the surface. And I really, I swear to God, 693 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: I still feel that way, Like I get just so 694 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,439 Speaker 1: crazy and tired. Like when I watched Mayor of Easttown, Yes, 695 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: I was like, that's my dream. Like basically, Kate Winslet 696 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: is my dream. Really, let's just call it, leould call it. 697 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: I think she can do no wrong. I think she's phenomenal. 698 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: I think she makes incredible choices. You know, I feel 699 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: like I feel like there's so much more to do. 700 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's great I've had, like I've had such 701 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: incredible opportunities, but like there's so much more in all, 702 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 1: in all the genres, Like there's just so much more 703 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,839 Speaker 1: to do. I love that. I think for me, I mean, 704 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: I still consider myself a young man, but I have 705 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: always looked older. And so like going back to my 706 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: theater days, both in college and then even after college, 707 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: I was always playing these role roles that I was 708 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: way too young for. I was way way too way 709 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: too young for. And so here's a crazy thing. And 710 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about like roles I mean some in new stuff, 711 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: but like the cannon, if you will, like like roles 712 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: in like Willie Loman, death of a salesman type stuff. 713 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: And now it's like, oh, I'm getting pretty close to 714 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: the age that I could actually do these things now, 715 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: where with experience, with the experience and the age and 716 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: the thing there, I think for me that that's an 717 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: exciting that's an exciting property. Sure, yeah, to see what 718 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: you're doing, men, Well, one of these days we're going 719 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,399 Speaker 1: to do something together. That's what's gonna happen. That would 720 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: be very, very fun. Thank you so much for talking 721 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: to me. I appreciate it. It's so interesting to hear 722 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: about your life and your journey, and I wish you 723 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: nothing but the best in Superman and Lowis and beyond. 724 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: Thank you. We'll do it together at some point. All right, Okay, 725 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: sounds great, Emmanuel, thank you for joining us here today. 726 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: What a pleasure that conversation was. I think we need 727 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 1: an Entourage and the Office crossover show. Let's call it 728 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: Entourage meets the Office, shall we? To everyone out there listening, 729 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed another episode of Off the Beat. 730 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: Be sure to subscribe to the podcast if you haven't already, 731 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: and give us a follow at at off the Beat 732 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: on Instagram to stay up to date with all of 733 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: the latest and greatest. Have a great week, everybody. Off 734 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: the Beat is hosted an executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, 735 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: alongside our executive producer Langley. Our producers are Diego Tapia, 736 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris, and Emily Carr. Our talent producer 737 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: is Ryan Papa Zachary, and our intern is Sammy Katz 738 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: our theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed by my great 739 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 1: friend Creed Bratton, and the episode was mixed by Seth Olandski.