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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast as tremendous upside. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansens. I come from a come to you

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Speaker 1: from a virtual room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. All right, the draft is now forty eight

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Speaker 1: hours away. Thank god. I have I have an idea.

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Speaker 1: I have a product pitch. I think I know you're

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Speaker 1: gonna love it. Mark, Okay, I think you'll like it too. Um.

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Speaker 1: Game pass Okay, and this might actually exist. Game Pass

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Speaker 1: A game in forty. You know everybody loves that. He

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Speaker 1: used to be Game in thirty. Mark, I know both

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Speaker 1: you and West. That was a sensitive subject. Um. Some

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Speaker 1: people like the draft more than other people. Me. I

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Speaker 1: love like certain subplots around a draft. I like the

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Speaker 1: how things shake out after the draft. But the draft

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Speaker 1: itself is not the easiest watch for me. Draft in

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Speaker 1: forty give me the first round with go all through

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Speaker 1: the picks, give me a little bit of the analysis

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Speaker 1: from our team and some highlights, um, and then any

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Speaker 1: other drama and then you. Instead of a three or

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Speaker 1: four hour exercise, I could just do whatever I want

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Speaker 1: on my Thursday night and then plug in and watch

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Speaker 1: draft in forty like, what am I actually missing? Uh?

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Speaker 1: In fact, what am I gaining a part of my

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Speaker 1: life back? Well, well, so let's start here. You're missing nothing, um.

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Speaker 1: And I love this. It was even this morning that

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Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, you know, this is a

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Speaker 1: King has No Clothes scenario because we can hype up

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Speaker 1: the draft all we want. And I think the process

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Speaker 1: and the lead up um, and they're intrigue around certain

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Speaker 1: But um, let's be real, it is um. It is

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Speaker 1: used as a television pick. And Mark said in Criss

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Speaker 1: Crossed Applesauce in front of the Radio, No, no, but

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Speaker 1: I mean they didn't spread it out over like you know,

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Speaker 1: an incredibly ponderous long television event. Um. But now you

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Speaker 1: know they've done that even more now. I mean remember

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Speaker 1: Mike MAYOCKX, UM, I thought appropriate annoyance, um when there

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Speaker 1: was like a baboon um like the cults pick in

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Speaker 1: they do have that option. I wouldn't be surprised. I

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Speaker 1: think it would. It would be heartbreaking for most of

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Speaker 1: the country that loves the draft because I think to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people I've talked to, so many like

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Speaker 1: Draft Night is better than any game all year, and

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Speaker 1: they want the whole thing. It would be like the

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Speaker 1: same way you'd feel about, you know, the a Jets

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Speaker 1: playoff game versus watching condensed or even worse worse than that.

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Speaker 1: So people want to eat it up. I do love

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Speaker 1: Draft Night. I don't If you could give me the

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Speaker 1: last two months in forty that's what I would go for.

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Speaker 1: Give me everything I need to know from the last

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Speaker 1: two months of draft coverage in forty as a condensed

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Speaker 1: um signing up for that. But I love I love

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Speaker 1: like Draft one. The most fantastical thing anyone has said

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Speaker 1: don't even know what that is anyway, that long ago.

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Speaker 1: What do we got? I mean, it's one of the

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Speaker 1: longest droughts in football now about over a decade. But

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Speaker 1: blood about to come out of your ears. They're gonna change.

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Speaker 1: I just thought about this to last week we met.

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Speaker 1: I was saying, how you know, the way society is now,

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Speaker 1: Mr Irrelevant is not going to be lasting. Is a

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Speaker 1: name a monker because it's gonna be deemed insensitive. They're

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Speaker 1: just gonna make him Mr Relevant and then give him

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Speaker 1: a little blue ribbon with his parade. Mr Brave? How

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Speaker 1: brave you to be the last? I can't I want

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Speaker 1: this sandwich? Do we have the sandwich Undrrelevant? Yeah? The

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Speaker 1: sandwich wager is and by the way, go get my lunch.

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Speaker 1: check it out. The wager is in the next five years,

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Speaker 1: Mr Irrelevant gets scrubbed uh from NFL dot com and

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Speaker 1: in general as a cultural thing around the draft, to

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Speaker 1: That is my prediction in five years. And if it's

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Speaker 1: it's a five sandwich prop Greg, I'll give you five

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Speaker 1: All right, nice show coming up, Carbs back with us.

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Speaker 1: Chase Goodbread, one of NFL dot COM's great college football

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Speaker 1: writer and reporters, is going to talk to us. He's

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Speaker 1: he's embedded down there in Alabama. UM and UM, you know,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan digging in in his uh Monday press conference

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Speaker 1: But the Shanahan's have always um kind of had their

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Speaker 1: to buy out the jerseys and drop him over, drop

428
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Speaker 1: him over an orphanage or something like Alvin Cook said

429
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: his would cost one point five million, and he was like,

430
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Speaker 1: nohing and finally in the news and this was interesting

431
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: to me, But also I have to be honest, be fuddling. Uh,

432
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,479
Speaker 1: the Chiefs tight end Sean Culkin um I imagine no

433
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: relation to mcaulay and here and the rest of the

434
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: Culkin gang. Uh. He announced via Twitter that he will

435
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Speaker 1: be the first NFL player to convert all of his

436
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: salary to bitcoin and culkin. He doesn't have a guaranteed

437
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: roster spot with Kansas City, but if he could become

438
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,239
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's backup, uh, he would be paid dollars by

439
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and U s dollars, but in turn will

440
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 1: convert that to bitcoin, and you know, you got bitcoin

441
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: and you got an f T and all this stuff.

442
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes either it's me not having any type of economics background,

443
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: or be just getting older and just being a little disconnected.

444
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: This stuff confuses me. So I decided this would be

445
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: a good time to introduce a new micro segment I

446
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: call it micro seg on the pod called Money on

447
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: Money Hit. Bitcoin is a currency, so if you're on

448
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: boards and your own currency trading, think of it as

449
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: a dollar. I think probably the better way to run

450
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: a parallel is gold. Right, if you own gold, you

451
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 1: don't you kind of own the physical gold itself. I

452
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Speaker 1: suppose you could figure out a way to get your

453
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Speaker 1: hands on it, but really you own um the idea

454
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: of gold. You loan shares of gold UM and you

455
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: can trade in gold. A lot of people have gold

456
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: to balance out their portfolio to protect against um different

457
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: directions of inflation or a volatile market. You know, gold

458
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: has been around for what five thousand years as an anchor. Basically,

459
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: what Sean Fulcan is gonna do is get paid in

460
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Speaker 1: whatever his regular paycheck, and then he's just gonna take

461
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: that that paycheck to a place like coin base or

462
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: where some particular market base that trades in bitcoin, and

463
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 1: he's going to purchase the pitcoin. I think that would

464
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: be no different than him taking that paycheck and saying

465
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my entire paycheck into the smp UM

466
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Speaker 1: or I'm gonna put my entire paycheck into the dial

467
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Speaker 1: either their NaSTA. Seaun Culton, I'm assuming is trying to

468
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: angle for some sort of endorsement deal or to be

469
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Speaker 1: part of a company that would be interested in hiring

470
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Speaker 1: him um to promote and sell the idea of bitcoin.

471
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Speaker 1: There it is, well, I mean, it would be smarter.

472
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,239
Speaker 1: Just now, I think we all just got a little bit.

473
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's like, it would be more ironic if

474
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: Matt money Smith actually were bad with money or had

475
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: no interest in money. But the problem is he I'm like,

476
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Speaker 1: what Netflix show should I watch tonight? Like, and he's

477
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: like digging into like deep portfolios and stuff. There's different

478
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Speaker 1: types of people and different he added, there's his portfolio

479
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 1: um consists of a sizeable portion of it has some

480
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: type of Bitcoin leaning. So money is money on money

481
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 1: is a segment that's on fire already because you just

482
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Speaker 1: know it's come from somebody that lives it. I mean,

483
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: his name is money. I mean, I don't know how

484
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Speaker 1: this isn't already a part of his life. How he's

485
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Speaker 1: not getting paid to do this. I'm like CNBC or whatever,

486
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: what is the financial one? It's yes, I believe it's that.

487
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. I think that was very informative,

488
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: and it's good you asked him. He gave like a

489
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Speaker 1: very education educated answer, because I think that's part of

490
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Speaker 1: part of the problem with bitcoin. There's just not enough people,

491
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, who will talk to you, talk to you

492
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: about at it, like even when you don't want to

493
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: hear about it. It's just like I just wish like

494
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Speaker 1: the bitcoin people would be a little more aggressive and

495
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: like talking to everyone about it. You know, it's just

496
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: like I need to hear more. So let's come out

497
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: come at us. Gregg is, Greg Is, I don't know

498
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: where he's coming from sometimes with the arrows that he

499
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: slings in all directions. So here's where I'm coming from.

500
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Speaker 1: The worst people on Twitter are the ones talking about bitcoin.

501
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: That's where I'm coming from. I can find some people

502
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: that can compete with that. That's an auto auto mute.

503
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: That's an auto mute. All right, that's what's happening. And

504
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I had no idea Greg that that

505
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: you had that take. But maybe there's some really good

506
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: people out there also that are they're they're probably good people,

507
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like it's just like a religion.

508
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: It's I'm all for people doing whatever makes them money

509
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: and happy, but when they're pushing it on you aggressively

510
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: all the world, right, well, that there's a lot of

511
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: carry over there. There's a lot of carry over there. Yeah,

512
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: it's like this limey stockbrokers of the eighties are now

513
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: like these type of people that are in this advanced

514
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: currency if you will, like you're not you don't understand money.

515
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm in the future and you're in the past. It's like, okay, bro, condemn.

516
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: We'll put our pants on one like at a a time.

517
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: See now I'm on gregside. Now that what I don't understand.

518
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm not against you. I just it's a world I

519
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: don't I'm a child in the in those realms. All right,

520
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. All right, man, Pink Floyd.

521
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: That's a good band. You know. It's another good band,

522
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: the Drive By Truckers. And when I think of the

523
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Speaker 1: Drive By Truckers, I think of one man, Chase good Bread,

524
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Speaker 1: and we welcome him in. Now to the Around the

525
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. There he is. I call him Carbs. But

526
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: this is a dude that eats during draft time. He

527
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: eats all the knowledge and then delivers it to us.

528
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 1: What's up, Carbs? I don't know where I was going

529
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Speaker 1: with that. Good to be back on here. How are

530
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: you all good? It's been a while. What do you

531
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: have it's been a while. Yeah, it's about annual with

532
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: you guys. But I enjoyed every year, so for for sure. Yeah,

533
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the draft, probably gonna not not

534
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: in Cleveland this year. I've been some years, not others.

535
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: This is a night year and so uh, I'm happy

536
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,239
Speaker 1: to fire up to grill and do it that way, right,

537
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: nice beautiful Carb is a man that knows how to

538
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: have fun down there in Alabama. And you know, cards,

539
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of fascinating symmetry here with these last two drafts.

540
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: So of course, last year, uh to ah goes fifth

541
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: overall in the first round. Um, Henry Ruggs goes twelve

542
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: to the Raiders, Jerry Judy to the Broncos. So all

543
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: Alabama products products. This year, you're here in mac Jones

544
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: as a top five pick in the first round, and

545
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: then you have Davonte Smith and Jalen Waddle that are

546
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: projected to be fron half of the first round guys

547
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: as well. This is pretty wild. And I know it's

548
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: a football factory down there, but this pretty hard core. Yeah.

549
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: Two quarterbacks and two two quarterbacks and four receivers across

550
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: two years, um, all maybe in the I guess in

551
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: the top half of the first round. It is. It

552
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: is pretty crazy. The the receiving corps that too have

553
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: had at Alabama. At one point, Jaden Wattle was the

554
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: number four right because he was he was stuck behind

555
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: Devonte Smith and Rugs and Judy. It's I don't think

556
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: I'll ever see a deeper college receiving corps in my lifetime.

557
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: I really don't than those four. Uh and Smith and Waddle.

558
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: You know, that's been a fun discussion for a lot

559
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: of people. Who's who's gonna get picked first, Who's gonna

560
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: be the better pro and all that. I like Waddle

561
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: a little bit more than Smith as a pro, which

562
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: which kind of cuts against the grain because Smith is

563
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: the one that had a monster year. Uh And I

564
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: think Smith will be a good pro. I don't buy

565
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: into this wait stuff, you know, him being two small.

566
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: I think that's largely kind of media creation. But I

567
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: do think while I was gonna make a little a

568
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: little bit better pro, he's he's a faster, he's faster,

569
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 1: he's he's got more shake and bake in the open field.

570
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: He's crazy good as a return guy. Um, if you

571
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: wanted to, if you wanted a comp from me on

572
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: Jayden Wattle, I would say to you, if you remember

573
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: Dante Hall, the kicking specialist, the return specialist with the Chiefs.

574
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: If Dante Hall had been an all Pro receiver along

575
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: with being an all pro return guy. That's what Jayden

576
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: Wattle is gonna look like in the NFL. To me,

577
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: m that's why I still not ruling out him going

578
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: to Miami and six. This this trade they made and

579
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: some talk that um that they'll take a tackle there

580
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: makes like more sense. But I you know, you look

581
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: around people kind of in people you know they wager

582
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: on this. We can talk about this now and in

583
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: this new NFL like the idea of like Wattle or

584
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: Smith who goes first, it would not surprise me at all. Carbs,

585
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: if the a lot, if a lot of NFL teams

586
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: agree with everything you just said in that because of

587
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: that Wattle actually goes off the board first, it won't

588
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: surprise me a bit. And and it's a shame that

589
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: he busted his foot pretty bad against Tennessee and missed

590
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: most of his last year at Alabama. But there's lots

591
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: of film on him, even even when he was a

592
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: number four his freshman year, which I guess would have

593
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: been two thousand and eighteen. Uh, he was you can

594
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: see flashes that this this guy is gonna be a pro.

595
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. He's just too fast. He's

596
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: too quick, he's too good. His sophomore year he was.

597
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: He was dynamite as well, although again behind Rugs and Judy,

598
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: he didn't get a ton of catches, so uh, not

599
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: a lot of mileage on him, I guess when you

600
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: look at it that way. But for sure, he's a

601
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: he's a special athlete, and I think he's gonna be

602
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: making big plays and and returning and returning punch and

603
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: kickoffs and in a big way right away. You know,

604
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: Carbs um Tomorrow around this time, my mock draft goes

605
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: live before the Nation's the eyes of the nations, so

606
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: there'll be some surprises there, but like you know, not

607
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: surprising a lot of Alabama players. Um. Patrick's certain. I'm

608
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: not going to reveal to you or anyone else where

609
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: I placed him, um, but it feels organic, it feels right.

610
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: Is he the most short thing? Could you make an

611
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: argument that he's the most short thing in this entire

612
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: first round? By the way, I want the audience to

613
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: know that we know Chase good Bread very well from

614
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: the years back at different events, but not on a

615
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: day to day basis. We don't work together, So I

616
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: don't know if Carbs had a very like straight faced

617
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if he thinks Marks being dead serious

618
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: about the mock draft uh and was taking in Strider

619
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: if he knows that was all in jest. But either way,

620
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: it's it's funny to me. I like it now, I

621
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: get it. I get it. The world is waiting with

622
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: bated breath for Sessler's for the tiniest of minutia about

623
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: Sessler's mock Why would why would they not? Absolutely, I'm

624
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: gonna predicts going to the Cowboys. You know now, he'll

625
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: have to change it if he did that, But I'm

626
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: gonna predict that him. Sergeant is a safe pick though, Yeah,

627
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: no doubt he's. Yeah. I got a chance to watch

628
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: him at his pro day up close. That was on Marche,

629
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: and yeah, you could tell the scouts were buzzing about him.

630
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: His vertical jump, the broad jump, all that athletic stuff.

631
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: He ran a strong forty or dash. I think his

632
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: forty was in the four fours. He's got the tape.

633
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: He started for Nick saban as a freshman, which tells

634
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: you a lot because Nick saban Is is a defensive back.

635
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: He's not only a defensive coach, he's a defensive backs coach.

636
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: He calls himself the highest paid dv g A in

637
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: college football. UH. He's always with the dvs and practice

638
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: and he's been a big startan fan from from day one.

639
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: UH has worked him some early in his career. He

640
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: actually worked a little bit at Nickel in that slot

641
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: corner spot, and then he's he he ended up being

642
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: more of a full time guy on the outside. He's

643
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: plenty big enough to play outside, but if an NFL

644
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: club wanted to drop him inside, he could handle that.

645
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: To you. I'm fascinated though about these teams that are

646
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: taking cornerbacks early and teams are like, okay, that upgrades

647
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: that position, that's a safe pick. When was last cornerback

648
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: to come into the league and make a difference like

649
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: that is a tough position right now to come into

650
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: the league and be good right away. I'm not saying

651
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: that they don't eventually, but it wasn't last it wasn't

652
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: the year before. Yeah, that's though, So that's that's tricky

653
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: when when you're drafting top ten, certain seems really like

654
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: a safe pick and it's exciting, but I do wonder,

655
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, towards the top of the draft, if that's

656
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: gonna affect any team probably not because everyone needs cornerbacks,

657
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: but it just seems like it's a trend right now.

658
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: Linebackers are a little similar to like guys that have

659
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: to cover. They're getting they're getting flayed, like like, no

660
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: matter who you are, if you're coming out from college,

661
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: maybe it's just a two or three year thing that

662
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: it's been something on my radar that none of these

663
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: cornerbacks have have had a great transition. Curtan seems like

664
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: a unique guy in that he he knows the game

665
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: so well. Maybe you could avoid that. Yeah, for sure,

666
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 1: the cornerback spot you used to you don't hear about

667
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: it so much anymore, But it used to be if

668
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: you if you get drafted as a corner, you can't

669
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: cut it at corner, right, we just move you to safety. Well,

670
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: safety is not nearly as valuable as a position at

671
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: corner anymore. The separation of value to me in those

672
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: positions is widened, and so you know, if you're if

673
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: you're a bust of a corner as a first round pick,

674
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: even if you do move to safety and flourish a

675
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: little bit, it's it's not the same as having a

676
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: guy who can lock down a big time receiver on

677
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: the outside, not nearly the same. Hey, Carbs, I want

678
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: to get back to this draft and specifically some SEC sleepers,

679
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: because I know that's your area of extreme expertise. But

680
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: I do want to touch on the Alabama class um

681
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: and to a first and foremost, because there's so much,

682
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: so much speculation around him, how he's gonna look in

683
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: year two and how the Dolphins are potentially putting him

684
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: in a spot where he's gonna have huge upgrades around him, uh,

685
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: in an Alabama type set up in terms of skill

686
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: players potentially, Um, how did he look to you last

687
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: year in Miami? And then I'm curious also about Rugs

688
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: and Judy, who had very kind of up and down

689
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: rookie years themselves. Yeah, they did, for sure to a

690
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: struggle at times, There's no doubt about it. I think

691
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 1: that club weapons he yeah, he he did. He did.

692
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna say the hip was was

693
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: was a problem for him necessarily. I think they just

694
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: they got to get more weapons in there for him.

695
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if they're Alabama guys, great, if

696
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: it's somebody else, you know, if if if it's Caadarius

697
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Tony at Florida. Whoever it is, Uh, get some people

698
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: in there for him who can who can lie it

699
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: up the secondary. I think you'll see a lot of

700
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: improvement from him. Rugs and Judy were up and down

701
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: for sure. Judy had a lot of drops with the Broncos,

702
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: was never drops were never a problem for him at

703
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: the college level, So that certainly surprised me. He was

704
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: never really on the same page. I don't think with

705
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: with Drew Lock. I saw one particular Broncos game, uh

706
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: late in the season where we're him in a lot

707
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: just just could not connect at all. Lots of frustration

708
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: for sure, on on both ends of that, and and

709
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: and Rugs. You know, he just didn't He just didn't

710
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: get enough balls in his hands. And so I think

711
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: he's got some developing to do himself. But you could

712
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: you could still there's flashes of explosiveness with Rugs that

713
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: you can't deny. He had one game for the Raiders

714
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: where he was two for one eighteen. He had another

715
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: game from the Raiders where he was three for eighty four.

716
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: So he can get downfield if he can get the

717
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: ball in his hand with with two uh out circling

718
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: back to two of there. I think one thing that

719
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: jumped out to me was how much dink and dunk

720
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: was in his game and how much do you like

721
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: at Alabama? Was he a guy that you believe saw

722
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: was like a guy was attacking downfield? And you think

723
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: if they do surround him with the right guys, he

724
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: changes the way he played his game because he was

725
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: not a lot of fun to watch last year, to

726
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: be totally honest, right right, he can absolutely go downfield.

727
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of velocity on that arm. I

728
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: think he's I think he's the most talented Alabama quarterback

729
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: i've I've I've ever seen frankly Um. So you know,

730
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: he doesn't like to check it down, but I think

731
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: in Miami he probably had to. Was told to, was coach,

732
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: to what have you. But uh, you know, there's there

733
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: There's no question the guy can push the ball down

734
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: the field. Now that the differences to at Alabama, he

735
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: could hit a slant or a screen or some kind

736
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: of short pass to one of these four receivers we've

737
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: been talking about and that will turn into a fifty

738
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: yard touchdown. So um, he got a lot of big

739
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: plays at Alabama through that they had a they had

740
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: a couple of slant plays that that nobody could stop.

741
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: They were rpo plays. But but they they ate ownes

742
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: of yard Is doing that kind of stuff. But in

743
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: terms of zip on the ball and being able to

744
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: thread a needle, you know in the intermedi and the

745
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: eat your intermediate level, he can do that. They're they're

746
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: so fascinating because in theory there they were in position

747
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: they still are at six to take another quarterback comparing

748
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: him to Mac Jones, give me a couple of comparisons

749
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: him to Mac Jones. Who do you think was a

750
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: better prospect? They think they're probably more similar than people think.

751
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: And and Naza Harris compared to the running backs that

752
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: have come out of Alabama lately. Because I'm wondering if

753
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: any running backs get taken in the first round. There's

754
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: a lot of buzz that the Steelers may take him Harris,

755
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: but it's also seems possible that like no running backs

756
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: go in the first round. Yeah, it could be. I

757
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: liked in terms of just straight talent. I like to

758
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: uh more than Mac Jones. Jones had a great year

759
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: and no doubt about it too, is definitely the better

760
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: athlete I think two has got more zip on the ball.

761
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: I think he's just as accurate. I think he makes

762
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: decisions just as quick as Mac Jones and so uh.

763
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: If I was grading him as prospects, I would have

764
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: two uh higher than Jones. Uh for sure, Harris. You know,

765
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: he's an interesting case. He's not the fastest guy in

766
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: the world. As productive as he was at Alabama, he

767
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: didn't break a bunch of fifty and sixty yard runs

768
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: at all. Uh. He's and he's an exciting player with

769
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: some great athletic skills. Uh. But but you really, I

770
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: don't in four years at out and all this time

771
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: at Alabama, I'm not sure he broke a run more

772
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: than fifty yards and so and he never ran a

773
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: forty yard dash, by the way, no combine, he didn't.

774
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: He didn't run the forty at his pro day. He

775
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: had an injury through the spring that he was kind

776
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: of rehabbing a little bit. So I think that's a

777
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: question for some clubs, for sure. But the guy can

778
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: catch the ball, he can go between the tackles, he

779
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: can make people miss. He's big for a guy who's

780
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: so light on his feet. You know, he weighs two

781
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds and in the open field sometimes

782
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: he looks like weighs about one nineties. So uh. Tons

783
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: of of athleticism for sure, but not a game breaker,

784
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: not in the NFL. He he won't get loose from

785
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: his own twenty and put it in the end zone.

786
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: He's not He's not that fast, you know, Carbs. Uh,

787
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: we haven't seen you since we lost our friend West.

788
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: And when I think about West and when it came

789
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: to you know, he maybe not have been the biggest

790
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: college football guy of all time, but he was a

791
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: tape watcher and he was a lone wolf. Like the

792
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: whole society would say this player is looking great and

793
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: he tells you, no, he's not, and he'd be right

794
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: so often. So I wonder if there's um a guy

795
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: out there that you're kind of a lone wolf on

796
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: where you know, the the whole college side and the

797
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: draft knicks and all the stuff we're saying we love

798
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: or hate this guy, and you just don't you feel differently? Um?

799
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: And secondly, like you guys were both big green egg fans,

800
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Like what is the perfect kind of big green egg

801
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: um project for it? Maybe not the first night of

802
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: the draft, but like those that long weekend that follows

803
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: these endless picks that go on for weeks. Time to

804
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: cook something? What would you be cooking? Yeah, if I

805
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: had the time, him would be a would be a brisket.

806
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: But a brisket is just I'll answer the second question first,

807
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: just a more fun question. But uh, brisket. I love

808
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: to do it, but but you gotta babysit it for

809
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: for a long long time, ten twelve hours. Sometimes probably

810
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: not ideal because I'm actually gonna be working during the draft,

811
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: so uh in order to juggle uh nfl dot com

812
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: draft weekend duties and the grill, I'm thinking something hot

813
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: and fast, you know, steaks, something something like that that

814
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: can get done quick. As for an SEC sleeper, somebody,

815
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: I think somebody, I think that that West would have liked.

816
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: I'll give you Seth Williams, a wide receiver from Auburn

817
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: who's probably gonna be picked on the last day of

818
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: the draft. I don't know why. The guy's hands are unbelievable.

819
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: He's unbelievable in traffic. He can he can make that

820
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: back shoulder catch. He's got great body control, you know.

821
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the fastest guy in the world.

822
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: Maybe that was the issue. I don't know what he ran,

823
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: but uh, Seth Williams is gonna make some team. Uh

824
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: really fine third day pick. I think anybody else in

825
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: your sec sleeper watch. I like Tray Smith, the the

826
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: offensive lineman from from Tennessee. Uh, he's gonna be a

827
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: mid round guy. I think he's got a whole lot

828
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: of potential. I thought he looked pretty good at the

829
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl down in Mobile. He's had some medical issues.

830
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: He had some long issues actually that kept him off

831
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: the field and hampered him early in his career. He

832
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: got the medical clearances to get back on the field

833
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: for the balls and uh it was was dominant pretty

834
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: much the last couple of years. If you go back

835
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: and watch twenty nineteen tape of of Tennessee against South Carolina,

836
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: he handles uh um, he handles the slipping slip in

837
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: my mind, the defensive tackle from South Carolina that went

838
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: first round last year. Thank you, Thank you, Greg he

839
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: nominating kin law Um for the most part in twenty nineteen.

840
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: If you go back and look at kin laws last

841
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: year at South Carolina, which which was nineteen nobody blocked

842
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: and Mike Smith did mm hmm. That's why they call

843
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: him Chase good Bread. Well, his mom called him Chase

844
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: good brushy game in the name. We call him Carbs,

845
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: and you always deliver the goodness, uh, Carbs, and we

846
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: hope to see you uh down the line. We've all

847
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: been separated for all long, far too long now, So

848
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: whenever we do see you again, perhaps we will celebrate

849
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: over a big green egg or something. Who knows looking

850
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: forward to it. Fellas take it easy right there, he goes. See,

851
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: we have we have these sparrows that are helping us

852
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: out landsier line. Yesterday Chase good Bread uh. Today tomorrow

853
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: we have a special guest, someone that has a lot

854
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: of skin in the game, I'll say, when it comes

855
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: to college football. Uh. And and that person we'll be

856
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: able to hopefully give it, hopefully give us some information.

857
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: I want to touch on something that just kind of

858
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: a follow up point before we say goodbye and again

859
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: remember the Mark Sessler mock draft. I want to touch

860
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: on that as well, is coming up tomorrow. Um. We

861
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: were nominated, of course for a Cyclops Award, and um

862
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people wanted to know whether we came

863
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: out on top. I believe it's actually the Synopsis Award

864
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: Awards show. I don't know, I have no idea actually,

865
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we were not nominated in the

866
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: Innovators and Disruptors category. I was fine with that, but

867
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: Best Podcast Series Series felt like a lock for us.

868
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean we were we got a nice little show here,

869
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: but we didn't win. They gave it to Chris Russo,

870
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: of all people digging up the passed with Chris Russo.

871
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, um. And so we

872
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: we take another l and it is starting to feel

873
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: like with these awards, and we are of course best

874
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: New Sports Podcast. Apple Podcast two thousand thirteen got that

875
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: in our back pocket. We got the what's the award

876
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: that was stolen by our producer Spotify or stitch Stitcher

877
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: got your stitcher, not not the current producer. Um. But

878
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: now they're starting a bit of a Marcus Susan Lucci

879
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: thing going on for us, and I I just I

880
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: don't think it's right. I don't think it's fair. I

881
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: think we've got a nice little show here and it's

882
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: time to start getting some hardware to and be rewarded

883
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: for it. Well, it's the one thing I'd say is

884
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't sting as much for me to

885
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: lose to a a friend of the show, but a

886
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: childhood hero. I don't know if I We've talked about

887
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: this a billion times. I don't know if we'd be

888
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: here if it weren't for Chris Russo. Russo even know

889
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: that he won the Cyclops That's I guess my issue. Well,

890
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be sure of that. I mean I would

891
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: suggest he maybe someone told him and he thought rate

892
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: and you know, moved on with this day. We might

893
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: have been a little more zeroed in. But um, you

894
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: know it that it irritates me on on other levels. UM,

895
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: I will think about it. Um, but I don't know

896
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: how to Greg help me out here. I'm not sure

897
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: what it doesn't care, it matters very much. I'm rewatching

898
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: the Last Dance right now? What had When was it?

899
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: It happened a few days back. Um, I was watching

900
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: rewatching the Last Dance the Jordan dock and it's like

901
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 1: when B. J. Armstrong um hit a dagger shot too

902
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: and the Hornets beat the Bulls in Game one of

903
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: like the ninety eight Eastern Conference semifinals, and then Jordan's like, oh,

904
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ruin your life now. Um, I have

905
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: that in me when it comes to these awards shows.

906
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: In fact, I declare vengeance on the entire awards industry.

907
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: Related to the podcast, I just think it's time to

908
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: stop being Mr. Nice guy and maybe we start getting

909
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: some trophies. Well, yeah, the money dropped today was you

910
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: know that we're filled with upside, but our our track

911
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: record which show we're we're a little more like them.

912
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: What what's your guy's name? Landon Dickerson of this draft?

913
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: Like we got a lot of hardware early, you know,

914
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: but we're just kind of plugging along right now. You know,

915
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: not getting Randerson is going to make someone very happy,

916
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: a team very happy. The rock solid man in the pivot,

917
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: great leadership, great player. I am tracking him hard. I'm

918
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: gonna actually check in on Landing. Um wait, did he

919
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: go to Alabama? Did I'm with on asking Chase about

920
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson? Oh no, I actually, you know what, because

921
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: I was organized. We organize our questions. Unless you're some

922
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: sort of savant maybe, but I'd like to you know what,

923
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: know what, I'm asking carves ahead of time, and I

924
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: decided to not even touch Landon Dickerson. I assumed that Dan,

925
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: you would have like three or four of questions about

926
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: his person brutal. I'm gonna I'm gonna hit him up privately.

927
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson, Who's my favorite back? We could call him

928
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: back right now? What happens, because I mean, after Zack Wilson,

929
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: He's he He's the only guy that I'm really tracking

930
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: in this draft. Um, he's in my draft in forty

931
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: um round up, um in my mock I have the

932
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: Jets taken Dickerson. Landon Dickerson at number two. So you

933
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: can be sure that you get your guy, don't worry.

934
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: So this is and yes, so that's what's going on.

935
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: Vengeance declared on the awards industry. U'm not I'm not

936
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: being a nice guy about it anymore. I'm demanding what

937
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: we demand to be taken seriously. That's that's my message

938
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: to the award industry and Mark, I know you demand

939
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: to be taken seriously in the mock draft game. And

940
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: I've noticed this, there's a little bit of an edginess

941
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: with Greg toward your mock draft, almost like he's trying

942
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: to kind of deflate it a little bit. And I

943
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: want to say I personally, I'm not comfortable with it

944
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: because I know it's sneaky. Does mean a lot to

945
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: you to be accepted, uh industry wise as a serious

946
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: football man. And I think when you rise up in

947
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: an industry, you're going to UH, You're going to experience

948
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: a wide range of emotions from the people around you.

949
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: So you know, I think Greg is watching Um, someone

950
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: that he works with, take off like a rocket into

951
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: the draft space, and I think that's uncomfortable for him

952
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: because probably he thinks I should be the one. I'm Greg,

953
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: I should be the one doing the mock draft. Why

954
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: is this clown Mark Um? You know, you know, in

955
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: charge of this area. But you know I got there first.

956
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: And it's not just getting their first, Greg, it's excelling

957
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: at it. Um. I was. I did a marvelous job

958
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: last year, and I planned to absolutely blow the community

959
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: away with what I prepare for you this time around. No,

960
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Mark, I mean I think you you

961
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: looked around the football landscape and you saw a need

962
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you saw like a hole

963
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: in the market place in you were like, this needs

964
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: another Mark draft, This like a mock draft. You know,

965
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,959
Speaker 1: during draft week we need another one. I'll just say

966
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: one thing, uh, Mark, just because I don't want you to,

967
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: because I know you have a lot on your plate

968
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: already and I don't want you to be have more

969
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: anxiety ahead of the mock draft to reveal tomorrow on

970
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast. But just because you got

971
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: there first doesn't mean you're safe. Because Greg just ran

972
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: up a column a couple of weeks ago called power Rankings,

973
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: which was a little shot across my bow. So just

974
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: know that there could be a Rosenthal mock draft. There

975
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: will never be another. There will never be another draft. No,

976
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: that's instructed, Dan you, Thank you. I will I'll mull that.

977
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, big show come out tomorrow. You

978
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: heard it. We've been teasing it. Thank you to Chase

979
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: good Bread. Uh. One more show tomorrow ahead of the draft,

980
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: and then we dig in with a big Thursday night show.

981
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: So make sure you tune in all week because we

982
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: got this thing covered, we got it unlocked. They don't

983
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: give us trophies, but really the only trophy we need

984
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: is you, the listeners coming back every show. That's not true.

985
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 1: I want the physical ment. Yes, all right, this stand

986
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: Hanson signing up four Quiet Storm, gil Boss Ricky Hollywood

987
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: behind the virtual blass until Wednesday. Keep the Ball