1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: job in Strickland. I'm an executive producer with iHeart Radio. 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: And how the tech are you? It is time for 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: us to listen to a classic episode of tech Stuff. 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: This one published April. It is part one of a 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: two part series. So that's a spoiler for next week, 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: right anyway, this one is titled A Series of Tubes 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: Part one. Enjoy. So one of the cool things that 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: you brought to light is that, uh, you know that 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: these are not just little systems that are used within 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: like that bank single building to take your bank receipt 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: to the teller when you don't feel like getting out 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: of your car, right, That these actually used to be 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: and in some cases maybe still are much more senses. Yeah. See, 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: there used to be these huge networks of tubes buried 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: beneath the cities that let people send messages to each 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: other faster than ever before. Yeah, I've heard of this 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: the Internet. It's a it's a series of tubes. Uh no, no, 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: before before the Internet, our ponet but that was only 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: like three computers and it was it was in Wow. Yeah, 22 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: pneumatic tubes date back quite a ways. And so yeah, 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: when when Lauren said we're going to talk about a 24 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: series of tubes, I thought we were going to talk 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: about the whole you know, good old Senator Ted from 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: Alaska talking about how the Internet is a series of tubes, which, 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: by the way, just for the record, I think is 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: a decent analogy. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was. I mean, 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: it is funny, but it was. And also, as it 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: turns out, some telecom cables are currently being housed in 31 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: old pneumatic tubes. So it is a series of tubes. 32 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Yeah awesome. So what exactly is a pneumatic tube. Well, 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: it is eight hipeline that uses air pressure to move 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: a canister from one point to another. Okay, that seems 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: pretty simple. So like it seems pretty simple, but wait, 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: there's more, uh there? Yeah, I mean, these things have 37 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: come a very long way as technology has advanced up, 38 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: motors have advanced. Motors started existing, like like, electricity wasn't 39 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: really a thing when tube started up. Computers happened, right, 40 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: And actually you might think, well, computers would end up, 41 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, making the whole purpose of these things obsolete, 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: but that's not the case. In fact, there's still very 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: high tech pneumatic tube systems that are at play in 44 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: various locations for good reasons. And it turns out that 45 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: the computers aren't necessary elements in that in order to 46 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: be kind of like traffic control. So it's kind of 47 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: cool that this thing that we would normally think was 48 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: replaced by computers is actually complementing them in specific use cases. Obviously, 49 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: if you want to send a message to your friend 50 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: across town, you're more likely to either drop a letter 51 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: in the mail or much more likely to send the 52 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: message Kingdom on face. But there are many important uses 53 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: for pneumatic tubes. Um. We will get into many of 54 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: those later. First, let us talk specifically about how pneumatic 55 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: tubes work. Yeah, let's talk about the physics what is 56 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: going on with a pneumatic tube? And so walk me 57 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: through the you wrote. You've you've described an excellent way 58 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: of thinking through this so that we have a logical 59 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: progression to get to the actual mechanics of pneumatic tubes. Okay, 60 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: So pneumatic, in case you don't know, means works via 61 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: pressurized gas. Basically. Um, So the air around us seems 62 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: pretty thin, right, but it's actually a soup. It's actually 63 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: a liquid made up of lightweight atoms and particles like 64 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: nitrogen and oxygen and argon and carp dioxide and ozone 65 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: and dust bunnies and et cetera. Yeah, yeah, uh, And 66 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: that soup is at pretty much a constant density and 67 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: pressure around us while we're walking around on Earth's surface, 68 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: though it's a little bit thinner. The further away from 69 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: sea level you get, right, Right, the higher you climb 70 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: on a mountain, for example, the less dense the air. 71 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Thus you have let lower air pressure at those altitudes. Right, 72 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: And it's useful to think about that because one great 73 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: way of thinking about air pressure and how it helps 74 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: stuff work is by thinking of how your ears pop 75 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: when you go up in a really tall elevator or 76 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: or up a mountain, or up in an airplane. Um, 77 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: And that's because your your ears pop because of the 78 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: density of the air outside of your body being lower 79 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: than the density of the air in your ears. Okay, 80 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: You've got this little tube of air in your in 81 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: your head called the station tube, and it lets your 82 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: it lets your ear drum vibrate, which is important for 83 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: your ear dry to function. Right, That's what allows you 84 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: to interpret sound right, because sound is a physical uh phenomenon. 85 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: It vibrates the ear drum, which makes some celia go, well, yeah, 86 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: that signals the brain that exactly. Yeah, we're just gonna 87 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: re enact once more with feeling line by line. But no, 88 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: it it does. You know. The ear drum is what 89 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: ends up causing these other bones in your in your 90 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: ear to move in such a way that celia inside 91 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: of this one container, uh start to vibrate fluctuate, and 92 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: that sends electrical signals to your brain, which then is 93 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: interpreted as sound. So without that vibration, you don't hear. Uh. 94 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: And without this tube you wouldn't get that vibration. That 95 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: would have nothing to vibrate against. It would just be 96 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: all solid meat and that doesn't vibrate as well. Yeah yeah, 97 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean sound can travel through solids, but it's not 98 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: as effective going from air to solid then from solid 99 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: to solid, so you know it's important. So the C 100 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: station tube is shut off with muscles that are tied 101 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: into your mouth throat swallowing muscles. This is one of 102 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: those things I always thought was weird that that our 103 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: ears are connected to I mean, the human bodies. Gross y'all, 104 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: especially the sinus type system. Yeah, and that's that's why 105 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: if you swallow, you hear like a tiny little pop, 106 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: and that is the muscles of that tube opening up 107 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: and and letting a fresh supply of air in, which 108 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: is important because the air that gets into the tube 109 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: gets absorbed by the walls of the tube, and so 110 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: it needs to be replenished periodically. That's also why your 111 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: head hurts so much when when you have a cold, 112 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: because those muscles get stuffed up by gunk and you 113 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: can't replenish that air supply and everything hurt. When you're like, 114 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: I can't hear because I have a cold, it seems 115 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: because yeah, yeah, that's because the because your ear drum 116 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: literally cannot vibrate because there's not a replenishment of air 117 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: in the tube. That's kind of cool. I mean, I 118 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: had never thought of it that way. So interesting. Okay, 119 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: so all of this is a sidebar promise. We're getting 120 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: back to pneumatics. UM. So, so as you gain altitude, 121 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: the air inside of your ears starts exerting pressure on 122 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: those membranes. Um, it starts pushing because it's at that 123 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: higher density than the air outside. Um. You know, it 124 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: wants to be chill like that lower pressure air, you 125 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: never let it hang loose. Yeah, when you create this 126 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: pressure differential than there, that's where you're starting to get 127 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: that feeling of something's just kind of like you get 128 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: that ache. You can get pretty painful too, if you 129 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: especially like you know, you hear about babies and kids 130 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: having real problems because they haven't figured out how to 131 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: voluntarily open up their irustration tube. Yeah. And so when 132 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: the difference in pressure is great enough that you either 133 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: voluntarily or involuntarily open up that illustration tube, that the 134 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: sudden release of that pressurized air is pretty forceful and 135 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: creates that pop. That's when your ears go pop um. 136 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: But is just one example of pressure at work around us. Uh. 137 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: This next one that I've got for you is a 138 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: little bit more technical. Okay are you ready? Yeah? Okay, 139 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: straws like what the pig built his house out of, 140 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: drinking straws. Okay, okay, so crazy straws in my case, 141 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, sure, sure, crazy straws totally. So you're not 142 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: technically pulling liquid up through a straw. You're you're creating 143 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: an opportunity for the liquid to push itself up. So 144 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm motivating the liquid. You're motivating the liquid. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 145 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: This section that you apply with your mouth creates an 146 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: area of low pressure at the top of the straw, 147 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: which means that the relatively high pressure liquid at the 148 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: bottom of the straw pushes a sip of your drink 149 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: up into your mouth. Now, this is really interesting to 150 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: me because I talked about a similar thing with Josh 151 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Clark when we covered how toilets work, because we had 152 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: to talk about siphoning and the siphoning and uses a 153 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: similar principle and it does quire this difference in pressure 154 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: as well. So very interesting. So how does this compared 155 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: to say, pneumatic tubes. Well, it's it's basically the same thing. Um, 156 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: the the tube part is air tight like a straw, 157 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: except it has sealable hatches at either end instead of 158 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: you know straw. Bit's yeah. Um, so so you you 159 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 1: put a canister in one hatch. Yeah, it helps a 160 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: whole lot off. The canister has some kind of like 161 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: flexible skirts on either end, the concealed the interior edges 162 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: of the tube that air is not passing around around 163 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: the canister right to make it the most effective. So 164 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: you so you put your canister in there, you close 165 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: the hatch, and you press your go button. Um. Now 166 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: on the other end of the tube, pressing that button 167 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: will open up a vent and start a motor. Now, 168 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: one of two things will happen at this point, right, 169 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: So this all depends upon where the canister is in 170 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: relation to where the blower is. Right. So here's the 171 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: boring one, because because you get to take the really 172 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: cool one. Here's the boring one if the canister is 173 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: the blower side. So in other words, this is like 174 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: the blower being a fan essentially that can either blow 175 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: air into the tube or pull air out of the 176 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: tube if it's on the blower side, and the only 177 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: way to move the canster to the other end of 178 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: the tube is to blow air against the canister pushing it. 179 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: So you're increasing the air pressure on the side of 180 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: the blower and it just blows the canister across. So 181 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: this is essentially the same as when you shoot blow 182 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: darts at your coworkers, or when I say you when 183 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: I shoot blow darts at Ben bowling. Um, he has 184 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: wondered what that tingling sensation has been, and no one 185 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: tell him. But that's essentially it yeah, but if the 186 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: canisters on the opposite side, See the blower on a 187 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: pneumatic tube system typically is at just one end. You 188 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: don't have two blowers right right, And it's not um. 189 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: Especially classically, these things weren't always powerful enough to necessarily 190 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: push right. So if the canisters on the opposite end, 191 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: like I, I've sent something out now, I'm expecting it 192 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: to come back, but my blower is at the the 193 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: end where I am at, I have to I have 194 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: to find a different way to move the canster. I 195 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: can't push it by by turning the fan to blow 196 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: air into the tube. So what do I do? Then, Well, 197 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: the motor will still drive a fan down at the 198 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: other end of the tube, but but this time it 199 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: will start to pull air out of the tube, venting 200 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: it out of the tube entirely. Gotcha. Okay, this section, 201 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: just like a straw, creates a partial vacuum at that 202 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: end of the tube with the fan an area of 203 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: low pressure. So uh, you know, down down at the 204 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: canister end of the tube, the higher pressure air behind 205 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: the canister wants to expand to settle the difference, right, um, 206 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: so it will push the canister through the tube. So 207 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: the canstor is still being pushed. It's just that it's 208 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: being pushed because the air behind it is at a 209 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: higher pressure than the air in front of it, exactly. 210 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: It's so cool. So in most of these systems, when 211 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 1: the canister reaches its destination um like the end of 212 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: the tube, it will trigger a trapdoor to close behind it, 213 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: which will also cue the motor to turn off end 214 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: the vnced close, meaning that the partial vacuum that's been 215 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: created in the tube will be broken, and your buddy 216 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: at the other end can open up the hatch and 217 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: take out the canister. And that makes perfect sense because 218 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: obviously if you had continue to have that vacuum they're 219 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: opening up the hatch would have been difficult, it real hard, yeah, 220 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: because that that air pressure on the outside of the 221 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: tube is pushing against it. You know. It's this same 222 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: sort of deal. That's just one of those things that 223 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: you have to have all the lower parts in place 224 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: for the system to work properly. And the big advantage 225 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: of this sort of system is that you don't have 226 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: to connect little motors to all those canisters, right. The 227 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: individual units don't need anything, they don't need any moving parts. Yeah, 228 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: the whole. The system is a whole can have a 229 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: single well, it can have a single motor. A lot 230 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: of the time these days, they've got really complex multiple 231 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: motor things that's going on, especially if you have like 232 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: lots of potential destination systems. But but if you had 233 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: a very simple system where it was just an out 234 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: and back, you would just need one one motor turning 235 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: one fan or or you know, some people just refer 236 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: to him as air compressors, but technically you're using a 237 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: fan anything fan. Yeah. So yeah, that's really interesting. And 238 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: they are also some interesting advantages or rather design elements 239 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: that have been made to make sure that the canisters 240 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: arrived safely, because in the original systems, canisters would arrive 241 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: by basically just crashing into the opposite end of the two. Yeah, 242 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: they and they could be going pretty darn fast, depending 243 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: on how powerful that fan was. Yeah, tens of miles 244 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: an hour, which which I mean usually I say is 245 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: kind of a joke, but actually that's pretty quick. Yeah, 246 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: especially for something like if you haven't designed it just right, 247 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna you know, just just smash it up, yeah, 248 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: or it's gonna end up causing damage to the tubes, 249 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: and obviously that's a problem. So there are a couple 250 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: of different ways of slowing them down properly. One of 251 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: those uses air brakes, which is essentially just again pressurized air, 252 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: but now on the low pressure side, so that can 253 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: slow down the canister from you know, it's it's inevitable 254 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: crash towards oblivion, or bumpers like little rubber bumpers that 255 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: can come out from the sides to slow like the 256 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: way a lot of roller coaster brakes work. Huh. And 257 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: also they often have some form of switch that once 258 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: a canister passes that switch, it activates it, which then 259 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: turns off power to the blower. Uh. Now, momentum still 260 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: a thing, so you have to plan for that as well. 261 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, it's sort of like the trapdoor idea, 262 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: but with a little bit of a longer glide after 263 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: the trapdoor. Right. So now I'm going to try and 264 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: explain without the use of visual aids, how how a 265 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: simple pneumatic tube system using a couple of valves and 266 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: a switch would help a canister come to a stop. 267 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: All right, So you've got with the two valves, these 268 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: create a pathway for air in front of the caster 269 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: to vent out for most of the trip, while leaving 270 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: enough for the very end to act as a cushion. So, 271 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: in other words, you need a way for air to 272 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: vent outward or else you'll never create that area of 273 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: low pressure. But you need a way to keep a 274 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: little bit of air in there so that it can 275 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: act as a breaking system. So you've got to figure 276 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: out how to do that. And when I saw there 277 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: was a a series of illustrations I saw online that 278 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: explained this really well. And uh so I'm going to 279 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: try and walk you through it the best way I 280 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: know how. So we're playing Dungeons and Dragons, y'all. And 281 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: here's here's what's happening. So your adventurer is in a 282 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: tunnel and behind you as a giant spinning fan of death. 283 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I've been on this module before. Okay, 284 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: So in this case, the giant spinning fan of death 285 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: is currently slow. It's it's actually not even moving at all. 286 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: It's it's no one's trip that trap. Yet you start 287 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: walking down the tunnel. So the van is behind you 288 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: and you just have a big expansive tunnel in front 289 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: of you. Now, as you walk down the tunnel, you 290 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: see that there is a split from the tunnel off 291 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: let's say to your left, and it's just a second, 292 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: smaller tunnel that you see down the door. No, no, no, 293 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: there's no door. It's just just an open it's just 294 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: an opening. But but I like your initiative. You didn't 295 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: even have to roll for it, all right. But you 296 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: continue on down and you come to your first actual 297 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: door in that main tunnel. Now you can do your kicking, 298 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: and it works because that door will only open outward 299 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: into the main hall. This is a valve, and it's 300 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: a one way valve, right, so air can go from 301 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: the fan through the main pipe, but it can't be 302 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: sucked back this way, got it? So if airs, if 303 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: airs being pulled, that door slam shut and nothing, not 304 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: even your mighty kick will open it. So since there 305 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: are no differentials in air pressure, your kick opens the door. 306 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: You continue down the hall. I gonna skip the cobalt encounter. 307 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: As you continue down the tunnel, you see a door 308 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: on your left. Now, this door is the other valve. 309 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: This is the valve that is the bypass valve. And 310 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: in fact, if you were to kick down that door, 311 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: but you can do oh ah, yeah, I kicked down 312 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: the door. Excellent, So the door opens inward into that 313 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: secondary tunnel. There's no bug bears. There is an al bear, 314 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: but he's currently on break. So you kick down the door. UH. 315 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: That opens the pathway to the bypass UH top tube 316 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: or bypass pipe. So the first tunnel that you passed 317 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: way back when on the left, it's the same, it's 318 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: that same pathway. So this door will only open when 319 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: air is being pulled through back toward the fan, so 320 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: sucked back toward the fan. So that way, you always 321 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: have one valve that's open and one valve that's closed, 322 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: and it all depends upon air flows, so there's no 323 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: mechanical or electrical need to to change these valves. It's 324 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: just the airflow that does it automatically. So if the 325 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: air flow is being pulled back, the bypass valve is open, 326 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: the main valve is shut, and because the bypass pipe 327 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: completely bypasses that main valve, air can still flow through. 328 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: So now we're going to have to use a an 329 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: example to talk about what happens when the canister comes by. 330 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: So the canister starts rocketing down the path toward the 331 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: fan side, so air is being pulled through, it ends 332 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: up passing a switch. That switch tells the fan to 333 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: stop blowing by. Of course that's going to take a 334 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: little time, So the cancer continues down towards the pathway. 335 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: The canister ends up passing that bypass valve, which is open. 336 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: So once the canister is cleared the bypass valve, because 337 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: you have an air tight seal between the main valve 338 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: and the canister, that air between the two starts to 339 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: get compressed, and that compressed air begins to push back 340 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: against the canister, slowing it down, and thus you have 341 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: air brakes. That was a long way to go over 342 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: that explanation, but honestly, without the use of visual aids, 343 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure how it is going to explain how 344 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 1: this actually works in a way that would remotely make sense. Uh, 345 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: you now get two d and thirty gold pieces a 346 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: piece and the princess is in another castle. Okay, okay, well, 347 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: good adventure than You're welcome. I'm a level three game 348 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: mess thro um. Yeah. So obviously, if the if the 349 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: fan were switched the other way, where the canstor is 350 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: blowing down the the pipe, the main valve would be opened. 351 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: The bypass valve would be shut, and that would be 352 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: it there would it would be no different otherwise. Uh So, yeah, 353 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: that's that's the basic way that this works. And that's 354 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's a very very very simple versions, as 355 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: complicated as that just sounded out loud, that that is 356 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: as basic as it gets. Really. Yeah, Jonathan from two 357 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: coming in here. We're going to have more from this 358 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: classic episode after this quick break. You know, I said 359 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: a while ago that these things have been around since 360 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: the eighteen fifties at least. So let us go to 361 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: the way back machine. It's been out of use for 362 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: so long. Kind of dusty in here, this little Yeah, 363 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: you know what, as as as cramped as this thing is, 364 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: it's still cooler than Josh and Chuck Studio. I mean, 365 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: not not like in a style sense, I mean physically 366 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: the temperature is lower. Physically Yeah, cooler, Yeah, yeah that No, 367 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: they they're they're pretty hot, yeah they are. They're there 368 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: a couple of hot guys. All right, Well, anyway, let's 369 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: just where are we setting this to, uh too, to Greece? Sure, well, okay, 370 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: like ancient Greece, modern Greece. Okay, I was really hoping 371 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: you were going to say Greece too, but okay, to 372 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: Greece it is here we go. Well, we do have 373 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: chills and they are multiplying. But that was Greece one. 374 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't want to it's it says a 375 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: lot for you and little for me. So there was 376 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: a mathematician who started writing about the concept of using 377 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: pressurized guests to produce mechanical motion. I know this guy, Yeah, 378 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: Haro of Alexandria, also known as Heron. He's a pretty 379 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: smart dude. Was he was? Did you you know? We 380 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: talked about it. He is. Since we are here in 381 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: the way back missions and he's across the street over there, 382 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: he's kind of working on something else right now, Yeah, 383 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: I think we're weirding him out by looking at him. Maybe. Okay, 384 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: well let's just act casual, all right. So something else 385 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: that he was really known for, by the way, he 386 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: was known for working with steam engines, in fact, pressurized gas. 387 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: It makes sense, right, it's related. He noticed that air 388 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: had the ability to physically push against things, and that 389 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: if you had a way of generating air movement, you know. 390 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: He even thought, oh, air must be made of something 391 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: because it can have a force. So very forward thinking. 392 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: He didn't have the words to describe this in the 393 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: way that we do today, but he understood that this 394 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: had a way of doing work, and that if you 395 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: could find a way to channel that, you can make 396 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: air do work for you. And that gave him a 397 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: lot of thought about steam, including one of my favorite 398 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: proposed inventions. There's no record of it actually existing, and 399 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: I think we I think we talked about this one 400 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: in our episode about steam engines. Yeah, I'm pretty sure 401 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: we did. This is the magical way to open temple doors. 402 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: And so you start with a flaming brazure, which is 403 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: a container that contains hot coals, essentially, and you have 404 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: that connected to a boiler. The boiler boils water, water 405 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: is converted into steam. That steam goes through a long 406 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: tube that's essentially a condenser tube. It condenses back into 407 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: water and starts dripping into a bucket. When enough of 408 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: water has dripped into that bucket, that bucket, which is 409 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: suspended by a rope from a pulley, starts to get 410 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: heavier and heavier, pulling downward, and that pulley system ends 411 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: up turning a couple of columns that open up the 412 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: temple doors. So by lighting a fire and and sacrificing 413 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: something to the gods, eventually the doors open and it's magic. Uh, 414 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: it was pretty brilliant. He's he actually came up with 415 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: a lot of different really cool ideas. Um and so 416 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, we definitely wanted to call him out. But 417 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: then we have to skip ahead a couple of you know, 418 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: like a millennia or two. You know. Oh yeah, you know, 419 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: you know how it goes with science stirring some of 420 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: those intervening years between. Yeah, tell him increase and say 421 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: that the Renaissance, you know, back when everyone suddenly said, hey, 422 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: remember when we used to be smart. He liked that. 423 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: It was great. You know, we were a lot a 424 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: lot fewer of us were dying of the plague back then. 425 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: We liked that time. That was good. Yeah. So a 426 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: fellow by the name of Dennis Poppin, I think that's 427 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: how you said, that, would present a paper on an 428 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: invention that he or an idea that he was calling 429 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: the double pneumatic pump to the Royal Society of London. 430 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: That's pretty, that's pretty. That's a pretty impressive name, the 431 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: double new double pneumatic. It's twice as good as it 432 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: is clearly obviously um, but nothing more would come of 433 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: this until the early nineteenth century. Yeah, that's when there 434 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: was a Scottish engineer by the name of William Murdoch. 435 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: I have to mention William Murdock because while while he 436 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: had essentially invented the pneumatic tube, he didn't do a 437 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: whole lot with it. It was some of his I 438 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: hesitated to use the word like students because they weren't 439 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: even apprentice to him. But people who worked within the 440 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: same field, who were exposed to his ideas were able 441 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: to actually implement them. But he was the one who 442 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: came up with the concept of using a pneumatic tube 443 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: in the early nineteenth century, and others would take that 444 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: idea and run with it. Uh Yeah, namely one British 445 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: engineered by the name of George Medhurst. He would publish 446 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: a plan in eighteen ten for a pneumatic transport system. Now, 447 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: let me ask you, is this the one where you like, 448 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: you get in the tube and you press a button 449 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: and then you just fly across. So it's not like 450 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: in futurama. I know now that would hurt a lot. 451 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: I don't recommend it. Yeah, Well, Okay, so they're downsides. 452 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, clearly you really need that air brake system 453 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: to work really well, and your ears would pop like 454 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: a mother. True. Yeah, being being being subjected to extremely 455 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: low pressure on one half of your body might not 456 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: have the best effect overall. All right, fair enough, Okay, 457 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: So so he was so he was working with a 458 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: compressed air. Yeah, he actually created as something called the 459 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: Aeolien engine in eight hundred, which was a kind of 460 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: like a car running on a compressed air in a way, 461 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: it was a vehicle that used compressed air on the 462 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: vehicle itself to create a system of propulsion to make 463 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: the vehicle move. So in this case, the the you know, 464 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: like we said with the pneumatic tube is one of 465 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: the big advantages is that you have the centralized source 466 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: of power. This was the other way around. This is 467 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: more like more akin to a motor vehicle. So but 468 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: he that was an early experiment of his that didn't 469 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: necessarily work out, you know, as like this is going 470 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: to be the new means of transportation. But he was 471 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: recognizing the power of compressed air. So then he moved 472 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: on to create a design for this pneumatic transport system 473 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: and it consisted of an iron tube that was six 474 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: ft high by six ft wide, which is about one 475 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: point eight meters each. And I had rails along the 476 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: bottom of this tube, so cars would be set on 477 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: the rails and then blown through the tubes using compressed air. 478 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: So essentially the style that we were talking about the 479 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: the the easy, more worring method of getting canisters from 480 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: point A to point B. But he did he did 481 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: note that he did the math and suessed it out, 482 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: and and thought that if air could be subjected to 483 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: just forty pounds per square inch of pressure, just um, 484 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: it's it's about two and a half times the amount 485 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: that the atmosphere exerts upon us right now hanging out 486 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: at sea level. Um. If we could increase that two 487 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: and a half times, that air molecules could be propelled 488 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: at like a thousand miles an hour or a thousand, 489 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: six hundred and nine kilometers, You're welcome, Canada and else. 490 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: Uh when actually pushing stuff that is an air, that 491 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: speed would only be about a hundred miles or a 492 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty kilometers per hour, which it's still pretty fast. 493 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: Certainly in eighteen ten was not too shabby. It's now No, 494 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: Unfortunately he would pass away before he really had a 495 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: chance to implement any of these ideas, but his ideas 496 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: would become instrumental for people who were working on actual implementations, right. Yeah. 497 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: So uh, one of the one of the interesting stories 498 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: I came across, and I was telling Lauren before we 499 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: went into the podcast studio that this, the stories of 500 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: these people probably couldn't merit a couple of episodes. Maybe 501 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: I'll mention it to Stuffy miss in history because because 502 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: it really fits more in their line than ours. But 503 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Simuda and Clegg. So you 504 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: had the Simuda Brothers. That was a company that was 505 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: run by Jacob and Joseph Simuda who were primarily shipbuilders, 506 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: so they were engineers, but they built ships. Then they 507 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: partnered with another inventor and engineer named Samuel Clegg, who 508 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: at one time and worked in a company that used 509 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: a lot of William Murdock's inventions. So Clegg had been 510 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: exposed to Murdock's ideas. Some people refer to him as 511 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: as as Murdoch's student, although from all the research I did, 512 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: it didn't seem like they had a very like each other. Yeah, 513 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of like saying Tesla worked for Edison in 514 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: the sense that, yes, Tesla worked for one of Edison's companies, 515 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: but was not like directly associated with most of his 516 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: life for coffee with the dude. No, especially by the 517 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: time they ended up being kind of rivals. But but 518 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: even in the early days they didn't. It's not like 519 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: Edison knew everybody to work for him anyway. So their 520 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: their idea was to lease some already constructed but unopened 521 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: rail lines. So the idea was they took some rail 522 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: lines that had not yet been open to the public. 523 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: They had been built but not used, and they were 524 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: at a place called Wormholt Scrubs, at least that's what 525 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: was known by at the time. It is now known 526 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: as Wormwood Scrubs. Two bees instead of one, yeah uh. 527 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: And they used a pipe set between the two rails 528 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: as their pneumatic system. So instead of an entire huge 529 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: pneumatic tube encompassing the rails, there was a smaller matic 530 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: tube set right in the middle of the rails, and 531 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: the tube had a slot running all the way the 532 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: length of the tube at the top of it. All right, 533 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: So you're they had a train car that had a 534 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: pole that essentially extended down into that slot and was 535 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: attached at the other end inside the tube to a piston. Okay, 536 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: so this is like a pneumatic monorail. Yeah exactly. The 537 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: piston acted like a canister would in a normal pneumatic tube. 538 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 1: And then you sit there and think like, well, how 539 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 1: do you create the difference in pressure if you've got 540 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: to if you've got a slot all the way across 541 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: the open top of this two, Yeah, there's no there's 542 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: no way to seal it. So what they did was 543 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: they created a leather flap that would essentially be opened 544 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: immediately before and close immediately after the the rod would 545 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: pass through. And uh, the the track they were using 546 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: was on a very gentle slope, and so what they 547 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: did was they used air to push the train car 548 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: up the slope to its destination, and then on the 549 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: return trip they just allowed gravity to bring the car back, 550 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: so you didn't have to have any sort of power 551 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: to bring back the car um and it was used 552 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: pretty extensively as kind of a demonstration. Uh, this sort 553 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: of this kind of track was started to get a name, 554 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: is called atmospheric railways. That's beautiful. Yeah, the reason they 555 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: wanted to call it atmospheric, was that, yes, they're using 556 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: they're using pressurized air, but the cars themselves can be 557 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: open to the air, so you're not forced inside a 558 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: tunnel because a lot of people were worried about getting 559 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, claustrophobic. Yeah, you know, not all of us 560 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: do well in tunnels. Um, they can be certainly. So 561 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: other atmospheric railways would follow, including some built by Isambard 562 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: Kingdom Brunel, who we talked about on tech stuff in 563 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: How Subways Work. That was the seven episode. So he 564 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: was famous for a lot of reasons, one of them 565 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: being that he dug the Thames Tunnel, so he really 566 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: um kind of pioneered the methodology for digging tunnels safely, 567 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: especially under you know, ground that you would technically think 568 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: would be really unstable like the bottom of a river. 569 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: Um and one of his trains, at least from a 570 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: report I read during a demonstration, hit a top speed 571 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: of seventy miles per hour, which is about a hundred 572 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: thirteen kilometers per hour. But keeping that seal effective even 573 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: with those leather flaps was problematic, and so eventually because 574 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: of these issues, the fact that you had to replace 575 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: that seal often uh ended up meaning that when steam 576 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: engines really started to become popular, the pneumatic train systems 577 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: like these couldn't compete, and so people just started to 578 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: go with steam engines that were seen as more reliable 579 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: than something that you had to constantly maintain. So ultimately, um, 580 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: they I was gonna say these didn't go anywhere, but 581 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: that's not true. They'd go from one place to another place. 582 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: Sure they went places, yeah, but they just didn't take off. No. No, 583 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: they literally did not take that literally and figuratively both. Yes. Two, 584 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: Jonathan Again, we're gonna take another quick break and be 585 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: back with more. In the fifties, telegraph systems began to 586 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: really boom um, which I mentioned A for reference and 587 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: B because if it's important to note that in these 588 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: early days of telegraphs, you know, they it was really 589 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: cool technology, um, but they were really understaffed uh telegraph 590 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: telegraph offices, you know, because there was so much demand 591 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: and most people in businesses couldn't afford to have their 592 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: own telegraph machine. So central offices would send these message 593 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: boys on foot through busy city blocks carrying all of 594 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: these telegrams, which would kind of negate depending on you know, 595 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: like like peak capacity, the speed of of a telegraph 596 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: versus a mail system. The idea of being, hey, I 597 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: can send this message instantly, except I'm sending it instantly 598 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: to a centralized point and then from there where someone 599 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: else could has to run it out to you anyway. 600 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: So in eighteen fifty three Latimer Clark would build a 601 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: non electric pneumatic tube that would carry messages between the 602 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: electric and international telegraph companies headquarters and their offices at 603 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: the British Stock Exchange. Uh. And yes, a lot of 604 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: telegraphs were stock related. As we have talked about on 605 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: the show before. H Stock exchanges kind of drive message technology. 606 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: It's crazy, the idea that you want to pounce on 607 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: something as soon as possible, whether that's buying or selling. 608 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: So it makes sense that they were really working to 609 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: try and decrease the amount of time between a decision 610 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: and when it can be acted upon. Um So his tubes, 611 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: Latimer Lattimer Clark's tubes were only one way. Most most 612 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: tubes up to this point were so. In other words, 613 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: once it got to its destination, it had to be 614 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: carried back physically to wherever the first office and around 615 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: the same time, the Great Britain General Post Office would 616 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: commission a study of Medhurst's ideas to try to to 617 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: get some kind of larger postal tube system, right, something 618 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: that could make the delivery of letters more efficient. Yeah, 619 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: because I mean this is again we've talked about this, 620 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: uh in the Subways episode in particular, we talked about it. 621 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: How this same period where London was experiencing explosive population growth. Yeah, 622 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: it's the Industrial Revolution when suddenly there are fewer there's 623 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: fewer need of farmers, and there's a greater need of 624 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: of labor in various ways in the cities and the 625 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: urban areas. So you had this migration of people into cities, 626 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: plus the you know, the fact that people still make people. 627 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: So there was that too going on and uh, and 628 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: so we have this this world where everything's getting more 629 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: complicated because suddenly there's just so many more people living 630 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: in the same physical space as before. Yeah. So, so 631 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: in the eighteen sixties, the GPO would award a contract 632 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: to one T. W. Rammell to constructing anumatic tube system 633 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: that could carry mail throughout London. And Ramball's done some 634 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: really interesting stuff. In eighteen sixty three, Rama would build 635 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: a two foot gauge pneumatic dispatch railway in central London. 636 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: More and then a bit because it takes a couple 637 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: of years before it opens. But in eighteen sixty four 638 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: Rambles Crystal Palace pneumatic railway opened. What so Crystal Palace 639 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: is sect area in London, a location in London. Um, 640 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: so it wasn't The pneumatic railway itself was not a 641 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: crystal Palace. It would have been phenomenal, right. So it 642 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: ran on a track that was about six hundred yards 643 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: in length, that's around five and the train cars had 644 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: colored bristles to help create a seal in a ten 645 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: ft diameter or a three meter diameter tunnel, So kind 646 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: of similar to those flexible skirts we were talking about earlier, 647 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: excepting this case was bristly. Yeah. Uh So this massive 648 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: fan would blow the carriage down onto one end of 649 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: the track. Then the fan would reverse to create a 650 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: partial vacuum to bring the carriage back. So it used 651 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: both principles of pneumatic tubes and a trip cost sixpence 652 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: in a song, or or just a sixpence. Yeah. I 653 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: always think of like Oliver, you know, I think of 654 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: like a Dickensie and musical when I think about the stuff. 655 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: In fact, I want to write one now at any rate. 656 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 1: That's that's a good hobby. Next time on a very musical. 657 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: Oh man, now you guys are gonna request me to 658 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: never saying I know that. So it operated for just 659 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: two years, and depending upon whom you ask, it might 660 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: or might not have been intended to serve as a 661 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: model for an atmospheric railway, but in a different sense, 662 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: because obviously this one was completely encapsulated in the tunnel, 663 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: as opposed to the ones that had the tube that 664 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: ran parallel, well in between the rails, So this is 665 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: one the rails are completely encapsulated in the two. There 666 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: are a couple of cool urban legends about what happened 667 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: to this particular railway. So one says it was just 668 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: sealed off, that that once it stopped being used, they 669 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: sealed off the tunnel, and that in fact there is 670 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: this lone tunnel underneath London where if you were able 671 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 1: to get access to it, you would see the tracks 672 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: and even the carriage itself. There was a lady who 673 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: even reported that she had found it, and there were 674 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: skeletons sitting in the carriage dressed in Victorian outfit. It 675 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: seems unlikely. Yeah, I don't know, Like we're shutting her down. 676 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: Don't let anybody out. We're just shutting off the lights 677 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: and leaving. Yeah, you got your sixpences long gone. You 678 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: are on the wrong train. That sounds like a Stephen 679 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: King story. Um, there's another urban legend that said the 680 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: tunnel collapsed from a bomb which trapped the carriage and 681 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: some passengers in it forever like there was essentially a 682 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: cave in and they were stuck and died and are 683 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: entombed in the carriage. But those kind of bombs weren't 684 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 1: really falling on London for another few decades. Yeah, that's 685 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: the thing. And this this legend was circulating as early 686 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: as nineteen thirty, but there was there were no bombs 687 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: that were going off in the eighteen sixties at in 688 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: London like like that at that time was blitz. No 689 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: and and in fact the Blitz didn't even happen by 690 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: the time this urban legend first started circulating. And so 691 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: it got stronger after World War Two, I mean more 692 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: because partly because people were using underground station and I'm 693 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: two tunnel lines as as a place to seek refuge 694 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: during the Blitz, but that was just an urban legend 695 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: in anyway. In eighteen sixty five the London Pneumatic Dispatch 696 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: Railway opened And this one is not meant to carry passengers, 697 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: although I think someone wrote it the first time it opened. 698 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: But the yeah again, like that would hurt. Yeah, I 699 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: think so too. The cars themselves, Uh, I was reading 700 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: one description. It was said they were coffin sized. Yeah, 701 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: so you uh, they're not meant to carry people. But 702 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: but freight and mail right that this is part of 703 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: the mail system. Uh. And this comes directly from the 704 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: Pall Mall Gazette on October twelfth, eighteen sixty five. And 705 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: you know it's in England. Okay, do it? Do it? Yeah? 706 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: The driving power is that Holben and consists of two 707 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: twenty four horse power steam engines. They set in most disc, 708 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: the diameter of which is about twenty two ft. The 709 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: immense circular fan revolves with great rapidity in an air chamber, 710 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: creating an almost irresistible atmosphere, power which, by the use 711 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: of valves, can be used either for blowing the trains 712 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: through the tubes or literally sucking them back again. So 713 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: there you go. Good show. Thank you, thank you. Yeah, 714 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: that was when I read that description. I was just 715 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: so enchanted by the resistible atmosphere power with such great rapidity. 716 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: So I was, oh, how British this this newspaper is, 717 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Meanwhile, back on the telegraph, 718 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: and in eighteen sixty eight, the UK government would pass 719 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: the Telegraphs Act, which nationalized the telegraph industry and wrapped 720 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: it into the Post Office, thus meaning that the g 721 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: p O acquired like really quite a lot of pneumatic 722 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: telegraph lines which various companies had been privately building out 723 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 1: over the past decade. Now this is also interesting because 724 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: again it mirrors what happened with the subway system in London. 725 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: The subways were built by private companies, so you had 726 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of different independent systems that were not connected 727 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: together at first, until the government realized that this was 728 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: a serious public good good and that you know, they 729 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: wanted to help it out as much as possible and 730 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: conform everything so that it could be used as widely 731 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 1: as possible. Exactly the same. Yeah. Meanwhile, across the Pond 732 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: eight seventy an inventor by the name of Alfred ELI 733 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: Beach begins construction on a pneumatic subway in New York 734 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: called the Beach Pneumatic Transit, obviously named after the inventor. 735 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: The subway did not transport commuters to a magical New 736 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: York beach, sadly, but here's some interesting and odd facts 737 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: about that project. So, first, Beach lied about what he 738 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: was doing. I read somewhere that um that he had 739 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: like personal disagreements with one of the powers that were 740 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: at the time, Um, someone by the name of Boss Tweed. 741 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh well, here's the thing. Originally Boss Tweed backed Beach, 742 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: but Boss Tweed fail fell from favor quite famously through corruption. 743 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: And then after the fact Beach said he was one 744 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 1: of the men who stood in my way. He changed 745 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: the story, and people said okay and went along with 746 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: the story because they wanted to. They wanted this system 747 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: to be put in place. But it ended up not 748 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: being enough because there were other issues that would follow. 749 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, originally Beach and Buss Tweed were buddy buddy, 750 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: and it was only after the fact when when Boss 751 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: Tweeds going down Beaches like, I'm not going down with 752 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: you like that guy was always a pain in the butt. 753 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 1: So so Beach really wanted to create this subway system. 754 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: Um and you know, in order to do that, he 755 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: would have to dig up part of a New York street. 756 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: He knew that Tweed would not be excited about this thing. 757 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: So he was like, well, what if I were building 758 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: a pneumatic male system. Yeah, well, you know what, we 759 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: need a couple of couple pneumatic tubes. Want to send 760 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: mail one way, one to bring mail back the other way. 761 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: Clearly we can't have both going the same tube because 762 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: if messages need to be sent in both directions at 763 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: the same time, they're or it's not gonna work. Pandemonium, yeah, 764 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: dogs and cats. So what we need to do is 765 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: have two tubes. And so they said, all right, that 766 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: that proposal we can get behind. You can you can 767 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: build your your male pneumatic tubes. And then he says, 768 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: all right, well, what I'm gonna do is I'm going 769 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: to house this pair of tubes within a larger tube 770 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: to protect them. So so I'm gonna need to dig 771 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: really pretty big tunnel. It's gonna be it's gonna be 772 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: pretty big. So Beach also came up with a tunneling 773 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: shield and we talked about those in the Subway Episode two. Tunneling. 774 00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: Tunneling shields are essentially a tunneling tool that hold up 775 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: the integrity of the tunnel while you're digging, so that 776 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: people behind you can shore that up with brick or 777 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: or whatever they're using to seal it off. So he 778 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: goes in and he starts digging this tunnel. Everyone thinks 779 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: he's digging tunnels for humatic mail teams. He's like, ha ha, 780 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: I now have this wonderful device that I'm going to 781 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: demonstrate to people to show them how magical this is. 782 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: You can ride in a carriage underground, thus avoiding all 783 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: the dangerous traffic that's happening up on the surface level 784 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: where you've got you know, horse drawn carriages going willy 785 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: nilly all over the place and passing pedestrians everywhere. Exactly 786 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: back to the cats and dogs. So he ended up 787 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: buildings a a track that was only three feet long 788 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: or about yeah, and the tunnel was eight feet in 789 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: diameter or two point four meters, and about twenty people 790 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: could ride on the carriage at a single time. And 791 00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: he himself funded the construction almost entirely out of his 792 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 1: own pocket. So hundreds of thousands of dollars that Beach 793 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: personally put forward to this because he really believed in it. Uh, 794 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: if you wanted to take a ride on it once 795 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: it opened, so he opens it and you actually had 796 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: to go in through a department store. They had a 797 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: an entrance to the station quote unquote station through their basement. 798 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: The station itself was lit by gas lanterns, had a 799 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: fountain with gold fish in it, and two statues of mercury, 800 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: uh flanking the tunnel. Yeah. Very understated, was Mr Beach. 801 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: And so if you wanted to ride, you needed two bits, 802 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: so two bits in order for you to ride, and 803 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 1: that would give you a trip to the end of 804 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: the line and back again. And all ticket uh, all 805 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: tickets that were bought, all that money was given to charity. 806 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: In fact, I think it was given to charity for 807 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: children whose parents were whose fathers were soldiers, would who 808 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: had died. So it was it was all going to 809 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: a charitable cause and it was yeah. Yeah, So it 810 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,240 Speaker 1: was supposed to be the birth of the subway system 811 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: of New York, but it did not get much traction. 812 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so uh, boss the boss Tweed corruption scandal happened, 813 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: and then Beach had to distance himself from Boss Tweed. 814 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: Then uh he there was a stock market crash which 815 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: ended up pulling a lot of funding away from any 816 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: possibility of extending this outward. Also, there were people saying, like, 817 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: could this actually be efficient? Um, we couldn't necessarily run 818 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: multiple trains on a single track. It would all be 819 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: one train per track because you couldn't You couldn't control 820 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: their movement between stations otherwise, like how would you how 821 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: would you get train a to to you know, unless 822 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: you have like a really complex system of blowers. Um. 823 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: So they started saying, well, this doesn't like it's going 824 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: to be very efficient. There's not there's no money to 825 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: support it. And so also the rise of electricity meant 826 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: that ultimately it became moot. And again you can listen 827 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: to how subways work to learn about the rest of 828 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: that story. So, while it was never really taken seriously 829 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 1: as a means of transportation for passengers, Beach's original proposal 830 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: to build those pneumatic mail tubes, which he totally wasn't 831 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: serious about, did actually catch on, not as he originally 832 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: imagined them, which were these like ten ft diameter tubes 833 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,959 Speaker 1: above city streets designed for both people in mail, which 834 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: he was calling the US pneumatic dispatch, right, so that 835 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: never happened, as I'm sorry, clearly he was he was 836 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: influenced at least in part by the London pneumatic Dispatch, 837 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: which was being successful as far as the mail goes, 838 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: and um, so he would his his work would live 839 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 1: on within that system, although I think he died before 840 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: before it was actually built. Uh yeah, so yeah, there's well. 841 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, progress is built upon a lot 842 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 1: of hard work and sacrifice and not. In some cases 843 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: it comes to us at the expense of ideas that 844 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: seemed awesome, but ultimately we're untenable. However, something is you know, 845 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 1: salvageable from the idea, and I think that's the case 846 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: with Beach. I hope you enjoyed that classic episode of 847 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: tech Stuff. Next week we will have part to the 848 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: exciting conclusion of a series of tubes. 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