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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. All about that

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Speaker 1: high school drama girl drama girl, all about.

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Speaker 2: Them high school queens. We'll take you for a ride.

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Speaker 2: And our comic girl shared for the right teams Drama Queens,

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Speaker 2: Jaylie's my girl, up girl fashion, but your tough girl,

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Speaker 2: you could sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drahma Queens

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Speaker 3: Hi Friends, welcome in. We have another special episode for

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Speaker 3: you today, coming from none other than Wilmington, North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I am joined by the one and only b Jail.

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Speaker 3: That's Bethany joy Lens for you people who aren't hip,

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Speaker 3: and we have an extraordinarily cool guest. I was so

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Speaker 3: excited when I heard about this booking because she happens

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Speaker 3: to be one of my new favorite friends, the life

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Speaker 3: of every party, and everyone's favorite nanny slash ex wife

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Speaker 4: X addict X what is hato on Tripper? Like?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the one and only Barbara Allen woods Hight.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we're just debating, is it Babs? Is it Barbie?

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Speaker 4: Is all of the above anything that starts with b

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Speaker 4: okay beautiful? Yeah, all those.

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Speaker 2: Things anything yes, Babe, brave, I go with babe, I

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Speaker 4: We're going there, we go.

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Speaker 2: You're saying you always got this rep you got the

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Speaker 2: reputation as a party girl.

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Speaker 4: Well, I know it's since One Tree Hill. I have

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Speaker 4: this reputation as a party girl. It's since One Tree Hill.

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Speaker 4: I think so like people think that of me, and

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's just such a bubble burst when

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Speaker 4: they find out I'm kind of a homebody. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: I think it's also because I'm I'm an open book

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Speaker 4: like you guys, I'm now inviting you to open my

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Speaker 4: book because I just like, I just say how I

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Speaker 4: to host certain things like events, I'm out there and

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Speaker 4: I tell it like it is, and I put people

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Speaker 4: I'm just like a crazy, wild party girl.

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Speaker 3: Well, having spent some time with you at the last

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Speaker 3: convention in Paris that we did together, I will say

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Speaker 3: I think it's just also because you have such a

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Speaker 3: so I think it's very easy to confuse that with

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Speaker 4: And it sounds really corny, but I really do enjoy

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Speaker 4: like the reunion with these some of my favorite people.

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Speaker 2: But you're consistent. You're consistent in your which is one

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Speaker 2: When I see you outside of these environments too, you're

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Speaker 4: And I feel supportive of my castmates in general, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean that makes me feel like I'm saying, oh,

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Speaker 4: I went to the concerts last night. I love going

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Speaker 4: You guys are off doing so many other things now,

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Speaker 2: Not, you know, we kind of get to reclaim some

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Speaker 4: I never knew the second half of the show. I

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, so many things. This is a whole

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, An, you were all in that stage of

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Speaker 3: That's what these conventions are. I mean, that's what they

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Speaker 2: You know, you've worked so long that you've had such

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Speaker 4: You know, you always have a few people, you know, it's, oh,

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Speaker 4: These conventions are keeping us together, and I don't know,

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Speaker 4: And yeah, podcast, you know, keeping people together. No, it's

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Speaker 4: Emily Robert or my real life daughter Allie Ally played

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Speaker 4: then on The Goldbergs, I played Natalie's mother.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. The Goldbergs great.

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Speaker 3: And now let's make it all three of your real

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Speaker 2: You can't. I told you.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I liked my character the most

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Speaker 3: So what I heard though was that it was nowhere

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Speaker 4: But the thing is Alie's here with me right now too,

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Speaker 2: So oh, we just saw her when we came in.

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Speaker 4: She's so fun. She's got that same energy that you do.

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Speaker 2: By the way, she really carries that same and Natalie

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Speaker 3: She's like she's super warm.

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Speaker 4: She's warm, so much warm.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the same thing.

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Speaker 4: She's cool. When you call me extraordinarily cool, Like no

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Speaker 3: Instagram get out there, you.

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Speaker 4: Passed it down. I mean, I have a cool life,

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with Joy and I are supremely cool. We

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Speaker 4: You have a cool energy. I don't. It's okay, I'm

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Speaker 3: Do you think is there anyone else in the industry.

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Speaker 3: Are you a better teacher or actor? Oh?

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Speaker 2: It's over.

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Speaker 2: I think that you come into contact with you feel judge.

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Speaker 3: didn't realize how much anxiety I have until I heard

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00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 3: the way I would be talking to like to our son,

442
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 3: so you know, like he would spill the oneter and

443
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: be like money, bunny, Bunny money. I was like, oh wait,

444
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 3: he's going to pick this up like I need And.

445
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 4: Then you hear him do it.

446
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 3: Yes, And so I always remind myself like slow down, soften,

447
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 3: just don't take it all so seriously. Yeah, and it

448
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 3: kind of helps me rain it and like it's just

449
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 3: water on the floor. Yeah, you know, like because I

450
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: can catch myself getting like a little too tight on

451
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 3: the reins, like and it's like.

452
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 4: And they pick up your energy, They just pick up

453
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 4: your energy. It's you know, yeah, whatever you're feeling. Sometimes

454
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 4: I'm in a really good mood and I notice people

455
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 4: like my kids are in good moods, like wait, why

456
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 4: did I start that train? Like did I? Am I

457
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 4: the one who's like creating this? Or if I'm not

458
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 4: in a good mood, same thing, like why are you

459
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 4: so crabby? Well, because you are. You're like, oh, I'm

460
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 4: the one who has to be like the happy one here, Okay,

461
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 4: I got it. And you're well you're in the teenage

462
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 4: teen years.

463
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, isn't that nuts?

464
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 4: And a girl teenage?

465
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Superd are you doing I'm doing great?

466
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 4: You're doing good.

467
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's great. She's so polite and kind and like

468
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: it's it's fun and you know, I mean it's just

469
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: been the two of us for so yeah life really, Yeah,

470
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 2: we have we have our we have our thing. I

471
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 2: mean I think that's it. Just like don't get on

472
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: the roller coaster. Come to show up to the theme

473
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 2: park with them, but like you stay on the ground

474
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: and they get to go on the roller coaster. Yes,

475
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: and I'm just here when you get off the ride

476
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: way for the top while you're at the top. But yeah, no,

477
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 2: it's it's been It's been really a joy. Truly, I

478
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: feel I feel so lucky.

479
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 4: It's besting ever.

480
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is ever. Well, you got to be the

481
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 2: mom of a boy on One Treo, and I wondered, like.

482
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 4: How how debt? Like how Deb?

483
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 2: We've had you on the show before, so I don't

484
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: remember which questions we've already asked you or not, but

485
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: like I wanted to know how Deb came to be

486
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: the personality that she became.

487
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 4: Is that funny because it was because she went downhill?

488
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: She felt so much like this.

489
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 2: It was very much what I think of as like

490
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: a boy mom like she was really she was really

491
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: kind of strong and tough and like had everything in

492
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: all her ducks in a row and everything was very

493
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: not chaotic, and then the world just all started falling out.

494
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 4: I don't think they had what happened to Dub. I

495
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 4: don't think was planned. I think this is my theory

496
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: and I might have said this on the podcast before,

497
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: but my theory is that, well, first of all, the

498
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: writers on One Tree Hill really wrote I think for

499
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 4: us as they got to know us, maybe wrote to

500
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: our strengths, yeah, maybe added some comedy or not, and

501
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: maybe tried to press some buttons, some emotional buttons where

502
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 4: we didn't want them to trusim. Yes, but I think

503
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 4: that when they got to know me and they knew

504
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 4: I was sort of up for fun, party, party, Barbara, party,

505
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 4: Babs whatever, they knew I was up for fun and

506
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: just kind of like, yeah, throw me some fun, exciting

507
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 4: stuff to do that. At that point, Deb started going

508
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 4: downhill because.

509
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: She became you know, Cayo.

510
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you were never having more fun, Like it

511
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 4: was so much more fun to play a character like that.

512
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: When I go back and watch the beginning episode, she's

513
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 4: just boring, Like that character is just like, Okay, let's

514
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: have some fun.

515
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

516
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: What was the sort of initial conceit of Deb, Like,

517
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: how how big of a role was supposed to have?

518
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 3: What did it look like?

519
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 4: Dad was a three episode arc?

520
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: God, you didn't do so well? Yeah, but you overstayed

521
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: your welcome.

522
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is even better. I was on another

523
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 4: show at the same time, not a regular but a

524
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 4: recurring role in LA and I knew that one Treehill

525
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 4: wanted me for three episodes. I was in love with

526
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 4: this character. I just love I was in love with

527
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 4: the show, the writing, and I don't think I saw

528
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: into the future that I would be there further than

529
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 4: three episodes, but I really wanted those three episodes. But

530
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 4: I had to choose between the two shows, and the

531
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 4: other show would have possibly taken me further as well,

532
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: and I had to choose, and I chose One Tree

533
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: Hill knowing that it was only three episodes. So then

534
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 4: when they extended and I and on top of it,

535
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 4: I never went home. So after three episodes, they said,

536
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: would they want to keep you here? So I didn't

537
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: even pack for it. I didn't even I never even

538
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 4: went home. So yeah, and then.

539
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: You were here for five years.

540
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 4: How I always remember, I mean I always forget how

541
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: many I don't know.

542
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: But we were just watching episodes, like a Thanksgiving episode

543
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: that I directed, and you weren't there.

544
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: I was like, where is Dan weird death disappearing. It's

545
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: like when Dan goes away.

546
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 4: No one explained it away. No one explained it, which is.

547
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: More than Dan.

548
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 4: Yes, And all of a sudden, she just shows up

549
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 4: one day with Jamie, I think as the babysitter or

550
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: something like. No one ever really in.

551
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 2: Eight, you're just gone. Did you ever get a phone call?

552
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: Were you working on other things?

553
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

554
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: Yeah? Seven I really honestly don't remember. I think season

555
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 4: eight I moved back to La so I must have

556
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: thought I wasn't coming back. I don't remember. Like the series.

557
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 4: I think they were going to have me come like

558
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 4: an occurring basis or something. I don't really remember, but.

559
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: Come back for the end I did. Okay, I don't

560
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: remember yet.

561
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 3: Was season seven though, when Skills and Dead had a thing?

562
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: No, it was like five. I think it was early

563
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: I should know this, but I think that was five.

564
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 2: And then they broke up, you guys broke up and

565
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: then you helped us the nanny Carey thing. Yeah, it

566
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: was psychotic and season six maybe I remember exact.

567
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: And I had Allie I think season five. Yeah, so

568
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 4: I had to leave for a little bit to have her.

569
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: And yeah, well we missed a lot of lunch.

570
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: We're really missing you on the show right now as

571
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: we're watching.

572
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: What are you on right now?

573
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 3: Eight twelve?

574
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well what's happening? So Brooke and Julian are almost

575
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 2: about to get married? Okay, And you'll never believe me,

576
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: My god, I didn't.

577
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 4: Watch you guys, watch you guys. I watched the whole

578
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 4: show with Allie, not at the time, now Ali wanted

579
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 4: to watch all nine. Now she wants she's starting over.

580
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 4: She's a mega fan now, and it's so different for

581
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: her to be here. Well she knew you already, but

582
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: like to know everybody, and being here is different because

583
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 4: she used to go to the conventions of me and

584
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 4: not really no everybody, but same here. Like I didn't

585
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: see your work until recently you got You're good.

586
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 5: You're so good.

587
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: It really good so much.

588
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: It was the same with you. I hadn't because we

589
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: never crossed paths. Yeah, it wasn't until the rewatch It's.

590
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: Like, oh, you're so good.

591
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's right, just.

592
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: Like kind of like two different shows. But I mean,

593
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: I wish I'd come back and entered your storyline.

594
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: That would have been so much fun. I mean, what

595
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: would deb and Clay have gotten into.

596
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: Oh oh my goodness, we would have hadn't a fair

597
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: Oh oh absolutely, As.

598
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: I stopped for a second because Quinn, yeah, oh I

599
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: would I.

600
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: Mean Quinn went off to like, oh no, she said

601
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: she was going to forgo or something, but she didn't

602
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: go the right age.

603
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah eighteen.

604
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: I know this because I think the character was supposed

605
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: to be remember when I got the job. I think

606
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: the character is supposed to be like early thirties, and

607
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: I was twenty eight or twenty nine, and so I

608
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: was like, it's They're like, it's cool, just grow out

609
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: your facial hair. And so if you go back and

610
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: watch my first two episodes, I have a very unconvincing.

611
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 4: Do to make you look a one year older, truly,

612
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 4: to the.

613
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: Point where it gets abandoned, like one or two episodes

614
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: in the season seven because I was like, I don't

615
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: think that in La was.

616
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 4: Like her face, but you were playing an adult with

617
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 4: the job, So yeah, that would have been perfect fit.

618
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: My god, damn, oh well that so many in another way.

619
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: Would club Would that be our couple of men?

620
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Club day no delay delay. That's so good.

621
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: I love all the imagining that funny because it would

622
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 4: have been I was pregnant on the show, hoping that

623
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: they would just write it in instead of having to hide.

624
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: It's hard to hide a woman's stomach and enormous boobs,

625
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: and let's write it in deb Yeah, because Deb's what

626
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 4: thirty nine or something, She's not like she's fifty two.

627
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: Like it's I mean, I'm pregnant, So deb could be pregnant.

628
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: We're kind of the same age. And for the writers,

629
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: just like they're like, what, we don't know what to

630
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 4: do to be pregnant?

631
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I think the same thing happened to Haley,

632
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: Like once I had a kid, then they were kind

633
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: of like, well, what do we do with you now?

634
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: Like you're not interesting anymore?

635
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: So everything opens up, like so many possibilities, becomes so

636
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: much more interesting, become so much more aware of, so

637
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: much more yourself, so much more comfortable being who you are.

638
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: We can throw in a sexy nanny that you hire.

639
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: So many possibilities, so many possibilities. Wait, speaking of possibilities,

640
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: I've said for a while that there should be a

641
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: prequel to Onetree Hill, Like there should be they need

642
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: to do like Deb, Dan and Karen in the eighties.

643
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: You know, so I've never heard this idea that you know,

644
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: one of my daughters could plain and the prequel.

645
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: This is my question, Actually, which one of your daughters

646
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: do you think?

647
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: I mean, well, look, we know that.

648
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: Olivia is the right age. Ali's like God, she's the

649
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: writing the same energy as you, and I feel like

650
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: that would be a good fit.

651
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: It would be great I could.

652
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: Also see Emily and Natalie. Like, I guess it just

653
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: depends on how.

654
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: They wrote the character them. Maybe the prequel, so you

655
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 4: lot of the most the prequel could go over a

656
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: few years, and then it could be all three of them.

657
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I got you know, it would be great.

658
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 7: Wow.

659
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I just think that is such a I

660
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: think that would be so much a great idea. I

661
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: think it would be really really.

662
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: Interesting, especially if it's in the eighties.

663
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: I love eighties, eighties anything, and it's already characters that

664
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: people are obsessed with, and it's so much drama that

665
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: when we started. When you start the pilot, you're walking

666
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: into a ton of drama that's already pre existing. You've

667
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: got this small town, this family that's these two families

668
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: that are divided, and we don't really know much about

669
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: the history of these characters except the flashbacks.

670
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 4: Even if they're different actors, everyone's already in love with

671
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: the character.

672
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.

673
00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it's because they ultimately know what's going to be.

674
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: Yes, do just build a show. I'm telling you, let's

675
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: go after drinks.

676
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: Well from the.

677
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: Podcast, she was on the show because she was in

678
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 4: my stomach like and so be so cool for her

679
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: to do.

680
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, fine, fine.

681
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: I have a question at these conventions, when people come

682
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: up to you, when fans come up to you, is

683
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: there a scene or a quote that you hear the most.

684
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 4: Yes, life Wait, I have to get it right now.

685
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 4: Life sucks. Give me a drink. Life sucks. I want

686
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: to drink. I think that's what it was. Life sucks.

687
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 4: I need a drink. Yeah, over and over and over again,

688
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: and people want me to write it like optimistic.

689
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: Life sucks.

690
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 4: I need to drink. Barbara Allen Woods.

691
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: We just interviewed Barry Corbin and he had a fan

692
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: and get the quote of his tattoo, but it was

693
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: like a beautiful saying and I just wanted to drink. Wow,

694
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: mama needs a buzz mom of the year stuff right there.

695
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I don't know any other. I don't

696
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 4: think she ever said anything very like.

697
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: I don't know do you have a favorite uh oh,

698
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: a deb quote? No scene? Do you think of fond

699
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 3: just you remember shooting?

700
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: I mean I loved all the stuff that Paul and

701
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 4: I had to do together, like just playing tricks on

702
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 4: each other and all the the War of the Roses. Yeah,

703
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: I mean that was my favorite. I also had a

704
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: great scene with Moira that was fun. I like comedy,

705
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: and so to be like the comedic in such a

706
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: serious show where it's a lot of you know, talking

707
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: heads and crying and all that, I think it's the

708
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 4: most fun. And I'm not necessarily into being on a sitcom,

709
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 4: but I love being like the comedy in a drama.

710
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: How did the Goldbergs go for you? I haven't seen

711
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: your episodes yet. Oh, it was so much fun. And

712
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: this broad comedy that's not front of his studio audience, right,

713
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: that's like a single camera. It was single camera. Yeah, okay, okay,

714
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 2: have you done well? I know you did Seinfeld because

715
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: I watched Seinfeld and I'm like, who Barbara Barbara?

716
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, yeah, you.

717
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: Know that was what episode? Would you do?

718
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: I played, oh, someone going out with Jason Alexander, a

719
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: date of Jason Alexander. I actually, you want to hear some.

720
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: Dirt all of it. Yes, I used to date.

721
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 4: Someone from that show you did, David.

722
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: I wish Michael Richard's Jerry Jerry. Oh my gosh, what

723
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm weirdly attracted to you right now? Yeah? Wow?

724
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 4: Small World. Yes, at a comedy club, and it was

725
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 4: before he was Seinfeld. But he did stand up and

726
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: even watch the pilot together when he had done the pilot, Like,

727
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: you want to watch the show? I just did a

728
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 4: pilot O yah. Sure, And I think it wasn't picked

729
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 4: up to begin with. I remember not being picked up,

730
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 4: and then.

731
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 3: I got a partial pickup of like five or six episodes, okay,

732
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: and they were very very much on shaky ground. It

733
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: was a very different show that first. I think it's

734
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: like a six episode season. That's how uncertain the network

735
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 3: was about the show.

736
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 4: Wow, it goes to show how much network people don't know.

737
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: Oh my ysh, Yeah, it's so true.

738
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: Was Jerry a fun hanging? Was he funny in person?

739
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 4: He's very serious about being funny. I think a lot

740
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 4: of comedians are that way, so serious. People like not

741
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: what you would expect.

742
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: It's super sharp and intelligent, so smart, so so so smart.

743
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: And so nice to fans. I mean we ended up

744
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: being friends and then I ended up doing the show

745
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: after we dated. Oh funny, that's great. Yeah, it was good.

746
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: So you did sitcoms? You've done sitcoms in your life

747
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: with a live audience yeah, have you done a lot

748
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 2: of theater?

749
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: Yep? When did you do theater in Chicago before I

750
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: moved out to LA And I did something in La too,

751
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 4: But it's not like it's not the scene in La.

752
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 4: Yeah it's not, but I did. That's how I started

753
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: doing theater. And I majored in theater in college and

754
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 4: then just a bunch of theater played Cinderella Joy. Did

755
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 4: you Hammerstein?

756
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: No? I was gonna say, wait, do you sing?

757
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: And I didn't know this.

758
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 2: I do you sing?

759
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: Do?

760
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 4: But not like you Well, I'm just wondering, like what

761
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 4: do you no?

762
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: No? No?

763
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: Yes?

764
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 4: And we talked Broadway on set. Okay, maybe we did,

765
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 4: but I just loved, like, you know, I'm kind of

766
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: a nerd that way. And I remember being on the

767
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: carpet for during One Tree Hill for certain events, and

768
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: because One Tree Hill was so music heavy, they would

769
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: always say, you know, who was your favorite artist? What

770
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 4: is your favorite song? And for me, it's just Broadway.

771
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 4: And I always felt kind of nerdy saying that, like,

772
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 4: I don't know, a chorus line is my favorit? Like

773
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 4: is that current? I don't know. Do you see a

774
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 4: lot of new shows? It's it's my favorite thing in

775
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 4: the world.

776
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, wait, what have you seen? Oh lately?

777
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: Nothing in nothing recently? Oh really nothing recently, Like.

778
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: You don't go to the pantagous and go.

779
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: But I did see Cinderella on Broadway and that was special. Yeah,

780
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: I mean whenever I was going more often when I

781
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: was in North Carolina because New York is so close.

782
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: So I wish i'd done that. I wish I had

783
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: just like hopped out. Hillary did that all the time,

784
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: all the time.

785
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just the week's so fun.

786
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

787
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: Well, no often, yeah, yeah, hour.

788
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: And a half light guys, I know, it's really did

789
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: you do it never?

790
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 6: I just have listen.

791
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: There's one thing I know. It is flight time between

792
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 3: major cities. Okay, it's an hour and a half hour

793
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: twenty five yeah.

794
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

795
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: So you're in like such a new interesting phase in life,

796
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: as you were talking about at the very beginning of this,

797
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: and it's just so it's so lovely as your friend

798
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: to see you beaming and happy. I mean, you've always

799
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: had a lightness about you, but it feels like there's

800
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: an authenticity like you're not you know, you don't have

801
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: to compartmentalize when you're when there are things happening in

802
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: your life that there's a lot of tension in the

803
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: personal world. That can be so difficult, and I tend

804
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: to compartmentalize anyway when things are going on like that,

805
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: And it's really fun to see you in this just

806
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 2: super authentic phase.

807
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, Well when you're you know, Mike, I've

808
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 4: been very focused on my girls. Yeah, since One Tree Hill,

809
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: that's really all I was focused on. Yeah, and they

810
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 4: started their careers and I was insistent that nobody else

811
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 4: would be a part of that and be on set

812
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 4: with them, and it was just important for me to

813
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 4: teach them etiquette and how to treat it, just everything

814
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 4: it needed to be me that was there when you

815
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 4: had three kids.

816
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it's hard, a real and a full

817
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: time job, like this is a real thing. Yeah yeah, yeah,

818
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: it's a huge response ability.

819
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: But now that they're older and they're you know, when

820
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 4: they're eighteen, they can be and Alley's about to turn

821
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 4: eighteen and so kind of like my job is done.

822
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 4: I'm still there for them, but it's time for me it,

823
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: which is scary. I'll focus on me a little bit

824
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: and then seriously, when you start focusing on yourself and

825
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 4: really do love yourself and take care of yourself, things

826
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: start coming to you amazing, you know, Like I focused

827
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: on them, things came to them. You know, you have

828
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 4: to put energy in the things you're going to benefit from.

829
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: Sure.

830
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I just am in a phase of

831
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: me and things are coming to me. And one of

832
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: those things was really nice.

833
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: I just know, and I was in awe of like

834
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: the height and handsomeness caught me so off guard. Oh yeah,

835
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 3: I was just I walked in there and I was like,

836
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: boyfriend is so handsome and uh lovely, very warm.

837
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 4: But let me tell you, like the nicest, warmest, most

838
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 4: loving giving person I've ever met in my life.

839
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: That tracks, though, I'm happy to hear that, and it

840
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: also tracks because that is very much your lane.

841
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: Yeah he I I didn't know this, Like somebody told

842
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: me that he actually is kind of famous, and I

843
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: did not.

844
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 4: I did not know, Like is this true? He can

845
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: recognize way more than I do. Like it's because he's

846
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 4: like his presence too, you know, it's like you can't yeah,

847
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 4: I mean you've seen the show.

848
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was on Cops for our listener. He was

849
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: he was.

850
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 4: He was an army cop. He was a cop in

851
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: the army before.

852
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: What what does he? What does he?

853
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: You actually don't know what? Oh, you don't know.

854
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: I only I only just heard, but our listeners may

855
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 2: not know. I did just okay, okay, but I heard

856
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: like an hour ago. I didn't actual his daughter.

857
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: Was on the Bachelor, and she would his daughter was

858
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 4: on the Bachelor.

859
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 3: You didn't know, I didn't know. Okay.

860
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 4: Her name's Kelsey. She's beautiful, she's wonderful. All of his

861
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 4: kids are. But his daughter was on the Bachelor. And

862
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 4: you know, at the end of The Bachelor, they go

863
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 4: to hometown. They introduced to theirs three remaining girls, and

864
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: they take the Bachelor home to meet their family. And

865
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: Mark was there being all cute and dimply and sweet

866
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 4: and like, who's that guy the producers the background, he's

867
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 4: the dad. And I'm watching the show with my girls

868
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: because we always watched the show. It's like a mindless

869
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 4: sorry Bachelor, but it was just like a brainless, mindless

870
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, and I think that's probably but one of

871
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 4: my favorite shows of all time. But you can turn

872
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 4: your brain off pretty much, so and teaching them what

873
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 4: not to do, and we used to count it towards

874
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 4: school the Bachelor. I'm not getting one hour school, yep,

875
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 4: and so kind of interested in him. I'm like, oh,

876
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: see if he has an Instagram, what's his name, Martin.

877
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: Oh, he's an.

878
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: Instagram not many followers, but I'm gonna DM him. And

879
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: then I guess I wasn't the only one who noticed

880
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 4: his dimples. So then he was at the final episode

881
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: of her show. He was in the audience, and I'm

882
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 4: watching with Ali and like, oh, there's my boyfriend, the

883
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 4: one I DM. I'm like, oh, I wonder if you

884
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: ever responded. He didn't respond to me, So then they

885
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 4: announced that he's going to be on the Golden Bachelorette

886
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 4: as a contestant. Oh, like taking my boyfriend away from me.

887
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 4: Then I DM him again, like I don't know what

888
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 4: I say. It was so corny whatever I said, like

889
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 4: you have a cute smile, You're going to go a

890
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 4: long way in life or something stupid, and still didn't respond.

891
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 4: But then I realized he's not responding because he's already

892
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 4: on the show because they take their phones away, Like

893
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 4: maybe that's why he's not responding. And then he got

894
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: kicked off and I'm watching every week to see if

895
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 4: my boyfriend's gonna get kicked off the show. I've never

896
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 4: really spoken, watching feeling like we know him but we don't,

897
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: and like, oh he's still on. Oh, she really likes him.

898
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 4: Like and then he got kicked off. And by the

899
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: time he got kicked off, he had already responded to me.

900
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 4: So we started talking through social media or whatever. And

901
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: then you go the next step, texting, and then you

902
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 4: go the next step and you talk, and we started

903
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: talking and it's been NonStop.

904
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: Barbarack.

905
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 4: He's such a good guy.

906
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I just.

907
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 4: Have to get used to being with good people. Like

908
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 4: he's a good guy.

909
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: How do your daughters feeling?

910
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: They love him? Oh, probably more even than I do.

911
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: They love him and they love seeing me happy, and

912
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: they love seeing me being treated correctly. And he's just

913
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: so soft spoken, but when he speaks, it's just means something.

914
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love people like that. Yeah, I want to

915
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: be one of those people. I'm not there, Oh me neither,

916
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm not.

917
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: I talk all the time.

918
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: Your daughters are constantly pulling you aside, like mom, do

919
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: not blow.

920
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: This, do not all of us, and you're not, like

921
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 4: it's the truth. I'll get a little unhealthy from time

922
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: to time and I'll say something, but do you think

923
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: he's mom? No, he's everything. Like they just would be

924
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 4: so mad at me if I know.

925
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

926
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: The thing I've been thinking about lately is that we're

927
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: professional at instant intimacy. You know how to just create

928
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: instant intimacy and it's lovely and it gives us all

929
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: those dopamine feelings that you want, but we're not taking

930
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: the time to build the found in real life. If

931
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: we do that, which we're so good at, it's so easy.

932
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, here's my little thing trick I

933
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: can pull out of my hat. But if you don't

934
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: take the time to actually build the foundation in real life, yeah,

935
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: then the instant intimacy is just cheap and it goes

936
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: away cheaply. To like, it's easy to make it go away,

937
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: it's easy to second guess it and all that stuff.

938
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: So it's so important to take that time.

939
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: It was kind of nice because our relationship started on

940
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: the phone, so all we did was talk. Yeah, and

941
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 4: so you like, if you have that, you know, connection

942
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 4: with a guy, like sometimes you jump into things, maybe

943
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 4: you shouldn't so quickly but we just talked. I mean,

944
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 4: we did a lot of phone sex.

945
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: But I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

946
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: I'm kidding now, I'm kidding, kidding, we did, but but no, no, no,

947
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: I'm serious. Like you get to know something if that's

948
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: all you have, Yeah, then it's not.

949
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: So much about like feeding your ego. Then you know

950
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: the instant gratification of like instant intimacy. Is it feels

951
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: so good, but it's it Is it really about our

952
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: connection or is it just about the fact that this

953
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: feels good to me and it's about me.

954
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: Yes, it can become a substitute for true intimacy. Yes, yeah,

955
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: it's a band. It can be a crutch, that's what

956
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 3: it's give me, be a crutch as opposed to the

957
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: phone when all you got is like questions and answers.

958
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 4: And he would pause for ten seconds because that's what

959
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: he does when he's talking. I've learned thinking let it be.

960
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: So now what I'm going to say is like, but

961
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 4: on the phone, it's like, what's wrong?

962
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing?

963
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 4: What's wrong? Yeah, he's like what I'm just thinking, Like, okay,

964
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 4: you're okay because you paused for three seconds, you know, Yeah,

965
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 4: he's great. He's great, he cooks, he's like, he takes

966
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 4: care of his kids, like he loves me. He came

967
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: with you to this weekend?

968
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: Here?

969
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Is he actually great?

970
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: With? What?

971
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 2: Is he here? Here? Here?

972
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: He's here right his literal hand?

973
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: I know, but I know I met him too, But like,

974
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: is he here in the hallway? Does he want to

975
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: say hi?

976
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 4: He would, yes, you would make sure that I wanted

977
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 4: him to, Okay, And then.

978
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: Does he know that you want him to? Do you

979
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: want to him in?

980
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: See if he's still he's like making out with some

981
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: girl out there?

982
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: No, do you feel insecure about that stuff? Like do

983
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: you feel a little paranoid that? It's like I.

984
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 4: Will always be insecure in relationships period. But he's so good.

985
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 4: All I need to say is give me some reassurance.

986
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 4: Yeah he's there. Yeah, that's great. And he just does

987
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 4: understand why I'm insecure with him. But you know it's great.

988
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 4: He's not he's recognized and you call him famous whatever,

989
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: but from you know, if you've seen that show, you

990
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 4: would know who he is. And he gets recognized a lot,

991
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: but he's not in Hollywood.

992
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's almost like.

993
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 4: The best of both worlds. Like he's gotten a little

994
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 4: taste of it.

995
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she is here. Okay, we're having a

996
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: total party here right now. You guys, thank you all of.

997
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 3: Your This is drama queens after dark, It.

998
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: Really and it is after dark.

999
00:48:53,880 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: I there we go. Let's start storming, get deep.

1000
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: We should have had you in here when we were

1001
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: saying all the nice things about you. We were just

1002
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: listening to Barbara.

1003
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 4: I told him that when we met, all we have

1004
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 4: is the phone, and so we just had to do

1005
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: a lot of phone sex. And then I was kidding,

1006
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 4: and then I was kidding.

1007
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: No, that's a fun one to walk into, right Mark.

1008
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, ambush, ambush. Oh. We were just talking about how

1009
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know if you experienced this because

1010
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: I haven't done any reality TV, but this instant intimacy

1011
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: that as actors we have to, you know, jump in

1012
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: immediately and like you say hi and shake somebody's hand

1013
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: and then rip your heart open and have to be

1014
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: really close, and then you get into this habit that

1015
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: then it starts to translate into your real life with

1016
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 2: friends or relationships or whatever, and suddenly you find yourself

1017
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 2: like having tried to skip the the hard part of

1018
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 2: the building process, but actually you're cutting yourself out of

1019
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: something that is so foundational and important. Yeah, I don't

1020
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: know how. I don't know how. I have no idea

1021
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 2: how what it's like on reality TV if there's some

1022
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: sort of you did one season so this You're not

1023
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: like a reality TV veteran where you're okay, okay.

1024
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: But there must have there must have been a sense

1025
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 3: of pressure though for there to be like sparks and.

1026
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: Chemistry intimacy on a bachelor show.

1027
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 3: There's no slow burn all out on a show like that, right.

1028
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, not really.

1029
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 8: I mean, because the whole idea of it, I think

1030
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 8: is to hurry up and create a connection.

1031
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: You know, did that feel inauthentic? Did it feel like easy?

1032
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: I mean, how did that feel?

1033
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 6: It was very different? I mean that's you know, I'm not.

1034
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 8: A fast kind of person normally, you know, I'm a

1035
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 8: pretty slow.

1036
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 6: Kind of slow person.

1037
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 4: A lot of pauses in between words like that.

1038
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: I pause a lot.

1039
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 8: Yet you know that the spinning wheel of death on

1040
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 8: a computer it says I'm thinking, and it was.

1041
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 3: It was like the best Christmas present.

1042
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 4: But the thing is he wasn't attracted to her at all,

1043
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 4: so that made it like that was hard for him

1044
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 4: because he wasn't, you know, the bachelorette. I'm just saying this.

1045
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 4: He wasn't attracted to her.

1046
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: At all, so shots fired.

1047
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm just guessing, right, he couldn't stand

1048
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: waiting for you're right?

1049
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you're right, well done, Mark, well done a little.

1050
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 3: Was there any sort of like coaxing or like gentle

1051
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: encouragement from the production staff on, like, hey, if we

1052
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: could find a moment here, like was it? Were they

1053
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 3: ever trying to you're you in a direction? No? I

1054
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: think they.

1055
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 8: I mean they need things to kind of grow organically,

1056
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 8: you know, but sometimes organically isn't quick enough. Yeah, yeah,

1057
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 8: you know it is. It's it has to play out.

1058
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 8: But it is a compressed schedule, you know, So I

1059
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 8: don't I don't think they steer it.

1060
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be tough for producers because if

1061
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: every relationship is forced and then every one of them

1062
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: falls apart when the show is over, it's got to

1063
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: have a bad track record. So they want they've got

1064
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: to want to have some sort of some successful relationships

1065
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 2: come out of the show.

1066
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: It said, isn't the track record of those shows horrendous.

1067
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: Actually don't know so well oh okay.

1068
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean but it's it's also.

1069
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 8: You know, I think a big part of it, like

1070
00:52:52,800 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 8: I didn't experience what the younger.

1071
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 4: The younger shows.

1072
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 8: I was lik in this Golden Bachelorette, you know, which

1073
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 8: is I was the youngest person on there.

1074
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 4: You know, Oh wow, okay.

1075
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 6: So you know everybody was.

1076
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 3: We're civilized.

1077
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 8: There was no you know, competitive I mean, there was competitiveness,

1078
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 8: but there wasn't like the drama that you saw on

1079
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 8: you know that appear on the younger shows, because it

1080
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 8: wasn't a big jealousy thing.

1081
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 6: Everyone was comfortable with themselves. You know.

1082
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 3: I recall catch actually a clip from The Golden Bachelor,

1083
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: and I was so shocked to see the women being

1084
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 3: kind to each other and like cheering each other up. Yeah.

1085
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: See, this is what happens you hit this point in

1086
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 2: your life where you're like, oh, we we're setting examples

1087
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: for our daughters, for young women. We want to actually

1088
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: to encourage each other. That's nice to know, such a

1089
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 2: nice change.

1090
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's just it's hard to watch people constantly

1091
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 3: undercutting and being frum me to each other and see

1092
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they were like, get him, girl,

1093
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: getting I was.

1094
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 4: Watch great, Yeah, you would love it. You should watch.

1095
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 4: And these guys were so supportive of each other and

1096
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Speaker 4: just they were just like, I mean, they're still all

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Speaker 4: in touch with each other.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, by far, the best experience I've had in my life.

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Speaker 8: Like in my adult life, I have never shared the emotion,

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00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 8: felt so safe and secure in an environment to talk

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Speaker 8: about emotion.

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Speaker 6: Like I grew up.

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Speaker 8: My adult life has been military like oriented. You know,

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00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 8: for the military, an emotion wasn't something that was feelings

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00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 8: and emotion wasn't wasn't talked about. Like there's a time

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00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 8: and a place, and that wasn't the time or the place.

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00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: To be in a place a camera in your face.

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00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 8: To be in a place where you could sit down

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00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 8: and talk with other men that were in the same

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00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 8: boat as me, you know, got in on different docks,

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00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 8: is what I like to say. You know, everybody got

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00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,479
Speaker 8: in on a different dock. They were divorced, so they'd

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00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 8: lost their spouse to you know whatever. But they were

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Speaker 8: all single, you know, when we're in the same boat.

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00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 8: So to be able to talk with them about their

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00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 8: experiences and you know, how.

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00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 6: They related with their kids. How they you know, how

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00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 6: did they date after you know, being older?

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Speaker 8: You know, how does that happen? It was incredible, Like

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Speaker 8: it was. It was an enriching experience for me.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and something amazing came out of it. Astely got

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00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: this message from Barbara and your Instagram. I love it.

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Speaker 3: It's like you have don that moment. Oh I'm not

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00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 3: getting the girl. But then you got your phone back

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00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: and look who slid into.

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Speaker 4: And you're like, oh, and by the way, his daughter

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00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 4: won this. Well, I say one, that's horrible thing to say,

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00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 4: but was the chosen one. So there so her his

1129
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 4: daughter is engaged to the bachelor of that season, so

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Speaker 4: they will eventually get married.

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Speaker 6: YEA.

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Speaker 2: Life is so weird, I know, like could you ever

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Speaker 2: have imagined? And you're never like Kelsey.

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00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 8: Remember I remember when Kelsey left, you know, when she

1135
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 8: left home to go to filming. She was home the

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00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 8: weekend before she left, and you know, and I was like,

1137
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 8: you know, Kelsey, you're you're.

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00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 6: Far braver than I because she went to go do

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00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 6: this show.

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Speaker 3: God was like, right, yeah.

1141
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 4: It was.

1142
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 6: It was pretty incredible.

1143
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 3: Well, I'm so happy for both of you. It's a

1144
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 3: pleasure to finally meet you, because I've been seeing the

1145
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 3: pictures on Instagram and you both look so happy and

1146
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 3: your daughters look so happy. Yeah, you deserve it, Thank you,

1147
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 3: you deserve a wow.

1148
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 2: I'm just asking in the glow. It's fabulous. I wish

1149
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: you all could be here to see. Thanks.

1150
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: Tune in on YouTube, everybody.

1151
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, all right?

1152
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: How do you want to wrap it up?

1153
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: Joy with some tequila? Really?

1154
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 3: I have I have one more question? Rank your daughters?

1155
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 3: All right, maybe we've already done that. Yeah, you.

1156
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: Are, You're the best. Thank you.

1157
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: You guys are and I enjoy every single episode and

1158
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 4: you guys are just killing it and I'm just like, support,

1159
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 4: support support. Did you see I responded to something that

1160
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,959
Speaker 4: you're the funniest guy in the world At some point

1161
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 4: you didn't. I don't think you responded. Guys, just guys

1162
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: do not respond to that.

1163
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: Must have been like was it a comment on an

1164
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 3: Instagram post?

1165
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 4: I think I no, I think I DMed you, but

1166
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 4: let me check.

1167
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: But it was.

1168
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 4: It was quite a compliment, like it was a superlative.

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00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 3: We have this episode up because I am dying.

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00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, I'll find it.

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: If you did allegedly.

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00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 8: No, I did.

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00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: I you're so like like I can let a lot

1175
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: of things roll off. I know I keep track of,

1176
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 2: but there are certain things security of, like oh, I

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00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: message that person and they did not.

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00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 4: Message me back.

1179
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: Now I'm not mad at that really, but made a

1180
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: decision about how I feel about it. I'm just like

1181
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: I get pitied in my memory. I'll not forget.

1182
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 4: I will use it at some point.

1183
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: Clearly you forgave and did not forget. Yes, no, I'm

1184
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: not saying no.

1185
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 4: I can promise you I'm going to find it and

1186
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 4: I'll show you.

1187
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So you.

1188
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 4: And I think I even said, oh my god, he's

1189
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 4: so funny, look at this. And I think I showed

1190
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 4: you and I said, I'm going to dmm, and I did.

1191
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: Are you a little nerrodivergent too? I don't know the

1192
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: fact that you, like you can keep track of all

1193
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: we need to Joy, I know we're long overdue. We

1194
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: just need we need time.

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00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 3: I loved anything. Okay, I'm lying.

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00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm lying.

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00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: So she's a wonderful mother, a talented actress. And thanks

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Speaker 3: for joining us with Barbarro.

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Speaker 1: Allenwoods, Burldwoods, everybody.

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