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Speaker 1: ever do that because your customers think that you close.

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Speaker 1: That's the bad news travel faster than good news. So

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Speaker 1: you're not being there. That's a lot of bad news.

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Speaker 1: I say, if you ever shut down like that, just

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Speaker 1: put your other trailer there and put a limited menu.

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Speaker 1: At least you rather serve a limited menu. Didn't come

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Speaker 1: by to the way he's taping the class, which builds

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Speaker 1: your brain, so I know exactly what you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, you know, it's a hard thing because like

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Speaker 1: that Kelly Clarkson shows like a one time in a lifetime, right,

436
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Speaker 1: You're so excited for that, but then at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, you want to make sure that there's

438
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Speaker 1: to let people know that they can't come today or not.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've learned that through my career. I used

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Speaker 1: to say before all people would come back. People won't

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Speaker 1: come back because don't feel so offended that you've displaced them.

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Speaker 1: So um, that's why I keep the restaurant closed on Mondays. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's our day. If we're gonna do TV things in

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Speaker 1: the restaurant or shoot um or if people do want

446
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Speaker 1: to do some TV things, that has to happen before

447
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Speaker 1: we open and they have to be done by that

448
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Speaker 1: time because I'm in the business of displaying people. Here's

449
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Speaker 1: an interesting thing they sent this over to about your show,

450
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Speaker 1: Chef JJ. Chef JJ loves to introduce exciting global cuisine

451
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Speaker 1: cuisine to France and this season turns up the heat.

452
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Speaker 1: When a friendly cook off Okay makes a comforting one

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Speaker 1: Field Trip Hollo. Now you just say none of that

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Speaker 1: che j j. That some great stuff, right, It's a

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Speaker 1: great episode about breakfast in bed. I think a couple

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Speaker 1: of a couple that doesn't cook. He doesn't cook for

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Speaker 1: his his loved one and told me to get a

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Speaker 1: little cookie. Point. I showed that. You know, I'm all

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Speaker 1: about the global world and the cuisine to connect with people.

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Speaker 1: So when you get a little bit of that from

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Speaker 1: one pot stuff, but you know that that's that's the

464
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Speaker 1: notes they gave you. You know, I'm giving you my notes.

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Speaker 1: These guys expecting what I want you to tune in

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Speaker 1: and it's really no. This season is truly exciting, great conversation.

467
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Speaker 1: I think there's some great insight. You know, my my

468
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Speaker 1: biggest guest and my biggest fan on this season is

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Speaker 1: Shaun King. Um he comes on and with his wife.

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Speaker 1: Is that quarterback Sean Farmer? Quarterback Shaun King No, Sean

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Speaker 1: King the activist? All right right right right? Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: a big fan of hand and what he what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: And he comes on with his wife and they cook

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Speaker 1: a lot at home, um, and you know, we had

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Speaker 1: a great one. What I think is one of the

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Speaker 1: best conversations. And you know it's very lighthearted. We got

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Speaker 1: a little bit in the politics, and I love politics.

478
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Speaker 1: My thing on the love and so you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you this one right here like making or breaking

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Speaker 1: for um. No, I'm not gonna let that go down

481
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Speaker 1: like that. You'll be back with season three talking to

482
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Speaker 1: me about what you're doing. You just gotta let me

483
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Speaker 1: know about these breakfast and bad scenes and these little

484
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Speaker 1: cook offs that you're doing and these one pot meals.

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Speaker 1: But that's my job. That was Chef JJ. My job

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Speaker 1: is to promote your brand and push you to the

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Speaker 1: next level. And your great restaurant called Field Trip that

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Speaker 1: you that you're doing it up. But again, your show

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Speaker 1: just each with Chef JJ on TV Ones Network, Cleo TV.

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Speaker 1: He's exciting. I'll consider you a friend, man, I really do,

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Speaker 1: and I'm will always support you and I'll just get

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Speaker 1: those just get those banners to me and these sizzle

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Speaker 1: senior Vice president marketing for Atlantic Records. Now he is

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Speaker 1: the president of Will Packer Productions and is responsible for developing,

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Speaker 1: overseeing productions on all film projects through the company's first

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Speaker 1: Look deal with Universal as a producer. His films that

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Speaker 1: grows more than eight hundred million dollars at the box office. Today,

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Speaker 1: he's on the show to Day to talk about his

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Speaker 1: career and his new movie, The Photograph. Please welcome the

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Speaker 1: money Making Conversations, my man, James Lopez Mashan, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me, brother, Well, well, thank you. I know you're

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Speaker 1: busy because this promotion week, another movie, another another line

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Speaker 1: of promotion. This is great. Got no wheels out there,

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Speaker 1: so I see you getting out there a lot more

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Speaker 1: promoting projects. Is that part of the growth of James Lopez. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been told several times in the past

545
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Speaker 1: that I need to get out there a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: You know. You know me, brother, I'm when it comes

547
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Speaker 1: to promoting and publicity and doing the press. I like

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Speaker 1: to stay behind the scenes and be quiet. But I've

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Speaker 1: been told that I need to let the people know

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Speaker 1: what I do and and uh that I definitely have

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Speaker 1: an inspiring story to tell, and that uh you know

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Speaker 1: that I provided an example for some folks. So I

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Speaker 1: kind of have decided not to be as selfish. They

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Speaker 1: talk about my story a little bit because it might

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Speaker 1: be helpful. It really is helpful. That's what the format

556
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Speaker 1: of money making conversation is all about. I started in

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, uh, and it was supposed to only last

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Speaker 1: six weeks. And then I realized that through the conversations

559
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Speaker 1: and bringing a different type of people I had on

560
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Speaker 1: the show and verst it was just people I know.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, now it's just individuals

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Speaker 1: in the industry to realize so to positive uh, you know,

563
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Speaker 1: format that allow them to tell their story. And also

564
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Speaker 1: it's really about helping people. And when we talk about

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Speaker 1: helping people, you know, I have to talk about my

566
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Speaker 1: relationship with you, and you know you you and when

567
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Speaker 1: I was with Steve Harvey, you know, you broke it

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Speaker 1: our first ring tone deal. And I gotta say that

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Speaker 1: because you know that was that was a skill that

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Speaker 1: you have and had, you know, because I didn't know you,

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Speaker 1: but you had a lickability and use a professional And

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Speaker 1: I remember when Steve said, should we sign this deal?

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Speaker 1: I said, yeah, yeah, James, James a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: trust him. And for me to say that, it's a

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Speaker 1: lot because that means that you understand the value of

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Speaker 1: communicating the honesty of the deal and also the value

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Speaker 1: of a relationship. I'm sure you've been told that a

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Speaker 1: lot over the years. Correct, James. Yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 1: I've been told that that I'm a kind of a

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Speaker 1: no nonsense type of guy, and I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people take my load to me, my my quiet. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: he's quiet, y'all. He is quiet. They take my quiet

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Speaker 1: demeanor as a sign that maybe that I might be

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Speaker 1: angry or maybe I'm not really trying to mess with folks.

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Speaker 1: It's not that at all. It's it's that I'm constantly thinking.

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Speaker 1: I'm constantly observing the room. And you know, I believe

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Speaker 1: that if you don't have something additive to say in

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Speaker 1: the moment, just don't say it. But when you do

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Speaker 1: have something to say, it carries more weight. So that's

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Speaker 1: just the way I operate in life. Um, And I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, I admitted, Rashan, I'm a little bit socially

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Speaker 1: awkward to you. That's why I quiet. Well tell you something, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been around your lot, you know. And

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Speaker 1: and then because you know it was in the music business,

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Speaker 1: so yet always are all this that's how we connected.

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Speaker 1: And uh and that's when you told me he Rashwan

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Speaker 1: t I making a lot of money on these rain tongs.

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Speaker 1: Y'all probably want to look into that, and so you

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Speaker 1: understood that that rain tongs are popular. Back there, there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of way that it was a quick

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Speaker 1: way just using your force and ring tones, and people

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Speaker 1: were buying them. And then but of course all things change,

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Speaker 1: and all things you have to make a transition. And

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Speaker 1: at the time you use the senior vice president marketing

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Speaker 1: for Atlantic Records. What did that job entail? Well, back then,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was largely responsible for the urban roster

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Speaker 1: of artists signed to Atlantic Records. So artists like t

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Speaker 1: I Chat, Joe Fabulous, Trick, Daddy Trenim, M c Elliott, Sean,

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Speaker 1: Paul Naview's little brother, and the list goes on on.

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Speaker 1: So I was responsible for the imaging, packaging and bringing

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Speaker 1: to market those artists, whether it be album packaging, whether

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Speaker 1: it be promotional touring, put it together their stage show,

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Speaker 1: award show performances, all the way up to like you know,

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Speaker 1: music video productions. I was kind of like, um, what

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in to a football team is what I

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Speaker 1: was in the building Atlantic Records when it came to

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Speaker 1: that particular artists, kind of like an in house manager.

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Speaker 1: Yes I wasn't the artist manager, but I was the

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Speaker 1: person most involved in their life and in that project

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Speaker 1: within the company. Um and kind of like leading the

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Speaker 1: company's charged to bring that album or that artist to

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Speaker 1: the marketplace. That's what I was absolutely so. Then in

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Speaker 1: your intro, I make this statement as a producer. As

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Speaker 1: a producer, his films about his career, during his career

625
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Speaker 1: have exceeded eight hundred million dollars at the box office. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's from music to film, which we know, I can't

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Speaker 1: say they're similar because they're different because once visual, you know,

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Speaker 1: even though you might say music videos or visual, but

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Speaker 1: that's not a movie or film. That's a beginning, middle

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Speaker 1: of the end. That's casting, that's being at the right publicity,

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Speaker 1: being at the right moment. How did you make that transition,

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Speaker 1: because I remember you made it. I told Steve at

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Speaker 1: the time, I said, my boy doing films now. And

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Speaker 1: I really was happy because I know that that that

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Speaker 1: you know, music was changing, you know, record stores were

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Speaker 1: dying out, you know, yeah, a lot of more independent

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Speaker 1: thought process was being put into how you released labels.

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Speaker 1: Did you make a decision looking at the industry, or

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Speaker 1: you said, hey, I really want to do film. It

640
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Speaker 1: was it was a combination of both. To be honest

641
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: with you, I'd always had the passion for film and television,

642
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Rashaan. Early on in my life,

643
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Speaker 1: in my career, I just didn't think it was possible

644
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Speaker 1: for brothers to be honest, you know, like coming and

645
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Speaker 1: I'm a boy from Houston, Texas and so like to

646
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Speaker 1: be involved in film intelligion. There was no examples for

647
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Speaker 1: us going up in Houston that there was no one

648
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: I could point to and said you could do that.

649
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: Like I knew obviously, we all know of actors and directors,

650
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Speaker 1: um you know, like the Spike Leaves and John Singleton

651
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: and you know, being in college and watching those guys

652
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: do their things. But I knew I wasn't gonna be bad.

653
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: I had no idea what the producer did. I didn't

654
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Speaker 1: know that there were people behind the scenes, predominantly caucases,

655
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Speaker 1: that were behind the movies. So I just took the

656
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: natural route into music because there were several examples, uh

657
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: that that we as black man could point to and say, Okay,

658
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: well Russell Simmons did it, and this one did it

659
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: and that one did it. I could do that. I

660
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: could do that. But once I got into the music business,

661
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: and got in and was more immersed in the culture

662
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: of entertainment and meeting different types of executives and then

663
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: getting involved in soundtracks. In the music business. I started

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Speaker 1: interacting with studio executives and producers, and then I started

665
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: to get exposed to the possibilities of where where I

666
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: wanted my life to go. So it was it was

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Speaker 1: in the mid two thousands, I would say, two thousand

668
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: and four, two thousand and five when I consciously made

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Speaker 1: the decision that this is what I want to do next,

670
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna work my tail off to get there.

671
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: Let me district in there. I remember you started telling

672
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: me you were writing scripts at that time. Well, I

673
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: was coming up with pitches and decks for ideas and

674
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: when I look when I look back at them, they

675
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: were terrible. But you had energy. You had energy that

676
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: had I had the energy and what I was doing

677
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: with conceptualizing projects as well. And that's that's where my

678
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: strength lies, is coming up with concepts or or discussing

679
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: with other creatives concepts, concepts for movies and then bringing

680
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: them to the marketplace, figuring it out, you know, finding writers,

681
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: finding a director, starting starting projects from scripts. But yeah,

682
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: I made that decision in two thousand five, and it

683
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: took me five years. It took me five years of networking,

684
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: of reading tons and tons of scripts and kind of

685
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: building my chops so that when I got the opportunity,

686
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: I was ready and until five years later. Correct, correct, Yeah,

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00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: I was hired by a gentleman name Quinn Colepepper who

688
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Speaker 1: gave me a shot. I had done a soundtrack at

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Speaker 1: Screen James when I was in Atlantic, and that's how

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Speaker 1: I do with my relationship with him. And then I

691
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: got even closer to him on the set of Takers.

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Speaker 1: Uh p. I introduced me to Quint again on the

693
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: set of Takers, and that is the evening that I

694
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: met Will for the first time. My mouth producing party.

695
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: Now eight hundred million dollars when I say that, what

696
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: runs through your mind at the box office? Um? Eight

697
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Now here's a lesson for your listening audience.

698
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Box office numbers are great if you have a piece

699
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: of ownership. I don't have a piece of ownership at

700
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: any of that eight million dollars. That's what my movies made.

701
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: I didn't own those movies, and studios owner those movies.

702
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: When you got brothers like Tyler who owned their films

703
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: and they get a majority of that dollar that comes back.

704
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: For every single dollar that goes out, he's getting a

705
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: large percent of that money coming back. And that's what

706
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: we got to strive as people to work towards as

707
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: the ownership. We are formidable, we are based when it

708
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: comes to create a content and providing entertainment for the audiences.

709
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: We create culture, but we have to start having a

710
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: stake and ownership in that culture. And right now that

711
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: is what Will and I are striving towards, is more

712
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: ownership of our catalogs UM but you know none. Nevertheless,

713
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: it is impressive that so many people have enjoyed our films,

714
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: but we and well you know where the company is

715
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: headed and building up that library of titles ownership or

716
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: that library is a goal and also diversifying what we do. UM.

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Speaker 1: The movie that's coming out this weekend, it is our

718
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: first drama like it is a romance drama. It's not

719
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: a romantic comedy, it's not a comedy, it's not a thriller.

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00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: Is a straight up adult black love romance and that's

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00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: something new for us as a company. And we're working

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00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: hard to make sure that we diversify the types of

723
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: movies that we're making so that we're not just eating

724
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: off of comedy but offer everything. Right, I tell you,

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00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking to James Lopez. He's the president of Will

726
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: Packer Production. Has a new movie out this weekend called

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00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: The Photograph. We'll come back. We get more details because

728
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Speaker 1: and had a movie out here like this, like says

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Speaker 1: love Jones Born Loren stay kneel long. That's what he's

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Speaker 1: talking about. Money Making Conversation. Be right back with more

731
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Speaker 1: from Marsa McDonald. The money Making Conversations don't touch that dog.

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations continues online at www dot money Making

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00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: Conversations dot com and follow money Making Conversations on Facebook, Twitter,

734
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: and Instagram. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time you stop thinking

735
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: about your dreams and put some plans into action. Hi,

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00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: just ra Sean McDonald. You're listening to money Making Conversations.

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00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking to James Lopez. Long time, long time gentlemen.

738
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: Met him when he was senior vice president marketing for

739
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: Atlantic Records. Now he's um breaking down information about my listeners,

740
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: about about the aut of the deal and being a

741
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: bigger player in the deal. More importantly, he's on the

742
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: show to day to talk about his new movie. Like

743
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: he told before we went to break, he said, they've

744
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: diversifying the portfolio, moving out of the comedy laden drama

745
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: where they had so much success in to a romantic drama.

746
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: What really pushed this envelope beside a great script and

747
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to diverse diversify your portfolio, I think the reason

748
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: why we sparked to the photographs. First of all, I

749
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: started off, yes, with a great script like Sella McGhee wrote,

750
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: a beautiful project. Um, she is also a director of

751
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: This is a very personal project for her and we

752
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: wanted to jump on boards and help her fulfill her

753
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: vision and bring the screen. So we're very proud of

754
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: being a part of this. But um, we just felt

755
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: like it's been such a long time since the core

756
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: African American audience has received a love story. Um, and

757
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned Love Jones. You know that was twenty plus

758
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: years ago. So we loven okay seven and you know,

759
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: we we just felt like it was time to make

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00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: another black love story that wasn't based around trauma. You know. Unfortunately, Um,

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00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of great films that are

762
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: created and cater to the African American audience. But when

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00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: it comes to love, there's always a betrayal or out

764
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: of wed like child or somebody got killed, stalker. You

765
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: know this is straight just two black folks loving each

766
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: other or trying to figure out love. I just say.

767
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: But it also is about generations. It's about UM gets

768
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: to raise character who has just lost her mother and

769
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: through a series of letters, is finding out more about

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00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: the woman her mother was and the mistakes and love

771
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: that her mother may have made, and to make sure

772
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: that she's not going to repeat the same mistakes her

773
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: mother made. So we are watching When you watch the film,

774
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: you're watching two stories separated by thirty years. So it's

775
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: about generational love as well. And it's a very movie

776
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: and touching. UM. And you know, I think, uh, I

777
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: think folks will enjoy it. It's a great date night.

778
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: It's a perfect, perfect date that the movie is coming

779
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: out on Valentine's Day. It's a long weekend, so you know,

780
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: everyone listening to take your special someone to go check

781
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: this out because you're gonna love it. And the music

782
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. Absolutely, Um, it has to be another another

783
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: fellow Houston Natives, Robert glasp Uh, the score awesome. Congratulations.

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00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: You know we get not that spread that way. You know.

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00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: The beauty of listening to you talk, James. First of all,

786
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: you sound just the same. You sound just as uh,

787
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, you give our information. Uh. That's what always

788
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: impressed me about you is that you're informative and you

789
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: and you really know how to hit all of the

790
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: right deal points of the conversation. But one thing I

791
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: always liked a boy, Will because when I did the

792
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: first movie with him, I think like im and he

793
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: always knew how to select talent that was on the

794
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: rise about the pop. He was always good at that.

795
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: You look at his movies. He always gets that talent

796
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: right when it's about to because he does that really well.

797
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: And like in that case, it was it was Kevin Hard.

798
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: I knew about Kevin Hard, and I know when we

799
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: sold the movie Steve and Steve Harving, I sold the

800
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: movie to screen. James was just Clint and he was

801
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: because I told Will know. At first I said, no, Will,

802
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do the movie with you. And then

803
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: he brought in Clinton and they came down to Dallas

804
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: and we rode around on Steve's property, convinced me and hey,

805
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: this is the right people, We got the right idea. Well,

806
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: we will make this, make this be a winner. And

807
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: then he said, I said, who goes, Who's gonna do

808
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: the lead? He said, Karen Hard. I said, Kevin Hard.

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00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: He said, Sean, He's he's about to break. Man, He's

810
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: he's about to break. He's about to do that. And

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00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: so I turned on. I look over the two stars

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00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: that are at the top of your list here Sa

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00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: Ray and the Ki Stanfield. Yeah, okay, now Stanford, let's

814
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: could go back a little bit the Atlantic series. Okay,

815
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: that's when I first discovered him. And I went and

816
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: I was telling my friends, I said, this do right here,

817
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: this dude is talented, this dude this funny. Yeah, I mean,

818
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: you know mckith thought, you know, he wasn't get out

819
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: as well. Um, he was in Uncut Gems with Adam

820
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: Sandler that that had a nice run a couple of

821
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: months ago. Keith been mckith has been working, I mean

822
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: who he has been working? I mean, but but all

823
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: platforms though, all platforms. Oh, yes, yes, he has been working.

824
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: And obviously you know he's used to used to raise

825
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: the Queen, like you know, creating the show Insecure for

826
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: HBO and all the things that she's been doing. Um.

827
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: But we yeah, we we take pride on on, you know,

828
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: making sure that in every one of our movies we have,

829
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: um people who are about to pop or or or

830
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: or have have recently come on the scene. In this

831
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: particular one, I think you guys are gonna really enjoy

832
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: an actress by the name of Chante Adams. She played

833
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: Ray's mother in the past thirty years in the past.

834
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Speaker 1: And when I tell you this girl put his work,

835
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: her performance is amazing. Um. Your listeners may or may

836
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: not know her from a Netflix movie on the rapper

837
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: Rocksman Shante. It was a Netflix movie called Rockman Roxtan.

838
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: Remember that chant played the Roxanne in that movie in

839
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: that Netflix. Um, and she is just an incredible performer

840
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: and she does such a beautiful job of a rack

841
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: in this film. So let me ask you this. Let

842
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: me ask you this because your producer on the movie.

843
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: What exactly does a producer do on this especially this

844
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: particular movie with the photograph. Well, I'll tell you my

845
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: role in this one. Um. When when Will and I

846
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: first started producing together, Um, before I joined the company.

847
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: He took the meeting with Star regarding this particular project.

848
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 1: She had not written it yet, it was just a treatment.

849
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: And um. When I joined the company, which was like

850
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: a year later, she had written the script and it

851
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: was floating around town and uh, I've read it, and

852
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, we need to be doing

853
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: this movie. This this could be this generation. And I said,

854
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: word for it. This could be this generations, love Jones.

855
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: We should be making this movie. So I go to Will,

856
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I read the photograph. I know you took

857
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: a meeting with her about a year ago, but you

858
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: should read this script. It's really good. He read it,

859
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: He was I agree. I said, we need to take

860
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: this in the universal and fight for it and set

861
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: it up. So we did. They brought the script and

862
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: we spent the next year and a half and two

863
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: years developing it from several drafts and got it to

864
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: the point where we got the studio of the Green

865
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: like this now. Um. So during that process and producer

866
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: and working with the writer to hone in on the script,

867
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: get it to the you know, get it, get it,

868
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: addressing notes, getting it ready to share with cast. We

869
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: talked about cast who's available in the time frame that

870
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: we want to shoot the film. You know, who, who

871
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: do we think would have the best chemistry. You go

872
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: through that process. You know, I'm you know, I'm hiring

873
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: a line producer who comes up with the schedule and budget.

874
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: We're making decisions about where we're gonna shoot the film.

875
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: You know, the New York plays a character in the film,

876
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: so we you know that it was a filmmaker's vision

877
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: to shoot the film in New York. Not a lot

878
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: of films shoots here, um, and you know, so we

879
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: won that. Then then it's about putting the crew together.

880
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: You know, who's going to be the director of photography,

881
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: who's going to be the cost and designer. You know

882
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,959
Speaker 1: who's going to be the production designer, who's gonna help

883
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: cast the movie? The casting direct there, so we you know,

884
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: you put all those people together, get them approve, get

885
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: them on on the team, and you start building your

886
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: crew to execute the script all the time while you're

887
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: sharing the script with agents and managers to get the

888
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: cast one. As you get through all that, you go

889
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: into pre production. Pre production on this film was eight weeks,

890
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: and in that eight week time period, you're scouting your

891
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: building sets if needed. You know, the costume designer is

892
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: showing options for the characters. You have your director, photography,

893
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: who building their crew, their camera operators. With the lighting

894
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: is gonna look like your story boarding shot. Listening, so

895
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: much goes into it before you start, and then you're

896
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: on set. We shot this movie over seven weeks six

897
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: which we're in uh New York in one week in museum,

898
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: and then you go into post production, which is a

899
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: twenty two week period where you're editing your sound mixing.

900
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: During that time period, our director she had expressed, um

901
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: the desire to have Robert Glass for score the film.

902
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: So without her knowing, I went off and got Robert Glass.

903
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, I got a whole of them. We had

904
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: a meeting. I'm like, look with you ashtown boys do this.

905
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: I took him to the studio. Robert had never scored

906
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: a movie. Um, so I convinced the studio, hey give

907
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: this brother, uh um, he's the world of now jazz musician.

908
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: He could score it, he could score his music. He

909
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: could score this film with his ice clos um. And

910
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: then I, you know, once the studio approved, and then

911
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: I haven't sit down with Sella and they worked out

912
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: the vision for what she wanted the sound to be

913
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: in this movie. Um, and now we're here that is

914
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: producing my Man. That's a journey A lot of people

915
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: needed to hear for the first time on my show

916
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: because the shooting period is just seven weeks. You know,

917
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Speaker 1: free was a post pre was eight and then post

918
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Speaker 1: was twenty two. That was thirty weeks, and then there

919
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: was almost two and a half years to get it

920
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: approved right and when you first when you first walked

921
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: through was introduced to it. She didn't even have a script.

922
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: She said, she had her treatment, our concept. So so

923
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of trust in that process to get

924
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: to the point that we see the movie photograph. But

925
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: I don't want to link on the process. A couple

926
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: of there's more people in this movie my man courting

927
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: to be advances in this movie where I love and

928
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: even though there was a drama, you got my man.

929
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: Little Real, who everybody knows from get out, one of

930
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: the funniest comics, one that has a specialized last November

931
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: that was outstanding called Little Real my Man. He plays

932
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: mckith brother in this movie, and then uh and then

933
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: and Lookeith. He's funny too, and so then you have

934
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: Issa Ray who I saw a little and I became

935
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: a bigger fan. I actually became a bigger fan of

936
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: her in the movie Little that you guys also did

937
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: and did very well at the box office. I think

938
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: last May and uh and it's playing right now. If

939
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: you don't know, it just goes to it's on pay

940
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: for viewers also the many HBO Little And so when

941
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: you when you see a movie like this being put

942
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: out there, you still have a little touch of I

943
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: think that you know you can you can bring You're

944
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: not trying to do a comedy movie, but you do

945
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: have guys who can bring that comedy moment just to

946
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: break the ice. Correct, Yeah, correct, there's moments where you know,

947
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: the audience, we break the ices. It's not a drama

948
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: all the way through. Um. So every every once in

949
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: a while you'll get a chuckle, you'll get a laugh

950
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: in the right places. Um, but it does tug at

951
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: the heartstrings another after I want to bring up who's

952
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: in there. There's two of them actually, Um, Calvin Harris Jr.

953
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: Who the audience may not be familiar with the name,

954
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: but you are familiar with the face. He This young

955
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: brother is I say, I feel it's going to be

956
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: up for Academy Award one day. He is. He's done

957
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: phenomenal work in so many other movies this past two years.

958
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: But he's working literally nonstuff. I believe the photograph was

959
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: its fifth movie that he shot in twenty nine nineteen. Sorry, Um,

960
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: he did five movies last year. Um. He was in

961
00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: a movie called Ways, He's in another movie called Rise,

962
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: in a movie called Loose opposite. Uh, I tell you

963
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: miss Spencer. But he's just a phenomenally young actor. He's

964
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: in the movie Jasmine sessas Jones within the movie, and

965
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: so is my boy Rob Morgan. Right, I don't know

966
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: if I don't know if you've seen Just Mercy, but

967
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: Rob if y'all seen it, Robber was the one that

968
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: went to the electric chair. Oh yeah, oh yeah, when

969
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: they when when you were clanking all the the let

970
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: him know that they were with him, Let him know

971
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't he was not down there by himself. It's

972
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: a very good movie. There was a powerful moment that movie. Yeah,

973
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: that brother has some powerful moments in our movie. U

974
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: reading emotional uh moment. Well, you know my biggest takeaway

975
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: when I listened to your projects and watch your project again.

976
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: Congratulations graduations, Will and I will know. I've been a

977
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: fan before he brought any movie project to him, to me,

978
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: to Steve, and I'll just start promoting on our radio

979
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: show for Matt. And that's why I kind of I

980
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: built this format to be able to have power, to

981
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: be able to put another layer of information of not

982
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: only about the people who are who are starting in

983
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: front of the cameras behind the camera, but you guys

984
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: all have stories, you know, samm Let's say, but Sammy,

985
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: just State University is proud of what you're doing. Four

986
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: years playing football over there before you roll out to

987
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: l A, realized that you can your dreams can't be possible.

988
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: And then this movie again, the photograph. I want to

989
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: call my friend because of the fact that I trusted

990
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: him and we we've known each other over years and

991
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: I followed him and he's followed by my success. And

992
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: we were on the phone that they just talk about

993
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: another great moment, a great moment in our lives where

994
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: we're about to, you know, set a different pattern for

995
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: what the movie could be. I know that they always

996
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: project have they put a projection on what the box office?

997
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: Maybe this weekend. Yeah, I don't even like to talk

998
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: about it now. Don't talk about don't talk about it,

999
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: don't talk about that, don't talk don't all. I don't

1000
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: wanted to do well, and I want I want our

1001
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 1: folks to come out and support and really talk about

1002
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: this film. And I on them walking out with a

1003
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: greater sense of love for who they're with, who they

1004
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: want to be with. But also I think a lesson

1005
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: that's learned from this film is we learned how to

1006
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: love from our parents. And when you watch this film

1007
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: and you're watching the Parallel Stories thirty years apart um,

1008
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, we pick up a lot of positive things

1009
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: from our parents as well as negative. And we learned

1010
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: how to love because we've watched them love and that's

1011
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: what this movie're talking about. That's a beautiful the statement

1012
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: again starting the Easter ray a man uh like Keith Stanfield.

1013
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: It's called The Photograph. It's coming out this weekend for

1014
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: all you couples out there, for all you people who

1015
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: want to sit down and hold hands as we can,

1016
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: this is the movie to watch. James Lopez, thanks for

1017
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: coming to my show talking about your talking about your

1018
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: pass and talking about your future. My friend eight hundred

1019
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: million dollars in counting, because they're gonna start counting this weekend.

1020
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: Man again. All right, next, you're coming to bad On. Yep, honey,

1021
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: I'll be right there. Just gotta turn out the light.

1022
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: Oh oh, some thing's never change, like your kids always

1023
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: leaving tiny toys on the floor for you to step

1024
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: on and gango saving folks lots of money on their

1025
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Speaker 1: car insurance. Sweetie, I think I left the downstairs light on.

1026
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Speaker 1: Please don't make me go. Fifteen minutes could save you

1027
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Speaker 1: or more. Look for your children's eyes to see the

1028
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Speaker 1: true magic of a forest. It's a storybook world for them.

1029
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Speaker 1: You look and see a tree. They see the wrinkled

1030
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: face of a wizard with arms outstretched to the sky.

1031
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: They see treasuring pebbles. They see a windy path that

1032
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: could lead to adventure, and they see you. They're fearless.

1033
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Speaker 1: Guide through this fascinating world. Find a forest near you

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1037
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: just waiting for the And there they go, almost on time.

1038
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: This morning, Mom is coming out the front door, strong

1039
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: with a double arm kid carry. Looks like dad has

1040
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh but

1041
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere.

1042
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: Oh but mom has just nailed the perfect car seat

1043
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: buckle for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, who

1044
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: looks to be about nine or ten, has secured herself

1045
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,479
Speaker 1: in the booster seat. Dad zips the bad clothes and

1046
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: they're off. Ah, but looks like mom doesn't realize her

1047
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: coffee cup is still on the roof of the car

1048
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: and there it goes. Ah. That's a shame that mug

1049
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: was a fan favorite. Don't sweat the small stuff. Just

1050
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: nailed the big stuff, like making sure your kids are

1051
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,760
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Speaker 1: to American Island. He's on the show today to talk

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Speaker 1: about many of his ventures, including the release of his

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Speaker 1: new single, let Go Please. Welcome to Money Making Conversation

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Speaker 1: for the very first time, three times Grammy nominated Artists,

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Speaker 1: Songwriter and musician Molly Music's been going, Man, hey, they

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Speaker 1: got I have to set you up. Man. You know

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Speaker 1: when when you're on my show for the first time,

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Speaker 1: I let you know I got love, I got respect

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Speaker 1: for you, and I'm about to catch the love from

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Speaker 1: the free throw line, Like, hey man, how you doing that?

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Speaker 1: I'm done really good right now where you where you're

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Speaker 1: sitting there talking to me? Talking to me at I'm

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles right now, cooling off and getting my

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Speaker 1: bones rested back up from shooting a video yesterday and

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Speaker 1: now with Jonathan mc renolds. Awesome, awesome, ye'all. I was

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Speaker 1: in the l A. In fact, I was in like Friday.

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Speaker 1: You know that I said it was still mourning the

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Speaker 1: passing of Kobe. You know that it it was crazy,

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Speaker 1: you know, just left and left. You know, it just stays.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's really crazy. Because you know, the busses

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Speaker 1: in front of them to say rest in peace, Kobe.

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Speaker 1: When you drive by every every every billboard is available

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Speaker 1: that hasn't been bought. It's been flipped out to some

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Speaker 1: type of commentary about what this young man did. And

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Speaker 1: then when I you know, I only only bring that

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Speaker 1: up because you move your music, and because I listened

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Speaker 1: to your new cut let go, and then and then

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Speaker 1: I went back and I stepped back and listened to

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Speaker 1: some of your earlier cuts. And you you're a storyteller,

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Speaker 1: but your your story is also tap into emotions that

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Speaker 1: anything is possible, you know, And where did that come from?

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Speaker 1: Because I looked at your background, your your Phoenix boy.

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Speaker 1: You're born in Phoenix. Okay, that's that's hot hot dessert

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Speaker 1: over there. And then you grew up in the in

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Speaker 1: the Southern South. Good food Savannah, Georgia. Talk to me

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Speaker 1: about that. Well, yeah, my mom being in the military

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Speaker 1: and before. It's just a pleasure to be on the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm already such a fan. And

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Speaker 1: all the cultivation and the fertilizing that you're bringing into

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Speaker 1: the young and old minds, I really appreciate it. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad to be a part of this. Thank you. Um

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Speaker 1: but yeah, Phoenix, Arizona, and you know that on a

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Speaker 1: flight straightway to my grandmother, uh great grandmother Rose Lax.

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Speaker 1: And she had a church name Loving Faith. She operated

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Speaker 1: under the Apostolic which I didn't really understand the depth

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Speaker 1: of until really later. You know, because you have preachers, pastors, teachers, healers,

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Speaker 1: you have many different sextions inside of it. But it's

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Speaker 1: a gift and a rare thing when somebody embodies many

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Speaker 1: of them with humility. That was a lady who kind

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Speaker 1: of raised me and also who kind of broke me in,

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Speaker 1: so she saw the gift in me early. I'm I'll

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Speaker 1: tell the story to my family all the time. I'm

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Speaker 1: six or seven years old, shaking in front of her

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Speaker 1: congregation by her commanded me to come up there, and

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Speaker 1: I'm crying and my sisters and cousins getting tired of

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Speaker 1: like boy, just come on, and I'll cry and I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at her like can I get down? And She'll

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Speaker 1: say no, just say no, and then she'll give me

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Speaker 1: the like like you ready, And I'll go into this

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Speaker 1: song and I'll saying I still have joy, I still

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Speaker 1: have joy? I said all the things I've been too

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Speaker 1: still have joy and you know, and then I'll get finished,

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Speaker 1: thinking that she'll be proud of It's just say sing

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Speaker 1: it one more time with feeling. And I think that

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what changed it, because by the time

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't finish singing it again, I would open up

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Speaker 1: my eyes and it wouldn't be a dry in the room.

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Speaker 1: Mom won't be crying. Mom my sisters and my my

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Speaker 1: cousins would be paying attention and proud of me, and

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Speaker 1: there was something that would come out. So she just

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Speaker 1: always taught me to get over that fear and let

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Speaker 1: me know that it wasn't real. It wasn't gonna do

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Speaker 1: nothing but stop me, and uh and and me breaking

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Speaker 1: through that and singing was really good. My mom identified

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Speaker 1: that gift early, and they cultivated it and caught it,

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Speaker 1: caught it quick, and I was able to get busy early. Man. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting because I had a very

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Speaker 1: early church experience. I was seven years old, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they called me to the front of the church. You know,

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Speaker 1: I remember the church, Sunlight Baptist Church. That's the church

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Speaker 1: right at the corner, you know, because it's like trauma

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Speaker 1: you know, they called me up there and and I

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Speaker 1: couldn't sing, so I can only talk. And I remember

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Speaker 1: I told him that, I just said, I want to

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Speaker 1: be a place where you can change my life, because

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Speaker 1: if you change my life, I can make somebody else

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Speaker 1: life better. And then they went did this come from

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Speaker 1: a seven year old boy? All? I was just speaking.

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Speaker 1: I was just speaking. I was just speaking. And uh.

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Speaker 1: But but like you, I didn't have mentors that kept

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Speaker 1: me straight. You know, I just went out into the

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Speaker 1: world just learning on the fly. And I learned on

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Speaker 1: the fly and and and nothing wrong with the path

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Speaker 1: that I've taken, because I've done nothing wrong. But but

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Speaker 1: what I hear is your storytelling is these mentors, These

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Speaker 1: these people who these important values that females put into

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Speaker 1: your life. It gave you a soul or suftness to

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Speaker 1: be able to share with us do music. Absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: it was also a lesson inside of it too. You

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Speaker 1: say mentors, I say like gatekeepers. And these are people

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Speaker 1: who kind of helped me through, like um, get through

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Speaker 1: certain access points. You know, I'm on top of it.

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Speaker 1: There was was a vicarious blessing inside of me that

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Speaker 1: they didn't want to see tainted thwarted exploited are are

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Speaker 1: used negatively, so there was kind of responsibility on people

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Speaker 1: around me to protect me. Um I guess in them too,

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Speaker 1: especially with me doing it young, so they kind of

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Speaker 1: took it upon themselves. The hard part was getting over

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Speaker 1: and passed when that, when that security and council and

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Speaker 1: mentor ship was done, when I was actually at the

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Speaker 1: at the end of that, and that the cusps and

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Speaker 1: the precipice of what was actually supposed to happen with me.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like everybody, if they're blessed, you get

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Speaker 1: reared from like you know, going into school and when

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Speaker 1: you graduate to twelfth grade, but then when you go

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Speaker 1: on your own that's actually the beginning of your responses life.

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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So all the all the

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Speaker 1: things that you were saying were really good, but I

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Speaker 1: never got nothing done and I never actually made no

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Speaker 1: real money because those were the people who were actually

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Speaker 1: the minds over it. So they were kind of caught

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Speaker 1: the fish right before it fell into my mouth, you

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Speaker 1: get what I mean. And the only thing I was

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Speaker 1: getting at that time is what was dispensed to me.

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Speaker 1: That right there made me very eager to get out

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Speaker 1: there and learn the things that I needed to myself.

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Speaker 1: That taught me the contractual information that I needed to

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Speaker 1: know to find out why they were so drifting to

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Speaker 1: do what they were doing, and to make more we

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Speaker 1: couldn't operate in fear. You know, it's really interesting just

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Speaker 1: hearing your voice and hearing that tone. And you know,

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Speaker 1: because I like to listen to music, especially artists I've

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Speaker 1: never heard before in the dark room, because I was

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Speaker 1: like just being a dark space, because I don't want

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Speaker 1: visuals to interfere with the lyrics, because it really people

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Speaker 1: do that. They realized that, you know, music is really powerful,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, and and it moves me to tears,

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Speaker 1: you know, it can move me to laughter, it can

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Speaker 1: move me to understand. And and then I then I

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Speaker 1: then I started going to your bio and I'm going

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Speaker 1: your influences, Sam Cooking, your influences, oldest reading. I'm going like,

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Speaker 1: what this young board, nobody, this, what this young board

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Speaker 1: nobody that Molly music? What you know about old this?

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Speaker 1: Come on now saying well, I always loved music, and

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Speaker 1: and I was blessed to come up in like a

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Speaker 1: hip hop era and um and also I was like

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Speaker 1: classically influence on piano. So there was a version of

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Speaker 1: my piano playing when my soul was just happy, when

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Speaker 1: I'm out there slapping doing what I loaned. And then

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Speaker 1: that was a version that came when I would be

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Speaker 1: able to implement and showpin and different things that would

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Speaker 1: give me techniques that would bring class and flare. Then

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Speaker 1: church runs will start to sending, the jazz runs, and

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Speaker 1: then art tatum would start to come out of it,

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Speaker 1: and then there will be these different tones like so

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Speaker 1: if I would do things on the piano, the people

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Speaker 1: that would hear it mentors before we say, boy, you

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Speaker 1: need to listen to this, And that's how I got

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Speaker 1: turned onto it. But one of the biggest things was,

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Speaker 1: like I said, coming up in the hip hop era,

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Speaker 1: all of these samples, everything was sample crazy like, and

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Speaker 1: I would be the one that will look and want

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Speaker 1: to hear the original song. So I would. So there

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Speaker 1: would these type of artists that would get simple consistently,

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Speaker 1: and those would be the ones that went. That's how

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Speaker 1: I got really big on James Brown, really big on

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Speaker 1: Ray Charles, really big on Aretha Mahellia, you know, and

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Speaker 1: just started going back. And then as I would look

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Speaker 1: and compare, there will be no black singers that would

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Speaker 1: have that type of electrifying sect for people now, and

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Speaker 1: I wanted to replicate that in what I did. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know the thing I love about, you know, not

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Speaker 1: only the music, but the business side of these individuals.

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Speaker 1: Raych Hall, you know right right right when you read

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Speaker 1: this story and how he contin that's why they had

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Speaker 1: to take him out. You get what I mean. He

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Speaker 1: was right at the beginning of what I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: push forward. You get what I'm saying. I understand what

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Speaker 1: was going on, but you know, man, because you know

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Speaker 1: they were dealing with racism, strong open racism, and the

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Speaker 1: year these brothers going in there saying I gotta have this,

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Speaker 1: I want my rights, I want my I want all

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Speaker 1: back to me or that percentage isn't enough because they

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Speaker 1: know they could just stop playing your music right there.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's when Paola was blatant back then and

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Speaker 1: then and then and to hear you I just got

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Speaker 1: and what it excites musicid Rihan, I know about that.

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Speaker 1: It's music, but I also know the business side of

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Speaker 1: what you're about to talk about. That that part of me.

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Speaker 1: Our relationship just started. Mr Music. Mr Music, eminem M

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Speaker 1: just started brother because because you know, because your culture.

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Speaker 1: You know the thing about my show, money making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: I gotta talk to you. I gotta talk to you

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that I got forty five and

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Speaker 1: up on Lockdown. You know what I'm saying. But you're

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Speaker 1: my future. You're the next twenty years. You're gonna change

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Speaker 1: the face of music. The way we walk and where

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Speaker 1: we talk, clothing styles, all those things are being accepted.

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Speaker 1: Now they're crossing over. You're growing up in the era

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Speaker 1: where you look on TV you see yourself. When I

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Speaker 1: grew up, I had to see I didn't see myself.

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Speaker 1: You know, you see yourself and now you see yourself

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Speaker 1: with with with with with cross racial relationships in commercials

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Speaker 1: and and mixed couples and commercials and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: So there's a journey you're gonna take with your music

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Speaker 1: that's incredible. On the phone, I'm talking to a man

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Speaker 1: who's reaching across all platforms. R and B, hip hop,

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Speaker 1: gospel and urban contemporary. We'll be back to talk about

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Speaker 1: this new single, Let go my man. Don't you go nowhere,

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Speaker 1: and y'all don't go into where money making conversations be

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Speaker 1: right back with my man Molly music. We'll be right

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Speaker 1: back with more from Mars McDonald the Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: Don't touch that dial. Hi, this is Rushan McDonald, the

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Speaker 1: host of Money Making Conversation. You say to yourself, who

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Speaker 1: calls Rushan Shell, Please walk on the Money Making Conversations. Anthony,

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Speaker 1: we met you know us always can you give always

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Speaker 1: talk to you about everything? Everything and looking at you

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Speaker 1: and Steve Harvey. You know that motivated me too because

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Speaker 1: I would see all the amazing things you guys are

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Speaker 1: doing it not just being on the radio like at

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Speaker 1: that time, and even now you know people want to

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Speaker 1: put people in boxes. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: The incredible Nick Cannon. You truly one of them our

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Speaker 1: mentors and one of the people that showed me that

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Speaker 1: you can be most compassive. You know for a fact,

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Speaker 1: now that you're about to capture the audience, it's going

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Speaker 1: to have a spending power for least another twenty years,

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Speaker 1: three years. Like my happiness, money doesn't make you happy,

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Speaker 1: but happy makes your money. Money Making Conversations continues online

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Speaker 1: at www dot money Making Conversations dot com. Well you

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Speaker 1: know this is a money making conversation. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: with Sean McDonald. It's really great to get an artist on.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was birthen of the hot deserts like

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Speaker 1: a phoenix, he rolls up and he took him on

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Speaker 1: over to get that little like like a good gumbo.

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Speaker 1: Took him to Savannah to know, put some shrimp in

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Speaker 1: there with him, put some oakre in there with us,

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Speaker 1: some corn and and and put some some some shrimping

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Speaker 1: that some people chicken in there, pump people crab legs

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Speaker 1: and there, and they shaped the young man who came

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Speaker 1: out of here with this storytelling the ability put him

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Speaker 1: in front of the church when he's younger, and they said, hey,

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Speaker 1: that's not come on, don't worry about those people. Give

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Speaker 1: us what God can can deliver out of you right there,

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Speaker 1: and it's set stage for you who you are today.

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Speaker 1: And I have on my show telling them his side

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Speaker 1: of the story because I can only describe. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a visual communicator, but you have the

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Speaker 1: emotional you have the journey. Mr Music talked to us

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Speaker 1: about why did you do the song this song let Go?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm really excited about the song let Go.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it is a necessary part UM. My

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Speaker 1: last album, the transition of the music that I was

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Speaker 1: released the end of two thousands Things, and Um I

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Speaker 1: was really I was wanting to release another album once.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to in the circumstances I was in

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Speaker 1: at the time. I was with Sony the Way of

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Speaker 1: by Storm, with the Mark Pitts and and those guys

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Speaker 1: over there whoever to help me with the initial album

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Speaker 1: Molly is Um. But there was some understanding issues, or

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Speaker 1: some release issues, or just some conflictual things that was

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Speaker 1: going on that I didn't want to destroy my career,

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Speaker 1: on my future, on my opportunity. There was some love

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Speaker 1: and some understanding there too, so we had to do

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Speaker 1: some things I had to let go there That turned

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Speaker 1: into a lot of business and you know, legal stuff

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Speaker 1: that was going on. And as I was coming out UM,

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Speaker 1: I recognized in order to get back into the groove,

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Speaker 1: I needed to heal first. I needed to extract all

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Speaker 1: the things that I had UM brought in to get

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Speaker 1: where I us. For example, we may see a movie

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Speaker 1: where there's a person who goes to war and and

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Speaker 1: there's a mindset or a level of uh, just a

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Speaker 1: heightened attention spand that they need for their own lives

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Speaker 1: to keeping their head on the swivel in a sense.

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Speaker 1: But once you come back to a place of peace,

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Speaker 1: you have to relearn and readapt peace techniques and and

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Speaker 1: you know, not not fixing your guard, not sharpening your sword,

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Speaker 1: not looking over your shoulder recognizing that it's there. So

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Speaker 1: the let go represents that Um, the fact that you know, Molly,

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Speaker 1: you're out. You know you've made it. God has given

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Speaker 1: you success. Don't be Um. You don't be a prisoner

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Speaker 1: in your mind, even though you were casting into prison.

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Speaker 1: You know, don't be um murderer in your mind, even

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Speaker 1: though God gave you, you know, the head of your enemies.

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Speaker 1: You know, for you to get to where you are.

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Speaker 1: You know, don't be um. Anything negative inside of your

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Speaker 1: mind got equipped you to get where you are now,

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Speaker 1: assigning for you to shake those things off and stand

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Speaker 1: as a king and champion and the representation that God

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Speaker 1: will have me to be. In order to do that,

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Speaker 1: I had to be honest about the things that I

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Speaker 1: had accumulated going up. And it was just very candid

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Speaker 1: and cool, like in the verse I say, it's just

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Speaker 1: the force of the habit. It's right in my way,

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Speaker 1: so I grab it. It's right in my way, so

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Speaker 1: I passed. It's right at the boss saw a glass.

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Speaker 1: It It's a classic attack, like an attic all of

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Speaker 1: the time. I gotta have it. It's right in my

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Speaker 1: way as I passed, you know, and I talked about

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Speaker 1: all of the temptations and all of the reasons why

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to go forward. But it luckily and

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Speaker 1: beautifully lands in the phrase right to the altar to

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Speaker 1: cast it on the shoulders of my Lord. And like

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Speaker 1: all things, that's where I find deliverance. And I believe

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Speaker 1: that all people can get a chance to be set free,

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Speaker 1: because you can't make any money making decisions with bad

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Speaker 1: things on your mind, especially like guilt, anxiety, haste, I fear.

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Speaker 1: Got to be clear headed. You know, it's really great

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Speaker 1: here in your the honesty and of your tone. You know.

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Speaker 1: I I'm you know, Steve Harry and I started to

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Speaker 1: a radio hip hop and R and B in Houston, Houston,

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles in two thousands and uh. We've met many

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Speaker 1: artists over the years, and and so one of the

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Speaker 1: key artists that we met early on was Anthony Hamilton.

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Speaker 1: Another storytelling another story Charlene is one of my all

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Speaker 1: time great songs, my one of my favorites absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: then move forward and my money making conversation platform. I've

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Speaker 1: come to be introduced to my man, Travis Green, and

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Speaker 1: then my boy looked crazy, you know, so to see

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Speaker 1: see see, that's that's you, my man, in the sense

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Speaker 1: that y'all coming forward music that's taking the older generation

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Speaker 1: and bringing us down, you know, bringing us down, you know,

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Speaker 1: because what happens is we got to accept the fact

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Speaker 1: we can't keep listening to old music. We can't listen

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Speaker 1: to keep listening to old jay's and it's hard not

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Speaker 1: to keep listening to Now this is what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: is that because they won't allow them make any new music.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Uh, you know they won't.

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Speaker 1: They won't, they won't. The industry plays it like that,

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Speaker 1: you know, they go, hey, you can't make no more

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Speaker 1: music you want. They'll tell you don't know what, I

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Speaker 1: want to listen to your music. We will keep playing

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Speaker 1: your old music. And so so when we have tality

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Speaker 1: individuals like yourself and I mentioned some earth but just

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Speaker 1: interviewers about you know that your journey is important because

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Speaker 1: it provides a support system for somebody like me to

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Speaker 1: continue to enjoy new music, continue to be emotionally attached

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Speaker 1: to something that can motivate me and get me out

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Speaker 1: of my bed. M I think about UM to communicate

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Speaker 1: to that as well. If there's somebody that's left out,

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Speaker 1: then I don't know if you did a good enough

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01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: job in the music. So there's a song on my

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Speaker 1: album called Molly. On the album Molly is called heavy

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Speaker 1: Love that really I feel resonates with all the generations,

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Speaker 1: just from the first note, the first flap to the end.

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Speaker 1: I feel, you know, from Age to Age of Gold

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Speaker 1: is another song of that name, Beautiful, and I feel

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Speaker 1: that's the same thing, and I look to do a

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Speaker 1: lot of those um you know, tell those stories. It's

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Speaker 1: a song on the transition of Molly name. You should

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Speaker 1: sit down for this, which is what came out of

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Speaker 1: me in the studio in London when I got the

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Speaker 1: phone call that I lost my father from the doctor

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Speaker 1: and it was a really cool moment and I was

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Speaker 1: just linking with Anthony Hamilton's on Grammy Weeks. I went

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Speaker 1: up to the c a a party has a difficulty

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Speaker 1: at the door, and he the one that got me in,

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Speaker 1: so you know, it's really cool that you would say that,

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Speaker 1: and to speak to the honesty coming from coming from

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Speaker 1: the church and coming from the heart of love. I

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Speaker 1: always looked forward to meeting a person that probably would

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Speaker 1: come at living for God like I'm doing now. I

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Speaker 1: guess I always look to do it, but I never

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Speaker 1: saw it. I always would see people take the responsibility

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01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: to dress God up. They would take they would think

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Speaker 1: that He would be not good, so they would put

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Speaker 1: a tie on it or or put a wash rag

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Speaker 1: on the things that I would want to see on

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Speaker 1: them to be able to identify with them, which would

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Speaker 1: give God more glory. So instead of going forward and

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Speaker 1: living a double life, they the God categorized me as

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Speaker 1: an R and B or hip hop or slash neo

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Speaker 1: gospel somebody not just gospel, just because I will not

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Speaker 1: succumb to leading mebons of people to believe that I

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Speaker 1: live with life that I do not, or or that

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Speaker 1: I'm interested in things that I am not or are

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Speaker 1: not interested in things. So it's not about that. To

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Speaker 1: God be the glory. And I trust that God is

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Speaker 1: big enough to get the glory and he doesn't need

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01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 1: me lying to get bold so his goodness, if it

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01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 1: works on me, then it can work on other people.

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Speaker 1: And his goodness, it's gonna work on my bad He's

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01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna fix my my my hurt. He's gonna he's gonna

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01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: bring um, he's gonna heal my my pains, He's gonna

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Speaker 1: heal my mind. In order faim to be the same

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Speaker 1: instrumental God that he is in everyone else's life, I

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01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: need to have my own version of anxiety, my own

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01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: versions of fears, my own versions of hesitations. And once

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01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: I bring them to him, and he can not only

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Speaker 1: be a good God in my mouth, but a good

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01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: God in my life. I can have receipts from the

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01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: time for me yielding to him recently, like I just

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01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: got off my knees about this and he answered it.

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Speaker 1: That couple with wealth and success is unstoppable. Love it.

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Speaker 1: Love it. Now you are. I'm on the phone with

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Speaker 1: a man he's influenced by Sam Cook and others reading

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Speaker 1: us three time Grammy nominated Artists, Songwriting Musician. And now

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the because we kind of dipped in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. We was talking about what Dame James

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Speaker 1: Brown was doing and Sam Cook was down in Rachel

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Speaker 1: and many other artists use the CEO of your own

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Speaker 1: business or care Pass enterprises. Tell me why you started

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Speaker 1: that and what is the focus of your business. Well,

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01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about care Food because it's a dream

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01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: come true for me. I was the young boy getting

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Speaker 1: in trouble at school for doodling my production company symbol

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Speaker 1: when I'm supposed to be taking spelling class notes or something.

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Speaker 1: So I always was anticipating being a house that could

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Speaker 1: deliver a specific type of content to the world. As

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Speaker 1: I was coming up, I had to recognize that I

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Speaker 1: was willing to partner and move and negotiate things, and

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Speaker 1: you know where, I would be lending portions of percentages

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Speaker 1: of myself to partners and companies in order to get

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to advance. But if you offer a good portion,

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Speaker 1: it could be very difficult to get off of that. So, um,

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Speaker 1: I never intended on being an artist, but I was

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Speaker 1: glad to open up my mouth to be able to

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Speaker 1: show my colleagues and other artists who were scared that

1478
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: it could actually happen. So I just kind of was

1479
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: the brave one when the more talented people were just

1480
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: more afraid. So I'm like, man, if you just do this,

1481
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 1: and I would do it and it will happen. So

1482
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: that so bravery and or just confidence you know that

1483
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: what you have is good is a is a big

1484
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: deal as well. But artists like my sister and KP

1485
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Speaker 1: and people who are come in contact with Christian Mason,

1486
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: Angelina a re Artists like Travis Green who who would

1487
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Speaker 1: be coming up under the two religit mentoring of what

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Speaker 1: we would be doing in Savannah, Georgia as well, John

1489
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Speaker 1: Den mc reynolds as we would be touring in Chicago,

1490
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: Tousha Cobbs who would be connected with us in the

1491
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: of what we were doing. Dion Kipping who would be

1492
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: connected inside of the surge of what we're doing. He

1493
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: was the first person that traveled me from Savannah, Georgia

1494
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: and my full band up to his surprise birthday party

1495
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: in Connecticut, where I meant youthful praise and and those

1496
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: guys and I just started to trickle up to Hezekaya Walker,

1497
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 1: Donna Lawrence. My life just completely changed, you know, just

1498
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Speaker 1: from this honesty and this walk. So I'm excited about

1499
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Speaker 1: all of it and just really want to encourage everybody

1500
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: to get to that point of openness and forwardness inside

1501
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: of what they're doing. But there was only so much

1502
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: that I could do because I did not earn enough

1503
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: to be able to impact my own life to be

1504
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: able to help anyone else. So I had to find

1505
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 1: out where the money was going. Why was I are

1506
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: you able to companies? How did I accumulate wealth? And

1507
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: could I apply that to my own self? Once I

1508
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: recognized that I could, I needed to attain ownership a

1509
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: game of what it was that was achieving Landing was

1510
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: for me clear the name you know now, I put

1511
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: it inside of a house. That house as K Approved,

1512
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: I will be flagshipping as Molley Music. But it's not

1513
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: about me. It's proof that we can do it. And

1514
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: there's a way that my colleagues and partners and artists

1515
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: and creators can come that we can kind of shortcut

1516
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: a lot of the roundabout ways of searching for the

1517
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: right place. If it's urban, beautiful, inspired by God, spirit breathed,

1518
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: and you have a plan, we can do something with it.

1519
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 1: And that's why I built K Approved to be able

1520
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: to to create another developmental area where people could be

1521
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 1: uh recorded, put out, have an opportunity to make mistakes

1522
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 1: in the community of people of love that loved them,

1523
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 1: and we can create successful uh artists that do different

1524
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 1: types of music, creators that do different types of visuals,

1525
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: and photographers who shoot different types of pictures. I can't

1526
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: change the culture if I can't influence it, and I

1527
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: needed to influence it from my house that I owned awesome.

1528
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: All I know is this my friend. You're special. I got,

1529
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: like you said with Sean Gotta, I gotta do my homework.

1530
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: I gotta go back to Molly Is. I gotta listen

1531
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: to Beautiful, Gotta listen to Heavy Love, Gotta listen to

1532
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: Walking Shoes, Gotta listen to Yalty, gotta listen to Johnny

1533
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: and Donna. I gotta listen to I Believe because what

1534
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: you will not do to me Molly, Mr Molly Music.

1535
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: It's come on my show next time, and I can't

1536
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 1: break down some lyrics to you during the end. If

1537
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: you let you know I believe in you, and I

1538
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 1: let you know how much I believe in you. I

1539
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: said some names to you by artists that you just

1540
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: threw back at me, So I know that's how I

1541
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: know that it was right. Then the same flow let

1542
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: go is out all the digital streams Molly music, My man,

1543
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Speaker 1: I'm calling you my nephew, young and nephew. Whenever you

1544
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Speaker 1: need you come on my show because it's for real.

1545
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: It's for real about you. And don't you change? Don't you?

1546
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: Molly is? I gotta downloaded so it canna be on

1547
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Speaker 1: my phone? Hi everyone, I'll roker here as a guy

1548
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1549
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1550
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1551
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Speaker 1: state Forester, and the AD Council. What grows in the

1557
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Speaker 1: forest trees, Sure you know what else grows in the forest.

1558
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Speaker 1: Our imagination, our sense of one day, and our family

1559
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Speaker 1: bonds grow too, because when we disconnect from this and

1560
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Speaker 1: connect with this, we reconnect with each other. The forest

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1567
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Speaker 1: face of a wizard with arms outstretched to the sky.

1568
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Speaker 1: They see treasure in pebbles. They see a windy path

1569
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Speaker 1: to you by the United States Forest Service and the

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Speaker 1: AD Council. My next guest is from Flint, Michigan. Yes,

1574
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 1: Sir Ree is a two time w BC super middleweight

1575
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: champion and activists of philanthropists, sports analysts with Fox Sports,

1576
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 1: and the epitome of a champion whether he is inside

1577
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: or outside of a boxing ring. They also tell me

1578
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: that he makes a mean sweep potato pie. Really okay,

1579
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: let's hear about that. He's talking to the baking expurp

1580
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: please walking to money making conversation, my man, Anthony Durrell.

1581
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: How you guys doing now? How they're gona how they're

1582
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,560
Speaker 1: gonna put a mean sweepertato in your credit And I

1583
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 1: don't see those sweepertato in your I can do it.

1584
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: If you could do it, I got my grandma rest. Okay,

1585
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: that's all you can do is just to sweepertato pie.

1586
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: Can you do it? You know I can cook up.

1587
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: My mama raised me to be a uh independent guy. Okay.

1588
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:44,560
Speaker 1: My mom and my grandfather. You know, I went to

1589
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: little with my grandfather when I was like thirteen. I

1590
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 1: think he took us over because my mom, you know,

1591
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 1: we had six we had I got five brothers and

1592
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: sisters and six kids for her was a lot lot.

1593
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: And I understood, you know why we did that. Just

1594
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 1: being around the ladies in my family, my grandmother, my

1595
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: my mom, sisters, hunts. You know, I learned, you know,

1596
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 1: all I gotta do is watch. If I watch, I

1597
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: can learn how to cook. My uncle can cook. I mean,

1598
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,799
Speaker 1: I don't know a guy in my family that can't.

1599
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: So I cook it all. So I went, it's almost

1600
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, you said, you know, you're

1601
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 1: kind of bragging here in front of me. We're nothing

1602
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: in your hands, like listen, I was, So I went

1603
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: to camp one time. It was Thanksgiving time, and like

1604
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: I wanted foods, so I cooked some sweet potatoes. The

1605
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: only thing I didn't cook with the turkey. You know

1606
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: I usually cook at turkey. I cooked the sweet potatoes,

1607
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: I cooked the greens. Yeah for sure I couldn't. So,

1608
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, because I know a lot of people use

1609
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: that can stuff that ain't what I do. What kind

1610
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: of meat you put in that's just a smoked turkey.

1611
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a bacon guy. I mean, you know you

1612
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: can do that too. You know you can do that too,

1613
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: but that smoked turkey give it that smoke taste. So

1614
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: my mama told me that, like you said, you she

1615
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: shaped you to be an independent man. And but your

1616
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: whole life is tied to being independent, being yourself, following

1617
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: your voice. Tell me a little bit about who you are,

1618
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Durrell. I'm a I'm a professional fighter. You know,

1619
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: that's not what I want to I want to be known.

1620
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: That's just the helper, you know, somebody that goes out

1621
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: there to help people, you know, especially before you is

1622
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: a professional fighter. I'm a boxer. I I've been doing

1623
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: this since I was nine years old, So that's really

1624
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: you know what people think, I just know, but I

1625
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 1: love boxing, boxing, what is my life? You know, that's

1626
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: how you know I got to the position that I'm

1627
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: in and I'm grateful for my grandfather got me in

1628
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: when I was like I say, nine, and I'm just

1629
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: so happy that to be in this position, I had

1630
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: to fight for everything. You know, when I lost the

1631
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: world tighter to when I got it back then just

1632
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: lost it again. But you know, good things and how

1633
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: do you deal with those highs and lows? As Because

1634
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: my show Money Making Conversation tells people about overcoming the

1635
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: odds that you know, you have to have a plan

1636
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 1: when you get knocked out and to come just sit

1637
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: back up or walk straight when people think you should

1638
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: be you're running. You just you just have to keep

1639
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 1: you have to believe it in your mind that you

1640
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: know you can keep moving forward. A loss is just

1641
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: something to get you to the next step. Everybody takes

1642
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: a loss. Of the grades took a loss, absolute Mohammed

1643
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 1: Ali took a loss. And that's not even it. If

1644
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 1: you look at the successful business owner, they took a

1645
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: loss and some time, but they still persevered and got

1646
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 1: past that that that hurdle, that was in front of

1647
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: them and then succeeded to be million or a billionaires.

1648
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: I only put boxing glows on one time in middle

1649
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: school when out there swinging, I did my forces for

1650
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: swings and my arm just dropped to my sides. I

1651
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: couldn't pull them up no more. That let me know

1652
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: that this is not what I what you can do.

1653
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: It's not easy. It's not easy, but but you you

1654
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 1: make it look easy. Is that just okay? Nine years old,

1655
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 1: you put on the gloves. How much did they weight?

1656
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 1: They were? Uh, that's that's pretty heavy because you're swinging,

1657
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: and I learned that when you miss, it takes a

1658
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: lot more out of you. It definitely does, definitely does.

1659
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: It's it's you know, I've been doing it for twenty

1660
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 1: six years, so since I was nine years old. Thirty

1661
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: five now, so twenty six years. It's it's a long time,

1662
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: specially give use of something. You know. I can't if

1663
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: I go play basketball, I can't compete with a guy

1664
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 1: who've been doing it twenty six years. I just you know,

1665
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 1: I'm picking. I know how to do it, but I'm

1666
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,799
Speaker 1: not as good as that person. So when somebody perfect

1667
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: their craft, you know, it's it's tough to get them

1668
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 1: out or it's you know, it's easier for that guy

1669
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: too to keep going. Like I can go into the

1670
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 1: ring now me not throw a punch since my last

1671
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 1: fight and still go probably in rounds. Just knowing how

1672
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 1: to get through the process. The technique that too, and

1673
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 1: and you know, you gotta know how to conserve. You

1674
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: gotta make that fighter on the other side think that

1675
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: you're not tired or something that's coming if you come in.

1676
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's just stuff. Like it's just

1677
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: little things. If you do the little things, and this

1678
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 1: is not just boxing and anything, you can get fired.

1679
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: The little things matter. It's not the big things that

1680
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 1: everybody sees. The little thing. Well, it's really interesting because

1681
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you and you know your you know

1682
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 1: your strength and weaknesses, and your opponent knows your strength

1683
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: and weakness, and I know somethime. Okay, good like that?

1684
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: Like that now, because and you use the analogy about

1685
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 1: business a lot too, and in your sports and about

1686
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: overcoming the odds, about knowing how to market yourself, knowing

1687
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: how to prepare, knowing how they and even business people

1688
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: make mistakes. Nobody has a perfect business No, Apple has

1689
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: not put out a product that walked off the stores.

1690
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: That's why they keep coming off phones every year. Absolutely.

1691
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: And so with that being said, you as an individual, uh,

1692
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: you know, we all know with athleticism, is you know

1693
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,759
Speaker 1: the biggest champion or that you have to fight this age?

1694
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: Does that? Does that work in your mind? I have

1695
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: that that that's setting your mind. That are You've already

1696
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 1: prepared to say, Hey, I'm going to do this. So

1697
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm planning to do this with my life when I'm

1698
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: for the fifty sixty or whatever. So my plan when

1699
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: I when professional to retire at thirty five, I'm thirty five.

1700
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 1: Now I lost my I lost my last fight. But

1701
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: me being the competitor that I am, I can't go

1702
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 1: out on the loss and I have to I want

1703
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: another fight. If the championship fight comes this year, it comes,

1704
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: but after this year, I'm done. And I already have

1705
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: my mind made up of what I wanna do. I

1706
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: want to I want to start multiple business, not just one.

1707
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 1: And I want to push other people and motivate other

1708
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: people to do the same. You know, when they retire,

1709
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 1: like in athletics, in any sport, I think it should

1710
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: be mandatory that you take a class on how to

1711
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 1: manage your money because because there there there's no help

1712
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: like you give these kids. And I when I say kids,

1713
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: it's kids. It's nineteen and twenty year olds, millions and

1714
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,600
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. They only can do one thing, but

1715
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: that's spending because they didn't go to school or don't

1716
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 1: have nobody with them to show them the correct way

1717
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 1: to go. If I can take if I can go

1718
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 1: back to my beginning of my career right now, I

1719
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 1: would invest in so much more than I am now

1720
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't even need I wouldn't need to do

1721
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: nothing else for the rest of my life. And we

1722
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: have to admit we all and I was in I

1723
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,759
Speaker 1: was a mortal, you know, and that I forty seemed

1724
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: so far away, you know, It's like it's not ridiculous

1725
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 1: how far away forty was that that number wouldn't even

1726
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 1: exist here, you know. So so we play on the

1727
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 1: on time because we see time as okay, I have

1728
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: end this time. We're thinking you're gonna do something forever

1729
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 1: and you're not right, and that's what that's what you've done.

1730
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna get that next And with the athletes like

1731
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 1: you live like, oh, I got a meant to come back,

1732
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 1: but if you get hurt, that's gone. So you gotta

1733
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: have something to fall back on. And me being like

1734
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: you said, us being nineteen and twenty years so we

1735
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: didn't think of that then we thought we can get hurt,

1736
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 1: Oh we'll just come back. No, it's gonna you gotta

1737
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: put some money aside or rainy day. Yes, then that

1738
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 1: that's that's something that everybody can relate to who made

1739
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: a mistake or realize I should save that monem because

1740
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:49,640
Speaker 1: it's as successful. That's I am. I would, man, I

1741
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 1: show I just started saving like that guy told me

1742
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,799
Speaker 1: when I was twenty four, because he told me, he said, hey, hey,

1743
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 1: just fifty dollars every pai per and I kept saying

1744
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,560
Speaker 1: fifty dollars, man, you know what I could do? I

1745
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 1: ain't got time for that. And if I don't just

1746
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 1: listen to him, that fifty dollars may have been a

1747
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 1: maybe an ib im stocked twenty times triple and guess

1748
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 1: what we would need to be talking right now. And

1749
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe, But that's where I think.

1750
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: You know, when you grow up, you learn so much

1751
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: more because you look back on the things that you

1752
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 1: did and reflect like if I would have did this,

1753
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 1: now I can do it, and I'm gonna go do

1754
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: it now, or give it to my kids or another

1755
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: kid that's coming up in the game, or just want

1756
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 1: to do the same thing that I'm doing. You know,

1757
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: you can teach them, you know, the correct way, if

1758
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,640
Speaker 1: they listen or not, you can just put it in

1759
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 1: their ear. Well. You know the thing about it. One

1760
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 1: of the reason I wanted to bring us just like

1761
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: the third we kind of missed you came to town

1762
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: and because of the fact that you had setbacks in

1763
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 1: the early age and so and that's why I always

1764
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: tell people, you know, you don't know what your future.

1765
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: Even as a young person, you might seem like, hey,

1766
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: endless opportunities, but every every day you should feel an

1767
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 1: understand it's a blessing. Now I'm a cancer survivor. You know,

1768
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 1: I was diagnosed that I had cancer in my fifties

1769
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: and it was it was it was it was a

1770
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 1: major when they told me I had cancers, Like you know,

1771
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: it was. I'll tell people when somebody tell you have cancer,

1772
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 1: you you you don't understand what that word does to you.

1773
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 1: You know, you can walk around read about the newspaper.

1774
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: You can read about the statistics and people are surviving.

1775
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: But when they tell you you have it, that's a

1776
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: different conversation because you start thinking immediately death. You meediate,

1777
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care what the stats are out

1778
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 1: there all you because for some reason, that's all you

1779
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 1: think about. Oh my god, it's all my loved ones.

1780
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:45,600
Speaker 1: I want to live a long time. How did you

1781
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 1: react to it, Anthony? So when I had it, I

1782
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: was it was two thousand six, so I think I

1783
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 1: was twenty one. Uh. I didn't really know much about it,

1784
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 1: honestly true. And when I started reading up on it,

1785
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: that's when my I started getting down and down and down,

1786
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 1: because like you say, when you think of cancer, you

1787
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: think of death. I mean that's only that's true. Yeah,

1788
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:17,799
Speaker 1: and that's true. And when I went to the doctor,

1789
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 1: he said that it was a nine percent curable rate.

1790
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,679
Speaker 1: Kind of brought me up, but that medicine still brought

1791
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: me down. Uh. It was. It was tough cancer. It's

1792
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: no joke, you know. I was talking to this. I've

1793
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 1: seen the kids smoking. Uh couldn't have been. I don't

1794
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 1: even think there was eighteen and I said, why you

1795
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 1: smoking because I know what cancer, I know what I

1796
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 1: know what chemo feels like. And they said it doesn't matter,

1797
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die. I was like, yeah, but that's not

1798
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 1: that's not it like when the chemo is just it's

1799
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:53,640
Speaker 1: like it's just worse and death to me. And I

1800
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 1: don't even know what death feels like, but it just

1801
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: seemed like it's worse. It just had me just down

1802
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 1: the time. His body wasn't feeling right. It just had

1803
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,919
Speaker 1: me going through things that that was a challenge. Then

1804
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: you recover correct and then motorcycle without the twilt. So

1805
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:16,560
Speaker 1: at you the point in your life on what that

1806
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 1: what's going on here? You know what, when I did

1807
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 1: get into the motorcycle accident, the first thing I thought

1808
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 1: about was just me living or walking again, just to

1809
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: play with my kids. Uh, that was the first thing.

1810
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 1: But when I knew that it will be okay, like

1811
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 1: I will recover fully it Uh you know what was damage?

1812
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,679
Speaker 1: So I broke my leg So this finger was here,

1813
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 1: this one was here. I mean you can still see it.

1814
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: So your finger moving it cut on your left hand, Yep,

1815
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: it could from this thing. You know, my index fingers

1816
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 1: where my thumb was my thumb is where my risk

1817
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: so and they didn't even know at the time. Oh no,

1818
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: they knew about my hand. They didn't know about my

1819
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 1: leg my leg. I had my bones. They got my

1820
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:11,680
Speaker 1: leg and they didn't they say there's anything else. So

1821
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, my leg is broke. They cut my

1822
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 1: pants and I went into I think I was in

1823
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 1: surgery four hours maybe, so they got a ride and

1824
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: my leg is still in with your hand and my

1825
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 1: leg is broken. So you just dealing with the pain

1826
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 1: at that time. Yeah, I said, y'all gotta give me something,

1827
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 1: and then they hit me with the more. I just

1828
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 1: went into heaven like I could, and I was literally

1829
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 1: like when they say your life flashed before your eyes

1830
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: before death. Honestly, my life literally I've seen everything, Like

1831
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 1: this is no joke, but right before I hit that car,

1832
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 1: I've seen everything. Just I mean, it was like a

1833
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 1: split second, but everything. You can see it clearly. Everything.

1834
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 1: And then I hit the car. But I got up.

1835
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 1: I never blanked out. I got up, but I fell

1836
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: back down and my leg was broke. I got back

1837
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: up again because I didn't know what was wrong, and

1838
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 1: I fell back down. They said stay down, your leg, bro,

1839
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: But my leg was twisted in the back, so my

1840
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: my front, my foot was in the backwards and I

1841
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: had to flick it back or whatnot. But yeah, it

1842
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 1: was It was bad. But I think everything happens for

1843
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: a reason. You know, was I supposed to get that?

1844
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: Should I have been on the motorcycle? Don't know? But

1845
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 1: I was. You know, everything happens for a reason. I

1846
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: think it just makes you a better person, you know it.

1847
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 1: It makes your story better or your story strong. And

1848
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 1: and if I could take something back that in my

1849
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 1: life that happened, I will take I would change nothing,

1850
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 1: because everything happens for a reason. It molded me into

1851
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: who I know. Because when I hear you talk and

1852
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking to two times world middleweight champion, super middleweight, super,

1853
01:39:57,640 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 1: they just put world. I was super. I put super

1854
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 1: right there, super middle super middleweight champion, Anthony Durill. You

1855
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: know I talked about, you know, my lung collapse, you know,

1856
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 1: stay in hospital thirty days. I'll talk about you know,

1857
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling tires I probably shouldn't have been driving a car.

1858
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 1: And I woke up and I'm going I'm five miles

1859
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 1: down the road. Don't remember the five miles and I

1860
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 1: did and I don't even drink, just doing stuff, pushing

1861
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 1: myself physically where I shouldn't have not have pushed myself.

1862
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 1: And so so that's those are the stories I have

1863
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 1: to tell people that, Okay, what I did was stupid

1864
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 1: and I'm alive to tell you it was stupid. So

1865
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 1: that's my role that I played. So when I listened

1866
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 1: to I'm asking you to tell your story because of

1867
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,719
Speaker 1: the fact that as we as young people who listened

1868
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 1: to my show, we put a time long lying on

1869
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 1: I wait, I do that later, and you really don't

1870
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: know what later is or what later can bring you.

1871
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 1: So when people talk about saving money, people talk about

1872
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: get that education, people talk about living your life, pursuing

1873
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 1: opportunities to be given to you and not realizing that

1874
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:05,600
Speaker 1: blessing because you think you can wait. Your experience is

1875
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 1: being chronicle right now for us on this show says

1876
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: do it now, right, You have to live every day

1877
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 1: in that moment. I don't think because tomorrow is not promising.

1878
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 1: You know. We see that from Kobe Bryant and and

1879
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 1: and rest in peace to her and Condos. This goes

1880
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 1: out to his family, but we see that in that,

1881
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 1: but you have to live for the day. You can't

1882
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 1: live for tomorrow. You can't live for the week. You

1883
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 1: have to live for the day. And and that's the

1884
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:36,600
Speaker 1: big thing. That's the thing I don't think you know,

1885
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 1: younger people uh understand about about life. It's life. You

1886
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 1: have to you have to live it in I think

1887
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 1: you live it. You know how you want to live it.

1888
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 1: You know you you you you do things that you

1889
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,600
Speaker 1: want to do. If you don't explore this world or

1890
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,560
Speaker 1: get out and get out your comfort zone, sometime it

1891
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 1: would be I mean, it's just be. It would be that.

1892
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 1: I know some people you know, from my city, Flint, Michigan,

1893
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Speaker 1: who haven't left Flint. We want to talk about that

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Speaker 1: in the next break, because that's really why we have

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Speaker 1: you on the show, because I wanted to be a

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Speaker 1: part of that. You know, I got a lot too

1897
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Speaker 1: many people surrounded me from Flint, you know, Mama Soul,

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Speaker 1: that's my girl out there, you know, And so just

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Speaker 1: let you know how deep I go up there. Okay, Uh,

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Speaker 1: now you said your titler is really uh two times

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Speaker 1: super World mill super middleweight champion Anthony Durrell. We're right back.

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Speaker 1: He's flisted missing and ball. We will come back and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about some causes. He's a you know, he

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01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 1: got his own day up there and everything every year

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Speaker 1: come around. He got this day in the ram day.

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Speaker 1: Everybody know him up there. He's a bad man. He's

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Speaker 1: a bad man. Be right back with more money Make conversations.

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, it's time you stop thinking about your dreams

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Speaker 1: and with some plans into action. I just re Shan mcgonald.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to two times super middleweight champion Anthony

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Speaker 1: Durrell out of flat Michigan. You still stay in flat

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Speaker 1: Grand blank on the oscar. I still stay in Michigan. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'll move when it when something feels right,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to change to your whether. So I

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01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: lived in Chicago five years. So I got closed and

1920
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Speaker 1: I got clothes I can't wear nowhere else but in Chicago,

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01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 1: because you know it hits some snow yesterday before. But

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Speaker 1: I was ready. I was ready. I got from ready,

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Speaker 1: come up and they got with your brother, and you

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Speaker 1: might be a lot more colder than that, being it's

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Speaker 1: all right, But so why do you stay up there?

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Speaker 1: Why is Michigan part of your just part of your

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Speaker 1: your lifestock because you have the money and the success

1928
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Speaker 1: to live anywhere while you're why are you staying in Michigan?

1929
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: Just it feels right. You know, when something feels right,

1930
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Speaker 1: you you kind of stay put. But I can go anywhere.

1931
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, I can vacation any Uh. When it starts

1932
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: feeling wrong, that's when you know I'll have to pack

1933
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 1: my things and move. But until then, you know, I'm

1934
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Speaker 1: a I'm I'm from Flint, you know that's I'm from Michigan.

1935
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Speaker 1: So that's where you know I'll be for I think

1936
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Speaker 1: the remainder of my life. Like I said, I can go,

1937
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: I can travel anywhere, and I think just other places,

1938
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 1: just vacations. You know, home is home. No matter where

1939
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 1: you're at, You're always going to think of where you

1940
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 1: was born and where you grew up. It's it's home.

1941
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:42,679
Speaker 1: Nothing can beat beat home. You this um oh boxing

1942
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 1: you have you know you have UFC out there now,

1943
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, and then you have a wrastling is always

1944
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Speaker 1: out there because in the end, boxing, like any football

1945
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: about it's entertainment. Yeah, it's entertainment. It's entertainment. So so

1946
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Speaker 1: do you consider yourself an ambassador a boxing as you

1947
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Speaker 1: as you as your career transition because you're doing Fox

1948
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 1: Fox Sports. You know, what story are you trying to

1949
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 1: tell about why boxing is not only a good sport

1950
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 1: for young people to get involved in, but also why

1951
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 1: it should be a highly rated entertainment sports. I think

1952
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 1: you know when you got two competitors in their boxing

1953
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 1: risking their life to entertain millions. Uh. And for me,

1954
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: it's a it's adrenaline rush, It's it's something that I

1955
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:33,679
Speaker 1: love to do. I've been doing it, like I said,

1956
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: since I was nine. And uh, it's just and plus

1957
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Speaker 1: your family member. Yeah, I mean my grandfather, boxer Muhammad Ali.

1958
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 1: You know he was friends with them. Uh that's where

1959
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 1: we got into boxing and my grandfather so for us

1960
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 1: to do it, and it's to make him proud. He

1961
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 1: loves seeing us when he loves seeing us happy. If

1962
01:45:57,439 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: if I can just make him happy, I give all

1963
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 1: this to him because without him there will be no

1964
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 1: You gotta have the talent, though you do, but he

1965
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 1: got that talent out of us. And if you don't

1966
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 1: have somebody pushing you and getting it out of you,

1967
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 1: it just I don't see it work. You gotta have

1968
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:16,599
Speaker 1: a backbone, and you got that backbone, everything will float, right.

1969
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean he told he told me and my brother

1970
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: at a young age when we kind of first started,

1971
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 1: that will become world champions. And I'm a two time

1972
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 1: world champions, so what he said was true. It's really

1973
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 1: I always tell people we got to have the relationships

1974
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 1: that breathe positivity, you know, not negativity, because you know

1975
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 1: there are people out there you can tell them say

1976
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: you go up you ten years old, eleven years old

1977
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 1: and say hey I want to be or excuse makers. Yes,

1978
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:44,600
Speaker 1: I called him. I could complain the club, you know,

1979
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 1: because when you come up with excuses all the time

1980
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 1: and you're not trying to look for solutions, you will

1981
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 1: never make it. It was just like Patrick Mahomes. He

1982
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 1: wrote that little note saying, Hey, I wish I could

1983
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:56,800
Speaker 1: say that I was I went to Digneityland. You know

1984
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying the world when he was with sixteen, Yes, yeah,

1985
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, and so that's why I always tell people that.

1986
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Speaker 1: And I like the thing that really stands out to me,

1987
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 1: you're so positive and I and I'm a positive person,

1988
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 1: but I know crisis has been in your life. When

1989
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 1: you're going the ring, that's a crisis situation. And I

1990
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 1: know people who you know, I don't like. I I know,

1991
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:20,759
Speaker 1: I knew one person who it's paralyzed, probably for fifty

1992
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 1: dollars just because he was in the boxing ring. But

1993
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 1: multiple people died, like I think it was six or

1994
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 1: seven people died in their boxing last year. So it's tough,

1995
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: you know. And this is my first time witness not witnessing,

1996
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 1: but knowing that people died in the ring. You know,

1997
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 1: since I've been boxed, I've never heard of it. And

1998
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 1: I you know, when I think I'm thinking, like what

1999
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:49,599
Speaker 1: went wrong? What happened? They yeah, Like I I really

2000
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 1: don't understand because everybody is doing the same thing. Or

2001
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 1: maybe they're just getting hit more. I don't know. But

2002
01:47:56,960 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 1: boxing is something that you have to, uh really pay

2003
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: attention to your corner. You have to have a good

2004
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 1: team around trust. Yes, you have to. Like my so

2005
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 1: my last fight, I was cut big over my eye.

2006
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 1: I couldn't see blood out of my eye, and I

2007
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 1: got one of them and my basketball, and the guy

2008
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 1: was kind of getting off because I couldn't see. I

2009
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 1: was worried about the cutting, said to worry about him.

2010
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 1: D hurt me some. No, but my corner knew that

2011
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 1: I was at a disadvantage anyway because of my cut

2012
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 1: and I couldn't see, so he stopped the fighting. Not

2013
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 1: it was I mad. I know, I would never be

2014
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 1: mad at that looking now for me, you know, when

2015
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 1: people don't know about that cut, because I, like I said,

2016
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 1: I got I hear the guy's head when I was

2017
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:43,640
Speaker 1: playing basketball, and it's nothing but bone here. So when

2018
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 1: you cut his skin, a very thin layer of skin

2019
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: hidden bone. As soon as that bad ball opens up,

2020
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, it's just blood everywhere. And so like

2021
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 1: I said, it's uh, you have to trust, like you say,

2022
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 1: and I say, you have to trust in your team.

2023
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 1: If you can't trust in your team, I think you

2024
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:02,639
Speaker 1: probably need to find a new team because that that's

2025
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 1: where all the foundation comes in. That because they're on

2026
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 1: the outside looking in, and you can kind of see

2027
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 1: more from the outside than you can you know, when

2028
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 1: you're in there. Let's talk about Flint. You know, a

2029
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:18,799
Speaker 1: few years ago a lot of controversy about the drinking water.

2030
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Speaker 1: Um as an individual who cares because you can't save everybody.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the initial announcement, then the travesty that

2032
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:32,799
Speaker 1: was that was information that was made available to everybody,

2033
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 1: and then what you're attempting to do now, it's just

2034
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 1: the announcement. You know, we had lead in the water.

2035
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Speaker 1: That was a travesty and own for us, for the

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Speaker 1: governor of Michigan to change the water from like it

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01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 1: was a Detroit water to Flint River water. And I

2038
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 1: think that was bad because if you look at the

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01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 1: Flint River water, it's it's bad. And I know they've

2040
01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 1: got chemicals and stuff to change it. But when have

2041
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 1: lead pipes, and that's I think anywhere in any city

2042
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,000
Speaker 1: and you put some type of chemical in it, it

2043
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 1: starts to rust and start to you know, get lead

2044
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,679
Speaker 1: in it, and not only lead, but changing the color

2045
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 1: of the water, right, And we had that in ours.

2046
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 1: So we had to change. And he still thought it

2047
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 1: was okay to drink, but it wasn't. So we're going

2048
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,799
Speaker 1: through that and still going through it to to this day,

2049
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:26,759
Speaker 1: to the day So it's been had going on since

2050
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 1: April fourteen, two thousand fourteen. So that's a long time

2051
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: to not have clean drinking water in a city. Uh

2052
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 1: in America? Still, okay, help me. So you're saying the

2053
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 1: situation is though, so they not too long ago. I

2054
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,439
Speaker 1: think I was in camp for my last fight. They

2055
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 1: sold the people to boil the water again. But they

2056
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 1: what they don't understand is boiling water will not make

2057
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: leg go away. Lead don't go away. You can't even

2058
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: really get a filter to filter off the legs still

2059
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 1: going to be there. You need to change the pipes.

2060
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 1: And and this is what I understand. Why wouldn't they

2061
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 1: give volunteers to come in and fix the pipes. I mean,

2062
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: I know it's all around you as volunteers would come

2063
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 1: in and fix these pipes without like if you put

2064
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 1: one word out there. And that's why I don't get

2065
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:22,639
Speaker 1: about the president either to uh both of Well, it

2066
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 1: was when they came and had the the debate in Flint,

2067
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 1: they said they will do this and do that for Flint,

2068
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 1: and nothing still is done. So I think that's where

2069
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 1: and what is the governor saying? I don't even watch politicism.

2070
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of them, honestly am because I don't

2071
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 1: think you can trust them, Like they give you one

2072
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: thing and and they do another, and that's all the time.

2073
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't uh, I don't agree with the way they

2074
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 1: get into office. They feed you this fairy tale and

2075
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:02,640
Speaker 1: once they get in office, it's just flatlines. Well you

2076
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 1: know that. Here's the thing. I understand the frustration, But

2077
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,799
Speaker 1: you are an influencer. Try to be no, no, no,

2078
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: you are an influence. That's why we're talking because I'm

2079
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 1: trying to see how I can get into your head.

2080
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,760
Speaker 1: That's let you remind you of your power. If you

2081
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 1: just posted videos of people still poem ward out of

2082
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 1: these sinks and it's brown and talking about this this

2083
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 1: conversation of why you can't bawl away lead. You know

2084
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 1: that people think you can do that, you know, but

2085
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 1: that information that's where the power of social media comes

2086
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 1: into play. Anthony, and I have to remind you that

2087
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 1: there's no pressure on you, just letting you know that

2088
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't care about President Trump or him not going

2089
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 1: and him not saying. But they can be reminded. They

2090
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 1: can go viral, it can you can you can always

2091
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:51,920
Speaker 1: tell people social media is your individual press conference. And

2092
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 1: so here I am Russia mcdonaldown in Atlanta. George just

2093
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,200
Speaker 1: also live in Houston, Texas. Thinking you guys are good

2094
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 1: and you're telling me, Richard, excuse me, excuse me, still

2095
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: not good. Problems is up there. So so what are

2096
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,880
Speaker 1: you trying to do? Do you have any causes or

2097
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: any foundations set up? And I do have a foundation.

2098
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 1: I have a Derails Trance Foundation. It's my foundation is

2099
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 1: help to find a cure for cancer. That's one of them.

2100
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, with all the people up there with cancer

2101
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 1: and Flint, they still can't drink the water, and then

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Speaker 1: their immune system are is so low that if they

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Speaker 1: drink the water, they'll be sick for sure. So my

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Speaker 1: foundation help find a cure for cancer, helpe boys and

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Speaker 1: girls their education enter and out of city, and help

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Speaker 1: stop bullying. But my foundation is helping that too. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to open the boys and Girls club. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's in the in the heart of where the water

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Speaker 1: crisis happen, that's on the north side of Flint. And

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Speaker 1: the donation pages up, you know people want to donate,

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Speaker 1: but just trying to put some positive there and you know,

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Speaker 1: give the kids something to look forward to, because if

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Speaker 1: if they have nothing, it's nothing to look for, it's

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Speaker 1: nothing to smile about. But I'm trying to give everybody

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Speaker 1: in the community something to smile about. And once I

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Speaker 1: do it, maybe it's like a domino effect. What everybody

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Speaker 1: else does, it does it, and it goes from there.

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Speaker 1: It takes off from there. Do you do you're doing

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Speaker 1: the galas you's in the events in the Flint area

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Speaker 1: or the Michigan area to raise money, or it's just

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Speaker 1: making people aware. You have these donations pages, making people

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Speaker 1: aware of your causes using some of your money. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure to move forward. These are these actions that I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing that. I'm in the process of doing everything.

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Speaker 1: I want to do a golf auting to okay, knocking

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Speaker 1: the mint in golf. That's like I said, I want

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Speaker 1: to do a golf audience to raise money for that

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Speaker 1: uh and for my foundation to like help people with that,

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Speaker 1: with the situation that's going on in I want to

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Speaker 1: do more events. I I give away turkeys when it's

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Speaker 1: UH Thanksgiving. I giveaway gifts on Christmas, you know, on

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Speaker 1: every Hoiday. I try to give people something to smile

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Speaker 1: about because That's that's what it's about. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: about making people happy. If you can't make anyone happy,

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Speaker 1: it's it's like I'm doing nothing and I see everything,

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Speaker 1: so I'm I'm just out here just trying to make it.

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Speaker 1: Here's a beautiful thing about this conversation. You have a family,

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Speaker 1: talk about your family, and you out there taking care

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Speaker 1: of kids you don't even know. Talking about your families

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Speaker 1: you don't even know they are important you as much

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Speaker 1: as your family and how your family inspires you. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about your media family, wife, talk us about how

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Speaker 1: they relate to actually push you to even further correct

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Speaker 1: the wrongs that these young people are our families are facing. Yep.

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Speaker 1: So I have ye, I have a wife, three boys.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna know they they won't, they won't, they want

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Speaker 1: and I told them that. One of them got mad

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Speaker 1: at me. But I just I just think you know

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Speaker 1: that and I understand that. But we risk our life

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Speaker 1: in the ring for little of money. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: only a few that get you know, I get paid.

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Speaker 1: So in that case, you know, it's basketball players making more.

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Speaker 1: They dribble the ball and they're making hundreds of millions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tennis I mean even golf, you know, but uh, I

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Speaker 1: really don't want them doing like I say, the three boards.

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Speaker 1: They can do anything, they can't do football. Football is no, no,

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Speaker 1: no questions. Ye concussion because of the CT. I I

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Speaker 1: try to brush up on my you know, whatever they

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Speaker 1: want to do. No, I I get down and see

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Speaker 1: it's you know, it's safe. But my wife helps me

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Speaker 1: out tremendously. She she's a teacher, she teaches at a college.

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Speaker 1: She's uh, she liked teaching, helping kids to also. So

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Speaker 1: it's just me surrounding yourself around good people. And like

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Speaker 1: I said, he goes the backbone thing. The foundation, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a wonderful thing. And if you can you

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Speaker 1: can have that stern foundation, you can make it well.

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Speaker 1: You know. Um, I know we're wrapping up this interview,

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Speaker 1: but if you I love to go out lunch and

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Speaker 1: talk to you about just some ideas. That's us an

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Speaker 1: influencer and I could help because I'm sadden that the Flint,

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Speaker 1: Michigan situation, it's not even according to you, it's not

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Speaker 1: even close to being It's like, I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 1: close because there's still trying. But I don't I still

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Speaker 1: I don't even see nobody out there now, like even

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Speaker 1: fixing pipes. But you know they're not gonna be out

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Speaker 1: there in the wintertime. So but like I say, it's

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Speaker 1: it's like we're a third world country, Uh, not having

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Speaker 1: drinkable water. You can't you can't do anything with the water.

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Speaker 1: But let it run right. We'll give out your foundation again,

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Speaker 1: give out your social media information, and again thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on my show. Anthony Durrell, two times Super

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Speaker 1: Time Super Middle eight champion. There you go, Flip Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Give out your information. It's a Durrell trans Foundation. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And my website is Athony Durrell dot com. My social

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Speaker 1: media is Athony Durille on every platform. Okay, cool, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna donate a thousand dollars to your founding appreciated. Good,

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