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Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving Nick Wright Episode four twenty three.

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Speaker 1: This episode of What Drip with Nick Wright is presented

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Speaker 1: to you by our great friends at boost Mobile. It

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Speaker 1: is super Bowl week, demands. It is a big California

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Speaker 1: sports couple weeks. Super Bowl up in Santa Clara, NBA

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Speaker 1: All Star Game right in your neck of the woods

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Speaker 1: in LA. A lot going on. Uh And just so

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Speaker 1: everybody knows our schedule for this week, Thursday's show will

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Speaker 1: be the majority of our super Bowl kind of analysis breakdown.

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Speaker 1: Most of our time will be spent there on Thursday

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Speaker 1: Friday show our prop bet extravaganza, which my pal Bill

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Speaker 1: Simmons says to Kevin Wilds, I stole the idea for

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Speaker 1: Mahomes Mountain from his Hall of Fame pyramid, which is

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Speaker 1: outrageous the propbet extravaganza, however, you can say I stole

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Speaker 1: from Bill and cousin Sally, who have been doing that

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Speaker 1: four years. And one quick note like, not only did

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Speaker 1: I not steal Mahomes Mountain from Bill's Hall of Fame pyramid,

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Speaker 1: but Bill, if we're being honest, doth protests too much

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Speaker 1: because your Hall of Fame pyramid, while brilliant and the

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Speaker 1: foundation for so much basketball debate and basketball knowledge not

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Speaker 1: at all related to a hierarchical contemporaneous rankings of quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in a you know, mountain shape, which is also I

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Speaker 1: guess a pyramid shape, but you know what is similar

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Speaker 1: to Mahomes Mountain, the quarterback perramid that you did this year.

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Speaker 1: So I, you know, I don't know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: who's borrowing from who here, but it's fine, we're all friends.

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Speaker 1: And so what was I Oh, yeah, I was saying

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Speaker 1: that because the the prop show that we will do

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Speaker 1: on Friday, so all of that coming up. There will

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Speaker 1: actually be a heavy amount of NBA on today's show,

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Speaker 1: as James Harden right when things are going good for

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Speaker 1: the Clippers hardens like get me out of here. So

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Speaker 1: we will discuss that shortly. And also the single dumbest

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Speaker 1: and legitimately enraging non controversy of the last few weeks

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Speaker 1: has landed out our doorstep, which is where we will

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Speaker 1: start the show. But first straight the voicemail brought to

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Speaker 1: you by our friends at boost Mobile, justin Jefferson. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I want to call it throwing shade

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Speaker 1: at JJ McCarthy, but he certainly was made be a

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Speaker 1: little more honest than he needed to be about where

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Speaker 1: they would have been with Sam Donald, where they are

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Speaker 1: now with JJ McCarthy when he said, quote, I definitely

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Speaker 1: feel like we would have done better. End the quote

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Speaker 1: with Sam Donald. Punks. Donny Phil sees a shadow. This

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Speaker 1: is an American tradition I do not understand. And I

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Speaker 1: was at this fight at MSG Durell Miller gets his

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Speaker 1: two pay knocked off and then goes on to win

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Speaker 1: the fight. So none of that. In today's show, Shagar

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Speaker 1: Stevenson came through for us our What's Right boxing expert

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Speaker 1: Nick Schulman text me go all in on Chakor. I did.

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Speaker 1: I then went to the fight and it was an

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Speaker 1: awesome fight and he just absolutely annihilated annihilated. Pardon me,

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Speaker 1: tia Fimo Lopez. It's a fun fight to watch, but

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Speaker 1: Chakor stays undefeated, moving up a weight class. Reminder, everybody

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Speaker 1: like rate subscribe review. All right, demons, Let's get to

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Speaker 1: the NBA All Star reserves being announced after being selected

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Speaker 1: by the coaches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the All Star reserves were announced and folks

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Speaker 2: are heated. Your guy Lebron is on there, and I

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Speaker 2: think he took some spots from some other players.

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Speaker 3: Defend your guy.

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Speaker 1: There's no defense needed. And this is I This controversy

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Speaker 1: actually makes me mad. And the breathless nature with which

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Speaker 1: about this totally, I guess, ignorant to any precedent or history,

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Speaker 1: I find insulting. And people are upset that Kawhi Leonard

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Speaker 1: is not an All Star. It's understandable to be upset

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Speaker 1: about that. The Clippers, after that miserable start, have been awesome.

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Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard is having one of the best seasons, certainly

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Speaker 1: one of the best seasons of his Clippers career. He's

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Speaker 1: played thirty six games, which again means he's missed a

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Speaker 1: good chunk, but he only played thirty seven all of

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Speaker 1: last year. He is averaging nearly twenty eight points per game.

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Speaker 1: He's leading the NBA in steels, he's doing it efficiently.

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Speaker 1: The team is winning now. He has a really legitimate

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Speaker 1: argument that he should be an All Star, and no

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Speaker 1: body would argue against that. But folks juxtaposing it to

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Speaker 1: is one of the most outrageous, and I will go

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Speaker 1: Hollinger's column un serious and embarrassing. Those are the two

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Speaker 1: words that came to mind when the NBA announced its

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Speaker 1: Western Conference All Star reserves on Sunday evening, revealing that

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Speaker 1: the Lakers Lebron James was on the team while the

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Speaker 1: Clippers Kawhi Leonard wasn't. I've been tracking egregiously bad All

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Speaker 1: can confidently say that if this was the will of

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference coaches, it was the most bizarre and

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Speaker 1: indefensible selection of my adult life. That's from John Hollinger, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how he leads his column, and I know John knows this,

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Speaker 1: so I don't understand it. Lebron did not take anyone's

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Speaker 1: spot because Lebron's spot was guaranteed, because he's Lebron fucking

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Speaker 1: James in year twenty three, arguably the greatest player of

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Speaker 1: all time, inarguably one of the three greatest players of

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Speaker 1: all time. And folks, the only folks ever who have

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Speaker 1: go find me the tiny violins that were playing when

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Speaker 1: Kareem abdul Jabbar in year eighteen, averaging eighteen and six

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Speaker 1: made the All Star Game, Or when Kareem abdul Jabbar

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Speaker 1: in year nineteen, averaging fifteen and six made the All

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Speaker 1: ten and four made the All Star Game. And what

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Speaker 1: you'll find is there was no Oh my god, won't

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Speaker 1: because folks understood, he's the NBA's all time leading scorer,

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Speaker 1: Or find me the columns when Michael Jordan as a

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan made the All Star Team, or his next

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Speaker 1: He was not voted as starter, he was voted a reserve,

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Speaker 1: and then they made him a starter. Anyway, Vince gave

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Speaker 1: And you might say where was the outrage, and the

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Speaker 1: it's the All Star Game. He should probably be there.

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Speaker 1: Or we can go further with it if we'd like

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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen when Kobe Bryant, and I mean, this

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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen when Kobe Bryant played six games before

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Speaker 1: the All Star break and wasn'tn All Star, or the

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Speaker 1: next year when Kobe Bryant played thirty five games all

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Speaker 1: because he was Kobe effing Bryant. So of course he was.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if back in twenty sixteen when

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Speaker 1: is with Denny Avdia or Chet Holmgren because Lebron's in.

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Speaker 1: And that is here is the important thing to understand.

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Speaker 1: That is not a double standard for Lebron. Others complaining

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Speaker 1: is long understood that if you are in contention to

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Speaker 1: time like Kobe was, as long as you're active and healthy,

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Speaker 1: you're an All Star. Forget the fact that all on

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Speaker 1: its merits, there's an argument for Lebron that over the

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Speaker 1: last twenty five games he's back to being twenty five,

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Speaker 1: than Kareem at the end, Michael at the end, or

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Speaker 1: Kobe at the end, when they all got multiple years,

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Speaker 1: multiple years of lifetime achievement, all star appearances. Remove all

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Speaker 1: of that, and it's just it is so transparently obvious.

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Speaker 1: And I hate to use this term, but click baity.

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Speaker 1: It's what will get this opinion attention is by attack.

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Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard's being snubbed in and of itself is not

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Speaker 1: juicy enough, but if I make it about Lebron being

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Speaker 1: the reason for it, it is.

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Speaker 3: And I just.

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Speaker 1: I I am not surprised that some of the kids

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Speaker 1: I am surprised that folks who I know were aware

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Speaker 2: Anyway, do you think that and go ahead now, now,

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Speaker 2: in today's NBA was so much more talent, do you

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Speaker 2: think that more guys are getting snubbed than maybe back then?

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Speaker 3: It's like Will and Kobe.

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Speaker 1: Well, I I mean, there might be more talent right

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Speaker 1: Kobe was in right, just like and it is noteworthy

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Speaker 1: of me that this wasn't a fan vote scenario. Lebron

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Speaker 1: because the coaches had enough common sense to recognize he's

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Speaker 1: Lebron James. And this is again part and parcel to

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Speaker 1: Lebron in a way being a victim of his own

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Speaker 1: longevity because oddly, demons, I think if instead of averaging

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Speaker 1: to put up what had Kareem's final year stat line,

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Speaker 1: He's averaging ten and five on forty eight percent, you

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Speaker 1: think and was made an All Star? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: people wouldn't be might then right, they might then recognize

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Speaker 1: what it what it is? Right that it that it was.

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Speaker 2: Simply a he's on his way out. We got to

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Speaker 2: get the guy in the All Star Games just wins

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Speaker 2: a game.

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Speaker 1: Right that as long as he is still an active

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Speaker 1: playing every game you know or you know, a full

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Speaker 1: an All Star. But because his statistical profile this year

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Speaker 1: pretend like this was done totally on its merits, like

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Speaker 1: there was no as if there was not some type

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Speaker 1: you know, the guys played sixty that he has literally

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Speaker 1: All right, Demonse, let's talk James Harden and the news.

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Speaker 1: I think no one saw coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the trade deadline has been all about Giannis.

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Speaker 2: Where's Giannis going on? What are they're gonna do with Giannis?

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Speaker 2: Until James Harden came out yesterday it requested a trade

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Speaker 2: from the Clippers. Just strange because they're kind of hot

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Speaker 2: right now. I think they've won seven of their last ten.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: And more than that, I mean, Louiah, if you go deep,

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Speaker 1: I think they've won like eighteen of twenty two. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I wanna pull up exactly what it is because the

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Speaker 1: They started off six and twenty one, and going into

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Speaker 1: One of those games was in Phoenix, where he went

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Speaker 1: to an Arizona Arizona State college basketball game. He's in

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Speaker 1: It is, and the reporting demands is that the Cavs

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Speaker 1: after this is an outrageous thing he's doing right now.

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Speaker 1: No one saw this coming. The Clippers are actually winning.

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Speaker 1: You personally, James Harden, have the blood on your hands

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Speaker 1: for another horrible playoff collapse for your team last year

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Speaker 1: against Denver, Game five, I've just the old school Harden

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Speaker 1: three for nine. And then Game seven, just a vintage

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Speaker 1: and people are stunned when I bring these numbers up.

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Speaker 1: That two for eight performance from Harden was the twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: It was the thirty fifth time. Demonse, it was the

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Speaker 1: record of playoff disappearances and now also an insane track

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Speaker 2: So there there are some theories out there. You know,

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Speaker 2: They were paying them off the books and stuff. Do

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Speaker 2: you think that maybe there's a chance or possibility that,

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Speaker 3: Quay, no.

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Speaker 1: I think he's pissed they wouldn't give him a contract.

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Speaker 1: I think he wants he's angry. He's still angry about

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Speaker 1: just to be clear, the Rockets and I used to

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Speaker 1: be one of James Harden's only defenders, but at some

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Speaker 1: point it becomes indefensible. The Rockets gave him everything he wanted.

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Speaker 1: They went and got Dwight. Didn't work. They went and

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Speaker 1: It didn't work. They then trade Chris Paul for Russell

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Speaker 1: force their hand. They trade him to Brooklyn. He's then

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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, it looks like they can win a championship.

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Speaker 1: They get a little unlucky with Harden. Harden's hamstring again,

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Speaker 1: stay in shape, buddy, Kyrie's ankle, Durant's tow on the line,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. Then the next year, Kyrie

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Speaker 1: He then goes to Philly again, has a historic playoff

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Speaker 1: no show. I'm gonna pull up the that Philly series. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here are James Harden's last three playoff games with the Sixers.

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Speaker 1: He's four for eight, He's four for sixteen. And then

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Speaker 1: another James Harden special game seven against the Sixers Round two,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry against the Celtics. Round two, just a vintage

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Speaker 1: Harden three for eleven, nine pointer minus thirty in the

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Speaker 1: front of a big group of kids, they don't know

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Speaker 1: what ell he's talking about is like Daryl Morius, a liar.

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Speaker 1: I'll never play for him again.

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Speaker 3: I was just like, this is the this is the platform,

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Speaker 3: it's for that.

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Speaker 1: And then the Clippers bail him out. And in the

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Speaker 1: sweet vintage Harden two for twelve and then in Game

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Speaker 1: seven a lethargic five for sixteen, and they give him

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Speaker 1: six months ago. They they didn't run, and maybe it

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Speaker 1: looks like it was the right thing. Chris Paul out

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Speaker 1: of town. No doubt in large, Parker is Harden doesn't

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Speaker 1: They start winning, Kawi is playing great, and this guy

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Speaker 1: then stop showing up for work and demands a trade.

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Speaker 1: It's just outrageous. He just leaves every place in such shambles,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and it's just nap again his fin demands.

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Speaker 1: Here are James Harden's final moments with each franchise. Okay

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Speaker 1: okac as a reserve NBA Finals Game three, he's six

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Speaker 1: Then an amazing run with the Rockets, and I you know,

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Speaker 1: Chris's injury. It doesn't work. They get Russell Westbrook. They're

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Speaker 1: in the bubble. They're playing the Lakers. Game four, two

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Speaker 1: for eleven, Cyanora. All right, get me to Brooklyn, Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: This wasn't or this was his final playoff series with Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: All right, Clippers, I'm here now. Game seven, two for eight,

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Speaker 1: and now he's Cleveland. You're gonna sign up for this.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just scareable.

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Speaker 1: It's just unfathomable. And the goal, I I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: just I will say this, We'll never have anybody else

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just remarkable. Don't do it, Cleveland, don't

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Speaker 1: Deman's a let's talk NFL head coach hirings for a moment.

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Speaker 2: So with Clint Kubiak headed to the Raiders, that is

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Speaker 2: now ten head coaching vacancies that were filled and none

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Speaker 2: of those are by black coaches. Do you think there's

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Speaker 2: something going on there?

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Speaker 1: Well? I mean, so, here's the deal. The NFL created

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Speaker 1: the Rooney Rule in two thousand and two because there

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Speaker 1: were only three black head coaches. It's twenty twenty six.

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00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: There are three black head coaches now. Obviously that has

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Speaker 1: ebbed and flowed over the years. The Rooney Rule, while

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00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: well intentioned, I don't think has a been as effective

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Speaker 1: as they would like. I think there's evidence of that.

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Speaker 1: And b I think it ends up being insulting in

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Speaker 1: some ways. When a team knows who they are going

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Speaker 1: to hire, they either have an air apparent coach in

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Speaker 1: waiting or it's like John Harbaugh to the Giants and

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Speaker 1: then they you know, do box checking interviews with minority candidates.

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Speaker 1: So this is something that I don't like to do,

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Speaker 1: which is grous about an issue without having a clear

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Speaker 1: cut solution to it. And I don't have a clear

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Speaker 1: cut solution to this. What I do have is what

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Speaker 1: I believe is well reasoned explanation as to why this

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00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: is happening. And the first one is very very simple,

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00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: not complicated, and undeniable and doesn't have to make anybody

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Speaker 1: feel bad or uncomfortable, just reality. First one is old

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00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: fashioned nepotism, which is coaches are related to coaches. And

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00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: while this podcast, you know is not necessarily representative of

484
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: this fact, most families in America are not mixed race families.

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00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: And so if you are hiring nephew's brothers in laws,

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Speaker 1: typically that means you're hiring people of the same race

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00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: as you and the people when an industry used to

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Speaker 1: be exclusively white, and now we're down to hiring their nephews, sons, brothers, grandsons.

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Speaker 1: In some cases those are going to be disproportionately white

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Speaker 1: as well. I mean, and when I say grandsons, Demonsey,

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Speaker 1: this will probably make you laugh. The Broncos offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: that just got fired, the one Joe Lombardi who's said,

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Speaker 1: you know, Sean Payton was in one of his moods. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi is the grandson of Vince Lombardi, the guy

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Speaker 1: who the trophy is named after. Like, and so the

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Speaker 1: I mean there is Kyle Shanahan is obviously Mike Shanahan's kid. Yeah,

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00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: Clint and Clay Kubiak are Gary Kubiak's kid. Brian Schottennheimer

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Speaker 1: is the late Marty Schottennheimer's kid. There's a Shoula out

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Speaker 1: there coaching, and I don't know what his relations I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's Don's grandson or nephew or whatever. Like,

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00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: you're right, Belichick's kids are in coaching. Like, so this

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Speaker 1: is that is just how it kind of is going

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Speaker 1: to be, which is one of the reasons that getting

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00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: black coaches involved at high levels and blackfront office people

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00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: is important because then in some ways, eventually the the

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Speaker 1: disparity takes care of itself because not fully, but those

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00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: those black coaches and blackbarnudience, well they're right exactly right,

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00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: will you know, eventually have people in their family that

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Speaker 1: are qualified or whatever and they come up through the

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Speaker 1: coaching world. So that's the first thing, and that is

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Speaker 1: I'm not I mean, it'd be pretty outrageous. It is.

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Speaker 1: I host this podcast with my son, who, by the way,

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00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: I think Demonte does a great job, but he learned

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Speaker 1: on the job. Demonte was not a broadcast Major Demonse's

515
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: qualifications for this initially were I wanted to do it

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00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: with him, and we you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 1: and so I'm not gonna act like that's an outrageous

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Speaker 1: way for people to get jury level jobs. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it is. I think that's the way the world works.

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Speaker 1: And people can say, no, Nick, it shouldn't be that way,

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Speaker 1: but fine, whatever it's I'm not gonna throw stones on

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00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: that because the this is whatever version of a family business.

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Speaker 1: My family, I guess has two family businesses. My wife's

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00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: store where our daughter worked and our younger daughter wants

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00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: to work this podcast where Demands works and where Diora

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Speaker 1: filled in our older daughter filled in for a summer.

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Speaker 1: Like so, I think that is. And you can say

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Speaker 1: pro football teams are not family businesses except at the

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Speaker 1: ownership level. Yes, that's it. At the ownership level, they are,

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Speaker 1: But coaching staff certainly can be where it's like, no,

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Speaker 1: I want to be I'm working seventy hours a week.

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Speaker 1: I want to be around my kid when they're an adult,

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Speaker 1: because I wasn't when they were you know, little, because

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00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: I was grinding so quality control coach, assistant receivers, coach,

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Speaker 1: like I'm going to if my kids into it. I'm

536
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Speaker 1: gonna put them there and then see how high they climb.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna happen, and I don't think anybody should feel

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Speaker 1: badly about that. But it is also why this is

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00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: where the reason I bring that up is, this is

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Speaker 1: the impact of there being so few blackhead coaches thirty

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Speaker 1: years ago is being felt now when so many of

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Speaker 1: the coaches currently coaching are kids of coaches from thirty

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Speaker 1: years ago. And so that's one piece of it. The

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00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: other piece of it that is more uncomfortable. And I

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Speaker 1: want to be very clear with what I'm saying here

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Speaker 1: because a thought process demands can be based in racism

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Speaker 1: without the person having those thoughts being what we would

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Speaker 1: call racist. So I want to I so let me

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00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: explain what I'm saying here, because I do I want

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Speaker 1: to give grace, but I also don't want to ignore

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Speaker 1: what I think is a pretty evident reality. I think

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Speaker 1: there are plenty of decision makers across it in any industry,

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Speaker 1: but I should just say plenty of people who are

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Speaker 1: not what I would call in any way, shape or

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Speaker 1: form traditionally racist. I don't think that they are, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't want my kid marrying someone of a different race,

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Speaker 1: or I'm afraid of these people, or I think these

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00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: people are worse than me. I that they they don't

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Speaker 1: do any they don't commit racist acts. They would pass

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00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: a polygraph on that I don't hold racist beliefs, while

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00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: that for a lot of people is true, while simultaneously

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00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: subconsciously do a sign traits to people based on their race,

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Speaker 1: some positive, some negative. So like the they a lot

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Speaker 1: of those people might see. You know, I will use

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Speaker 1: the most banal example possible. But if they were, if

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Speaker 1: they needed, if they were walking past a group of

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Speaker 1: high school kids and it's like, hey, pick five to

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Speaker 1: you've never seen. They're in class, they're in math class.

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Speaker 1: Pick five to form a basketball team and you get

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Speaker 1: a million bucks if they win the game, they might.

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Speaker 1: They might skew towards black kids and it and might

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Speaker 1: see and they might think that, you know, the that

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Speaker 1: if they were asked the same question, pick five to

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Speaker 1: do a math olympiad, might skew towards Asian kids.

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Speaker 3: They might.

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Speaker 1: They might just naturally in their head have preconceived notions

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Speaker 1: about what people are going based on race, without being

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Speaker 1: intentionally racist, ever or malignant or malicious. Okay, where I

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Speaker 1: think that hurts black coaches in the current NFL, and

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Speaker 1: I think you see it in the data of offensive

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Speaker 1: versus defensive coordinators is I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: subconsciously look at black football coaches as excellent motivators, disciplinarians

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Speaker 1: or raw ra guys, which feels more defense, and look

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Speaker 1: at white coordinators as more quarterback whisperer sad you know

585
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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like we're all we're gonna scheme you

586
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Speaker 1: to death in all these things. And so their own

587
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: subconscious stereotypes get those coaches on certain tracks. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I kind of think you see some again,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to be I really don't like when if

590
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Speaker 1: we talk about race, if people just turn their ears off.

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Speaker 1: So I try to be very very gentle with my

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Speaker 1: language on this stuff and try to pull other examples.

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Speaker 1: I think you probably see something similar in a different

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Speaker 1: direction in high school sports in what position they steer

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Speaker 1: forget or make it about white people white athletes too,

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Speaker 1: that for like this the the sick white athlete. It

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Speaker 1: seems like if it's between you know, are you gonna

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Speaker 1: be a tight end or a wide receiver, they're like

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Speaker 1: maybe receiver, And if it's going to be between a

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Speaker 1: slot receiver or corner. I mean, I'm sorry for what

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Speaker 1: I was saying, sick white athlete, you know it tight

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00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: end or slot receiver, not so much corner or like

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Speaker 1: there's And I do think those things happen for whatever

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Speaker 1: reason it is. People get steered to certain things. And

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Speaker 1: the real issue with that, or the tangible issue with

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Speaker 1: that in the current NFL coaching cycles is demon say,

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Speaker 1: what type of coach does everybody want? The quarterback whisper,

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Speaker 1: the sick play caller, the play designer guy. And I

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Speaker 1: just think there are more young white coaches is being

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Speaker 1: put on that path in young black coaches. And so

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Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned Dimiko. Dimiko is a brilliant designer

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Speaker 1: of defensive football objectively. So now he was always going

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Speaker 1: to be a defensive coach because he was a linebacker,

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Speaker 1: he was a defensive player. But I don't think people

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Speaker 1: use the term brilliant to describe Dimiko Ryans as often

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Speaker 1: as they would as they.

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Speaker 3: Do McVeigh or Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: Right, exactly right. And so these are like the little

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Speaker 1: subtle things that I think have an impact on who.

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Speaker 1: It's why the kid in and I hate to put

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Speaker 1: this on him. But the kid in the quarterbacks, I

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Speaker 1: don't even think he's the quarterback coach. I think he's

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Speaker 1: passing game coordinator under McVeigh. Black kid Nathan skiel House. No,

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Speaker 1: you're Matt Lafleur or Mike lafloor Is who you were

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00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: thinking is he's getting the Cardinals shop. But no, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's like, he's barely older than you man, and

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Speaker 1: he is the passing game coordinator under McVeigh. But he

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Speaker 1: happens to be black, and it's one of the he's

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Speaker 1: one of the only like black coaches that is considered

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Speaker 1: like the quarterback coach. Yeah, I mean Mike McDaniel was too.

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Speaker 1: But also, I don't think many people knew Mike McDaniel's black,

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Speaker 1: like the and so the I mean, I obviously people close.

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Speaker 3: To him knew it, but you didn't know, Mimi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Think I think he has the same uh racial makeup

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Speaker 1: as your babysits.

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Speaker 3: That's insane. Yeah, no, I can. I could definitely see it.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't now once you say, right, no, the

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Speaker 1: and so and so, I just I don't think I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to act like there aren't certain decision makers

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Speaker 1: that are Obviously in every industry there are certain decision

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Speaker 1: makers that are just simply flatly racists that are like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not having in charge of my company anyone of

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Speaker 1: X race like that definitely exists, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: that is the major or even significant reason behind what's

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Speaker 1: happening right now in the NFL. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: more of the two things I laid out there. And again,

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Speaker 1: I hate to do this where it's like, hey, so

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Speaker 1: that because once, let me say one other thing, Once

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Speaker 1: upon a time, the rationale for it was, well, the

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Speaker 1: position most likely to go into offensive coaches, even if

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Speaker 1: they were never pros quarterback. It's high school quarterback that

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00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: stops there, college quarter that stops there. And quarterbacks were

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Speaker 1: so overwhelmingly white that was an explanation. But that's not

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Speaker 1: the case anymore. Now at the highest level, about half

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are black, and so we maybe again at

657
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Speaker 1: takes time to catch up. But that's my uh, that's

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Speaker 1: my general read on this situation that I hope nobody

659
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: freaked out. Over all. Right, let's talk about the NFL

660
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Speaker 1: at this point. It's probably not good for my career,

661
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Speaker 1: but I might have to file an intellectual property lawsuit

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Speaker 1: against the league because they're taking one of my greatest

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Speaker 1: ideas ever go ahead.

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Speaker 2: So the NFL is officially going to Paris next year.

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00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: So that makes nine international games in twenty twenty six. Uh,

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00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: you've been pitching the idea of international week in the NFL,

667
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: and it kind of seems like they're about to do that.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Paris is not the one that

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Speaker 1: jumped out at me. The NFL made a big deal

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Speaker 1: about Paris, but the one that jumped out at me

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Speaker 1: was Australia. They're gonna play a game in Melbourne. Guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if people realize how long that flight is.

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00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like twenty two hours.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Rams are gonna play in it. So let

675
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Speaker 1: me just see Los Angeles to Melbourne. It's a sixteen

676
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Speaker 1: hour flight. And so now we're gonna have nine international games.

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Speaker 1: So again, my pitch from documented on TV eight years

678
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Speaker 1: ago is and it's such an awesome idea and I

679
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: don't understand why the league would not do this. You

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Speaker 1: pick a week in the NFL season, so this is

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Speaker 1: what your first thing. What you do is you add

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Speaker 1: a second bye week, which has the benefit of the

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Speaker 1: players would love it, and it makes the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: the Sunday before President's Day, which then gives everyone the

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Speaker 1: Monday after the Super Bowl off work as just an

686
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: added little bonus. So the season is one game longer

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Speaker 1: or one week longer. Pardon me, we still play seventeen games.

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Speaker 1: Every team plays eight home, eight road, and one international game.

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Speaker 1: But here is why. It is international week. Okay, from

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Speaker 1: Monday through Sunday of that week, there is one to

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Speaker 1: three games every single day, and you could stagger them

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Speaker 1: based on where they are in the world and time zones,

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00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: and it would be a and you could sell it

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Speaker 1: off to whatever different networks you wanted. But for that week,

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Speaker 1: every single day there would be a game or two

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Speaker 1: on either in primetime, early evening, mid day from different

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Speaker 1: spots around the globe. Because they're already doing Rio Australia, Spain, England, France, Germany.

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00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: We could drop in a game in Johannesburg. We could

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Speaker 1: drop a game in Tokyo, you could drop a game

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00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: in Beijing. You could play at as they're doing either cricket,

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Speaker 1: soccer or rugby stadiums, and the extra bye week would

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Speaker 1: be in this the way it would work is this.

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Speaker 1: If your game is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, your extra

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Speaker 1: buye is on the front end of international week. If

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Speaker 1: your game is Friday, Saturday, Sunday, your extra buye is

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Speaker 1: on the back end of international week. So the week

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Speaker 1: before International Week, about half the league would have a bye.

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Speaker 1: The week after International Week, half the league would have

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Speaker 1: a bye. We would have a week in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the season where every single day there's pro football on.

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01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 1: It's from all over the globe. And because of that,

712
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 1: because it wouldn't have to just be Sunday, you could

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Speaker 1: stagger times easily based on time zones, and it would

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Speaker 1: remove the competitive disadvantage of oh wait, I'm losing a

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Speaker 1: home game to go overseas. Oh man, you know I

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Speaker 1: have to fly to Australia this year, and the teams

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Speaker 1: I'm competing with in my division don't have the furthest

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Speaker 1: day have to fly is Florida. And it is a

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Speaker 1: It grows the game, it even it makes it competitively fair.

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Speaker 1: It has such an awesome people would be so stoked

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Speaker 1: if just we knew this. One week, every single day

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Speaker 1: at like four o'clock or seven o'clock or whatever, there

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Speaker 1: was a football game on every single game would be

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Speaker 1: a standalone game. It wouldn't, and the NFL's moving towards

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Speaker 1: it now. It should be noted I did this when

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01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: I filled in for Colin, and I said eight years ago,

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01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: that's wrong. I first pitched this in twenty ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. I then, the first week of

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Speaker 1: First Things, first pitched it to Goodell in person when

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Speaker 1: he was in studio, and I did, to be fair,

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Speaker 1: say take this idea, it's you take it. I don't

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Speaker 1: need I don't, I don't need credit. I would like

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Speaker 1: to revise that I don't need. I don't need. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make any money off this. I would, however,

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Speaker 1: like if somebody in the league office was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know who came up with this idea. So July

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Speaker 1: of twenty sixteen is when I did it on the Herd,

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Speaker 1: and September of twenty seventeen is when uh I talked

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Speaker 1: to Goodell about it. So it just seems like we're I.

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Speaker 3: Thought that was way more recent that you told to

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Speaker 3: Goodell about that. That was.

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Speaker 1: Since then twenty seventeen. Yeah, all right, let's talk a

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Speaker 1: Let's talk Patriots, a little Seahawks and a little gambling

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Speaker 1: before we go.

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Speaker 2: So some storylines out of New England. Is Drake May's

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01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: shoulder and their lack of Super Bowl experience cut through

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01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: all the smoke? What do you think the storyline should

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Speaker 2: be for New England.

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Speaker 3: Going into the well?

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Speaker 1: Listen, I think Drake May's shoulder is something and the

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Speaker 1: fact that he at media day was like, no, I

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Speaker 1: feel like I turned a corner, you know, on the

766
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: flight over means he's acknowledging it was something. The sneaky

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Speaker 1: storyline that predates any shoulder issues for Drake is this,

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Speaker 1: Drake the first two months of the year was by

769
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: a mile, the best deep ball thrower in the league.

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Speaker 1: But since Halloween he has been and the Patriots have

771
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: been dead average, sixteenth or seventeenth in deep in deep

772
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: passing four touchdowns, two picks only like a forty three

773
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Speaker 1: percent completion percentage, but on deep passes that's not terror

774
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: like a ninety two rating, which is again average, and

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01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: that is where Seattle is supposed to be susceptible. But

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Speaker 1: can you know, can Drake hit those because he was

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01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: struggling with them before the shoulder got hurt. And the

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Speaker 1: other storyline and the reason that even though I think

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Speaker 1: Seattle is the better team, I have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of anxiety about laying four and a half with Seattle

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01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: is Vrabel is just an unbelievable coach and his game

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01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: management is superb. And I think Mike McDonald's been really

783
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Speaker 1: good on that front two, but Rabel's as good as

784
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: anyone in the league when it comes to game management.

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01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Seattle.

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Speaker 2: The stories that out of Seattle obviously their OC is gone,

787
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 2: and other reports that they might that the team might

788
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: be sold. But do you think that's a lot of

789
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: distractions for Seattle going into the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So the team being sold thing is a non story.

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: Paul Allen, the owner of the Seahawks. Former owner, died

792
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: eight years ago. I think it was eight years ago.

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01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to get that wrong. I should probably

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Speaker 1: I thought it was twenty eighteen, but I'm gonna check

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Speaker 1: to make sure. Paul, Yeah, it was twenty eighteen. And

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Speaker 1: in his will he said they gotta sell the team

797
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: because he wants the money to go to a bunch

798
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: of philanthropic causes. But there's no he had so many things,

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Speaker 1: assets to sell and things They already did sell one

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Speaker 1: of the teams that he owned. It's gonna take a

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Speaker 1: lot of time. And they sold the Blazers, which he owned,

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01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: and so the team has been kind of for sale

803
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: for years. The rest of the league would love it

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01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: to get sold because it it raises the value of

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Speaker 1: all the other franchises whenever something sold, But I don't

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Speaker 1: think that is a major issue. I I think having

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Speaker 1: your one of your coordinators take another job can theoretically

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01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: be problematic, but I think the fact that this got

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Speaker 1: wrapped up so early in the week, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it'll be a problem. And this, you know, we have

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Speaker 1: seen this happen to teams before. Eagles fans to this

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01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: day still think Jonathan Gannon was distracted for the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl prep that they lost to the Chiefs by taking

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals job. I don't really buy into that too much.

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Speaker 3: Go I would O see is I'm like, I get

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Speaker 3: its hand.

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Speaker 2: Why would you do this? Like you're going to the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl? Like I just it's the money, like the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl at the top of the top, like even

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Speaker 2: if you could get a head coaching job later, like

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Speaker 2: maybe experience that.

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Speaker 1: I think you're a little confused. He's gonna be their

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for the Super Bowl. He doesn't Okay, he

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Speaker 1: does know. He does the interview and it is going

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Speaker 1: to be named head coach, but he's with the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: until the Super Bowl runs over.

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Speaker 3: So in the NFL, it's not like but right, yeah, that.

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Speaker 1: No, that's what they're asking about and that. But I

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Speaker 1: think it'll be I think it'll be Okay, it's not nothing,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's a huge issue. But it's

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Speaker 1: not like college football where they just like, all right,

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Speaker 1: it's not Lane Kiffin like I'm out. He is going

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Speaker 1: to be the Seahawks offensive coordinator through the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and then two days after the Super Bowl will be

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Speaker 1: announced the Raiders head coach. All right, I do have

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Speaker 1: one before interesting gambling note on this, so let's go

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Speaker 1: on to the next topic for a moment.

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Speaker 3: So the line is settled at Seattle minus four and

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Speaker 3: a half.

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Speaker 2: How do you think that the sharps in Vegas see

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Speaker 2: this game playing out?

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Speaker 1: So I I know where the sharps are, which is interesting.

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01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: The Sharps like Seattle money line and New England plus

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Speaker 1: the points. Okay, so they think Seattle wins, but it's close.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting about that. In the last fifteen years, Demonse,

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Speaker 1: In the last fifteen years, there has only been one

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl where the point spread mattered. And by what

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Speaker 1: I mean is fourteen of the last fifteen Super Bowls,

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Speaker 1: whoever won covered, meaning either the underdog one outright so

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Speaker 1: obviously they cover, or the favorite one and covered the

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Speaker 1: old In the last fifteen years, the only favorite to

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Speaker 1: win and not cover was Rams over Bengals. The Rams

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Speaker 1: were four and a half point favorites and one by

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Speaker 1: three at the every other Super Bowl in that stretch,

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Speaker 1: the when a favorite is one they have covered or

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Speaker 1: underdogs have won outright, So the Sharps think right now

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Speaker 1: that that is not the likely outcome. We will do again,

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Speaker 1: dive into all of this and Thursday show and then

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Speaker 1: do all the fun props on Friday show. Let's get

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Speaker 1: some listener questions.

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Speaker 2: Uh Curtis asked, Nick, what is your amount rushmore sports

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Speaker 2: athletes that would like to that you would like to

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Speaker 2: sit down and play a game of poker with?

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Speaker 1: So one guy on the list. I've done that, but

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Speaker 1: four athletes I would most like to sit down and

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Speaker 1: play cards with. You know, I think I've got to

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Speaker 1: include on that list Michael Jordan just because he's such

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Speaker 1: a sick robbler. One of my one of my buddies,

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Speaker 1: does play cards with him, and I think I could

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Speaker 1: make up you know what, I just think I like

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Speaker 1: My answer is just Jordan, heads up. That's my answer,

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Speaker 1: all right? Go to trooper.

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Speaker 2: Trooper asked Nick, can we get your updated opinion on

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Speaker 2: Jamal Murray? You had knocked him in the past for

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Speaker 2: not showing up in the season ready to play. Now

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Speaker 2: that he did, what's the ceiling?

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Speaker 1: Oh listen, I credit Jamal and credit to the Nuggets

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Speaker 1: for surviving Yokich's injury and Jamal coming into the season

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Speaker 1: ready to play. I also, Daniel's gonna get so annoyed

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Speaker 1: with me because Jamal just got named an All Star?

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Speaker 1: Is there a ton bit like, let's just say Joker

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Speaker 1: ends up finishing his career with just the one title,

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Speaker 1: and I'm saying, I think that's gonna happen. He's been

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Speaker 1: He's so good. But let's just say, is there a

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Speaker 1: little bit of like the biggest Joker fans that are

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Speaker 1: kind of bummed Jamal Murray got named an All Star

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Speaker 1: because what they were gonna be able to say was.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they what you want him to do?

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Speaker 1: He never played with an All Star. He's the only guy.

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Speaker 1: He never none of his teammates ever made an All

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Speaker 1: Star game while he was there, Like, what do you

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Speaker 1: want to do? And now it's like, oh, why didn't

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Speaker 1: you win more you had Jamal Murray, guy's an All Star? No,

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Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, Jamal has been excellent and it's

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Speaker 1: a very deserving spot for him. He's always been all

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Speaker 1: star caliber, he just hasn't played at an all star

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Speaker 1: level early in seasons. And this year he did go

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Speaker 1: to Anthony real quick.

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Speaker 2: And then we'll go Anthony as why are people treating

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Speaker 2: this year as a free role for the Patriots? In

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Speaker 2: May Burrow and the Bengals were in the same spot

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Speaker 2: five years ago and haven't been back since.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I and hell Dan Marino in the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: forty years ago and never they were there. In year two,

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Speaker 1: Dan Marino one MVP, they were awesome, never got back.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Anthony. I do think the Patriots

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Speaker 1: are going to be around for the long haul and

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Speaker 1: are gonna be a year over year contender, But that

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Speaker 1: doesn't guarantee you anything. And so yes, every opportunity you

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Speaker 1: have to win a Super Bowl could be your last

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Speaker 1: opportunity to win a Super Bowl. And so I, Anthony,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you your reasoning there one hundred percent. All right, reminder,

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Speaker 1: everybody like great subscribe reviews. Still two more great days

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Speaker 1: of shows for you on this channel on YouTube, Spotify, iTunes.

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Speaker 1: I normally say check me out all the Herd in

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Speaker 1: an hour, but I got bumped for Tom Brady so

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Speaker 1: check out Tom Brady on the Herd in an hour.

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Speaker 1: and I will see you guys on Thursday,