WEBVTT - #Throwback Episode - w/ Wyclef | (Ep.90) 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.960 Hey, Hank sag Gree, Hope you're sovia, this is your 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:03.400 boy in what up? 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.080 Dj e F and this streak Chance motherfucking Paul. 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.040 And right now we've got hands down, one of the 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.400 best producers, one of the most diverse artists, one of 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.639 the persons who's been part of the most influential groups 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.880 in the world, that changed the world, that helped personally, 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.480 helped change me in my outlooking life. They came from 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.000 the depths of the hell bottom and they rose to 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.920 the top. He continued to make hits for people like 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:38.600 Carlos Santana, Beyonce, Destiny Child and you know whatever else 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:39.199 you want to say. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:40.160 In pop started. 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:41.879 They had to come to see him. They had to 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:43.760 come to see him if they wanted to go to 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:52.559 that next level. And right now we got John wat 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.680 Clip Jean. So you know, this is how I'm gonna 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.280 do it, because I'm a real fan. I want to 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:57.480 take it from the booger basement. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.880 Is that what it's called. Yes, it's called a bug of. 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:04.760 The book Jersey, right, yeah, studio, Yeah, the studio is 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.800 called a booker. But first, you know, I want to 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.919 bring you salute from the whole the whole entire Haiti. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.760 You know what I mean. You know, we love you, 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.520 we salute you representative. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:21.280 Yeah, so uh he ran for president. 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.160 We wanted to make sure that that was clear. You know, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.120 that was the first thing. So I'd say, man, the 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:34.280 Booker basement. You know, I was after Haiti leaving Brooklyn, 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.840 kim Marlboro Projects, Coney Island. My dad was searching for 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:40.160 a better life. He brought us to. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.279 Jersey and and we lived in East Orange. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:46.720 Yeah. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.639 So so from East Orange, I one O seven South Clinton. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.120 From there we moved to Newark. So I was back 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.880 and forth between Noyork and EASTTNGE. And you know, my 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.000 dad was a minister. So when the church they had that, 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.400 it was that whole myth about circular music and so 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.200 the same thing that the Cats went through. That was 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.840 in the seventies where if you was playing church music, 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.560 you couldn't be playing you couldn't go to be playing 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.040 club music, you know what I'm saying. So basically we 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.720 had to sneak. So when I was playing, you know, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.079 like if I was playing outside of the church, I 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.079 was sneaking to do that because you couldn't do that 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.480 around Yeah, it was blasphemous, so similar like Marvin gay 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:32.320 father so for me, but my passion was battle rapping. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:37.040 So I went to Vellsburg High School. Anybody who's listening 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.840 to this right now, Vellsburg High School, you already know 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.440 my first name is Nell. Yeah, for Nelly. 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:42.720 Nell. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:48.440 I used to eat motherfuckers up for breakfast and lunch dinner. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:50.080 Barely seventeen years old. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.359 I was obsessed with just because coming from Haiti, I 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.560 was like, yo, the only way I'm gonna get attention 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.919 and people to pay attention. It's almost like you gotta 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.280 spit better than them. So I took the vocabulary to 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.959 Shakespeare and just became like a wordsmith, you know what 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.680 I mean. And the Booger Basement, the way it sound, 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:09.839 that's what it is, you know. I meant a Kon. 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.880 A Kon came to the Booger Uh was. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:17.160 Actually Jersey City? Correct? Yeah, the Royal Black Warrior. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.239 Yeah, so so I'm you know, I'm gonna give it 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.919 to you like the death Man. A Kon was a 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:26.120 barber like akond this. Yeah, you know I'm gonna give 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.639 it to you. Yeah, one of the jobs, yeah a 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.720 kon Yeah, yeah, so a Kon one of his jobs man. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.600 He was an incredible barber, but he always used to 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.960 come to the bugger and he come to the book 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.720 and be like, Yo, look Clett, listen to my music. 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.240 I got this music. So in my hood I was 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.800 like Doctor Dre. So I was like that Haitian Doctor Dre. 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:56.640 You're still like doctor the early nineties. Yeah, this was 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.680 like you know when you watched the whole n w 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:03.440 A up him. Yeah, well this is before this, way 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:08.640 before I'm talking about here. So this like the foundation. 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.720 So the Booger was the spot everybody would come through. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.920 Now I'm gonna give you another fact on ACN. So 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:18.240 when we did the score, there's a remix of Fuji. Yeah, 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.920 the Fujili remix. I put a con on it. So 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:26.760 this is like way before anything, like yeah, so this 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.640 is what. So when we did in the remix, I 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.320 was like, yo, I gotta put this kid on it 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.440 because I think, like he's gonna go somewhere, Like he's 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.040 incredible every time I see him. So whenever I used 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.320 to do shows, I would just bring a kN on 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.920 stage if he was there. So I only take you 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:43.800 that far back to show you. So there was two 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.760 sides of Jersey we was representing the refugee side and 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:52.200 then you had the outsiders. The outsiders was Eminem Eminem, 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:57.000 young z I dig Up Pace one, so all of 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.280 that was on the other side. So when we was 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.600 doing the score, I was like, Yo, it would be 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.880 dope if we could unify both clicks on one record. 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.760 So on the score, the song Cowboys was when we 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.640 unified it was refugees and the outsiders and we put 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:14.280 that together. 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:16.080 That was a scenario. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.080 A Kon was on our side, but it was sort 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.640 of like a Kon was doing his thing. It was 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.600 just he always was on the grind. So even though 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.560 when Fuji's was blowing up, he still was like, Yo, 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.400 you need to check out my music. And then years 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:36.720 after it's all good that years years later he blew up. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.960 But it's just to show you erkabat do. A lot 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.840 of people came through that book of basement, you know 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.320 what I mean? A lot of a lot of talent 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.440 came through that basement. And it was crazy because Diamond D. 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.200 I remember Diamond D shout out to domind D Salam 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:57.360 remy Salam, Salam is like na salam is like the 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:03.880 gurule like before the Fuji's before everything, Like, right, yeah, Salam, 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:08.000 did you know that Amy Winehouse documentary when she's talking 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.960 about the Sensey and she she's calling the freestyle in 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:16.000 the studio. He yeah, yeah, so she's calling him. So 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.680 Salam was the like Salam was doing hits man. I 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.800 think he was like fifteen sixteen years old. He was 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.680 like the dude doing like the super cat all of 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.120 that crazy stuff that was like that was like flex 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.839 flex right hand man. So for me, all of those 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.520 that was really the come up. So to think that 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.839 all of that really came from the booger I told people, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.159 I said, what the Fuji's and Steve job got in common? 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.600 You know, Steve jobs invention was in the garage. Our 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:49.200 invention was in the basement. Yeah. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:55.040 So so you being from Hayden coming to you went 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:56.960 to Brooklyn first, because I think you went to Brooklyn 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.479 and then you went to Jersey, right, yeah, we lived 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.880 in Brooklyn. You let in Brooklyn, went over Brooklyn and 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.880 you But but Haiti is Caribbean, correct? 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.440 How was that that first call when they said, Yo, 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.400 Shakiro wants to work with you. Did you think about 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.080 Ian pussy? Did you think about because. 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:17.280 That's the first thing I'm. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:17.760 Thinking about. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:24.320 Before you don't have the clar. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.040 I'm sorry, I forgot awkward. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:32.360 So the funny thing about the Shakira record is that, uh, 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:33.920 that record was done. 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.320 Two years before Shakira. I did it for a movie. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:42.040 Called Havana Knights. So Clive told me that he wanted it. 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.000 And at the time we said, clip you talk about 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.520 talking about the regular nigga. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:49.240 He's got a bigga from. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:49.400 Down the. 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.679 Clid from flat Bush who used to sell. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:07:59.440 You know what. 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.400 So yeah, so that climb. So Clive hit me up like, yo, 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.080 I'm doing the soundtrack and I need a joy from you. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.240 So for me, the whole, the whole idea of what 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.560 I do, because you know, Haiti is just Spinola, so 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.680 it's like basically Haiti and the d R. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.200 Geographically it is really one because we want let's break that. 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:24.720 But for Columbus actually discovered that island, well he didn't 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:25.120 discover it. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:26.920 He came there and the people was already there. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:31.120 It was actually originally called Espanol and that was Dominican Republican. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.320 And hey, I'm sorry, I got smart. 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:33.200 I'm so sorry. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.840 Let me get back to come. I don't want people 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:36.959 to know. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.839 And then the French colonized the side, right, Yeah, is 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.480 that the way when in the Spaniards stayed on the 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.520 Dominican side is out of the division. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:50.600 And somebody a pussy along them every time I secure 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.520 you dancing, continued I'm sorry, my mom, don't don't repeat 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:58.280 these bad words. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:00.640 Yeah. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.920 So, so, basically, he just wanted me to do the 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.800 song for the movie. At the time, we had a 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.360 group called City High. So City High we had to 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:12.800 start as Claude artists. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.280 She got pregnant by the other guy, right, which came. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.880 Later, right, which came later. A lot of mistakes, you 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.480 know what I mean, learn from So so it was 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:35.360 you got no, no, you was breaking on. I didn't 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.680 get him pregnant yet, I didn't get nobody pregnant was bad. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.280 Nobody would be mad at you. We thought it was 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.880 your baby for a long time, be honest to No. No, 0:09:45.600 --> 0:10:08.839 Billy Jean myself with forward continued Yeah. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.160 So, so so we do it for the movie and 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:16.319 the record sits there, and you know, Clive, I was like, Clive, 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.599 just record feel special. I think it's bigger, but he 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.559 was like, no, it's just for the movie. So two 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:25.320 years later I get a call from Donniana and Charlie 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.480 walk and Charlie walks like, Yo, we need a record 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.120 for Shakira because we're trying to get her on the 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:35.120 other side of the fence and is also a big guy. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.760 Let's continuey. She hadn't done it bi lingual record yet 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:38.240 at this point. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.560 Yeah, there was, there was. There had a few records 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.439 on her, but they was trying to cross her the 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.199 way that I had crossed Santana over. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.960 So we got to get to that because into today's 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:52.520 yeah on college wild thoughts. 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.880 But yeah, so so then so I told him, I said, look, 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:58.960 I got a record. I was sitting here for two years. 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.120 So anybody if you listen to the original record, it 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.760 was on the Havana Night soundtrack. It's Claudette singing it 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:09.800 word to Bond, It's the same record. The only thing 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:16.400 I added was Shakira, Shakira, Shakira and Cara veryble. So 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:20.040 I get the call man and and then it's Shakira. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.280 It's real talk. And then so she hits me, Shakira 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.520 called you direct, Yeah, she needs to hear. Yeah, So 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:28.680 Shaky calls me. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:41.320 Right now. 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:47.520 Yeah, So so shaq collar and she's like I was like, Yo, 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.000 you know you heard the record. She was like, I 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.839 love the record, and she was like, I had I 0:11:53.000 --> 0:12:00.240 had a dream about you. Yeah, so exactly. I I 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:01.680 didn't know where it was going either. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:04.520 I was in I was. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:14.520 Nigga, I was so I get the call and Shackie's 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.920 So the dream wasn't what I wanted to dream at 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.280 the time, but it was just the fact that we 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.439 was connected. And then we we met in Miami and 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.559 when we got together, I would say, what made that 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.440 record special was the fusion. She came with that straight 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:35.520 Columbian fusion. And sometimes you could write a record it's 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.600 like a movie. It takes a certain actor to make 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.760 the movie a hit, a certain mattress. So basically I 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.840 remember me and Jerry doing that the record Jerry, Yeah, 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.520 Jerry Wonder my partner. And then she basically I remember 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.719 she was like, Yo, if my hips don't move, the 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:55.480 record ain't a hit. So when she said that, like, 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.640 I was like, Wow, we're gonna have Shakira dancing in 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.160 the studio for eight hours is I started banging on 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:08.559 everything and then that's how really the magic happened. And 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:12.360 from there, you know, she she recorded the record, we 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:16.000 put the cultures together. It's something about when you it's 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.840 an algorithm dog when you put cultures together, and because 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.600 that kind of music is no longer music, it becomes 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.840 just a cultural phenomenon, you know what I mean. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.920 So that was the situation with that, and it was 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:28.680 an incredible and it. 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.120 Felt like y'all kind of did that on the hip 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.960 hop side with Cypress before that with Cubans me Haitians. 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.280 That felt, oh yeah, yeah, a big record for you, 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.000 Yeah yeah, I just feeling that record. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.880 Yeah, big time, big time. But for me, you know, 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.560 the melting pot for me is like as much as 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.200 of Haitian, no one can't tell me I ain't Latin. 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.400 No one can't tell me I ain't African, because you know, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.080 if I if I start to play sousa or Caribbean, 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.240 if you close your eyes and I start to play piano, 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.360 so you be thinking I'm from Cuba. Because for me, 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.520 no one could okie dope me. Like at the end 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.360 of the day, we want people they separate us whatever. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.560 But for me, it's like, I know, I got family 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:03.480 from Cuba, from. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:04.520 Jamaica or whatever, you know what I mean. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.719 The percussions were exactly were connected. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:08.040 By them drums. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:09.440 So that's that's how it what happened. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.439 Man, So let me ask you something. You did Cara call? 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.240 Now that you're just a shaky shaky, shaky I'm sorry, 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:22.600 cool like that. I still got called. But so you're 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:23.240 saying you got the. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.440 Call Santana call prior that that that record came prior. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.600 For some reason, I thought you Carra came first here. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.080 Now you know in Santana. Remember I did Santana and 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:33.160 I did Whitney Houston. 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.480 God you did what? 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:37.280 Yeah? 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:37.560 I did? 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.720 I'm doing that road. My love is your love, and 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:50.960 your love I forget. Yeah, we never. 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:59.920 You gotta rely. So it's super now. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.880 Now, now here's the reason why Colos Santana for artists 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:07.960 like us, right, it's super like special because Carlos doesn't sing. 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:09.080 Oh he does. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:10.240 This is me. I'm sorry, I'm mad. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.720 I come on, that's me. It's me, it's me. 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:20.480 So so called Santana traditionally doesn't actually sing on the records. 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.360 He actually tried to compose. So when Carlos called you, 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.240 what was your very first thought? First off, did you 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.840 think it was Carlos Santana or you knew because you 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:29.400 was that big? 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.920 You know the way that it happened. It happened through 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.440 Clive Davis. So Clive is like, just a. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:38.680 Clip from flat. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.000 You gonna start clapping. You can't be around here. If 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:50.240 I clap your clap, we're. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:55.240 Gonna step love in the building, stephead. So so Clid 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.560 from flat Bush calls it. Yeah, so Clod from flat 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:58.120 bushit me. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.200 And you know, he gave you the big godfather talk, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.760 you know, and the talk is like, yo, why cleft? 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:11.040 I know you study your presence by the way, study jazz. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.800 And I've been thinking, what do you think about a 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.880 fusion with Carlos Santana? 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.320 And I was like, yo, I love Carlos Santana. 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.360 He's on arist at the time. Yeah, okay. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.400 And then you know, and then Clive then he gonna 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.720 hit you with that pressure. He's like, okay, you have 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:30.840 twenty four hours. So basically, so when I do these records, though, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.200 it's like all of my records got schemes in them, man, 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.480 Like you know what I mean, I break down the fundamentals, 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.720 you know, saying hip hop is one of my schemes. 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.600 But growing up in the hood, I used to escape, 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.880 and I used to scape and watch movies one movie 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.480 I used to watch was West Side Story. And west 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.480 Side Story is a deep story, man, It's about like 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.880 gun culture, you know what I mean, gang culture, clash culture. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.840 And and then remember West Side Story, the girl name 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:25.359 was Maria say no, rest story was going on. 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.320 Watch what happened to Product g n B. 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:33.320 Man, that's a good question. 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.080 So the guys that saying on that, oh. 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.040 Yeah they finished, yeah, but they. 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:40.760 Don't finish that. 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.000 We never knew who they was from again they got 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:47.639 that was a big record, No, no, you know what. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.240 So so one thing that you said, which is is 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.879 how the records are put together? Right? So from a 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.040 composer aspect, right, the first thing I'm gonna do is 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.600 I'm gonna say who can and sing this? 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.200 Right? So I was obsessed with David Ruffins. 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:09.679 So Product g m B from from from from Long Island, 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.959 Kid Money Harmed had that vocal where it was like yo, 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.240 he just had because I needed somebody, like you said, 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.440 Santana a singer. He's an instrumental. 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:27.800 Like Willie Cologne in Puerto Rico. Willi Cologne only plays instruments, correct, Yeah, and. 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:35.160 He always a singer. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.600 But so that's what is So I had to put 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:46.040 the whole sky. Yeah, no, that's dope what you said. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.359 So to your point, So as a composer, this this 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:53.520 is where you know reality has to always How I'm 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.320 able to do this over and over again, it's because 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.600 my background is, like I'm a hip hopper, but I'm 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.119 a jazz major, Like I love jazz, So jazz is 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.000 based on the composition. So I gotta set the scheme up. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.720 So there's a few schemes on that record. The other 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.560 scheme is I'm a big fan of Wu Tang clan 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.880 angle and that whole record. Did y'all hear the part 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:20.640 that was that sounded like Wu Tang? 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:21.159 No? 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:27.320 Okay, So I'm gonna grab my guitar. It's a different 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:32.000 type of park. We got niggaso guitars and ship got 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:32.920 with guitar. 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:33.600 You gotta. 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:38.160 Da says your day. 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:49.360 Everybody be quiet, everybody quiet, please walk continue. 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.600 Yeah, So this is what we're going to producing one 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:53.600 on one vibe and we. 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.000 Don't got to play this or night right now, you 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:57.600 ain't got it. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:07.760 The music younger, clear it man, I own it, mano right, 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:11.080 so check it out. So so when I'm composing, right, 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:25.000 So the first part we composed was right, So that 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.520 was the first zone you feel and they all feel 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:31.560 that record. So so then when we said Wu Tang 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:33.879 clan ain't nothing to funk with. So one of the 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:37.560 things I thought that public would identify with with Santana's 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.720 an instrument tillis right, this is where the haitian comes out? 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.760 Did somebody who plays the instruments? I was like, what 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:49.879 if I could take this, this Rizard scheme, so what. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.480 If that. 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:56.399 Ain't with. 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.000 I'm giving them my hip hop hip hop car for 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:06.399 one day. 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:08.639 I know that. 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:15.520 So when we said we said playing by card Little Santana, 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.280 they did in the record. Yeah, yeah, So my whole 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:25.080 vibes be about the mashups. As a hip hop student, 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.040 you know what I mean, I consider myself a hip 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.280 hop guitarist first, so so I think a lot of 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:34.040 the records like I always pay tribute to. So that 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:36.960 fusion came out like that because of you know what 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.439 I mean, like when when? And then so that scale 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.600 sounds like Wu Tang, but it's originally a gypsy scale, 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:45.840 So Santana is the king of that gypsy scale. So 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:47.720 at the end of the day, even though Rizza would 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.040 bring it back in a different form. So for me 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:52.800 that it all boils down to the basic science. You're there. 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:57.440 Yeah, so l L wait but did that science translate 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:58.800 to the to the new calid record? 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.400 So so so so cal we go back to that question, 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:05.400 the record. We can stay in the record. 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:09.960 You're right, yeah, wild thoughts Rihanna, Yeah, did they clear 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:10.680 that record with you? 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:14.119 Yeah, definitely. So so Khalid, who I've known man for 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.560 we're all good for. We all know. Yeah, so we 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:20.080 we you know, I go back with Color. That's like 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.760 brother the brother together. Yeah, that's how far he was. 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:25.640 Yeah. 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:29.920 Yeah. And then like people don't even know like I 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:33.520 used to like clash like dub plates, so I used 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:35.359 to this is there's a part of me like in 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:39.480 Miami in the early days with Kali. Yeah, so dudes 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.760 don't even know, like I could show up with a 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.600 crate and the murder the place. So so for me, 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.480 So I get the call from from my brother Colored 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:51.480 and he's like, yo, just this one seemed like it's 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.000 this this cleft. You don't understand. This is going to 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:57.440 be the biggest one. And boom boom boom boom. So 0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:00.159 we need to get Santana, you know, the clear on 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.960 his part, I know you and Santana did the record. 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:07.280 So I called up Madeline Nelson, my CEO. She got 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:11.800 Santana and Santana's like my godfather. So Santana cleared it. Now, 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.600 this is what I love most about that. I remember 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:18.000