1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: The journey here is the destination. The journey to Berlin 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: was the destination for me learning how to prioritize my 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: own health and well being, how to set boundaries, how 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: to listen to my body, how to invest in my 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: body so that my body could show up for me. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: The journey is the destination, and that is exactly what 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: happened for me over the last three months. 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Emily A Badi here. You are listening to. 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: A very special episode of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast. 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Reconnect with everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 1: and industry CEOs about their highest hies, toughest moments, and 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: everything in between. We all go through hurdles in life, 13 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: and my goal through these discussions is to empower you 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: to better navigate yours and move with intentions so that 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: you can stride towards your own big potential and of 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: course have some fun along the way. When I say 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: it special episode, it's because this has been a long 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: time coming. Berlin Marathon recap Babe. To this day, if 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: someone comes up to me and they tell me that 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: a specific episode is their favorite, it's nine times out 21 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: of ten. The Chicago Marathon recap episode and A that 22 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: makes my heart warm and fuzzy. But b I think 23 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: it's because it was just so unfiltered and on my part, 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: so unexpected what happened that day. For those of you 25 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: that are unfamiliar, I'm going to link that episode in 26 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: the show notes. I highly encourage you to go check 27 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: it out. Not you don't need to be a fan 28 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: of running. You just need to be a fan of 29 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: going after a crazy dream and seeing it through. 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: I digress. 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to be laying here in this bed 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: now in Florence, Italy. I'm about to log off as 33 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: soon as I get this up for y'all, but in 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: the meantime, I wanted to make sure that I sat 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: down with his microphone asap. 36 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: And this is the first time I've. 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: Had some solo time really since crossing that finish line 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: in Berlin. I ran the Berlin Marathon on Sunday, September 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: twenty fourth, in three hours, fifty eight minutes and forty 40 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: three seconds, and I could not be prouder for so 41 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: many reasons that I will get to in this episode. 42 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to break down what it was like for 43 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: me in the training and the build up to this marathon, 44 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: many of you well versed in the fact that I've 45 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: been dealing with planter fasciitis and had a really different 46 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: marathon build up than I've had previously. 47 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: I'm also going to talk about the kind of the. 48 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: Things that preceded the race, my decision to pace a 49 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: friend of mine and what that looked like for us, 50 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: and everything about the day itself, how I felt before, during, after, 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: how I'm feeling now, the ever lovely question when you 52 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: accomplish something of what's next, A lot of really great 53 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: things to get to in this episode, the moral of 54 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: the story. I think the through line here that I 55 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: just want to make sure that I start this off with, 56 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: so you know what's coming is that if you put 57 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: your mind to it, and you really dedicate time to 58 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: your body, if you really invest in your body, if 59 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: you show up for your body, your body's going. 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: To show up for you in return. 61 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: And so I am feeling really just over the moon, 62 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: grateful and excited about this goal that at one point 63 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: felt really really really impossible to be candid. So yeah, 64 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: as always, if you have more questions for me, you 65 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: want to know anything else, I'm all ears you can 66 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: leave me a voice message, ask me a question. The 67 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: link to do that is in the show notes. And 68 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: with that, let's get to it. Let's get to hurdling 69 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: Berlin Marathon. I'm literally lying here on my back with 70 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: the microphone looking up at the ceiling of this hotel room. 71 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: I'm still in Europe, like I. 72 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: Said, and I am still feeling like I am on 73 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: cloud nine. I knew, I've known for a long time 74 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: that I want to run all of the World Marathon Majors. 75 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: For those of you that are out of the loop, 76 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: the World Marathon Majors are six different races around the 77 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: world that comprise, I would argue the biggest marathons that 78 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: there are. This is Chicago, New York, Boston, London, Berlin, 79 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: and Tokyo. I have now run all of those except Tokyo, 80 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: and I'm really hoping to cross that one off at 81 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: the top of next year. But Berlin has been on 82 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: my list for a really long time, and I wanted 83 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: to get it done this year. When I set out 84 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: on this journey, when I set that as a goal 85 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: for myself, I was certainly on the injured list, and 86 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: it was shortly after London in I believe October two 87 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two. So after London, I was dealing 88 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: with planter fasciitis and it was really gnarly. 89 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: In January of this year. 90 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: I took off a considerable amount of time from running 91 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: and really attacked the planter full force. So that meant 92 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: seeing all the experts. I went to a p diatrist 93 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: and did red light laser therapy, which I've talked about 94 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: on the show. I was going to physical therapy twice 95 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: a week. I was going to see an acupuncturist that 96 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: morning side, and I'll link that episode that I recorded 97 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: with my guy Teddy from my acupuncture practice. And I 98 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: was really investing in myself, not just time wise, which 99 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: got all these appointments it felt like they dominated my weeks, 100 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: but also monetarily. 101 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: This was all things. 102 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: These were all services that I was paying for, and 103 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: so to add this line to my budget in a 104 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: way that I had never really done so before, it 105 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: was uh yeah, it was difficult to be candid, but 106 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: I knew and I know how much it means for 107 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: me to be able to move regularly, and especially with 108 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: something like planter fasci itis, it's such a nightmare to 109 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: deal with every day right you wake up. In the 110 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: second you wake up, you're reminded that something is wrong 111 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: with you when you put your foot or your feet 112 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: depending on what you're dealing with on the ground. And 113 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: every single morning I would wake up and I'd be 114 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: limping for the first five minutes and it was drastically uncomfortable. 115 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: And then if I went for a run, you know, 116 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: maybe the first five ten minutes wouldn't feel okay, but 117 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: then as time went on, it would feel quasi normal. 118 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: But I just never felt like myself. I was always 119 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: dealing with some sort of pain. And so I can 120 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: say that after January of twenty twenty three, I experienced 121 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: about a fifty to sixty percent reduction in pain. And 122 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: what that looked like for me was that the symptoms 123 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't persist as long or they would shift completely. So 124 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: whereas I used to wake up in the morning and 125 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: have pain walking around the apartment for the better part 126 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: of say ten minutes, I would maybe walk for five 127 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 1: to six steps, and then my foot felt pretty normal. 128 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: As my days would go on, Typically what I would 129 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: experience is the more that I was on my feet, 130 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: the more uncomfortable I would be, and so as I 131 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: did all of these treatments, I found that not as 132 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: much to be the case. And then as for running, 133 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: I began to slowly be able to run for longer 134 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: without drastic amounts of pain. Now that doesn't that even 135 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: to this day, like at the end of this marathon, 136 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: I was limping a little bit, but it was nothing, 137 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing like it was at the beginning of this 138 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: training cycle. And I actually would say that most people 139 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: are a little limpy after they finished a marathon. Anyway, 140 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: as I continue to go on and tell a little 141 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: bit about my experience, I do want to caution that 142 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: this is my experience in mine only if you are 143 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: dealing with something like plantrofasciatis or another injury, I would 144 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: encourage you to speak one on one with some sort 145 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: of an expert so that they can diagnose what you 146 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: have going on and know that my experience is likely 147 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: going to be different than yours. 148 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: Okay, now that we've got that caveat out of the way, So. 149 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: In February and March of this year, I started to 150 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: be able to integrate a little bit more regular movement 151 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: into the routine. Instead of going every week twice a 152 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: week to pt I downgraded to go once a week 153 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: to PT, I stopped going to the past for the 154 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: laser treatments, and I started going to acupuncture about once 155 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: a month instead of every other week. The training cycle 156 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: for the marathon officially started in I want to say 157 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: around my birthday, so June, the beginning of June, and 158 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: as that ramped up, there were some things that I 159 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: knew were going to be a little bit different. 160 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: First and foremost, me and my PT Luke. 161 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: Luke and I had an understanding that I would probably 162 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: have to do some of my endurance efforts on the bike. 163 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: I love cycling. I picked it up during the pandemic. 164 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: I also have a peloton at home, and so the 165 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: idea was in order to put less load on my 166 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: foot but encourage an increase volume systematically and strategically, I 167 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: would add mileage on the bike instead of doing crazy 168 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: amounts of mileage on the road on foot. And when 169 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: I tell you that that isn't what we had to 170 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: do do at all, I I'm so, I feel so 171 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: truly lucky and so truly blessed in that there was 172 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: I would say the first like two to three long 173 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: runs of the training cycle, when I really started to 174 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: get into it, and we were getting over eight, ten, 175 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: twelve miles. 176 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: For those runs. 177 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: I would run that mileage and then I would come 178 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: home and do like thirty minutes extra on the bike, 179 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: because at that point there were individuals that were also 180 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: training that were looking at a mileage about closer to 181 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen, sixteen miles and I just wasn't there yet 182 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: from a recovery perspective. 183 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: But after the first three to four weeks of training. 184 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: I really was ramping up in my mileage close to 185 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: someone who wasn't dealing with this kind of an injury. 186 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: We made the plan that I would be running four 187 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: days a week, a base run, an interval run, another 188 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: base run, and a long run. The intervals for a 189 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: chunk of my training were never longer than three to 190 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: four minutes, and again we were just systematically me and 191 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: Luke figuring out a program that felt best for me 192 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: and my body. I didn't work with another coach this 193 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: time around, although I'm always so lucky and fortunate to 194 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: have the guidance of my dear friend Nike Running and 195 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: Endorphins coach Rebecca Stow, And it feels like just yesterday, 196 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: like I know, I'm already talking about the training plan. 197 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: And the fun thing about these recaps is I don't 198 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: really edit them like crazy, so you're really getting a 199 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: stream of consciousness here. But I remember clear as day, 200 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: as though it was yesterday, the first time I got 201 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: to run on the treadmill for two minutes on one 202 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: minute off. And I remember going to the Super Bowl 203 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: in February and I went with my good friend Kim 204 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: who was training for the Tokyo Marathon, and I ran 205 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: with her for two minutes on one minute off. And 206 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: to fast forward from February where I was running for 207 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: two minutes at a time to them being able to 208 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: run this marathon shy of four hours in September, it 209 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: truly feels like I'm so so proud of myself, and 210 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: that is large in part because I listen to my body. 211 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think about the other things that 212 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: I want to highlight before I talk to you about 213 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: the prep for this week. Specifically, I would say that 214 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: the biggest thing I want to run home is that 215 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: I had a reasonable expectation that, although I wouldn't be 216 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: pain free gearing up for this marathon, the goal was 217 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: to stay at the same level while increasing load, Right, 218 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: so I wanted to week over week, never increase the 219 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: load more than ten percent. So what that means is, 220 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: if you have one week where you are running twenty 221 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: miles total throughout the entire week, then next week your 222 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: total mileage shouldn't exceed over twenty two miles, adding ten 223 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: percent to additional miles. 224 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: If that next that following. 225 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: Week, the load should be no more than let's say 226 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty five miles, so every week adding 227 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: ten percent, And if you looked at my graph on Strava, 228 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: you literally would see like a perfect, a perfect diagonal aligned. 229 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: Because I was really strict about making sure that I 230 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: wasn't doing too much, and in doing that, I was 231 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: able to accomplish the goal. I was able to maintain 232 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: a you know what felt like expected level of discomfort 233 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: and if ever something like truly truly hurt me, then. 234 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: It was Nope, this isn't happening. We're going to stop 235 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: this now. 236 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: But there were times where I would just experience muscular discomfort. 237 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: There are so many muscles in my foot that were 238 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: cranky throughout this process, and that was something that I 239 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: had to get on board with. If I wanted to 240 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: go after this goal of running the marathon. What were 241 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: the hardest parts of my training? I would say the 242 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: hardest parts of my training for this particular race were 243 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: there was a couple of things. One, I really missed 244 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: my friends. Over the last few years, I really got 245 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: immersed in the running community in New York and because 246 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: of just how I felt training this time around. This 247 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: is certainly a personal thing, but it made me feel 248 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: better to do this on my own, which was a 249 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: little bit of a bummer because I'm sitting here and 250 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I missed my friends, but running with my 251 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: friends just didn't feel the same for me, and that 252 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: they have their own goals, right and bless them, they 253 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: are running at a different pace than me, and so 254 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: it was challenging to have to pull back and you know, 255 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: miss out on some of my long run saturdays that I. 256 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: Used to look forward to so much. That was a 257 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: really big bummer. I would say. 258 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: The other really challenging thing that goes hand in hand 259 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: with that is the fact that I wasn't able to 260 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: run like I used to run. I had to let 261 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: go of the version of myself that I was knowing 262 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: and having appreciation for that person, but also recognizing that, like, 263 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with the fact that I'm in a 264 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: different place now. And so through letting go of the 265 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: past version of myself and expecting myself to run a 266 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: certain way, I was able to be more present and 267 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: be where my feet are and actually learn to have 268 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: fun and find joy again instead of being in constant 269 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: comparison mode. But I say that knowing that that didn't 270 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: make it easy. It was extremely difficult, extremely extremely difficult 271 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: to get to a place where I could truly enjoy this. 272 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: And I remember distinctly that I was on a long run, 273 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: maybe like a sixteen or eighteen miler, and it was 274 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: a really hot day, as all long runs typically fall on, 275 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: because that's just the beauty of training for a fall marathon, 276 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, like, I am not having fun. 277 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: And I really checked myself after that run. I really 278 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: had a moment where I was like, if you don't 279 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: rejigger your approach, if you don't analyze your mindset, if 280 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: you don't take a step back, then you're going to 281 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: get angry at yourself. And that is not the point 282 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: of this entire process. Because I firmly believe and this 283 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: is one of, if not the biggest takeaway is that 284 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: the journey here is the destination. The journey to Berlin 285 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: was a destination for me learning how to prioritize my 286 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: own health and well being, how to set boundaries, how 287 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: to listen to my body, how to invest in my 288 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: body so that my body could show up for me. 289 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: The journey is the destination, and that is exactly what 290 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: happened for me over the last three months. I also 291 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: do feel like it's important to talk a little bit 292 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: about the training. 293 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: Outside of the fact that I was able to handle. 294 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: The load, I didn't feel like I had any maybe 295 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: two out of got the handful that you do. I 296 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: felt as though I didn't really have any excellent long runs, 297 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: and that was really really disheartening, as I really wanted 298 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of a confidence boost, and I also 299 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: feel like it will help me as I move forward 300 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: in my life. Not to say that I truly plan 301 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: on running many marathons after I finished the World Majors, 302 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: but this was probably the first marathon training cycle out 303 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: of any marathon training cycle, where I felt this way. 304 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: I felt as though I always had like one or 305 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: two long runs that reminded me who the hell I 306 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: am and that I am capable. 307 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: But this year the heat didn't let up. 308 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: The travel schedule was nuts, and it was really disheartening 309 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: at points. Okay, getting prepared for race day, traveling for 310 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: an international marathon can be a little bit sticky. There's 311 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: a lot of things that you've to take into consideration. 312 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: I've done it a couple of times now. I've run 313 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: the Dublin Marathon. I also previously ran the London Marathon, 314 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: so that meant that I had a good idea of 315 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: what I knew I needed to do to gear up 316 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: to go abroad to tackle this big goal. One. A 317 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: packing list is absolutely necessary. I made that about a 318 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: week before I headed out, and then that way I 319 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: was able to get the things that were on that 320 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: list that maybe I didn't have just yet, so things 321 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: like try Slide or my gift to go packs that 322 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: I love to make my peanut butter and jelly sandwich with. 323 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: On race day, I bring my Norma tech boots, I 324 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: bring a hyper Voltic go So that packing list makes 325 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: it really easy and takes a lot of the anxiety 326 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: out of packing and making sure you're not messing things up. Now, 327 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: of course that doesn't mean that I didn't have anxiety 328 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: about the fact that I might have forgotten my garment 329 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: on the counter when I was headed to the airport, 330 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: but not so ft everything was a ohkay. Other things 331 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: I did in preparation for this. I will note that 332 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: I was traveling a ton for work. So not only 333 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: is it like a huge investment of time and energy 334 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: and finances that I've had to make over the last 335 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: three months, but making that investment consciously while also being 336 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: on the road for work definitely had its challenges, making 337 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: and prioritizing training when my schedule was not completely my own. 338 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: Also when I got certain places, like when I got 339 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: to San Francisco, I was hosting a panel for San 340 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Francisco Marathon, working in collaboration with Puma, and instead of 341 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: going sight seeing the day that I got there, I 342 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: haven't been around San Francisco since pre pandemic, I went 343 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: and got a massage and went to a sauna. Controlling 344 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: the controllables, I had to make certain sacrifices in favor 345 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: of going after this goal of running my fifth marathon major. 346 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: I've talked about it on the show before. It's all 347 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: about opportunity, costs and this had a big one for me. 348 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: So the packing is done for Berlin, we get over there. 349 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: I have work in Italy the days proceeding getting to Berlin, 350 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: so I'm in Italy from Tuesday morning to Thursday morning, 351 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: and then I fly to Berlin on Thursday morning. And 352 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: I would say that I really appreciated the amount of 353 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: time that I had before the race to kind of 354 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: just relax, put my feet up, do the things I 355 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: need to do, and not stress out. Just like your 356 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: body deals with stress physical stress, emotional stress can also 357 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: be something that can be really taxing on your central 358 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: nervous system, and that is the last thing that you 359 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: want to be dealing with in the days leading up 360 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: to the marathon. 361 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 2: So for me, I. 362 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: Really try to minimize the things, the people, the energy drains, 363 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: the moments that I can avoid that are going to 364 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: make me feel stressed as much as possible in the 365 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: days leading up to going after this big goal. Right, 366 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: we've already endured so much opportunity costs. The last thing 367 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: I need to do is deal with stress that I 368 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: otherwise could have avoided. And so I was able to 369 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: get my BIB and hang out with some friends and 370 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: I went to go walk around the Jewish Museum in Berlin, 371 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: and I had the Hurdler meetup, which, oh my gosh, 372 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: the fact that like twenty six different women from all 373 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: around the world, including like different areas of Germany came 374 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: to spend time together on such a big weekend and 375 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: again like we are in Germany, the fact that there 376 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: were twenty six individuals that wanted to do that, Yeah, 377 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: that completely blows. 378 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: My mind and made me. 379 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: I still like I stutter when I think about that, 380 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: because it makes me feel so excited for what's to 381 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: come and what's already happened. And yeah, I'm I was 382 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: just such a fan of every single one of you 383 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: that showed up that day. 384 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: So thank you for inspiring me, and you had such 385 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: nice things to say to me. 386 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: But truly, I feel as though I can't do it 387 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: justice to tell you how much you all mean to me, 388 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: both you listening to this right now and then also 389 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: you that were there that day. 390 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: And so we had the Hurdler meetup and it was 391 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 2: so special. 392 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: And then that night I went to dinner with my 393 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: friend Alex, who I was staying with, and we got 394 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: into bed. 395 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: I'm not even exaggerating. 396 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: Probably at like nine fifteen the night before, I was 397 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: asleep by nine point thirty. On race day morning, I 398 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: woke up, I was like so excited. I was up 399 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: at five, like I could not sleep anymore. But the 400 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: two nights previous to that, I slept more than eight 401 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: and a half hours. And I would say to anyone 402 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: who is an anxious person the night before a race, 403 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: the most important thing you can do is rest as 404 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: much as possible in the day's leading up and prioritize 405 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: your sleep in the days leading up. So I knew 406 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: that I had one evening that I got ten hours 407 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: of sleep, another evening where I got eight and a 408 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: half hours of sleep, and so I had felt I 409 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: felt really good about what I had going into the 410 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: night before the marathon, and I still seven hours the 411 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: night before the marathon. Woke up marathon morning, had everything 412 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: laid out already, including my timing chip laced in my shoe. 413 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: Talk about anxiety. They give you the timing chip separate 414 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: from your bib, so you need to make sure you 415 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: put it on your shoe and if you forget it, 416 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: you're out of luck. So timing shoe timing chip was 417 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: on my shoe bib. 418 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: On clothes on. This is the rundown of what I wore. 419 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: I wore Lululemon Traintime short six inch with pockets. I 420 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: wore the Lululemon they had like a mesh back top 421 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: a few years ago that I had customized with the 422 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: words another Hurdle Conquered. I'm working to make those. They 423 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: will likely not be available at all this marathon season, 424 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: but they will be out probably early next year, or 425 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: maybe even for Christmas if we're lucky. I wore an 426 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: underarmor mid bral bandit running race weight socks, the Sockeny 427 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: and Dorphin Elite shoe, and I wore my hair in 428 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: braided pigtails French braided pigtails, Gooder sunglasses. I used U 429 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: can Edge Energy in strawberry banana and I drank Element 430 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: two of them before the race, two bottles that I 431 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: mixed up and brought myself. And I think that is 432 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: everything the race itself. Okay, so let's talk about the 433 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: race plan. The race plan was that I the week 434 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: before was thinking about what would be smart for me, 435 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: and I talked a little bit about one of the 436 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: most challenging parts of this whole training cycle being that 437 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: I needed to stop comparing myself now to the person 438 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: that I was, and I knew that I could confidently 439 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: with the training that I did, run a four hour marathon. 440 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: For context, my previous personal best marathon is a three 441 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: twenty three fifty six that was a virtual in New York. 442 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: My previous like in person IRL marathon my PR was 443 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: a three twenty eight oho eight from Chicago twenty nineteen. 444 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: And so I knew that I could confidently run a 445 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: four hour marathon. And I had a friend from my 446 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: run club here in the city, Old Man Run Club 447 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: Shout Out, and my friend Janine wanted to break four 448 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 1: for the first time, and for her that would be 449 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: almost a sixteen minute PR. And so I reached out 450 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: to her and I was like, hey, I was like 451 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: completely up to you, but I wanted to see if 452 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: you wanted to kind of go at this together on Sunday. 453 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: I really feel like I could help you out. 454 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: We could be there for each other, even if it's 455 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: like running next to each other with headphones in whatever 456 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: you want. 457 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: I would love to do this together. And she was like, 458 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 2: you know what, let's do it. 459 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: And we had like many conversations kind of sussing out 460 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: like different situations and what could happen and what that 461 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: might look like for this arrangement that we were setting up. 462 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: But all things considered, I felt like that was a 463 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: really smart decision for me because I knew that it 464 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: wasn't going to have me chasing or feeling as though 465 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: I was to do something that like, it's not where 466 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: I am right now. I think that if I didn't 467 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: have Janine, we went out in our first like sixteen 468 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: miles or so, were between like eight forty, with the 469 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: exception of our first one, which was like eight thirty 470 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: because it was exciting, but like between eight forty and 471 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: nine oh five. And I think that if I didn't 472 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: have Jeanine, I probably would have been trending like down 473 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: to like eight oh five to eight thirty, and that 474 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: just I think I would have burned out a little bit, 475 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: and I think I would have just put way too 476 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: much pressure on myself. And so, yeah, we got to 477 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: the starting village. I will say this, I didn't think 478 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: the porta potty situation in Berlin was ideal at all. 479 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: There were a lot of really long lines and it 480 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: was really frustrating and anxiety inducing, and the corrals were 481 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: packed like there were plenty of people that couldn't even 482 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: fit in the corral before we started, and we had 483 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: to wait for the race to get going to get 484 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: into place. So if you were planning to run Berlin, 485 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 1: I would say, definitely try to pee asap when you 486 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: get there, and then know that there are also port 487 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: potties in the corrals, and then beyond that, don't freak 488 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: out if you don't fit in the corral. They will 489 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: let you in before letting the next corral go. So 490 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: we're in the corral and we start off and it's exciting, 491 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: right like we're running a marathon. 492 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: We're out there and. 493 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: I will I will point out a few highlights from 494 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: the race. The first like fifteen sixteen miles, Like I said, 495 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: I believe they were between like eight forty and nine 496 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: oh five pace. We kept hitting the sweet spot between 497 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: like eight forty and eight fifty five. And I would 498 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: look at Janine and I would say the last two 499 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: numbers like forty seven or fifty when we'd cross another mile, 500 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: and I'd ask her to give me an rpe, a 501 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: way to perceived exertion. So for her she'd be like, 502 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 1: I'm at a six, I'm at a six she kept 503 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: being at a six, and I was like, are you 504 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: okay with this pace? Because we were clearly running faster 505 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: than you needed to run if you wanted to run 506 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: sub four. Sub four I believe is nine oh seven 507 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: pace for twenty six point two miles. We felt good 508 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: and she kept saying a six, so we kept cruising 509 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: at this pace. Now, mind you, before I go on, 510 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: you should note that I've never run with someone else 511 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: for an entire marathon, and I've never paced someone for 512 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: a marathon, so. 513 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 2: This was definitely new for me. 514 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: Like I was a little anxious over it, but again 515 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: like I was confident in my ability and what I 516 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: could do, so I just was doing the best I 517 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: could with what I had. And when we get to 518 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: the nine kilometer mark, which is just shy of six miles, 519 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: we decided to do a gratitude at the top of 520 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: every kilometer, So at every single kilometer marker, one of 521 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: us would go first, and a lot of them were 522 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: things like my family, my friends, my partner, my sneakers, 523 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: good food, my health, so many things like we had 524 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: some really great conversations during this run, and other things 525 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: were like a little bit less expected. I shared a 526 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: little something on Instagram the other day about someone that 527 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: was in my DMS after I went through my horrific 528 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: twenty mile run for the marathon, in which I decided 529 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: to go out and try to do it on a 530 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: ninety six degree day because of my travel schedule, which 531 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: wasn't my most brilliant moment, and I got a DM 532 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: from someone who said, like taunting me, well, maybe Berlin 533 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: isn't such a good idea, and I I, in the 534 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: words of Cocoa Goth, this man was just adding fuel 535 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: gas to my fire. And I am, as I said, 536 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: someone who really safeguards or energy tries to always, but 537 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: especially leading up to a marathon, like something that I've 538 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: worked so hard for, and so I don't block people often, 539 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: but I blocked this man and then he followed me 540 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: on Strava and then I blocked him there and so 541 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: I gave him a mile during the marathon. I was like, 542 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: thank you for the gas, thank you for fueling my fire, 543 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: and thank you for reminding me the beauty of boundaries. 544 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: And it's just one of those things that it's all 545 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: about perspective, right, Like I could have let him get 546 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: to me, and I refuse to let him get to me, 547 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: because I valued my energy, my space, and my mental 548 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: health way too much to cave to that kind of 549 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: conversation or that dialogue. So I gave him a kilometer, 550 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: and then I gave the last ten kilometers to my body. 551 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: I felt just so grateful, honestly, like so truly thankful 552 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: that I was able to show up to that starting 553 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: line period and considering that, you know, again that one 554 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: minute on, two minutes off, I was doing that this year, 555 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: and then I was able to tow the starting line 556 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: and cross the finish line of a full marathon. I 557 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: just it's hard to come to words or like really 558 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: articulate what that really means to me, because I just 559 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm overwhelmed with gratitude. So those last ten k where 560 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: every one of them, they were all for my body 561 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: and what I was able to do that day. Talking 562 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: about the specifics about the race, I would say we 563 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: started to hit some hiccups, like on the back end, 564 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: as a lot of individuals do during a marathon. You're 565 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: out there for a long time. The water stations in 566 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: Berlin got really chaotic after twenty and there was a 567 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: lot of water on the ground. We were jumping through puddles. 568 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: My friend that I was pacing, shout out to Jeanie 569 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: and Jeanine like to do a walk through the water 570 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: stations because the cups that they were using were really 571 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: hard to like bend and sip out of while you 572 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: were running. So this way, if we slowed it down, 573 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: we could drink the water out of the cup, make 574 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: sure we got in that hydration because that was super important, 575 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: and then like get back to going. But I was 576 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: determined to keep the pace, so I would start to 577 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: try to drink it regardless and keep moving and then 578 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: have her catch up to me, and I'd hold my 579 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: right fist out and she'd fist bump me when. 580 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: She got to me, and then we'd keep going. 581 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: Another strategy that we use during the marathon was if 582 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: we were ever like really ahead of pace and I 583 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: knew we had more time left to go in the mile, 584 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: so to speak, I would have us jog until we 585 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: hit the next mile. So say, if we were running 586 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: and we were on something like eight forty pace and 587 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: we could be running eight fifty five, I'd get to 588 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: like point ninety six in the mile, and I had 589 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: this tracking on my garment on my left wrist, and 590 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: then I'd say jog and we'd jog it out out 591 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: for the rest of that mile, and then when it 592 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: started again, we'd go back to running pace. And that 593 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: was something that we actually both really enjoyed and kind 594 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: of like had a little reprieve in the midst of 595 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: everything that specifically that idea of run the mile that 596 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: you're in was really really, really, really really pertinent for 597 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 1: me this marathon. I've never gone into a marathon with 598 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: that mantra, but it's so relevant to I mean, especially 599 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 1: this entire training start, like this entire training cycle and 600 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: what I've been going through personally. Not much of that, 601 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: I guess I've talked about on the show, but yeah, it's, uh, 602 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: you have to meet yourself with where you are and 603 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: you know, whatever happened already, Like, I can't change what's happened. 604 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: I can't change the past, but I can do my 605 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: best and do the best with what I have going forward. 606 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: And I again, like, I'm not who I was at 607 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: this time last year. I'm not who I was this 608 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: time five years ago. I'm not the same Emily that 609 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: ran a three twenty eighth eight in Chicago in twenty nineteen. 610 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm an entirely different woman right now, and that woman 611 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: still has value. I have moments where I've felt so 612 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: frustrated with my body this year, and when I think 613 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: about what happened in Berlin, I really do feel I 614 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: feel like I shouldn't have been so hard on myself. 615 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: It's not lost on me that we are the people 616 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: that we speak to the most in any given day. 617 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: And I will be the first to admit that my 618 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: dialogue this year has been not the nicest. And it's 619 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: something that I'm working on, and I'm speaking with a 620 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: life coach, and I'm working with some other experts, and 621 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to wrangle all of these demons that I 622 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: feel like I've been fighting for a multitude of reasons. 623 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: And in that process, yes, I am reminded to stay 624 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: in the mile that I am in, and I am 625 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: reminded that if you break it up into little doables, 626 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,239 Speaker 1: it feels a lot less overwhelming, right. And so to 627 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: be in that marathon and to pace Janine and have 628 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: the setting on my watch that was like clicking by 629 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: one mile out a tie, one mile at a time, 630 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: one mile at a time, it I obviously had like 631 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: the mile markers or the kilometer markers on the course. 632 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: But it wasn't until we got to seventeen point eight 633 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: that I remember changing the setting on my watch to 634 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: see and double check, like how far we had gone total, 635 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: to see how much progress we had made. And I 636 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: was blown away by how much progress we had made. 637 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: And I think there's a really beautiful analogy there, right, 638 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: this idea that if you're just so much more dialed 639 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: in on the little moments, and you're embracing that gratitude, 640 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: and you are where your feet are and you're being present, 641 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: then it just feels so much more damn doable. And 642 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: that truly is exactly what happened out there on Sunday. 643 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: I felt so much more capable, and I can say 644 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: confidently that like we never hit the proverbial wall. 645 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: Something. Also want to make sure I touch on marathon nutrition. 646 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: I consume six you can edge gels during my race, 647 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: all six of them. I was taking one roughly every 648 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: like six k or so. And if I forgot the 649 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: last time that I took one, which you should be 650 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: able to do basic math, and I should. 651 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: Have been able to do mesic math. 652 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: But obviously, when you're running a marathon, your head's not 653 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: always screwed on completely the normal right way, and so 654 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: I would just take one again. There was one aid 655 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: station on the course where they had more in gels, 656 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: which I have had before, and I took two of 657 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: those just to have with me in case I felt 658 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: as though I needed something else, but I stuck to 659 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: the six you can't edge that I brought with me. 660 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a link in the show notes where 661 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: you can get a free sample back. All you have 662 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: to do is pay shipping. They are a sponsor on 663 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: the show, and so definitely definitely take advantage of that. Otherwise, 664 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: at every aid station, I try to drink either water 665 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: or the more than one sixty drink mix was on 666 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 1: the course that was like their electrolyte option. They also 667 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: did serve tea on the course, which was absolutely ludicrous. 668 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: I accidentally grabbed a cup at one point and I 669 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: was like, what is this and they were like, it's tea. 670 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't warm tea, it wasn't cold tea. It was 671 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: like room temperature tea. 672 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: I have no idea. I have no idea, but no. 673 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,959 Speaker 2: I basically drank drink mix. 674 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: At every station had those six gels and I never 675 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: really felt as though I hit the wall. I felt 676 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: really confident and how my body felt, my stomach didn't hurt. 677 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: All was good. 678 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: I remember, with like five miles left, I looked at 679 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: Jeanine and I was starting to do math in my head, 680 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: which isn't necessarily my strongest suit, and I said to her, 681 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: if you can run a ten minute mile for the 682 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: next six miles, like we've got this in the bag. 683 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: And she was like, we can do this. 684 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: And I looked at her and I said we can 685 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: do this, and we fist bumped and then we kept on. 686 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: Kept keeping on. We kept on keeping on, and yeah, 687 00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: I mean. 688 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: We got toward the end and again like it did 689 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: feel like we were racing the clock because we were 690 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: cutting it close. Like I said, the time for us 691 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: was around three point fifty eight, forty three and forty 692 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: four respectively, and so those last two to two point 693 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: two three miles we were booking it. I think the 694 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: last two were eight thirty and eight minutes maybe, And 695 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: the funniest part truly was that we get to Bradenburg Gate, 696 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: which is like this big monument that's like right by 697 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: the finish, and I think the last like point one 698 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: is right after the gate or something like that. And 699 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: we get through the gate and I look around and 700 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: I've lost Janine and I don't see her anywhere. And 701 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: in my head, I was like, oh no, we did 702 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: not come this far to only come this far. So 703 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking all around me for Jeanine. I do not 704 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: see her. I literally stop, like I stop running and 705 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm steering for her. I think like maybe she faded. 706 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm panicking. There were runners running by me. 707 00:36:52,320 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: I give it like probably that long, like six seconds 708 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: of time, and I'm like, I guess I have to 709 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: keep running, and so I start sprinting for the finish 710 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: to try to make up the time that I just 711 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: spent standing there. I sprint and find Janine who had 712 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: passed me, and we crossed the finish line together. And 713 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: we crossed that finish line absolutely exhausted and just like 714 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: collapsed into one another's arms and we're crying, and it 715 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: is just like, I swear, as amazing as it felt 716 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: for me and like so special to cross off this 717 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: goal and to do this and to show myself like 718 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: I can and what happens, and I invest in myself 719 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: and in my body. There is something so special about 720 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: seeing someone that you care about do the same, and 721 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: to see her in that moment like it made me 722 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: think of of the you know, the milestones that I 723 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,959 Speaker 1: had been through, and when I qualified for Boston and 724 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: in that Chicago, my previous PR I think was something 725 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: like three forty seven, and I ran up three twenty 726 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: eight or three forty nine, I don't even remember. 727 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: But it was something like that. 728 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: It was almost it was twenty minutes that I cut off, 729 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: and that was something that I never thought possible. And 730 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: Janine said to me so many times that day when 731 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: we were celebrating, she said, I never thought I'd run 732 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: a marathon, so for I never did. I never, never, 733 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: never thought it was possible. And so to her, I say, 734 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: look at what happens when you trust your training, when 735 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: you trust yourself, and when you just go for it, 736 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: when you stop believing whatever narrative it is that you're 737 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: telling yourself and trust your gut, like such amazing, amazing, 738 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: beautiful things can happen. 739 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 2: And I'm so proud of you. 740 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: I know you're listening to this right now, and I'm 741 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: so proud of Eugenie, and I'm so honored that we 742 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: were able to do that together, and I'm so grateful 743 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: for OMRC for introducing us, and yeah, just I wouldn't 744 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: have changed a single thing about that run. I really 745 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't have. I feel now. I'm I think, three days 746 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: out after the marathon, I feel better in my body 747 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: than I think I've ever felt after a marathon. I 748 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: am not I will say the only casualty. I have 749 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: some gnarly chafing, and I think it's just because how 750 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: salty I was on that day. But it's not cute, 751 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: and it's ring lines from the top of my shorts 752 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: and the bottom of my sportspra there like literally circles 753 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: around my body and it is slightly unnerving. But I've 754 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: been putting neosporin on that. I feel really I don't 755 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: know how many times I can say this on one episode, 756 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: I feel really grateful. I think there are some things 757 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: that I'm still kind of working on and like I'm 758 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 1: working through and maybe I'll talk about them in depth 759 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: a little more at some point. But like I said, 760 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: like I've just had such a difficult relationship with my 761 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: body over the past two years, and that is large 762 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: in part because of it changing a little bit as 763 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: a result of different medications that I've been on. And 764 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: I was reminded on Sunday that not only do I 765 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: need to be kinder to myself, but that we are amazing, 766 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 1: and I am amazing, and I am capable so many 767 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: ways to do so many things. And when you do 768 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: something like run a marathon, you know, it's not about running. 769 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: It's that reminder. It's that reminder that we are great. 770 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: It's this reminder that there is so much that is 771 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: out there for us if we just believe in our 772 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: own potential. 773 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: And yeah, I feel really really good about that. 774 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: We went out and we celebrated in Berlin after the marathon, 775 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: and I was with some good friends and Janine and 776 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: her husband and my friend Alex, and then we went 777 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: to a party at the Berlin Braves and it was 778 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: just so much fun. I am really looking forward to 779 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: unplugging now, and I am also really really looking forward 780 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: to finding a little bit more of the joy in 781 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: running as I move forward, not being so hard on 782 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: my self and building on this progress. Like I said, 783 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean, my goal is to run all six world 784 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: marathon majors. I'm hoping to check off Tokyo from the 785 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: list early next year. So that means I have a 786 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a reprieve for a few months right 787 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: now until we get back to it. And I want 788 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: to make sure that I continue this forward momentum, that 789 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: I continue to take care of my body, that I'm 790 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: being kind to myself. I really had to trust my 791 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: gut and trust myself and put in the work this 792 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: time around. And not to say that training for other 793 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 1: marathons like I didn't have to put in the work, 794 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: but this was just a different kind of work. It 795 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: looked different than it ever had before, and I had 796 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: to trust it and I had to trust myself, and 797 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: at times that felt really challenging and it was hard 798 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: that it looked really different. But just because it looks 799 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 1: different doesn't mean that it's not working. And I'm sitting 800 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: here three days after running my twelve marathon, and I 801 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: can tell you that it worked. 802 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 2: And now we've got some more hurdles to conquer. 803 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: Like I said, if you've got more questions, I'm all 804 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: here is I'd love to answer them in an upcoming episode, 805 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: So leave. 806 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 2: Me a voice message. Lilling to do. 807 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: That is in the show notes. And if for some 808 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: reason that's acting a little wonky for you. You can 809 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: always email us your voice memo over at Hello at 810 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: hurdle dot u s. That's it for this week, another 811 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.