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Speaker 1: It is One Bill's Live, presented by called Lida Health.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome into ah Friday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Yes, we have made it to Friday, and

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Speaker 2: since we're close to the weekend, we're not slacking off.

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Speaker 2: We are loading up because we've got some awesome guests

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Speaker 2: a part of today's show. WIVB sports director Josh Reed

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Speaker 2: joining us today as well as former Bills player Bill's

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Speaker 2: legend George Wilson, who played safety here from two thousand

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Speaker 2: and four to twenty twelve, seven seasons with the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Glad to have you a part of the show as

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Speaker 2: well today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Maddie. I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: With you and Josh and what brings you to town

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Speaker 2: this weekend.

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Speaker 4: I'm here for the girls regional State Flag football Championship,

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Speaker 4: so it's going to be here tomorrow at High Mark.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to be a part of it, be an

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Speaker 4: honorary captain and help hand out the trophies at the

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Speaker 4: end of the game. So I'm excited to be a

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Speaker 4: part of it tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Josh, you're stopping by too. Are you a

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Speaker 2: legendary captain?

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Speaker 1: There's nothing legendary about I can promise you that I've

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Speaker 1: been calling a lot of things legendary.

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Speaker 2: Them Hey, it starts today.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing the growth of girls in the in

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Speaker 1: the football realm of things, and in particular flag football.

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Speaker 5: It's so fun to watch them play.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I think in twenty twenty two the Bills helped to

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Speaker 4: establish the league, and I think back then it was

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Speaker 4: about only twenty, only twenty programs, and now to be

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Speaker 4: three years later, now there's seventy plus. So that shows

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Speaker 4: the amount of excitement and interest around flag and then

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Speaker 4: it also gives an opportunity for non traditional football players

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Speaker 4: to get around the game, fall in love with the game, and.

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Speaker 3: To really be able to have a first hand experience

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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bills released a video on Buffalo bills dot com.

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Speaker 2: Also you can check it out on x and it

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Speaker 2: tells the story of Buffalo's involvement in helping girls flag

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Speaker 2: football take off in Western New York. And it's jam

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Speaker 2: packed with some really cool stats as to how many

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Speaker 2: programs they started with, how many schools are now involved

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Speaker 2: in just kind of the footprint that they've had in

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Speaker 2: this area. The sport has grown so much in the

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Speaker 2: last several years, and it's because of a lot of

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Speaker 2: awesome people in this building and buy in from our

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Speaker 2: players and Bill's legends like yourself, George. We've seen a

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Speaker 2: lot of our players out at some of these tournaments

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Speaker 2: cheering the girls on and helping just be a champion

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Speaker 2: for flag football to grow. We know it's going to

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Speaker 2: be a sports in the Olympics, which is wild. And

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Speaker 2: I got to ask you, a former player, did you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I didn't never think that it would be

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Speaker 4: win a gold medal. But I do think that every

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Speaker 4: young athlete grows up wishing that they could have an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to represent their country, to win a medal, to

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Speaker 4: And so I think it's a it's a great opportunity

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Speaker 1: It's been interesting hearing the reaction of some of the

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Speaker 1: and it seems like it's gonna be pretty split because

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Speaker 1: But then you're gonna have some players that I'm sure

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to find that balance.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's about you know, creating those memories being

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Speaker 4: And so you know, the summer Olympics to usually take

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Speaker 3: To work around that.

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Speaker 4: You know, in flag compared to tackling, you do have

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Speaker 3: When making that decision.

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Speaker 4: But I think for the most part, guys guys will

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Speaker 2: Chiefs. Quarterback Patrick ma Holmes commented on potentially playing in

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Speaker 2: the Olympics with flag football. He had this to say.

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Speaker 2: He said, I think I'm just going to leave that

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Speaker 2: to the younger guys and let them have fun with it.

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Speaker 2: I'll focus on football and focus on being the quarterback

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Speaker 2: of the Kansas City Chiefs. But moving on to where

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Speaker 2: is happening now. The rookies are just in the building

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Speaker 2: things like that. So no practice today, but we've had

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Speaker 2: practices all week. They're going to continue to practice next

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Speaker 2: week and then soon enough, mandatory mini camp will take

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Speaker 2: place right here at one Bill's Drive before the big

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Speaker 2: break happens before training camp just set to take part

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Speaker 2: middle of July, second to last week of July. We

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Speaker 2: out soon. So I want to start big picture with

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Speaker 2: last few months that we've had in Buffalo, including free

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Speaker 2: agency and the draft. So George, I'll start with you first.

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Speaker 2: What's your favorite move the Bills have made this offseason?

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Speaker 4: Well, want to get Bosa. I mean, he's a game breaker,

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Speaker 4: he's a pass rusher, he's a he's a game changer.

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Speaker 4: I think that's an ingredient that we were missing in

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Speaker 4: behind the chains. I love that move forw us. In

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Speaker 4: addition to the depth that we added in the draft,

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Speaker 4: we're younger, we're stronger, we're more athletic. You know, we

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Speaker 4: I think it's all coming together for the for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: And the way the Bills rotate their defensive lineman, you

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Speaker 1: think that that would help keep Joey Bosa healthy. Obviously

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Speaker 1: But I do think if it's a situational thing with

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's fifty percent of the snaps, and maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of the passing downs, which let's face it,

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Speaker 1: that's as you see right there, that's when he's effective.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he can get after the quarterback still. And

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Speaker 1: off of my quarterback. But I'm with you, Georgie. I

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Speaker 1: think that's such a good signing for the Bills. If

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Speaker 1: he can stay on the field, we could be talking

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Speaker 1: about late in the season him making big plays that

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Speaker 1: gets this team over the hump.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite edition aside from Joey Bosa,

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Speaker 2: maybe a number two on your list.

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Speaker 1: If it's not Isa, I do and it's a guy

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Speaker 5: I think Elijah Moore is going to be a schooze.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I like this, I really do.

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Speaker 1: Look, they've got a lot of depth in that wide

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Speaker 1: kind of carve out his niche I do. Look, you

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Speaker 1: look around at his past and areas with the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: You know, he had Joe Flacco as his quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: that's probably the best quarterback he's ever played with.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and that says a lot.

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Speaker 1: Not to take anything away from Joe Flacco, but I

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Speaker 5: Now he's playing with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: If they can develop that chemistry, I think Elijah Moore

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Speaker 4: Well, to think about those wide receivers, especially in this system,

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Speaker 4: everybody can get the ball. Yeah, you know a lot

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Speaker 3: Maybe a third win if.

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Speaker 4: They have time and they're pulling the ball down and running.

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Speaker 4: Josh creates plays. He makes time, He buys time for

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Speaker 3: So I think there's enough footballs to go around to please.

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Speaker 1: And I've gotten some heat from Bills fans saying, well, where's.

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Speaker 5: He slot in?

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Speaker 1: They've got all these receivers, how's he possibly gonna get

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Speaker 5: And I say this every year this time in June July.

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Speaker 5: There's always injuries. This is the NFL, and.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's a wide receiver spot or defensive backs, injuries

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Speaker 2: We think about the guys who didn't get as many

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Speaker 2: the field a lot more this season. But you mentioned

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Speaker 2: spreading the ball out. It's what Buffalo did best last season.

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Speaker 2: They had over thirty rushing and thirty passing touchdowns, a

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Speaker 2: and they're going to run it back this year. Everybody

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Speaker 2: Eats is coming back for a second season. Josh Allen

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 4: Well, anytime you put up thirty passing touchdowns thirty rushing touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: The more you can have ten plus play drives, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bills allowed under a sack a game last year.

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Speaker 5: They will now award.

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Speaker 1: Award now the Protector of the Year awards, So now

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Speaker 1: A little bit of sidetrack there of getting that push

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Speaker 5: Statement on Dion's legacy.

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Speaker 1: He knows what motivates him, he knows what pushes him,

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Speaker 5: It didn't allow a sack.

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Speaker 5: We're sure it's gonna be warm in September.

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Speaker 3: You don't.

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Speaker 5: I hope it's warm in September.

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Speaker 2: If it's taken this long to warm off, Josh, we

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Speaker 4: I saw the weather for k flew up yesterday and

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Speaker 4: I now have to pack, pull out my sweats, and

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Speaker 1: Geez, you're living that life in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: at aight three five point fifty or tweet at us.

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Speaker 2: We'd be happy to read any of your questions and

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say the defensive front, defensive line. I

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Speaker 4: And if we can do that, we're we're gonna We're

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay on that side of the ball because,

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Speaker 5: So I don't know that you can improve a whole

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've been around the league. I deserve to start.

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Speaker 5: That's what it is. You know, the rookie take a

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Speaker 1: I know mine are gonna be focused on that cornerback

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Speaker 1: two spot.

442
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they go directly handed hand.

443
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Speaker 4: You know, the D line has a direct impact on

444
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Speaker 4: the play of the defensive backfield and so I think

445
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 4: both groups are have a lot of pressure on them.

446
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 4: On them going into the season, they're going to have

447
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Speaker 4: to answer their call and I'm sure they're up for the.

448
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Speaker 2: Task and looking at that battle. We talked about it

449
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Speaker 2: before we went on air, kind of just the mentality

450
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Speaker 2: that you have as a veteran to help a rookie

451
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Speaker 2: feel his way into the NFL and maybe even eventually

452
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Speaker 2: taking over a starting job. What is the mind set

453
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Speaker 2: that you have to have, one as a vet who's

454
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Speaker 2: coming in to compete for a starting job, and then

455
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Speaker 2: two as a rookie who is also trying to get

456
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Speaker 2: a starting job but learn from everybody around him.

457
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been through that personally when I was here playing,

458
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Speaker 4: and it is different for both sides of it. You know,

459
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Speaker 4: as a young guy coming in, you don't want to

460
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Speaker 4: come in with this sense of entitlement, you know, being

461
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Speaker 4: real high strung. You want to you want to be humble,

462
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Speaker 4: You want to be respectful and appreciative, you know, because

463
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Speaker 4: guys that you know are territorial. Veterans are territory over

464
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Speaker 4: their positions. You can't come in acting like it's yours

465
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Speaker 4: and you know, just move out the way because I'm

466
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 4: the young, cheaper, cheaper guy. But you know, I think

467
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Speaker 4: on the on the veteran side also that there has

468
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Speaker 4: to be some understanding that, hey, the team has to

469
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Speaker 4: make plans for the future. Nobody plays football forever. And

470
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Speaker 4: then also, I think there's a responsibility as a player

471
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Speaker 4: to help preserve the game and to support your brothers

472
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Speaker 4: in the fraternity of this game. And so there is

473
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Speaker 4: an obligation to still pour into this young guy so

474
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Speaker 4: that he understands what it takes to be a pro,

475
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Speaker 4: what it looks like, what it feels like, what it

476
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Speaker 4: sounds like. And so there is some responsibility on both

477
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Speaker 4: guys to be able to figure out how to make

478
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Speaker 4: that work, how to find that balance to where we're

479
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Speaker 4: respectful competitors.

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Speaker 3: I want to see you do good. You want to

481
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Speaker 3: see me do good.

482
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Speaker 4: I'm not over here rooting for you to make a

483
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Speaker 4: mistake to try to improve my chances. We're genuinely doing

484
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Speaker 4: this for the right reasons, which is to make us

485
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Speaker 4: better individually but also make our team better collectively.

486
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Speaker 1: It's a delicate balance, right, But that's what Brandon and

487
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Speaker 1: Sean and Bobby just talking at that side of the

488
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Speaker 1: ball do such a good job of doing. They make

489
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Speaker 1: sure that the guys they put in these individual rooms

490
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Speaker 1: mesh well together.

491
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Speaker 5: I'm positive that.

492
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Speaker 1: When they had conversations with Trey and with Dane and

493
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Speaker 1: even with Max when they drafted him that, look, this

494
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Speaker 1: is going to be a competition for this starting job.

495
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Speaker 1: The best player, the guy that's going to help us

496
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Speaker 1: win games, is going to get the start. Now, that

497
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Speaker 1: could change throughout the season.

498
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Speaker 5: Who knows.

499
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Speaker 1: Maybe Trey's the guys that gets the first shot, maybe

500
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Speaker 1: it's Dayed, maybe it's but if at some point one

501
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Speaker 1: of those other guys passes him up, then that guy

502
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Speaker 1: is going to be the one that's going to be

503
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Speaker 1: on the field. But the veterans they bring in, to

504
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Speaker 1: your point, like, look, veterans are territorial. I mean, that's

505
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Speaker 1: just you don't get to this spot in your career

506
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Speaker 1: without having that confidence that you can go out and

507
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Speaker 1: play and you can be the guy that makes the difference.

508
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Speaker 1: But I would be willing to bet that Trey and

509
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Speaker 1: Dane would say, look, if the young kid gives us

510
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Speaker 1: a chance to get a ring, I will help mold

511
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Speaker 1: him and I will take my ring, take my ring,

512
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Speaker 1: and I will be at the parade two with him.

513
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Speaker 1: I mean, and that that's so important, that's so key

514
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Speaker 1: that they bring in these guys. We we talk about

515
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Speaker 1: it so often since Shawn and Brandon have got here

516
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Speaker 1: the culture aspect of everything, and they just they don't

517
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Speaker 1: bring in people. They don't bring in players that upset

518
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Speaker 1: that that culture that they've really built here. And quite frankly,

519
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: they've built it so well and it's so ingrained that

520
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Speaker 1: I don't know that I don't really know how much

521
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Speaker 1: Sean and the coaches have to really stand on it anymore,

522
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Speaker 1: because the players do it. Yeah, because now they've got

523
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Speaker 1: Josh doing it, They've got Dion doing it. They've got

524
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Speaker 1: the guys in place now, they've got Terrell Bernard and

525
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Speaker 1: Tarren Johnson on that side of the bar ball. They've

526
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Speaker 1: got guys in this building now that they've set the

527
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Speaker 1: foundation and the standard, and now they can kind of

528
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Speaker 1: let the players.

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Speaker 5: Obviously Sean and.

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Speaker 1: Brandon and those guys have their hands on it, but

531
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Speaker 1: it's a lot easier once you've set the foundation and

532
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Speaker 1: you've proven you can win with the way they're doing things,

533
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Speaker 1: and then you let your guys handle business well.

534
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Speaker 4: When you implement the culture the right way, the players

535
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Speaker 4: are supposed to take it over.

536
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Speaker 3: You know.

537
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Speaker 4: It's their response to police the locker room, to ensure

538
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Speaker 4: that the standard of preparation of taking care of your

539
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Speaker 4: body of practicing and conditioning is upheld day in and

540
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Speaker 4: day out.

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Speaker 3: And so that's when you know you've done it the

542
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Speaker 3: right way.

543
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Speaker 4: But Josh, you said's a couple of key things when

544
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 4: you talk about position competitions, is they started out with communicating.

545
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 4: There was a clear message from the management, from the coaches,

546
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Speaker 4: this is what you can expect. Everybody's gonna get a

547
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Speaker 4: fair shot. Everybody's gonna get an opportunity. Whoever stands at

548
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Speaker 4: the standing at the end, you're gonna get it because

549
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 4: you earned it, not because there are some backroom conversations

550
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: going on where we're giving the perception of competition. But

551
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 4: we really already have our choice already made. And so

552
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Speaker 4: it's about that clear understanding of what the expectations are.

553
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Speaker 4: We all are on the same playing field. There's nobody

554
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Speaker 4: hanging back after meetings talking to the position coach or

555
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 4: going upstairs to talk to the general manager to kind

556
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 4: of brown nose and try to figure out where you

557
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: what you can do to kind of leverage things in

558
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 4: your favor. And it's organic and when you have that

559
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 4: type of competition, it's going to bring the best out

560
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 4: of everybody, not just in that position group or in

561
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: that positionular battle, but across the entire locker room because

562
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: guys are seeing two or three guys battle for this

563
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: one spot and they see how they're doing it.

564
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Speaker 3: They're doing it fun, with fun, they're doing.

565
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Speaker 4: It respectfully, and god, it makes other guys want to

566
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Speaker 4: do that and challenge themselves to be a better version

567
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 4: of themselves wherever they're playing on the field.

568
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Speaker 5: As well, whether it was your position group or a

569
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Speaker 5: different one. Were you ever in a locker room.

570
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Speaker 1: Where you're like, oh man, this is getting kind of

571
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: this is getting kind of strange over here with the

572
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: jockeying behind the scenes for more playing time and more

573
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and that, to me, that makes it

574
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Speaker 1: uncomfortable for a lot of people in the room.

575
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've experienced the firsthand. You've seen it, well, Yeah,

576
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 4: I literally was in a battle where a position battle

577
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 4: during my career, not not here in Buffalo, but when

578
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 4: I went to Tennessee, and to me, it was it

579
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Speaker 4: was presented to me as it was an open competition,

580
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 4: but the way things were happening behind the scenes, I

581
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: knew that it wasn't as much of a competition. It

582
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: was only a competition in words for the media, for

583
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 4: the media exactly, and for the for the other guy

584
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Speaker 4: that I was competing with. I mean, at the end

585
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 4: of the day, you know, I was willing to let

586
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: the chips fall where they may. You beat me, you

587
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 4: beat me, but I just didn't appreciate that they told

588
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 4: me it was it was a competition, and I'm working

589
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: as if it is, and then it turns out to

590
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 4: not be that. I was seasoned enough to say, hey,

591
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. I still have to prepare to be

592
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: the starter. And I eventually did play because he got hurt.

593
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: But it just comes across as disingenuous and not honest,

594
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: and you lose you lose confidence, you it damages the

595
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: relationship between the player, the player.

596
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: And the coach. The trust is not there.

597
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 4: So if the trust is not there, just like in

598
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: any type of working relationship or intimate relationship, the trust

599
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 4: is not there, the relationship is not gonna last. You're

600
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: not gonna be the best version of yourself. I'm not

601
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: gonna be the best version of myself. I'm not gonna

602
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: communicate how I clearly feel because I don't think that

603
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: it really matters at the end of the day, and

604
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: when you see that.

605
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Speaker 3: I'm not.

606
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Speaker 4: I'm not the only guy who saw that. Other guys

607
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 4: in my position room saw that as well. Other guys

608
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 4: on the defense saw that as well. And so now

609
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: that starts.

610
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: To create division, and it creates conversations.

611
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Speaker 4: Even if I'm not a part of that, I'm not

612
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 4: not trying to have those sidebar conversations to to you know,

613
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: express how frustrating it may have been for me. No,

614
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: I took that home with me and I processed it

615
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: on my own. But a younger guy, immature guy, that

616
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: might start a fire in the locker room. That spreads,

617
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: and now that trust, that lack of trust starts to dissipate,

618
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 4: not just from that position group, but across the locker room.

619
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Speaker 4: And now you got a locker room in disarray where

620
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: nobody trusts the coaches, nobody trust the team, the teammates

621
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Speaker 4: on the field, and it leads to losing football at

622
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Speaker 4: the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott told us earlier this week that regardless of

624
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Speaker 2: where the position battle is, it is an open competition

625
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: whoever is going to win that job. It doesn't matter

626
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: if they're a first round draft pick, it doesn't matter

627
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: if they've been on the team for seven years. It

628
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if they came from another team. It is

629
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 2: a true open competition. We've seen that with position groups

630
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: already on this roster. I mean, Christian Benford was a

631
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: sixth round pick and he beat out kyer Elam, who

632
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: was a first round pick in this same draft class.

633
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: And I think players on the roster have respected how

634
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: our coaching staff has gone about that in that it

635
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: is clear communication and they aren't just saying things to

636
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: say things. They when they say it, they truly mean it.

637
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: So that's always good to get that type of feedback

638
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: from your players and to be able to see how

639
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: it played out. Of course, Kayer wanted that starting job,

640
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: but Christian Benford earned it, and here he is on

641
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: his second contract in Buffalo. We're going to take a break,

642
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: but when we return, I want to get George's take

643
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: on the safety battle that's happening in OTAs and we'll

644
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 2: heat up during training camp. And let's also take a

645
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: walk down memory lane and you're playing days with the

646
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. And remember you can give us a call

647
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: to chime into the conversation at eighth three, five point

648
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Speaker 2: fifty or tweet at us. We'll be answering those phone

649
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: calls next and continuing the conversation on when Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Represented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

651
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: into One Bill's Live. Matti glab here alongside of WIVB

652
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: sports director Josh Reid and Bill's legend George Wilson, who

653
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: played for Buffalo from two thousand and four to twenty twelve.

654
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: You played at the strong safety position, and we've spoken

655
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: about some position groups who we think will have a

656
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: big jump from last year into this season. One of

657
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: those position groups that we touched on already is safety.

658
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Speaker 2: I want to get your expertise since it's the position

659
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Speaker 2: that you played at. There's a battle going on at

660
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Speaker 2: the safety position, like you talked about, Josh, You've got

661
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: Taylor Rapp, You've got DeMar Hamlin and Cole Bishop, and

662
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: Taylor Rapp is somebody who has been spoken about by

663
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: this coaching staff as somebody who they really trust and

664
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: like in that starting role. So I would assume Rap

665
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: sees a lot of the field in twenty twenty five.

666
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: The safety's on this raw are also they have such

667
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: a big responsibility. If you look at the secondary these

668
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: are some guys who are making a lot of calls, alignment, assignment,

669
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: things like that, and Taylor Rappt does a great job

670
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: at doing that. Derek Forrest is also a safety that

671
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: the Bills signed in free agency who saw some success

672
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: during his NFL career a couple of years ago. I

673
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: can't remember exactly what season it was, but had four

674
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: interceptions in his best season in the NFL. And as

675
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: you look at these three safeties who are going to

676
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: be battling it out, you have Cole Bishop, who's somebody

677
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: who is in his second season as an NFL player,

678
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: and his story was training camp last year, suffered an injury,

679
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: kind of a big setback for rookie who's getting ready

680
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: to start. This is a second round pick by the

681
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: Bills last year and didn't see the field as much

682
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: as I think he would have liked to, because that's

683
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: a lot of learning to do and if you're being

684
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: held out of a lot of training camp, not going

685
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: to be starting with your best foot forward. So Bishops

686
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: saw a few starts at the end of the season

687
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: and you could see, Okay, he is learning. We're seeing

688
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: progression here from him at this position group. And then

689
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: you also have Damar Hamlin, who's somebody who was a

690
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: full time starter for this defense last year, started in

691
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: fourteen games, had two interceptions, and then also had a

692
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: starting year in twenty twenty two where he started in

693
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: thirteen games, played in fifteen. We know DeMar Hamlin's story

694
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: and his setbacks on the football field and just what

695
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: he had to do to get healthy enough to play

696
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: the game and start as a safety on the Buffalo

697
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Bills roster. What do you think of the three that

698
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: are going to be in the mix for this starting

699
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: safety position. As I kind of tell you the story

700
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: of the guys who are going to be vying for

701
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: the job, it's a.

702
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: Good situation to be in to have three guys that

703
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: could be viable starters on this team. But when you

704
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: think about the safety position, the mic linebacker typically calls

705
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 4: the defense, but it's the safeties who typical are the

706
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 4: quarterbacks of the defense because they can see more of

707
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 4: the field.

708
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: As a safety, you have.

709
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 4: To be locked in and at a clear understanding of

710
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 4: what the defensive line is doing when they're running the

711
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 4: stunts or doing, you know, any type of movements up front.

712
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 4: You have to also be locked in with what the

713
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: linebackers are doing because you have to come down into

714
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 4: the box oftentimes for run fits. And so you have

715
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 4: to understand the verbiage and the communication that goes on

716
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 4: between the defensive line the linebackers and be able to

717
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 4: communicate on the back end to your corners, to your nickels.

718
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 4: And so when I was a safety, I prided on

719
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 4: being able to just tell my corners, hey, save your legs.

720
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 4: We played a lot of men. Save your legs. Stay

721
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: out of the huddle. I'll give you a hand signal.

722
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: To be able to communicate what the play is, what

723
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 4: the technique you need to play on this next snap is.

724
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: And so you know, you have to have a deep, intimate,

725
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 4: intensive understanding of the defensive scheme and understand the different

726
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 4: situations that arise throughout the course of an NFL game.

727
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: And so with these three guys, it's gonna.

728
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: Come down too who makes the least amount of mistakes,

729
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 4: who's gonna be a sure tackler, and who can cover

730
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: in space because that's what the game is today. You

731
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: have to be an exceptional tackler of a running back.

732
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 4: Of the tight ends who are more athletic and bigger

733
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: and then with the growing athleticism on the outside at

734
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 4: wide receiver, you have to be able to have speed

735
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: to run with those guys on the outside, but enough

736
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 4: tackling and physical attributes and self confidence to be able

737
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 4: to come up and stuff the run when the ball

738
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: is handed off. And so you as a safety in

739
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 4: this version of the NFL game, you have to be

740
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 4: a jack of all trades. And that's what we have

741
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: with all three of these guys. And now was just

742
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 4: about who's gonna stay healthy, who's gonna give us the

743
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 4: best chance to win? And there's no substitute for experience.

744
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: So Damar has the most experience I think of the

745
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 4: three guys that we mentioned, uh, and that that that's

746
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 4: that confidence comes with that plan experience, but also with

747
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 4: what a young guy like Bishop who didn't really get

748
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 4: the opportunities that he that he would have gotten had

749
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: maybe had he not not gotten hurt in training camp

750
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: last year. But it's gonna be a nice competition to watch,

751
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 4: to see these guys push each other.

752
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: Challenge each other, and it's gonna be a.

753
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 4: Tough call for for for Being and for for Sean

754
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 4: to to really make that hard choice at the end

755
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 4: of camp.

756
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: What I'm hearing George says a former safety is safety

757
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: is are the most well rounded players on the football field,

758
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: because you've got to be able to do everything. I

759
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: do want to ask you one more thing about Cole Bishop.

760
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: What's the jump from year one to year two? Because

761
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: you hear players a lot of times talk about the

762
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: game just kind of slowing down from your own experience,

763
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: What was that like going that year one, year two,

764
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: the learning curve and everything like that.

765
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: Oh man, coming in as a young guy, you got

766
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 4: so many things coming at you. You got family and

767
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 4: friends off the field, but on the field, you're learning

768
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 4: a new scheme, you're learning new teammates, you're learning new coaches,

769
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 4: you're finding a place to live. Like it's just a

770
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: lot to absorb that in that year one, year two,

771
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 4: you're kind of settled. You don't have all those pressures,

772
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 4: kind of have your family kind of conditioned for when

773
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: they can have access to you, what's acceptable of a

774
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 4: request and what's not, So you don't have as many

775
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 4: of the off the field issues or just potential distractions

776
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 4: going into year two.

777
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 3: But from a football.

778
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: X and O standpoint, that plan experience gives you a

779
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: different mindset.

780
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 3: When you come back for off season workouts, you're you're.

781
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 4: Expecting to play, as opposed to coming in you're hoping

782
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 4: to get the opportunity, but you're expecting to play. You're

783
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: now getting a full off season workout that doesn't doesn't

784
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: include combine or combine training, the combine, going through draft

785
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 4: meetings and draft visits and going through the draft process.

786
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: You don't have all that. You Now you.

787
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 4: Go into a regular off season where you start training

788
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: around late February early March. You go through OTA's all

789
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 4: of that in the training camp. So psychologically it puts

790
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 4: you in a more confident space.

791
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: But then also you're ready for more. You're ready to

792
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: take it to the next level.

793
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 4: Because when you're implementing a learning a new defensive offensive

794
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: scheme in this case we're talking defense, they're giving you

795
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: entry level. They're spoon feeding you the information your two

796
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: They're gonna give you more, They're gonna expect more from you.

797
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: They're gonna give you more opportunities, more responsibility to kind

798
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 4: of see how you grow into this. And so you're

799
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: supposed to come in and take that bigg or step

800
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: because you don't have all the other moving parts of

801
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: the off season and you could just focus on refining

802
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 4: your craft, making sure your body is healthy and ready

803
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 4: to go. And that's the fun part about seeing this

804
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: competition unfold.

805
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: You had multiple years where you grew a lot as

806
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: an NFL player, from year one, year two, and then

807
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 2: from your transition from cornerback to wide receiver. How tough

808
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 2: was that transition to play a position where you didn't

809
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: have game experience playing in Oh?

810
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. I mean for me, it was challenging because

811
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 4: I played wide receiver, you know, my college years, my

812
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: first three years in the NFL, and then I come

813
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: into this opportunity. They asked me in April to make

814
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 4: no position change, and I have to make it by August,

815
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: you know, And so.

816
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: We're talking about we're talking about we're talking about a

817
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: four month period, and.

818
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: It didn't happen right in the moment.

819
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 4: But I had a conversation one day and the next

820
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: day I came back, I told him I'll make the change,

821
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: and that's when the playbook exchange happened. But like that's

822
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: what it was for me, literally, And so with that,

823
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: I said, there's no way I'm going to try to

824
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: do all of this in four months, I have to

825
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 4: find a way to shorten my learning curve. And so

826
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 4: I'm sitting one day in my meeting room and I'm like,

827
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: what do I know now that can help make this

828
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 4: transition a lot smoother and potentially quit a lot faster.

829
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: And I said, I know offense.

830
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 4: I know intimately and understand the why of what they

831
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: do on offense, whether that's an alignment as a wide receiver,

832
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: is he outside the numbers or is he inside the numbers?

833
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: Is the ball in the middle of the field? Is

834
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 4: it on the right hash, is it on the far hash?

835
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: You know?

836
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: What is the motions and the shifts for what is

837
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 4: the body language when the wide receiver's motioning into the

838
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: closer to.

839
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: The line of scrimmage.

840
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 4: Is his eyes upfield looking like he's trying to scan

841
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 4: the coverage or is his eyes more into the box

842
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 4: where he's trying to identify who's his blocking responsibility is

843
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: So just understanding the nuances of the game I had,

844
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: I was able to leverage that and say, hey, I've

845
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: been in those meetings, I know what that is. I

846
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: know the depths of the quarterback drop is going to

847
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 4: tell me what's the depth of the routes of as

848
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 4: of the wide receivers in the tight ends, and so

849
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: from a timing and anticipation standpoint, that's how I was

850
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 4: able to help shorten that learning curve and be able

851
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 4: to make enough plays to earn that that that spot

852
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: on the roster as a as a as a safety Maddie.

853
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting too that the built how confident

854
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: they are of this safety group was very telling when

855
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: they didn't go out and spend some high draft.

856
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: Pick, didn't you know what I mean, they didn't they

857
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 5: they didn't.

858
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: Go out and sign a bunch of free agents. They

859
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: didn't draft, you know, some guy in the second third round.

860
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: So I think that shows you exactly how confident Sean

861
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: McDermott is and Bobby Babbage is in.

862
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 2: That group, definitely, And I think the answer is they're

863
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: just watching how these players and the guys we've seen

864
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: on this roster, how Cole Bishop has done, how DeMar

865
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: Hamlin has done, and then Derek Forrest with Washington it

866
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: was twenty twenty two that season that he had four interceptions.

867
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: I think you have viable options there and the cream

868
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: is going to rise to the top in terms of

869
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: the guy who earns that other starting job. We got

870
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: to take a break, but when we return, will continue

871
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: to dig into the conversation of what George Wilson was

872
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: like as a player that transitioned. Incredible that somebody can

873
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: do that in the NFL and have as much success

874
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 2: as you did, transitioning from wide receiver to cornerback and

875
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: having what a a an interception that you returned for

876
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: a touchdown in your first first start against Tony Romo

877
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: of all quarterbacks. We're talking about it more next here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, or presented by Kalida Help. This

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Speaker 2: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back here on One Bill's Live,

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00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: Matty glablong side of w IBB sports director Josh Reid

881
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: and Bill's legend George Wilson, who was just telling us

882
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 2: about the story about making the transition from wide receiver

883
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: to cornerback. How does that happen? Does a coach just

884
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: come to you and it's like, hey, man, we think

885
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: you'd get a lot more time on the field if

886
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: you made the transition to cornerback. We see the athleticism

887
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: that you offer us as a team, and we think

888
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: it can be better used on defense.

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00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 3: It was something similar to that book.

890
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 5: Now you know the joke. The joke is if you

891
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 5: can't catch.

892
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah the movie.

893
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: So that was not the case for me, But you're right, Josh,

894
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 4: that typically is the case.

895
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: But for me, that.

896
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: Transition actually started before, at least the conversation started before

897
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 4: I even got here to Buffalo. So the head coach

898
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: at the time was Dick Jeron. He and I were

899
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 4: in Detroit together. He was the defensive coordinator when I

900
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 4: was a wide receiver on their practice squad as a rookie.

901
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 4: And so during my rookie season before I came over

902
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 4: to the Bills, you know, one day at practice, coach

903
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Speaker 4: Giron and the offensive coordinator at that time in Detroit

904
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 4: was named Sherman Lewis.

905
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: They pulled me to a side at practice.

906
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 4: They were like, hey, George, you ever thought about playing

907
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 4: some safety?

908
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, no, sir, I have.

909
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 4: I've played it in college, but I'm a wide receiver now, coach,

910
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: and if my NFL dreams don't come true, I'd want

911
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 4: to look at myself in the mirror and note that

912
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 4: I gave myself that the best opportunity.

913
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Speaker 3: And so they said, okay, that's fine.

914
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: So a couple of weeks later, I got released and

915
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 4: I end up coming to Buffalo. Dreams changed, it does,

916
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: And so less than two years later, coach Giron comes in.

917
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: He's he's the new head coach here.

918
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 4: I'm still a wide receiver on practice squad go through

919
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 4: that entire season, but I was a blue collar guy. Wednesday, Third, Thursday,

920
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 4: and Friday in practice, those were my game days.

921
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 3: I didn't get Sunday.

922
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Speaker 4: So I was trying to make my highlight plays during

923
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Speaker 4: the week on the practice field.

924
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Speaker 3: And so at the end of that season.

925
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 4: They activated me to the roster just to show some

926
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Speaker 4: gratitude for my work ethic throughout the season. I come

927
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Speaker 4: back that following off season in early April, coach comes

928
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Speaker 4: into the locker room, just like what you said, Hey.

929
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Speaker 3: George, come up to my office. Let's let's talk. And so.

930
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 4: For for for us, at that time, we had a

931
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Speaker 4: lot of money invested in the wide receiver locker room

932
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 4: locker wide receiver position. You know, we had Lee Evans,

933
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: we had Peerless Price who we had just just signed back.

934
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 3: We had Josh Reed, your cousin. I still get.

935
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 5: I'm so glad you stuck around like Josh Reed.

936
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, we had Roscoe Parish and then special

937
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: teamer in Sam Aikin, So it was gonna be tough

938
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: for me to really make the team unless somebody got injured.

939
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 4: And so I said, well, coach, just just tell me,

940
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 4: is this a real, genuine opportunity or is this something

941
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 4: that you guys just want to do to try to

942
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 4: get me out of the.

943
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: Way, because I've seen that.

944
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 4: I saw that before in my first three years, where

945
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 4: you know, they bring in a guy that doesn't have

946
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 4: a position. They call him an athlete, they put him

947
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 4: at running back, they put him in safety, they put

948
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 4: him in the slot, and it doesn't work out because

949
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: he's moving all over the place. And so I'm like, hey,

950
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 4: if you tell me this is a real opportunity, I'll

951
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 4: make that change. And he assured me that, and then

952
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 4: he told me that he's like George. I came in

953
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 4: this league as a running back when I was a player,

954
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Speaker 4: and I moved to corner and I ended up playing

955
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 4: a long, productive career. And I think, I see the

956
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 4: same qualities in you. But you gotta want to do this.

957
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 4: And so I went home, I thought about it. I

958
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 4: came back, well, actually, what helped me make that decision

959
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: even more. After I come out of the coach Giron's office,

960
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 4: I go into John Guy's office, who was our director

961
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: of pro personnel at the time. John brings me in door.

962
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: He knows the conversation I just had with them. So

963
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 4: in this pro personnel room, you have these dry erase boards.

964
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 4: It has all these magnets of all the players in

965
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 4: the NFL, divided by years of experience. You get to

966
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 4: year one, two, three, the most names of any year

967
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: because it's you know, the average playing career is about

968
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 4: three and a half at that time. Getting the year four,

969
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 4: it's a fraction of what the year three wow magnets are.

970
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 4: And so John was like, hey, right now you're in

971
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 4: between year three and year four. You're getting this opportunity

972
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: to change positions. I think you need to make the

973
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Speaker 4: most of it.

974
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Speaker 3: And I did.

975
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 4: But just having that, you know, we're talking about communication

976
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 4: and what the expectations are. They laid that out for me,

977
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 4: and that gave me confidence to say, Okay, this is

978
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 4: a genuine opportunity. They're not trying to just move me

979
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 4: out of the way. Let's attack this. I hadn't caught

980
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 4: a pass, let alone a touchdown. I only saw the

981
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 4: field sporadically as a special teamer, but I shown enough

982
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: on special teams that they were like, hey, we got

983
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 4: to find a way to keep this guy around. And

984
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: that's what created the opportunity to transition to defense at

985
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 4: the safety spot.

986
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: You made fifty five starts played in ninety two games

987
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: for the Bills, twelve interceptions, two touchdowns, four hundred and

988
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: twelve total tackles, twenty five passes defense. That is a

989
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: pretty good career for somebody who made a position move

990
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: and was undrafted coming into the NFL. I mean, that's

991
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: something to be proud of, are you?

992
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: I'm very proud.

993
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 4: I mean I grew up working in the tobacco fields

994
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: on my grandfather's farm and come from a small town

995
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 4: where everybody hopes and love for me and support for

996
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 4: me was right there with me my entire time. So

997
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 4: I was not only representing myself and my family, I

998
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 4: was also representing Paduca, Kentucky. And so just with that responsibility,

999
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 4: I knew that I couldn't cut corners, I couldn't cheat

1000
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 4: the process, I couldn't take things for granted, and so

1001
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 4: I just brought my hard hat and my lunch pill

1002
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 4: to work with me each and every day.

1003
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: I enjoyed every.

1004
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 4: Aspect of the process because I just truly believe that

1005
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 4: if you try to sidestep or diminish any step in

1006
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 4: the process, the end result is going to be compromised

1007
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 4: to some degree. And so I just wanted to try

1008
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: to make the most of every day, of every opportunity,

1009
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: because I.

1010
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 3: Knew it wasn't gonna last forever. And I'm so glad

1011
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 3: that I did.

1012
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: I don't have many many regrets from my playing career

1013
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 4: because I tried to approach each and every day the right.

1014
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: Way, how cool, how inspiring, and justin. George Wilson is

1015
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: going to hang out for the next hour, so ladies,

1016
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Speaker 2: he's gonna be on for the entirety of One Bill's Live.

1017
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 2: We got one more hour left. It's our Friday fan

1018
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: mail bags, so we're gonna answer some of your questions.

1019
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: Give us a call here at eighth three, five point

1020
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 2: fifty to take part in the conversation. Next on One

1021
00:50:53,440 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, represented by Collide Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

1022
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calledlida Health.

1023
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: Welcome into our number two of One Bill's Live. Everybody,

1024
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm Mattie glab and I'm joined by w IVB TV

1025
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: sports director Josh Red and Bill's legend George Wilson. We

1026
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: spent the first hour talking about the roster and hopes

1027
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: that we have for twenty twenty five, some position battles

1028
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: we're looking forward to watching, and then also dived into

1029
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: your career and what it was like to make the

1030
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 2: transition from wide receiver to cornerback. And now in our

1031
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: number two, we've got some questions from listeners that we're

1032
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: going to tackle. So let's get into our Friday fan

1033
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: mail bag. It's brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems,

1034
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. And

1035
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 2: first we'll go with Jack. Jack says there's a lot

1036
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: of bodies on the defensive line along with a lot

1037
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: of questions. What can we really expect from the rotation

1038
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: at defensive tackle and defensive end in twenty twenty five.

1039
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: I think Javon Solomon is a dark horse to breakout,

1040
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 2: but are we still waiting on aj Epanessa and Greg

1041
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: Russo to come through as well as Ed Oliver to

1042
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: live up to being drafted ninth overall. Could a post

1043
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: June first edition be coming. All right, let's look at

1044
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: this position group and oh, we've got it on MSGTV

1045
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: if you're watching right now, Defensive tackles and defensive ends

1046
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: on the roster, Josh, I'll start with you first. There

1047
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: were a few questions in there, Which one do you

1048
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: want to tackle? As it relates to the defensive line

1049
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: as a.

1050
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: Whole, I'm gonna you know, like you said, if you're

1051
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: watching it on TV right now, you see Michael Hoyt's

1052
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: name highlighted right there and red.

1053
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 5: Of course he's got he's gonna start the season with

1054
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: the suspension.

1055
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: But when they signed him, I thought that was a

1056
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: pretty interesting player to add to that defensive rotation. I

1057
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: think he does a lot of things really well, and

1058
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: he's super athletic. I think he's going to be a

1059
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: contributor when he does eventually kind of get into the mix.

1060
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 5: And you know, when you're reading that question, you know.

1061
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes it gets lost in translation when it's in words

1062
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: and not spoken, and it's like, I mean, you're saying

1063
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: that Greg Russo hasn't played well at all.

1064
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 5: I mean, because that's kind of the way that reads

1065
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 5: the way.

1066
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: Look, I think Greg Russau has been good, and I

1067
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: think we've seen him develop every single year. Look, I

1068
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: get it, he was a first round pick, so the

1069
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: expectations are high.

1070
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 5: Greg Russou is a really good player. There are about

1071
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 5: twenty eight teams in the.

1072
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 1: NFL that would love to have Greg Russou as a defensive.

1073
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 5: End, and that list might be too short. To be

1074
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 5: honest with you, greg Usseau is a very good pass rusher. Look,

1075
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 5: and I get it. I know that everybody's waiting for

1076
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 5: that fifteen SAX season.

1077
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: We might not get there, but I also think that

1078
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: he has been really good and he's not the problem.

1079
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 5: I never have looked at this defense and thought, well,

1080
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 5: Greg Russou is the problem.

1081
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: Now look Ed Oliver top ten draft pick. Has he

1082
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: lived up to the expectations.

1083
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

1084
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: That's just me personally. But there are times when Ed

1085
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: Oliver can take over a game. I've seen it, in

1086
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: particular on Thanksgivings. That guy shows up on Thanks We

1087
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: gotta find a way to let him believe the Thanksgivings

1088
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: every Sunday, because I'm telling you, there are games when

1089
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver comes out and it's just like, holy smokes,

1090
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy's one of the elite defensive tackles

1091
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You wish you could see it a

1092
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: little more consistent consistently.

1093
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 5: Jawan Solomon is an interesting name.

1094
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: I know his name pops up a lot. It's gonna

1095
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: be tough for him to find his way into this loaded,

1096
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: deep defensive line group. But he's a second year guy.

1097
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: They do have a draft pick kind of attached to him,

1098
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: so they have some equity invested there. It's it's that

1099
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: that is a deep defensive line group.

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00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 4: It is, and like you said, I think the pressure

1101
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 4: is on it all over the most. But I also

1102
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 4: think that with the draft picks we made with bringing

1103
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 4: in t J. Sanders and Dion Walker, made those selections

1104
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 4: to come in and push him, challenge him, but also

1105
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 4: not have to put him in a position where he

1106
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 4: has to play, you know, sixty seventy snaps in order

1107
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 4: to get be productive. And so I think if we

1108
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 4: can keep them fresher, that he can come out and

1109
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 4: have those impactful game breaking plays, more of those.

1110
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: But I think as we move.

1111
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 4: Closer to a contract year, you always see guys elevating

1112
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 4: their play. They are more intentional with their with their

1113
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 4: training and going into that and so as he gets

1114
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 4: closer to that, to that window, I think we're going

1115
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 4: to see him step up to do more, be more

1116
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 4: of a leader, be more of an impact player, play

1117
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: in and play out, not just when the quarterbacks dropping back,

1118
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 4: but getting those TFLs and playing on the other side

1119
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 4: of the.

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00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 3: Line of screamage.

1121
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: At Oliver went from nine and a half sacks in

1122
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three to just three in twenty twenty four,

1123
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: and maybe a body like a Dion Walker is the

1124
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: answer for Ed Oliver on the inside we've seen in

1125
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: his career thus far, when he's paired next to a

1126
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: bigger defensive tackle who can kind of be that space

1127
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: eater and help take on some of those double teams

1128
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: that freeze up at Oliver to do what he does best,

1129
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: which is go rush to the passer. And then they

1130
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 2: get a guy like TJ. Sanders who can also do that.

1131
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see how those two rotate

1132
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: or when they line up next to each other on

1133
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: the interior. As in terms of the last question, could

1134
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: a post June first edition becoming Maybe, but I think

1135
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: they're gonna want to see what they have first through

1136
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp and training camp to see do we

1137
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 2: have everything we need at these two position groups. And

1138
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 2: if not, sure, Brandon bean is going to do his

1139
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: job and look elsewhere. But right now you have nine

1140
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: defensive tackles, you have eight edge rushers. Those are two

1141
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: stacked position groups. And they saw a lot of overhaul

1142
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: and free agency and in the draft you saw three

1143
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: new defensive linemen come to this team in free agency

1144
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: and Michael Hoyt, Larry Oginjobi and Joey Bosa and then

1145
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: multiple faces three new guys in the draft and TJ. Sanders,

1146
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: Landon Jackson, and Dian Walker. For now, I think they're

1147
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: set until they figure out is this what we want

1148
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: out of this position group?

1149
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? I agree.

1150
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: Next question is from Andrew sticking with the defensive line,

1151
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: Andrew says, depending on how Joey Bosa heals, if he's

1152
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: not ready to go by training camp, would you take

1153
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: a chance on a guy like Jdavian Clowney. I know

1154
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,959
Speaker 2: he wouldn't cost much to bring in, but it would

1155
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: add the extra depth and safety.

1156
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 3: No.

1157
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: Next question, Yeah, I look, there are so many pieces

1158
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: of this puzzle that you need to figure out.

1159
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 5: To me, Joey.

1160
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: Bosa, get him healthy for November and December like that.

1161
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean, look, this team's winning thirteen games with Joey

1162
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: Bosa on the field or not on the field.

1163
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: They just are.

1164
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 5: Joey Bosa is going to be important.

1165
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: And if he's healthy in December, I know they want

1166
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: to start the season with him, of course, but that's

1167
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: the long play right there. That's the guy you need

1168
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: when you're going against the Chiefs in the second round

1169
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, in the divisional round of the AFC

1170
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: Championship game, or you're facing the Bengals and Joe Burrow

1171
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: and you want to be able to get that sack

1172
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: on third and long at Jadavian Clowney. He doesn't at

1173
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: this point in his career.

1174
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 5: He doesn't do a whole lot.

1175
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: For me.

1176
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: I'd rather see them give Landon Jackson those extra snaps

1177
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: and see what that young guy can do, because I

1178
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: know he's a guy as a fellow Arkansas guy, somebody

1179
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: that you watch and I think you liked him in college.

1180
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: I loved him.

1181
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 4: I mean, he has a high mo he's physical, he's athletic,

1182
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: he's fast, and I don't think Clowney would be the

1183
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 4: good a good addition. So I'm agreeing with you, Josh,

1184
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 4: like I feel like like you said. Also, the Bolsa

1185
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 4: signing was more about December January playoff football games where

1186
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 4: it's winter or go home. And so if he needs

1187
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 4: a little bit more time to get healthy and may

1188
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 4: miss some of the camp or the start of the season,

1189
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 4: it's it's okay. We have enough depth and enough experience

1190
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 4: there at the at the defensive front to buy some

1191
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 4: time for him to be able to fully heal because

1192
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 4: you don't want to rush him back and then he

1193
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 4: has a setback and now you may miss even more time.

1194
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: So I think we're we're perfectly fine where we are.

1195
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 4: We have enough talent at the position to we can

1196
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 4: figure it. We can figure it out.

1197
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: For TJ. Sanders and Landon Jackson. I noticed a few

1198
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: reps they took at OTA's TJ. Sanders batted down a

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00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: pass at the line of scrimmage, and land and jack

1200
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: And had some really good reps against offensive linemen. What

1201
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: did you notice about some of the younger defensive linemen

1202
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: and OTAs.

1203
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: Can I can't see the top of their helmet. I

1204
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: can tell you that, I mean you talk about lang.

1205
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: They added some I think Brandon and one of his

1206
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: press conferences joked that he could take some of these

1207
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: guys down to the y and play basketball and they

1208
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't lose.

1209
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 5: And I'm telling you they are.

1210
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: They are tall, and they are long along the defensive line.

1211
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: I really have liked what I've seen so far. I

1212
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: had a chance to back to land and Jackson little bit.

1213
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: I had a chance to talk to him at the

1214
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: at the scouting combine in Indianapolis.

1215
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: The Bills are going to draft line.

1216
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 5: I really did, I really did.

1217
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: I really thought that because every question he got asked

1218
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: it sounded like he was reading from the Bills manuscript

1219
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: of this is how we answer questions. I mean, everything

1220
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: that he said was just spot on him, like, well,

1221
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: he won't need a lot of media training because he's

1222
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: saying everything the Bills would be saying right now.

1223
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 5: And I think he's going to be I think he's

1224
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 5: going to be a great fit.

1225
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: I think I always reserve some judgment when it comes

1226
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: to the defense and offensive line until we get to

1227
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: training camp and they get pads on, then they start hitting.

1228
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: You know, it's everybody looks good in shorts and jerseys.

1229
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, that's exactly right.

1230
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: So I think that, you know, it's kind of hard

1231
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: for me to judge, you know, watching them in helmets

1232
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: and shorts, like you said, when they get down to

1233
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher and we get some pads and they

1234
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: start popping a little bit, then we'll find out, and

1235
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: you find out usually pretty quickly that which guys are

1236
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: meant for it, built for it day one, and which

1237
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: guys may need a little bit more time.

1238
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phone lines. Aaron from Oregon has

1239
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: a question for us. Aaron, you're on with us now,

1240
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: how you doing?

1241
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm doing great, Georgia. I really respect what you

1242
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 6: did for the Bills, and I love an underdog like

1243
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 6: you and Fred Jackson and Stevie Johnson who who kind

1244
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 6: of put in the hard work and then did a

1245
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 6: lot for our team. So thank you for that.

1246
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1247
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I kind of on the topic of position switching,

1248
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 6: I was wondering what you guys thought about maybe moving

1249
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 6: to Davis over to safety, if you know, if nobody

1250
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 6: kind of pops at camp or whatever and we're looking

1251
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 6: for a solution, if you guys think that maybe Trey

1252
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 6: would be a good free safety or you know, possible

1253
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 6: tandem with Wrap and then also just wanted to see

1254
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 6: what George thinks about Travis hunter n if he thinks

1255
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 6: he can do both offense and defense.

1256
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: Great question, great question.

1257
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: I love that.

1258
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 5: I'm actually a little jealous.

1259
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: I didn't think about that.

1260
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's such a good question.

1261
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: Okay, let's start with that one.

1262
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 4: Well do I don't think that he can be a

1263
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 4: full time two way player just the physical demands of it.

1264
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 4: I don't think that the way the game is played

1265
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 4: now that you can play, you know, sixty five plays

1266
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 4: on offense and then turn around and play seventy five

1267
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 4: plays on defense, over time, your your body's gonna wear

1268
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 4: down just from the the gruelness of the game and

1269
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 4: the physicality of the game. And so I don't think that, uh,

1270
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 4: they would they would try to have him, you know,

1271
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 4: play both sides.

1272
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 3: It looks like right.

1273
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 4: Now they're they're working in more as a wide receiver.

1274
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 4: But I do think, uh, he's a great athlete. I

1275
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 4: think there are some spot duty opportunities depending on if

1276
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 4: there's matchups or if there's a hell Mary jump ball

1277
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 4: type of situation. I think he's a situational player for that.

1278
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 4: I personally would probably have put him at at dB

1279
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 4: rather than wide receiver, just because of his his raw

1280
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 4: athletic ability, his his stature in size to match up

1281
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 4: with the taller, longer wide receivers that that you know,

1282
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 4: make up most of the game today. But I see

1283
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 4: a lot of upside for the young man. He has

1284
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 4: a young quarterback to grow with, uh, with cam Ward

1285
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 4: down there in Nashville, So I really feel like, uh,

1286
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 4: they're they're gonna, excuse me, not Nashville, but in Jackson

1287
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 4: with with Trevor Lawrence. I really feel like they're gonna

1288
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 4: they're gonna make some good strides down there in do ball.

1289
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 4: There are some high hopes for him to really be

1290
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 4: able to step up and be a game changer and

1291
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: a game breker for them, which is something that they've

1292
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 4: missed on the offensive side of the ball for a

1293
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 4: long time, which I think that's why they're they're kind

1294
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 4: of putting more of an infhasis on the offensive side

1295
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 4: for him so far.

1296
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: I grew up as a Cleveland Browns fan, and when

1297
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: the Browns passed on him, I thought, cement him.

1298
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:26,919
Speaker 5: He's gonna be in the Hall of Fame.

1299
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna be one of the greatest players of all time.

1300
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 5: He's gonna be a Hall of Fame on offense and defense.

1301
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: But I like your point about being a little surprised

1302
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: that they didn't start him on defense, because to me,

1303
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: you can sprinkle in offense a little easier than you

1304
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: can sprinkle in defense. To me, you know, maybe you

1305
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: have a package of ten twelve plays going into a

1306
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: game that you go, Okay, this is where we can

1307
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: use them on offense. We'll start them on defense. Here's

1308
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: a play here, play there situationally. So I don't know

1309
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: that you can do that the other way around.

1310
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 4: But I think they're they're in a position where they're

1311
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 4: trying to make a decision on the future of their

1312
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 4: French face, of their FRANCHISEE.

1313
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: With with with with.

1314
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 4: Trevor, with Trevor Lawrence, with his future being in question,

1315
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 4: like is he the guy that's gonna get us to

1316
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 4: the promised Land? Is he's gonna get us to this

1317
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 4: over this hump and into this new era of Jaguar football?

1318
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 4: And so I think the organization is like, hey, let's

1319
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 4: try to give Trevor as many weapons as we can

1320
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 4: to see if he can be successful.

1321
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 3: And I think that played a.

1322
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 4: Huge role in why they may have tried to start

1323
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 4: them on offense as opposed to defense, because, like you said,

1324
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 4: you can be a full time starter on defense, and

1325
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 4: you can have a certain package of plays for them

1326
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 4: on third down, in red zone or things of that nature,

1327
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 4: to where you know, typically when you do a guy

1328
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 4: like that to use this some type of a gadget

1329
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 4: play or they're bringing them in to try to get

1330
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 4: the ball to him, so it doesn't necessarily surprise the defense,

1331
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 4: but it's definitely a more workable situation where he can

1332
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 4: be on defense primarily and then supplement the offense when

1333
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 4: they need him. But he's not going to be able

1334
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 4: to do that as a wide receiver and then think

1335
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 4: that you're gonna.

1336
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 3: Just come in the game and then go back.

1337
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, go, you know they get banged up at corner,

1338
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 4: Hey we need you to come over here. No, you're

1339
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 4: not gonna be able to transition as smoothly as he

1340
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,479
Speaker 4: was able to do in Colorado, not in this level

1341
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 4: the skill set, at the at the skill position, it's

1342
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 4: too good to have that expectation.

1343
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: However it works out. I'm so excited to watch him

1344
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 2: at the NFL level because he was regardless of what side.

1345
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: He was great and it was so fun to watch him.

1346
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 3: It was watch TV, no doubt.

1347
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 5: It was much watch how it.

1348
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: Looks in the NFL with Trevor Lawrence as his quarterback.

1349
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: And the second part of Aaron's question was about Tredevious

1350
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: White and if he could possibly move over to safety

1351
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 2: if they feel like they need another body to be

1352
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: in this mix of the safety competition. Now, Tredevius White

1353
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: is entering his nine the NFL season, so he has

1354
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: not eight years under his belt playing at cornerback, as

1355
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: well as his time at LSU where he was a

1356
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 2: very productive cornerback there as well. His best season in

1357
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: Buffalo came in twenty nineteen when he had six interceptions

1358
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: in all pro season. For White, do you guys believe

1359
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 2: he can make a transition like this at this point

1360
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: in his career.

1361
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 4: I think he could, but I think before that conversation's

1362
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 4: even had, they want to see how this corner position

1363
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 4: battle plays out. You know, if the young guys win

1364
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 4: it outright, and you know, maybe some guys get banged

1365
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 4: up at safety or maybe they're not liking the level

1366
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 4: of production, then you may try him out and see

1367
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 4: how that goes. He's always been a physical player, doesn't

1368
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 4: mind sticking his nose in there to make those tackles,

1369
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 4: and so that's something that if you have that in

1370
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 4: your tool kid, you know you can easily make that

1371
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 4: transition to safety. But I think that's more of a

1372
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 4: wait and see type of situation as opposed to saying, hey,

1373
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,959
Speaker 4: let's let's try him out here when you already got

1374
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 4: three or four guys that that are our quality players

1375
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 4: who can who can fulfill that role you know already.

1376
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: I just think that at this time in his career

1377
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: there'd be a tough transition I mean having I mean,

1378
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, you'd have to go back to college.

1379
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: And I doubt, highly doubt that he did any of

1380
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: that at LSU, maybe high school. I have no idea

1381
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 1: that he's ever even played safety ever. I mean to me,

1382
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: that's I mean, you could speak on it obviously more

1383
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: than I could.

1384
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 5: You know, it's a way too apples and oranges.

1385
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a way to extend.

1386
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 5: If you can extend it, sure you do it.

1387
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: But man, that's a it's a different beast when you

1388
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: think of what the Bills ask of their safeties, at

1389
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: least he has all the knowledge, you know that he

1390
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: knows everything that Sean wants to do, so he does

1391
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 1: have that side of the mental side of things. He'd

1392
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,839
Speaker 1: be it should be an easier transition.

1393
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1394
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 4: I mean when I was playing, you know, Troy Vincent

1395
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 4: was here with me, and he was an All Pro

1396
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl corner in Philadelphia and here in Buffalo. But

1397
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 4: then as he got here in Buffalo, we had a

1398
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 4: young guy by the name of Nate Clements who was

1399
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 4: a good corner as well, and then another young guy

1400
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 4: in Terence McGee, who was another good young corner too.

1401
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 4: So you know, they had Troy moved from corner to

1402
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 4: safety and it helped to extend his career a few

1403
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 4: more years. More recently, you look at a guy like

1404
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 4: Kareem Jackson who was a corner in Houston. Before he

1405
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 4: left they moved him to safety. He ends up going

1406
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 4: to Denver being a safety there as well. And so

1407
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 4: in the right situations, you can buy another two three

1408
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 4: years by moving a guy from corner to safety. And

1409
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 4: it really all boils down to can their body handle

1410
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 4: the rigor workload that comes with being at a safety

1411
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 4: position as opposed on the outside as a corner.

1412
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: Our next question is from Clint a unique one. Would

1413
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 2: it be a good idea to have a punter on

1414
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: the roster that had played quarterback in high school or

1415
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 2: a bit in college like a Riley Dixon did in

1416
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 2: high school? And how he beat the Bills on a

1417
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 2: fake last year that happened, Riley Dixon a part of

1418
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: the broncos of fake punt that turned into a successful

1419
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: pass to Marvin Mims Junior. That's that's in the weeds

1420
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 2: on a question of trying to find a punter who's

1421
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: who's got the ability to play the quarterback position so

1422
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,839
Speaker 2: you can have a trick play here on special teams.

1423
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

1424
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 5: I think Bills fans are a little spoiled.

1425
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: That's if this is what we're talking about and we're

1426
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: talking about grinding the roster down to we need to

1427
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: add a punter that can throw the ball, like there

1428
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: aren't a lot of issues on this ros roster. Also,

1429
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: and also this statement that it's the end of May,

1430
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: right it is we're searching for It's like maybe a

1431
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: punter that can throw the ball. I'll say this, you know,

1432
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: and I know you always joke about you know, kickers

1433
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: and punters high athletic do you actually have to be?

1434
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: I can promise you these guys have the enough ability

1435
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: athletically that they can throw a pass. I promise you

1436
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: they can throw the ball twenty yards down the field.

1437
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that Brandon's sitting up late at night

1438
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 1: thinking what this roster.

1439
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 3: Is missing is a throwing punter?

1440
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 5: Right?

1441
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 3: Oh?

1442
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, it's the roster is in good shape.

1443
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 3: I guess it is.

1444
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 4: But when it comes to gadgets and fake fake punts

1445
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 4: and things of that nature, I think there is benefit

1446
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 4: to that. But you're not going out trying to scout

1447
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 4: guys to figure out can they throw the ball?

1448
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 3: You want to know is the is the leg and

1449
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 3: the foot good? Yeah? Can I get it with the ball?

1450
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 3: Can you get it inside the tin? Can you?

1451
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 4: Can you directionally punt well? So we can win the

1452
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 4: field position battle?

1453
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 3: You know?

1454
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 4: But I think there is benefit to having punters and

1455
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 4: kickers who do who are athletic and can do more

1456
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 4: than just kick the ball. When I was here, we

1457
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 4: had Brian Mormon, who was a fast guy. He could run,

1458
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 4: so that allowed Bobby Apros, special teams coordinator to incorporate

1459
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 4: his speed in some of the fakes that he came

1460
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 4: up with. And when you got a passing punter, you

1461
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 4: can draw the defense up and throw it over the

1462
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 4: top of their heads from time to time. But that's

1463
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 4: not something that you're really spending a lot of time

1464
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 4: in the meeting room trying to evaluate talent to find it.

1465
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the newest thing with special teams this year for

1466
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 2: Buffalo is the fact that they have a new special

1467
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: teams coordinator and Chris Tabor, and maybe we'll see a

1468
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: little bit of trickery from Tabor in games. I think

1469
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 2: that's one thing that all Bills fans are looking forward

1470
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 2: to seeing, is how what his take is on about

1471
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: all these new rules surrounding special teams and how the

1472
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: game is played. And Taber didn't coach last year, so

1473
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: he has a different vantage point than everybody else. He

1474
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: got to watch last season from the special teams perspective

1475
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: unfold as he was watching games, So I'm eager to

1476
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 2: see what his stamp on that phase of the game

1477
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 2: looks like in Buffalo. Our last question is from Joey.

1478
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: Joey says, when is Tyrell Shavers going to get his shot?

1479
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: He looked pretty good on that screen pass last season

1480
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: and then disappeared. I know it's a loaded room, but

1481
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: I think he's been in the system since before Joe

1482
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: Brady and can help with his speed and hands. Now,

1483
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: Joe Brady was the quarterbacks coach for Buffalo before he

1484
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: turned into the offensive coordinator, So Joe Brady has been

1485
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: here multiple years. Tyrrel Shavers undrafted picked him up in

1486
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, has been in the system for a

1487
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 2: few years and is a wide receiver who's always shrined

1488
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: in the offseason. He's somebody who's had some impressive catches

1489
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: throughout training camp practices and in preseason games. Josh, do

1490
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 2: you believe he gets a shot this year to compete

1491
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 2: with the likes of some new faces that we've added

1492
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: to this wide receivers room as well.

1493
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 5: He's gonna get a shot.

1494
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know this coaching staff, if you're on

1495
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: the right, you're gonna get a shot. It's just a

1496
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: matter of you know, him finding a way to kind

1497
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: of sneak into that group that we all kind of

1498
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 1: consider to be the core group of wide receivers. He

1499
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 1: does have a different kind of skill set with some

1500
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: size there that maybe you don't see with some of

1501
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 1: the other receivers.

1502
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 5: But it's it's gonna be tough.

1503
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 1: As we watch the little on TV here, watching the

1504
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: little screen pass that he takes to the house for

1505
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and look, yeah, I mean you look at

1506
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: that speed, and you look at the size and everything,

1507
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: but six' four and they don't have a lot of

1508
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 1: six fours walking around this this.

1509
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 5: BUILDING i just it's gonna be, tough it really.

1510
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: Is AND i think he's probably lands back on the practice.

1511
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 5: SQUAD i just it's it's really tough because they've got

1512
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 5: a lot of depth at wide.

1513
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 4: Receiver gig boils down to numbers and who can get the.

1514
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 4: Opportunities you, know it's not you can only put as

1515
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 4: many as. Four you, know we're not putting more than

1516
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 4: four on the field at any given.

1517
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 3: Time so you have to be in that top.

1518
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 4: Four and you, know due to lack of, rips lack

1519
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 4: of numbers is going to be a huge challenge for

1520
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 4: him to find.

1521
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: A way to break through the top tier that core

1522
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 3: group of wild.

1523
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 1: ELSE i will say, this if there's an injury or

1524
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: a few injuries and he's forced into playing, TIME i

1525
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: think they're comfortable with that.

1526
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 2: Totally, yeah played in three games in twenty twenty, four

1527
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: had that one catch for sixty nine yards and a.

1528
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: Touchdown so he's shown that he understands the system and

1529
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 2: he has flashed at times throughout. Practices but it does

1530
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: come down to that numbers, game and if you're one

1531
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: of the last bodies in at a position, group that

1532
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: means you better be able to play on special teams

1533
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: and you better know what you're doing on special. Teams

1534
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 2: so that comes into the mix and is really important as.

1535
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 2: Well we got to take a, break but when we,

1536
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,479
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Speaker 2: Right Matti glab alongside OF wivbtv sports Director Josh red

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01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 2: And bill's Legend George, wilson been having a great conversation

1549
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: with you guys so far. Today so thanks for taking

1550
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: part in A friday. Show as we kick off the,

1551
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 2: Weekend we're gonna continue on with a phone call as

1552
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 2: we go To dennis From North, carolina who's on with?

1553
01:16:59,560 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 3: Us?

1554
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: Now, Hey, dennis how you? Doing?

1555
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 8: Maddie, hey, guys how y'all doing?

1556
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 6: Today we're doing?

1557
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: Great how are you?

1558
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 8: You i'm done, good on my way. Home, Okay So

1559
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 8: i'm From.

1560
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 3: Tennessee.

1561
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 8: Uh And, george when you play At, arkansas do you

1562
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 8: know what YOU'RE i mean what you're?

1563
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: Well, Yeah?

1564
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 8: Arkansas and who defended you Against? Tennessee do you recall

1565
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 8: that's a good.

1566
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 3: Question what was the last part of the.

1567
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: Question who went against you At? Tennessee?

1568
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 3: Oh At? Tennessee?

1569
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 4: OKAY i was At arkansas from ninety nine to, three

1570
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 4: and So houston was my was my? COACH i mean

1571
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 4: we had some, great great. Battles were you talking about the,

1572
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 4: volunteers The Tennessee. Volunteers, okay, yeah So Jason, Whitton Jason

1573
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 4: whitton was was was there WHEN i was. Playing he

1574
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 4: actually caught the game winning. Touchdown we've had a six

1575
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 4: overtime battle with them And Niland stadium down, there and

1576
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 4: he caught the game winning.

1577
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 3: Touchdown, yeah too many.

1578
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 4: Times so they were they were a juggernaut back back.

1579
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 4: Then and you, know he went on to A hall

1580
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 4: Of fame, career but had some great times At.

1581
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 3: ARKANSAS i mean the wild remember.

1582
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,879
Speaker 4: The wildcat when it came, Out, well The wildcat actually

1583
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 4: started when WHEN i was At. Arkansas the year AFTER

1584
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 4: i left was when McFadden And Felix jones And Peyton

1585
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 4: hillis all made, it you, know nationally. Known but we

1586
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 4: started That wildcat WHEN i was WHEN i was a

1587
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 4: junior and senior at The university Of. Arkansas so that's

1588
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 4: something That i've always admired and just been on the

1589
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:49,799
Speaker 4: frontier of. That but you, know going Into Neeland stadium

1590
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 4: one hundred and six plus thousand, people, yeah, yeah it's

1591
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 4: something crazy and you hear all these fans screaming and

1592
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 4: Singing Rocky top this And rocky.

1593
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 3: That you just ready to get out.

1594
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: Of there all the, Orange, dennis do you have anything

1595
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 2: else for?

1596
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 8: Us? Yeah, yeah okay on the safety, side who did

1597
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 8: we have that is comparable to you on how you?

1598
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 8: Played and do you also think that we can go

1599
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 8: get Like Dj mosley for a linebacker Because i'm really

1600
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 8: really confident in our defense so, far but the, LINEBACKERS

1601
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 8: i think we need that star player Like Brandon bean talked.

1602
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 8: About all, right.

1603
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 2: Thanks for the, Call. Dennis so first question there was

1604
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: who would you compare yourself to as as a safety

1605
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 2: on the. ROSTER i.

1606
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,440
Speaker 4: WON'T i don't like necessarily making those type of, comparisons

1607
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 4: BUT i see a little bit of myself in each of.

1608
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 4: Them you, know you got a guy like Like damar

1609
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 4: who who's, long was, Athletic he plays well in the

1610
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 4: middle of the, field he comes down and, talk tackles

1611
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 4: well in the in the.

1612
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 3: Box.

1613
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 4: Uh you got a guy like Like bishop who's, young

1614
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 4: had set back from, injury comes, back earns his way

1615
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 4: onto the field and it's putting himselves in a position

1616
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 4: to earn earn more. Reps and so as you just

1617
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 4: look at these, guys they have a lot of good,

1618
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 4: qualities not in comparison to, me but just being, good

1619
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 4: good people off the, field but being, solid smart football

1620
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 4: players on the. Field SO i like what we have

1621
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 4: AND i don't want to diminish what they're doing and

1622
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 4: making names for themselves by comparing them to.

1623
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 7: Me.

1624
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 2: Though how you watch the game now and how the

1625
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 2: game has, changed do you see any differences with just

1626
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 2: the way that safeties play the game in TODAY'S nfl

1627
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 2: versus when you were, Playing, well, yeah.

1628
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 3: You have to be more even more.

1629
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 4: Patient the quarterbacks are so, good they're so elite that

1630
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 4: if you're out a position by one, step they can

1631
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 4: get the ball in for a big play or first

1632
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 4: down on and so you have to study even. More

1633
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 4: you have to understand the situations and not give up

1634
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 4: the big, play force them to make the next play

1635
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 4: and not give up that big play where they were

1636
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 4: instead of having to march down the field ten, twelve

1637
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 4: fourteen to fifteen snaps each. Drive and so that's the.

1638
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 4: Key it's being in the right, spot understanding how the

1639
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 4: offense is trying to manipulate, you and to see if

1640
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 4: you call it putting some cheese.

1641
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 3: In front of the, reck get to make the rec

1642
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 3: bite the, cheese.

1643
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 4: Throw it over the top of, them and you just

1644
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 4: have to be disciplined with your, alignment with your assignment

1645
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 4: and really understanding the situation and what they're trying to

1646
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 4: do to manipulate.

1647
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 2: You And, Josh i'll let you take the second part

1648
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: of the question was about linebackers potentially going after a

1649
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: player LIKE. Cj moseley compared to what's on the. Roster

1650
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 2: how do you look at the linebacker position group With

1651
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 2: Terrell bernard And Matt malono And Dooran.

1652
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:58,600
Speaker 1: Williams, yeah and they got a young guy Innati, ulifosio

1653
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,560
Speaker 1: and they've got bare inspector who's obviously struggled.

1654
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 5: With, injuries you, know since he landed here In.

1655
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo BUT i, mean you, Know Matt, MILANO i mean

1656
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: this Line Joey, andrees this linebacker group is really deep

1657
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: and really, talented especially in the top, two actually top three.

1658
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: Spots when you're talking about you, Know Terrell, Bernard Matt,

1659
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 1: milano And Dorian, williams there's no. ROOM i Just i'm.

1660
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: Good i'm good with this linebacker. Group in, FACT i

1661
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: would Say Dorian williams could start on twenty five teams

1662
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: in THE nfl and he's gonna be your number one backup.

1663
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: LINEBACKER i, mean, Yeah Matt milano obviously has got some

1664
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: stuff to prove that he can stay, healthy that he

1665
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: can be on the, field because if he can prove

1666
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: that he can do that and he can get back

1667
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: to what he was a couple of years, ago even

1668
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: if it's ninety percent of that, GUY i, mean he

1669
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: was one of the best linebackers in THE nfl a

1670
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: couple of years.

1671
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 5: Ago And Terrell bernard has just been.

1672
01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: SENSATIONAL i mean he he took over For Tremaine admins

1673
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 1: When tremaine left via free, agency and there are a

1674
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: lot of questions And cly had him, myself And i'm

1675
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: THINKING i will.

1676
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 5: SEE i don't know is the other. Size he's just a.

1677
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: Playmaker AND i mean and that that has a little

1678
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: bit to do with the way the games. Change the

1679
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 1: thumpers aren't really the linebackers. Anymore you've probably seen.

1680
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 2: How to cover the field.

1681
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 5: Right coverage is so.

1682
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 4: Important, yeah when just when you you, know gave your

1683
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 4: initial response ABOUT. Cj, Moseley WHEN i hear that, NAME

1684
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 4: i just HEAR i see a first second down. Guy

1685
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 4: when we're you, know on the, bills we're gonna be

1686
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 4: playing with the lead a lot of, times we're gonna

1687
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 4: be scoring a lot of points moving the, change so

1688
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 4: that's gonna force our opponents to have to drop back

1689
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 4: and throw the. Ball so we're gonna need, young, athletic fast.

1690
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 4: Guys but nardists been able to do. That he makes

1691
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 4: plays not only in the running game but in the passing,

1692
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 4: game helping to control that middle of the.

1693
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 3: Field and SO i, LIKE i.

1694
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 4: Really like what we have in our linebacker group right,

1695
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 4: Now SO i don't think we need to go outside

1696
01:23:58,520 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 4: and bring in a guy.

1697
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 2: Like, mosley RIGHT i definitely agree, To and to the

1698
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: point of it being a deep linebacker, ROOM i think

1699
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: they'll even find ways to Get Dorin williams on the

1700
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: field and in third linebacker in linebacker packages where you

1701
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: see three linebackers on the, field and maybe even some

1702
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 2: other packages that they're in on, defense because he's so

1703
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 2: good and proved it last year leading the team in.

1704
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 2: Tackles he's also a really fast linebacker who can drop

1705
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 2: into coverage and is speedy, Too so that's kind of

1706
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 2: how we view the linebacker position group here with The.

1707
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 2: Bills but moving on to something, ELSE i wanted to

1708
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 2: make sure we cover this before the show is. Over

1709
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 2: it's the farewell season at High Mark. Stadium they open

1710
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 2: their doors in nineteen seventy. Three have had more than

1711
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 2: fifty incredible seasons over at High Mark. Stadium soon to

1712
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: be the old High Mark stadium because across the, street

1713
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 2: new High Mark stadium is going. Up AND i got

1714
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 2: to ask you during your playing years here In, buffalo

1715
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 2: do you have a f game most memorable game At Highmark? Stadium?

1716
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah for, me it would definitely be twenty eleven

1717
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 4: when we ended the streak against The. PATRIOTS i mean

1718
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 4: we had like four or five turnovers off Of tom

1719
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 4: was able to withstand them trying to come back at the.

1720
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 4: END i, mean the stadium did not empty out after the.

1721
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 4: GAME i mean the fans wanted to hang around and

1722
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 4: relish in. It you, know fans were hanging out in

1723
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 4: the parking. Lot the tailgaters started tailgating, again you, know

1724
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 4: like it was a true. Celebration there, was you, know

1725
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 4: vibrant atmosphere in the community all all week and it

1726
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,799
Speaker 4: was just a great. DAY i, mean it just felt

1727
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 4: good to finally get over that hump because The patriots

1728
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 4: And Tom brady were the standard. Barriers but that, day

1729
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 4: really that entire. Week we had a great week of.

1730
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 4: Preparation we went out and executed our game. Plan the

1731
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 4: defense played well enough to. Win you, know they were

1732
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 4: going to move the ball down the, field but we

1733
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 4: didn't give up all those. Points ryan and the, offense you, know,

1734
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 4: fitsmagic and the offense moved the ball down the field

1735
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 4: consistently put us in a position for For lyndale to

1736
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 4: kick it through As tom, expired and it was just a, great,

1737
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 4: great great.

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01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 2: Memory Tom brady looks so young in that video. Clip

1739
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: oh my, gosh you're watching AS sgtv right. Now holy,

1740
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 2: moly that that had to be such a fun, day,

1741
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,759
Speaker 2: because you, know playing for a team during a, drought

1742
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 2: there's there's definitely some low points in those, seasons but

1743
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 2: there's really high points where you do get over humps

1744
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 2: that have existed for so. Long and to break something

1745
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,839
Speaker 2: like that and beat a team that Had Tom brady

1746
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: on it is something to. Remember it.

1747
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 4: WAS i, mean they were literally dominant in THE, nfl

1748
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 4: let alone the, division and so to be able to

1749
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 4: get over that hump was was monumental for, us and

1750
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 4: it propelled us throughout the guests that rest of that.

1751
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 4: Season so we got hit with a bunch of. Injuries

1752
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 4: but to say, that's you, know speak about where we

1753
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 4: were back. Then today we're in that position where Now

1754
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 4: Josh allen and The Buffalo bills are the standard bears

1755
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 4: in the league and they're the ones that are built

1756
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 4: a reputation on steamrolling, teams scoring a lot of, points

1757
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 4: creating a lot of highlight reels for a sports center

1758
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 4: and all the sports talks shows throughout the.

1759
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 3: Country and so now the roles are.

1760
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 4: Reversed we're going into a new stadium and we're the

1761
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 4: big dogs that are being.

1762
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: Hunted there were some thin years being The bills, alive

1763
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: but now it's, like that's, right that's, right, man got.

1764
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 4: Seventeen we're being compensated for our passion and our, loyalty

1765
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 4: AND i think it's coming in in a boatload of

1766
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:57,480
Speaker 4: wins and. Excitement now we're an attractive, team an attractive

1767
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 4: fan base that other people want to be a.

1768
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: Part you probably don't see the stadium across the street very,

1769
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: often but when you do get a chance every once

1770
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: in a.

1771
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 5: While ago, by what are your.

1772
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,879
Speaker 4: THOUGHTS i remember when it was Just Erie Community. COLLEGE

1773
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 4: i remember when it was just a field and a parking.

1774
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 4: LOT i remember they were changing over the turf in

1775
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 4: the stadium at here the current high, mark so we

1776
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 4: had to practice on their on THE ecc practice of

1777
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 4: football field over. There So i'm just looking at all of,

1778
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 4: that AND i just see how times change, development you,

1779
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 4: know construction, development economic development.

1780
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 3: Grows and it's just a.

1781
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 4: Testament to the organization To buffalo And Orchard park communities

1782
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 4: to support the, team give them the resources and the

1783
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 4: support that they need to be. Successful and it's just

1784
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 4: a testament to the passion of the blue collar people

1785
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 4: that make up Western Western New. York days In buffalo are.

1786
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 4: Unmatched it's an unmatched experience in all of.

1787
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 3: SPORTS i don't care what you do where you've, been if.

1788
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 4: You haven't attended A Buffalo bill's home game where you

1789
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 4: get to experience firsthand The Bill's.

1790
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 2: Mafia, YEAH i love. It we gotta take a, break

1791
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: but we'll continue that here next On One Bill's. Live

1792
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:38,800
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1793
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 2: right we're back here On One Bill's, live and we're

1794
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: back to just say goodbye to you and we hope

1795
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 2: you have a wonderful. Weekend we'll be back here On

1796
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 2: monday from one to. Three thanks for tuning.

1797
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:50,479
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