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Speaker 1: it was for us, so so it felt and they

425
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: had it in Atlanta too, so it felt very It

426
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: felt like the home court advantage. It was definitely home

427
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: court advantage. But this is what I tell people. I

428
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: give them credit. They put, they shown they had, They

429
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: came very well prepared. They look amazing, They look good.

430
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: They look good, don't lie, I mean. And then there's

431
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: that because they looked amazing, they sound great, And I

432
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: was like, alright, name brand, neighbor and neighbor, and were

433
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: were we cut everybody? First of all, you guys were

434
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: all flawless. Everybody was beautiful. But when we all had settled,

435
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: when everyone had settled from that first half and we

436
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on, when we had settled,

437
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: y'all came out it was like, let me just played

438
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: times over, like we're here, you guys ready, you guys ready,

439
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: you guys ready to close it out because we gotta

440
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: all of us did the routine. It was just it

441
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: was a really sad of a fair to see a

442
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: bunch of grown ass women trying to repeat what I

443
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: was doing. We didn't know he was doing, but it was.

444
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: It was everything. So what was the response? What did

445
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: you hear? Fairly like, you know, don't be too high,

446
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: don't be too low, don't be too hard on yourself.

447
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: What did you hear the response when it was all

448
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: set and well? The response was, of course, we got

449
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: a lot of flak about the first half. It's like yall,

450
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: y'all board this and this and that. Yeah, but the

451
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: second half we got reviews over and yeah again like

452
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: escape that we're about to actually do a tour with them,

453
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: so I love them to death. Never Candy was at

454
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: my wedding, Like when I was trying to do a

455
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: solo album, Candy and probably produced it. So it is

456
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: no ill will it all of course, But I mean

457
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: the song yeah but you can't reis a little bit.

458
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: And on top of that, though, when no one wants

459
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: to do this because everyone says, oh we all everyone

460
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: won everyone tonight, And it's true. You introduce your music

461
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: to it. But at the end of the day, the

462
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: reason why you all were able to get to a

463
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: certain level because everyone's competitive, like you want to compete, Like, yeah,

464
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: I want to be here. On they got they was

465
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: in the gym, they was getting ready, y'all was getting ready.

466
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 1: It was a competition. It was a competition. That's why

467
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: the title in itself is a competition. So I'm not

468
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: trying to hear that we were ready to kill it

469
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: and then at the end of the day like, well

470
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: we won, Um, thank you for letting me even did

471
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: the show. We all had a little zoom conference call

472
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: and uh, we were discussing what song we're gonna be used,

473
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: and of course they wanted to use the songs that

474
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: they have written. And I'm like, go ahead, do it.

475
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: What to do? What are you not enough songs you

476
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: guys need? Okay, you go ahead, whatever we have to

477
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: do to quote unquote when like I think you gotta

478
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: do all right, don't go anywhere. We got ties on

479
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: the podcast. She's given us more stories that you do

480
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: not want to miss. We'll be back after we pay

481
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: some bills. Every Champion and carry Chappion is to be

482
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: a champion, a champion and carry Chappion and carry Chappi

483
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: on a Chappion and carry Chappion and carry Chappi and sports.

484
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: And then the team making Naked Work. Every Chappion and

485
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: carry Chappion is to be a chappy on a champion.

486
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: They carry Chappi and they chay yonda Chappion and carry

487
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: Chappion and carry Chappion sports. And then the team mak

488
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: and Naked Work. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Naked I'm

489
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: glad you just you know, either fast forwarded or listened

490
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: to the commercials, whatever the case. Here, what is this

491
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: tour that you guys are going on. You guys have

492
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: already been out though a few times. No, we've been out. Well,

493
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: we did a couple of shows with them on their

494
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: Great Escape tour when they got together. But this time

495
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna do Escape s wuv CO headline tour and

496
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: it's supposed to happen year, maybe towards the end of

497
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: the year, but definitely next year if we can't get

498
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: all of it um and we're working on a leather

499
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: little secret with us to two groups together to just

500
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: set it all off. It should be fun. It should

501
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: be fun. You said, you guys are doing a documentary

502
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: or a biography SMWV. I hope that. I hope that

503
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: which you was probably already put in. I hope that

504
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about the impact that you had

505
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: on the culture, um for for for our viewers who

506
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: who might be you know, born in n talked to

507
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: me about the the impact you feel that SWV now

508
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: in hindsight realize that you all had on the culture,

509
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: on black women, but on the culture and on on

510
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: the music industry. Well, I think one of the things

511
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: that we changed when we came out was the perception

512
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: of how ladies, girls, women are supposed to look. We

513
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: were the the sister side of the New jack Swing,

514
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 1: New Jail Swing, so we we werenked girly. We had

515
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: a little oversized pants, which missed that now I'm talking,

516
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: I had all these tips and stuff. But we were

517
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: more the rough tomboys of the industry. And it was

518
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: it was, I guess, um refreshing to some people who

519
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: felt like that that was more of what they wanted

520
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: to do and what they wanted to be opposed to

521
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: constantly having big hair, big eyelashes, much make up, all

522
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: this stuff. We literally the girls next door. So we

523
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: gave those girls who looked at us the right to

524
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: be normal. And that was fun. That's amazing. And on

525
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: top of that, to look like I told you what

526
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: it meant for me, I was just like, I can relate,

527
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: I feel that, I understand that. That makes sense to me,

528
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? A lot of people couldn't

529
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: see that in themselves and in what they called mainstream.

530
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: What about in terms of the music, where do you

531
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: how would you describe each one of you lyrically, like

532
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: Coco saying mostly songs? Well, how would you say your role?

533
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: What was your role? What was Lee's role? Leally not

534
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: And this will be in our biography because people seem

535
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: to think that we couldn't or we didn't want to

536
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: do Leaves. That wasn't the case at all. But you'll

537
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: understand that once you see the biography. Cobo's voice is

538
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: undeniably one of the best voices I've ever heard in

539
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: my life. I've never heard that girl horse one day

540
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: in my life. I've never heard her have a bad

541
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: day Vocally, her range only gets higher. She was just blessed.

542
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: She's like the Michael Jordan's of singing. She's there with

543
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: Whitney and Mariah, all of them, so she she's our

544
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: best foot forward. So it made sense to put her

545
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: out there. Do we want her to go out there

546
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: as much? Of course not. Nobody wants to stand in

547
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: the background and and be overlooked. But um, Lily has

548
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: this beautiful falsetto. It's beautiful uh slow tone that she

549
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: she has, and it's unfortunate not a lot of people

550
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: get to hear it unless we're a lot. That's when

551
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: we do our singing. Um. I think I have a

552
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: nice auto that that compliments both fields voices. But again,

553
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: people don't get to really hear all of that unless

554
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: we're on stage. And I went through a part where

555
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: I had to have vocals there there. Um, I'm sorry, surgery.

556
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: I had a poll up, um, a bleeding poll up

557
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: on my cords. I literally last twenty nineteen, I'm literally

558
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: on stage lip sync and every word, and it was

559
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: just killing me because I felt like I couldn't do

560
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: what I love to do. But yeah, I think, regardless

561
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: of what people say, all of Lynn is especial to me.

562
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: I think it it's smooth, is it's very clear and clean,

563
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: and I love that part in your biography. Do you

564
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: get into why you all weren't allowed to sing lead

565
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: on any songs? Because that was the rumor as to

566
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: why you all broke up, Like y'all was like, but

567
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: it was all another reason why we broke up. Give

568
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: it to us. But but but any any fan knows

569
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: that you could sing em lately, could sing when you

570
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: guys had your parts have a place. Yeah, we can sing.

571
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: Make We may not be nobody, no, but everybody can coo. Yeah.

572
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: I didn't think. I didn't feel like you couldn't sing.

573
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: I just felt like that might have been as a fan,

574
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: what the what the messaging was did? How frustrating was that?

575
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: For you? It was frustrating. But for me, I'll tell

576
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: you out back then. I guess I didn't show it,

577
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: but I was so shy. I had horrendous stage fright

578
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: and anxiety whenever I stepped on that stage. And I

579
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: think part of that was because I didn't think I

580
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: could live up to what people was expecting whenever we

581
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: would sing, because they wanted us all would sound like

582
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: Coco I would just, I would just I was actually

583
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: after a while happy and give me that background that

584
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: Michael phone. I was standing right right here in the dark.

585
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: Nobody has to see me. So it was a lot.

586
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: It was a lot. But we move forward, and like

587
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, it's nothing, it's something. Yeah, well no,

588
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: it's it's what it is, what it is. And and

589
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: and by the way, the industry has changed so much.

590
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: Everyone has different personalities and and what we're missing I

591
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: think now is like the new editions and the s

592
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: w vs and the boys in man, we don't have

593
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: any of those groups anymore. Those groups that you know

594
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: are male or female, they're all they're just we're they're

595
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: gone and everyone. And then there's a bunch of in

596
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: my opinion, voices that in sounds that are very similar

597
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: and I can't differentiate. Sometimes I'm like, oh, is that who?

598
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: I thought that was her? Because they okay, they you know,

599
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: very few, you know, very few people, in my opinion,

600
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: stand out an expert. I'm not an expert. That's just

601
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: how it was. So when I think of all the

602
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: things that you were all able to do, in my mind,

603
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: I guess it would have been weird. I guess in

604
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: that mind to see something different from s w V.

605
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: I just felt like, you know, you get you know back,

606
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: and then we have thirteen fourteen fifteen tracks on it,

607
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, yeah? Right, ye know what? Or two we're

608
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: back in the day. Okay, So now I look at

609
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: all something that you've been able to accomplish during in

610
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: post um, we have to talk Survivor. I read that

611
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: you responded to a casting call on Survivor. Is that true?

612
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: It was okay? So I thought someone called and said

613
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: we're looking for the wife of Okay, Well, yeah, that

614
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: was an respawn. I didn't know anything about it before

615
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: or after I went on. So tell me that you

616
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: knew nothing about it. You're like, sure, I'll do it.

617
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: It's fun. Yes, So yeah, I did you know why?

618
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: Because I thought it was a television show. I didn't

619
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: realize it was an actual reality show. And I say

620
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: that because reality television these days, it's not reality. They

621
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: have arey lins, so these things that are all contrived

622
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: and set up. That's not reality. They just don't want

623
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: to pay you your sag fee. So they're calling the reality.

624
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: But you're acting okay, right, right, right? Right? But I

625
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: went on this show, thinking that we're gonna put in

626
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: eight twelve hours of shoot. When we go back to

627
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: your hotel, shower, get cleaned up, come back, they prow

628
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: some bed on you and you keep it moving. No,

629
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: those cameras never go off. They never go off, and

630
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: you do not have toilet tissue. That is you out

631
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: there surviving. This is not what I said up for.

632
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: We are surviving. Yes, but if I had a nun if,

633
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: I probably would kill somebody for some food. It was

634
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: just horrible. It was let me take that. It wasn't horrible.

635
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: It was very different from what I had ever experienced.

636
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: I'm from the book. I've never been out in the

637
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 1: wild to survive, but you did so well. So maybe

638
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: that's the same skill set that Hustler skill set was applied.

639
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: I think that was just Brooklyn on full Molde survival mode,

640
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: like Surviva is the original squad game without killing for sure?

641
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: For sure? Did you tell me, like, were there ever times?

642
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were. We You're like, I'm quitting, I

643
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: don't want it was it was it was the rope

644
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: season eighteen right, it was CCT Okay, yes, yes, okay,

645
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: and the humination ceremony I'm like, this is my chance,

646
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: this is question really? Oh my god, we wanted out.

647
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: Those bugs were relentless. Everything was bigger and bolder and

648
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: jelapal Brazil. They had these little things and I'm not

649
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: gonna call them little because they were jigantic called bot

650
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: flies that when they bite you, they deposit their larva

651
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: under your skin. I was chewed from head to toe everywhere.

652
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: The only thing those bugs didn't get was my face

653
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: because I would literally sleep with that buff over my face.

654
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: Because one thing you will not do was touch this

655
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: right here. Hello, don't using my money maker. I'm gonna

656
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: making money. I gotta make my money. Don't must my money.

657
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: I know all about it. Yes, the frogs were like

658
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: as the biggest puppies. I mean, it was just it

659
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: was skin. I was ready to go. I was like

660
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: depositing things under my skin. I was like, I gotta

661
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: I got to go. Okay, So let's talk about just

662
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: the aspect of staying cute, like you just would you

663
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: give that up? Because I would be like, what about

664
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: my lashes? You can take that with you? What'd you take?

665
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: Because how did you stay cute? Would you take with you?

666
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: What were you allowed? To take with it must have

667
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: just been my natural look because you had nothing nothing.

668
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: The only thing I did was I braided my hair

669
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: because I knew I wouldn't be able to comb my

670
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: hair in two months out in the wild. Just wasn't

671
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: gonna work for no black girl here. So I make

672
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: sure I have braids in my hair. But other than that,

673
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: you have nothing. Nothing. You don't even have too brash

674
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: on everybody's breath, smell like ass. They that's just rude.

675
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: You're surviving. You're surviving. I give everybody credit. Those people

676
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: will go on that show like three or four times.

677
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: They had mental issue you. So so when you get eliminated, disappointment,

678
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: relief a little bit of both. When I was eliminated,

679
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: I made it to the final four. By the time

680
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: I was eliminated, I was disappointed because my alliance, they

681
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: they dogged me out. I'm lucky. I love them because

682
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: like I couldn't them up real good, but I didn't.

683
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: But I believe the reason that they blindsided me was

684
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: because they were worried I would win. Just a likable person.

685
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: Everybody liked me. Yeah, and that's and that's what wins sometimes. Yeah,

686
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: And they were worried that if I went to the

687
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: final two, I would probably win, so they had they

688
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: had to go ahead and blind side. I let him live,

689
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: cold blooded, cold blood. It's the cold world out there. Overall, though,

690
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: had that experience really sitting your spirit when you got home,

691
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change it. I wouldn't change it for the world.

692
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: I had a great time aside from all the starvation

693
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: and bug bites. I'm twenty nine pounds and thirty seven days. Ladies,

694
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: this is a commercial for Survivor Wait Life. Yes, one

695
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: of the reasons I think people love me is because

696
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: I was like, here, you can eat this. I was

697
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: trying to start off my babyweight and you did you

698
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: really want to eat any of that? Were you hungry?

699
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: I didn't do no bugs. That's one thing I'm not

700
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: gonna do like those kids. Some of the younger players

701
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: are like, let me just taste it them you do that,

702
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm not even a damn but look like, but when

703
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: I came home, I had a whole new sense of

704
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: appreciation and gratitude for everything I've been blessed with. I

705
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: don't understanding under the moonlight out in the in the

706
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: forest and everything was just lit so beautifully. I thought

707
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: it was gorgeous, Like there are people who actually live

708
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: here every day and have to go to this with

709
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: no food, having to kill whatever they eat, all those things.

710
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: I come home to this gigantic house, beautiful cars, so

711
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: everything you can imagine, and I was just so grateful

712
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: that I could give that to my son. Mm hmmm,

713
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: that's beautiful. That's beautiful. But a great, great perspective, I

714
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: think that you have been able to Um, really you

715
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: know it's not it's not possible to have it all,

716
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: but you've had it all at different times. UM, the

717
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: great career, UM, still you know, motivating, speaking, writing, UM,

718
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: still very active, still in your career. Then you have

719
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: a husband and kids, and people look and think, can

720
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: we have it all? And I've been told you can,

721
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: just at different times. So you are married to Eddie George.

722
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: Obviously I work in sports, so that's how I know

723
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: him and people most people are fans of his on

724
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: this podcast because they love sports. And how were you

725
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: able to take what you do as an entertainer what

726
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: he did as a football player, although after you guys

727
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: were at the letter stages of your career when you're married,

728
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: I believe but when y'all first got together, y'all was

729
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: both was popping. I wasn't. I was out there. Actually

730
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: when we first met, he was my fan first. I

731
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: met him in Florida at the Mall of Florida while

732
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: he was there for the City's Bowl. I was there

733
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: with my boyfriend and he came up a draft. I

734
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: was like, a here you go, deuces and he always like,

735
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: he'll bring that up to this day, you dissed me.

736
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know you. What the hell was I supposed

737
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: to do? I found want what we're gonna do? Have dinner?

738
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I'm with my boyfriend. Yeah. So that

739
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: next year he had won the Heisman. Just so happens,

740
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: I was going through a breakup with that particular guy

741
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: that was with the year before. My girlfriend took me

742
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: to Chas and Wilson's to get my mind off of things.

743
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: That's that's a gay as. It used to be a

744
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: really hot spot back in the nineties where opened my um. Yeah,

745
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: it was. It was really cool back then. So he

746
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: was there with a friend celebrating. My girlfriend saw and

747
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this next guy. You guys should

748
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: connect and hook up. When we walked over to meet him.

749
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: He reminded me that he had met Media four and

750
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't remember you, but okay. We exchange

751
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: phone numbers for like two weeks. We talked, and then

752
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: I told him I was going back too much with friend.

753
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: I told him that, and we didn't talk for like

754
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: two years. I couldn't stand him because within them two years,

755
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: he started getting my girlfriend. Oh really, all right? He

756
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: call himself looking us up. He started dating her. Oh no, okay,

757
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: So then you don't talk to her no more. I

758
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: know that, Actually I do, because you are friends, okay,

759
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: which but I'm gonna let that go. So kennybuddy, I'm

760
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: telling you. Two years later, I ran into him at

761
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons fashion show during All Star weekend. And long

762
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: story short, I was in the fashion show. He was

763
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: just there hanging out. I got on the stage and

764
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: was ready to leave out on a T shirt and

765
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: some sweats. I wanted to stop at the bar to

766
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: get something that right before I left, And as I

767
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: was walking to the bar, he was walking away from

768
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: the bar and we literally bumped into each other. And

769
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: that was twenty four years ago. And so but you

770
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: guys kept seeing each other. So that was it. Yes,

771
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: it was destiny. It was destiny. Yeah, you guys were

772
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: supposed to be together, apparently because he just wouldn't stout

773
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: following me where you go. So then you have this relationship.

774
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: You have kids. They're into sports. I see you post

775
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: your babies all the time. Babies are grown babies. Um,

776
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: you're twenty twenty five year old. I think mr old.

777
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: And then another one who just went to college. He

778
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: plays football in college. But no, no, my youngest he's seventeen.

779
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: He got from firm in university. Congratulations, thank you gonna

780
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: go there? He don't know. He's still looking at other schools.

781
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: He's been getting a lot of invitations from other schools,

782
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: but that was the first one we had gone to

783
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: as a g see and he left it. I loved

784
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: the campus. Actually, then more focused on education. I know

785
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: he wants to play sports, but I'm like, boy, you're

786
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: gonna need that degree when you're done. And do you

787
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: do you feel like early on they felt like they

788
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 1: had to live in their father's footsteps as a football player.

789
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: I think my oldest son went through that more. He's

790
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: my stepson. Actually, during him two years when Eddie and

791
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,959
Speaker 1: I were together. He had a baby. Also, he brother

792
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: was busy. Okay, I was like, why don't you take

793
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: him nap? So you are funny. I'm like wait, I

794
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: was like, as long as I wasn't there, and it

795
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: wasn't on him, like when you're old exactly. So my

796
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: my oldest son, who I met when he turned a

797
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: year old, that's when Eddie and I said dating. I

798
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: think he felt more, um more pressure to live up

799
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: to Eddie standard from other people because Eddie never pressured

800
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: them to Actually, he didn't even want them to play

801
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: sports until it turned twelve. He wanted to keep their

802
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: bodies from having all that hounding from him, so he

803
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: never encouraged him to play sports. They just wanted to.

804
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: My oldest son, he got a full scholarship to Vanderbilt University,

805
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: but he got hurt a lot, so he couldn't realize

806
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: his dream of playing and I think that bothered him

807
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: a lot. Um. Yeah, So after he graduated what he

808
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: did early because he's super smart, he's now at US

809
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Film School. He wants to be a director. He changes

810
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: his his congratulations, that's great. Yeah. He started as an

811
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: engineer major Vanderbilt and that left like in the first semester,

812
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: I think too much to handle with football and all

813
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: that that rigorous work. So he switched his major to

814
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: ECON and then he decided he wanted to film and

815
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: director movies. He want. Look, you don't even go please.

816
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: I know so many people when I was in called

817
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: change your major four or five times. You find your

818
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: passionate and then you change with Yeah, that's so wonderful.

819
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: That is so wonderful. So what's next for you? What

820
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: are you doing for your outside of you guys touring?

821
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: I know they are, and I know you you've already written.

822
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: I think you're retten two two books or one two books? Yes,

823
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: two books. Do you have any projects that are your

824
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: baby projects that you're working on for yourself right now? Yes?

825
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: My priority right now is my CVD skincare line called Tasmatology.

826
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: It's uh infused with copper and ashwaganda to relax and

827
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: smooth the skin and release the wrinkle, all natural. I

828
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: am a product wore and I've tried just about everything,

829
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: but this seems to always be some kind of for me,

830
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: some kind of side effect of those products. So I

831
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: wanted to do something more natural, um and I just

832
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: started working on with the chemists to get some ideas together.

833
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: Told them what I like and it's coming along. It

834
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: should be out with the end of this year. I'm

835
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: all for any kind of My my girlfriends did something

836
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: simple similar to that. I'm I love all products, so

837
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: I'm all for a products. Got you got a client

838
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: right away? Yeah? This everything else, Um, I think we

839
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: have it all. You have been such a pleasure. This

840
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: is You don't understand how happy I am. I know

841
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: people tell you that, but you you are really a

842
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: part of my my right of passage, my my growing up.

843
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: You helped me find my sexy and I'm still pretty

844
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: and all the things right when I was when I

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Speaker 1: was just a little insecure, a little nineteen year old

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Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. I looked at you and

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Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, she's beautiful. Thank you right like you

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Speaker 1: see it. So thank you for that. And you should

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Speaker 1: get your roses while you're a life always. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I was so excited to have Taj here

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Speaker 1: like I have you guys heard I'm fawning. But what

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Speaker 1: I love for her, what I really truly love for her,

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned this. You can't have it all, maybe

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Speaker 1: not all at once, but as a mother, as a wife,

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Speaker 1: as a woman who has a successful career, as a

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Speaker 1: woman who's still thriving and doing what she wants to do,

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Speaker 1: I believe it's possib a bowl. It may not all

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Speaker 1: work at the same time, and it may not be

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Speaker 1: all the things you want at the same time, but

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Speaker 1: it can happen. And she's a living example of that,

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Speaker 1: and I love it. Last, but not least, next week

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a good one. So making sure you'all

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Speaker 1: tune in and celebrate your girl, help her out. Listen

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Speaker 1: to the podcast. We're doing well, just getting started in

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Speaker 1: season two, and I'm having some of my faiths on,

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Speaker 1: so indulge me. Listen to me talk about some of

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Speaker 1: my faiths. Uh Naked coming at you next week.