1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, it is a Lala mother. Ethan Kent't We're 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: back baby. I got Audrina Patridge on the podcast today. 3 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: You guys gave me all the feedback in the world 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: last episode, because Justin and I were like, what do 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: I want to see it on the podcast? Like what 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: do you want to listen to? And my little give 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: them give them Lala squad. They came through. They did. 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: You guys did come through. 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 3: We got so much feedback and I'm so excited to 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: sit down with Lalla and go through it all and 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 3: maybe we'll do it on the podcast even I don't know. 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: I would love to, like after this episode, next week's episode, 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: let's go through like all all of them. Yeah, like 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Yeah. 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: So you guys even have another let's say five days 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: to be safe. If you didn't give feedback, you might 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: as well, because we're going to go through as much 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: of it as we can right on next Yeah. And 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: so what I've been seeing the most is DM just 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: DM give them La La podcast, and that's how we're. 21 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Going to go through it. Well. The whole point of 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: like the rebrand of the podcast was like I want 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: my listeners to be heard like it's a platform where 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, let's be open and honest and like create 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: this little community of you know, people who are going 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: through the ups and downs of life. And I think that, 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, my my guests also have to reflect that. 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, of course, of course, you 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: know we we I originally came into this podcast from 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: the jump of like, what's the format. There is no format, right, 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be bumping gums and like have great 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: guests on. But you know, I want I want to 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: know what my listeners digm. You know, it's the whole reason, 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: Like I said in the episode with my brother, without 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: my listeners, without my friends, my people, I'm just freaking 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: talking to myself in a microphone, wasting a whole lot 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: of time. Like it's got to be productive. I like 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: things that are not productive in my life they gotta go. Yeah, 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm listening to Chris Medina in the sense where he's like, 40 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: you gotta burn bridges in your life. Yeah, whatever that means. 41 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: And now if it's like it's not productive, it's not 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: serving me. You're bringing out aside of me that I 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: don't like. Granted, my mom always says, like you're in 44 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: charge of your own emotions. People can't make you feel 45 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: a certain way, but you can allow them to make 46 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: you feel a certain way. It's like, you know what, No, 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: you're making me feel this way and I don't need 48 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: it right, So give me the gasoline and a match, 49 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: because I'm torching the bridge right. 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: People always tell told me you are who you hang around, 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: and I agree with that fifty percent, and I disagree. 52 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: But I did notice when I would hang around on 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: friends who were always complaining, always talking shit, always bitching, 54 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: I felt myself starting to do that and get in 55 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: a very very negative space. And then my friends who 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: were like positive and whatever, on the up and up 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: and always like going after what they wanted and their goals, 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 3: I felt myself being more that way. So I don't 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: know if I agree with it necessarily because my childhood 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: best friend she's like my ride or die and we're 61 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: completely different. But still I'm like, we're different, but I'm like, 62 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: so I don't agree with. 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: It in that sense. 64 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: I'm not like her, she's not like me, but we're 65 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: still best friend totally. Yeah, But I do think in 66 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: some certain circumstances it happens, like do you hang out 67 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: with people that bring you down and or are negative, 68 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: and then you feel like you get negative or no, 69 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: You're like I can be around that person and I'm myself. 70 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: No. There are definitely people I've been around where I 71 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: leave and I go home and I'm like, I feel 72 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: so heavy, Where's my giant bundle of sage? Right? Yeah? 73 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: But as I've gotten older, I have pulled away from 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: people who make me feel that way. But like yesterday, 75 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: yesterday was a throwaway day for me, Okay, tell tell 76 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: me about thatll. I just like I woke up and 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, my mom was in Newport and I had 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: to film later, so I had like a full day 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: and you know, you had things that I needed to 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: get done, and I was like, today, it's just it 81 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: ain't hidden. 82 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 83 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: I literally hot boxed my bathroom with sage, right, you know, 84 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: but I opened the door and looked back into the 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: bathroom and it was just smoke. Because I have this 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: huge someone I think it was like, uh, someone sent me. Oh, 87 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: I know exactly what it was. At the book signing, 88 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: someone gave me tober, someone gave me a huge bundle 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: of stage. I mean, I can't even imagine what it 90 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: cost them. It was so sweet, but I burned that. Okay, 91 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: I manifested, I prayed, I you know, did my whole 92 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: thing with God in the universe that I so often 93 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: do when I'm feeling like, Okay, we're going down the 94 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: fucking rabbit soul. We rather to pull ourselves together. And 95 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: after I did that whole thing, you know, I lit 96 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: my stage and I'm like, you know, saying my little prayer, 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: manifesting whatever. And then I listened to Break my Soul 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: by Beyonce on repeat and was just like holding my stage. Yes, motherfucker, 99 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: No one is breaking me. Yes, hell no. Because I 100 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: so often preach like, if our minds are strong enough 101 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: to take us to a dark place, they're certainly strong 102 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: enough to get us out of that place. Now, however, 103 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: I am by no means saying that people shouldn't be 104 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: on medication if they're suffering from depression or anxiety, Like 105 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: science is incredible and you should go to a doctor. 106 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: And I believe in therapists and all of these things. 107 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: So I'm certainly not saying like I have to do 108 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: is talk yourself out of it. 109 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: Right. 110 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: That is not, let me repeat, that is not what 111 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: I am saying, Right, but in those moments where you're 112 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: going there, I think we should empower ourselves to say 113 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: we're not going here. I won't allow it. So I'm 114 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: taking a moment to myself and I'm gonna do what 115 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: I need to do to connect with something or someone 116 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: greater than me. And I'm gonna put on Beyonce and 117 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm fucking taking on the rest of the day. Right. 118 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what you meant by throwaway day, but 119 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: I think those days. 120 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: Are very important. 121 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 3: Like that's why I can on a Sunday tell Kyle, like, literally, 122 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: I'm waking up and I'm bingch watching TV until five PM. 123 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: I'll take a break and take Margo on a few walks. 124 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: But like, to me, that is just my. 125 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 3: Version of mental health sometimes, and like those days are 126 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: just as important as the days I wake up at 127 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: like four thirty am and I'm like, I'm gonna go 128 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: to the gym and then I'm gonna get right and 129 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: then I'm gonna go to work and then. 130 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: I like those are just as important. So yeah, I 131 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: think that in the world, like in our society in America, 132 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: where we're like it's so instilled in us that hustle 133 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: harder wake up, work until the sun goes down, and 134 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: then all you can sleep when you're dead. Make that money, 135 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: and it becomes like you go to other places and 136 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: they have like two hour lunch breaks and then it's 137 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: time for nap, like they really just enjoy life. And 138 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: take take that as like I'm not productive in what 139 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: I need to get done if I'm not feeling centered 140 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: and well rested, Like America is a different type of grind. 141 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: And it's like I can have a day that's a 142 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: Saturday and feel no guilt, you know, just kicking it. 143 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: But if you're taking me on a freaking you know, Tuesday, 144 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's a throwayday, then then I struggle 145 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: with the guilt of like you should be hustling. I 146 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: should be making money. You should you know. And it's 147 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: just because that's the world. 148 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: That we have been brought up in, I know, and 149 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: it's all over social media if you're and I don't 150 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: think there's anything. I think there's few things that are 151 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: more damaging than the quote unquote no days off mindset. 152 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: And if that means like of work, working out, literally anything, 153 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: I think that's could be one of the most damaging 154 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: things mindsets when like no rest, no days off. I 155 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: think that's very damaging. First so too, so I'm glad 156 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: you took. 157 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: But even on social media, yeah, people are you know 158 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: posting it's like, oh today you're resting today by the pool. Well, 159 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm resting harder in the Amalfi Coast on a yacht 160 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: and right what now the fuck? I can't even rest 161 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: without feeling, you know, you're really like someone's resting harder 162 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: than me. 163 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: It's literally the summer of everyone in Europe, and I'm like, 164 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: what do you do for a living, because I'm like 165 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: from college. 166 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: How are you spending your summers in Italy? What's going on? 167 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: You know? I was talking to Katie the other day 168 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: and you know, because season four it was like I'm 169 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: going to Italy on a modeling trip. Yeah, and I'm 170 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: five six, you know, you know, and I had like 171 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: it seemed like I was one of those girls who 172 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: was always on like amazing vacations. But truth be told, 173 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: I have never been on like a really extravagant vacation 174 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: that I didn't pay for. Like with my ex. Of course, 175 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: we we went on really beautiful trips, but it wasn't 176 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: like the Instagram like quote unquote models that you see now, 177 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: like the influencers. Yes, And I was talking to Katie 178 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, I said that I was. 179 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: I was just a fun bitch to be around, and 180 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: that's why they were inviting me. But I'm sure if 181 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: I would have gone, maybe they would have expected me 182 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: to bust it wide open or like, I don't know, 183 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: you know, I was. I still am. I'm like very 184 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm aware, but like I'm naive when comes 185 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: to like what people expect from me, right, or like 186 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: I don't know when people are on drugs. I mean 187 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: I do now, yes, but like I just didn't surround 188 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: myself with people like that. Yeah, So when someone was like, 189 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: want to go to Italy, I was just like fun. 190 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: We had a friend once who would always tell us 191 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: whenever we got in those situations. She would go, no, 192 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: this is a college friend. No grown man wants to 193 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: be your friend, Like, because we had I had friends 194 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: who would be like, but he's just so nice and 195 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: he wants to take me to wherever. And she would 196 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: always be like, no grown man wants to be your friend. 197 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: Just remind yourself of that. 198 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's a good point. I mean yes, 199 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean that might not be true, but it's a 200 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: few and far between that you're going to find the 201 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: older rich man who's like, you know what, I enjoy 202 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: your company, Yeah, come and hang out. Yeah you're like, no, no, no, 203 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: And if you find that person, good on yet, you know, 204 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: good for you? Right? Yeah? 205 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: Did you ever go to that Italy trip that you're 206 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: talking about on season four? 207 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: When? 208 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: No, you didn't, No, because I was slutshamed. It was 209 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: felt so bad that I was like, I'm going home 210 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: to Utah instead. 211 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: I mean, my mom, No, So you didn't after all 212 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: of that, you didn't even go after all that skank shaman. 213 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, I went back to the beehiveste Damn damn no. 214 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, that was wait the row back memory. I 215 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: know that was a little, a little tangent, but spoiler alert, 216 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: some people love those. 217 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: A lot of people love those. When you go on tangents, 218 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: spoiler alert for next week. 219 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: They want more Lalla. We well the podcast is give 220 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: them Lala. 221 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: I know, you know, yes, they want all Lalla that 222 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 3: people love Lalla and again haven't been through them. All 223 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: excited to go through them, all the messages, but yeah, 224 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: it's very much people. I think what I've seen being like, 225 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: we love it when you talk about ocean and all 226 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: all this stuff. 227 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: But can I tell you, Jess, it's still even though 228 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: I've been doing what I've been doing for a while, 229 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: it's still perplexing to me that people give a shit 230 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: about me. Like I constantly am like why, And you know, 231 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: on tour or with the podcast, I was, I'm always 232 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: obsessing over who's my guest? Who's my guest? Yes? And 233 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: I forget like my people are coming to support me, 234 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: like they don't care about I know the guest is, 235 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: I tends maybe they do. I don't know. I'm sure, 236 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure the guest is like the cherry on top, 237 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: But I do still feel like this, like bitch from Utah, 238 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: like why do people give a damn about me? 239 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: I hear you, But you were exactly right when you 240 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: said the guest is the cherry on top. I think 241 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: a majority of the time, but like you have to 242 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: remember you're the ice. 243 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: Cream and the whip cream. Oh, I love it all 244 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: of the guests. Is that the right word metaphor? I 245 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I should know well because in an interview 246 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: I kept using the word analogy and I think it 247 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: wasn't analogy, it was a metaphor. What were you saying 248 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: analogy about? I was talking about my life as a puzzle, 249 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: and then I considered myself butter and my beef with 250 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: Schwartz with a microwave. I don't fucking know what. It 251 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: made zero sense, but I just rolled with it. And 252 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I kept saying strange analogy, and then 253 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think that that's the right word. 254 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm literally I think a metaphor is when you take 255 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: something that's happening, yeah, and use like a puzzle. Yes, metaphor, 256 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: I think that's it. To an analogy, I think is 257 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: me taking something I'm going through and then being like, Jess, 258 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: it would be like you doing this. I think so too. 259 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 260 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: So I completely used the word. Well now you're using it. 261 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: They ran us weekly and I read it and I 262 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: was like, I have to stop reading. I sound like 263 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: such an idiot. It's confusing. 264 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: I didn't go to college, and I did, and I 265 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: still don't know. 266 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: So there were so many times in school where like 267 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: I knew I was a bad tester. Yeah, and so 268 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: I'd roll up on my teacher and I'd be like, 269 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: here's the deal. I was a fucking hustler since day one. 270 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, can I instead write an eight page paper 271 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: on why I'm bad at test taking? Would they let you? Yes? 272 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 2: Stop? 273 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: Yes, there were a couple teachers that did let me. Yeah, 274 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I also wrote a paper on 275 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: why it was so hard for me to understand how 276 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: to learn a ruler. You cannot grasp the ruler. See 277 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: right now, I'm like, it's got to be either. 278 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: To the inch or a half, like no, you know 279 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: that makes sense, like the and three eighths like having 280 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: to be so. 281 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: So then can you tell time on a is it 282 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: called an analog clock? 283 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: Can you tell? 284 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: You can? I can totally. Sometimes it's in between the 285 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: time thing. Yeah, but that's easy because it's the fives 286 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: and then in between they say the ones. 287 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: Do you know how many I saw TikTok about them 288 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: going up to gen Z people or even like people 289 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: in their twenties and saying showing them a clock, like 290 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: ninety percent were like I have no idea what that means. 291 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: And cursive is a lost art. Okay, anyway, I'm so 292 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: good at cursive. By the way, you because we had 293 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: to we had to. I also had to learn what 294 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: was the penmanship called calligraphy, calligraphy. I had to learn 295 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: how to do calligraphy in school. They were like, okay, my, 296 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: have your moms take you to fred Meyer. That was 297 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: like the local little grocery store that had, you know, 298 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: this arts and crafts. Obviously we're from Utah, always in 299 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: arts and craft section no matter where you go. And 300 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: we had to get like calligraphy pens. 301 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: Do you know people pay like good money for those classes. Now, 302 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: like I was gonna pay for I didn't learn calligraphy. 303 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: What if you rolled up day one of your interview 304 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, you have to write everything in calligraphy, 305 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: No phones, no Google calendar, caligraphy only. 306 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: I would think that it was so funny, And Hilaria said, 307 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 3: I would take that so seriously. 308 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: I'd be like, yes, you also have to wear my 309 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: face on all your clothing. You have a uniform. You 310 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: would have thought I was insane. I would have laughed, 311 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm wearing my face enough for the both of us exactly. 312 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: Don't even worry about it. All right, So there's our tangent. 313 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: There's the intro. I'm excited to have Audrena on, So 314 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: stick with me, my little sexy muffins, because when we 315 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: come back, we have like an og of reality TV. 316 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: You're welcome, We'll be right back. We are back, and 317 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: I am so excited about this guest. You guys know 318 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: her obviously. Her name is Audrina Patridge. Hello, my love. 319 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: Hello, I'm so happy to be on your podcast. 320 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you on my podcast. You're 321 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: like the og of reality television. 322 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel like before I even started 323 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: reality I didn't really know what to compare it to, 324 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: aside from like the Jessica Simpson and Nicholaschey Show, But that, right, 325 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: I think that was it at the time. 326 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the I mean the reality TV world. You know, 327 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: I just remember like growing up and having the real. 328 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: World, real world, that's right. 329 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: But your show was like where you don't all live 330 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: in one house together, and it was just, I'm sure 331 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: very strange for you to have cameras on you following 332 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: your every move at the age of what you were nineteen. 333 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: Almost nineteen when I started. 334 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 335 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: Like barely nineteen, and we filmed a full year before 336 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: the producers kind of decided. I guess like how we 337 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: all fit in with each other and what they wanted 338 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: to show because we were all kind of getting used 339 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: to the cameras. I know, Lauren and Heidi had experience, 340 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: but Whitney and I did not, So we were trying 341 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: to figure out how we all fit. 342 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: In right, how to like what your place is, what 343 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: your role is. It's so funny because I was having 344 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: a conversation with some one. Oh it was Jeff Lewis yesterday. 345 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: He was on a reality TV show. There's so many 346 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: people who have such strong personalities and the second you 347 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: throw them into like a reality TV space, they freeze up. 348 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 349 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: Did you find that happen to you? 350 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: I think I did in the beginning, because I was 351 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 2: going on auditions for modeling and doing little acting things 352 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: and got gigs here and there for music videos and 353 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: commercials and stuff. But the whole reality side of it, 354 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: like there's three cameras around you, you have all these 355 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: people staring at you while you're trying to go on 356 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: a date, and you're like, going on a date for 357 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: the first time is bad enough, and then you add 358 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: all all these other layers. It was tough. You freeze up. 359 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: That part scares me because I have yet to like 360 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: do a date on camera, like a new date, you know, 361 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: because cameras always want to capture the first date because 362 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: it's awkward, and then you add the cameras. 363 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 2: It's it is, it's really awkward. But I feel like 364 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 2: we at this point, you know, were kind of seasoned, right, 365 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: and I feel like all these new guys I remember, 366 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: they would totally freeze up, and it's like you can't 367 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: really get to know someone with all these cameras. But 368 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: then you get the the alcohol flowing, and sometimes that 369 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: loosens them up or takes the edge off. But really 370 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 2: it's just it's it's a whole different world. People have 371 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: no idea until they're thrown in front of a camera. 372 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, and you can't explain it to people. I 373 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: can watch reality TV as a viewer, but also because 374 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: I've been a part of it. At the end of 375 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: the day, like you know, moments that I've had where 376 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: I'm mortified, I have to step into that viewer perspective 377 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: and go, but you made great TV. 378 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing too, even with the last season 379 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 2: of The Hills that we just did, I respect the 380 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: entertainment value side of things. So whenever you need to 381 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: kind of improvs a scene to make it more dramatic 382 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: or more interesting because it's too boring. You step it 383 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: up and you kind of have to. And that's why 384 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 2: sometimes the producers would step in and they're like Adrina, 385 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: like you're out of three. Take it to a ten, 386 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: I need tears, or I need this, or go in 387 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: there and say this and stir the pot. It's like, okay, let's. 388 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: Do it right. Because even though it is a reality 389 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: like it is real life, yeah, it is a produced 390 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: show because it's for entertainment, so you definitely do have 391 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: those moments of a producer stepping in and being like 392 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: what are we doing? 393 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, like this is boring. No one's gonna want to 394 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: watch this. You guys step it up. 395 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: So I'm intrigued by you because you know reality TV 396 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: obviously now a lot of people say that it's like oversaturated, 397 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: like everyone and their dog can get a show based 398 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: on their life. Do I agree with that? Absolutely? Not yea. 399 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: And not every reality show is iconic. You are from 400 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: an iconic reality television show and you have managed to 401 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: make yourself a household name. Is that strange for you? 402 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: You know? I feel like it was in the beginning 403 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: because it was so surreal, and I had these girls 404 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: coming up to me giving me hugs and crying and 405 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: shaking and I'm just staring at me and I was like, 406 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: I'm a human, Like, hi, normal too, It's just because 407 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm on TV. But then I would also have older 408 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: women that would watch it and come up and give 409 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: me advice like I was their granddaughter or their niece 410 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: or something about Justin and I'm like, all right, first off, 411 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: you don't know everything, but thank you. I appreciate your advice. 412 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: You know, it was so crazy, it's so weird. 413 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: It is crazy. And then but you almost have to 414 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: be grateful for those people because they're the loyal fans 415 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: who are watching every single episode every time you come 416 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: out with a product or like you you have your 417 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 1: book coming out, by the way, congratulations, thank you. That 418 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: is not easy. Did you enjoy the writing process. 419 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: Well, it was probably a year and a half. It was. 420 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: It was hard. There was days where you know, I 421 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: would get on the phone with the ghost Rider Jen. 422 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: He was amazing. She's almost like a therapist, and I 423 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 2: would break down crying. I'm like, I don't think I 424 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: could go. I blocked so much of my life out 425 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: and I just want to move forward. Like I never 426 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: thought i'd have to go back and dig and like 427 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: bring those emotions back to the purpose. So that for 428 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 2: me was very therapeutic. It was healing in a way 429 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: because now I can read it and I'm okay to 430 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: talk about it. I'm beyond that point now where it's 431 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: like I'm finally in a good place. 432 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: How did you come up with the title of your book? 433 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: Because me, I was sitting there racking my brain and 434 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: then it was just give them alack like everything else. 435 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I need to read your book too. 436 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: I did not have a name. I just kind of 437 00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: started basically my book. I really wanted to emphasize everybody 438 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: has the power to choose. When you wake up, you 439 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: have a choice whether you want to have a good 440 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: day a bad day. The decisions you make in your 441 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: life lead to certain consequences that you know you just 442 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: have to deal with that time. So a big part 443 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: of the book and what I wanted to make a 444 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 2: point of was the power to choose. So because I 445 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: kept talking about that so much and the choices I 446 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: made in my life that led me to all these 447 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: different paths and you know the choices I could have made, 448 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: but I took this direction instead. It all we were 449 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: all talking about it, and it's like they said, Adrina, 450 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: you're talking about your choices so much and where you've 451 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: gone in your life, and we were like, well, choices 452 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: and then to the hills and back again. 453 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: It's an amazing title. 454 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: Thank you. 455 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: I know that you have had rough patches in your life, 456 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: one of which was obviously your marriage, because I'm kind 457 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: of in that zone too, and I start thinking about 458 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: my choices and then I look at my daughter, which 459 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: you have a daughter, and I'm like, this is why 460 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: I made every Like the universe had me make all 461 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: of these choices to lead me to this person, right 462 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: hereat Do you believe that? 463 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: I completely believe that, because if I didn't meet my 464 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 2: ex husband and go through what I did, I went 465 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: through a lot off and on for a long time, 466 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: but it was all for my daughter because she was 467 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: meant to be here and I love her so much. 468 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure you get it too. It's like, of course, 469 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: it's like a whole new love that you never knew 470 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: that you could love someone so much. And at the 471 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: end of the day, it's like, yeah, it was all 472 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: worth it because I have her and now we're good 473 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: and she's happy, and I made the right decision leaving, 474 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: and I'm happy with my choices. 475 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: We're back to choices and how old? How old is 476 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: your daughter? And what's her name? 477 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: Her name's Kira. She'll be six in June. 478 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: That is such a fun age. 479 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. Every year it gets so much 480 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: more fun and they become their own little people and 481 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: their personality and all the different characteristics they have, and 482 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: just like their outlook on life. You know, the other day, 483 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: she asked me a lot of questions about food. So, 484 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: you know, if we're making a ham sandwich, she's like, well, 485 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: what meat is that from a hamster? And I'm like, no, 486 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: we're not eating hamster. It's from a pig. And she's like, 487 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: why isn't it called a pig sandwich? You know, like 488 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: all these little thoughts. 489 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: And they're very valid too, Yeah, questions we should all 490 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: be asking. How did you go through? So I remember 491 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: going through doing my book and they were like, send 492 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: the chapters and the breakdown of each one, and I'm like, 493 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, how do I do that? When you 494 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: went through how many chapters? You were going to put 495 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: in and which one, like what stories each chapter would 496 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: consist of. Was there a lot of stuff that you 497 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: were like, this isn't going to make the cut, Like 498 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: this may be important to me, but it may not 499 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: write with a reader. 500 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we went through so many things, and we took 501 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 2: so much out and added different things and took chapters out. 502 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: Especially after doing audio and reading it out loud, it 503 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: changes everything. So we even had to change some things 504 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: around and there because it just didn't sound right reading 505 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: it out loud, right, so crazy? 506 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: Did you do that too? Yes? In fact, so you 507 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: mentioned your ghostwriter and I said this on tour. I 508 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: spoke about a ghostwriter, and the tour manager was like, 509 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: they were not understanding what that meant. So I just 510 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: want to put this out there for our listeners. Audrena 511 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: has a book. I have a book. Many people have 512 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: a book. The reason for the ghostwriter is Audrena wrote 513 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: her book. I wrote mine, But we are not writers. 514 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: I don't know how to format a book for the 515 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: life of me. Okay, So that's where the ghostwriter steps in. 516 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: They format your book, they make it a book, which 517 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: you and I, obviously I don't do for a living. 518 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I did not go to school to learn that. 519 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: Right, So we it's all of what we wrote, and 520 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: then they formatted it. So there's like the writing for dummies, 521 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: which I took the crash course. 522 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, the chapters like you were saying, But there was 523 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff too where I didn't necessarily want 524 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: to indulge about, like I don't. 525 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: Want to write. 526 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: I was like, I'd rather be more vague about this. 527 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to go there. And she's like Audrina 528 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: because they do their research and they're like, this is 529 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: what's out there. Because for a lot of the times 530 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: in the past and the media, I bit my tongue 531 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: all the time. I never really stuck up for myself 532 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: or cleared my name or said the truth. I was like, whatever, 533 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: Like the people that matter know the truth. If they 534 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 2: want to think that, I don't care, you know. I 535 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: think it was also from being on reality TV so long, 536 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: you just start not caring because nobody's really ever gonna 537 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: know the truth, or if they do, they might not 538 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: believe you. But in this sense, this was my op 539 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: opportunity to clear the air on what's been out there 540 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 2: and the truth. 541 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: That's so interesting that during the writing process. You were like, 542 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to dive into this, and someone had 543 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: to tell you, like, this is your moment, because I 544 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: actually had the opposite feeling. I was, this is my 545 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: one chance to really Now, looking back, a lot of 546 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: the shit that I wrote about I probably would not 547 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: have written about. But I think I may be overshared. 548 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean then, I'm sure your fans loved that. 549 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: You know, they probably ate that up and wanted more. 550 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: I think they do, just like I think when your 551 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: book comes out, which is the end of July, people 552 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: are finally going to get an unedited version of you. Yes, 553 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: and that's what people crave. Yeah, And I. 554 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: Was so I was like, Okay, if I'm going to 555 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: do this, I'm going to be open. I'm going to 556 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: be vulnerable. Here's my perspective. I'm not writing this book 557 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: to put anyone down. It's not about talking about other 558 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: people and what they went through, what I thought of them. 559 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: This is about me and the choices I made and 560 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: why and where it led me, and especially with my 561 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: marriage and what happened. There was a lot of gossip 562 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: and rumors and you know, TMZ would get all the 563 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: information from the court before I even knew what was happening, 564 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: and it was spread all over. So on top of that, 565 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure, like you get it. Like it's already hard 566 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: enough going through what you're going through, and to add 567 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: on top of that, like everybody's judgment and the media 568 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: and the blogs and the press and just like putting 569 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: their two cents and when they they only know like 570 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: a fourth of what really. 571 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: Went on, absolutely and they pick up the one thing 572 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: that is the smallest part of everything but makes the 573 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: most incredible headline, and that is so frustrating. 574 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So with this book, it's nice to be able 575 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: to clear that up and set the records straight. 576 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: I get a lot of questions about are you worried 577 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: about what your daughter will read? Do you worry about that? 578 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: That was something that was It's always on my mind 579 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: now and even with the Hills, you know, I was gosh, 580 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen, all in my twenties, I had no responsibilities. 581 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: I didn't care. We went out every night. The last 582 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: thing you think of when you're twenty twenty one, twenty 583 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 2: two is what my kids are going to think of 584 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: me one day? Or where is this show. 585 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: Going to lead? You know? 586 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: Right? But yeah, writing the book, I did have Kira 587 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: in mind, and the thing is all she asked to 588 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: do when she's older is google my name, and she's 589 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: going to see a lot of random stuff that's not true. 590 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: She's going to see some stuff that is true. It's 591 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: no secret that I was in a toxic relationship, and 592 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: it's all out there, so it's not a secret. But 593 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: at the same time, and I'm very honest with her 594 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: when she asked me questions and only giving her enough 595 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: information for her age and what she can handle. At 596 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: the end of my book, I did write her a 597 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: letter and a lot of it is about her and 598 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: like being a strong woman and being okay to walk 599 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 2: away from a toxic situation and not forcing yourself to 600 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: stay in it because you're a people pleaser or you 601 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: want to try to make things work, just because it's 602 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: like you have to do it's best for your child 603 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: and for yourself too. 604 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: So, Kira, you said that they they develop their little personalities, 605 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: right yeah, But I think they come exactly how like 606 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: they are who they are the second they pop out 607 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: of your cookie or however they come to the planet, 608 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: right yes, Ocean, I'm like, I will do my best 609 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: to teach her things. But that little girl will look 610 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: me dead in my eyes when I tell her not 611 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: to do something, and the look is like, go fuck yourself. 612 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: I mean, they definitely come out with a personality. It's 613 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 2: just as they learn more words and know how to 614 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: express their feelings and their thoughts, that's what it like. 615 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: Things come out of their mouth and you're like, what did. 616 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: You just say? Right? 617 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: You say that? 618 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: It really is. I said this over and over again 619 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 1: when I was in Utah because I was just like 620 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: in it being a mom. I wasn't working because I 621 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: was visiting family, and I was like, I just love 622 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: being a mom. Yeah, like it's just the best I know. 623 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: Do you want another? 624 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: Yes? I want another. I don't know how that baby, 625 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: the next baby will get here, but that's the plan. 626 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: I'm in the same boat. So we'll see. I do 627 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: want another one or two, but we'll see. You got 628 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: to meet the right guys, you know. 629 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: Or like, I don't need a guy at all, Send 630 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: me to the nearest sperm bank. 631 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, just get get a book and you get to 632 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: like choose, yes, who you want to have that baby with. 633 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: I guess shopping for a baby daddy. That sounds awesome. 634 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: And then I don't have to deal with them after 635 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: even better, what is your dating life right now? 636 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: Honestly, when I was on the show, I went on 637 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: that date with Sean Stewart, which was for the show, 638 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: that was only with cameras. But I haven't went on 639 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: like a real date in a long time, probably three years, 640 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen. 641 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: And what's the reasoning for that? Are you not ready? 642 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: I wasn't ready. I've went through so much healing and 643 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: with Kira and just going through so much personally that 644 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: it wasn't in a headspace to give myself or my 645 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: mind or attention to someone else. It wouldn't be fair 646 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: for someone. But I mean I have went out and 647 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: I have flirted and met guys, but like I haven't 648 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: actually went on like a proper date or been in 649 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: a relationship. Okay, but now I'm ready, Like I'm finally 650 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: at a good, peaceful place right now where I'm finally 651 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: open to it and I'm ready. 652 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: I think you're very smart. I'm in that zone, and 653 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm obviously very fresh into this like new single mom life, 654 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: and I'm very passionate about the topic of single mothers. 655 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: So you're doing a great job let me just tell 656 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: you that. But I feel the same way. And I said, 657 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: I don't have anything to give someone right now, and 658 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: everyone I said this on tour and everyone was like, 659 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: you have so much shit give. I was like, no, bitches, 660 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 1: I fucking know that. But yeah, if I have extra 661 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: time and energy, I want to place it into my 662 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: daughter or my existing relationships, not on someone new exactly. 663 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: And that's what I would always say. You know, I 664 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 2: had so many friends like you have to go meet 665 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: this guy, and I'd be like, I look at they 666 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: sell either picture and tell me about it. And I was like, 667 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: you know what, Like why am I gonna have to 668 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 2: get a babysitter leave her to go on this date 669 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: where I know it's not going to go anywhere? For 670 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: what a free dinner? I can make myself food. I 671 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: could take myself out like, I don't care, it's fine. 672 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: No, your outlook is like exactly like mine. But when 673 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: when you're in my or I'm in yours, like we 674 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: should go have a girl's night. That's easy. Yes, I 675 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: love girl time. So if you're still open to girl 676 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: time even though you're ready to date, I would love 677 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: to take you out on a date. 678 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,959 Speaker 2: Let's go on a date. I would love that. See 679 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: that's like fun and making genuine, like good friends that 680 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: because I kind of have an idea what you're going 681 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: through and bend through it. So it's hard, you know, 682 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: and it's hard being a single mom, especially when you 683 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 2: do start dating. It's like this is all new that 684 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 2: I'm learning now, Like when do you introduce your child 685 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: to this person? Or like you know, there's so many 686 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 2: things that run through my mind now where I'm like, Okay, 687 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: I have to really like read out all the guys 688 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 2: whoever I'm going to date, like they have to be 689 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 2: very special before I even introduce them to my daughter. 690 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, It's like the stakes are so much higher 691 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: now and you're going to think I'm a whack job, 692 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: But I actually brought on a PI who I literally 693 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: if I I'm even just talking even though I'm not 694 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: ready to date exclusively, if I'm just welcoming a person 695 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: into like my atmosphere, I run a background check. 696 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 2: I actually that's smart because I don't Yeah, if you're 697 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: going to bring someone new that you don't know anything about, 698 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: you want to know who's around your child. Can you 699 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 2: trust them? 700 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: Right? 701 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: And that's the thing from being on reality TV too. 702 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: It's like your circle grows becomes so small, and then 703 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: you do develop trust issues because at certain times you're like, 704 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: well do you really want to be my friend? Or 705 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: like there's so many blurred lines. And even dating on 706 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: the Old Hills, you know, it's like I would get 707 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 2: guys that were hot and they'd be like, let's just 708 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: date on your show, and I was like, well, you're good. 709 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 2: Look you know, I'll go on a date with you. 710 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 2: So it becomes like, okay, you want to use me, 711 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 2: I'll use you, Like, come on the show, we'll go 712 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: on a date. And then that's the end of it. 713 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: Well, and I think dating in LA is hard enough 714 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: as it is, even without cameras being on you. But 715 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: I like that you developed that you scratch my back, 716 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: I'll scratch yours. It's like, well then I'll just parade 717 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: your fine ass on TV like a show pony. 718 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 2: Say it works for TV. 719 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: You did bring a lot of hot men around, I 720 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: will say. 721 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, I tried. Yeah, there was one in particular. 722 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: I remember it was like I brought a lot of 723 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 2: models on male models like supermodels. They are very good looking, 724 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: but their intelligence level or right, we didn't have a 725 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 2: lot in common or any I don't know. 726 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: See, I have to have substance. I got to be 727 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: able to go deep with you. I need to be 728 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: able to talk about the universe, even if you don't 729 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: agree with what I'm saying. Like, I have to be 730 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: able to like, I can't stay surfaced with anybody. 731 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, like get deep debate, like find out why you 732 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: believe in these things, because I'm open to hearing other 733 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: people's perspective. You know, I'm not just till I'm not 734 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 2: closed off, but it's interesting to like to be able 735 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 2: to go back and forth and talk. 736 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I have to ask you about Justin, Bobby. Where 737 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: is he in the world these days? Do you even 738 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: know Justin? 739 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 2: He lives down here in Orange County? 740 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: Are you still friends? 741 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 742 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah. 743 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 2: The last well, he had a show, I think it 744 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: was either at the end of last year, I don't know, 745 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: like maybe six months ago in Huntington. So I went 746 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 2: to a show. And then it was his fortieth in March, 747 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: and I think he went to Vegas with all the 748 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 2: guys and then he was going to go to Tuloom. 749 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: We talked a little bit after that and then I 750 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 2: haven't heard from him in the last couple months. 751 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: Was that a toxic relationship or do you think you 752 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: guys were just young and trying to figure out like 753 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: where you wanted to be in life. 754 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 2: I think at that point we were just young trying 755 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 2: to figure out our life and dating. And I met 756 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 2: him before the Hills, like I brought him onto it, 757 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 2: so we had a relationship before, and then once he 758 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 2: was on the show, it totally changed our dynamic and 759 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: kind of changed everything. And then once he was on it, 760 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't get him off of it. There's no getting 761 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 2: Justin out of my life. So we've both accepted it 762 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 2: and we're just we're friends now forever. 763 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: But it'll never evolve into something more now that you're 764 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: both older and wiser. 765 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: We've talked about it. I don't know, you know, I 766 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 2: feel like I'll always have love for him, and he 767 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: always checks in on me and Kira, and if he's 768 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: around or I'm down in Huntington and Newport, like you know, 769 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 2: we might meet up. But Justin's a mysterious man. He 770 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 2: is a nomad, he's a gypsyam. He just loves not 771 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 2: having any responsibility, not answering to anyone and just doing 772 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: whatever he wants. He pops in and out of my life. 773 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: Right, he's a popper, I will say, take all of 774 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 1: that out of it. You guys would make gorgeous babies, 775 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: thank you. But you would make gorgeous babies with anybody. 776 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, look at you. 777 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 778 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: I had the best time having you on my podcast. 779 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 2: I know, let's grab lunch or dinner. 780 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: I would love it. 781 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 2: Please, yes, let's do it. 782 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 1: Congratulations on all of your success and it was such 783 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: an honor to have you on my podcast. You're a 784 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: fucking icon. Thank you, Thank you, babe. Have the best day. 785 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 2: Bye.