1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: It's a special headlines episode for the Almost Famous Podcast. 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: Today we are here to talk about something that's not 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: that fun to talk about, but it is a headline 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: and I'm sure viewers and listeners want to know what 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: we know about the Matt and Rachel situation. Now here 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: is what we know so far. We were kind of 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: brought onto this because of a post on Instagram that 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Matt did announcing their breakup. This was a sweet post, 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: but it didn't go into any detail and it really 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: didn't hardly say they broke up, other than one line 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: where he said something about helping them get through this 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 2: time as they have separated. That's all we know. However, 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: through some investigation this morning from our team, we do 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: have some sources that are close to Matt and Rachel 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: that Ashley is going to speak about, and then we're 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: going to get into some speculation and also some recent 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: updates what we've been seeing from Matt and Rachel over 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: the last few weeks that led up to this moment. 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: All right, so they have been posting NonStop on their 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 3: trip from London. Some people are saying that the trip 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: from London wrapped about a week ago, but they were 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: very happy seeming during this trip. He has been posting 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: pictures and videos of the trip. As of last yesterday evening, 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: it was like seventeen hours ago that he posted a 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: reel as of the time that I got on this computer. 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 3: If we want to go this dark deep Reddit. People 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: are saying on Reddit that Matt was leaving comments on 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: TikTok about Rings getting engaged, and some people were saying 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: that she was probably getting sick of him doing that 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: without actually proposing. Another rumor thought from Reddit is that 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 3: this is the type of sh and the trip to 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: Europe with no Ring during this season when everybody's getting 35 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: engaged was probably the final straw for her. Guaranteed she 36 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: was expecting some sort of proposal in London, and when 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: she didn't get it, she decided this was it all right? 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: Two valid thoughts. I think the things that they've been 39 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: posting seemingly are I want to say that it's mostly 40 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: been him posting this week of the two of them, 41 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 3: and it doesn't seem to be sponsored content because in 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: some relationships, especially in Bachelor Nation. I'm thinking about Chris 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: and Crystal, they had to do some sponsored posts before 44 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: announcing their breakup, because you know, you want to get 45 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: the money for what you've done and being together. We 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: get it, But this is sue. This is just really 47 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: out of the blue for us. Because one of the 48 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: last headlines that we read about them was that he 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: was planning a proposal. It seemed like it was just 50 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: around the bend. They have together for four years. That 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: is a long time to date without a proposal. Before 52 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: we move on, let me read the caption. This was 53 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: posted at six am Eastern time. People are like, maybe 54 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: Matt was on a run and he decided to post 55 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: it then, because people were speculating about how weird it 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: was that it was early, so early. Here's the caption. Father, God, 57 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: give Rachel and I strength to mend our broken hearts. 58 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: Give us a piece about this decision to end our 59 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: relationship that transcends worldly understanding. Shower our friends and family 60 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 3: with kindness and love to comfort us and remind us 61 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: that joy comes from you, Lord, heartbroken emoji. Now. My 62 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: initial thought was, oh, man, I want this to be 63 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: some prank on us, because I was reading so many 64 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: comments under the headline you saw. 65 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: That this morning in a text, It's like, what kind 66 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: of prank is a no, exactly, Like that would make 67 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: me more mad than than breaking up. 68 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: A prank to the public, I believe, But there was 69 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: a lot of this. There's a lot of chatter. It 70 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: was like every fourth comment was saying, could this be 71 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: a prank on us? But as much as I would 72 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: love to believe that, because I really really was rooting 73 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 3: for them, they got they went through so much together, 74 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: I can't imagine that he would use a prayer as 75 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 3: a prank. Like, he's not going to do a fake prayer, right, 76 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: no way. He started his season with the prayer with 77 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: the girls. 78 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: I respect a man of faith. I think this caption 79 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: is saying enough for us to know it's over now. 80 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: The speculation from Reddit, I don't think is completely unfair. 81 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: So I do want to ign knowledge that this was 82 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: a very tough time for them, and also respect the 83 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: fact that they broke up and that we don't really 84 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: we're not really owed too much information. Yeah, However, some 85 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: weird things that stood out to me Ashley that I 86 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: think are standing out to most people. They have done 87 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: a tremendous job at separating themselves from the show completely. 88 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: I mean they right away were you know, Matt especially 89 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: was like, I'm done, I'm moved on. This thing is 90 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: what it was. We mes together and the show is 91 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: going to have no association with my life. And that 92 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: is a okay, that is a very fine strategy. However, 93 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: the breakup post is a picture of them at the 94 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: Bachelor mansion, which is odd to me. 95 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: Yes, it's also the moment that they met. They're holding hands. 96 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: Maybe there's some symbolism to that. 97 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: It just feels okay. I guess personally, it feels like 98 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: an interesting choice, I should say, for this picture to 99 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: announce a breakup when they have honestly done so much better. 100 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: Since then, they have been posting or he has been 101 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: posting on social media that seems like nothing is going on. 102 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: And then, as you mentioned from the sources that we 103 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: have that are very close to Matt and Rachel, when 104 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: they woke up this morning and saw this post, they 105 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: expected it to be a proposal post so. 106 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: People can engagement announcement. 107 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, an engagement announcement. So people close to them had 108 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: no idea that things were happening. So with all that 109 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: being said, I, as Reddit does, I don't think they're 110 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: far off with there had to be some frustration with 111 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: the desire to get engagement and the jokes continuing about 112 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: the rings and a potential engagement and it never happening, 113 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: even with all these trips going on and all these 114 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: times together. I would imagine at some point that would 115 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: get frustrating, especially for the one that's like, are we 116 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: ever going to do this thing? 117 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: Like? 118 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: What am I doing? I'm getting older, We've dated for 119 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: a long time, are going to actually make this thing? 120 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: You know, the real deal? That would be my assumption, 121 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: my speculation, based on the clues that we have. I 122 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: have no context of that outside of the fact that 123 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: most people that knew them thought at some point here 124 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: soon they were going to get engaged. 125 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: Ironically, that was also the reason that he left the 126 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: show not engaged, because he just wasn't ready, and so 127 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: he was like, let's date in real life. Well, they 128 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: have been dating in real life for four years now. 129 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: I will say this, this might be advisor and be 130 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: listening if you've been dating somebody in your later twenties, thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties, 131 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: as the Golden Show. 132 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: Does, basically as you're saying, if you're not in high 133 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: school or college for. 134 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: Four years, and the two of you are on a 135 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: different page when it comes to the future, it's probably 136 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: time to step away. 137 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 138 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: Now, if you two are on the same page, you're 139 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: like not going to ever get engaged. We're not into 140 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: this marriage thing or you know, whatever that may be. 141 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: We're saving up money and we both know that the 142 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: timing will be once we get enough money together, all 143 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: that stuff. But if you're on different if you're on 144 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: different pages there after four years and this conversation has 145 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: not seemed to ever come together in a compromise or 146 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: into an excitement about what the future could hold, it's 147 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: probably time to move on. 148 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 149 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: Any thoughts as to the fact that she hasn't posted 150 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: This is six hours now after he posted. 151 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: From my experience, I would typically say the person most 152 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 2: hurt and most confused is the one that is hesitant 153 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: to share with the public. I mean, if you're confident 154 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: in this decision, you're sharing with the public. If you're 155 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: still in a place of mourning, healing, being a little angry, 156 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: you're not sharing this with the public because you probably 157 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: don't have nice Like you don't have this, it's probably 158 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: really hard for you to type out a caption that 159 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: says what you want to say and doesn't slam the person. Now, again, 160 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: this is speculation, that's my guess. If you're asking me why, 161 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 2: I think that's been my experience. 162 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: Has that been your experience with Lauren? 163 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: I can't remember. Actually, honestly that was. 164 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 3: You were so tied to the show still at that point. Yeah, 165 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: I must have been. You must have had aid good point, 166 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: you had pr around you. 167 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: Okay. 168 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: I just also want to mention that this eighteen hours 169 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: ago real that they posted, or that he posted, She's 170 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: not a collaborator on it. It was everything we ordered 171 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 3: at at CRISP Pizza. So I'm wondering if it was 172 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: sort of a collaboration with the restaurant. 173 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 2: For free pizza. 174 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's I don't know. They are food 175 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: bloggers really, so I don't know if they have to 176 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: disclose whether it's an ad or not. I'm sure a 177 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 3: lot of these places are paying them to eat there. Yeah, 178 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: I think it'd be super duper weird of him just 179 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: to post a funsie reeal with her eighteen twelve hours before. 180 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: If you're going if you need to post this real, 181 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: so you needed to post this reel last night he 182 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 3: posts it, why would he decide I'm just going to 183 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: announce the breakup tomorrow, wait a week. 184 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: It's very confusing, honestly. Also, I can't imagine a restaurant's 185 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: paying enough for you to say, hey, by the way, 186 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: we're going to hold this deal, like I'll just give 187 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: you the money back and pay for the pizza and 188 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 2: we're not going to post this because it feels inappropriate 189 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: at this time, like there's no way one restaurant is 190 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: paying enough to make it worth sharing, and then the 191 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: next day being like, oh, by the way, after that 192 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: piece of pizza, we broke up last night. But this 193 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: is not in live time supposedly, Well that's what it 194 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: feels like to the public, though. 195 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 3: I know I know that the public is going to 196 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 3: assume that like, oh, you poosted a restaurant, this is 197 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: probably where you ate last night. No, but even if 198 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: it was a week ago, that where they ate did 199 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 3: they ate there a week ago? It's still like, holy crap, Yeah, 200 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: like that is a fast turnaround for the breakup. But also, 201 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: if you have to post for the restaurant and you're 202 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: broken up, at least hold off the breakup announcement for 203 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: a week. 204 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 205 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: Uh, it's not a good look on the restaurant. Maybe 206 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: the pizza wasn't good. 207 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: The pizza looks freaking incredible. I'm so I'm thinking about 208 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: what I'm going to eat after this podcast after looking 209 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: at their Instagram. And you know how you mentioned earlier 210 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: that they're so like not necessarily they're not necessarily tied 211 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 3: to the show so much anymore. My nanny walked in 212 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: today and she was like, did you hear about Matt 213 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: and Rachel. She goes, I never watched them on the show, 214 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: but like, I love their food blogging. That's what how 215 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: she knew them. 216 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: Hmm, that's sweet. I'm it's stink. I mean, it's too 217 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: bad because they did have a long, a good thing 218 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: going and they had dated for a long time. They 219 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: obviously have a really rough start, not because of the 220 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: two of them, but just because of the timing and 221 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: what was going on the show. Obviously that was during 222 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: the time of Chris Harrison's departure from the show. You 223 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: kind I mean, I remember a conversation you and I 224 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: had on this podcast where we said, if you can 225 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: make it through these moments, it feels like you have 226 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 2: the strength to really do this thing long term. And 227 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: I never expected them to break up because four years in, 228 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: you're thinking they've both agreed that this is just a 229 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: path they're taking. Yeah, this was a shock this morning, 230 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: this morning to so many. Hey, that's all we have 231 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: for you. That's a special Headlines episode. We'll continue to 232 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: share any information we have as we go. Obviously, breakups 233 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: aren't the most fun thing to talk about, but they 234 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: are a big part of the headlines within Bachelor Nations. 235 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: So until next time, I've been Been, I've Been Ashley. 236 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: See you. 237 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 238 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.