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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, we are experiencing technical difficulties.

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Speaker 2: This is the Bobby Cast. Hey, welcome to a special edition.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna love this Bobby Cast. It's about one of

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Speaker 2: the best duos of all time, at least according to

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Speaker 2: me and well everybody else, Brooks and Done.

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Speaker 3: It's the story of how they came together.

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Speaker 2: It's so fascinating because Ronnie and Kicks are so different

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Speaker 2: in so many ways, but when they became Brooks and Done,

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Speaker 2: magic happened, or at least that's how we look at

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Speaker 2: it now. And what's been super cool is they've both

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Speaker 2: done the Bobby Cast separately. I know them both separately.

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Speaker 2: Actually I'm really good friends with Ronnie Dunn, which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: And so what I wanted to do and what Mike

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Speaker 2: Dee thought would be good, is to hear both of

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Speaker 2: their versions of the same story, because both are true,

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Speaker 2: it's just each of the version. I think you're gonna

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Speaker 2: like this. So my favorite personal memory of Kicks. I

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Speaker 2: played the Opry. This is one of the very first

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Speaker 2: times ever played the Grand Ole Opry, and he just

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Speaker 2: came over and walked in the door of the opry room.

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Speaker 2: Because those doors are always open. It's kind of the rule.

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Speaker 2: Unless you're naked, you leave the door open, and so

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Speaker 2: unless you change, the doors open and anybody walks in

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Speaker 2: and out backstage at the Opry.

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Speaker 3: It's really cool because.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how big it's a massive star or

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Speaker 2: if it's somebody like me, everybody just walks in and

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Speaker 2: says hi. So, first time playing, I guess it was

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Speaker 2: second time because the first time they have you in

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Speaker 2: the room with all of the people's quotes from their

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Speaker 2: first time. It was the second time I played, and

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Speaker 2: Kicks comes up and it's just like how to go

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Speaker 2: the first time, and I was like, it was great,

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Speaker 2: But in my head, I'm thinking that's Kicksbrooks. I wants

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Speaker 2: Pete beside him. He didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was gonna be your best memory.

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Speaker 2: Well, the p and one was like an interesting one,

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Speaker 2: and he was just like, man, you're gonna love it.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna love being a part of the family here,

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna love you know how.

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Speaker 3: People look out for each other at the Opry and

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Speaker 3: people are gonna send you mail.

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Speaker 2: And he was just kind of giving me a talk

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Speaker 2: when I didn't even know Kicks yet except for the

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Speaker 2: intimate way. I knew him at the Journal, but I

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Speaker 2: thought that was so cool. And then Ronnie lead singer

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Speaker 2: Ronnie Done, and I'm not sure how the relationship became

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Speaker 2: as like sticky as it is now. I was a

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Speaker 2: fan they came in together. But before that, the first

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Speaker 2: time I ever met them was at the Kennedy Center Honors,

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Speaker 2: which is a big show on CBS, which is a

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Speaker 2: big award where they give it to like five or

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Speaker 2: six people that have made a difference in culture in America.

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Speaker 2: And Reba was getting that award and Riba had asked

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Speaker 2: me to come out and introduce her and do a

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Speaker 4: Part of Meek.

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Speaker 2: Because Reba had like eight people there performing. It's weird

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Speaker 2: to say I was one of them, but I was

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Speaker 2: the first one. It was me, and then Brooks and

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Speaker 2: Dunn came out, Kelly Clarkson came out, Kristin Chenowi came out,

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Speaker 2: but I was the first one up.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling a.

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Speaker 2: Couple jokes, but before I went up, I was out

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Speaker 2: in the crowd and Ronnie was like hey, And Ronnie

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Speaker 2: was known to be tough, like doesn't take any crap,

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Speaker 2: fake and friendly. And Ronnie was like, yeah, my wife

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Speaker 2: Ronnie done talking to me right now. And so that

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Speaker 2: was my first time meeting him. I just remember the

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Speaker 2: heads up everybody gave me about him, like of all

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Speaker 2: of them, like kicks us very friendly and Ronnie's an

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Speaker 2: acquired taste. I've told him that a hundred times now

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Speaker 2: and it's now it's true. I love it about him.

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Speaker 2: And so at this point, like every few months, every

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Speaker 2: don't know, we're friends.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna go back and forth with each of

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Speaker 2: these guys and their stories on each of these guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean they started out, they broke up for a while.

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Speaker 2: I mean Ronnie had this whole thing where he just

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Speaker 2: hated radio. This is before we got here with like

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Speaker 3: Pretty hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Glad I wasn't here because I'd probably taken some strays too,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, it's a really cool relationship that I'm now

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Speaker 2: lucky to have with the greatest duo and country music ever.

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Speaker 3: And so let's get started.

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Speaker 2: Ronnie and Kicks both went to college but eventually learned

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Speaker 2: that what they studied wasn't something that they actually wanted

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Speaker 2: to pursue. Here's Ronnie done, Ronnie the lead singer, talking

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Speaker 2: about going to school to be a preacher and realizing

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Speaker 2: that wasn't for him.

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Speaker 1: Well, my mother's parents lived a block away, so I'd

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Speaker 1: go down there and they were super religious. My grandfather

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Speaker 1: and el Red, Arkansas, and you know, their deal was

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Speaker 1: his big thing was I was the oldest of sixteen grandkids.

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Speaker 1: He just goes, I want one of my one of

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Speaker 1: my grandson's place to be a minister. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's where I picked that up.

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Speaker 3: Later on, it sounds like you picked up both just

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Speaker 3: at different times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was trying to you know, you're young

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Speaker 1: and your impression, your sort of you know that stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I went off to you know the next thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, the lit and behold, I go off to Abilene,

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Speaker 1: Texas to to like study, you know, Bible and the ministry.

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Speaker 3: What does your dad say about that?

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Speaker 1: Yes, anything, he was a church guy. He didn't say

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Speaker 1: to him, for us to even think about college was

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Speaker 2: Was your dad resentful at all that he'd never got

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Speaker 2: a fair shot because he had to work in oil

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Speaker 2: and he felt like he was I think so I

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Speaker 2: got hurt a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And that was one thing I was afraid of

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Speaker 1: in I sensed, uhh extremely competitive, you know, uh for

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Speaker 1: for numerous reasons that we were going into but uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was and and he died before he died at

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Speaker 1: the age of sixty two, before I really got a

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Speaker 2: What'd your mom think about you going to be a pastor?

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Speaker 1: Harden Simmons ably and Christian all that. Yeah, she was

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Speaker 3: Is that because she thought it would make you a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just a better influence. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: not getting out there in the real world. So when

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Speaker 1: I told her, I was always taught by her. She

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Speaker 1: was very conservative couldn't dance anyth that couldn't stuff, We

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Speaker 3: Was she Baptist?

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Speaker 5: You said that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I grew up.

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Speaker 2: In a Baptist church and the other Baptist churches couldn't dance,

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Speaker 3: But I knew that was the Baptist thing.

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Speaker 4: That was almost a Methodist then.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so she never never saw a dance.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, she felt like that if you danced,

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Speaker 1: it led to sex and that was evil.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you firsthand it didn't.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you just to prove it until later

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you make it work with a little tequila. I

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Speaker 2: You go to school, and what's it like, your first

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Speaker 2: your life preaching the word of God?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I don't know if I would be specifically

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I learned real quick that that the second that

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: So you didn't even have the performance like bug whenever

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Speaker 3: Speak, what you think you're going to do with the

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Speaker 3: rest of your life?

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Speaker 4: No, No, you had to do it to get to

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Speaker 1: This is so weird. I didn't know this. I'm too

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Speaker 1: young to know this. To get licensed as a minister

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Speaker 1: that you get licensed and then you get ordained. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: if you're licensed, you have to you have to go

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Speaker 4: So this.

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Speaker 1: Pastor we had in South Texas Port Isabel had me

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Speaker 5: Of my life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how to go?

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Speaker 4: What do you remember? Horrible?

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Speaker 4: I remember thinking thirty minutes, thirty minutes? What you know? No,

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Speaker 4: I mean it was awful.

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Speaker 1: And it's the same same concept, you know.

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Speaker 4: No? No, no, I was wrong, I don't know. You know.

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Speaker 2: So you decide through experience you don't want to do this? No,

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Speaker 2: so that both then what do you do? You do

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Speaker 2: you just quit? Or do you have to call your folks. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I tried to.

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Speaker 1: I tried to like like ink my way over a

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Speaker 4: We would go out and play at BMW's.

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Speaker 3: Are you playing bass? Yeah, so you're not you're not

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Speaker 1: Well I would sing a few songs, yeah, But I

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Speaker 1: got to where I was a good bass player and

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Speaker 1: I could play by ear. That's another thing because if

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Speaker 1: go how to wing it because you're not going to

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Speaker 4: So I could play by ear.

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Speaker 3: Were you comfortable performing as a singer?

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Speaker 4: Not at first?

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I wasn't comfortable performing as a singer even

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Speaker 1: Well, after Neon Moon came along, that's the first time

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Speaker 1: without like shaken and did that.

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Speaker 2: So you're playing bass, you're singing some Yeah, you're going

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Speaker 2: to school. Yeah, I mean you didn't. You're not a preacher,

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Speaker 2: you're not a Christian psychologist.

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Speaker 4: College was not for me. I hated it.

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Speaker 1: I mean seven hours from graduating abnormal psych and statistics?

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Speaker 3: What's home as a kid?

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Speaker 6: Hey, Ty, the Bobby Cat will be right back. Wow,

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Speaker 2: Here's Ronnie talking about how he never really wanted to

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Speaker 1: No, I never I never wanted to be I never

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Speaker 4: Was he good? Uh yeah, he was good enough. He

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Speaker 4: Uh in Aberdeen, Texas. It was called that.

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Speaker 2: No, no, don't compare me to other They're always I'm

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Speaker 4: No you're not. You're definitely not limited to to this.

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Speaker 4: Uh you know, dynamic in space. No you're not.

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Speaker 1: I see, I see like doing comedy. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: Of TV shows. Now listen, climbing mountains.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back to the let's go back to your dad.

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Speaker 2: So he's he's got a radio show, and he's also

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Speaker 4: Huh?

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Speaker 2: So I'm assuming that he toured some at least regionally

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Speaker 1: He did, yes, when I was young, and then then

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and I still had had to go with that,

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Speaker 3: Did he always hold onto the dream even as he

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Speaker 1: Yes, I never ever showed any real interest in pursuing

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Speaker 2: I want to play this at kicks, sharing his story

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Speaker 2: Explain this winery to me, because I've never take a wine,

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, it was never a goal of mine to have

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Speaker 5: So I went in there and said, hey, Dad, here's

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Speaker 5: I said, I was hoping maybe you could co sign

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Speaker 5: But you don't want to be a big fish in

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Speaker 5: there's not a handful of bands doing any good. And really,

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Speaker 5: Oh see, I mean it makes sense.

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Speaker 5: And the second thing, you don't know a damn thing

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's Ronnie talking about when he realized he could

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Speaker 2: So am I think of you? I mean I just

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Speaker 2: to Oklahoma at age twenty two, twenty three.

444
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah yeah, And I fell right in with

445
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 1: these guys who were involved with Leon Russell and one

446
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 1: it was an architect, buddy Steve Bush was his name.

447
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 3: Are you playing bass with these guys?

448
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 4: Not with them?

449
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 1: No, But but I was playing with based with local bands,

450
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 1: A bunch of good local bands, and tons of places

451
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,199
Speaker 1: to play, you know, like like like here. When we

452
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 1: first moved to Nashville, there was no place to play.

453
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 1: Now is Broadway as rocking? So it was kind of

454
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 1: that deal. We would that people would club hob you know,

455
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: and go go hear bands, but not not many of

456
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 1: those guys from that group were involved in country at all,

457
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 1: but told us I had a big country scene or

458
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 1: Johnny Lee Wills and a bunch of other people.

459
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 3: So are you singing more?

460
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find whenever you started to realize you're

461
00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 2: actually better than most vocally? You know? Are you you

462
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 2: singing more than you were? Are you still just singing

463
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 2: a few playing the bass on most?

464
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the thing that that really broke it.

465
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 1: Urban cowboy thing kicked off like started and we were

466
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: hitting up to then like little, you know, little regional

467
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 1: clubs and just beer joints really, but that's I mean,

468
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: where else do you go if you want to be

469
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 1: a football player. I mean, if it's a canda, you

470
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: have to go to the gym, you have to you

471
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 1: have to play football, high school, junior high and all

472
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: that stuff, you know, So you go to these beer

473
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: joints and you do it.

474
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

475
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: There was a lady here, Mary John Wilkins, who had

476
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: work with Christmas Jofferson, that I visited with at one

477
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: point before it all started. Don't let me get you

478
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: too far off track, but uh, she called them skull orchards.

479
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: She said, She's I love the way he's seeing me.

480
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 1: He said, says, you're going to have to go get

481
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: some some experience in these skull orchards.

482
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 3: And I was like, what the what what just reps?

483
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 3: She just wanted to go do reps. And it's not a.

484
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 4: Pretty picture, right yeah, yeah, yeah, some day one.

485
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: So anyway, I actually went to Oklahoma and did that.

486
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: You know, I would call these places up and go

487
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: book for you know, three hundred dollars a night, two

488
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars a night if they had it,

489
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 1: and then played for the door in Texas now at

490
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: like I said, vfw's, we played for that and try

491
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: to build the crowds up over a few weeks or a

492
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: month and two and.

493
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 4: Whatever. Work.

494
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: We'd stayed as long as we could. And it's just

495
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: working out playing.

496
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even singing, training that muscle. Yeah right, I

497
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: mean you see, four nights a week.

498
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: So I'm in Tulsa and the urban cowboy movement thing

499
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: happens and they start building this massive club called Duke's Country,

500
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: and I mean huge it was. It was a converted

501
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: furniture factory and I mean there's nothing for three thousand

502
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: and thirty five hundred people on a night to be

503
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: there on the weekends Friday, Saturday, Sunday, sometimes Thursdays. A

504
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: guy from a steel player ball thing from a Gatemouth

505
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: Brown's band who's a blues player, came to a door

506
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: on one day and he said, I'm putting together a band.

507
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: He said, would you be the lead singer for it?

508
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: For our house band at Dukes. I'm like, no, yes,

509
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: I guess yes. So we put together a band and

510
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: kept a job for two or three years, several years.

511
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: This was a good run for a club stock.

512
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: Was that your first spot at being just I mean

513
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: you're the leadst Yeah?

514
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: Did you find he liked it more than you thought?

515
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? I loved it?

516
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 3: Did make you think of your dad?

517
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 4: Always? Always?

518
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 1: I always do anytime. I mean he's always you know,

519
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: that's always the image and you know the motive back

520
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: there that I think, you know, I just think that

521
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: it's like, why do I end up cosmically living my father's.

522
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 2: Dreams Kicksbrooks shared the story of how he was actually

523
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 2: discovered while playing out in Nashville. When you move here

524
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: to Nashville, how soon after that, after he has that

525
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: talk with you, like, wa ain't doing a bar but

526
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: you got to You got to.

527
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 3: Go because you're good enough to go. You just got

528
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 3: to go. You chose Nashville, obviously.

529
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 2: How long until you get here and actually feel like

530
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: this is home or that you can actually thrive.

531
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 5: Well, it took a minute, because not like it did

532
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 5: for a lot of people. I was fortunate. Jody Williams

533
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 5: and I were roommates in military school, and Jody was

534
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 5: running Charlie Daniels publishing company. His sister was married to

535
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 5: Charlie's guitar player, so he kind of got it in there.

536
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 3: Me and I could.

537
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 5: It was the first place I'd ever been, because I've

538
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 5: worked in New Orleans for seventy two nights before I

539
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 5: came here, that I couldn't take my guitar and a

540
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 5: handful of newspaper articles that I'd gotten and at least

541
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 5: let somebody I could play for somebody and get a

542
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 5: gig making some kind of money, like in the airport

543
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 5: kind of thing here now. But when I got to town,

544
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 5: this was the first place I'd ever been where I

545
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 5: couldn't make a living playing my guitar. I mean it

546
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 5: was everybody. Everybody was trying to do it. Yeah, it

547
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 5: was just there weren't any and there's not enough places. Yeah,

548
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 5: if there's a cover band or something, but everybody played

549
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 5: for free. Everybody's trying to get noticed, you know. I

550
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 5: mean I auditioned and played at the Bluebird all the time.

551
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 5: It's actually where, you know, like in the movies, I

552
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 5: got discovered. Bob Dole, who wound up managing Garth Brooks,

553
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 5: was working at ass Cap, saw me playing at the Bluebird,

554
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 5: invited me to his office the next day, introduced me

555
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 5: to Don Ghenton. Don got me, you know, my first

556
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 5: couple of cuts and gave me a publishing deal.

557
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the Nashville story here the Bluebird. I

558
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: know somebody sees you. Did you were you like a picture?

559
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: Who was being scouted? Were you knew the scouts were

560
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: in the stands that night?

561
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: No?

562
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: No, I really I didn't have really didn't have anything going.

563
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 5: And what I learned was my songs weren't that good.

564
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 5: I'd written a lot of songs. But and me and

565
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 5: David Lee Murphy were sweeping floors for Charlie Daniels. We

566
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 5: got thirty bucks a night for sweep sweeping the War

567
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 5: Memorial for the whole for the musicians Hall of Fame

568
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 5: is right now, I'm not kidding. And we worked security.

569
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 5: We worked at the barricade, behind the barricade to keep

570
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 5: people from jumping on the stage, and then we'd work

571
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 5: the dressing room, you know, when after the show was over,

572
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 5: making sure nobody got in there or anything, and then

573
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 5: we sweep the floors.

574
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: Did you ever almost give up? No, I shouldn't say that.

575
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 5: I mean there were probably times, you know, if you're

576
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 5: a songwriter, and I had you know, like four number

577
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 5: ones and quite a few cuts and had some you know,

578
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 5: good years. But it was ten years before I met Ronnie,

579
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 5: and there's there was valleys in there where I went,

580
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 5: I'm not making that much money. I got a couple

581
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 5: of kids. Now is this you know, where does this

582
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 5: go from here? You know, I'm not really hot right now.

583
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 5: I've got a publishing deal. But you know, three or

584
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: four hundred bucks a week whatever I was making, you

585
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 5: start looking around going, you know, that's what people do,

586
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 5: a lot of people throwing the towel. I never did. Fortunately,

587
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 5: you know, every time I just start to get a

588
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 5: little discouraged, something good would happen, and just enough to

589
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 5: enough to keep you in the game. You know, it

590
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 5: always I was fortunate that, you know, people believed on

591
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 5: Emmy here or there, even people that were doing advertising

592
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 5: jingles and that kind of stuff. I always had some

593
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 5: singing going on to and and I you know, I

594
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 5: had a couple of record deals that was on Capitol.

595
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 5: You know, didn't pan out, but people were aware. And

596
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 5: I guess that's how eventually, you know, Tim Duboi felt like,

597
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 5: you know, it's a good enough singer that me and

598
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 5: Ronnie Dunn might make some noise.

599
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: Here's Ronnie sharing the crazy story of how he ended

600
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: up moving to Nashville and recording his first album with

601
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: his band. You're singing in Tulis that you're regionally playing,

602
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: But when when do you go? I got to go

603
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: to Nashville or did someone say you got to go

604
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: to Nashville My opportunity?

605
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: She said, you know, for the for you to make

606
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: this happen, you're going to have to just you're gonna

607
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: have to jump out of the plane.

608
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: And he says, you're gonna get.

609
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: Af Did you not want to jump out of the plane.

610
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 4: I was afraid. Nashville scared me to death.

611
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: There's it's a feast or famine environment, you know, there's

612
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: no there's no middle ground here, and I did not

613
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: want to be get involved in the dark in the

614
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: dark side.

615
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: You pack up, you're throwing a car, you get a trailer?

616
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 3: What what's what's okay?

617
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: So Janine uh had had had been with her for

618
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: five years and uh a friend introduced us and uh

619
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: she and her ex husband are.

620
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: Not ex husband but past husband. Uh what do you

621
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 4: call it? Help me have any die? Yeah? Late late.

622
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: Said dead hell anyway, Uh uh she she was come

623
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: to find out, didn't know going in that she was

624
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: friends with June car Cash and Johnny Cash, that they

625
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: were best friends. Well he her husband, her late husband

626
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: had made the car one piece of time that John's

627
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: saying about. Okay, So she goes, I'm going to take

628
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: you to Nashville, and she said, that's that's somewhere are

629
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it? And and and introduce

630
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: you to John June he said, we'sco up their friends.

631
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say much of anything except that

632
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Eric Clapton's drummer back and upper step here. Eric Clapton'

633
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: drummer Jamie Oldecker, as a joke one night had entered

634
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: my name in the Marlborough Talent Roundup contest. Okay, so

635
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: you have to submit a tape.

636
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: You know, they get it. They called it back. She says.

637
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: I was a convenience store one night. I said, I

638
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: ripped one of the interest forms up and I sent

639
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: it in to him, and I'm like, oh, dude, this

640
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: is so uncool. We thought we were cool. Even at

641
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: the eleven we weren't. Weren't playing beard joints and starving

642
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: it down. So he goes, I did it.

643
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: I did it.

644
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: We're going anyway. So sure enough we get it. We

645
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: get into the regional part of the contest. Then you

646
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: go to whatever the next event, and it's bands fifty

647
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: five hundred bands all over the country, and then you

648
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: end up here in Nashville doing the final for that

649
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: and we want it. And I remember Ricky Skaggs was

650
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: it was a guest, I mean a judge. I can't

651
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: remember who else was.

652
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: You want it?

653
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: We want it?

654
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, you get like thirty three thousand dollars

655
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: and uh recording session with Barry Beckett at the time

656
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: and Scott Hendrix and we cut Bootscoot and Neon Moon

657
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: and one more hold up in some Honky Tom Dean Dylon.

658
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: Who is we?

659
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: The band had a band? Right, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry,

660
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 3: what's the name of the band.

661
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: They eventually became the Tractors and wow yeah yeah really yeah.

662
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: So it's just Bonnie Rae's piano player, I got clapses drummer.

663
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: We're all like, that's all We're in a band. Yeah yeah, yeah.

664
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: So you took that band originally cut a couple of

665
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: those songs, uh huh, but.

666
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: They weren't that band at the time. They were just

667
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: were just were just mean. Yeah, you brought them together.

668
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 5: Yeah. Wow.

669
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: So you make that record on thirty three thousand dollars basically, yeah,

670
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: three or four songs.

671
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: That's not a record, but songs.

672
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah right yeah.

673
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: What do you do with it?

674
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: Though? What do we do?

675
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? What do you do with the record?

676
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: Well? That shows uh no, I mean we thought we thought, okay, well,

677
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: at least we get a good, good foothold and uh,

678
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, getting to do some some stuff around it.

679
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: And we did the Marlboro put Us on tour, a

680
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: military tour, which was actually a blast.

681
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: It was massive stages.

682
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: George Straight, uh Godlye, Ricky Skaggs, Alan Jackson, everybody I mean,

683
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: we got to open the shows for for all those people,

684
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: and uh, we thought, well, this is the beginning of it.

685
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: We'll get a record down the way we go. Well

686
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: that ended, and then you know, three years later, I'm

687
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: out weed eating, you know, the fence at the at

688
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: the farm.

689
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 4: So what the hell am I doing here?

690
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought, this is my way to into it.

691
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: The same principle that works with you know the other

692
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: shows that we watched today. The voice that is not

693
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: that's not the ticket to the big time.

694
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: Right Kicks talked about what Nashville was like when he

695
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: first moved to town.

696
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: What was it like when you moved What was this

697
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: town like when you moved here?

698
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 5: I'll tell you the For me, I just wanted to

699
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: be a songwriter in this town.

700
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: That's really.

701
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 5: I mean all most sol songwriters have some dreams, and

702
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 5: you know, they play their songs. We've gotten some recognition.

703
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 5: There's exceptions to that, but most songwriters like to think

704
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 5: of themselves as artists. I mean I did, and I

705
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 5: had a couple of record deals before Ronnie and I

706
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: got together, but not because I was that great. I

707
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 5: don't know. But I started singing a lot of demos,

708
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 5: you know.

709
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: For stuff like that.

710
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 5: But the town the ability to My first publisher is

711
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 5: a guy named Don Gant, and man, he would hold

712
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 5: court every day. We'd write songs all day. But he

713
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 5: had been at Tree Publishing and was responsible for some

714
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 5: of the great careers from Roger Miller and Mickey Newbery,

715
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 5: got Sonny Throckmorton, people you may not be familiar with,

716
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 5: but people that Harlan Howard Horse, they were all at Tree.

717
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 5: I mean they owned independent publishing, but there were still

718
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 5: great publishing company companies like Combine where Christopferson and you

719
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 5: know Whalen and all those guys were too, a little

720
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 5: smaller company. But when we were done at the end

721
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 5: of the day, people would start polling in that door

722
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 5: and Don would always send out for a few cases

723
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 5: of beer. We just packing his office and start passing

724
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 5: the guitar around. Would really make you want to write

725
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 5: something special, because if that guitar came your way, r

726
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 5: Don said, did you write anything today? But at the

727
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 5: same time, even if I written something that wasn't that good,

728
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: he would find that one line in a song and go, man,

729
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 5: wait a second second verse, what was it you said you?

730
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 5: Because y'all hear that, it's like and all of a sudden,

731
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 5: he wouldn't make you feel like he might not tell

732
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 5: you it was a great song, because it wasn't, but

733
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 5: he would also make sure you knew that's what you

734
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 5: need to be. That's that's a great line. Give me

735
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 5: a whole song full of that kind of stuff. You know,

736
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: it's a great teacher. But also by the end of

737
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 5: by the end of the night, we're all well oiled.

738
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 5: Then then you know, Mickey Newberry or Ray Van Hoy

739
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 5: or some of those guys that Throckmorton who are just

740
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: writing this brilliance. They get the guitar, and then you

741
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 5: got the opportunity. Man, it was it was all up

742
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 5: and down the street and where is it happening kind

743
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 5: of thing, and I just I don't, you know, there's

744
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: so so much you know, I don't sound like an

745
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 5: old guy, but there's so much concrete where there were

746
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 5: little houses all the way down Music Row, and you

747
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 5: just wander up and down. You could hear it a

748
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: lot of times, up and down.

749
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: People just do it.

750
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it's going or somebody come running down

751
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 5: to your publishing company and go man calling down to combine.

752
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 5: You know, whaling's down there and they're singing, you know,

753
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 5: and Dad, that kind of stuff is going on.

754
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 6: The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to

755
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 6: the Bobby Cast.

756
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: Ronnie told us the amazing and wild story about meeting

757
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: Johnny Cash when he first moved to Nashville.

758
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: Did you ever go meet Johnny Cash?

759
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 4: Yes, he drove. Yes, she brought me in to meet him.

760
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 4: Where to his house in Hendersonville?

761
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 3: Are you nervous?

762
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm scared to death. I don't want to meet them.

763
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: And I know they're thinking, hey, you know she's bringing

764
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: you know, I want to be singer into my house.

765
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: It's just like what I would do with one of

766
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: my daughters, just like, ah please right. So June takes

767
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: her out, and you know just uh johnn had just

768
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: given June a blue on blue rolls Royce for her birthday.

769
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: You know.

770
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: So we rolled up to their house and all this

771
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: austin tatious stuff is outside and uh go in.

772
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: Nervous, Yes, more nervous that you walk closer? Yeah, okay, good.

773
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: It gets worse.

774
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: So the girls after after day one, you know, we

775
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: all stop and eat and all this stuff and John's

776
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: real quiet.

777
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: He's quiet at first, you.

778
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: Know, and she's intimida anywhere, right, And then under those circumstances,

779
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm going, you know, I don't I don't want to,

780
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want.

781
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: To be here like this.

782
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: So the next day, June and Janine go shopping and

783
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: leave me and John alone at the house. Well, there

784
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: were two big black recliners in front of this TV

785
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: like that on the wall, and he's sitting there watching CNN.

786
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: And I just sat down with a cover coffee and

787
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: I sat there. I said something going on in the news,

788
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: and he goes, I always watch it, always watch it.

789
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: He says, I'm an addict. And he says, I'll watch

790
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: the TV until the loop changes. He says, you know

791
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: that the CNN and all that stuff are on loops

792
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like no, and he goes, I just watch

793
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: it to loops whatever.

794
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: You know.

795
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: That was kind of the only thing I remember. He

796
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: just kind of didn't say much. He's like, you want

797
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: to go fishing, or you and you want to be

798
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: in music, nothing like that. So Janine gets back and

799
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: she's kind of pale. She's kind of like down, and

800
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: that's not like her because she's a chatter and uh,

801
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: finally we we went back to the bedroom and she

802
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: she I said, how did it go? And she goes, well,

803
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: June just gave she read me the Riot Act.

804
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 5: You know.

805
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: She goes, look, you know, because Rodney and Roseanne had

806
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: been been married, and the girls, Carlen and all of them,

807
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: and Junior had her struggles with John too, and she said, uh,

808
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not a not a pretty business. She goes,

809
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: you know, these these boys, she says, they're going to

810
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: act up on you. You know, they're going to get

811
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: out there and you know, theoretically do whatever. And she says,

812
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: you know, it's just not it's not a good life.

813
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: Even if he does make it. She said, the chances are,

814
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, wanted one hundred million that they even if

815
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: they make it, will they last. She says, you don't,

816
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't want that life. You don't have

817
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: to have that life. So Janie said, I'm you know,

818
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: that's just kind of bummed me out. And I said, well, okay,

819
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: let's let's go.

820
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 4: But we didn't.

821
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: We stayed and had a good time, but that was

822
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: just kind of what we were left with there. But

823
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: at the same time, June was kind enough to do

824
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: whatever they could to help, and they did. And half

825
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: the time, more than half the time, I would go

826
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: go up to take the rent or play the rent

827
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: six hundred bucks or something like that.

828
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 4: This house looked like something.

829
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: To Johnny's house. You would take the rent to Johnny

830
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: Cash's house. Yeah, and just drop it.

831
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: You have like a hole for the man.

832
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: They wouldn't take it. No, Junior, I said, jun Number,

833
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: run over and leave the rent. And she goes, Honey,

834
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: don't do that. She said, don't do that yet. You know,

835
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: there's no need for you to do that. We don't

836
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: worry about that anyway. So they wouldn't take it.

837
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 3: Did they ever take your rent?

838
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: No?

839
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: No?

840
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: How long did you live there?

841
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 4: A year and a half? Two years? No, two years?

842
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: You know. At this point, Ronnie and Kicks were both

843
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 2: doing their own things as artists songwriters, both living in Nashville,

844
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 2: trying to make it. Little do they know that behind

845
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: the scenes there was something going on, meaning some people

846
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: had some ideas about them. Ronnie shared the story of

847
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: getting a record deal as a duo with Kicks. I

848
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 2: get a record deal with Arista as a solo artist.

849
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: Well, I'm thinking as a solo artist and I'm still writing,

850
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: and Tim says one day, he goes, come over here.

851
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: He says, we're going to spend the day and I'm

852
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: going to take you to every publishing company in town.

853
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: And I had written, like I said, neon moon boots cooot,

854
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: hardworking man. She's going that kind of stuff. No one

855
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: actually super excited. And he goes, but I'm waiting to

856
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: take you to to Sony ATV for to Donna Hilly

857
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: and he said, that's where I want you. He said

858
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: that's in his period, but the best place in town.

859
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: So sure enough, she calls one day and says, hey,

860
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to give you a deal. She said,

861
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: I've been how does like you know, twelve hundred dollars

862
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: a month sound. I was like, I'll take it now.

863
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: And so I was set up as a writer in

864
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: a great spot. And Tim put me and Tim Kicks

865
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: together and I'm thinking, you've heard this story, but a

866
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: lot of people have. But Kicks is thinking, well, he's

867
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: writing songs with me for my solo deal. Unbeknownst to me,

868
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: he had been working on another duo deal.

869
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: At arist for him.

870
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: Yes, him and someone else, Yes, Tim, Tim Nichols, it

871
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: was who the first one was. And I heard that

872
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: had I not worked out, it was going to be

873
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: Leroy Parnell.

874
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: That's funny.

875
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: How about they were shopping Kicks to a lot of

876
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: really great so it was like, Kicks, you're half of

877
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: something great.

878
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 4: You're going to be Yeah, you're going to be buddy.

879
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: You know, I don't you want to be in a duo.

880
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: It sounds like he had three duos all.

881
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

882
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: You have to ask Kicks. I don't know. But he'll

883
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 4: tell the same story. He said.

884
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: Man, I thought, you know, he was writing for me

885
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: and I'm writing for him. So Tim comes in one

886
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: day and he has everything in his office lined up, yuh,

887
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: and uh plays plays all of our music together, you know,

888
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: and he goes, I think. I think with the first

889
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: song that we that we had written together was a

890
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: brand new man. Uh and working on my next broken Heart.

891
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: And uh what else?

892
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: You wrote that in a day or in a week,

893
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 2: like a couple of days together, but you stay together,

894
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: right for a couple of days.

895
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

896
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: I had never co written before, so I didn't know,

897
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, what the protocol was, and uh, we did

898
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: that put the records together, and did you know some

899
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: work on them individually ourselves.

900
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: Was there a creative chemistry that you felt then, or

901
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: was it did you just sound good? Or did you

902
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: compliment each other in a way that you hadn't before?

903
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 4: It just it felt good. I liked I liked what

904
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: he had brought to the table.

905
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: It was lost and found in a couple of songs

906
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: that were like almost Eagles progressive, and I liked that

907
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: that kind of I was really, you know, in my

908
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: creative in place, thinking if we were going to market

909
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: ourselves as kind of a southwestern east west of the Mississippi,

910
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, desert kind of and that's southwest deal.

911
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: I asked them both when they came to the studio

912
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: what their first impression was of each other after being

913
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: put together as a duo. Okay, so you guys got

914
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: together like thirty one years ago. I looked it up,

915
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: like exactly thirty one years ago. So you get put together, right,

916
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: Like it suggested that you guys should meet each other, right,

917
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: So who makes that suggestion?

918
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 3: And what's the first impression you guys have each other

919
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: when you meet?

920
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 4: Take it? KB?

921
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 5: Well, Jim Dubois called us both up.

922
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: He was starting the label Arister at the time Nashville

923
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: with Clive Davis.

924
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 5: He'd already signed Alan Jackson, so he didn't want another

925
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 5: boys singer. He was trying to get one of everything. Yeah,

926
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 5: and he'd signed Diamond Rio, he'd sign Pam Tillis was

927
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 5: his girl, total formula, Yeah, and the Jugs were breaking up,

928
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 5: so he was determined to get a do it.

929
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: He needed a new due exactly. And so you know,

930
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 3: he just said.

931
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 5: We literally met at lunch over a bad enchilada, and

932
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 5: he pretty more or less offered us a record deal

933
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 5: if you know, if it worked out, if we could

934
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 5: work together.

935
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: He didn't really say that. He said to go away

936
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 4: and write some songs.

937
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 5: And we did and he came that same week. We

938
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 5: wrote a brand New Man in the next Broken Heart.

939
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: That was Tuesday.

940
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 5: We wrote those songs on Thursday and Friday, demoed them

941
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: and took him back and he jumped up and down,

942
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 5: and then he offered us a record deal.

943
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: But when okay, you're right, brand New Man, do you go, oh,

944
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: we had this is something like we didn't even know

945
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: each other, you know, three days ago, but we wrote

946
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: brand New Man.

947
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: This is something we didn't know.

948
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 4: You we never know. You never know when you write him,

949
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 4: and until they you know, they're become hits. I guess

950
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty good.

951
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really did, because you know, and Ronnie had

952
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 5: that idea, I'm a changed man and and it's my

953
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 5: near miss on what if we changed that? But he

954
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 5: already had the I saw the light and I was baptized,

955
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 5: you know. And Ronnie came from Oklahoma. He hadn't been

956
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 5: hanging out in Nashville for ten years like me, so

957
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 5: he had a lot of fresh ideas that I think

958
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 5: we get bogged down and formula writing sometimes when you're

959
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 5: doing that for a living. So it was for me

960
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 5: as a writer, it was really a breath of fresh air, honestly,

961
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 5: to have some new ideas that you weren't just sitting

962
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 5: in a room and everybody passed around twenty times already,

963
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 5: and it was kind of it was fun. We wrote

964
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff early that I thought it had

965
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 5: some good energy to it.

966
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: Whenever Boots Scooting Boogie happens and the dance blows up

967
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: and everybody's that's you know what I actually learned two

968
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: step to Bootschoot and Boggie like a big part of

969
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: my life was being in Arkansas, and this girl named

970
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: Carrie Carter had the biggest crush on was like, I'm

971
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: a teacher had a two step and electric slide. By

972
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: the way, both of them, I learned a boot scoot

973
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: and Boggie the same song. And so when the boot

974
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: scooting boogie starts to be a thing, did you guys

975
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 2: come up with a dance?

976
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 3: Did you guys know it's going to be a thing? Like,

977
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: how does that whole thing happen? I wrote?

978
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: In Oklahoma, we played a big club there called Tulsa

979
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: City Limits, and uh, we had to do cover songs,

980
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: and you play club you know, bars and stuff or

981
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: they're one original stuff, and these people kept coming up

982
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: and asking us to play it again. So I kind

983
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: of thought, well, maybe there's something there. So we'd sneak

984
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: into the set late at night. But they were doing

985
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: those dances, and you know, the dance, all the line

986
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: dancing and all that stuff was already up and going,

987
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, strong in Oklahoma, Texas. But down there, if

988
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: you if you play a song or dude or play

989
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: in any of the clubs and they don't dance, then

990
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're out. So we had to had

991
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: to write songs that that kept people moving to write

992
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: and turn sold beer.

993
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: Now yeah, right, So.

994
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: I asked Kicks if he remembers the first song that

995
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: he ever wrote, and was like, wow, that's a hit.

996
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 3: Do you remember when you moved here?

997
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: Like and again, you're in the majors now because you

998
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: have all the great songwriters around you, which elevates at

999
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: least hopefully you to to get to their level. Do

1000
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: you remember the first like song you wrote where you

1001
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: were like, man, this is special, Like I have now

1002
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: reached a new peak. I've I've learned, and I've written

1003
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: this song. Do you remember the first great song you

1004
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: feel like you wrote?

1005
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 5: Honestly, I had quite a few number ones at that point,

1006
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 5: but I think I think Red Dirt Road was was

1007
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 5: a time when I really put the period on that song.

1008
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 5: Wik it's a freaking hit and it's it's really saying

1009
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 5: you know, Ronnie and I did that together and he

1010
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 5: actually we had it was just a place where we

1011
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 5: talked about really got real with each other, talked about

1012
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 5: where we came from, Like, you know, he was telling

1013
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 5: me about Elder Aid, I was telling me about where

1014
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 5: my grandparents was that's where it is, And somehow I

1015
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 5: was telling about driving those roads with my grandfather looking,

1016
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 5: you know, looking at at timber, you know what he

1017
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 5: was going to cut. And I said, man, that dirt

1018
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 5: was just so because I know it was up. That'd

1019
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 5: be a good name for an album. So now we

1020
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 5: got to write a song. And we kind of puttered

1021
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 5: around at it three or four times and never really

1022
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 5: got more than a line or two. And he got

1023
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 5: off the plane we were we had a gig and

1024
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 5: Sacramento and we flew to San Francisco and got off

1025
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 5: the plane and he handed me a cocktail napkin and

1026
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 5: it had those lines about you know, drank my first

1027
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 5: beer and you know, wrecked my first car toward all

1028
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: the pieces, something about Jesus and you know, life ain't

1029
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 5: just for high achievers. And he said, what do you think.

1030
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 5: I think it's freaking great, man. This is exactly what

1031
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 5: we were talking about. And I jumped on a bus,

1032
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 5: and you know, I wrote the pretty much the music

1033
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 5: and the verses. He had already told me about Rule

1034
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 5: Route three. You know, that's kind of when we kicked

1035
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 5: around where he came from, and he came and knocked

1036
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: on my bus at Terry McBride and said, man, let's

1037
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 5: go get a steak. And I said, you got to

1038
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 5: hear this song though, and we both just kind of

1039
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 5: slapped it up in here and and I couldn't wait

1040
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 5: to record it. It was it was. It was really

1041
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 5: fun to put it down too.

1042
00:47:54,000 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 6: Hey, Ty the Bobby Cast, We'll be right back. Wow,

1043
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 6: And we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1044
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: I asked Ronnie and Kicks why they think they had

1045
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 2: so much success and if they thought that they would

1046
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: be where they are today, because it's a really big place.

1047
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: Did they ever have this actual dream? Do they think

1048
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: it would come to permission? And here's what Kicks had

1049
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: to say.

1050
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: Did you ever just go.

1051
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: Dang, I'm famous and rich and then got lots of

1052
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 3: songs and it's cool.

1053
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 5: I quit doing that a while ago.

1054
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 3: You wake up months like, oh, good morning, up, babe.

1055
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: Is this pretty cool? I feel like I would if

1056
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: that was awesome?

1057
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 5: No, I mean, you know, you'd expect me to say

1058
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 5: all the humble things that you would expect me to say.

1059
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 5: And that's really the only answers that I have, because

1060
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 5: I'm really not that impressed with myself Honestly, the one

1061
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 5: thing you learn in Nashville. Whatever whatever your dream was here,

1062
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 5: whatever you hope to accomplish, which for me has been,

1063
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 5: has really exceeded any reality dreams that I had, you know.

1064
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 5: I mean, you've got to dream in your heart, you know,

1065
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 5: but that's kind of keeps you going. But to think that,

1066
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 5: you know, all that stuff would really kind of come true.

1067
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 5: What I realized that all the things that I do,

1068
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 5: play guitar, sing, you know, there's people that are so

1069
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 5: much better at it than me in this town. And

1070
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 5: if you there's not many people I think that are

1071
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 5: real with themselves that don't feel that way unless they

1072
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 5: are really the best singers here, the very best singers here,

1073
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 5: which I don't think that's necessarily my talent. I am. Really,

1074
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 5: I do feel real fortunate that my scene was so

1075
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 5: bad in the first five years of our career, just

1076
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 5: because I had just been playing and screaming and bars,

1077
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 5: you know, and you get on a big stage and

1078
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 5: I just had no control over over my air basically.

1079
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 5: And I really think talking on the radio for the

1080
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 5: last seventeen years has really helped me, especially when you're

1081
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 5: doing a four hour show and you know this forever.

1082
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 5: You can't just be huffing and puffing the whole time.

1083
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 5: You got to find your air somewhere else in order

1084
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 5: to have any quality of voice. And that started translating

1085
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 5: into my singing, and it's really made being on stage

1086
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 5: a lot more fun because I can kind of go

1087
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 5: through a whole show and feel like, you know, saying

1088
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 5: pretty good tonight, you know, which I wasn't feeling that

1089
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 5: way early in our career. Fortunately I had a great

1090
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 5: singer standing next to me, so you know, he pulled

1091
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 5: most of the weight, and in the studio I could

1092
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 5: do it. But getting on stage bouncing around and start

1093
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 5: huffing and puffing, it just wasn't very good. So I

1094
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 5: guess a long answer to a short question is I

1095
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 5: feel blessed, but I'm very humbled by the success that

1096
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 5: I've had with I guess what actual ability I do have?

1097
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 5: I think probably, if anything, I like to think that

1098
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 5: I've got a good ability to communicate and I'm not intimidated.

1099
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: By the stage at all.

1100
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 5: I'm not that great at it, but I got a

1101
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 5: lot of confidence.

1102
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: Here's Ronnie sharing his thoughts on why Brooks and Dunn

1103
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: had such a long and successful career. When you're doing

1104
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: these shows and they're selling out, and you guys are

1105
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: all crossing over even a bit into not just country music.

1106
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: We got so big, Yeah, at its most absurd time.

1107
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 2: Do you can you look back and appreciate it or

1108
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: was it all such a blur? No?

1109
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: We can look back and appreciate it, you know. No, No,

1110
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 4: you appreciate what you have.

1111
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: And just just from seeing other acts come along, you know,

1112
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: countless acts come along. It's like, here's the hardest thing

1113
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: in town. These guys are going to be monsters and

1114
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and just like boom boom gone. It's like,

1115
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: why are we not boom boom gone? I don't know,

1116
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: that's unspoken. Yeah.

1117
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: Did you ever have what they call, Mike, what is

1118
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: it called positive imposter syndrome where you felt like, you

1119
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: know what, we're not as good as some of these guys,

1120
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: yet we continue to climb places that they're not, like,

1121
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: we don't really deserve to be here.

1122
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: Do you ever feel like that?

1123
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, sincerely?

1124
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, why do you think that? What do you think

1125
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: the element was about?

1126
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 4: You two?

1127
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: What do you think it was?

1128
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't thought. We thought about it

1129
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 4: a million times I say me, we be and kicks.

1130
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 4: I mean when we've talked about it, I don't know.

1131
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, I mean I do.

1132
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes I said, I lay in bed by myself and

1133
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: just go it's just I mean, was it because we

1134
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: were involved with Clive Davis and Tim? I've asked him why,

1135
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: I said, what what made this thing work? And he goes, mister,

1136
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't have a clue.

1137
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 3: What about the songs?

1138
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: Right?

1139
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: Do you ever just fall back and go, yeah, I think, yes,

1140
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: this could be the song.

1141
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 4: Well they say it starts there, so it could be

1142
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 4: just what those songs were.

1143
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: And there's obviously other things that go into the stew.

1144
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 2: But if the songs are your meat.

1145
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 4: That's a that's a foundation of it all. That's that's

1146
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: a bar nutt.

1147
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: When I had them both in the studio together, I

1148
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 2: asked them about being friends of the Riba and what

1149
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: they thought their biggest song was now they're together, and

1150
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: if they ever felt like they were too big? And

1151
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: you guys have a longer relationship with Riba than I do.

1152
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm again a huge Riva fan and she's been great

1153
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: to me. But how did you guys become friends of Riba.

1154
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 5: Gosh, she hired us in.

1155
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: Three I guess she was the first tour that we

1156
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: actually got hooked up with and hired us. I think

1157
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: back then there were like four or five major tours

1158
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: straight Alabama.

1159
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 5: Who else since I think.

1160
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Riba. So she had a spot and

1161
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: gave us the opening spot.

1162
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 5: She gave us ten feet of stage in ten minutes

1163
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 5: and one hundred dollars a night.

1164
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we took a hundred bucks.

1165
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 6: Crazy.

1166
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 5: But a few years later we both kind of kind

1167
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 5: of got a good, good wave going and hooked up.

1168
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 5: I think in ninety six and maybe ninety seven we uh,

1169
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 5: we did some co headlining together. We had twenty one

1170
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 5: trucks and nineteen buses out on that tour. So for for.

1171
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: Looked good.

1172
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 5: Wow?

1173
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: What song is it? What gets the biggest reaction when

1174
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: you play it? Like? What song?

1175
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 2: Because you have so many hits, people albab react definitely

1176
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: everywhere you go. What's the one where you get people

1177
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: go boom, first lick they got it.

1178
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 5: I'd probably say, mam Marie, oh, come.

1179
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: On, that's a dance.

1180
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: JOm gotta be kidding me. Red Dough Road, you both

1181
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: wrote that, right, I heard kicks did the heavy lifting?

1182
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: Does that mean you come in on most of the article?

1183
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: Mus saw the bus one night after a show and

1184
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: he said, and he said, let's I've got this idea.

1185
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 4: And then did you have the title or whatever?

1186
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: And we started talking about and I said, well, I

1187
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: grew up like on a rule Route three and el

1188
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: Red or Arkansas kind of, you know, and uh, we

1189
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: talked about a lot of that stuff. And I'm not

1190
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: sure we didn't have the chorus well.

1191
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 5: On its way, so finding how we remember this stuff?

1192
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody writes song, right, we have a different story.

1193
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what really happened after he so this

1194
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 5: is my life and I'm.

1195
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: Sticking to it.

1196
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 5: Uh.

1197
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: And then I remember having to like take off and go,

1198
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: and we were it was a long long drive, like

1199
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: from somewhere like somewhere to Oregon.

1200
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 5: We landed in San Francisco and we had a show

1201
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 5: in Sacramento at our.

1202
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 4: See I'm in Oregon. You're on the other coach.

1203
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: You're on the right coaster. Okay, they're both over there,

1204
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 3: all right.

1205
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 4: So anyway there I am in Beijing.

1206
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 3: The buses take off.

1207
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: We got the next morning and kicks his buses parked

1208
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: out in front of us, and I see him get

1209
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: out and his hair is like it looks like he's

1210
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: been through a breaking World War three or something. Stumbles

1211
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: up on the bus with his guitar and he plays

1212
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: plays the song. The verses was like, good god man, Bingo,

1213
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: you hit it, boom, you can tell done.

1214
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 5: So what really happened? Ronnie wrote down the primarily those

1215
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 5: great lines from the chorus on the airplane flying to

1216
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 5: San Francisco. Had Terry McBride with you, and he hands

1217
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 5: it to me and goes, what do you think of this?

1218
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, shit, that is great. And we had had

1219
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 5: this discussion about where we grew up in the red

1220
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 5: dirt roads, and we decided to name our album that.

1221
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 5: But we said we got to write a song that

1222
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 5: goes with it. So I jumped on my bus, he

1223
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 5: jumps on his, and we head for Sacramento and I

1224
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 5: just grabbed my guitar, went to work. We get there,

1225
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 5: him and Terry go knock on my door and go

1226
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 5: let's go get a steak. And I said, cool, but

1227
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 5: you got to hear this first, so I made him listen,

1228
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 5: and as rare Ronnie done for him, he went I

1229
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 5: love it. That's freaking great. I went, what's wrong with you?

1230
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 5: Let's go let's see the steak, drink of beer, all

1231
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff.

1232
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: What was the one head that you guys had twenty

1233
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 2: three number I think you have twenty three number one

1234
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: or looked earlier. What's the one where you wrote and

1235
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: you went, that's the one, like you could tell immediately

1236
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 2: because I'm asking you the flip side of this in

1237
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: the second what's the one where you went, that's a hit?

1238
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 5: Red Dirt?

1239
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 4: Red Dirt was pretty close.

1240
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that was a moment where we

1241
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: were all sitting around and he played it for the

1242
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: first time and went, ooh, I think I think we've

1243
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: got it. They went in the studio and then it

1244
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, here comes that lick noo and then it

1245
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: just turned into a like boom.

1246
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 5: I couldn't wait to get home and play that for Mark,

1247
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 5: right because we had we had started gathering up some songs,

1248
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 5: but we needed that anchor and to go with the title,

1249
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 5: you know, and that's it's just that moment where you go,

1250
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 5: how we did it?

1251
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: So many variables, you know, if you contribute to that

1252
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: aha moment, and then a lot of times, it's just

1253
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: when you sit down in the studio not knowing where

1254
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: it's going to go, and the guitar player. Usually if

1255
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: the guitar player sit down and hit hit that lick,

1256
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: and he hit that intro lick.

1257
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 4: Pop up bump bump bump, bump bump bum, they're just

1258
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 4: turned into like a kind of an anthem, the kind

1259
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 4: of thing the way we went on.

1260
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: The other side of that, what major song, what big

1261
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: hit you guys had? It took forever and you're like, oh,

1262
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: let's think took forever to write. We didn't get it

1263
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: right and producing it the first couple of times, we

1264
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: didn't put it like what's the struggle song?

1265
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: They're all struggling. It's like having to go do your homework.

1266
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: It's fun to sing, fun fun to play.

1267
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 5: I think He'll Billy Deluxe was one that was a

1268
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 5: totally different song than Believe, but it was a song

1269
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 5: that never you know, barely got in the top ten.

1270
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 5: It might have made it, it might not even made

1271
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 5: top ten. But I watched our sales double and and

1272
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 5: it's some of those songs, just like Believe, people to

1273
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 5: this day go that song changed my life. Those songs

1274
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 5: that have the impact and that really make a difference

1275
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 5: in whatever. They're not always those ditties that slam up

1276
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 5: to number one on radio or something like that, but

1277
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 5: you feel a connection to your fans and and to

1278
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 5: your career that you're like, man, that's that one. That

1279
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 5: one got down there, that one.

1280
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 4: Did some good.

1281
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: You know the song that and I've often referenced on

1282
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: this show. We talk about songs that actually make you,

1283
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: like physically cry or feel something like cowgirls don't cry?

1284
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Are you still if that thing comes?

1285
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: I've heard that man.

1286
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 4: Look out the big cowboy, just like, oh, man, start

1287
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 4: wiping tears or what?

1288
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: That song still get I've heard the song ten thousand

1289
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: times and I hear it again and I don't I

1290
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: don't know if it's Riba being into two that pushes

1291
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: me over the edge, but are you kidding me? Then

1292
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: she sings it backed after her dad dies, I'm like.

1293
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

1294
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: There were a lot of Redheads that had had a

1295
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: part in that. Terry McBride has a Redhead daughter. I

1296
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: have two daughters in the red Heads, and then the

1297
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 1: Riba factor in there as well that song, and they're

1298
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: all into horses.

1299
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: Even after thirty years, Brooks and Dunn still going strong,

1300
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: playing shows in Vegas with Riba.

1301
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 3: They've been out on the twenty twenty four reboot tour.

1302
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: The Summer Kicks has got a crazy beautiful vineyard Nashville

1303
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: that's very popular.

1304
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: It's so popular.

1305
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: I wish that I drink wine. I asked him how

1306
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: he got into wine and how he knew he wanted

1307
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: to open a venue. How did wine did it be

1308
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: in your thing?

1309
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 5: Though? Well, from Louisiana, so I started drinking at a

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Speaker 5: very early age.

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Speaker 4: I like wine.

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Speaker 5: It's great. You know, it's great with food. That's a

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Speaker 5: big deal with wine is pairing. If you you know,

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Speaker 5: start doing that. There's certain because of the acidity and

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Speaker 5: red wines and white ones, and you know, a great

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Speaker 5: cabernet if you really like steak, it pairs great. One

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Speaker 5: thing that wine does like good ones, nice ones. You

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Speaker 5: know what makes a great wine. Well, one thing is

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Speaker 5: what's called a long finish. And if wine has a

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Speaker 5: you know, especially a Cabernet or a more lower great

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Speaker 5: steak ones, if they have a long finish, you like

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Speaker 5: to taste of that wine. You take a big sip

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Speaker 5: of that and you cut your steak, you taste that

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Speaker 5: wine with that steak, and it's just a great pairing

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Speaker 5: of food and drink. And that's all part of it.

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Speaker 5: You know, you really learn to pair. You know, some

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Speaker 5: like send you Vassi, a wine we may call red Fox.

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Speaker 5: Red is a great what I call a table wine,

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Speaker 5: and there's a lot of great Italian table wines which

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Speaker 5: are just great with cheese and crackers. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: just it's a great pairing that you know, just drink

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Speaker 5: a little wine. And it's also something fun with your friends.

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Speaker 5: You know, you cap cop a little buzz, you start

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Speaker 5: talking about some stuff you might not have been talking

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Speaker 5: about before, and just you know, it's it's nonsense, but

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Speaker 5: it's it's fun.

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Speaker 3: That as you do wine sell wine. But people go

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Speaker 3: out there and just to hang out too, rightther just

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Speaker 3: sit in the field.

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Speaker 5: Most people are drinking. They are, yeah, most of their

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Speaker 5: children are. You know, at least I do see kids

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Speaker 5: at five and six year olds. You don't sell wine

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Speaker 5: to the kids. That's we don't sell wine to the kids.

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Speaker 5: And it's it's hysterical online.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: The rare complaints that we get are because you know,

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Speaker 5: there's not enough things for their children to do.

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Speaker 3: At the winery.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we're trying to drink here, you know,

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Speaker 5: could you please set up a bouncy you know, house

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Speaker 5: or something for the kids so you know, we can

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Speaker 5: drink in peace.

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Speaker 3: There you have it.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you learned a few things about Brooks and Done

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Speaker 2: that you did not know. Their story is not typical

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Speaker 2: of how duos usually form. One from Texas, the other

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Speaker 2: from Louisiana. One had no desire to perform, the other

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Speaker 2: was planted at a young age. They each landed in

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Speaker 2: Nashville in their own.

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Speaker 3: Way, and the rest is history. Thank you for listening

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Speaker 3: to this episode. Like, if they do awards for this crap,

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Speaker 3: we should win one for this one. I've never said

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Speaker 3: that before.

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Speaker 2: This is like a great piece of us over the

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Speaker 2: years with the greatest country duo of all time, separately

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Speaker 2: and together and just retelling this.

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Speaker 3: This is like some filmmaker stuff. It was an Oscar

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Speaker 3: and Emmy, all of them.

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Speaker 2: And I say this, Yes, every award a potty is

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Speaker 2: that a thing can make it. I did not put

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Speaker 2: this together, obviously. I did the interviews, Mike did the

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Speaker 2: booking and setting up, but I didn't put all this together.

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Speaker 2: I've put the voice and the vo in the middle

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Speaker 2: of it. But so Mike, who gets the credit. If

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Speaker 2: there's a technical award for this one, that would be

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Speaker 2: Abby Anderson, Abby Anderson, Classic Abby Anderson. Good job, Abby,

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Speaker 2: really awesome. I hope you love the episode. We love

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Speaker 2: doing it, we love living it. And share it with

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Speaker 2: your friends if you don't mind. If you did like it,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty proud of this one. Be sure to subscribe

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Speaker 2: to the Bobby Cast wherever you're listening to this now.

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