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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The so called Moscow Mule

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Speaker 1: Mom has been granted a delay in her murder case.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the children's book author Cory Richins, a

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Speaker 1: mother of three who police say fatally poisoned husband Eric Richins,

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Speaker 1: then wrote a children's book about grieving. I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: The judge in Corey Richins's murder case, aka Moscow Mule Mom,

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Speaker 1: granted a delay in the trial so defense attorneys can

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Speaker 1: argue for seeding Assault Lake County jury in Summit County.

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Speaker 1: The judge paused all proceedings in Richard's murder case. Following

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Speaker 1: hours of argument on whether to bring a Salt Lake

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Speaker 1: Judge Richard Raysik ruled to keep the trial in Summit

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Speaker 1: County with Summit County gerrrs, despite defense attorney's concerns about impartiality.

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Speaker 1: Richard's attorneys want to appeal that decision, so they asked

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Speaker 1: the judge to delay the trial. It was set to

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Speaker 1: go April twenty eight. That's not happening. The prosecutors did

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Speaker 1: not oppose the motion. To appeal the judge's decision. Now,

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Speaker 1: let me explain the judge rule to keep the trial

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Speaker 1: in some county where the incident occurred with Summit County girrars.

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Speaker 1: The defense wants to bring in gerrrs from another jurisdiction

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Speaker 1: for impartiality. That happens a lot. They want Girrars brought

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Speaker 1: in from Salt Lake County. What happened in the case, now,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, after authorities allege that she poisons

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Speaker 1: her husband dead, the father of her children, by giving

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Speaker 1: him a moscow mule laced with a huge od a fentanyl. Now,

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Speaker 1: according to reports, what is found in her room the

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Speaker 1: written script. She's trying to cram down the throats of

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Speaker 1: family to paint her as innocent. Ouch. That's terrible when

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Speaker 1: the cops ransack yourself and they find you tampering with witnesses,

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Speaker 1: and I hate when that happens. I'm Ansy Grace. This

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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here

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Speaker 1: at Crime Stories and on Serious sexem one eleven. I

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Speaker 1: just want you to hear Corey Richardson. I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: She's a sex successful realtor. She flips these mega mansions

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Speaker 1: and makes all kinds of money. She's got a husband

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Speaker 1: who's not cheating, working, supporting the family, beautiful children, and

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Speaker 1: beautiful home. Why this, but I want you to hear

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Speaker 1: it from the horse's mouth. Take a listen to Corey

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Speaker 1: Richins describing why she wrote a kid's book. Listen to

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Speaker 1: Crime Online. I'm new to all of this.

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Speaker 2: Corey Richins appeared on Good Things You Tah, a lifestyle

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Speaker 2: TV program, to talk about her book on grief. She

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Speaker 2: says she's done lots of research to help not only

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Speaker 2: Richinds husband and father. Richard says what has helped her

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Speaker 2: family are the three seeds.

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Speaker 3: The three seeds, you know, connection, continuity, and care.

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Speaker 2: Richard says, it's important to make sure the spirit of

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Speaker 2: your lost loved one is alive in your home by

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Speaker 2: bringing up memories, talking about the person, and doing things

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Speaker 2: that person loved to do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well, her husband, her dad, husband's memory is

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Speaker 1: going to be coming up a lot in her murder trial.

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Speaker 1: But what about this script has been found in her

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Speaker 1: cell And wait a minute before I go any further.

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Speaker 1: Elaine Ardivius is with US Senior crime reporter with the Messenger.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it true that the woman has just come forward?

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Speaker 1: I believe she worked for the family, a housekeeper who

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Speaker 1: sold the Moscow mule mom Corey Richins, who allegedly sold

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Speaker 1: her the fentnel she used to poison her husband. Hasn't

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Speaker 1: that just happened?

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Speaker 4: Yes, they do have texts between Corey and the housekeeper

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Speaker 4: where Corey is requesting sentinel or she's requesting, you know,

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Speaker 4: the heavy drugs more of and so that has come

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Speaker 4: out that the housekeeper basically was dropping off drugs at

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Speaker 1: That h housekeeper's future test stimony does not jive with

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Speaker 1: the story that this grief stricken mom is writing a

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Speaker 1: grief book to help her children to keep the husband's

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Speaker 1: memory alive. You know what, she can say it better

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Speaker 1: than me. Let's listen to more of Corey Richards from

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Speaker 1: Crime Online.

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Speaker 2: Richins, appearing on Good Things You Talk, said, it's important

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Speaker 2: to explain to children that just because a parent, in

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Speaker 2: Richard's case, the father isn't present physically, that doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: He's doing these things with us, and he's you know

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Speaker 3: here for birthdays, and he's here for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Richard says, Now it's just comforting for her children to

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Speaker 3: Dad is still here. It's just in a different way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, murdered according to prosecutors. I'm about to jump into

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Speaker 1: the ransacking of Corey Richard's cell and finding the script,

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Speaker 1: but I just want you to hear more of Corey

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Speaker 1: but no, that's not going to happen. That said more

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Speaker 1: again from the horse's mouth. Listen our friends, crime alone.

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Speaker 2: Richard says, it's the family traditions that are hard for children,

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Speaker 2: first day of school, helping the child cope with what

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Speaker 2: they're facing. She said in her appearance on Good Things

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Speaker 3: It's been a lot of peace for my kids. You know,

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Speaker 3: to really remember that in the back of their head

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Speaker 3: that they're never alone.

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Speaker 1: My rear end, doctor Bethany Marshall joining me renown psycho

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Speaker 1: Ana was joining us out of la at doctor Bethany

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Speaker 1: Marshall dot com. Never alone, according to police, She's there

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Speaker 1: a reason that they are alone.

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Speaker 5: You know, Nancy sociopaths like her, They do evil things

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Speaker 5: and they try to undo them. They do and they undo.

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Speaker 5: So she kills their father and then she tries to

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Speaker 5: undo it by saying, oh, it's okay, He's always with you. Also,

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Speaker 5: this woman tries to monetize every thing, you know, She's

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Speaker 5: always trying to make a buck, always trying to get

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Speaker 5: more money. I think that's one of the motivations for

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Speaker 5: killing her husband. Get it out of the way so

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Speaker 5: she can make more money. I think the children's book

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Speaker 5: is just another way to monetize his death.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I want to pick up what

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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall just said about the money. Elaine Otivias

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Speaker 1: is with US Senior Investigative Crime Report with the messenger Elene.

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Speaker 1: I'm about to jump into the manuscript, as they are

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Speaker 1: euphemistically calling it. Sees from her jail sale, but there

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Speaker 1: is so much money motive. They had a prenup, but

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Speaker 1: she didn't like the pre nup. He had a very

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Speaker 1: very successful business that he built up from scratch. Then

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Speaker 1: there was the issue of flipping this mega mansion. She

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Speaker 1: wanted to buy this mega mansion and then flip it.

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Speaker 1: He opposed it, and then he dies and within seven

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Speaker 1: days or so, she flips the mansion and then throws

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Speaker 4: That's right, she repeatedly is acquiring money. In fact, when

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Speaker 4: her husband died, the sister of the husband went to

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Speaker 4: the house and Corey was already taking things out of

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Speaker 4: the safe. There are things missing that cannot be accounted

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Speaker 4: for that's considered valuable and assets. So over and over

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Speaker 4: there is a pattern of her trying to get more money.

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Speaker 1: You know. Donna Kelley is joining me. Former Utah Senior

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Speaker 1: Deputy District Attorney, lawyer for Crime Victims Legal Clinic. She

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Speaker 1: also helped form the Utah County Sex Crimes Task Force.

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Speaker 1: Donna Kelly, I know that after my fiancee was murdered

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Speaker 1: I wanted one thing. I wanted his baseball that he

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Speaker 1: and I would practice with throw pitch back and forth.

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Speaker 1: And I still have it. I see it every morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious about your reaction to immediately immediately after

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Speaker 1: whatever assets she can find.

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Speaker 6: It's very disturbing, Nancy. It is very disturbing, and she

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Speaker 6: to give things to his family as opposed to Corey Richards.

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. In addition to the jury argument,

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Speaker 1: prosecutors want an orange notebook admitted into evidence, saying it

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Speaker 1: bears directly on Corey Richinds the Moscow Mule Mom's actions

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Speaker 1: regarding Eric rich and her husband's death. They say the

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Speaker 1: first five pages of the notebook contained the defendant's handwritten

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Speaker 1: I want to get to what was found in Corey

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Speaker 2: The Walk the Dog Letter is a six page handwritten

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Speaker 2: letter that Corey Richins wrote for her mother. Prosecutors claimed

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Speaker 2: the letter instructs her mother and brother to give false

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Speaker 2: In the letter, Richards wrote, quote this comes down to jealousy,

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Speaker 2: money and Eric's partying that they don't want to acknowledge,

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Speaker 2: and sadly, an accidental overdose unquote. The prosecutors have asked

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Speaker 2: Defense attorney Skyla Zarro filed a brief accusing the prosecutors

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Speaker 1: Okay, Elaine ativis tell me what everything about the so

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Speaker 4: The Walk the Dog Letter, first of all, is named

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Speaker 5: But this letter really sort.

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Speaker 4: Of talks about you know, it's almost like this what

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Speaker 4: part of a fiction mystery novel. Okay, what pet She

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Speaker 4: says that it's part of a fiction mystery novel.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy, Elaine out of Eus. You just made

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Speaker 1: me a very happy former prosecutor. So they are addressing

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Speaker 1: the Walk the Dog six page letter that was found

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Speaker 1: some kind of a seizure. Never had a seizure before

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Speaker 1: odeed on drugs from Mexico, claims it is for a

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Speaker 1: book she planned to write. How is that part of

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Speaker 1: a book she planned to write, Elaine out of Eus.

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Speaker 1: What does that have to do with the book? What's

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Speaker 1: the plot of the book.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's what's interesting. So the they released the trend

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Speaker 4: explains that this she's written a sixty five page novel

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Speaker 4: and it's all about, you know, from the detention hearing

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Speaker 4: and she and her father go to Mexico where they're

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Speaker 4: that this is part of a sixty five page novel,

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Speaker 1: Law school admissions test manual. Now, the damning letter appears

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Speaker 8: Well, moscow mule is one of my favorite beverages. But

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Speaker 2: This evidence gathered revealed Corey claim she didn't have access

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace Moscow mel Mom, Corey Richins's

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Speaker 1: My phone can barely work. I've got so many emails

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Speaker 4: You know, they they have googled, you know, how do

432
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Speaker 4: I clean up this or whatever, and somehow they always

433
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: forget about the phone. The phone has the ability to

434
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Speaker 4: be tracked because everyone has like find my phone, or

435
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: you know, the cell towers.

436
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Speaker 1: They can see movement.

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00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: They can you know, when when investigators, they have forensic investigators,

438
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 4: when they subpoena your phone and they start going through it,

439
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 4: they can see when it turned on, when it moved,

440
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 4: all of these things. And so I think, you know,

441
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: we will find out more about it in court when

442
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: forensic investigators explain what they found. But thus far we

443
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 4: know that the phone was in use, so which puts

444
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Speaker 4: a crack in her story already a big crack.

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Speaker 1: Because you've got your phone, you can call nine one

446
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Speaker 1: one immediately. And does that mean she wasn't really even

447
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: in the children's room when she's right there watching the

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Speaker 1: husband die. Dona Kelly joining me former Utah Senior Deputy

449
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Speaker 1: District Attorney. This jurisdiction, Dona Kelly, the deleting, the text

450
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: and the emails, the phone movements, it reminds me significantly

451
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Speaker 1: the Alex Murdock double murder prosecution, where he was charging

452
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Speaker 1: the murder of his wife Maggie and son Paul. The

453
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: forensic evidence showed that he was at the dog kennels

454
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Speaker 1: where his wife and son were murdered riddled with bullets.

455
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Speaker 1: Because of his cell phone and because of another cell

456
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: phone video it placed him there. The phone then followed

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Speaker 1: him to his vehicle. The phone traveled with him and

458
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Speaker 1: his wife, Maggie's phone, then her phone is thrown out

459
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: of the car, linked with the navigation system in his vehicle.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was a suburban. It shows every move

461
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Speaker 1: he made from letting the windows up and down, to

462
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Speaker 1: the speed, to the ignition turn, you name it. Technology

463
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Speaker 1: is a very powerful tool and the prosecutor's arsenal Donna Kelly.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. And the reason that jury's loved this kind of

465
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 6: evidence is it's very objective. It doesn't have a bias,

466
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 6: it doesn't have an agenda, it's just there. And so

467
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 6: that evidence is very powerful to a jury, and it

468
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 6: also shows the consciousness of guilt that the person has,

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Speaker 6: for example, in deleting messages, you know immediately that sort

470
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Speaker 6: of thing, So it can show you know, the movement

471
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Speaker 6: and the messages that went in and out, but it

472
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Speaker 6: can also show consciousness of your own guilt.

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Speaker 1: HM, you're right, So to stay well. Then began looking

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Speaker 1: at other circumstantial evidence contemporaneous around the time of the death.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.

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Speaker 2: After Eric Richinds's death, Corey Rigins hired a locksmith to

477
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Speaker 2: open Eric's safe. Between one hundred and twenty five thousand

478
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: and one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars was reportedly inside.

479
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: When Eric Richard's sister told her sister in law she

480
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Speaker 2: didn't have the rights to those funds, Corey Rigins punched her.

481
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Speaker 2: Eric Richins had also opened a living trust and placed

482
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Speaker 2: the trust as his life insurance beneficiary instead of Corey.

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Speaker 2: We now know Corey had purchased at least four life

484
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Speaker 2: insurance policies on Eric Richins, with death benefits of over

485
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Speaker 2: a million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Doctor Bethany Marshall renounced Psycho Allen's joining us out

487
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Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills. I tell you one thing. If my

488
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: husband David Lynch goes out and takes four life insurance

489
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Speaker 1: policies out on me, uh uh and uh, We're splitting

490
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: up at that moment, and I'm taking the twins period.

491
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Speaker 1: You can have everything else except those twins for life

492
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Speaker 1: insurance policies.

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Speaker 5: What you know, Nancy, When I when I listen to

494
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 5: this story, I so I think of Corey Richards as

495
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 5: suffering what I affectionately term the Casey Anthony syndrome. Every lie,

496
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 5: every maneuver, every motive is so flagrantly transparent, and from

497
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Speaker 5: a mental health perspective, she's probably suffering from what we

498
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 5: call cluster b cluster B is when you have sociopathy.

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Speaker 9: Are you saying cluster cluster, cluster like a cluster bomb? Okay,

500
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Speaker 9: So when you have sociopathy, borderline personality disorder and potentially bipolar,

501
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Speaker 9: I don't even.

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Speaker 1: Know what you're saying. Blah blah blah blah blah. She's gravy,

503
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: she wants money. What are we talking about? Cluster what?

504
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 5: Okay? So sociopathy, they lie, they can, they manipulate, they

505
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 5: have parasitic lifestyle. So there you have the money motive,

506
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 5: borderline personality disorder, there's clinging and rejecting behavior. They can

507
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 5: plot and plan forever, bi polar where they get in

508
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 5: such a certain type of mood where they feel no

509
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: guilt or consciousness or remorse. So she has all these

510
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 5: things swirling around, and that's why this story just gets

511
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 5: crazier and crazier. And like Casey Anthony, everyone from the

512
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 5: outside looking in can say, that's a lie.

513
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 6: That's a lie.

514
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: That's a lie, that's a lie. How can she not

515
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 5: know that we know she's lying? And that's what happens

516
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 5: with these kinds of personalities. They don't see in themselves

517
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: what we see in them. And that's why the family

518
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 5: went over to check the safe. That's why they caught her,

519
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 5: is that they had been observing this for a long

520
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Speaker 5: long time.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's more to the money motive. And I can't

522
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: wait for doctor Moroney to jump in on how many

523
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: dead body sees autopsied that are dead because of money motive.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 2: Investigators say Eric Richins was looking into a divorce. He

526
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: had recently changed his will and life insurance from his

527
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: wife to his sister. Two friends told detectives that Eric

528
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: Richins was worried Corey would kill him for the money

529
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Speaker 2: and wanted to ensure that his kids were taken care

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Speaker 2: of financially. Even as Corey Richins was promoting her children's

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Speaker 2: book about grief on local television, investigators were looking into

532
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Speaker 2: the couple's troubled past.

533
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Speaker 1: I've watched that interview a million times and never once

534
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: did this woman shit a tear. Doctor William Maroney, renowned

535
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: medical examiner. The love of money the root of all evil.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that, Maroni.

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00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 7: It's really a good reason. It's at the top of

538
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 7: the list. Money is. It's like worse than love and

539
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 7: infidelity because you can just enjoy it all by yourself.

540
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 7: It's sinful, and it's in every culture, and it's in

541
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 7: every country, and whether it's male or female, it's always

542
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 7: about the money. And what I'm really worried about somebody

543
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 7: this reckless. People will reproduce this and what happens. Fentanyl

544
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 7: is so dangerous. She could have accidentally killed her children.

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00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: You're right, the three little boys in the same Huh,

546
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: what if one of them are taking a sip of

547
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: that moscow mule?

548
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 7: Even if they would have touched fentanyl on the counter,

549
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 7: or there was fentanyl dust and something like that is

550
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 7: just to poison somebody with fentanyl when they're small children

551
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 7: in the room. That's insane.

552
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: Sentanyl dust. Remember morony, doctor moroney. We just covered the

553
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: case of a little one year old boy who died

554
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: in a daycare from sentinyl in New York dust. Other

555
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: key rulings in the past days, the judge ruled any

556
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: statements Riches made to Detective Maynard and Detective Woody while

557
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: her house was being searched cannot be used in the case. Why,

558
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: He says rich and statements would be protected by the

559
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: Fifth Amendment right to remain silent since no one at

560
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: that juncture had yet given her her Miranda rights ouch.

561
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: In the same ruling, he says info found in her

562
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: white iPhone can be used at trial. She gave detectives

563
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: her password. The defense had argued the iPhone would be

564
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: protected under the Fourth and Fifth Amendments. The judge found

565
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: police had a warrant for the phone and that Riches

566
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: gave the phone to detectives. What more do we know

567
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: about Eric Richands's death? This is not the first time,

568
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: according to LA Law Enforcement that r Richards tried to

569
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: murder her husband. Listen to in the investigative reporting team

570
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: at Crime Stories.

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00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day twenty twenty two, Eric Richards becomes violently ill

572
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Speaker 2: after suffering an allergic reaction after having dinner with his

573
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Speaker 2: wife of nine years, Corey. He breaks out in hives,

574
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: can't Breathe passes out after using his son's EPI pen

575
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: and taking benadrel. When Eric wakes up, he calls his

576
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: business partner, Cody Wright to let him know what has

577
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: just happened. Then, without Corey knowing, Eric changes the beneficiary

578
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 2: of his will and his power of attorney, replacing his

579
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 2: wife Corey with his sister. Legal paperwork suggests that Eric

580
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: believes Corey might kill him for the money, and he

581
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: wants his children to be financially secure.

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Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me of Caltman Laurie Valo. Her husband

583
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: was afraid that she would kill him, so he changed

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Speaker 1: a lot of his financial setup away from her, and

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00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: she killed him anyway, had him killed anyway, not knowing

586
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: that she was no longer his beneficiary. That said, this

587
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: reminds me of another incredible case. And you know I

588
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: couldn't make this up. Do you remember the name Dahlia Dippolito,

589
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: reportedly a former escort who marries the victim. She sets

590
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: up a hit. She sets up a shooting hit to

591
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: kill him and get money in a town home. But

592
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: of course she sets it up with an undercover agent

593
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: and he's got it all on tape, planning to kill

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Speaker 1: her husband. Dahlia Dippolito so apparently she tried to kill

595
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: him before in a poisoned Starbucks latte of some sort.

596
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: Didn't work, so she tries again. According to him, he

597
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: lives the The undercover agent stops the hit, but they

598
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: pretend to her this is a sting that they're coming

599
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Speaker 1: to tell her her husband has been attacked and he's dead.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: Meryl Streep, I love you, lady, but move over because

602
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: Dahlia Dippolito may beat you out for your next oscar.

603
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: Listen to Dahlia Dippolito reacting to niece her husband is dead.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sergeant Ramsey. I'm the one to call you. Thank

605
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: you for comment. I'm sorry to call you.

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00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 7: Listen, we had to report of a disturbance at your

607
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 7: house and there were shots fired as your husband Michael, okay,

608
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Speaker 7: I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killed. He's

609
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Speaker 7: been killed.

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Speaker 1: Right now.

611
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 7: We need to get the can't look man, we have

612
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Speaker 7: to do our job.

613
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: If you want the finest killer, we need you to

614
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 2: calm down.

615
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: Need you to go with these defectives.

616
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 7: Okay?

617
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 6: Does he have enemies?

618
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 7: Is there anyone who would want to hear? Okay, you

619
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 7: would want to hurt him withiness? Said he saw a

620
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 7: blackmail running from me. I can't let just need them them.

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Speaker 7: I cannot do this right now.

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00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 5: I can't.

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Speaker 1: I need you.

624
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 7: I need you to take there to the stations. I

625
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 7: can't man, go with these detectives. If you want to

626
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 7: help your husband, okay, if you want to help your husband,

627
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 7: you need to go to the station with these gentlemen

628
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 7: and tell us everything.

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Speaker 2: You know about who he knows, who's connected to.

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Speaker 7: Don't worry. We've already taken care of dogs with animal

631
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 7: control for right now. Everything's under control.

632
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: There's more, but I just listen to that all day.

633
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: Did you hear that, Donna Kelly? That was Dollia Dipolito

634
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: when she's told her husband's dead, he's not dead.

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00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 10: Uh.

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00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: Later at the police station, they're questioning her and he

637
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: walks by. He goes Hi, you tried to kill me.

638
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 10: But in this case, now we're getting this very long

639
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 10: letter for obviously Corey Rich's Moscow Mule Mom is trying

640
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 10: to convince her family to lie about her husband traveling

641
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 10: to Mexico to get these drugs.

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00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 6: Yes, that evidence is going to be explosive and very

643
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 6: powerful in front of the jury, and compounding the actual

644
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 6: letter is also the evidence that she's trying to manufacture

645
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 6: excuses for writing it. She says, at first it was

646
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Speaker 6: written for her lawyer's benefits, so it's privileged. Well, that's

647
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 6: obviously a lie because write in the letter she refers

648
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 6: to her lawyer by name, you know, tell my brother

649
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Speaker 6: to go talk to the name of her lawyer. So

650
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 6: obviously it's not written for the lawyer. But also then

651
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 6: now she had to concoct a new lie because that

652
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 6: one didn't fly. So you have not only the letter

653
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 6: with the instructions of how to lie, but you have

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00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 6: her excuses for writing it, which compounds again shows her

655
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 6: consciousness of her own guilt.

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00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: While she's having some type of a seizure, guard search

657
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: her cell find a copy of a bombshell letter instructing

658
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: her own mother to fuel conspiracy theories that her dead

659
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: husband had a drug problem and overdosed. He was at

660
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: work every day, working trying to pay for that mega

661
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: mansion they were living in. In the letter, she reportedly

662
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: asked her for the mother to get her brother to

663
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: concoct a story. The husband, a year before his death,

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00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: secretly told the brother he would get pain pills and

665
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: fentanyl from a ranch hand in Mexico. She wrote that

666
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: she would also say her husband asked the caterer, an

667
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: alleged drug dealer, to hook him up with more, when

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00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: actually that housekeeper caterer says that she, Corey Richins, is

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00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: the one wanting the money. So this is an incredible

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Speaker 1: development in the case. And oh, by the way, I

671
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys knew this, but justin Boardman

672
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: in the dahliat Dippolito case. She then claimed something similar

673
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: to what Moscow Mule Mom is saying. She claimed that

674
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: was a script. It was all a setup. They were

675
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: all acting for a reality show. The way Corey Richards

676
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: is saying, Oh, that letter telling everybody what to say

677
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: about my husband being a dope head, that was part

678
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: of a manuscript. That's a ticket, a manuscript of a

679
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: book I was writing, It's not going to work.

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Speaker 8: No, that is a lot of drama, if you will.

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Speaker 8: It also reminds me of a case that was investigated

682
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 8: a couple of cubicles over from my own, and that

683
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 8: was the Susan and Josh Powell case where Susan had

684
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 8: put a letter in her work file at work that

685
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 8: if she disappeared or died, that Josh probably did it.

686
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 8: It's very interesting to me to see these sort of

687
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 8: people get these intuitions that they might get off by

688
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 8: their significant other like he did.

689
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: As well, he really did. And you can read the

690
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: entire letter at crimeonline dot com. But it goes on

691
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: to say, if you could read it, it says, I

692
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: need Eric. Eric told Ronnie he gets pain pillars from Mexico.

693
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: You may have to testify to this. Romney should have

694
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: gotten text from Eric talking about getting high. I mean,

695
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: it goes on and on describing what would help her

696
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: if they said it on the stand.

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Speaker 5: Nancy, can I please jump in, Well know, not only

698
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 5: is she witnessed hampering, but this is one more example

699
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 5: of criminals in broiling their families and their crimes. They

700
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 5: don't just take themselves down, they take everyone else down

701
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 5: around them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you read it, it goes on to

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00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: talk about how you may have to testify to this,

704
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: maybe something like he gets high every night and won't

705
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: help take care of the kids. It just goes on

706
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: and on and on.

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00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 5: Remember Casey Anthony accused her brother and her father of

708
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 5: molesting her, and you know all these things. There's this

709
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 5: thoughtless attitude, there's this callous disregard for family members. So

710
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 5: the family members are used just as much as she

711
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 5: used her husband, she used the press, she used her

712
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: own children without any thought to the consequences.

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00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: The so called Moscow Mule Mom has been granted a

714
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: delay in her murder case. In other rulings, the judge

715
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: said statement Richinds made to detective of driscal can be

716
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: used at trial. The defense had argued a Driscoll knew

717
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: Richins had an attorney and questioned her without her attorney present.

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00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: The judge says Richins was not in custody at the

719
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: time and had invited the detective into her home and

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00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: expressed willingness and gratitude to be able to speak with

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Speaker 1: detectives and did not ask the officers to leave. So

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Speaker 1: therefore the Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination would not apply.

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Speaker 1: That faithful evening has ruined the lives of the Richings children.

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Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds. Goodbye friend,