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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where Super Bowl sixty is off

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Speaker 1: and running. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Moscone Center.

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Speaker 1: It's surrounded by some of my favorite people on earth.

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Speaker 1: Nick Shook, the man who I haven't even been able

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Speaker 1: to talk to except for on air, my favorite kind

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Speaker 1: of relationship, Jordan Rodrigue next to him and sitting in

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Speaker 1: for the top of the show. What a nice treat

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Speaker 1: for the news. Will Gavin from talkSPORT, who frankly is

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Speaker 1: part of the NFL Daily family worthy.

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Speaker 2: The best to last. Clearly that's what he was doing.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, thank you for having me. This is amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's it's all because we just want to self promote myself.

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Speaker 1: Will and Ross Tucker will be calling the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: for Talk Sports, So if you're in a position to

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Speaker 1: listen to that or watch that on YouTube, check that out.

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Speaker 1: But that's not till Sunday. And we got a whole

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Speaker 1: big week ahead, So many cool guests lined up throughout

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Speaker 1: the week and especially today. Justin Jefferson is coming up

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Speaker 1: on the show, Jackson Dart is coming up on the show.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to talk to Mac Jones baby, and

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Speaker 1: who else do we have? I believe Brandon Graham is

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Speaker 1: going to join us as well today too, and then

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Speaker 1: a lot of great guests throughout the course of the week.

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Speaker 1: But just setting the scene, let's start with Shoo, because

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Speaker 1: you've been in San Francisco now for a few days.

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Speaker 1: You've been embedded with the Patriots. I want to get

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Speaker 1: some takeaways from your Patriots in a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: just sort of the overall how's the Super Bowl been,

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Speaker 1: because frankly, I just got off a plane and we

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Speaker 1: came straight here from a plane.

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Speaker 3: Well, first off, welcome to San Francisco, where it's probably

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Speaker 3: a little bit chilly compared to what you were dealing

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Speaker 3: with in La the warmer tenths in February. For me,

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Speaker 3: the opposite came from five degrees to sixty five. I've

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Speaker 3: been sweating walking around the city all week, but there's

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Speaker 3: been a buzz in the air.

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Speaker 1: It's very exciting.

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Speaker 4: There's sign all over the place.

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing pop up shops going up on every corner

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Speaker 3: of every block. You can find a coffee shop anywhere.

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Speaker 3: There's people all over the place.

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Speaker 5: It's a great time.

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Speaker 6: He's excited.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he's in a city where there's a coffee shop

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Speaker 8: Right now.

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Speaker 2: I think having the Pro Bowl in town this week

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Speaker 2: has made a massive difference to how busy it's been.

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Speaker 2: Like we normally come in on Monday and there's not

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Speaker 2: a huge amount going on, and instead it's just been

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Speaker 2: already three absolutely manic days. It's absolutely packed here today

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Speaker 2: on Radio Row, and it's just ramping up and ramping up.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'm going to be ready to get

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Speaker 2: to as high as we're going to be by the

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Speaker 2: time it gets to sick.

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Speaker 1: It's a good call about the Pro Bowl, which has

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Speaker 1: lots of problems. It's almost all problems at this point.

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Speaker 1: Even my son, who annually just loves the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: and the Pro Bowl games, somewhere around the third quarter

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Speaker 1: of that flag football game, started to get angry and

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Speaker 1: actually was like searching on my computer about like are

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Speaker 1: they going to cancel the Pro Bowl? You know what's

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Speaker 1: he misses the games. There's a lot going on. But

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Speaker 1: the big positive is, yes, you get some of the players,

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Speaker 1: big time players earlier on in the week and you

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Speaker 1: see that so to set the state at stage. Every

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Speaker 1: Radio Row kind of has a similar vibe.

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Speaker 9: But you know, overstimulated, it's overstimulated iHeart has set us

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Speaker 9: up with a beautiful stage here, but like as we're

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Speaker 9: as we arrive, like Aaron Jones just standing there, Christian

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Speaker 1: And that's just how Radio Row and this week is

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Speaker 1: gonna be. So we're really looking forward to it. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna do in this show just a little bit of news,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get some takeaways from Nick, and we're just

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Speaker 1: gonna enjoy our time with Bill Gavin while we have

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Speaker 1: it early in the week.

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Speaker 2: To come on your show.

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Speaker 1: And now that's I mean, you got a long way

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Speaker 1: to go. Let's just start with the the news about

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Speaker 1: Drake May and his shoulder that weirdly we haven't really

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Speaker 1: it's potentially more of an issue than maybe the Patriots

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Speaker 1: have been leading on. You don't just sit out of

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Speaker 1: practice for no reason. I don't think you said he

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Speaker 1: Let's actually listen to Drake May in one of his

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Speaker 1: many already media appearances so far this week.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm feeling great, you know, I'm so fortunate to

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Speaker 10: be out here with these guys. You got full with

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Speaker 10: your practice, you knows, felt good, you know, on Monday,

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Speaker 10: and looking forward to get backut there today and tomorrow

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Speaker 10: and Friday and having a normal week.

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Speaker 4: So looking forward to that and feeling good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And my guy, you know, he seems he seems loose,

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Speaker 1: he seems happy, He seems like a young man. I

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Speaker 1: just every time I look at Drake May, it just

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Speaker 1: strikes me that, like he is a child.

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Speaker 2: It should be the youngest call back to win the

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Speaker 1: Because right so, But just the like even as an

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Speaker 1: a very young vibe. Being around the Patriots a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts on the injury shook in just what you've

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Speaker 1: seen out of May this week. I was a little

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Speaker 1: but he seems he seems fine now. He seems like

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Speaker 4: He seems very built for the moment.

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Speaker 3: Actually There's been a gaggle of media surrounding him anytime

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Speaker 3: he seems like he's handling the entire pressure of it,

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Speaker 3: the notoriety of it, really well. I'm most curious by

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Speaker 3: how somebody turns a corner on a plane when it

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Speaker 3: So I'm happy that he had the opposite effect, and

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Speaker 3: then he seems to be trending toward playing. It's funny, though,

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Speaker 3: that we look at the Super Bowl and we think

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Speaker 3: about the other quarterback on the other side was the

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Speaker 3: one that was all worried about injuries throughout most of

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Speaker 4: Now we got Drake May involved.

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Speaker 3: I think both of them are going to be fine,

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Speaker 3: but it's something that we have to continue to track.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like a big storyline or something that

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Speaker 3: they're really concerned.

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Speaker 4: About right now.

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Speaker 1: It's something we won't really know until the game happens,

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Speaker 1: and even then, you're not, like, there's no question obviously

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Speaker 1: But I think there probably was a moment after that

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't want to speculate, so I'll now

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Speaker 7: proceed to speculate, like the attrition and the reps that

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Speaker 7: he's taken over the course of the season. He mentioned

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Speaker 7: it flat out before Super Bowl media week even began,

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Speaker 7: a week before even the gap week between the AFC

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Speaker 7: Championship game and this whole media circus and all of that.

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Speaker 7: He was talking about how many times he had thrown

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Speaker 7: they're going to try to rest him a little bit,

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Speaker 7: especially in that gap week, because he has the reps

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Speaker 7: he doesn't need to get any more rapport. The game

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Speaker 7: install actually starts this week, the week of the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 7: so it's fresh in players minds. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 7: at best it's probably just a rest scenario because he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because this is the gap we four Other than

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Speaker 1: The lay you're concerned for me is maybe he's a

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Speaker 1: really hard. I don't know if you saw that, Will

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Speaker 1: like He's just like, this is really hard. And everyone

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Speaker 1: and I'm getting killed. It was I can't I can't see,

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Speaker 1: you can't see, you can't grip the ball. They were

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Speaker 1: going against the wind. It was it was a very

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Speaker 1: unique scenario. But he has played his worst football in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. It is the most difficult defenses that he's played.

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Speaker 1: It's been difficult conditions. And what you said in terms

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Speaker 1: not even making bowls half the time, Like that thing

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Speaker 1: So should I be worried about my guy?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 8: No, I don't think you should be worried about your guy.

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Speaker 2: Told each about him being young, but the maturity I

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Speaker 2: think he showed in both that moment and then in

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Speaker 2: the moment that's been much talked about, the naked boot

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Speaker 2: and for all of them, they're like, I didn't really

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Speaker 2: but apparently he and Josh McDaniels discussed it on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: He said he wanted to do it, Josh gave him

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Speaker 2: the autonomy to do it, and it was his decision, yeah,

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Speaker 2: to not tell anyone. So I think he is a

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Speaker 2: level of confidence that is exactly right for this moment.

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Speaker 2: I think he is going to approach it in all

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Speaker 2: the right ways. And I was amazed by his maturity

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Speaker 2: every time, Like we only see him an opening night.

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Speaker 2: I've not been back and forth to Santa Clara to

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Speaker 2: go and hang out with all the patriots like like

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Speaker 2: shuk has.

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Speaker 6: But I'd sound a little better about that.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm absolutely fine with the bus every day.

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Speaker 2: That's that's not a problem.

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Speaker 1: I forgot that. You know, will Gavin boots on the

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Speaker 1: ground for days, we can tap into that. Let's listen

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Speaker 1: to Mike Donald talking about Sam Darnold and his workload

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Speaker 1: throughout the week in the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 12: Well, we'll see today, We'll see today. It's definitely gradually

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Speaker 12: increasing by the day, So some days more than others.

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Speaker 12: But he's in a great spot. And no, he's really confident.

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Speaker 12: We'll see how today plays out. Not tally sure how

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Speaker 12: many throws or what percentage throws. I can't really give

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Speaker 12: you right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we think Donald, if he was healthy enough

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Speaker 1: to have that sort of performance in the NFC Championship,

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried, even in the slightest. And I think

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Speaker 1: he's been kind of embracing the media night of it all.

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Speaker 1: I've appreciated that, Like Mike McDonald definitely lets his guys be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they are because they've kind of been let loose on

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Speaker 1: Some other injury news. Robert Spalane has talked openly the

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Speaker 2: My wife just texts me she's obviously seen a photo

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Speaker 6: This is Radio row in a nutshell.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear from you, Shook, some take. I'm

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Speaker 3: You know, I think it's interesting that this is a

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Speaker 3: They have a coach who has a history of playing

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Speaker 1: To lose or whatever that, what have you, they sure

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Speaker 4: Lot in themselves right now. And it's because they all

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Speaker 8: I really shook mentioning Doug Maroon.

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Speaker 2: So I've been saying this last few days that coaching

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Speaker 2: I mentioned Todd Downing already, Ashton Grant and the quarterback

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Speaker 7: One of Rabel's best talents is hiring people.

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Speaker 6: He's very very good at it.

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Speaker 7: And we joked at the beginning of the year that yes,

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Speaker 2: And as Rob Gronkowski told me earlier, the offensive cold

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Speaker 8: So there you go.

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Speaker 7: That's for But I love I love all these guys

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Speaker 1: With Josh McDaniel's I love that. Hold hold that thought

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Speaker 3: The second one is this team is such an interesting

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Speaker 1: I like, look at these two teams and it really

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Speaker 1: Just it feels like there's like less. I just I'm

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Speaker 7: Like to the most interesting, like truly interesting, the way

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Speaker 1: You even like ball, like because see Seattle, I don't

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Speaker 2: Again exactly, let's don't forget the biggest story on the

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Speaker 7: I think I'm so happy you did. I'm happy you

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Speaker 6: Half of the team.

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Speaker 7: So they are all still a lot of those guys

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Speaker 6: It was the coolest thing. I I love it, I

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Speaker 6: I talked to on that staff are so oh hi

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Speaker 3: And if you want to say, you know, do you

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Speaker 8: How could you not like that alone?

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Speaker 1: Yes, come on now, I just feel like, all this is.

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Speaker 6: The mean, This is the mean. This is Mike McDonald,

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Speaker 7: It's the the grim Reaper going down the hallway of doors.

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Speaker 7: It's Kyle Shanahans, it's Sean mcvaks. Now it's Josh McDaniel's

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Speaker 7: coming up the offensive scheme lords, Mike McDonald's coming for him.

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Speaker 1: All I like that. But what's what you missed there

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Speaker 1: the last couple. I like this new theory we're thrown

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Speaker 1: he got comfortable, that his eyes got a little faster

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Speaker 1: you know, all time great coaches. Nathaniel Hacketts back in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, you had me in the first half.

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Speaker 7: So okay, so a lot of times when a head

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Speaker 7: said he's going to be a play caller. On its face,

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Speaker 7: obviously this is a very eyebrow raising higher because at.

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Speaker 1: The end, well, the Cardinals, if I didn't say that

442
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Speaker 1: my fault.

443
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Speaker 7: As the offensive coordinator and and Nathaniel Hackett was obviously

444
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Speaker 7: a complete disaster as as a head coach. But part

445
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Speaker 7: of The reason he became beloved to play calling head coaches,

446
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Speaker 7: including Matt Lafleur Mike Wilfloor's brother, is because there's a

447
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Speaker 7: lot of stuff that the play caller as a head

448
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Speaker 7: coach cannot do infrastructurally and in install and in meetings

449
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Speaker 7: and all these types of things just can't do. It

450
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Speaker 7: has to be in all of parts of the building.

451
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Speaker 7: You hire someone with experience doing sort of that secondary

452
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Speaker 7: work like that. To me, that's what this hire looks like.

453
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Speaker 7: And if you go below the surface of it, not

454
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Speaker 7: saying it's a good idea necessarily, but I can understand

455
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Speaker 7: the process behind.

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Speaker 2: It, and hey, maybe al Roach just becomes an Arizona colf.

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Speaker 1: It also doesn't change the vibe of like, hey, we

458
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Speaker 1: were the tenth team to hire a head coach, that

459
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Speaker 1: he wasn't one of our top three or four picks,

460
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Speaker 1: and that he's not getting his topics. So I hope

461
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Speaker 1: they're able to change that around. Frank w Reich becoming

462
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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator in New York with the Jets has

463
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Speaker 1: a similar type of vibe. Now, Frank Reich has some

464
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Speaker 1: great years running offenses in the NFL, and they weren't

465
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Speaker 1: that long ago. But his last couple of years Carolina

466
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Speaker 1: and with the Colts did not go well. He's familiar

467
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Speaker 1: with Stanford. Yeah, Aaron Glenn going, I'm not.

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Speaker 6: Even counting that recent for recent.

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Speaker 1: That's a tricky one. So good luck to that man.

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Speaker 1: And and uh, the Washington Post. I did want to

471
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Speaker 1: just mention how heartbroken we are about them basically shuttering

472
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Speaker 1: their sports pages. I hate that a frequent guest de

473
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Speaker 1: Sean Reed had just gone there to cover the Commanders.

474
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Speaker 1: But you could just list so many great uh sports

475
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Speaker 1: writers and calumnists over the years that I have worked for

476
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Speaker 1: that paper, and it's just horrible what they did there.

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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, though, Will.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I'd like I agree with, I absolutely agree with

479
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Speaker 2: everything you said there. And it was an important and

480
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Speaker 2: somber moment. But the whole way through it, there was

481
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Speaker 2: a dancing dog directly behind you doing routines. And that's

482
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Speaker 2: the most radio row moment of my.

483
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Speaker 3: Entire weal of man, somebody from dog Tea.

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Speaker 1: They focused, they focused, Will, We're about to give you

485
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Speaker 1: some pop, and I know how you love pop. So

486
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Speaker 1: you mentioned Gronk earlier. Uh, he will be featured actually

487
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Speaker 1: in this little clip that our you know, great producer

488
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Speaker 1: Eric Roberts clipped months ago just hoping for the moment

489
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Speaker 1: when it would come in handy. And now that moment

490
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Speaker 1: has come. Will who's been calling these games for Talk Sport,

491
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Speaker 1: and he's gotten some attention for it.

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Speaker 14: We're underreacting to the emergence of the next great voice

493
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Speaker 14: in play by play. And I'm very sad that the

494
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Speaker 14: international slate is over for twenty twenty five. I need

495
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Speaker 14: more Will Gavin in My Life, CBS, Fox, Westwood One, ESPN, Netflix, YouTube,

496
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Speaker 14: whoever it is, please make a call to the UK

497
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Speaker 14: and scoop him up.

498
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Speaker 6: Bring him here.

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Speaker 14: Gronk is on the show.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk you know.

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Speaker 14: Hey, yeah, you know, some people at Fox call him up,

502
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Speaker 14: maybe give him a couple of reps.

503
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Speaker 3: That was an incredible.

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Speaker 11: Call, Gavin, Just that we're having some Gavin.

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Speaker 1: Now, would you.

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Speaker 2: Like to know the worst part about that clip?

507
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Speaker 1: What that you play it to yourself every morning, is

508
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Speaker 1: that you're alarm so much.

509
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Speaker 2: Worse than that.

510
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Speaker 8: It's not actually my ring So.

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Speaker 1: What was my buddy, Will, Gavin? Where are you part?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

513
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Speaker 2: And my buddy joked about me put setting it as

514
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Speaker 2: my ring tone, So what I did was.

515
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Speaker 13: I did say it's my ring tone.

516
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Speaker 2: And then got my wife to bring me while I

517
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Speaker 2: was with him, so he think I'd actually done it.

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Speaker 8: Totally forgot about it.

519
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Speaker 2: I work in radios, my phone's on mute all the time,

520
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: and then I had Bluetooth headphones. It was listening to,

521
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Speaker 2: funnily enough, NFL Daily, and suddenly in my will Gavin,

522
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Speaker 2: where are you? Because I hadn't changed it back off again,

523
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Speaker 2: and so for a period of time it was.

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Speaker 7: Your only hope.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, what a what a what a come up and

526
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Speaker 1: well deserved and I can't wait for Sundays Spec sixty.

527
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Speaker 1: I'll be with Will on Talk Sport. Will of course, myself,

528
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Speaker 1: Jordan and Nick be doing the post game recap on

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Speaker 1: NFL Daily, But we have so much coming up all

530
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Speaker 1: week long before that happens, including one of the best

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Speaker 1: receivers to come in the NF since I've been covering it.

532
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's too early to already start calling

533
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Speaker 1: him a future Hall of Famer, but I'm not going

534
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Speaker 1: to do that to his face, because I think that's weird.

535
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Speaker 1: But I did the numbers for the whole top twenty

536
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Speaker 1: five of the last twenty five years. If it had

537
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Speaker 1: been one year later, Justin Deffson would have already made

538
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Speaker 1: that list. He has a better resume than plenty of

539
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Speaker 1: Hall of famers out there. Anyways, it's gonna happen. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Right after the break, myself and mister Schuff talking to

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. Thrilled to be joined by Justin Jefferson. I

542
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Speaker 1: said it before we threw the break, but I might

543
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Speaker 1: as well say it, like one of the best players

544
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Speaker 1: to enter the NFL since I've been covering the league,

545
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Speaker 1: which is now coming up on a couple of decades.

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Speaker 1: He is here representing EA Sports alongside Nick Chuck, who

547
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Speaker 1: often represents EA Sports too, works firm. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you guys know you both work for EA much

549
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Speaker 1: much smaller. What's going on?

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Speaker 15: Justin much advantages, you know, just trying to absorb all

551
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Speaker 15: of this energy that's in here today. Uh of course,

552
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Speaker 15: you know, being here on business, uh, socializing, shaking hands

553
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Speaker 15: and uh, just being a part of this.

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Speaker 13: Super Bowl experience for this week.

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Speaker 15: Of course, I would like to be on the other

556
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Speaker 15: side of things and preparing for a game.

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Speaker 13: But uh, you know, it is what it is. So

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Speaker 13: but it's definitely great to be.

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Speaker 1: Here your your sunglasses. Do you find that it's almost

560
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Speaker 1: easier because it's a lot here for radio row It

561
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Speaker 1: like provides like a little bit of a barrier between yourself, and.

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Speaker 15: That's that's one of the main reasons why I like

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Speaker 15: to wear shades. Just kind of puts me in my

564
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Speaker 15: own little bubble, kind of like allow everybody to be

565
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Speaker 15: outside of that bubble that I feel like, so it

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Speaker 15: just feels like I'm kind of hitting a little bit,

567
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Speaker 15: which I'm really not. Uh, but you know, just of

568
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Speaker 15: course the fashion style, the color of them, the way

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Speaker 15: they look also gives off the stakes.

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Speaker 4: Nobody knows your next move.

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Speaker 3: Looking exactly exactly as on the field exactly.

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Speaker 8: I love that.

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Speaker 13: I love it.

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Speaker 1: That's why I wish I was better at football, because

575
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Speaker 1: like I can't pull that off, honestly, Like even the

576
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Speaker 1: number three receiver on your team, no, no offense, Like

577
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Speaker 1: he can't pull that off either. You gotta be justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 13: Hey, I could agree to that one thing.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. And I've watched you and even

580
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Speaker 1: though you come into the league obviously ahead of where

581
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Speaker 1: most rookies are coming into the league, I think You've

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Speaker 1: added a lot to your game, uh, throughout your course

583
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Speaker 1: of your career. I got to watch you twice this

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Speaker 1: year because I was overseas. I'saw both your your game's

585
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Speaker 1: overseas in Dublin and the UK, and I have my thoughts,

586
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Speaker 1: but I want to hear from you. What do you

587
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Speaker 1: think you're better at now specifically than you were even

588
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Speaker 1: let's say two years ago, at playing the position.

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Speaker 13: I would say learning my leverages, learning.

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Speaker 15: That especially, you know, getting double team and triple team

591
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Speaker 15: out there, you kind of got to understand more of

592
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Speaker 15: the game, more of the way they are playing you,

593
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Speaker 15: understanding the routes and how you can win on different routes.

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Speaker 13: I can say. So it's it's.

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Speaker 15: Been different these last two years based on how I've

596
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Speaker 15: just been getting covered. But you know, of course before then,

597
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Speaker 15: there was more one on one coverages, me just going

598
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Speaker 15: out there and just running off of one person and

599
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Speaker 15: getting open. Now just having to really dissect the defense,

600
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Speaker 15: understanding where I'm gonna be at on the field, where

601
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Speaker 15: the quarterback wants me to be at on that field,

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Speaker 15: and I got to get there having to go through

603
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Speaker 15: a couple more different people. So it's just more about

604
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Speaker 15: learning the game more than what I do. And then

605
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Speaker 15: of course, besides football, I gotta lean more into being

606
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Speaker 15: the leader, more into being a captain of the team,

607
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Speaker 15: especially based on this past season.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of different ways you can take with that,

609
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Speaker 3: right because, like, first off, how does that affect your

610
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Speaker 3: off season training? But then you think about being a leader.

611
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Speaker 3: You have a changing quarterback, You kind of need to

612
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Speaker 3: be the veteran in that room. When you were once

613
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Speaker 3: the up and coming youngster, now you're proven, So like,

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Speaker 3: how does that affect the way you approach the entire

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Speaker 3: season starting with the off season.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean the off season is where you know,

617
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Speaker 15: you're kind of getting your tricks, your bags, their tricks,

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Speaker 15: and you're trying to figure out the different things that

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Speaker 15: kind of that that can kind of get you over

620
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Speaker 15: that humph. And this year is all about just of course,

621
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Speaker 15: locking in with with the JJ and just understanding that

622
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Speaker 15: we got a lot of work to do and we

623
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Speaker 15: got a place that we would like to go and

624
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Speaker 15: the only way is to get there is to put

625
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Speaker 15: in that extra work when no one's looking, when no

626
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Speaker 15: one's watching, when no one is keeping an eye over us,

627
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Speaker 15: that we're building that connection building that relationship with each other.

628
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Speaker 15: Uh So, whenever it's time to go back into that building,

629
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Speaker 15: you know, we're not starting off, you know, all fresh again.

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Speaker 15: You know, we're we're going back to the amount of

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Speaker 15: work that we put in throughout the whole entire offseason.

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Speaker 15: Now we have probably the longest off season in the

633
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Speaker 15: history of sports, with all of the different like with

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Speaker 15: months of training, months of just having free time. So

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Speaker 15: it's it's definitely going to be a long process into

636
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Speaker 15: working with him and getting to where we would like

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Speaker 15: to go.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of a good thing though, right, Like the

639
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Speaker 3: amount of time because like I mean, we can all

640
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Speaker 3: be honest like there was it was a frustrating season

641
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: shots because and you can just tell you guys hadn't

642
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: played together for sure.

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Speaker 4: The amount of time probably is good for you.

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Speaker 15: Right, great, Great, And that allows us to kind of

645
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 15: not really be in front of coaches, not really be

646
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 15: in front of media and all of this. We can

647
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Speaker 15: just kind of work on the things that we need

648
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 15: to work on ourselves, and of course we can talk

649
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Speaker 15: to each other about the different things that I see,

650
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Speaker 15: the different things that he can see. We can kind

651
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Speaker 15: of mix that all together and to really you know,

652
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Speaker 15: put a plan together into you know, our routine of

653
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Speaker 15: working together and running routes.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 15: And then of course mentally it's a big mental focus

656
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Speaker 15: to have this mental right as well, especially off this

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Speaker 15: past season or all the different negative comments, Uh, you know,

658
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Speaker 15: is he going to be the quarterback? Is you know

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Speaker 15: a lot of different things circulate around him that a

660
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 15: lot of people are not thinking of, you know, they're

661
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 15: thinking of about their shoes now, really about in his shoes.

662
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Speaker 15: So as a young player, as a quarterback in this league,

663
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Speaker 15: it's my job to you know, make sure that mentally

664
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Speaker 15: he's mentally focused and of course physically getting getting him

665
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Speaker 15: to where we need to get to so we don't

666
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Speaker 15: have this type of season next year.

667
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Speaker 1: And of course you had that season with Sam Darnald.

668
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Speaker 1: What what is that like getting to see him on

669
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Speaker 1: this stage and what was it like playing with him?

670
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Speaker 13: It's pretty fire to see him on this stage.

671
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Speaker 15: Honestly, I mean to build that connection with him from

672
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 15: you know, training camp all the way until the end

673
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 15: of that season and to see him win fourteen games

674
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Speaker 15: and be a valuable threaten into our fourteen.

675
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Speaker 1: Games with you too.

676
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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is very difficult to do.

677
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 15: So for him to be able to do that back

678
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 15: to back seasons, it's crazy, honestly, but I'm happy for him.

679
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Speaker 15: I love to see Sam blossom into that top tier

680
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 15: quarterback that he was meant to be. You know, him

681
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 15: being a first round draft pick, him going to so

682
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 15: many different team teams really not understanding or figuring out

683
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 15: what the problem is. Him coming to Minnesota having a

684
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 15: couple more weapons around him than normal him, you know,

685
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 15: being that top tier quarterback that we knew he was

686
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 15: going to be, and then of course doubling back with

687
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 15: his consistency and having another great season as well. And

688
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Speaker 15: you know, I got him to win the win the

689
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 15: super Bowl. So hopefully him in the well, not in

690
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 15: the journey, but to continue the journey. The journey off

691
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 15: with the super Bowl win is going to be big

692
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 15: time for us.

693
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Speaker 3: So let's go back to that real quick, he said,

694
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Speaker 3: watching him become the top tier quarterback.

695
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 8: That you knew he could be.

696
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: Win when you guys were playing together, did you know

697
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: that he could be a top tier quarterback?

698
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 15: Really just us being around you know, of course he

699
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 15: has the TJ.

700
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 13: Hockinson.

701
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 15: He has me he had Aaron Jones, Jordan Addison, you know,

702
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 15: so many different guys around that offense that he can

703
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 15: really lean onto, uh to to really blossom as a

704
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 15: top tier quarterback. So it was just mostly all about

705
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 15: not turning over the ball. As long as you don't

706
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 15: turn over the ball, you are allow us to make

707
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 15: those plays and to you know, catch the ball in

708
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 15: space and to.

709
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 13: Go to work.

710
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 15: Then we're gonna win the game majority of the time.

711
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 15: And I felt like that was the main, the main

712
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 15: objective last year when we had him, and of course

713
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 15: watching him this year, I feel like it's the same

714
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 15: type of ordeal.

715
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 13: You know, he has a top tier guys.

716
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 15: Around him in that offense, has a great offensive line,

717
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 15: has a great offensive coordinator to.

718
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 13: Really put him in different positions to win.

719
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Speaker 15: It's just all about him going out there, taking control

720
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 15: of the ball, not giving the ball to the other team.

721
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 13: Then they're going to mostly win.

722
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 15: And I feel like that's what's been the makeup of

723
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 15: this whole entire season.

724
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Speaker 1: I saw at this Roger Goodell press conference this week

725
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: that he said that he's heard from a lot of

726
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: players that they like playing overseas because they like being

727
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: ambassadors to the NFL and I saw some players reacting

728
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: to that, but I thought, since we got you, you

729
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: were there for two weeks, Yeah, what are your thoughts

730
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: because you were on a little road trip there, and

731
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: definitely a road trip.

732
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 13: What was that like?

733
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 15: It was different, I would say, I mean, obviously we're

734
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 15: not during the season. You're not really prepared. I would say,

735
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 15: to be there for ten days, to be in one

736
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 15: to be in one country and having to fly to another.

737
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 15: I did the same and I wasn't prepared. Now it's different,

738
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 15: and you know, of course we got to prepare for

739
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 15: a game. Of course, you know, our sleep routine is different,

740
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 15: diet is different. They have different food over there, so

741
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 15: everything is a little bit different. So you're just trying

742
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 15: to do as much as possible to feel as normal

743
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 15: as possible when it's game time. But obviously it never

744
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 15: will feel normal. But I do enjoy being in a

745
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 15: different environment, playing for a different fan base. I mean,

746
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 15: probably ninety percent of those fans never seen me play,

747
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 15: and of course I played with three times now in London,

748
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 15: so the fan bases continue to grow, but there's always

749
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 15: going to be fans there that never experience you or

750
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 15: see and you play this game of football.

751
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 13: So that's the exciting part about it.

752
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: Obviously it's a regular season game, but didn't feel like

753
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 3: it took on more importance because of what you just described.

754
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 15: Yeah, of course, you know it's a first of all

755
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 15: eight to nine hour trip and then of course you

756
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 15: got to get on another plane to fly to another country.

757
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 13: Uh So it was it was a it was a difference.

758
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 13: You know, I was.

759
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: Behind you guys and security going from Dublin to London.

760
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't know they were just going

761
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: to be among the common folks like us.

762
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 8: They were just there.

763
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: I think it was I think it was your guy,

764
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Taylor was right.

765
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 15: And for you know, we didn't have a big enough PJ,

766
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 15: you know to fly to fly over the owners didn't

767
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 15: have a big enough PJ, so we had to fly commercial.

768
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 15: But uh, I mean it was a great experience. I

769
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 15: love I love just being in that different environment, meeting

770
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 15: new people and playing in front of a new fan base.

771
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 13: Uh.

772
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 15: But you know, just the tribal, the food, A lot

773
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 15: of things go into it.

774
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Speaker 13: That you know a lot of people don't really understand before.

775
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: We like, you know, you're here with Madden and e A,

776
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: you're good. Like my son's a player. He's always searching

777
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: for games, and sometimes it'll be like some crazy like

778
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: would you play a game with him? You know, like

779
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: are you good?

780
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 13: I'm good for sure?

781
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: Are you better than Nick? This guy's a pro, he

782
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: like writes about But I am in.

783
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Speaker 4: The video games space. I mean, I'm not like the

784
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: guys in the MCS. Be honest.

785
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 15: I think I'll do good enough, you know, I think.

786
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 15: I mean, of course, I know football. I know the offense,

787
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 15: I know route concepts. I was a quarterback growing up,

788
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 15: so I kind of know all the ins and out

789
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 15: of Madden. You might get me on the defense, you

790
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 15: know what I'm saying. I'm not too too fond of defense.

791
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: But what do you play? Ass? Do you? Are you

792
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: always yourself?

793
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 15: If you tell me, if you are ninety nine overall

794
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 15: in the game without you having to switch any ratings, yeah,

795
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 15: why wouldn't.

796
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 13: You play with yourself?

797
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you're living the dream exactly.

798
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 15: You know, that's always a childhood dream to be a

799
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 15: ninety nine in a video game without having to touch anything,

800
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 15: you know.

801
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about your defense, though? Who are your usering

802
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: during the game? You're playing on the D line don't know.

803
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 13: I'm not a d line I'm a line backer.

804
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 15: I like to you know, manage the middle of the

805
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 15: field of course, off off like yeah, exactly. I feel

806
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 15: like most people throw in the middle of the field,

807
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 15: you know, the crossers, mesh rout, you know.

808
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 13: So you know I'll play linebacker. I'm a linebacker.

809
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 8: I'll play nickel in the slot.

810
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know those rap concepts, you know what

811
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 3: that it might be a video game, but you got.

812
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 13: The instinct exactly.

813
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I'm with you.

814
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: This is this is how we get justin Jefferson the

815
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: pup talking talking about Madden. We appreciate the time we've

816
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: we've enjoyed watching you over the years, certainly this year overseas.

817
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: Thanks again, Yes, sir, thank you. We are back on

818
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: NFL daily and there's nothing better. Uh, when we're welcoming

819
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: a guest like Mac Jones. Then then to hear right

820
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: before we start taping that he's already heard from his

821
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: mom and dad that we're fans of his So I

822
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: was like, hold that, I.

823
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 11: Went on the good side.

824
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: Stop talking.

825
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: Stop talking. It's cool to have like a normal human interaction.

826
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: But let's get this on the show. Tell us more

827
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: about that. Your mom and dad are checking out, Who's.

828
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 16: I mean, yeah, they just I don't really do social

829
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 16: media as much during the year, so they always like

830
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 16: send me articles that are positive and they're like, you

831
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 16: keep doing a job. And I remember seeing one of all,

832
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 16: so we are.

833
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 7: We've talked about you a lot this year because you

834
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 7: kind of were leading the crowd here in the year

835
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 7: of the backup quarterback quote unquote.

836
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 6: I know you started, but.

837
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 7: Sure the work that you did in San Francisco to

838
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 7: kind of will that team through some of its harder

839
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 7: moments and I covered the game in.

840
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: San Francisco.

841
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 7: You got the you know what beat out of you,

842
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 7: but you still kept what that whole period of time

843
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 7: to kind of gut your.

844
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 6: Through what that was and play some really good ball.

845
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 6: What was that like for you?

846
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 11: For sure?

847
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 16: I think it's just the standard that's been set in

848
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 16: San Francisco and it was so cool coming in. Ota

849
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 16: is learning from everybody, learning from Christian Trent George, like

850
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 16: these guys that are gonna be Hall of famers, and

851
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 16: I don't know, I just wanted to show my toughness

852
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 16: this year and show that I'm ready to play. That's

853
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 16: your job as a backup, and I feel like we

854
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 16: played with a lot of juice and energy every game,

855
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 16: but especially you know when I was in there trying

856
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 16: to just sling it around, and like the Rams game

857
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 16: probably was being a little dramatic.

858
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 11: There was definitely some injuries, but I.

859
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 6: Mean kicked out at times.

860
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 11: Well I had multiple multiple issues puking. Yeah, that was real.

861
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 16: But I had a multiple systems that we're not doing

862
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 16: the right thing.

863
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 11: So I was like cramping and had my knee and

864
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 11: then I was like, all right, there's a lot going

865
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 11: on here.

866
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Speaker 1: Do you feel bad at all for like hurting Jordan's

867
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: feelings because deep down she's kind of a Rams fan. Yeah,

868
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: I saw that as as my wife and my daughter

869
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: there they're watching that game and and and you you

870
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: ripped their hearts out that night.

871
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 11: Yeah that was I mean.

872
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 16: They're a great team though, and playing them twice this

873
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 16: year was a huge challenge for me and just so

874
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 16: early in the year, and then I played them again

875
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 16: the second time. But they're incredible and Matthew Stafford is

876
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 16: playing great ball and their defense is playing great, So

877
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 16: huge challenge each game and we split one on one

878
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 16: with them, But I feel like they're a really good

879
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 16: football team.

880
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 6: Are you just saying that to protect my feelings right now?

881
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 7: Yeah?

882
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 16: I mean, like you want to come to the good

883
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 16: side and come to the good side.

884
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 7: You know, covering Kyle Shanahan for a long time something

885
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 7: I've done. And I was at training camp and I

886
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 7: was watching you take reps and what I've always liked

887
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 7: about your game and the way you play is you

888
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 7: take no crap from anybody and you're going to throw

889
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 7: the ball where you want to, Like, you're going to

890
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 7: go for it, right You're not you do you are

891
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 7: not afraid for sure. And they had some rookie DB's

892
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 7: in and you know, you are getting in their faces

893
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 7: just as much as and I watched it, I was like, oh, yeah,

894
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 7: Mac Jones is back, ye know what I mean, Like

895
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 7: that thought where I was like, oh cool, like he's

896
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 7: still the same. Yeah, But what was it like being

897
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 7: kind of a veteran with a lot of really good experience,

898
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 7: but then going in and like the juice of that

899
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 7: defense and just the playing free that team came in

900
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 7: with very little external at least expectation.

901
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, and everyone grew up along the way.

902
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 11: Yeah.

903
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 16: I think I just really challenged myself to play with

904
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 16: that confidence from the start, first practice of OTAs and

905
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 16: then training camp like you're talking about, and I feel

906
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 16: like every day was so intense, you know, and other

907
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 16: teams sometimes there's days where it's like the dog days

908
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 16: of camp, right, But I feel like in San Francisco

909
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 16: was just always like we were going out of every

910
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 16: day for the whole season, and that's what makes you

911
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 16: play good football for a long time.

912
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 6: So I think it was up to Stout.

913
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 11: I'm sure.

914
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 10: Yeah.

915
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 16: I talked to those guys and like when I'm on

916
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 16: scout team, it's I'm talking every day and hopefully backing

917
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 16: it up.

918
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: But you've always you've always liked to talk on the

919
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: field like that. That was what the reporters were, right,

920
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: And when you were rookie in New England and second.

921
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 7: Year like, oh yeah a second, you should know you

922
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 7: don't already Patriots fan?

923
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, here not that's rare.

924
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 11: No, that's fine, that's fine, No, that's.

925
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I was a big supporter. I want

926
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: to know though, like, what does a mac Jones trash

927
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: talk sound like?

928
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 16: Oh no, it's very natural. I think I don't like

929
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 16: plan anything. So if something pops up in the game

930
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 16: like I'll say something.

931
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: But and in practice too, practice, you're gonna let him

932
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: know about it.

933
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 16: Absolutely. It makes it fun and like it raises the

934
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 16: tempo of the practice. And I'm not like obnoxious about it.

935
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 16: Maybe I used to be, but I'm more chill now,

936
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 16: Like I'm just out there throwing, throwing to the open guys,

937
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 16: and then like I'm gonna let him know if I

938
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 16: made a good player, one of our receivers made a

939
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 16: good play, like they're gonna hear about it, for sure.

940
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: I think that's important. That's like when, like I'm a parent,

941
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: I tell my kids that too. When you're playing sports,

942
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: you have to let the opponent know that you just won.

943
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: Ye to really rub you know, to really make sure.

944
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 16: No no, no, no, yeah that's really like in a

945
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 16: respectful way, but like, yeah, it's definitely true.

946
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 6: Oh I love that. What did you love about playing

947
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 6: in that system? It gets talked about across the league.

948
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 7: I myself, Yeah, yeah, way too much about it constantly.

949
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 6: Are listen. Definitely let me know about that.

950
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 7: But like just to the difference is the nuances that

951
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 7: you see in that versus what you maybe were used

952
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 7: to be for not comparing bad or the other, but

953
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 7: just the nuances that maybe the outside does not see.

954
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 16: Yeah, for sure, And I had some experience in college

955
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 16: running a similar system, but this is like the PhD level.

956
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 16: Like Kyle Shanahan twenty word play calls and for me

957
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 16: to just come in, I was like, I'm gonna be

958
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 16: like a rookie this year and just learn everything from scratch.

959
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 16: Obviously had a lot of background with multiple coordinators from

960
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 16: college and Patriots and Jaguars, so trying to just learn

961
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 16: everything from Kyle this year from a fresh start, and

962
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 16: it's very like cookie Cutter, just kind of how I am.

963
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 16: I'm very like a like one, two, three four type guy,

964
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 16: you know, Like that's my reason.

965
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 7: I don't know that I would have said cookie cutter specifically,

966
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 7: but I get what you're saying exactly.

967
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 16: It doesn't like allow you to like freelance and make

968
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 16: stuff up, because you have rules and once you follow

969
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 16: your rules, you know that all right, I'm gonna have

970
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 16: consistency in my play.

971
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 11: And I think that's what you saw this year. And

972
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 11: what I learned the most.

973
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 16: Was if I just stick to my rules what they've

974
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 16: taught me with my footwork and timing like it'll be

975
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 16: more conc it was.

976
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: I that raises a point because I'd like you to

977
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: explain that when it comes to the Shanahan offense that

978
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: you learned and the differences between that sort of offense

979
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: and Josh Josh McDaniel's here here in the Super Bowl

980
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: for sure, for like an average football fan who who

981
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily and even know what progression passing is break down,

982
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: I know, sort of what what's the biggest like top

983
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: level stuff between a Kyle's Landan system and a Josh McDaniels.

984
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 16: Yeah, no, that's a great question. And so Josh is

985
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 16: earn Hard Perkins system. So they've been running that for

986
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 16: a long time and Tom Brady obviously executed at the

987
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 16: highest level and they kind of mended it to their flavor,

988
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 16: you know. And one of the big things in that

989
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 16: offense is making mic points, and so every every time

990
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 16: you get up to the line of scrimmage, you have

991
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 16: to make a mic point to tell the line where

992
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 16: to go, which really you're directing all the traffic right,

993
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 16: and Drake's done a good job of that this year.

994
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 16: When I watch tape, like it's tough, you have a

995
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 16: lot on your plate before the map even starts. And

996
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 16: with Kyle, one of his big things is the opposite,

997
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 16: like it's more you know what your issues are, but

998
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 16: you're not really going to change anything. You're kind of

999
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 16: just gonna go out there and play. And for me,

1000
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 16: and as a guy who's playing in the system where

1001
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 16: I could change everything in my whole career pretty much,

1002
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 16: it was different and I really liked it because I

1003
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 16: knew what my issues were, but I also had a

1004
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 16: system and it was just a lot less on my plate.

1005
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 7: I feel like the thing that's often getting lost in

1006
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 7: this conversation too is those coaches and Josh McDaniel's is

1007
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 7: also excellent at this part of why his system still

1008
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 7: carries and it does. But in terms of that coaching tree,

1009
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 7: that family quote unquote, yeah, what I think a lot

1010
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 7: of people miss in this is that they understand defensive rules,

1011
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 7: especially in zoning defenses, so well that that is why

1012
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 7: they are able to give you progression based passing rules

1013
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 7: because they're breaking the defense's rules.

1014
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 6: For sure, they're giving you can maybe expand.

1015
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 11: A little bit more of yeah, for sure.

1016
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 16: I mean Josh taught me so much about that too,

1017
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 16: and when he was when we were together in New England.

1018
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 16: That was the first thing we did was learned defense.

1019
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 16: So that helped me throughout my career and I'm thankful

1020
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 16: for that. But with Kyle, it's the same thing. It's

1021
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 16: he literally knows exactly what they're doing. It's just a

1022
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 16: matter of, like you said, if one is open, you're

1023
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 16: throwing one. Like there is no they can play cover two,

1024
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 16: they can play blitz zero. Like if a number one

1025
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 16: is open, I'm throwing it. And in my career sometimes

1026
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 16: you might be overthinking that, like, well, is he really

1027
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 16: going to be open versus coverage or you know what

1028
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 16: I'm saying. Yeah, So I'm very like blessed to be

1029
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 16: in the system this year because it allowed me just

1030
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 16: to be that all right, one is there, I'm throwing it.

1031
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 11: If he's not, I'm moving on.

1032
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: You sound like you like like being in that system. Yeah,

1033
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna be talked about on shows like this. We've

1034
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: already talked about it.

1035
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 11: Good things I'm talking about.

1036
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about lists of possible teams who might be

1037
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: looking for quarterbacks this offseason. Obviously you're under contract, or

1038
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: maybe it's not obviously, but the listeners should know you're

1039
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: under contract next year. Yeah, with the forty nine ers

1040
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: as their backup, I'm sure they value that really highly.

1041
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: If other teams do come calling and aggressively like want

1042
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: to get you, do you welcome a trade?

1043
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's It's always a blessing to have

1044
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 16: people discussing those things. And for me, I did sign

1045
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 16: a two year deal, and I really love working with Kyle,

1046
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 16: so I kind of know where I'm at with it,

1047
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 16: and they've we've had good conversations, and I feel good

1048
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 16: about where I'm at. So I understand it's a business

1049
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 16: and there's things that happen, but I think when you

1050
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 16: turn on the tape, like the proof is in the pudding.

1051
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 11: So all I want to do is play good.

1052
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 16: Football, and whether that's a backup or a starter, to me,

1053
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 16: like that's the whole point is to play good, So

1054
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 16: don't worry about all the external stuff.

1055
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 7: It's refreshing and I think we all know when we

1056
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 7: see it, when you play that, you know you could start, Yeah,

1057
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 7: of course, But like there's something to be said for

1058
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 7: being happy too, Like I feel like that's missed a lot.

1059
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 11: I think both can be possible.

1060
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, the show both.

1061
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 7: Things are true time but like that's that's I mean

1062
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 7: the strain of kind of the early years and figuring

1063
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 7: out what this league was all about and then coming

1064
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 7: to something different similar in a lot of ways, but different,

1065
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 7: and then seeing the more of the world open up

1066
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 7: to you.

1067
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 6: What's that been?

1068
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: Like?

1069
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 11: Good? I think when you get you know, as a rookie.

1070
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 16: I was thrown in there and starting right away, which

1071
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 16: is all for me, and we went to the playoffs

1072
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 16: and then had a lot of success, so that was amazing,

1073
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 16: and I wanted to keep doing that and stacking and

1074
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 16: being a backup now and having started a lot of

1075
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 16: games too, like it's good to just get both perspectives.

1076
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 16: And I've done it and I've gone through a whole season.

1077
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 16: I've played half seasons. I've played in a quarter season.

1078
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 16: So it's just like every year is new for me,

1079
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 16: and I just love the challenge, but I know what

1080
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 16: I would be getting myself into like this year. That's

1081
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 16: why I feel like I was just like, all right, well,

1082
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 16: here we go. I'm starting. I know I'm gonna have

1083
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 16: a couple of games here. And I've done this, you know,

1084
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 16: sixty times or whatever, and like it's not my first

1085
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 16: rodeo so.

1086
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: I got in trouble on the old podcast. They thought

1087
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: it was like the hottest take ever that I remember.

1088
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: I said, I would not trade you for Russell Wilson

1089
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: straight up. This was like twenty twenty, which was like

1090
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of more of a hot take. I

1091
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: think history has proven me right. So Sam Darnold kind

1092
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: of you know, he went to San Francisco, he was

1093
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: a backup here. Yeah, he's showing you one route where

1094
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: it can it can really work out. And sure he

1095
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: kind of and he stayed sort of in this similar system.

1096
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Speaker 1: And this is a team that beat you twice. Yeah,

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00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: going up against the Patriots who don't have a lot

1098
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: of those players from back when you were there, but

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Speaker 1: they have a few. Yeah, definitely they have some mc

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Speaker 1: daniels of course for sure. So it makes me like, think,

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Speaker 1: who are you rooting for?

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Speaker 16: I knew this one was coming, how many a decent amount.

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Speaker 16: I haven't really put too much thought into it. I

1104
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Speaker 16: think it is like when it's your division rival and

1105
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 16: former team. I do have friends on the team, Like

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Speaker 16: I literally just saw Mare Stevenson yesterday at dinner, so

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Speaker 16: like just and we always text throughout the year. So

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Speaker 16: I love those guys Hunter, Henry, guys that I played with,

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Speaker 16: and I really want them to do well.

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Speaker 11: So I don't know, I don't have too much of

1111
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 11: an opinion. I'm not going to pick a team.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, you have people for the show I pick either.

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00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, but I love like Josh and there's people like

1114
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Speaker 11: the videos.

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Speaker 1: To be happy for people that you're close with doing well.

1116
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: On the other hand, there's probably a lot of massholes.

1117
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: You don't want to see them get happy.

1118
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 16: No, I mean if they win it, good for them,

1119
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Speaker 16: and that's that's awesome.

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Speaker 7: Before we let you go, we're so appreciative of your time. Yeah, you,

1121
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 7: I mean, your parents are a fan of the show.

1122
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 7: We're just gonna assume here, like we're putting words in

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Speaker 7: your mouth at this point. But they must have then

1124
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Speaker 7: heard our favorite It's a sound drop basically a moment

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Speaker 7: on the show that our producers that that one of

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Speaker 7: us said has said that our producers collect and record

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Speaker 7: and then drop it, sprinkle it into conversations and forth.

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Speaker 7: You are actually the most popular sound drop of the

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Speaker 7: season NFL Daily. We want you to listen to this,

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Speaker 7: probably for the first time, our favorite drop.

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Speaker 11: All right, let's hear wow.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Baby, very it's very fix whatever a good

1133
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: moment happens in your life, like you have a good

1134
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Speaker 1: grocery store trip.

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Speaker 11: Jones, that's awesome. You got assume me that one. I

1136
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 11: like that.

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Speaker 1: We will. We appreciate having on NAC and good luck

1138
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Speaker 1: to you.

1139
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 10: Thank you.

1140
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: Whatever happens this offseason, we'll be watching and appreciate having

1141
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: you on.

1142
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 11: Thank you so much. That's fine, all right.

1143
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: And we are back on NFL Daily. We are here

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00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: with Jackson Dart of the New York Giants, PEPSI zero

1145
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: Sugar NFL Rookie of the Year nominee. This is not

1146
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: really fair to you, but I don't know if you

1147
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: remember this. You were actually in the room at NFL

1148
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: Network watching I believe Raven's chief's divisional round. You were

1149
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: there with your father, You were visiting, I think with

1150
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah and just seeing like what was going around.

1151
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: I was watching that game with you. Actually I was

1152
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: in that you know, theater.

1153
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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: I want to go back to that day and that

1155
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: Jackson and then think about this Jackson being the quarterback

1156
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: of the New York Times and going through a year

1157
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: like that that can aid you like a president like

1158
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: what is the difference between that Jackson and that was

1159
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: what in January of last year and this Jackson that

1160
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: sitting here on Radio Row.

1161
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 4: You know, that's crazy to look back on.

1162
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: Feels like a long time ago.

1163
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 6: It feels like forever agog's life.

1164
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, mine, for sure.

1165
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 17: I thought, like this last year, I feel I've grown

1166
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 17: like three years into one, you know, that rookie year,

1167
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 17: and you're just kind of going from one thing to

1168
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 17: the next, and there's.

1169
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: No time off. So it's definitely been a whirlwind of

1170
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Speaker 4: a year.

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Speaker 17: But I think, you know, from that Jackson to this one, like,

1172
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Speaker 17: I think I've just matured a ton, you know, individually

1173
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 17: from an identity identity standpoint, but also as a football player,

1174
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Speaker 17: like went through a ton of adversity but also had

1175
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 17: you know, successes as well. So there's a lot of

1176
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 17: lessons to learn and to grow from, and I'm just

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Speaker 17: really excited for.

1178
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Speaker 6: This future Jackson.

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Speaker 7: It can be difficult for any person coming of age

1180
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 7: through their twenties to like figure out who they are

1181
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 7: and become more of that person and lean into their identity,

1182
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 7: and to do it on such a stage. I mean,

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00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 7: as the quarterback for the New York giants and somebody

1184
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 7: who is you know playing you know, in these these

1185
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 7: games where everyone's watching you, how did you you We

1186
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 7: saw your personality come out, whether it's in the end

1187
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 7: zone or with with Cam with Skataboo, or with with

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Speaker 7: your teammates, your fellow.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks, like the Jackets. Yeah, like strong.

1190
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 7: Jacket, Strong Jacket game. My group chat would like me

1191
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 7: to tell you that Strong Jacket game. But you know

1192
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 7: it's you showed who you were and I think the

1193
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 7: fan base really appreciated that. It's it could be scary,

1194
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 7: I think, but you really kind of leaned into it.

1195
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 7: And what was that process like for you just as

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Speaker 7: a person growing into that job.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, first of all, I'm just so thankful and I'm

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Speaker 17: grateful to have the people that that are around me

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Speaker 17: and support me.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be here without that.

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Speaker 17: And you know, it's been a dream of mine since

1202
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 17: I was a little kid to be you know at

1203
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 17: this point and just going to continue to grow.

1204
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Speaker 4: But I'm definitely humbled by it.

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Speaker 17: I think, just in New York, like you have to

1206
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 17: mature fast, you know, you have to you know, be

1207
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Speaker 17: on your p's and q's and and and to be

1208
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Speaker 17: a leader, especially with you know, the position that we're in,

1209
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Speaker 17: and I just think for me, like, what a great

1210
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 17: opportunity for me to you know, do my best to

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Speaker 17: just be a really good person and to be there

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Speaker 17: for others and to be, you know, the best leader

1213
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 17: that I can be.

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Speaker 1: I went through my notes. You know, it's rare that

1215
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: I do like this much homework.

1216
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Speaker 7: No.

1217
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: I was on the flight here going through some notes,

1218
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: decided to look at like my game notes of the Giants,

1219
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: and I have a few things I want to get you.

1220
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: But one of the things which I was like, I

1221
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: want to ask them about that was your cadence. I'm

1222
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,959
Speaker 1: a big cadence guy. Like, you've got a nice there's

1223
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: some base to it. It's very loud, like the mics

1224
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: really pick it up. Do you take pride in the cadence?

1225
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: What's the thought process? And do you want to be

1226
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: like one of the best guys in terms of cadence

1227
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Speaker 1: in the NFL.

1228
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 17: Yeah, you know, it's crazycause a lot of people didn't

1229
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 17: think I was going to be able to do a

1230
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 17: cadence you know, from like I don't know if you've

1231
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 17: seen the John Grudden good point point.

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Speaker 1: We didn't think of that.

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Speaker 7: I was thinking more, that's a content that is a

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00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 7: content king right there.

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Speaker 6: He remembers, Yes.

1236
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Speaker 4: I definitely remember that because that was a knock.

1237
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Speaker 17: That's where people are like, I don't even know if

1238
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 17: you can do a cadence, but I definitely take a

1239
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 17: lot of pride in it.

1240
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Speaker 11: You know.

1241
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 17: I think that when you look at the best quarterbacks

1242
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 17: of all time, you know, had great cadences and being

1243
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 17: able to you know, put the defense on their hills

1244
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 17: as much as possible and give that advantage to the

1245
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 17: offense because it really is turned into a really big advantage.

1246
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 17: And I had a lot of vets in the room

1247
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 17: that I was in with Russ and Jamis, and I

1248
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 17: remember like walking into that and I was like, all right,

1249
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 17: like I gotta have a great cadence because these guys

1250
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 17: got a great cadence.

1251
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: Russ Russ from the beginning. It's great because some of

1252
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 1: it also is a little like God given you gotta

1253
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: have you like Joe Flacco, all time great kid. Ryan

1254
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: Tannehill has an all time great one. So I think,

1255
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: like you're studying, you know, your play on the field,

1256
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: you got to study the great comes to the cadence

1257
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: absolutely other notes, so like do you feel calm or

1258
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: more calm when you're out of structure and making place,

1259
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: because it felt like you were pretty calm right off

1260
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: the bat, like the first month in the league, you

1261
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: were already like the game didn't seem too fast for

1262
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: you when you were doing that.

1263
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 4: Well, I think that when you do that.

1264
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Speaker 17: I mean, first of all, there's there is a big

1265
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 17: difference from college to the NFL, So you know, going

1266
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 17: through training and OTA is like, those are times for

1267
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 17: me to you know, make some of those mistakes and

1268
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 17: to kind of experience it those struggles a little bit.

1269
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 17: You have the valleys and in the peaks a little

1270
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 17: bit that you kind of have to go through. But

1271
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 17: I think when I got there on the field, like

1272
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 17: I was just like I said before, I've been surrounded

1273
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 17: by great people.

1274
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 4: So from a preparation standpoint, I felt confident.

1275
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 17: I felt ready, And I think when you're out there,

1276
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 17: like football is football, so you're just you're just trying

1277
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 17: to play ball.

1278
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 4: You're trying to just have fun, just game.

1279
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 17: Out there and a lot of instincts coming to play

1280
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 17: and you're just flowing.

1281
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was it was definitely really fun to

1282
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 4: have that experience.

1283
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 7: I think in every other profession, you want to make

1284
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 7: mistakes early so that you can sort through it. And

1285
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 7: you're not often in public again, and every other profession,

1286
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 7: you're not being watched by millions and millions of people

1287
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 7: as you do it as a quarterback. Like mistakes are

1288
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 7: part of the growth, right and you just you mentioned

1289
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 7: it yourself. How do you balance like staying creative with

1290
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 7: when you're either in struct or out of structure, with

1291
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 7: how you want plays to unfold, but then knowing that

1292
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 7: some of them you know, are riskier and are not

1293
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 7: going to work out, balancing like the known fact that

1294
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 7: you're going to make these mistakes, yeah, and staying free

1295
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 7: at the same time and still taking steps forward.

1296
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 6: It's like if trifecta that would be really hard to battle.

1297
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 4: I think that's a really good question.

1298
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 17: I think that like the thing that you have to

1299
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 17: keep in mind when you out there on the field,

1300
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 17: like you have to be fearless.

1301
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it's okay to make a mistake. Like there's

1302
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 4: a lot of game left.

1303
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 17: I mean you see in the NFL like this year,

1304
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 17: like it's been crazy where teams have been down or

1305
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 17: you know, maybe as a quarterback, you haven't been playing

1306
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 17: for a good half of football. But in that second

1307
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 17: half of football, somebody plays amazing and the game turns around.

1308
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 17: So there's a lot of football to be played. And

1309
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 17: I think that when you go out there, you just

1310
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 17: have to play fearless. And I think that I had

1311
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 17: a great like a great group of guys around me

1312
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Speaker 17: who you know, we're okay and kind of instilled my

1313
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 17: play style to play the way that I play.

1314
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 4: And I think that we all just played hard.

1315
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: Look, there was a lot of great performances. You know,

1316
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: you come out early, you get wins against the Chargers,

1317
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 1: playoff team, Eagles, you put up thirty points in Denver,

1318
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: like so close with a lot of great teams. Bears

1319
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: were another one, and you had ups and you had

1320
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: downs in the season. I think you finished strong. You're

1321
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: up for this, you know, Rookie of the Year nominee.

1322
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: And I kind of thought, like, because you came out

1323
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: so hot, it almost like people forgot. Have you considered

1324
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: doing some negative campaigning against Tyler Shuck that like maybe

1325
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: Shuck is getting a little too too much pop and

1326
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: didn't even play the whole season.

1327
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 17: Well, first of all, shout out to PEPSI zero sugar,

1328
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 17: I think, just what a cool opportunity for all of

1329
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 17: us to come together and to be a part of this.

1330
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 17: To be honest, like, no, I haven't done zero, Like

1331
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 17: I mean, the biggest thing to me that matters is

1332
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 17: is one day hoping up you know, hopefully more than

1333
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 17: one Super Bowl trophy. And you know that's in my

1334
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 17: mind from a standpoint of like whatever happens, like it is,

1335
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 17: it is what it is. Like I feel like, you know,

1336
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 17: I was able to put out a really good product

1337
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 17: on display, like you can just look at the numbers,

1338
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 17: and I think that that really speaks for itself. So

1339
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 17: obviously the most important thing is is continued to find

1340
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 17: ways to win. And I know that we're gonna do

1341
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 17: that in the future, but you know that's that's really

1342
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 17: the most important thing to me.

1343
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 6: Is there a moment this year?

1344
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 7: It could be it could have been a play, And

1345
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 7: certainly I think of a lot of the ones where

1346
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 7: you are working at a structure, you're you're creating, crazy

1347
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 7: things are happening all around you, and you're sort of

1348
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 7: willing things to happen for your offense. But is there

1349
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 7: a play that or even a moment like behind the

1350
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 7: scenes that maybe we would not have seen.

1351
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 6: Where you're like, holy crap, man, I'm in the NFL

1352
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 6: right now.

1353
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 4: Oh jeez.

1354
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 17: I feel like there's there's a few of the Yeah,

1355
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 17: there's times where I'm I'm going there on the field

1356
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 17: and I'm looking at guys and I'm like, dang, like

1357
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 17: you did really good for my fantasy team, like four

1358
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 17: years ago when I.

1359
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: Was when I was younger, and this would be you.

1360
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 17: Just like, being being involved in this game and competing

1361
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 17: at the highest level is such an honor and being

1362
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 17: around like these great players is so cool. I mean,

1363
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 17: like I said earlier, like part of this like the

1364
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 17: pepsis zero sugar, like the rookie stuff, Like all those

1365
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 17: guys are great players and have done amazing things. So

1366
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 17: I think it's just such an honor to be on

1367
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 17: the stage with them and compete with everybody at this level.

1368
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 6: Trying to say we have a streak going too. We

1369
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 6: had the winner on our show really.

1370
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 13: Every day, Okay, really.

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Speaker 1: Is that is good? I am.

1372
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 6: You don't have to say it, you know, I'm just

1373
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 6: putting it out.

1374
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can impact the voters. I

1375
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how that works.

1376
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 4: I believe I believe in that, Like I tried to

1377
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 4: put out.

1378
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 17: I don't know if you guys saw like I got

1379
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 17: caught on a mic saying the thing about Harbor.

1380
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 6: Yeah we saw it.

1381
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for thanks for breaking the news to us.

1382
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 6: I appreciate no doubt.

1383
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 4: So I didn't know that was gonna happen.

1384
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 17: But I'm with you, like sometimes you just put things

1385
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 17: out good energy, manifested.

1386
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: Have you talked to Matt n Aggie, your new offensive coordinator.

1387
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have. We've talked a few times.

1388
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 17: Obviously, it's it's still really new and uh, I think

1389
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 17: it just came out yesterday.

1390
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: So excited to go this relationship with him.

1391
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 17: HAVE heard a ton of really good things from people

1392
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 17: that I've talked to about him, and you know, just

1393
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 17: from a cooperation and collaboration as quarterback offensive coordinator, I'm

1394
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 17: really excited.

1395
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 4: To build this with him.

1396
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 6: He's kind of a magician with concepts.

1397
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 7: Out of the gun specifically, we know you love to

1398
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 7: play out of the gun.

1399
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 6: You like to see the defense in front of you unfold.

1400
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 7: And I guess how do you allowed your brain to

1401
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 7: kind of get that far. I know you're so busy

1402
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 7: right now, but like eating and thinking, oh, what could

1403
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 7: be possible watching maybe someone the home stuff.

1404
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 6: And what could be possible here.

1405
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 17: Yeah, I love his I think he has a very intelligent,

1406
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 17: brilliant mind of just being able to create you know,

1407
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 17: cool plays and whatnot. So I'm excited to be a

1408
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 17: part of like an innovative offense in that regard. But

1409
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 17: at the same time, you know, it's I've always watched

1410
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 17: you know, pat highlights for a long time and excited

1411
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 17: to kind of like, you know, form a little bit

1412
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 17: of similar things around with with coaching Aggie, and I

1413
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 17: think he's just gonna do a great.

1414
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 4: Job and have all the confidence in him.

1415
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: And that was one of the things they said too

1416
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: about you got that you got to learn a little

1417
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: more under center coming in the pros. That was on

1418
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: the notes too, and that that that that the under

1419
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: center was increasing, it was getting better and it was

1420
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: strong at various points in the season. So it was

1421
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: really cool to see your development. This year football is

1422
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: just going to be more interesting with the Giants having

1423
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: a fun quarterback to watch. We got that with Jackson Dark.

1424
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: Appreciate having you on.

1425
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you guys for taking the time.

1426
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 5: I really appreciate it.

1427
01:00:54,960 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: Thanks back on NFL daily, and we are excited to

1428
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: be joined by a man who joined us on the

1429
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: field after just winning the previous Super Bowl, Super Bowl

1430
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: fifty nine hero Brandon Graham. You, oh yeah, but we'll too,

1431
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I get to ride the coattails, I honest, Yeah. Look,

1432
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: Brandon and Bo co host a podcast for p h

1433
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: L I called the Unblocked Podcast. Bo is the host,

1434
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: and so I thought it'd be fun as a long

1435
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: time you know, friend, colleague of BO. I think we're

1436
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: a friend. I would hope to make him awkwardly sick

1437
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: here the whole time as we talk to the more

1438
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: interesting part of the duo, Brandon the whole time. So welcome, Brandon.

1439
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 18: I appreciate you how having us an you know, we come,

1440
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 18: we come as a package.

1441
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 19: For sure, it has been it has been fun walking

1442
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 19: around with BG. It's kind of how I feel like

1443
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 19: it must be like for you, Jordan, just anytime you're

1444
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 19: in La walking with Greg, because he can't take a

1445
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 19: step without just being mobbed by people who want to

1446
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 19: take pictures with him and tell him how much, you know,

1447
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 19: BEG means to them.

1448
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 7: But it must be just like that's actually completely true,

1449
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 7: except the reverse because first they have to see Greg.

1450
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 6: No, it's similar.

1451
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm sure you're easy, easy to hide behind

1452
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 7: Brandon's a it's a little discrepancy here, I think.

1453
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, Greg, I'm.

1454
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: A wee lad. Look, how was that that was crazy?

1455
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: You played football again this year? I remember we talked

1456
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: and and you said to us although you weren't ready

1457
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: to officially declare it in the moment, but you were

1458
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: expecting to walk away and then and then he.

1459
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 19: Just retorn the thing that he had come back yeah

1460
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,479
Speaker 19: and done gamey thing.

1461
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: And then you walk back into a pretty wild time

1462
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: as a as a Philadelphia egle like and you were

1463
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: podcasting about it at the time. How was that?

1464
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 8: That was cool?

1465
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 12: Man?

1466
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 18: It was hard to keep that secret for a while

1467
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 18: because I was knowing and I found out in August

1468
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 18: that was opportunity that might come way. Of course, you know,

1469
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 18: bo knew because we wanted to make sure on the

1470
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 18: podcast and we you know that do happen that we

1471
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 18: do it the right way coming.

1472
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 8: Back surprise to people?

1473
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 18: But uh yeah, man, I think the hardest part was

1474
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 18: that trying to trying to hold on to that information

1475
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 18: because I was excited. I wanted, wanted people to know

1476
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 18: what was going on, but yeah, it was. It was

1477
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 18: cool to come back and my my tricep was healed.

1478
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 11: Just high.

1479
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 8: I wasn't.

1480
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 18: I wasn't all the way there coming back for that

1481
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 18: Super Bowl. But I wouldn't have.

1482
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 8: Changed it for nothing, because it was.

1483
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 18: It was great to be a part of it, get

1484
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 18: those pictures in uniform, and I got to touch my

1485
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 18: homes one time.

1486
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 8: Even though it wasn't the same.

1487
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 6: It was a pivotal moment.

1488
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: Though.

1489
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 6: We remember it and we talked to you about it.

1490
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,959
Speaker 7: I mean, it's funny just for the listener, like there's

1491
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 7: so much adrenaline going through the players at the end

1492
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 7: of those games. So as BG comes up onto the

1493
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 7: stage with us today, I'm like, you definitely don't remember this,

1494
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 7: but we talked to you on the field and you

1495
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 7: had so much adrenaline and like you had you were

1496
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 7: your family was incredible.

1497
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 6: And He's like, I'm sure I was.

1498
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 7: I'm sure it was great like all this stuff, you

1499
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 7: know what I mean, Like you were so polite, but

1500
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 7: there's no way. I mean, it's such like fractions of

1501
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 7: incredible moments in such rapid fire. And I guess when

1502
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 7: when is the time that you sit with it, that

1503
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 7: you decompress, Like I accomplished this, and I got through

1504
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 7: this first of all, but I also accomplished this monumental

1505
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 7: thing that it wouldn't I could not wrap my head

1506
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 7: around it.

1507
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 6: If you know, if I.

1508
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 18: Were in that position, well, you know what, you start

1509
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 18: to really like relish in that moment when you at

1510
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 18: the parade. Yeah, you're sitting on that on top of

1511
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 18: the bus. Everybody's getting ready for like the kickoff of

1512
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 18: the parade, and then we're getting to get to ride

1513
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 18: and you're talking and you're looking around and you're seeing.

1514
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 8: Like, man, we did it again. We did it again.

1515
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 8: This was this was everything and the.

1516
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 18: Way we did it, like to go, I wasn't a

1517
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 18: part of the O four team, but then to play

1518
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 18: the Patriots against a team where it was a spy

1519
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 18: Gate four, it was controversy in that.

1520
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 8: Then you come back today, by the way, yeah, Brady

1521
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 8: strips everyone. Oh yeah, eight years that ain't what time fly.

1522
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: But for me, it's like I still haven't forgiven you

1523
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: for that. By the way, you're up in massive said

1524
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: it was hurtful.

1525
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 18: You know what, y'all came back the next year so yeah,

1526
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 18: it wasn't that bad. Y'all came back and beat them

1527
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 18: Boys of the Rams too at that. But yeah, it

1528
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 18: was so cool to be able to, uh, for one,

1529
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 18: go against Brady, beat him when he just beat Man.

1530
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 18: He went to three Super Bowls back to back to

1531
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 18: back them years, and for him to just have beat

1532
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 18: Atlanta the way they did, and for us to have

1533
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 18: that same type of momentum where the.

1534
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 8: Drive is like they got the last drive.

1535
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 18: And they getting momentum and they've been scoring. Man, I

1536
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 18: was so I was so thankful. So in those moments

1537
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 18: when I relished them, it be more. So at the

1538
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 18: parades it be more and so like even this year,

1539
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 18: I knew, like, man, this was potentially my last little parade.

1540
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 8: I'm going out on top. Let me enjoy the moment,

1541
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 8: Let me enjoy everything.

1542
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 18: Videos, pictures with the kids, because you really gotta that's

1543
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 18: what you gotta do. You gotta take those pictures for

1544
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 18: those moments because life definitely goes on. Because it sounded

1545
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 18: good going out on top until reality hit and it

1546
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 18: was like, dang, twenty twenty five season is approaching and

1547
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 18: I'm still itching well.

1548
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 19: And I think that's that's sort of been the interesting

1549
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 19: thing to watch it from the outside, but to have

1550
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 19: gone sort of through it next to you is when

1551
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 19: Beg comes back, there's some Eagles fans are like, oh, man, like,

1552
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 19: why would you ruin the perfect ending? Like you went

1553
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 19: out on top, you had this great ending, you won

1554
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 19: the super Bowl, And it's not the perfect ending. If

1555
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 19: he wants to keep playing, right and he still has

1556
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 19: that itch, it's it's it's up to him, right, it's not.

1557
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 5: It's not about creating the lasting memory for it.

1558
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: So life short, like life too short. Once you stop playing,

1559
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: you're never gonna dine out.

1560
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 18: You don't nobody really care about how like they just

1561
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 18: know you two times super Bowl champion, that's it.

1562
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 19: And by the way, most efficient sack guy in the

1563
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 19: NFL this season three sacks and like sixty five passer

1564
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 19: And you know.

1565
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 7: What, I was going to ask you all the same question,

1566
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 7: like the moment for you, like do you go through

1567
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 7: like all your old podcasting clips from the season and

1568
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 7: like your your articles from the season, You're like, man,

1569
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 7: I really killed.

1570
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 5: It this show during the super Bowl.

1571
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what.

1572
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 19: I will answer you seriously, even though the question isn't jest.

1573
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 19: When you go into that locker room after the super Bowl.

1574
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 19: What what does overwhelm you is all the other people,

1575
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 19: you know, all of the staffers who are either assistant

1576
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 19: coaches or you know, like the training staff. And seeing

1577
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 19: those people get to have the moment of they come

1578
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 19: to work every single day in service of hoping to

1579
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 19: get this and to see them get to celebrate, you know,

1580
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 19: like the messuses or everybody else, like the woman who's

1581
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 19: in charge of the nutrition shakes. Like seeing them get

1582
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 19: to celebrate that to me is like, okay, that is

1583
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 19: that is very cool.

1584
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: Well, while we're here, because I want to.

1585
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 6: Way to make me feel like an a.

1586
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: Usually it's hugely vice versa.

1587
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 4: It's usually you making me feel that way.

1588
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: I love that for you. Let's actually listen. We have

1589
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: a clip. Uh, this is not the one we We

1590
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: also had your kids on the show, which was great.

1591
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 19: YEA happy birthday to his daughter Emerson today birthday, guest, Emerson,

1592
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 19: Happy birthday.

1593
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Brandon because this has some application to

1594
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: this super Bowl. Right after the game, how about that

1595
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: play by Milton Williams that looked just like your play

1596
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: around the Super Bowl? Well, Tom Brady's covering what do.

1597
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 8: You think I'm thankful for that boy? That's elm sweaty.

1598
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 18: Nolan.

1599
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 8: I mean JC, even though j C took.

1600
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 18: He took two every play, So he opened up the

1601
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 18: door for a lot of guys with the one on

1602
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 18: ones and we just won our matchups today and very

1603
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 18: thankful for these guys.

1604
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Milton Williams, like, give me something on milk.

1605
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 8: Look at you took some of them good.

1606
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's trying to do what we're calling the reverse

1607
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: Chris Long or the reverse Lagarett Blunt where you go

1608
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: Eagles Patriots, Yes, back to back. He's flipping it on

1609
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 1: its head, Like, what can you tell me about what

1610
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: it's like playing next to that guy, because he's a

1611
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: breath of fresh air, Like not only a Patriot that

1612
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 1: that is that dynamic and it's living up to that money,

1613
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: but a Patriot that's a great quote. I mean it's

1614
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: been a while since we had one of those.

1615
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 18: Yeah, and I know for him he is living right,

1616
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 18: That's how I look at it. Like, man, when you

1617
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 18: got these glory years right now, milk, enjoy them because

1618
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 18: they don't come around for a lot of people, Like

1619
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 18: it's a lot of people that played fifteen years and

1620
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 18: they ain't sniffed the Super Bowl and they wasn't on

1621
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 18: the right team. And so for me, like to him,

1622
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 18: I would just say, enjoyed the moment. Make sure you're

1623
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 18: taking video, taking all the pictures, putting all the work

1624
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 18: in that you can. It's not just to make it

1625
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 18: to the Super Bowls to win it. And so for him,

1626
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 18: I know that from jump when he first came to

1627
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 18: our locker room, he's been like the guy that's always

1628
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 18: had that chip on his shoulder. So always keep that

1629
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 18: because you know, nobody gave him nothing. He went out

1630
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 18: there and he earned it. And so even this year

1631
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 18: already when they paid him a hundred million, I remember

1632
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 18: people talking like, man, who was this guy we paying

1633
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 18: a hundred and he ain't been no starter. He cut

1634
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 18: off the bench and then he showed why. And so

1635
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 18: I'm proud of him. But the job is not done.

1636
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 18: I know he knows that, but y'all got a stud

1637
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 18: and I wish we could have retained him because he

1638
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 18: would have helped us this year and we probably would

1639
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 18: have you playing against all he gave you.

1640
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 19: Some prouts on Media Nite said he took a lot

1641
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 19: of stuff.

1642
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 5: From you to do it to England.

1643
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 19: The other thing is like that reverse Leagarrett Chris Long.

1644
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 19: Thing is interesting because back then Lane talked about Lane Johnson.

1645
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 5: You know, they've won those titles, but they.

1646
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 19: Don't seem like they're having fun, whereas like, I would

1647
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 19: rather win one and have fun.

1648
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 5: And it seems like that has kind of flipped, whereas.

1649
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 19: Now like the Patriots are the team on the come

1650
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 19: up who were having fun, whereas the Eagles are like,

1651
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 19: we won, but it's always oh yeah.

1652
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: I was kind of like I listened to Chris Show.

1653
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: He is an Eagle. He talks about how great that

1654
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: year was. He pretty much he's like, you have the

1655
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: Patriots here, we won, but it wasn't that fun.

1656
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 13: Right, Yeah?

1657
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it was style military style. Hey, I'm sorry.

1658
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 18: I mean he's a great, great coach, great all that,

1659
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 18: because they won a bunch of super Bowls, but like,

1660
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 18: did y'all really have fun?

1661
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying when you talk about it?

1662
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1663
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's how I feel like talking about those years. Man,

1664
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 18: they just fly by so fast because of how much

1665
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 18: fun you have, and so you can see that you

1666
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 18: can win both ways, but I'd rather win having fun.

1667
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 7: That's an interesting point that you bring, guys both bring

1668
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 7: up because I have had this question, you know, knowing

1669
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 7: that you guys do the show together, and then you know,

1670
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 7: the Eagles have been through some complicated stuff, right, and

1671
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 7: some of it's very public. I'm sure there's so much

1672
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 7: more that's nuanced. And it's a building full of human

1673
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 7: beings with big feelings, right, and and a lot of

1674
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 7: different personalities, And so it's like, how do you first

1675
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 7: of all navigate that you know, you've been a leader

1676
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 7: in that team for a long time, but then also

1677
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 7: you got to.

1678
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 6: Go on a show and talk about it.

1679
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: So how do you.

1680
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 7: Talk about these things in a way that is like

1681
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 7: nuanced and it doesn't give too much away but makes

1682
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 7: your point very clear. The way that you guys want

1683
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 7: to convey this, these things that we we hear and

1684
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 7: see coming out of the building, Well, go ahead, I'm

1685
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 7: you Well.

1686
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say.

1687
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 19: It is not only that, but the schedule is also

1688
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 19: a difficulty because you know, there was a game this year.

1689
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 19: Where was it the It was the game in Green

1690
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 19: Bay the play team play lands at like three thirty

1691
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 19: in the morning. He comes straight to the studio to

1692
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 19: record the podcast, that morning he's falling asleep, like like

1693
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 19: literally show that's a real podcast.

1694
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: That's some real podcasts.

1695
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 19: This is he was dedicated to to the craft. But yeah, no,

1696
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 19: I think I think people know that that b G

1697
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 19: is someone who tells the truth, yea, and that's part

1698
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 19: of why they tune into the show. But yeah, you

1699
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 19: are also someone who who you're not going to give

1700
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 19: things away. It is about It is about giving people

1701
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 19: a little bit of a peak behind the scenes with it.

1702
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: While except for that whole like a j Brown Daleen

1703
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: hurt thing you kind of.

1704
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 8: Give, you know what? That was that one for the best.

1705
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 18: That one was for That one was for just making

1706
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 18: sure you handling your own business. Go involve every That's

1707
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 18: all I was really saying, because you know, if I

1708
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 18: got a friendship that I'm trying to protect, you can't

1709
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 18: let everybody in that, you know what I'm saying. And

1710
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 18: so that's where that's where it'd be tough, because you

1711
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 18: got to be able to separate the business from the personal.

1712
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 18: And sometimes that's not always easy because you know, we

1713
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 18: both are friends, but we want the same thing.

1714
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 8: We want to win it all. But we wanted to

1715
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 8: win it all.

1716
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 18: Look in a certain way because that's what the media

1717
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 18: and everybody say. I mean, of course Jalen hursts, he

1718
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 18: don't care how you win. It's just like, let's just

1719
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 18: win and then we'll worry about the other stuff later.

1720
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 8: But I just wanted them to be able to talk.

1721
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 18: About it and not just have everybody all in they mix,

1722
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 18: and so that's really what I was saying.

1723
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 8: But I know that was tough because I took it, I.

1724
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 18: Owned it, and we moved forward in that and I

1725
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 18: felt like it helped us in a way where everybody,

1726
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 18: you know, we end up winning it all. And of course

1727
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 18: this year coming back into it, it was tough.

1728
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 5: Who's to say you don't win if you don't do that.

1729
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 8: I mean, you don't.

1730
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 7: I don't know, That's what question is because from the

1731
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 7: outside in, it felt like you were sometimes we need

1732
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 7: a third party and to tell say, like, guys, this

1733
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 7: is this is what it looks like.

1734
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it.

1735
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 7: Kind of felt like you were doing that in a

1736
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 7: way that ended up being extremely helpful to the overall.

1737
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,520
Speaker 6: That's just me saying it from the outside.

1738
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 18: Looking, I'm with you, because all I want us to

1739
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 18: do is not have no regrets when we look back

1740
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 18: on it and say, did we let any We didn't

1741
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 18: let this little thing block us from where we was

1742
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 18: trying to go. And of course it's all about sometimes

1743
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 18: just having that conversation and people don't know.

1744
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 8: The whole story. I didn't know the whole story. All

1745
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 8: I know is communication works well when.

1746
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 18: You go to the actual source and then y'all work

1747
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 18: things out and y'all come in the middle about things something.

1748
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: So both kind of mentioned like maybe you're you guys

1749
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 1: were a little in the spot that the Patriots got

1750
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 1: into where even the winning wasn't always that much fun

1751
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 1: if it wasn't the right style.

1752
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 8: Oh my goodness, that is that true?

1753
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: Like is that true from the outside, because I'm curious,

1754
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: is Philly like is there actually more drama or is

1755
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: there just more attention? And so the drama all comes out.

1756
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 8: It just attention.

1757
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 18: I look at it. I look at it like this.

1758
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 18: People want like people didn't care when it come down

1759
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 18: to the playoffs. Okay, all year people wanted style points,

1760
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 18: but then when it came down to the playoffs, they

1761
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 18: wouldn't have cared if we.

1762
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 8: Had a bad game and still won that game in

1763
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 8: the end.

1764
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 18: And you know, if we had that all the way

1765
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 18: going to the Super Bowl and won it all doing

1766
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 18: it like that, then I think that we can always

1767
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 18: result back to say, hey, hey, Philly, we did it

1768
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 18: like this and y'allways complaining and we still won. So

1769
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 18: what y'all got to cry about? Now, you know what

1770
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 18: I'm saying. So it's it's always gonna be something to

1771
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 18: talk about and cry about. But as a leader of

1772
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 18: the team, you gotta block it out because when it

1773
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 18: comes down to it, if we would have won that

1774
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 18: game and the forty nine ers after all the stuff

1775
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 18: that happened with the offensive stuff, and we'd have won,

1776
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 18: they wouldn't have worried about it, and we'd have been

1777
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 18: in the super Bowl.

1778
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 8: With the coordinator, I mean.

1779
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: You would have to be a couple of good team

1780
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1781
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 8: We had some good ones though, don't get me wrong.

1782
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 18: But the defensive side, we were trying to put that

1783
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 18: on our back for this year. But man, it don't matter.

1784
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 18: The style, points don't matter in the playoffs. It's just

1785
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 18: a winning it.

1786
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:02,839
Speaker 6: I love this defense.

1787
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 19: I could go on, like the toughness of playing in Philly.

1788
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 19: Thing is the thing that that I don't think is understood,

1789
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 19: is that, yes, the city is very difficult to.

1790
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 5: Play in and they will reward you if you play well.

1791
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 19: But if you talk to people around the league who

1792
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 19: have been in that building and then left or have

1793
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 19: what they've heard of it, it is also intense scrutiny

1794
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 19: in the building from the top down. And that is

1795
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 19: something that is is not the same everywhere else, and

1796
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 19: it's part of what's made them great, but it is

1797
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 19: it is not always the most joyous place to work, yes,

1798
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 19: get answer.

1799
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 8: Not not not as far as like players.

1800
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the upstairs front office.

1801
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 18: Because they do have a high standard of of how

1802
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 18: they do things. And I mean which I understand some

1803
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 18: stuff you might have to learn and kind of back

1804
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 18: off a little bit. But but you how I look

1805
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 18: at it too, It's like you want to make sure

1806
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 18: that you just focus when you're supposed to be focused,

1807
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 18: and I want to have fun when I can have fun.

1808
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 8: It's like I'm not trying to be serious the whole time.

1809
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 18: It's like I I love my little moments were I

1810
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 18: can make a coach laugh in the serious situation and

1811
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 18: it's like, all right, coach, if this happened again, say

1812
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 18: what say we? He goes off on us on the sideline,

1813
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 18: and then we talk about it in the meeting.

1814
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 8: Even though we won the game.

1815
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 18: It's like, coach, trust us, because it's about trust too,

1816
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 18: because when people yelling at you sometimes it's like you

1817
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 18: trust me? Do you trust what we said? It's like

1818
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 18: we said that we was gonna be in a dogfight.

1819
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 18: I made a mistake, but don't don't condemn me for it.

1820
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 18: We're still in the fight. Let's let's keep working and

1821
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 18: we'll figure it out later. And then you find out

1822
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 18: that what you thought happened in the game didn't happen

1823
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 18: so bad because maybe you wasn't listening and I was

1824
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 18: trying to tell you. But you don't want to be

1825
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 18: You don't want to stay as hostile. So one person

1826
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 18: might take the fall and be like, you know what, coach,

1827
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 18: you right, I'll just take.

1828
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 8: It right now. But then later on you'd be like, dang, coach,

1829
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 8: you was wrong.

1830
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 18: So you got to be able to You got to

1831
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 18: be able to own own it too, because you can't

1832
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 18: just be throwing that stuff. You gotta have accountability in

1833
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 18: this because and then you got to be a little

1834
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 18: season in it too, because it's been moments were I

1835
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 18: had to take it, even though I knew I was right,

1836
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 18: I just say, you know what, coach, I'll let you.

1837
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 8: I'll let you have your mama right now.

1838
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 18: All right, And then when you look back on it,

1839
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 18: I don't say nothing. But unless coach don't, unless coach

1840
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 18: just don't acknowledge it, then I'm like, coach, let's get

1841
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 18: back on what happened on the field.

1842
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 8: Hey, talk to me. What's what happened on that? Oh yeah,

1843
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 8: bgu is right.

1844
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 18: Okay, Hey, I'm telling you both because you see, you

1845
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 18: got to kill people.

1846
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 8: With kindness and it's good. Listen, I'm telling you.

1847
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 18: As hard as that is, sometimes it ain't about winning

1848
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 18: the winning it it's about Look, it's a problem right here.

1849
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 18: Me and you got to figure this thing out, to

1850
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 18: attack this problem together. But sometimes people think it's a

1851
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 18: problem between me and you and eight even in marriage, wife,

1852
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 18: this is a problem right here that we just need

1853
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 18: to figure out.

1854
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 8: I love you.

1855
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 18: I know you got to work on some things just

1856
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 18: like I do. And it's like you know all that stuff,

1857
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 18: but it's it's really communication because a lot of a

1858
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 18: lot of times when you see stuff on the sidelines,

1859
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 18: because people have miscommunication or or built up feelings that

1860
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 18: they needed to have a man a man talking sometimes

1861
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 18: and you don't always get that in a work relationship,

1862
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 18: but in football you should have that more than not.

1863
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 18: But a lot of people sometimes run from those those hard,

1864
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 18: hard moments because it ain't always easy to kind of

1865
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 18: tell someone man, you're wrong, you know, and didn't take

1866
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 18: accountability to know that you're wrong.

1867
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: Life Lessons with Brandon Braham that We've got a guest

1868
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: coming up, So I'll leave you with this. This was

1869
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: too good for our research department, Chris Pabona and Eric

1870
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: Roberts getting it done with a direct quote from the

1871
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: Unblocked podcast hosted by Bo wolf H. Brandon, you said,

1872
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 1: if how he made a splash with the coordinator, I

1873
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: think it'll spark some interest with people wanting to come back.

1874
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 1: So I ask you, is Sean Mannion a splash with

1875
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:54,440
Speaker 1: the higher at coordinator?

1876
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 18: I would say yes, because from what people have told me,

1877
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 18: even people letting the organization that knows him say, man,

1878
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 18: he is great. Y'all don't even know just the relationships

1879
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 18: he has already and how he tries to really build

1880
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 18: those relationships. And I'm loving that. It's gonna start from

1881
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 18: the ground up and he's all about that. And so

1882
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 18: with him and Jay, I'm sure they've been on the phone,

1883
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 18: been talking how you want, how you how you how

1884
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 18: you envision us looking this year, and then we just

1885
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 18: go from there. It's the journey of these next six months.

1886
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 19: But people coming back, Yeah, he puts sixty forty on

1887
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 19: AJ coming back communicator.

1888
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 18: Yes, if you could communicate what you what you want

1889
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 18: and how you wanted to look, Man, are you killing

1890
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 18: the game? And so I'm hoping that we could keep

1891
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 18: because like how we say, he ain't trying to get

1892
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 18: rid of no good players. And I know I don't

1893
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 18: want to see I don't want to see him go.

1894
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 18: I want to see everybody thrive, and I want to

1895
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 18: see Davonte AJ shoot, say Quon back in the mix.

1896
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 18: I mean, let's go get that record again this year

1897
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 18: on top of heck the record, you know what, Like

1898
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 18: let's have it where passing yards and running yards, Like,

1899
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 18: let's have a complete package this year. And I think

1900
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 18: they could do that with the people that they got.

1901
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 1: Heck, we might have a BG back in the mix.

1902
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: Our own Mike Garafolo reporting that he's gotta think about it,

1903
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: but don't take we're not gonna put you on.

1904
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 18: I would just say, already, already. I told him, I

1905
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 18: told him exactly how I felt. I want to do

1906
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 18: it before. I don't want to just jump in halfway

1907
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 18: through because as soon as I start really feeling good

1908
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 18: and it was over, and I was just like, dang,

1909
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 18: I wish I'd have started earlier.

1910
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 5: But the Bolton how he scored, he wants to come back.

1911
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you know, okay, Howie. You know he's a

1912
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: hard man to read, so who knows? Sixty forty? All

1913
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: I say is if A. J. Brown is is out,

1914
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to know about it until

1915
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,440
Speaker 1: the time that he's out. Brandon Graham, Bo Wolf our friend,

1916
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: our friends. Now that we've had Brandon Graham on the

1917
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: show a couple of times from the Unblocked podcast, thank

1918
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: you very much.

1919
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 13: Appreciate guys.

1920
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 11: Go Berts.

1921
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: All right, that is it for the interviews today. That

1922
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: was Brandon Graham and Bo Wolf Delights. We've welcoming back.

1923
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: Nick shook to the stage everywhere to wrap this thing up.

1924
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: We started with you, Nick, and you stuck around with

1925
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, and then after Justin Jefferson got off the stage.

1926
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: You did what a real man should do, and you

1927
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: got his Madden handles. You guys can play later. We're

1928
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: not giving that thing out. But that was a good job.

1929
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 3: That's real journalism, big Jay journalism right there, getting the

1930
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 3: contact info, digging deep, getting the sources you can play

1931
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: on the virtual gridiron.

1932
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was just you know, being polite,

1933
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: but he seemed genuinely excited to play.

1934
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 4: Some I mean he took my phone and I was

1935
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 4: a witness.

1936
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: I might have to try to steal that and see

1937
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: if I can. That would be have a have a

1938
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: setup between Walker and Well, here's the thing.

1939
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 8: Maybe maybe justin I will will play.

1940
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 6: For Ida, let the relationship grow, and then we'll see.

1941
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not above trying to burn a relationship just

1942
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: for one moment of glory. What a show. Mac Jones

1943
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: was awesome. Jack's in Dark and in Brandon Graham. It's

1944
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 1: like big, big picture takeaway. You're saying that the kids

1945
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 1: are out of control, you being the kids and me

1946
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: being the dad.

1947
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, you can be a kid too if

1948
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 4: you want.

1949
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 6: You want at heart, you know that's heart. I feel

1950
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 6: like it. No, it was great. I loved it.

1951
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 7: We talked about big Philadelphia Eagles feelings with Brandon. He

1952
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 7: was very honest about kind of some of the dynamics

1953
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 7: net building. We talked to Jackson Dart about whether he's

1954
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 7: going to launch a negative smear campaign against Tyler Schuck,

1955
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 7: which he I thought that he his soul was going

1956
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 7: to leave his body when you asked him that question,

1957
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Speaker 7: but then he laughed.

1958
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

1959
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Speaker 6: And then we found out that Mac Jones' parents are

1960
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Speaker 6: big fans of.

1961
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Speaker 3: The show, so oh, which we love because we're big

1962
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Speaker 3: fans of Mac.

1963
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Speaker 1: Yes we are, and we see Actually as we're talking,

1964
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Speaker 1: I see him over literally live right now on NFL Network.

1965
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Speaker 1: I bet he had more fun with us. Yeah, he

1966
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Speaker 1: did ours first. What you're gonna have fun with Pallasaro

1967
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Speaker 1: and rap sheet in a couple of suits. Judy's over there,

1968
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Speaker 1: Judy's I specifically didn't mention Toy because I liked you.

1969
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Speaker 1: That's it. We have so many guests tomorrow, we might

1970
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Speaker 1: as well just say goodbye and set that up. It's

1971
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Speaker 1: kind of gonna be a preview show. It's gonna be

1972
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Speaker 1: a little different than most of our previews shows. We're

1973
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,959
Speaker 1: gonna have our preview, but that'll be a little condensed

1974
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Speaker 1: the three of us, and we'll also talk to some

1975
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Speaker 1: guests that can give perspective, some some players that just

1976
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Speaker 1: went against these teams, like like Garrett Bowls of the Denver.

1977
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Speaker 6: Bron very honest.

1978
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh and many more. Mad Dog will be

1979
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Speaker 1: joining us, Me and Shook and really looking forward to that.

1980
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun all week. Thank you everyone that

1981
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Speaker 1: is checking out NFL daily and yeah we're we got

1982
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Speaker 1: something else in the feed for you on Thursday.

1983
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Speaker 7: This day really got better after the way it started

1984
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Speaker 7: for me, Greg.

1985
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Speaker 1: That's true. Someone hit Jordan in the head with what

1986
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: was it, hydro flask. It was a bad omen and

1987
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Speaker 1: we've recovered. But see a Thursday