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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator is obviously hard. It is not easy all
Speaker 1: of us, whether you've worked in the NFL, whether you
Speaker 1: sell insurance, whether you just gamble a lot on football.
Speaker 1: We all can be very critical on our couch, powering
Speaker 1: down a gatorade and some popcorn. I'm no different than
Speaker 1: any of you. We all scream ubscenities constantly when guys
Speaker 1: call bad plays. But the second half of that game,
Speaker 1: the Texans against Seattle is an all time head scratcher,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna start with the winning team. Kubiak comes
Speaker 1: from a family, that is all. When you say the
Speaker 1: Kubiaks the Shanahans, all you think is running the ball,
Speaker 1: run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, and
Speaker 1: then pass it off. That and tonight it felt like
Speaker 1: he was hell bent on proving Sam Darnold is like
Speaker 1: an MVP candidate, even up double digit points in the
Speaker 1: second half against I don't know if they're the best
Speaker 1: defense we can determine based on different metrics. They are
Speaker 1: easily one of the most talented defenses in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and their two strengths are rushing the passer and dB play.
Speaker 1: Derek Stingley is like a Deon Sanders Durell Reeves level athlete.
Speaker 1: You're up big and you keep throwing the ball. It
Speaker 1: makes no sense. You got two good running backs. The
Speaker 1: only way and this goes back to the De Marcado
Speaker 1: play when the Titans came back. This goes back yesterday
Speaker 1: when the Giants imploded with Denver. The only way. Game
Speaker 1: like that, whether you have a big lead or you're
Speaker 1: playing an offense that's inept, they can come back, especially
Speaker 1: if there's twenty plus minutes on the clock left in
Speaker 1: the game. You have to give them a free possession.
Speaker 1: And Kubiak's calling these pass plays. I'd even go back
Speaker 1: to the touchdown that you know almost was a safety,
Speaker 1: but then they fell on it, so it was a touchdown.
Speaker 1: It's like you are asking Sam Darnold to throw backed
Speaker 1: up in his own end zone. You could blame Sam,
Speaker 1: he's doing like a three sixty in the end zone.
Speaker 1: You can't turn your back in that moment. But what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Why are we out thinking the room here?
Speaker 1: Just run the ball. Honestly, the two offensive coordinators tonight
Speaker 1: were the polar opposites. One guy, run the ball, run
Speaker 1: the ball, run the ball again, and run the ball again.
Speaker 1: And I thought, all night, Kubiak, and maybe it's Monday
Speaker 1: night football, you're trying to prove you're a star offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: I don't know him personally. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people that know him. They think really highly of him. Clearly,
Speaker 1: I think he's pretty talented. But I thought tonight he
Speaker 1: got really cute. You go to the first half, they
Speaker 1: are kicking the shit out of the Texans. Two touchdowns immediately,
Speaker 1: fourteen nothing. They're driving again. It's like you go up
Speaker 1: twenty one to nothing against that offense. The game is
Speaker 1: over and they are driving right down the field that
Speaker 1: they do not need to call trick plays. There is
Speaker 1: no trickeration needed. And he calls a double pass or
Speaker 1: a wide receiver pass, and Cooper cup throws an interception
Speaker 1: and I thought it just bled right into the second
Speaker 1: half of that should have been a game that his
Speaker 1: dad or the Shanahan family. That's a forty carry game.
Speaker 1: And I looked up until the last possession they had
Speaker 1: under thirty carries. It's like, it shouldn't have been a
Speaker 1: one to one ratio of passes in rush attempts. It
Speaker 1: should have been heavily as you got control and your
Speaker 1: defense is dominating. It's like, you know, it's very in
Speaker 1: vogue to go for it in the NFL all the time.
Speaker 1: And listen, I admired Dan Campbell. That's his style. He
Speaker 1: never waivers from it. He's pedaled to the medal one
Speaker 1: percent down. They're going for it one percent of the time.
Speaker 1: Even sometimes you're like Dan, I've probably just kicked the
Speaker 1: field goal here, He's like, fuck it, go for it.
Speaker 1: And it's like this is part of the deal. And
Speaker 1: in fairness to him, he's been consistent with it for years.
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, they mentioned this on the broadcast, Ain't ain't
Speaker 1: with that? Well, what is Mike? He's a defensive coach
Speaker 1: and what is Mike Half a fantastic defense also who's
Speaker 1: he playing? Kind of an inept offense? Why would you
Speaker 1: be overly aggressive on fourth down? Punt, kick, field goals,
Speaker 1: play defense. Try to score on me. Bet you can't.
Speaker 1: But the easiest way they can get back is turning
Speaker 1: the ball over. And I can imagine a night Mike
Speaker 1: McDonald's like God, I almost called him Garry is a Clint.
Speaker 1: The kubiak Son was just I thought he was bad
Speaker 1: in the second I thought it kept getting worse, and
Speaker 1: I get it early on. Uh, you know, Jackson Smith
Speaker 1: and Sam Darnold have like a Montana Rice connection. Right now,
Speaker 1: I saw a stat that Jackson Smith and Jigba has
Speaker 1: five games of over one hundred yards, which is tied
Speaker 1: for second most in franchise history. If he has one
Speaker 1: more game, that'll tie the record with Steve Large at
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. Now, I would say the history of
Speaker 1: Seattle teams don't exactly have the Randy Mosses and Jerry
Speaker 1: Rice's and Terrell Owens playing for him. But still like,
Speaker 1: this guy is going to break a lot of records
Speaker 1: for this franchise. He looks like a dominant force. But
Speaker 1: it felt as the game was going like you don't
Speaker 1: need to force feed this. It worked, you got your yardage,
Speaker 1: you got your points. Now let's just sit on it
Speaker 1: and let's bleed him dry and on the flip side, like, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not off Kubiak. I think he is a talented
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. But I think tonight's one of those where
Speaker 1: if you want to and they were a team that
Speaker 1: I sprinkle a little to win the division at five
Speaker 1: to one, and they clearly have the defensive talent. Their
Speaker 1: quarterback's pretty good, their skill guys, I mean that their
Speaker 1: running backs are really good. Horton to go with Jackson Smith,
Speaker 1: Like they got skills, and their coaching staff's excellent. They're
Speaker 1: head coach. If Mike was an offensive coordinator Mike McDonald
Speaker 1: instead of a defensive coordinator. I've been saying this for
Speaker 1: a couple of years now. We would talk about him
Speaker 1: like the media circle jerks Kevin O'Connell, like that's how
Speaker 1: and that's not a shot at Kevin O'Connell. I mean
Speaker 1: he's earned it, like he's a really good coach. But
Speaker 1: offensive guys get put on a pedestal. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at Sean, look at Kyle, look at Lafleur. I mean
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. You know, it's just look at the two
Speaker 1: old famous guys, Andy and Sean Payton. They're held to
Speaker 1: a higher standard than defensive guys. They just are. And
Speaker 1: because Mike's like this younger guy, but he's a dominant
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. There were stretches a night where he's calling
Speaker 1: blitzes and bringing pressures. In fairness to CJ, I don't
Speaker 1: know if like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would have
Speaker 1: understood where these pressures are coming from. He is elite
Speaker 1: at his job. So to me, if Kubiak in those
Speaker 1: type moments can get a little more conservative like Pops
Speaker 1: and play to his head coach's strength, I mean that team,
Speaker 1: the ceiling's pretty high. I mean the speed in which
Speaker 1: they have on defense. Obviously we know how good their
Speaker 1: home field advantages. Even though somehow the Niners won their
Speaker 1: Week one and clearly the NFC West now, I mean
Speaker 1: it's a three horse race. Now, I don't know if
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers can continue this. They're missing so
Speaker 1: many bodies. But all three teams are five and two.
Speaker 1: The coaching is elite, the culture is elite. It's you
Speaker 1: play those teams, you better buckle your chin strap. Now
Speaker 1: the Texans same thing, Demiko from Kyle uh Kubiak guy badass.
Speaker 1: Look at their defense. The Texans defense is top notch.
Speaker 1: I mean, Will Anderson is a certified ass kicker. Their
Speaker 1: defense is excellent. Their offense, though, is a tough watch.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this with some of these coordinators
Speaker 1: that we don't know that well and we start seeing
Speaker 1: them call players like something's off. Certain people are just
Speaker 1: not good at their job, right because some people are
Speaker 1: just lazy. They don't try, they don't care most times
Speaker 1: in football, like in that world in coach, it's not
Speaker 1: because guys aren't trying. It's not because guys don't study.
Speaker 1: It's not because guys. Honestly, if you just gave him
Speaker 1: a pen and got to the whiteboard. I bet the
Speaker 1: Texans offensive coordinator Nick Hayley, who was with Sean mcvagh
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, but really as a Patriot guy,
Speaker 1: would be really impressive. I bet he really knows ball.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to these games, you're watching it
Speaker 1: and you're going, what are you doing now? In fairness,
Speaker 1: his offense has some limitations. Their personnel on offense, the
Speaker 1: offensive line is not great. I mean they're playing their
Speaker 1: offensive their running backs, you know, major question mark because
Speaker 1: of some injuries. Right, Nico Collins gets hurt in the game. Listen,
Speaker 1: he's not playing with a full deck. But there were
Speaker 1: stretches to night. There was a third and fourth down
Speaker 1: stretch early in the second half where he called two
Speaker 1: basically like outside off tackle runs that got absolutely destroyed.
Speaker 1: It's one thing, listen, you want to call it one
Speaker 1: time on third down, I'm not gonna fault you, But
Speaker 1: then to basically just call the same exact play again
Speaker 1: and get the same result. It was insanity. And he
Speaker 1: did it again late in the game on the goal line.
Speaker 1: Luckily one of their guys like false started, so they
Speaker 1: got a free play. It was absolutely housed because at
Speaker 1: the point of attack, their offensive line is getting worked
Speaker 1: by a fantastic front, Seattle's front, led by Leonard Williams All.
Speaker 1: I mean, all their dbs are physical. Their linebackers are
Speaker 1: flying downhill and just triggering on the A and B
Speaker 1: gap and just come in to crack skulls. It's like,
Speaker 1: this is not gonna work now. And if you're not
Speaker 1: comfortable calling a quarterback sneak, which Orlowsky wanted him to call.
Speaker 1: Orlosky's like, dude, the Drew brees and leap over. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I cg comfortable doing that. I get it in theory
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. But if he's not
Speaker 1: comfortable doing it, you can't do it. But you cannot
Speaker 1: call these runs between the tackles in these short yard
Speaker 1: of situations. My mother, who's probably a sleep could tell
Speaker 1: you this is not gonna work. And he just kept
Speaker 1: calling him. It was baffling. Now you go, what are
Speaker 1: you supposed to call? I don't know, but you cannot
Speaker 1: call that. I understand you have limitations. You might as
Speaker 1: well just hand the ball and say this is not
Speaker 1: gonna work. So here, take the ball, and you guys
Speaker 1: bring your offense on the field. And we've seen this
Speaker 1: now around like they made a change in offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: because Bobby slowk was a disaster, and it looks the
Speaker 1: exact same. You could argue it looks even worse. And
Speaker 1: it's concerning because you know, I think what you feel
Speaker 1: pretty good about if you're John Schneider is you paid
Speaker 1: a lot of money, right, you won the move, You
Speaker 1: got rid of Gino, and you got Sam Donald. That
Speaker 1: is a massive upgrade, right, But then once you give
Speaker 1: Sam Donald the money, you're like, Okay, are you gonna
Speaker 1: play at a high level? And you're watching You're like,
Speaker 1: this is a Pro Bowl level guy. So you feel
Speaker 1: really good about that. You got this guy under contract
Speaker 1: who is going to be in the mix as long
Speaker 1: as he stays healthy for the next couple of years
Speaker 1: in our scheme to be a Pro Bowl player. You
Speaker 1: watch CJ Stroud, who how could you not have really
Speaker 1: loved him as a rookie? You go, we got this
Speaker 1: shooting star, we got this rocket ship. And now for
Speaker 1: last year and however many games this year, six or seven,
Speaker 1: You're going, what are we supposed to do? Well, I
Speaker 1: know what we're not doing based on what we're seeing,
Speaker 1: and I'm not blaming it all on him, but I've
Speaker 1: seen it happen in other organ We're not paying you
Speaker 1: after this year, so I don't want to hear from
Speaker 1: your agent expecting two hundred million dollars because that's an
Speaker 1: immediate hang up. Now I'm not say we're giving up
Speaker 1: on you, but this thing has just gone. And listen,
Speaker 1: CJ is still pretty talented and he can He made
Speaker 1: a great play late in the game, keeping a play alive,
Speaker 1: and he definitely has the physical characteristics. But you watch
Speaker 1: on certain plays, which again I do think you start
Speaker 1: losing your confidence as a young quarterback, which how would
Speaker 1: you not when you're constantly getting fucking hit. If you
Speaker 1: get hit over and over, you can't even think straight.
Speaker 1: And I think that he's just getting peppered so many
Speaker 1: times last year and a half, it's hard to even
Speaker 1: judge him. But now you're in this situation to be like, well,
Speaker 1: is this actually our guy? He clearly is not going
Speaker 1: anywhere next year, But it's just one of those questions
Speaker 1: now that's out there of like, we're not making the playoffs.
Speaker 1: We're two and four. We don't have the offense to
Speaker 1: rattle off a bunch of wins, and our defense couldn't
Speaker 1: be much better. I mean, it's a dominant defense. It's
Speaker 1: a lead. It's like a championship. If you gave a
Speaker 1: good offense to that defense, you'd be like, they're a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders. Why I listen, I'm wrong, I am.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you go on heaters and sometimes you just go
Speaker 1: on cold streaks, And that's what I'm on. From a
Speaker 1: gambling perspective, I'm just giving money away, and I had
Speaker 1: a couple of parlays and I set it to start
Speaker 1: the season. I anchored it to the Texans win in
Speaker 1: the South. That ain't gonna work because they're not winning
Speaker 1: the South the culture winning that with ease. But a
Speaker 1: huge reason that they're in this conundrum is their offense
Speaker 1: is atrocious. The personnel with their offensive line is just
Speaker 1: not good. And obviously when Nico goes out and they
Speaker 1: lose Tank last year to a major injury, that their
Speaker 1: skill position is just not exploded enough. I mean, you
Speaker 1: watch the previous game, the one that kicked off earlier,
Speaker 1: It's like there's way more explosive players in the Tampa
Speaker 1: Detroit game. That's what the offensive skill guys are supposed
Speaker 1: to look like. And you just wonder, like, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be an off season you're gonna fire your offensive coordinator again.
Speaker 1: You know, Mike McDaniel is a guy that Demiico worked
Speaker 1: with in San Francisco for years. Would feel like that
Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense. But Nick Cassario, who
Speaker 1: is you know, kind of the boss. I mean, a
Speaker 1: big reason they bring in this dude from you know
Speaker 1: that used to work in New England that there's some
Speaker 1: cohesion there that they know each other. So how much
Speaker 1: use does Demico have. It's just everything's just a little
Speaker 1: off kilter right now, and it's it all falls on
Speaker 1: the offense. Like the defense ain't the problem. Derek Stingley,
Speaker 1: Will Anderson are not the issues now. I'm not saying CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud is the issue, but he's part of the package
Speaker 1: with the offensive coordinator, with the personnel people, with the scheme.
Speaker 1: It's a nightmare. And that that game, how it was
Speaker 1: as close as it was, I don't know, probably the
Speaker 1: turnovers right what four to one and multiple turnovers in
Speaker 1: the second half by Seattle. But like I think you
Speaker 1: play that game ten times, especially in Seattle. I think
Speaker 1: Seattle wins it nine times. I think it would take
Speaker 1: a miracle. You know, it takes four or five turnovers
Speaker 1: for Houston to win that game. I think that's an
Speaker 1: awful mismatch because if you have a good defense, Seattle
Speaker 1: or Houston's gonna be in a lot of trouble. And
Speaker 1: in fairness to Houston, they got kind of screwed because
Speaker 1: I don't get on you know, when the schedule comes out,
Speaker 1: I don't make that big a deal with it, But
Speaker 1: once you're in the season, you kind of feel a
Speaker 1: flow to this to make a team that is. I've
Speaker 1: never flown from Seattle to Houston, but I googled it tonight.
Speaker 1: It's a four hour flight, so by the time that
Speaker 1: they will get on the charter and probably take off,
Speaker 1: it'll be close to my guests would be twelve thirty
Speaker 1: to one am Pacific standard time. Well, it takes four
Speaker 1: plus hours to get from Seattle to Houston, and there's
Speaker 1: a two hour time change because I'm pretty sure Houston
Speaker 1: Central time zone. So you're talking about them landing at
Speaker 1: seven am on Tuesday morning. Well, they play the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers on Sunday. So the forty nine ers, who
Speaker 1: had a night game the previous night, were at home.
Speaker 1: They've slept, they had a normal work day to day,
Speaker 1: and the Texans coaches are gonna be absolutely fried by
Speaker 1: the time they land. They're gonna have to go right
Speaker 1: to work. So the scheduling gods did not throw the
Speaker 1: Texans a bone making them play this double Listen Monday
Speaker 1: night football. Sometimes you get home late, it's part of
Speaker 1: the deal. Typically the game they would be in the
Speaker 1: air right now right, But because of this doubleheader, you
Speaker 1: don't even kick off till a little after seven pm
Speaker 1: Pacific Standard time. I can't even speak, it's so late.
Speaker 1: But they did get royally screwed on that so big
Speaker 1: win by Seattle, and I think Seattle, I think they're
Speaker 1: pretty good. I really do. It comes to the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator just being a little more conservative and just relying
Speaker 1: on the run game that they're gonna be. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough out because defensively, in that scheme and
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Speaker 1: Speaking of the first game, I've never been that bothered
Speaker 1: by the transfer portal, and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: the way that we discuss. It is based on college
Speaker 1: for football, right players and coaches and people bitching and
Speaker 1: people complaining or people celebrating it, or however, from a
Speaker 1: college lens, I want to look at the transfer portal
Speaker 1: from an NFL lens and from an NFL GM and
Speaker 1: coaching perspective. I actually think it's the best thing that's
Speaker 1: ever happened in the scouting community, and I think it's
Speaker 1: really benefited a lot of players. And Jamier Gibbs, who
Speaker 1: was by far the best player in the Tampa Lions game,
Speaker 1: directly benefited from the transfer portal because he went to
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech his first two years and he was good.
Speaker 1: But then the transfer portal existed and he transferred to
Speaker 1: Alabama and he had multiple huge games in the SEC,
Speaker 1: and he ended up getting drafted twelfth overall by the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. And let's remember when they drafted him, a
Speaker 1: lot of people thought they were crazy. And if you
Speaker 1: just look at his stats, it's not like he was
Speaker 1: rushing for fifteen hundred yards a year at Georgia Tech,
Speaker 1: and even as you're at Alabama, I don't even think
Speaker 1: he ran for a thousand yards. Now he could catch
Speaker 1: the ball so he was a virgatile player, but like
Speaker 1: it was much more of a projection. But think how
Speaker 1: much easier it was to project a player at Alabama
Speaker 1: than it was at Georgia Tech. And this isn't Brent
Speaker 1: Key Georgia Tech. This is like twenty nineteen twenty Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1: So this is a team that I promise you this
Speaker 1: if the transfer portal hadn't existed and he had just
Speaker 1: had to ride out his time at Georgia Tech, Jamior
Speaker 1: Gibbs not only is it the twelfth overall pick, He's
Speaker 1: got a first round pick, No freaking way. And I
Speaker 1: think sometimes the transfer portal for the guys that go
Speaker 1: to bigger schools that leave a smaller school go to
Speaker 1: the bigger school, they could shoot up like a rocket ship,
Speaker 1: because when you transfer to some of these SEC schools
Speaker 1: or these big ten schools, you're just playing in bigger games.
Speaker 1: More people are watching it, there are more scouts and attendance.
Speaker 1: They're being more highly dissected in draft meetings and lead
Speaker 1: up to the combine, in lead up to the pro
Speaker 1: day when the coaches get involved. And I think Jamiir
Speaker 1: Gibbs is a great example of a guy that and
Speaker 1: might have been one of the truly first big like
Speaker 1: explosive risers from making a move in the portal. And
Speaker 1: you watch him tonight. I mean, he is just a
Speaker 1: spectacular talent. I've always said, like the last thing you
Speaker 1: need as a running back, like you don't need Jamiir
Speaker 1: Gibbs high end speed to be a great player at
Speaker 1: running back. You don't need to be a four to
Speaker 1: three guy. You don't need to be Adrian Peterson. Frank
Speaker 1: Gore probably ran a four to six. You can be
Speaker 1: an exceptional running back and not have David Montgomery. You
Speaker 1: don't need great top end speed, but if you have it,
Speaker 1: you can be a major problem. And we saw last
Speaker 1: year with Sakwon Barkley had what six' seven runs of
Speaker 1: over sixty yards and you saw to night give like
Speaker 1: that thing you know opens like The Red sea and
Speaker 1: he's just out the gate and when you're that, fast
Speaker 1: no one is catching. You AND i would, imagine Beside Jamison,
Speaker 1: williams there's not a guy on the offense faster than,
Speaker 1: him and he's just that. Pick like watching them the
Speaker 1: night AND i THINK i said this last, week there
Speaker 1: is not a better group of skill players in THE
Speaker 1: nfl than the one The Detroit lions. Have when you
Speaker 1: factor in their two running, backs they're tight, end and
Speaker 1: they're two, receivers and you could argue three. Receivers it
Speaker 1: is just it's the best group in the. League and
Speaker 1: their quarterback's pretty damn. Good now he has some. Limitations
Speaker 1: he can't, move he's not gonna be scrambling around like
Speaker 1: He's Sam darnold OR. Cj. Stroud but if you can protect,
Speaker 1: them which they kind of, can you're gonna get slicing.
Speaker 1: Diced and, honestly they weren't even that good on. Offense
Speaker 1: the story of the game is the. Defense we'll get
Speaker 1: into them in a, second but it hits me every
Speaker 1: time that It's Monday night football and this team's now
Speaker 1: five and. TWO i don't think we Give Dan campbell
Speaker 1: enough credit for resurrecting a. Franchise you can't even resurrect
Speaker 1: something because it never. WAS i, mean The Detroit lions
Speaker 1: were the biggest joke franchise of the last thirty. Years
Speaker 1: no team lost more in the two thousands and the
Speaker 1: twenty tens in The Detroit. Lions and he hasn't just
Speaker 1: turned them into a good. Team he's turned them into
Speaker 1: a league. Power, like they have as good a chance
Speaker 1: as any team in THE nfc to be in THE Nfc.
Speaker 1: Championship they have as good a, chance you would say
Speaker 1: watching them is any to be in The Super bowl
Speaker 1: representing THE. Nfc, Obviously they're big variable is health and
Speaker 1: this is back to back. Years it kind of hit me.
Speaker 1: TONIGHT i think one similarity that you, KNOW i Think
Speaker 1: Kyle shanahan and the forty nine ers really deal with.
Speaker 1: THIS i think when you're a run heavy team and
Speaker 1: you have a coach who preaches physicality and, practice you
Speaker 1: know these guys the rules are not on your, side
Speaker 1: so it's not like you build up the. Calluses AND
Speaker 1: i do wonder if the physicality that you have in
Speaker 1: practice and the games just kind of leads to guys
Speaker 1: dropping like. Flies because The lions a lot like the
Speaker 1: forty Nine. Ers it's just every, game guys just on the,
Speaker 1: ground guys, injured random guys. Up it's pretty. Crazy but
Speaker 1: a lot Like Sunday night with a mass, unit and
Speaker 1: Even Troy aikman said the night you could Tell Troy
Speaker 1: aikman was in just had nothing but like admiration for
Speaker 1: What Kelvin shepherd and the effort that The lions random
Speaker 1: defensive players were. Doing and we have seen this back
Speaker 1: to back years, now and this is Where Dan campbell
Speaker 1: deserves a lot of. Credit one Thing i've always said
Speaker 1: About Jim harbaugh hires really good coaches because at the
Speaker 1: end of the, day like he's Not Mike, shanahan you,
Speaker 1: know he's Not Todd, bowles like he's not calling any.
Speaker 1: Place he's a leader and his best, ability like to,
Speaker 1: lead is to put guys in position to run the
Speaker 1: offense of the. Defense and he's always been really good at,
Speaker 1: that going back to Like San, Diego, stanford the forty nine,
Speaker 1: Ers and one Thing Dan campbell has proven now Like
Speaker 1: Johnny morriton has been pretty. Good you can't really dispute
Speaker 1: IT'S i don't want to say he's the Next Ben
Speaker 1: johnson because he's much, older but it hasn't been that
Speaker 1: big of a drop, off and tonight like they were
Speaker 1: a little. Off BUT i would say over the course
Speaker 1: of the last three or four weeks they've been good on,
Speaker 1: offense but defensively to Lose Aaron, glenn who clearly is
Speaker 1: having some struggles In New, york don't blame him most
Speaker 1: people do is to watch essentially the same guy Because
Speaker 1: kelvin sheperd former. Player Remember Dan campbell said when he
Speaker 1: was coaching In miami And kelvin was a, Player he's,
Speaker 1: like this guy's gonna be a fantastic coach to identify those,
Speaker 1: guys to then hire those, guys and then to start
Speaker 1: them low and build them up and then put them
Speaker 1: in a position where because defense is really about two, things,
Speaker 1: right you got to under stand the schematics of, it,
Speaker 1: Right Vic, Fangio Bill, belichick, like really understand the, detail
Speaker 1: especially in this day and age playing the offenses that
Speaker 1: all the officiating and the rules are on their. Side
Speaker 1: the league wants to see, point so you're at a huge.
Speaker 1: Disadvantage so from a detail, standpoint like you gotta be
Speaker 1: every bit is dialed in on the x's nose as
Speaker 1: the offensive. Guys but then you kind of got to
Speaker 1: be a crazy motherfucker and be a little off your.
Speaker 1: Rocker and there's a motivational element to defense that there
Speaker 1: just really isn't with. Offense offense is much more, cerebral
Speaker 1: maybe with the offensive, line but the offensive unit as a,
Speaker 1: whole it's not nearly the. Same and that's an element
Speaker 1: of motivation of personality that it's they're kind of the, same,
Speaker 1: Right most high level defensive coordinators and defensive guys are
Speaker 1: pretty intense. Dudes and to go From Aaron glen to
Speaker 1: this has been really. Impressive And Dan campbell deserves a
Speaker 1: lot of credit because him And Brad holmes took JUST
Speaker 1: i mean a trash, franchise an irrelevant. Franchise Even Troy
Speaker 1: aikman mentioned a, Night he's, like it's. Crazy now we
Speaker 1: have done these last couple of, years Multiple monday night.
Speaker 1: Games for, YEARS i never touched this team beside On,
Speaker 1: thanksgiving and now they are just a stalwart of like
Speaker 1: you need a big, game throw The lions in, there
Speaker 1: especially at, home and they do not. Disappoint it feels.
Speaker 1: Big their team pops the talent on the. ROSTER i,
Speaker 1: mean this goes back to THE gm done a fantastic.
Speaker 1: JOB i, mean we know about their. Offense, Defensively Aiden
Speaker 1: hutchinson is just an awesome. Player Jack campbell had a
Speaker 1: nice play tonight on. Coverage they've just done a really
Speaker 1: good job and they're obviously missing a ton of guys
Speaker 1: suspended because of he Attacked juju last. Week but he'll be.
Speaker 1: Back he's a, baller And i'm Just i'm just really
Speaker 1: really impressed with The lions and everything they got. Going
Speaker 1: and there's not much for me to say About, tampa
Speaker 1: like they were bound to have a bad. Game pretty.
Speaker 1: Devastating Mike, evans WHO i had to google his. Contract
Speaker 1: he signed a two year deal two years, ago so
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a free agent at the end of this.
Speaker 1: Year to come back from the hamstring injury and to
Speaker 1: break your collar bone and get a concussion on the same,
Speaker 1: play the way he was laying down for a long,
Speaker 1: time you, knew like this is not. Good and obviously
Speaker 1: the information coming out that it's six to eight weeks
Speaker 1: and just a bad, deal and a lot of people
Speaker 1: asking me you think he's played his last game as
Speaker 1: a as A. BUCK i don't. KNOW i, mean the
Speaker 1: collarbone's not a career ending, injury but you start having
Speaker 1: some of these hamstring, injuries, concussion. Collarbone you've made enough,
Speaker 1: Money you've won A Super. BOWL i could see him
Speaker 1: coming back To tampa on like a one year cheaper.
Speaker 1: DEAL i have a hard time seeing him finish somewhere.
Speaker 1: Else but that was tough And tampa's another, team a
Speaker 1: lot like The, lions a lot like the forty nine,
Speaker 1: Ers like you can just only have so many. Injuries
Speaker 1: eventually it's, like what's going on here and you just
Speaker 1: run out of Juice and typically that happens on the,
Speaker 1: road and that's what happened. Tonight they just looked. Off
Speaker 1: they just were not. Good AND i would say that
Speaker 1: not that big a, deal and it's time to rally the.
Speaker 1: Troops and luckily you're in a division WITH i saw
Speaker 1: a clip today Of Raheem morris on a big third
Speaker 1: down last. Night they had ten guys on the. Field it's,
Speaker 1: like that's that's that's the team that you have to
Speaker 1: worry about in your. Division that, team you, Know Carolina,
Speaker 1: panthers feisty. Squad BUT i don't Think tampa's losing sleep over.
Speaker 1: Them and obviously The saints are, Terrible so, Listen damp
Speaker 1: a bad, game but when the dust, settles gonna be.
Speaker 1: OKAY a couple other. Things Drake greenlaw got, suspended he
Speaker 1: missed basically got. Injured they got injured in the. Offseason
Speaker 1: then he got INJURED i think again in training camp
Speaker 1: with the quad and he has been out the entire
Speaker 1: season up until last, week where he looked pretty rusty
Speaker 1: and at the end of the game when they kicked
Speaker 1: the game winning field, goal he like b lined into
Speaker 1: the referee started screaming at. Him AND i didn't see.
Speaker 1: THIS i guess In Bronco, land maybe that moment had
Speaker 1: gone viral by a guy that covers the team had
Speaker 1: like filmed. It and then today it was announced that
Speaker 1: he's been suspended for a game for verbally attacking a.
Speaker 1: Referee to, me unless you said LIKE i want to
Speaker 1: murder you and your entire, Family i've said this for
Speaker 1: a long. TIME i have a really hard time in
Speaker 1: professional sports If i'm swearing at, you even if it's
Speaker 1: not like you could argue it's not. Appropriate, yeah there
Speaker 1: are a lot of inappropriate things that happen in pro,
Speaker 1: sports AND i think there better be a very distinct
Speaker 1: line that has to get crossed for you to suspend
Speaker 1: and doc a game check away from me as a.
Speaker 1: Player AND i know that he. Is you know they're
Speaker 1: contesting it with THE, nflpa BUT i gotta know what
Speaker 1: is specifically said to feel comfortable, Going, yeah you deserve
Speaker 1: to be. SUSPENDED i got no. Problem, listen we got
Speaker 1: to have some rules and regulations and some. Discipline you
Speaker 1: can't just be attacking. Referees totally understand. It it's like
Speaker 1: anytime you hear AN nba coach, Like i'm gonna get fined,
Speaker 1: here But i'm gonna go in on the. Referees this
Speaker 1: is part of the. Game twenty thousand, dollars, fine, Whatever
Speaker 1: even THOUGH i think we just throw fine numbers, AROUND
Speaker 1: i just dock them fifty, grand, Oh Jonathan gannon one hundred,
Speaker 1: Grand like there's a lot of. Money this is net,
Speaker 1: income not gross. Income so whatever you're taxed on then
Speaker 1: they take it away from. THAT i think a lot
Speaker 1: of these fine systems players coaches is batshit. Crazy but
Speaker 1: UNLESS i hear something and, listen it takes a lot
Speaker 1: to offend. Me it better be pretty egregious to suspend
Speaker 1: the guy and dock him a game check for a.
Speaker 1: Game IF i Was Dre, Greenlaw i'd be posting WHAT i,
Speaker 1: said trying to get the you, know public on my.
Speaker 1: SIDE a couple other quick. Things Brandon graham is going
Speaker 1: to return at least all signs. Point i'm recording this
Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock at night On monday. Night The eagles
Speaker 1: are desperate for a little outside pass rush playing The
Speaker 1: Giants Jackson. Dart all signs point To Brandon graham coming.
Speaker 1: BACK i can't Imagine brandon and home with his. Family
Speaker 1: think he's got a couple of young, kids probably a little,
Speaker 1: board and he, Goes, Wait jeffrey And howie just called.
Speaker 1: Me they said they'll pay you five hundred grand a
Speaker 1: game you know or, whatever you, know pro rated ten million. Dollars,
Speaker 1: Well i'm just not doing that much. Else, now WHAT
Speaker 1: i would wonder is what has he been doing. PHYSICALLY
Speaker 1: i would, guess like most you, know young healthy, adults
Speaker 1: he's working. Out but there's a big difference like going
Speaker 1: to the, gym getting a little, pump getting an, ollimptical
Speaker 1: getting a little walk on a ten, incline and like
Speaker 1: training to get after offensive. Tackles so if he has
Speaker 1: specifically been training over the LAST i don't, know six
Speaker 1: months to just maintain his uh not even just his physical,
Speaker 1: stature but just MY nfl, Pedigree i'd be impressed AND
Speaker 1: i have a lot of respect for him if his
Speaker 1: training has maintained the same level of intensity as it
Speaker 1: would have over the course of his, career Because i'd
Speaker 1: be hard. Pressed you just retire and you just maintain that.
Speaker 1: Training maybe just a physical, freak but he is an older,
Speaker 1: player shows you they're a little desperate and last but not,
Speaker 1: least it's tough time to be A giants. Fan it's
Speaker 1: better than being A jets, fan but it's. TOUGH i
Speaker 1: mean that, game, obviously it's In one of the main
Speaker 1: talking points of all the football world is The giants
Speaker 1: blowing that game to The. BRONCOS i will say. THIS
Speaker 1: i want to BECAUSE i defended Day, ball not BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i think he's like doing some bang up. Job it's just,
Speaker 1: listen you gotta let the coach that hand picked the
Speaker 1: quarterback give him a little. Runway IF i would have
Speaker 1: told you six months ago that we would be close
Speaker 1: To halloween and there's not a soul in THE, nfl
Speaker 1: including The, titans that would take Cam ward Over Jackson,
Speaker 1: dart you would have had a big smile on your
Speaker 1: face been, like are you? Serious how good is this?
Speaker 1: Looking AND i do think we could sit here today
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i saw stat that Since Jackson dart was inserted
Speaker 1: in the starting lineup that The giants are averaging over
Speaker 1: twenty five points a game and that would rank them
Speaker 1: six in THE. Nfl so, like, offensively, clearly they are
Speaker 1: as fun of an offense as they've had in a
Speaker 1: long long. Time even the year that they made the,
Speaker 1: playoffs when they went nine to eight With Daniel, jones
Speaker 1: didn't he throw like fifteen touchdowns that? Year it's not
Speaker 1: like he threw thirty. Eight it's not like he Had
Speaker 1: Sam darnold's season last year with The Minnesota. Vikings so,
Speaker 1: like if you're gonna need and sometimes when times are,
Speaker 1: dark we've all been down in the dumps for different
Speaker 1: shit in our, life whether it's just, personally, professionally, whatever
Speaker 1: you just need to find a bright. Spot AND i
Speaker 1: do think the bright spot right now is did we
Speaker 1: get the best quarterback in the? Draft did? We because
Speaker 1: if there was a redraft right? Now and, Listen i'm
Speaker 1: not acting LIKE i Hated Cam moore AND i liked.
Speaker 1: HIM i thought he'd be a good. PLAYER i bet
Speaker 1: on them the first three. Weeks watching the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks a little hard to, judge but he there's
Speaker 1: no disputing he looks. Terrible he looks completely. Overwhelmed it's
Speaker 1: a tough. Watch now it could be A jared goff
Speaker 1: situation back With Jeff, fisher your two McVeigh comes in
Speaker 1: and becomes a great. Player So i'm not right in
Speaker 1: the guy's obituary and saying he's a. Bust but it's
Speaker 1: not going. Well people are getting. Fired, hey that building
Speaker 1: is in, shambles and while the giants aff a, LOSS
Speaker 1: i do think you need to look somewhat optimistically to.
Speaker 1: GO i think we hit on the. Quarterback CAN i
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Speaker 1: we really going to be glazing The chiefs all week
Speaker 1: because they blew out The raiders at? Home not saying
Speaker 1: The chiefs don't look good and especially better than they
Speaker 1: did the beginning of the, year but come, on The
Speaker 1: raiders are a garbage. Fire. Listen two things can be.
Speaker 1: True One raiders got some. Problems i'm sure we will
Speaker 1: address them more as the season takes, shape because it's
Speaker 1: getting uglier by the. Week didn't even have one hundred
Speaker 1: yards of. Offense BUT i do think The chiefs being
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't, know getting their swag back is a
Speaker 1: pretty big story when they've been to Five Super bowls
Speaker 1: in six years and the year they missed, it they
Speaker 1: lost in THE Afc Championship game where they had a
Speaker 1: lead at. Halftime so it's like they are a major
Speaker 1: factor in this league for a reason that they win
Speaker 1: the division every, year WHICH i think was in question
Speaker 1: for the first. Time your, boy just on, value not
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i root for The. CHIEFS i got a bunch
Speaker 1: of friends on the, team BUT i was texted with
Speaker 1: a couple of, them like they played really well on,
Speaker 1: offense and that's an area in which last year was a.
Speaker 1: Struggle you, Know Hollywood, Brown thornton obviously the running. Game
Speaker 1: adding this Rookie, smith like they got a lot going for,
Speaker 1: him and their rookie offensive tackle hasn't played in a
Speaker 1: couple weeks and he's one of the better rookies in the.
Speaker 1: League BECAUSE i don't even know the actual Situation i've
Speaker 1: read the reports that are public to, Everybody so who
Speaker 1: knows how that situation is going to figure itself. Out
Speaker 1: but IF i was A chiefs, Fan i'd be pretty fired.
Speaker 1: Up i'd like my, Chances i'll tell you that. Much
Speaker 1: do you think The, niners this From troy should Put purty?
Speaker 1: Down now that we know the toe is going to require,
Speaker 1: surgery shouldn't they just do it as opposed to waiting
Speaker 1: until the offseason what might prevent, him which might prevent
Speaker 1: him for the start of. CAMP i hear what you're,
Speaker 1: Saying but these, teams and specifically these players live like
Speaker 1: year to. YEAR i just have little to no hope
Speaker 1: that whenever he, does if he comes back this week
Speaker 1: or next, week he's just going to reinjure the. Tow
Speaker 1: so you just play for a game to reinjure. IT
Speaker 1: i think he HAS i don't even know the right,
Speaker 1: way the right adjective to describe, it but emotionally he's probably,
Speaker 1: PRETTY i don't, know torn up about. It he gets
Speaker 1: all this money and then he just can't, play and
Speaker 1: then he tries to play and it's one of those
Speaker 1: injuries like turf toe and a bunch of players have
Speaker 1: come out and like defended it because it doesn't sound
Speaker 1: sounds like stubbing your, toe which we all know hurts a.
Speaker 1: Lot but at least when you break an, arm or
Speaker 1: you dislocate an elbow or you get a high ankle,
Speaker 1: sprain it's pretty. Definitive it's like turf. Toe, yeah just
Speaker 1: hurts like a mother like the PAIN i reinjure it
Speaker 1: WHEN i attempt, to you, know to. Play it's impossible
Speaker 1: to overcome WITHOUT i guess the, surgery WHICH i didn't
Speaker 1: EVEN i haven't read that, anywhere BUT i would guess
Speaker 1: that he would knee surgery at the end of the.
Speaker 1: Season it just. SUCKS i, mean it really. Does he
Speaker 1: was poised to have a big, season, obviously got paid
Speaker 1: a ton of money that was based on his previous,
Speaker 1: work and now Mac jones is kind of carrying the
Speaker 1: team from a quarterback standpoint because party can't. PLAY i
Speaker 1: just have a little to no faith that like it's
Speaker 1: gonna go. Away so, yeah you can get, surgery but
Speaker 1: he is not going to agree to, that no. Chance
Speaker 1: and the team clearly like they have nine months in the,
Speaker 1: offseason so they'll just be, like, yeah let's write it.
Speaker 1: Out see if we can battle through it and figure this,
Speaker 1: out that's WHAT i think their mindset is gonna, be
Speaker 1: which clearly is their mindset right. Now we're in toward
Speaker 1: the end Of. October as A New York giants, fan
Speaker 1: this team has an issue of being up and down
Speaker 1: every single week like a yacht in a. Hurricane what
Speaker 1: do you think The giants should, do not just this,
Speaker 1: season but in the future of building Around dart and
Speaker 1: hopefully neighbors when he's rehabbing. Back why said this on
Speaker 1: The Reaction pod On Sunday, Night and this is, tough.
Speaker 1: Right it. Sucks this team loses a. LOT i, mean
Speaker 1: that's a pretty legendary. LOSS i THINK i heard the record.
Speaker 1: Somewhere it was a lot of games for a team
Speaker 1: that had an eighteen point lead WITH i think under
Speaker 1: seven minutes to, go they don't. LOSE i mean it's like,
Speaker 1: statistically it's, listen like the De morcado, play you needed
Speaker 1: a touchdown or you needed a turnover to allow the
Speaker 1: team to come back because it was impossible if the
Speaker 1: game just went you get some, plays we get some.
Speaker 1: Plays you couldn't overcome eighteen to, nothing twenty six to.
Speaker 1: Eight you just didn't have enough time on the clock
Speaker 1: And dark gave him a. Turnover but, ultimately like the
Speaker 1: best part about The Dart scataboo experience is they're not
Speaker 1: just fun like they're really you, Know scataboo is a
Speaker 1: good player And dart from a hope, standpoint like the
Speaker 1: physical attributes the arm, strength the playmaking can be a little,
Speaker 1: reckless but most young players are taking some hits that
Speaker 1: you would like to. AVOID i do think they were
Speaker 1: in a tough spot with the coach because my take
Speaker 1: was Like i'd give Day ball another. Year you're gonna
Speaker 1: fire him and just start over with this. Crew because
Speaker 1: whoever is an assistant coach or a guy a retread
Speaker 1: to try to get The giants. Job of course they're
Speaker 1: gonna SAY i Love dark and honestly they might be
Speaker 1: intrigued by, him but if it doesn't go well for,
Speaker 1: them they'll pivot on. Them and the same thing happened
Speaker 1: With Daniel jones And brian A. Ball sometimes you just
Speaker 1: gotta let it play out a little, bit AND i
Speaker 1: think it's easy to counter that and, go, Well, john
Speaker 1: they lose all the. Time you, know a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago they had a high pick when they got.
Speaker 1: Neighbors last year they had a high pick when they
Speaker 1: Got Abdul. Carter just never, ends and it's. Frustrating it.
Speaker 1: Sucks you, know watching a football team not be good
Speaker 1: is not fun because there's a build up each week and,
Speaker 1: then like The giants are, doing they kind of tease
Speaker 1: you that they give a little just the, tip and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you lose one of the craziest
Speaker 1: games of all. TIME i, mean that's honestly one of
Speaker 1: the craziest Endings i've ever. SEEN i think we can
Speaker 1: all agree for all of our years watching, football depending
Speaker 1: on how old you, are that is as crazy of
Speaker 1: a fourth quarter as you will ever. SEE i don't
Speaker 1: have the, answer. Though my initial reaction IS i would
Speaker 1: give Day ball next year and just give him basically
Speaker 1: two years With dart HIGH iq guy, Here my question
Speaker 1: for you is what happens for a team during the bye.
Speaker 1: WEEK i know high end veteran players take time off
Speaker 1: travel Ie travis when he went to The Taylor Swift,
Speaker 1: Tour but what about non? Starters some practice players do
Speaker 1: facilities stay open to work out and? Such what about?
Speaker 1: Coaches do they continue to grind and watch film as
Speaker 1: a former, scout did you get time off as? WELL
Speaker 1: i think the NEW cba in twenty eleven mandated that
Speaker 1: on a bye week THAT i don't know if It's
Speaker 1: wednesday Through sunday Or thursday Through, sunday but like it's
Speaker 1: mandatory the players are they have to get be given time. Off,
Speaker 1: now you can choose if you're a, player to come
Speaker 1: in and get a workout. In but once It's October,
Speaker 1: november a couple days to get. AWAY i, mean you've
Speaker 1: been training really year, round, Right SO i think most
Speaker 1: players tend to get. AWAY i think you see if
Speaker 1: you watch football On, saturdays you'll see a lot of
Speaker 1: guys like At alabama or At Ohio state typically that's
Speaker 1: their bye, week and younger, players you, know go back
Speaker 1: to like homecoming or a big college. Game some guys
Speaker 1: just you, know older player probably hangs out with their.
Speaker 1: FAMILY i would say most. Coaches you, know it depends
Speaker 1: where you are in the totem. Pole, right if you
Speaker 1: are a quality control, guy which would be the lowest
Speaker 1: guy in the totem, pole you're probably coming in a
Speaker 1: Little Thursday friday to break, down break down some film
Speaker 1: of your upcoming, opponent and Maybe, sunday the day of
Speaker 1: the game in which the team that you're gonna play
Speaker 1: the next week is. Playing but the head, coach the,
Speaker 1: coordinators THE GM i think they. Are they're spending a
Speaker 1: couple of days with their, family going to you, know
Speaker 1: their kids high school football, game hanging with their. WIFE
Speaker 1: i don't really such a long time ago, NOW i
Speaker 1: probably just went home and, Slept but it's pretty relaxing
Speaker 1: for a couple of. Days and by that time when
Speaker 1: you get to the bye, week, right let's just say
Speaker 1: your bye week is this. Week you have been grinding
Speaker 1: like seven days a, week especially as a coach or
Speaker 1: you know someone in the front office legitimately seven days
Speaker 1: a week Since july. Twentieth so like you don't get.
Speaker 1: Listen there are a lot of positives and awesome perks
Speaker 1: of coming with the public, job i. E the. Money you,
Speaker 1: know these coaches make a, ton gms make a. Ton
Speaker 1: but you don't have a normal. Schedule you're not Working
Speaker 1: monday Through friday and doing Nothing Saturday. SUNDAY i mean
Speaker 1: you're Working monday Through sunday and traveling a. Lot like
Speaker 1: it's it's a pretty big. Grind you don't sleep, much
Speaker 1: SO i think the bye week is everyone's taking a deep. Breath,
Speaker 1: ideally your team's doing pretty well and you can enjoy.
Speaker 1: It if your team, sucks you're probably thinking about your
Speaker 1: future and you might get. Fired so it's, yeah kind
Speaker 1: of crazy, profession but it's usually a very relaxed. Time
Speaker 1: the re emergence Of Daniel jones And Saquon barkley doing
Speaker 1: really well In? Philadelphia does this help The giants and
Speaker 1: hurt the? Coach does this help The GIANTS gm and
Speaker 1: hurt the? COACH i don't think The GIANTS Gm Joe
Speaker 1: shane drafted either, guy, right didn't they inherit both players.
Speaker 1: Didn't Dave gettleman Draft Daniel jones And Saquon. BARKLEY i
Speaker 1: know he Drafted Saquon barkley BECAUSE i remember when he,
Speaker 1: did he said he was drafting A hall Of famer
Speaker 1: and HE'S i don't know If saquon's gonna make The
Speaker 1: hall Of, fame but he wasn't. Wrong, Like saquon's A
Speaker 1: hall Of fame, talent And Daniel jones one of the
Speaker 1: most maligned polarizing draft. PICKS i would, say of like
Speaker 1: my adult, LIFE i, mean Taking Daniel jones and six
Speaker 1: was pretty, bold but looks pretty good right, Now like
Speaker 1: gonna leave the cults of the, playoffs that's for damn.
Speaker 1: SURE i think it's easier to stomach With saquon And
Speaker 1: scataboo or excuse, Me dart In, scataboo like those. Guys
Speaker 1: part of, like it's easier to forget the girl that dumped,
Speaker 1: you or the girl you dumped if she starts doing
Speaker 1: well when you start dating someone. Else if you're alone
Speaker 1: and lonely and scrolling On instagram and she's with her
Speaker 1: dude In hawaii Or New york or, wherever having the
Speaker 1: time of her life posting, pictures it seasy to be
Speaker 1: down in the. Dumps but, like If i'm A giants,
Speaker 1: FAN i. Go we Got skataboo And, dart so it
Speaker 1: was fun. HAVING i, mean Obviously saquan's a better player Than,
Speaker 1: scataboo but, like why Couldn't dart be better Than Daniel?
Speaker 1: Jones SO i think it's easier to move on when
Speaker 1: you've replaced those guys with kind of fan favorite. Players
Speaker 1: SO i would say last, YEAR i MEAN i remember
Speaker 1: saying It, Saquon, now DID i know he's gonna go
Speaker 1: for two thousand yards and they were gonna win The Super. Bowl,
Speaker 1: no but there was no way if he was, healthy
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna have a good season behind an unreal offensive.
Speaker 1: LINE Aj, Brown DeVante, Smith Dallas goddard And Jalen hurts
Speaker 1: like it was gonna. Work, now obviously it worked to
Speaker 1: the best degree, possible BUT i don't, think, uh like
Speaker 1: if those guys got stayed employed after, That like The
Speaker 1: Daniel jones. Thing Daniel jones been on a couple different,
Speaker 1: teams right they cut him last year he went To
Speaker 1: minnesota like a lot of other teams could have had.
Speaker 1: Him you could argue the biggest question mark is why
Speaker 1: do some teams that needed a, quarterback why weren't they
Speaker 1: more interested In we've had back to back years now
Speaker 1: Where Sam donald ten million, dollars maybe it's four years
Speaker 1: or three years in a. ROW i. Forgot i'd have
Speaker 1: to google When baker got his like three year on
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar. Contract But baker was on a five
Speaker 1: million dollar deal or four million dollar, deal became a
Speaker 1: long term. Starter Sam donald was on a one, year
Speaker 1: ten million dollar. Deal was had one of the best
Speaker 1: seasons in the league last, year and Now Daniel jones
Speaker 1: is on a one, year fourteen million dollar. Contract the
Speaker 1: difference Of Daniel jones And sam is like The Colt.
Speaker 1: Saint Letting Daniel jones go, anywhere it'll be A Baker mayfield.
Speaker 1: Situation he's, staying and rightfully. So this was a LONG
Speaker 1: dm From christian basically arguing with his buddy About Joe,
Speaker 1: burrow and he, said my buddy is convinced that almost
Speaker 1: all of the blames should go To Joe. Burrow he
Speaker 1: justifies his stance by throwing a bunch of advanced stats at.
Speaker 1: Me for, example he tells me That burrow is sacked
Speaker 1: around twenty four percent of the time that he faces,
Speaker 1: pressure While mahomes And Josh allen their rates are ten
Speaker 1: percent and fourteen percent, percent. Respectively he uses stats like
Speaker 1: these to try and convince me the issue is Actually
Speaker 1: joe and he holds onto the ball too much to.
Speaker 1: Me these stats do not in take take into context
Speaker 1: That joe is usually either playing from behind or in
Speaker 1: a shootout and does not have the ability to constantly
Speaker 1: check the ball down for short yardage gains due to
Speaker 1: his inability to trust the defense literally at, all While
Speaker 1: mahomes And allen have not necessarily had those same. Limitations
Speaker 1: my question is, this as a former scout in the
Speaker 1: era of quote Next gen or quote advanced, statistics do
Speaker 1: you think they can be used on their own in
Speaker 1: a situation like this to evaluate a player and paint
Speaker 1: an accurate picture of what is happening on the. Field it's.
Speaker 1: FUNNY i was texting with like an ASSISTANT gm a
Speaker 1: couple weeks, ago and he was just, saying how it
Speaker 1: makes him sick reading some of these. Articles, then let's face,
Speaker 1: it a lot of The New age. Media if you
Speaker 1: read one of their, articles it is essentially all advanced,
Speaker 1: stats and that's how they talk and articulate their thoughts on.
Speaker 1: Football AND i was, saying you know what's funny Is
Speaker 1: i'm forty years old And i've been talking football with other,
Speaker 1: people my friends and as doing this for a living,
Speaker 1: now just random people for. Decades And i've never had
Speaker 1: a conversation at a. Bar JUST i got a construction
Speaker 1: project going on in my. BACKYARD i was just talking
Speaker 1: football with like the guy running the project building a
Speaker 1: little office out. There hopefully we'll be able to move
Speaker 1: out there the next. Month on a golf course with
Speaker 1: my buddies and these advanced stats have ever come up
Speaker 1: that they never. Do, now if you work for a, team,
Speaker 1: right if You're Howie roseman and you're trying to build the,
Speaker 1: team should you look into what the advanced stats say
Speaker 1: on an individual, player whether it's a free agent or
Speaker 1: a draft. Pick of course you'd be crazy not. To
Speaker 1: but just in the way that we Discuss Joe burrow
Speaker 1: Or Patrick, MAHOMES i don't think you would have a
Speaker 1: casual conversation with someone and they would bring up HIS.
Speaker 1: EPA i just. Don't i've never had, that AND i
Speaker 1: talk about football literally every day for decades on. End
Speaker 1: SO i do think there are two ways to look at. It,
Speaker 1: ONE i think if we dove into, it like you,
Speaker 1: said that would be something you'd, go, well why does
Speaker 1: he have an issue more than these other? GUYS i
Speaker 1: would say this Watching Patrick mahomes And Josh, allen they
Speaker 1: hold on the, ball sometimes probably too much at. Times
Speaker 1: the difference is they're, both Especially, josh a much better
Speaker 1: athlete Than. Joe so If joe's holding onto the, ball
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the ability like some of these. Guys,
Speaker 1: Herbert Josh, Allen Jalen hurts to run. Away he's going
Speaker 1: to get sacked because he's not their level of. Athlete
Speaker 1: but he has to hold onto the ball, sometimes like you,
Speaker 1: said to make things. HAPPEN i bet if we did
Speaker 1: a breakdown the last couple of, years his team's not
Speaker 1: as good as. Theirs so like there's no one can.
Speaker 1: Argue and part of the advanced stats, guys they like
Speaker 1: they believe there's no emotion involved in any given stat,
Speaker 1: Right like a long standing argument in baseball has been
Speaker 1: there's no different than in a bat In game four
Speaker 1: of The World series than In august of a game
Speaker 1: at one o'clock against The Chicago White. Sox they believe
Speaker 1: every individual situation is an, independent you, know exercise for that. Statistic,
Speaker 1: right that's AN, ab that's AN. Ab they're all the,
Speaker 1: same and most of us human being, goes, no there's
Speaker 1: there's this thing called, pressure like and then they're, like,
Speaker 1: well there's no such. Thing it's, like, well they're kind
Speaker 1: Of and when you know that it is trust thrust
Speaker 1: upon you that if we don't score thirty thirty five,
Speaker 1: points we are going to. Lose that is a different
Speaker 1: level of playing the. Sport then If i'm playing, quarterback
Speaker 1: for the best defense in the league. History IF i
Speaker 1: have the eighty Five bears, Defense i'm going to approach
Speaker 1: on a weekly basis much different than IF i have
Speaker 1: one of the worst defense in the. League Right IT'S
Speaker 1: i say the same thing like IF i give you
Speaker 1: a putt from ten feet for five, dollars you might
Speaker 1: look at it a little. Different IF i, go, hey
Speaker 1: this putt is for twenty five thousand, dollars you might
Speaker 1: feel in your bones a little. Bit it's no different
Speaker 1: than playing. Quarterback you, know there's pressure on you to
Speaker 1: get the job done because if you, don't your team will.
Speaker 1: Lose SO i would imagine if we did a deep deep.
Speaker 1: Dive have there ben sacks that are on him that
Speaker 1: he probably doesn't you, know take like get the fault
Speaker 1: doesn't fall on him from a media perspective like it
Speaker 1: would on some other. Quarterbacks, sure BUT i also think
Speaker 1: is he are they very dependent on him making plays
Speaker 1: out of as you know? What of course they got.
Speaker 1: ISSUES i mean that that. Franchise what a bizarre. FRANCHISE i,
Speaker 1: mean it really. Is what a CRAZY i still can't
Speaker 1: believe they. WON a couple of days ago And flacco
Speaker 1: had one of the cooler moments THAT i THAT i
Speaker 1: remember this so far this season pretty pretty nuts that.
Speaker 1: Happened this Is Dzy stark here straight From South. Africa
Speaker 1: we made it to The World, cup So i'm coming
Speaker 1: to THE. Us. Baby relate so much to. You been
Speaker 1: in corporate finance for a couple of years and now
Speaker 1: we're in a private equity. Fund you would have been
Speaker 1: a dog in. Finance that personality is the type PEOPLE
Speaker 1: i like to hire for my. Team, Well, stark if
Speaker 1: times ever get dark over here At, SCOTTSDALE i might
Speaker 1: have to give you a. CALL i usually agree with
Speaker 1: the majority of your, points BUT i have to disagree
Speaker 1: with you with The colts And. Charlie you totally thought
Speaker 1: it was a, gimmick but hands on leadership is key
Speaker 1: to success because the team feels as if you were
Speaker 1: there with them in the. Trenches what's your take? Now
Speaker 1: when you Say, CHARLIE i don't know her, NAME i
Speaker 1: would imagine you're alluding to The, colts one Of ersa's
Speaker 1: daughters who wears the headset on the. Sideline i'm not
Speaker 1: to like egotistical or. Narcissistic narcissistic to think That i'm
Speaker 1: always right and my take that it was kind of
Speaker 1: a clown show her doing, That like could be very very,
Speaker 1: wrong BUT i do feel pretty confident that they haven't
Speaker 1: won or lost because she's on the sideline with a.
Speaker 1: Headset LIKE i think a huge reason for their success,
Speaker 1: is like their quarterback play has been really really, good
Speaker 1: so like her, Leadership like players aren't looking to her for,
Speaker 1: leadership and, honestly Like Chris ballard and especially the coach
Speaker 1: Stike in and Lou amruno and their coaching, staff like
Speaker 1: they're not paying attention to her at all during the.
Speaker 1: Game so when they were losing games the last couple
Speaker 1: of years With Anthony, Richson, flacco, whoever and now they're winning, Them,
Speaker 1: LIKE i think it has little to do with her
Speaker 1: on a headset taking. Notes. Now who. Knows here's WHERE
Speaker 1: i could be. Wrong maybe she has given them, ideas
Speaker 1: because the one thing she can do is they're so
Speaker 1: inundated and deep into. It there are things when you're
Speaker 1: so close to the sun you can't even realize what's going.
Speaker 1: On so maybe she could give them a few, ideas
Speaker 1: not necessarily plays or, anything but just some big picture macro.
Speaker 1: Thoughts not putting that pastor at, all but they were
Speaker 1: not gonna win or lose because of her on a
Speaker 1: headset on the. SIDELINE i guess that was my entire.
Speaker 1: Point do DO i think it's a little? PERFORMATIVE i? Do?
Speaker 1: Uh is there a chance that she is one hundred
Speaker 1: percent being? Truthful she needs to do, this AND i
Speaker 1: think she's been doing it FOR i think she's been
Speaker 1: doing it Since ursa passed, away OR i mean before he.
Speaker 1: DIED i Think i'm pretty sure he's been doing this for.
Speaker 1: Years so, YEAH i, mean if it works for, her
Speaker 1: more power to. Her and If i'm A colts, FAN
Speaker 1: i don't care either, way as long As Daniel jones
Speaker 1: And Jonathan taylor scoring touchdowns and we're winning games six and? One? Baby?
Speaker 1: Uh why did the stafford get talked about enough FOR? Mvp?
Speaker 1: Has he has been on top of the quarterback stats all.
Speaker 1: Season if The rams didn't have kicking, issues the record
Speaker 1: could be even better than five and. TWO i feel
Speaker 1: like he's always been underrated in his, career and that's
Speaker 1: why he doesn't have many individual accolades Like Pro balls
Speaker 1: And All pros as he. DESERVES i also wanted to
Speaker 1: mention a sneaky important game that could be crucial when
Speaker 1: it comes TO, mvp and that this week Twelve Sunday
Speaker 1: night football between The rams and The, BUCCANEERS i think
Speaker 1: the winner of that game could end up being THE.
Speaker 1: Mvp like That christmas game between The ravens and The.
Speaker 1: NINERS i think he's alluding To Brock purdy not playing.
Speaker 1: Well Lamar JACKSON i think accounted or MAYBE i don't
Speaker 1: know if he, threw but he counted for five touchdowns
Speaker 1: and then the rest is. HISTORY i was shocked to
Speaker 1: See stafford's status yesterday WHEN i was going on With.
Speaker 1: Colin obviously he HAD i mean two of his last
Speaker 1: three games The niners, loss which is definitely not on.
Speaker 1: Him he had three touchdowns yesterday at. FIVE i think
Speaker 1: he has seventeen to two ratio right, now and he's
Speaker 1: just an elite. Player AND i, listen it was pretty
Speaker 1: scary in the offseason if you were, McVeigh if you were,
Speaker 1: anybody if like his back was. Hurting now maybe they
Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be, okay BUT i was pretty.
Speaker 1: Concerned and, honestly he's shown zero indication that has had any,
Speaker 1: impact and he's been. Awesome they're, GOOD i, mean they're
Speaker 1: they're really, good And DeVante to go With puka and that,
Speaker 1: defense they're gonna be a. Problem so to, me the
Speaker 1: one thing they have if their guy is, healthy they
Speaker 1: can beat anyone in the LEAGUE afc as, well like
Speaker 1: they can win The Super bowl Because stafford's that, good
Speaker 1: their defense that, good their coaching staff's that. Good so,
Speaker 1: YEAH i wouldn't discount them at. All i'm recording this
Speaker 1: before The sunday night game or The monday night game
Speaker 1: When baker's, Playing but it does, feel at least based
Speaker 1: on the, odds that he still GOT i don't know
Speaker 1: if some uphill climb to make to, me he'd be
Speaker 1: the betting favorite as of whatever week we're. In week,
Speaker 1: seven But holmes ahead of, Him Josh allen's ahead of,
Speaker 1: him seems a little crazy to. Me who's the blame
Speaker 1: for The? Raiders Mark davis has been making all the right.
Speaker 1: Moves Either pete is now a wash Like, belichick or
Speaker 1: your Boy spytech is out of his. League, WELL i
Speaker 1: think a couple of things can be TR i get
Speaker 1: another question question for the. Pod do you think there's
Speaker 1: any Chance, Brady Spy tech And pete can turn The raiders?
Speaker 1: AROUND i feel like they need a better quarterback and
Speaker 1: two good defensive. Backs, well against The, Chiefs crosby got,
Speaker 1: Injured bowers is. Out gino's been. Atrocious he's had a horrendous.
Speaker 1: SEASON i do think we need to acknowledge That Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly higher is kind of. Insane they're paying him three,
Speaker 1: years six million dollars a. Year he's had an eighteen
Speaker 1: million dollar. Contract if you go back a couple of years,
Speaker 1: ago his his last year AT, Ucla Dante, moore who's
Speaker 1: now like a potential number one overall, Pick Heisman trophy
Speaker 1: level guy At oregon looked a. Troach chip hasn't been
Speaker 1: good at offense for many many. Years you, go what
Speaker 1: About Ohio. State, well last year was a little. Rocky
Speaker 1: he had one of the worst game plans you'd ever
Speaker 1: seen Against, michigan a team that had no business Beating
Speaker 1: Ohio state when he has three elite wide, receivers TWO
Speaker 1: nfl running, backs AND nfl quarterback and he got worked
Speaker 1: By Wink martindale and then they got hot in the.
Speaker 1: Playoffs but like this version Of chip is the guy
Speaker 1: that has been in recent, memory he's not very. Good
Speaker 1: but here's the, Thing Pete carroll has proven he will
Speaker 1: fire offensive. Coordinators he's Fired, bevil he's Fired. SHOTTENHEIMER a
Speaker 1: lot of guys got fired on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball When Pete carroll was In, seattle a lot of.
Speaker 1: Guys SO i would Say chip is in major. Trouble
Speaker 1: six million dollars a, year six million dollars a year
Speaker 1: for Chip. Kelly that to me is an agent With
Speaker 1: brady And pete, like, well just. Insane, honestly it didn't
Speaker 1: even make that much. Sense Pete carroll And Chip kelly
Speaker 1: that they feel like polar. Opposites Pete carroll's much more
Speaker 1: like nineteen, eighties, nineties you, know use a full, back
Speaker 1: couple tight, ends slam the. Ball chip is like this more,
Speaker 1: modern spread it out offense that doesn't really. Work and
Speaker 1: let's face, it like his quarterback, situation Like gino was
Speaker 1: up and down the last couple. Years, yeah he didn't
Speaker 1: look like. This when can The jets fans say enough is?
Speaker 1: Enough Aaron glenn seems like he's. Drowning he calls beat
Speaker 1: reporters questions about fields remaining the starter stupid and then
Speaker 1: seven days later benches him against The. Panthers is it
Speaker 1: time to pull the, plug since the idea of this
Speaker 1: current administration picking the next franchise quarterback is questionable at
Speaker 1: best when you are a really shitty team and The
Speaker 1: jets have been, really really. BAD i know they have
Speaker 1: some good individual, players BUT i would say the same
Speaker 1: thing about The. RAIDERS i think you could say the
Speaker 1: same thing about whoever takes over The. Dolphins you got
Speaker 1: to take a deep breath and kind of let it play.
Speaker 1: Out this season is really, ugly and you could argue
Speaker 1: he feels completely over his head because there aren't that
Speaker 1: many parallels from being a coordinator and being a head.
Speaker 1: Coach when he was with The, lions he did not
Speaker 1: have to deal With Jared goff at. All remember early
Speaker 1: on In Jared goff's tenuere like you might get. Benched
Speaker 1: that was Not Aaron glenn's. Problem everything falls on. Him
Speaker 1: Brees hall wants a trade, request that's his. Problem like
Speaker 1: When Jamison williams over the last couple of years would
Speaker 1: cause some problems with The, Lions like that Wasn't Aaron glenn's.
Speaker 1: Issue so you go to the seat And Aaron glenn's
Speaker 1: been around football his whole, life elite, player, scouted, coach
Speaker 1: there's nothing that can prepare you for that. Seat and
Speaker 1: here's the other. Thing he's being inserted in that seat
Speaker 1: in an organization that's a fucking. Debacle SO I i
Speaker 1: think you just got to give him a couple of
Speaker 1: years like he we have seen some one and done,
Speaker 1: guys The Nate, hacketts The Tom. Sulas i've Given Aaron
Speaker 1: glenn a little more. Leeway he's earned that at least
Speaker 1: with his previous. Stops and to, me if you are LIKE,
Speaker 1: i this sounds, crazy but let's say they go on in.
Speaker 1: Seventeen let's let's say they go one in. Sixteen, Like
Speaker 1: i'm just taking a deep breath and letting him get
Speaker 1: a couple years. NOW i do want to know If
Speaker 1: I'm woody Or woody's kid who was pounding the table
Speaker 1: for justin. Fields have you guys been watching football like
Speaker 1: in what? World like one, year five, million no, issue two,
Speaker 1: years forty million dollars thirty? Guaranteed who are we bitting?
Speaker 1: Against who had the idea in a free agency? MEETING
Speaker 1: i want to know the position. COACH i want to
Speaker 1: know the. COORDINATOR i want to know THE gm and
Speaker 1: the head coach who signed off on this ship because
Speaker 1: this is. Nuts we all like the. Guy he has
Speaker 1: been an impressive young man in THE, nfl has handled
Speaker 1: a lot of weird stuff, well a high character. GUY
Speaker 1: i am pro justin fields the human. Being as a,
Speaker 1: player he's. Atrocious he's not very. Good so whose idea was?
Speaker 1: This that's What i'd want to know If I'm woody
Speaker 1: or one of his crazy. Kids he's always Playing. Madden
Speaker 1: if THE nfl did a redraft next, year who would
Speaker 1: be the top five picks in the, draft and who
Speaker 1: do you think would be the first non quarterback off the?
Speaker 1: Board how many quarterbacks would be taken before other positions
Speaker 1: start to get. SELECTED i think we've done this. Before
Speaker 1: there'd be a lot of quarterbacks come off the board
Speaker 1: because you get to a guy like you'd be better
Speaker 1: off With Dak prescott for the next five years than
Speaker 1: you would Be Micah, Parsons Max, crosby who's like a
Speaker 1: young you, Know Trent williams And Lane johnson are old
Speaker 1: but like their version of that player, wharfs you, Know Joe,
Speaker 1: alt guys like. THAT i would take the second tier
Speaker 1: quarterbacks over those. Guys SO i think we've done this.
Speaker 1: Before it's probably ten quarterbacks before a non quarterback gets.
Speaker 1: Picked AND i do think it would depend on who's
Speaker 1: picking to what player got, picked. RIGHT i mean a
Speaker 1: lot of the old school guys would go defensive or offensive.
Speaker 1: LINEMAN i do think there would be some new school
Speaker 1: guys that might take Like Justin jefferson Or Jamar, chase
Speaker 1: which to me would be. Crazy but let's say if
Speaker 1: you're Taken Jamar chase in a, draft, like it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to blame. You do you Think Zach robinson
Speaker 1: is over his head as an Nfloc he just doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to have awareness to adjust and tries the same stupid,
Speaker 1: plays that ridiculous outside zone run that kept the forty nine.
Speaker 1: Ers the forty nine ers kept blowing up in, particular
Speaker 1: especially in crucial. Situations is he holding the team back
Speaker 1: or are we just flat out screwed due to bad quarterback.
Speaker 1: Choices i've always said, this there is like an instinctive
Speaker 1: nature to play, calling and it's pretty easy to watch
Speaker 1: a natural play caller and watch a guy who is
Speaker 1: not cut out for the. Job AND i would say
Speaker 1: The Zach, ROBINSON i mean, one The Atlanta falcons are
Speaker 1: just pretty chaotic. Place you, KNOW i think this all
Speaker 1: stems back to the way the process of The cousins
Speaker 1: And Michael pennick's signing slash selection. Happened is pretty unprecedented
Speaker 1: because they have this new, administration but THE gm is
Speaker 1: staying and they fell in love With Michael pennix like
Speaker 1: three weeks before the. Draft that's just not a good
Speaker 1: process where it's like THE, gm you should have had
Speaker 1: some knowledge if you're drafting eighth of let's really study
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks when you guys get hired. Before we Give
Speaker 1: Kirk cousins all this money and we could have had
Speaker 1: a more well rounded team and just gone in With,
Speaker 1: pennix who Now cousins is just twenty seven point five
Speaker 1: million dollars is a backup, quarterback which is. INSANE i
Speaker 1: just think, that you, know the outside zone. THING i
Speaker 1: have no problem with Giving beijon more. TOUCHES i honestly
Speaker 1: think they didn't give him enough touches because part of
Speaker 1: the outside zone is like The niners are blowing it.
Speaker 1: Up all it takes is him to one cut back
Speaker 1: and have a forty yard. RUN i thought that they
Speaker 1: got away from him too, often and, YEAH i MEAN
Speaker 1: i it just hasn't gone. Well it just and the
Speaker 1: reality is when you're Ahem, dorus whoever you hired as
Speaker 1: your coordinator to be the, baby to like make the
Speaker 1: offense their, baby you were gonna be pretty beholden to
Speaker 1: and his. Success like if you hired the Next Kyle,
Speaker 1: Shanahan sean, McVay kevin, O'Connell you'd be in really good
Speaker 1: shape and your offense would be. Potent but if you
Speaker 1: hired a guy who just, struggled And zach has had
Speaker 1: some good, moments but it does feel like he's had
Speaker 1: more bad moments than good, moments you're on the fast
Speaker 1: track to all getting. FIRED i Think atlanta is in major.
Speaker 1: TROUBLE i think the job status for everyone in that
Speaker 1: building is up in the. Air if they don't make the.
Speaker 1: Playoffs it would not shock me at off every single
Speaker 1: human got, fired coaching, staff in front office if they
Speaker 1: end up eight to nine and The bucks cruise to
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve wins and teams like the, NIGHT i,
Speaker 1: mean you just lost the forty nine. Ers who's you know?
Speaker 1: Best two defensive, players once at home with a torn
Speaker 1: acl and the other has a cast riding a scooter
Speaker 1: round up in a suite that's who beats you and
Speaker 1: you Have Bjon, Robinson Drake london And Kyle. Pitts how
Speaker 1: does that? Happen pennix was, Bad penix did not look,
Speaker 1: good looked really. Bad And i'm A penis, guy but
Speaker 1: that was what the hell's going on? There can you
Speaker 1: make the point that part of the reason the forty
Speaker 1: Nine ers are still competitive is the fact That shanahan
Speaker 1: is a. Badass like The, falcons they have way more
Speaker 1: talent and the fact That niners are currently winning is pure. Coaching,
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean last, night AND i said this immediately
Speaker 1: after the game IS i think the hardest part in,
Speaker 1: football and every coach talks about this from high school
Speaker 1: obviously to college and the pros is culture is a
Speaker 1: tone being set by the leadership from a head coach
Speaker 1: to the star, players and the forty Nine ers relative
Speaker 1: to The, falcons like it's not a fair, fight man for,
Speaker 1: man guy for. Guy you could argue The falcons were
Speaker 1: a better team going into the game just individual, players
Speaker 1: but football is a team game led by the coaches
Speaker 1: and the coordinators and THE nfl more than high. School
Speaker 1: in college is a lot about the x's and no's
Speaker 1: and inspiring The jimmy's and The joe's to play within the.
Speaker 1: Scheme and What kyle And Robert salah and they did
Speaker 1: was just a. Masterclass kyle's had some incredible wins in
Speaker 1: his tenure as a, coach but he's had some really good.
Speaker 1: Teams you, know Said he's had teams that are star
Speaker 1: studded with all pros and high priced. Guys when you're
Speaker 1: Missing Fred warner And Nick bosa and you can Take
Speaker 1: Tatum bethoom and some of these random, rookies some slot
Speaker 1: Receiver lucas or slot, Corner it's, like what is going
Speaker 1: On Mac. Jones it's pretty. Nuts and meanwhile they're dealing
Speaker 1: with the eighth overall pick In, Pennix Drake, london the
Speaker 1: fourth overall, Pick, beijon the eighth, Pick Drake, london the
Speaker 1: seventh pick or eighth. PICK i, mean it's just the
Speaker 1: how is this? Happening and the answer is. Simple those
Speaker 1: people are over their head that they're not good. Enough
Speaker 1: AND i Think Raheem, morris Like Kyle, shanahan would love
Speaker 1: to Have Raheem morris on his. Staff If Robert sala
Speaker 1: becomes the head coach of The titans or The Arizona
Speaker 1: cardinals this. Offseason it would not stun me at all
Speaker 1: if they all get. Fired he Hires Raheem morris to
Speaker 1: be his defensive, coordinator but, like that's probably what he
Speaker 1: is and there's nothing wrong with, that Asked. Roberts. Sol
Speaker 1: he's making five six million dollars a. Year same thing
Speaker 1: With Vic. Fangio some people are just not meant to
Speaker 1: be head coaches because it's really. Hard i'm not acting
Speaker 1: LIKE i could do every, role just like most of you.
Speaker 1: Listening there are certain roles that a lot of us
Speaker 1: could not. Do we'd be, overwhelmed couldn't, focus you, know
Speaker 1: the details would get lost in. Translation we would. Fail
Speaker 1: and it's no different being a quarterback in THE, nfl
Speaker 1: being a being a coordinator in THE, nfl definitely being
Speaker 1: a head coach in THE. Nfl there are certain guys
Speaker 1: that are not, qualified or let me rephrase, that that
Speaker 1: are qualified on. Paper but it's like. Academia you could
Speaker 1: give me a lot of theories on a. Whiteboard let's
Speaker 1: get out in the real, world supply. Demand give me
Speaker 1: all that. Bullshit can you go sell this ice to An?
Speaker 1: Eskimo can you create a business based on these, widgets
Speaker 1: because if you, can't, LIKE i don't give a shit
Speaker 1: what you teach me in this. TEXTBOOK a lot of
Speaker 1: guys can talk, football can you, know sell you on a,
Speaker 1: vision but, like can they execute it with the actual
Speaker 1: team and their coaching staff in a? Building and the
Speaker 1: answer clearly is no. Question what If kyle decided to
Speaker 1: Draft Mac jones at third overall instead Of Trey lance
Speaker 1: the small sample, Size max looked pretty damn good Running kyle's.
Speaker 1: Offense at least he would have gotten somewhat of a
Speaker 1: return on the third overall. Pick that's an incredible. HYPOTHETICAL
Speaker 1: i think he would have been good enough That Brock
Speaker 1: purty never, happens AND i DON'T i don't know Because
Speaker 1: Mac jones is not as good As Brock purdy because
Speaker 1: he can't. Move but he definitely is better than the
Speaker 1: guy that we saw in New ing in the last
Speaker 1: couple of. Years because in this offense that is very quarterback.
Speaker 1: Friendly kyle schemes guys open when the running game. Works
Speaker 1: it's just it's a great place to be a quarterback
Speaker 1: in the. Offense most of these guys that play in this,
Speaker 1: offense they rave about. It because it it's easier on.
Speaker 1: You they're Not kyle's not asking you to carry the,
Speaker 1: ship and Mac jones can't carry the. Ship DO i
Speaker 1: think he would have been a quote unquote bust BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i think and, listen he's resurrecting his, career but, anytime
Speaker 1: like to The, patriots he was a. Bust, right he
Speaker 1: did not get a contract, extension he was. Gone they
Speaker 1: traded him to The. Jacks DO i think he would
Speaker 1: have been from being? Drafted is he still currently the?
Speaker 1: Starter i'm probably fifty to fifty on, that BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: do think he has some physical limitations AND i, think you,
Speaker 1: know part of what made pretty special over a couple
Speaker 1: course of a couple of years was his athletic ability
Speaker 1: and his ad. Libability now it also has got him
Speaker 1: in trouble, Recently like he's throwing some bad picks scrambling.
Speaker 1: Around but Mac jones cannot do that even when he's.
Speaker 1: Healthy so and the forty Nine ers don't exactly have
Speaker 1: the greatest offensive line in the league, history so he'd
Speaker 1: be getting hit a. LOT i definitely, think like you,
Speaker 1: Know Trey lance didn't make it the year. Three he
Speaker 1: was traded before week one to The. COWBOYS i think
Speaker 1: Mac jones would have played out several, years like probably
Speaker 1: four years. Now are they picking up a fifty year
Speaker 1: option or they signed him a new. EXTENSION i do
Speaker 1: Think kyle can be pretty, stubborn so he would have
Speaker 1: probably done some of that if it was just going.
Speaker 1: Decently but, like there's a big difference between competing to
Speaker 1: win eight nine games and Like purdy was a starting
Speaker 1: quarterback as the teams win a lot of. Games so
Speaker 1: could Mac jones have done? THAT i definitely wouldn't say
Speaker 1: he couldn't do, it BUT i wouldn't just feel confident
Speaker 1: that it would look eighty percent of what party. Was
Speaker 1: now that being, said he has been awesome this. YEAR
Speaker 1: a ton of respect for, him AND i think he's
Speaker 1: in his perfect. Role what Mac jones should be is
Speaker 1: like the highest paid backup in THE, nfl and he
Speaker 1: can play in the league for a long. Time Whatever
Speaker 1: Chase daniel made forty fifty million, Dollars matt could make
Speaker 1: one hundred and. FIFTY a lot of questions About Pete
Speaker 1: carroll and The. RAIDERS i don't REALLY i don't really
Speaker 1: know what to. SAY i don't think he's just gonna
Speaker 1: get fired after one. Year you can't just keep firing
Speaker 1: people year after year like that is just Not this
Speaker 1: isn't like when you're twenty eight trying to find a
Speaker 1: serious girlfriend and you just go on a lot of.
Speaker 1: Dates you can't really operate like that with a. Coach
Speaker 1: you Hire Pete, Carroll you've got to give him a
Speaker 1: couple of years to kind of do what he. Does.
Speaker 1: Now if it doesn't, work it doesn't. Work if his
Speaker 1: magic is, gone his magic's. Gone but you can't just
Speaker 1: seven games in because it's not going that. Well be
Speaker 1: like we got to get rid of for Who you're
Speaker 1: gonna fire him for? What coach and everything that he
Speaker 1: just spent, nine, ten twelve months. Doing do you just
Speaker 1: erase all that from the building and start from. Scratch
Speaker 1: SO I i think you've got to be very careful
Speaker 1: about Doing And i'd say the same thing About Aaron,
Speaker 1: glenn like give him a couple of. YEARS i saw
Speaker 1: he used to have a podcast on the. Volume now
Speaker 1: he's With Barstool, tbob who played FOR lsu for a.
Speaker 1: While he went ON i saw On instagram this epic.
Speaker 1: Rant he's just so tired of all these college coaches
Speaker 1: being paid fifty sixty seventy million dollars to go. Away
Speaker 1: it's like he's AN lsu grad and he played AT
Speaker 1: lsu and like their. Heyday like With Les, MILES i
Speaker 1: think he was a freshman on a national championship. TEAM
Speaker 1: i think his senior year he went back to the national.
Speaker 1: Championship they lost To. Bama but he was on some
Speaker 1: elite teams with elite. Players and his whole take was,
Speaker 1: Like i'm not cool with Paying Brian kelly fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars to go? Away how about, This Brian, kelly fire
Speaker 1: some coaches and figure it to bleep? Out, like how
Speaker 1: about you get back to like a ten to eleven
Speaker 1: win team like you had At Notre. Dame it's what
Speaker 1: we're paying you to. Do so is this gonna be? Miserable,
Speaker 1: yeah but we're not paying you to go play golf In.
Speaker 1: Florida that's not gonna happen. Here we're paying you to,
Speaker 1: work paying you to. Coach and the reason he got
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars is for a, decade you won a
Speaker 1: lot of games In Notre. Dame so now you're AT.
Speaker 1: Lsu figure it. Out AND i was, like you know,
Speaker 1: WHAT i kind of, agree like are we just gonna
Speaker 1: pay all the like the one thing With James. Franklin
Speaker 1: James franklin had been there over a, decade so it's, like,
Speaker 1: yeah you kind of. Know Brian kelly is a year. Four,
Speaker 1: now DO i think he's in? Trouble? Yes DO i
Speaker 1: think he's going? Well of course. Not BUT i also do, understand,
Speaker 1: like what are we doing? Here can't we just give
Speaker 1: him like five or six or seven years to, like
Speaker 1: we're paying him to try to figure this out and
Speaker 1: maybe he's gonna, fail but we gotta pay him no matter,
Speaker 1: What so we might as well attempt to see, if
Speaker 1: like maybe year five this pops and maybe. Doesn't But
Speaker 1: i'm not paying him to go play country club golf
Speaker 1: six days a week for three. Years why are there
Speaker 1: so many terrible purgatory franchise in THE? Nfl it seems
Speaker 1: like every year the top ten teams drafting is just
Speaker 1: a different combination of the same ten. Teams is it
Speaker 1: bad ownership for an office or really just bad juju
Speaker 1: certain franchises can't. Shake just look at The giants game
Speaker 1: against The. Broncos it's an incredible choke, job but they
Speaker 1: have at least three of these a. Season uh you,
Speaker 1: KNOW i obviously ownership plays a, role, Right but at
Speaker 1: the end of the, day most of these owners are
Speaker 1: Not Dan snyder that they're not telling you who to
Speaker 1: draft in the first round after you've done all the
Speaker 1: work and they show up ten minutes before round, one
Speaker 1: grab a cheeseburger and some, sushi and then when your
Speaker 1: pick comes up number seven, overall they pointed a, name they,
Speaker 1: say that's who you're. Picking most of these guys legitimately
Speaker 1: hire people and let them. Cook and most of these
Speaker 1: people are just completely over their. Head let's look at The.
Speaker 1: Lions is The ford family a complete? Joke you would
Speaker 1: have said for most of my? Life hell, yeah their
Speaker 1: ownership is an. Embarrassment and then what they. Do they
Speaker 1: hired two guys who are good at their. Jobs and
Speaker 1: what has happened to The lions ever? Since they've won
Speaker 1: and they've become a real. Franchise the drafts in the,
Speaker 1: twenties the players in the first round the second round
Speaker 1: made it to AN nfc championship game for the first
Speaker 1: time in thirty. Years that, again recording this before The
Speaker 1: monday night, game is going to compete again to win
Speaker 1: the division like they're just. Real but what did they
Speaker 1: do anything different or did they just hire the right? People,
Speaker 1: so LIKE i saw The giants With Jerry reese And Tom,
Speaker 1: coughlin like they were a pretty stable, franchise and then
Speaker 1: ever since they've just gone through, gms they've gone through
Speaker 1: head coaches and spent at, Debacle like The, titans are
Speaker 1: they an? Embarrassment, well they are, now and they were
Speaker 1: Before vrabel when they Had brabel And John, Robinson like
Speaker 1: they felt like a pretty stable. Operation AND i think
Speaker 1: players that played there would tell you that. Too SO
Speaker 1: i think in a weird, way there's just a huge
Speaker 1: element of. Luck do you hire the right? Guy and
Speaker 1: sometimes like you deserve criticism for being cheap on, hire you,
Speaker 1: know forever The, Chargers like what do you think you're
Speaker 1: gonna get when you're Hiring Brandis day or you, Know Anthony,
Speaker 1: leonard these guys they're not going to be head coaches,
Speaker 1: Anywhere like you, deserve you, know all the criticism that
Speaker 1: comes your way from the, fans the, media. Whoever. Right
Speaker 1: but a lot of times it's LIKE i think The,
Speaker 1: giants like we're Hiring Joe shane And Brian, daball two
Speaker 1: guys from The bills like pretty normal. HIRES i remember
Speaker 1: When Mark davis Hired ziegler And josh. McDaniels i'm, LIKE
Speaker 1: i probably would have hired them. Too that forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: Tried The colts, tried, like it's not that crazy of a.
Speaker 1: Hire now it, failed and looking, back it's easy to
Speaker 1: Go god they. Suck but at the TIME i was,
Speaker 1: like IF i Was Mark, DAVIS i would have hired him.
Speaker 1: Too what's going on With lafleur's play? Calling running an
Speaker 1: end around on third and five that loses two, yards
Speaker 1: then Asking Jordan love to convert a fourth and. Sixth
Speaker 1: that's just bad situational. Football if you're gonna Have love
Speaker 1: throw on fourth and, long you might as well trust
Speaker 1: him to throw in third down instead of putting him
Speaker 1: in a worse. Position this isn't On Jordan, love it's
Speaker 1: on the play. Calling they might need to consider a.
Speaker 1: CHANGE i think this goes back now two. Years they
Speaker 1: have just been a slow starting. Offense most of last.
Speaker 1: YEAR i remember talking about him a, lot and obviously
Speaker 1: this year you look, up it's Like Jordan love is
Speaker 1: seventy yards at halftime now on this individual game long.
Speaker 1: Flight the flight was delayed weird. Travel but, MAN i
Speaker 1: just one of my favorite bets of the week was
Speaker 1: just hammering The packers and then of Course jacoby they're.
Speaker 1: Leading it's, like what is going on? Here Thank god
Speaker 1: For Micah, parsons WHO i THINK i read had ten,
Speaker 1: pressures obviously had a bunch of, sacks but something just.
Speaker 1: Off THERE'S i would say this The packer and The,
Speaker 1: broncos it's just not really, clicking like the play calling
Speaker 1: with their head coach who's both highly thought, of Like
Speaker 1: lafour has a long track, record now Obviously sean's is really,
Speaker 1: long but you watch them play offense and both of,
Speaker 1: them what are The packers now four and two because
Speaker 1: they had to buy and The broncos are five and?
Speaker 1: Two but when you watch them, play let's just bring
Speaker 1: up The. PACKERS i, get, oh they have the. TIE
Speaker 1: i don't, know somethings just trying to look at their
Speaker 1: point differential kind of the. SAME i can't put my
Speaker 1: finger on it BECAUSE i actually Think Jordan love like
Speaker 1: you watch me make some really good. Throws you, KNOW
Speaker 1: i Know jacobs was sick going into that. GAME i
Speaker 1: don't have a great answer for. YOU i, mean you're
Speaker 1: you're looking at a guy that has a bet on
Speaker 1: them to make the Super. Bowl, OBVIOUSLY i have several
Speaker 1: parlays with, them include to win the division not feeling
Speaker 1: great about. It question for the, back Does colin ever
Speaker 1: try to throttle in quotes you or get you to
Speaker 1: stay away from certain topics or even quote manage the
Speaker 1: language you. USE i would guess, not and then he
Speaker 1: wants you to speak your. Mind but was just curious
Speaker 1: how that. Worked we all answer to, somebody And i've always.
Speaker 1: WONDERED i, Mean i've never been told to. ONE i
Speaker 1: talk LIKE i, talk like you were in business together
Speaker 1: in this, medium like my, LANGUAGE i speak LIKE i.
Speaker 1: SPEAK i don't, know we'll, say but they have never
Speaker 1: ever said, anything if, ANYTHING i try sometimes to throttle
Speaker 1: back BECAUSE i, know like, Listen i'm very fortunate that
Speaker 1: this medium in twenty twenty. Five moving, FORWARD i, mean
Speaker 1: so many of you guys that twenty years ago would
Speaker 1: have been big radio. Guys connect your phone to the,
Speaker 1: car listen in the. Car, Well i've worked in. Radio
Speaker 1: it's kid. Friendly so like WHEN i was ten years
Speaker 1: old driving around with my, dad he could have on
Speaker 1: sports talk and people weren't gonna, swear AND i know
Speaker 1: a lot of you guys drive around pick up your
Speaker 1: kids and If i'm on in the background just swearing
Speaker 1: left and, RIGHT i. DO i think of that more
Speaker 1: than no one's ever told me anything on. That and
Speaker 1: when it comes to, topics there's nothing that we've ever
Speaker 1: talked about that was off. Limits, again it's most of
Speaker 1: the stuff we're talking about is football. Related and, listen
Speaker 1: he's friends with people THAT i PROBABLY i, guess, quote, trash,
Speaker 1: criticize don't think highly. Of AND i would say it
Speaker 1: probably be the same thing that he's critical of people
Speaker 1: that are my. FRIENDS i mean the job we're. In so,
Speaker 1: Yeah i've never been told anything by anyone when it
Speaker 1: comes to topics or my language beside, myself AND i.
Speaker 1: Do WHEN i first started this, PODCAST i THINK i
Speaker 1: swore probably way too, much AND i was PROBABLY i
Speaker 1: don't know the reason behind, it maybe because you could
Speaker 1: and maybe that's just WHEN i came from radio and
Speaker 1: you could just say whatever you. Wanted and then the
Speaker 1: More i've done this and a lot of you guys have, said, hey,
Speaker 1: LISTEN i love bu BUT i drive around with my
Speaker 1: ten year old in the. CARTS i tried to be
Speaker 1: cognizant of that and be careful of just how many
Speaker 1: f moms not at the same. Time like you, know
Speaker 1: if you don't think your kids swearing in elementary, school
Speaker 1: you got another thing. Coming but, listen we don't want
Speaker 1: to teach bad habits here trying to be, uh we're
Speaker 1: trying to be positive influences on. Society so appreciate the
Speaker 1: question and we'll just we'll throttle forward and. LISTEN i
Speaker 1: Appreciate i've been very fortunate to be with an operation
Speaker 1: that does not care at all as long as you're
Speaker 1: having success generating, views, listens and. Revenue double thumbs. Up
Speaker 1: let it rip baby the volume