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Speaker 1: There?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, Chris Raybond of the Action Network, and this

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Speaker 2: is our wide Receiver to Fantasy Preview episode for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three. Here to break it down with me one

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Speaker 2: of the top Fantasy football rankers in the game, the

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Speaker 2: odds maker, Sean Kerner. Sean, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 3: I'm just happy we finally got DeAndre Hopkins clarity and

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Speaker 3: just in time for today's pod.

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Speaker 1: So I'm stoked about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of just like a dark cloud

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Speaker 2: over some of the wide receiver situations yea in the league.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll talk about that. He is still in

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Speaker 2: that wide receiver two range in terms of ADP, so

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Speaker 2: we'll kind of talk about, you know where we're ranking him.

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Speaker 2: We'll go through every wide receiver in that range, and

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Speaker 2: the next episode I will talk about all the wide

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Speaker 2: receiver threes and beyond guys we'd like outside that that

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Speaker 2: the wide receiver thirteen by ADP, and we're using a

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Speaker 2: try to get the you know, the most recent ADP. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: depending on what site you're on, that could change, but

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Speaker 2: DeVante Smith is the wide receiver thirteen for us here,

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Speaker 2: and I guess my question to you is, you know,

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Speaker 2: pass every team. They could throw a little more next year,

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Speaker 2: but just your thoughts on kind of Smith's ceiling at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to be honest, probably not much room to grow

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Speaker 3: from here. You know, he was the wide receiver ten

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Speaker 3: last year. But you know, taking in context, he played

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Speaker 3: all seventeen games, so that's why I tend to look

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Speaker 3: at points per game, and he was wide receiver seventeen,

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Speaker 3: and we have to remember he benefited from Dallas Goddard

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Speaker 1: He was the wide receiver ten during that stretch.

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Speaker 3: Another quirky thing about his season last year is two

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Speaker 1: DeVonta Smith's projection. That just proved it last year.

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Speaker 3: So he's probably going a tad early. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: You know, he's my wide receiver fourteen. But he's not

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Speaker 3: a guy I'm just racing to get. But if he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he has a massive, massive room

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, because you look at this tier and DeVante

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Speaker 2: He goes about pick number fifty six, so you know,

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Speaker 2: as I mentioned, it really starts to fall off a

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Speaker 2: With that being said, Chris o'lave is the number fourteen

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Speaker 2: And if Michael Thomas is healthy, who's the number one receiver?

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Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a good question. I still think it's a Lave.

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Speaker 3: he saw a ton of targets downfield last year. Fifty

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Speaker 3: it really comes down to that, if Michael Thomas plays

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Speaker 3: But again, I probably wouldn't bet on Michael Thomas playing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have I have allowed a couple I think

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Speaker 2: I have him a number eighteen, so I do have

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Speaker 2: But there's also the uncertainty of how much how much

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Speaker 2: It's more that he's going to be either kind of

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Speaker 2: And then and you know, it just also comes down to, oh,

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Speaker 2: But you know that that's why I have a couple

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Speaker 2: still drafting guys like I'm still drafting Olave over all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair enough. Who would rather have a Lave

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Speaker 2: We would rather have Yeah, we'd still rather have Keenan.

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Speaker 2: You know, I so consistent and like you know, we've

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Speaker 2: whereas the Saints, you know, they like to run a

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Speaker 2: the you know, whether Michael Thomas stays healthy, the fact

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Speaker 1: But that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 3: And you know, one of those reasons is Gino was

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Speaker 3: You know, when it comes to entering Jackson Smith Nijigba

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Speaker 3: it's Kinna ding Metcalf a little bit, but maybe not

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Speaker 3: enough to really lower moment rankings. So I have DK

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Speaker 3: I do think the gap between Metcalf and Lockett isn't

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Speaker 1: I think wide receiver fifteen is about right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I agree, I think Lockett is the guy

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Speaker 2: you know, I have him like six spots six. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's six spots higher than that. But as

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Speaker 2: he's entering his prime. Wide receivers usually, you know, in

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Speaker 2: So you know, we haven't seen we probably haven't seen

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Speaker 2: the ceiling for DK Metcalf. I mean, he he had

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Speaker 2: The last couple of years is they've been targeting him

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Speaker 2: a little closer to the line of scrimmag which probably

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Speaker 2: it's you know, like anything is too different from last

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Speaker 2: if anything that should, you know, hurt the tight ends

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Speaker 2: of helped the defense to stay honest. So no real

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Speaker 2: I just think, you know, compared to the running backs

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Speaker 2: I think the floor is considerably higher. All right, Let's

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Speaker 2: go to the sixteenth wide receiver by ADP over the

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Speaker 2: last couple weeks. That's Deebo Samuel. He suffered a pretty

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Speaker 2: big decline in twenty twenty two. The average depth of

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Speaker 2: The targets per route were down about a percent twenty

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Speaker 2: three to one point seven, So just not as much

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Speaker 2: of an outlier year from deebo lash year. How are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he's still one of the best players

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Speaker 3: in the league, don't get me wrong, but just in

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Speaker 3: terms of fantasy, it's hard to project him higher than this.

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Speaker 3: With Christian McCaffrey in this offense, just because you know

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Speaker 1: You know, direct handoffs.

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Speaker 3: The glory days of Debo were twenty twenty one, when

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Speaker 3: he was racking up five to eight rush attempts a

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Speaker 3: going to change a bit with McCaffrey there after. McCaffrey

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Speaker 3: became a full time player in Week eate debo ranked

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Speaker 3: wide receiver thirty three in points per game the rest

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Speaker 3: the Christian McCaffrey impact that we saw off the bat.

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Speaker 3: Plus you know they also have Brandon Ayuk George Kittle

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Speaker 3: commanding their targets. The Niners, you know, we'll have plenty

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Speaker 3: So I think deebo Is is going to be extremely

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Speaker 3: of the year he might put up wide receiver sixteen numbers.

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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna be disappointed because he's going to

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Speaker 3: I'd rather just have a guy that's gonna get me

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Speaker 3: many mouths to feed in this offense right now, and

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Speaker 3: Deebo's impacted by that. So while at the end of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have him a couple of spots lower wide

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Speaker 2: to need to give him as many handoffs. With McCaffrey here,

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Speaker 2: Keenan Allen going here at wide receiver seventeen is one

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Speaker 2: of them. He's averaged six plus catches seventy plus yards

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Speaker 2: he like this is just a model of consistency. Still

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, he's still their high volume target

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Speaker 2: like Quentin Johnston, Mike Williams, they do, they do different

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Speaker 2: I have him a wide receiver fourteen. And you know,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. You know, he's as reliable as

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Speaker 3: even though he missed a ton of time, he was

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Speaker 3: people saying he's a lot to miss more games than

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Speaker 3: other receivers in this range, and I don't think that's

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Speaker 3: he had some bad luck, but you know he's one

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Speaker 3: get solid wide receiver two production. He's the type of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, like Allen, you know, he's one

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Speaker 2: you know, I just don't think there's there's still like

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Speaker 2: of some of these guys here where. I still think Alan,

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Speaker 2: he missed some games last year. Wide receiver eighteen is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I do like him here. You know, he's

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Speaker 3: This is a very top heavy offense. However, he should

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Speaker 3: but that could be offset if Deshaun Watson bounces back

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Speaker 3: you know, I still like Cooper this year, even with

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Speaker 3: that helps me pick Cooper here because there was a time,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have you know, high weekly floor, high weekly

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Speaker 1: So he's the kind of guy I do like drafting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. About Hopkins. I think that was

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Speaker 2: But you know, Cooper has been extremely consistent. In seven

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Speaker 2: of his nine years, He's hosted a thousand or more yards,

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00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: which also tells you he doesn't really miss a bunch

432
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 2: of games ever. And yeah, I still think, you know,

433
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: there's still a lot of question marks at receiver, you know,

434
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: behind him, Like, yes, in theory, Elijah Moore should be

435
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: better and help him out, but you know, Elijah Moore

436
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: is no short thing either. So I still think Cooper's

437
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: gonna be the you know, the unquestioned number one wide

438
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: receiver here in Cleveland. So yeah, can't carrily nothing really

439
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: to complaining about with this, with this adp here, And

440
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: I do think Deshaun Watson takes a step forward because

441
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: if you look at Watson, he played well with the

442
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: guys who like are gonna be getting the most snaps

443
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 2: for Cleveland this year, and like the guys he was

444
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: struggling to throw to were the guys that probably aren't

445
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: gonna play very much this year. So uh, yeah, I

446
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: like Cooper here. Jerry Judy is the wide receiver nineteen.

447
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: He is only you know, he's going to his age

448
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: twenty four season, even though this is his fourth year

449
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: in the league. You know, this is when there's a

450
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: lot of question marks here. I mean, you know, how

451
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: does Russell Wilson rebound just Sean? How do Sean Payton?

452
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 2: You know, coming here changed the role for Judy, who

453
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: had his best success I think is the X receiver

454
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: in a couple of games Court and Sutton miss last year.

455
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 2: What do you think of Jared Judy going here as

456
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: a top twenty wide out?

457
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean despite Russe wilsons struggles last year, he's

458
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: still finished wide receiver eighteen, which is right in this range.

459
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: He's only twenty four years old, still entering his prime,

460
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 3: and you know he should face more target competition this

461
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 3: year with Tim Patrick possibly rooking Marvin Mims. You know,

462
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: the Broncos really didn't have a number three wide receiver

463
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: at all last season, so that could knock Judy's target

464
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: share down a bit, But I'm not too concerned with it.

465
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,959
Speaker 3: The only thing with him is he still sits atop

466
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: like a pretty massive wide receiver two wide receiver, three

467
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: tier where you can get a guy like Lockett or

468
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 3: Brandy that I'm projecting similarly around or two later. So

469
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: sometimes in this range I might get cute and try

470
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: to like get justin fields or another running back or

471
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 3: maybe a tight end. So this is a range where

472
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm pretty flexible, knowing that I can get a similar

473
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: receiver you know, a round or two later. But you know, overall,

474
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: I think Judy he's ranked about right here. It just

475
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: depends on your draft strategy and what you're trying to do.

476
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 3: But if if you're at a spot where you need

477
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: a receiver and he's sitting there, absolutely take him. I

478
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 3: think he could blow up this year with Sean Payton

479
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 3: there and Russell Wilson can't get worse than last year.

480
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: So you know, Judy's the kind of guy where I

481
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: pivot depending on you know, how the first several rounds

482
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 3: went for me.

483
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just see I see a little bit of

484
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: risk here, Like I have him a wide receiver twenty two.

485
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: Some I'm a little bit lower. Uh. You know, first

486
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: of all, Greg Dolsic missed the first what handful of

487
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 2: games last year. Yeah, Judy's biggest games came with Sutton out. Uh.

488
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: You know, so like there are some things where I

489
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: think Judy's the best receiver of the Denver wide receivers.

490
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: But you know, in with a new a new uh,

491
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 2: new offense, new new coach, new coordinator, all that stuff,

492
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: I do you think there's some uncertainty? Is that how

493
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: exactly everything shakes out? And you know there's a chance

494
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: that you know, I mean, there's a chance Sutton rebounds,

495
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: there is a chance Patrick rebounds, there is a chance

496
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: Mims is better than everything, those which could take a

497
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: week forward. So I do think Judy is still the

498
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: best receiver here. But does he kind of hump, does

499
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: he just blow everyone out the water to where he's

500
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: a top twenty guy? I don't know. I mean his

501
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: targets per route in his three seasons was always between

502
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: twenty one and twenty two percent. Uh So you know,

503
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 2: if he doesn't really increase on that, I think he's

504
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: gonna fall just short of the top twenty, honestly. But

505
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: I do think the floor is a little higher than

506
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: the ceiling for Judy. So yeah, he's a guy that

507
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 2: there are a couple guys I think I would rather

508
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 2: have over him. You know, in this in this tier,

509
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: the next guy up is Calvin Ridley, he's the wide

510
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 2: receiver twenty. He's going on his his age twenty nine

511
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: season this year. Obviously was suspended last year for the gambling.

512
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: So we really haven't We haven't seen him on the Jaguars.

513
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: We haven't seen him play in a couple of years. Yeah,

514
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: So how are you projecting him? Because when he was

515
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: you know, when he was playing, he was one of

516
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: the best receivers in a game. And that was even

517
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: with you know, at the beginning of his career, even

518
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: with Julio Jones there in Atlanta. So how are you

519
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: kind of projecting rid we hear in Jacksonville.

520
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, first of all, it's a great landing

521
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: spot for him. I mean he gets paired with it,

522
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 3: you know, generational talent about to enter his prime in

523
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence. Unfortunately, the market's pretty sharp here that he

524
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: should be a fringed top twenty wide receiver because he's

525
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: not coming back from a season long injury where he

526
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: tore multiple against him in his knee. I mean, he

527
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 3: was just betting on parlays, give me a break. So,

528
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: I mean he's going to be one hundred percent and

529
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 3: healthy ready to go. While he might be twenty nine

530
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 3: and on, you know, starts to decline. You know, he

531
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: hasn't been getting hit the past couple of years, so

532
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: I think, you know, we should be treating him like

533
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: he's still in his prime. So there's a ton of

534
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: upside in taking him here. However, he does, he does

535
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 3: have a wider range of outcomes just because there's a

536
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: chance he doesn't return to his twenty twenty Falcons form.

537
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: So there is a little bit of mystery in that

538
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: because like you said, we haven't seen him play in

539
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: a couple of years. But I think just based on

540
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 3: the upside for him as a talent and in this offense,

541
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: you know, wide receiver twenty does make a ton of sense,

542
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: similar to Metcalf though, where I think the gap between

543
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: Ridley and Kirk is similar to you know, Metcalf and Locket.

544
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: I think that Christian Kirk is probably the better value

545
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: and get a little bit later on. But again, the

546
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 3: upside with Ridley is undeniable. So if you take him

547
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 3: at wide receiver, I can't fault you just know, he

548
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 3: does have a lower flow of the most guys in

549
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: this range, just because we're kind of guessing that he's

550
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: going to be the same type of player we saw

551
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: the Falcons a couple of years ago.

552
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I have and Dally pretty even, That's what

553
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like dead even, right, Yeah, So I mean

554
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's kind of tough to to like

555
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: to say, you know, Ridley is a great pick here

556
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: just because I think you can get Kirk a little later.

557
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: And this is a little this is a little different

558
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: from Seattle where we've kind of seen it play out

559
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, this one is you know,

560
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: and Ridley is actually entering his age twenty nine season.

561
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: I mean, he's on the other side of you know,

562
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: his prime now. Now he hasn't played in a while,

563
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: so it's not like he has like a lot of

564
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: tread on the tires or anything. But similar to Judy,

565
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: I do, and Jay say Jones is playing well as well,

566
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: so you know, similar to Judy, I do see a

567
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: little bit of downside with Ridley, you know, compared to

568
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: some of these other guys. Again, still taking him over

569
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: running backs, but not necessarily my favorite wide receiver in

570
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: this tier, just because of the uncertainty. But you know,

571
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: outside is there. You know, Trevor Lawrence is entering his prime.

572
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: So uh, and there's a good chance he still is

573
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: the number one receiver, but you know there's some risk

574
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: as well. Twenty one is DeAndre Hopkins thirty h thirty

575
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: one season, eleventh in the league. You know, I guess

576
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: you know, what are you what are you expecting here

577
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: with with Tennessee? How did that? How does the how's

578
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: your projection looking for him? Now that we know where

579
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: he landed?

580
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: To be fair, this seems like a below average landing spot,

581
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: you know, just because the Titans are such a run

582
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: heavy team. But however, you know, the the plus side

583
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: of this is he he will be the unquestioned number

584
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: one target at least in this offense, so he's going

585
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: to see a high target share. So in that sense,

586
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: it's a great landing spot. You know, there's a chance

587
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: he's getting up in Buffalo or Kansas City, like the

588
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: ultimate landing spot would have been the Chiefs. So that's

589
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: probably why his ADP was this high. You know, that

590
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: was in the range of outcomes, But right now he

591
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: fell down to wide receiver twenty eight for me, just

592
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: because you know, like I said, they're gonna be run

593
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: heavy team. He's gonna be thirty one so you know,

594
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 3: he's at the tail end of his career, and you know,

595
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: I view him more's a high end wider receiver three

596
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: option because he does rely on volume, like he needs

597
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: a lot of catches to produce fancy points. Where's the

598
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: guy like aj Brown in this offense was able to

599
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: post solid wide receiver two numbers thanks to just ridiculous efficiency.

600
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: That's not really Hopkins game. So that that's why I

601
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: think he gets a downgrade. By the landing spot. There's

602
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: a chance Will Levis could be under center at some

603
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 3: point that would hurt Hopkins. But the ripple effect from

604
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: this was massive because you know it certainly dings, you know,

605
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: Traylon Burks, unfortunately Chiggs, Chicka Kwonku's stock a bit, Ryan

606
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: Tannehill stock is up, and then other teams, Like I

607
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: thought he was going to the Patriots, so I had

608
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: like Juju Smith Schuster's you know projections were way down.

609
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: Those go up, so it's a boost for Juju. I

610
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: thought he was going on to the Patriots, so I

611
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: had Mac Jones, you know, with a little bit of

612
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 3: a boost.

613
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: So Mac Jones stock takes a bit of a drop.

614
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: So just this signing had a massive effect to everyone's ADP.

615
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: So you know, like a guy like Juju might be

616
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: offering value now, but you know, this was just a

617
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: massive landing spot just in terms of I didn't see

618
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: it coming. So uh yeah, but I have him as

619
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: wide receiver twenty eight. I think this is too high.

620
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: I think his ADP will drop. I think people the

621
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: market will adjust down, and I think he ends up

622
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: in that wide receiver twenty four to twenty eight range.

623
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a wide receiver twenty seven, so I'm

624
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: right right in line with you, And you know, I

625
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: think people he's another guy. I think people are kind

626
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: of overstating his demise a little bit, just because when

627
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: you look at his underlying metro something last year, he's

628
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: still targeted on twenty six percent of his routes, which

629
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: is very very good. So you know, he's like he

630
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: should still when he's on the field, he's still getting

631
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: open and he doesn't really even need to be open

632
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: because he's a great kind of you know, contested catch receiver.

633
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's more it's been more so

634
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: than miss games over the last couple of years than

635
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: than anything underlying. So yeah, I'm not gonna ding him

636
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: too much. But I do agree. I think twenty one

637
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: is a bit high. We're kind of treating him as if,

638
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of there's just a little more

639
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: certainty than there probably is. You know, any time a

640
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: wide receiver switches teams, I think, you know, there are

641
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: some question marks, and you know, he's a little bit older,

642
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: and we know, we know the Titans are where these

643
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: wide receivers go to die too. He's gonna say Julio, Julio,

644
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: Randy Moss, who else was it? Robert Woods?

645
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, I didn't even think of that.

646
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it's it's he's not out of the

647
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: Woods yet. So I think this is a little bit hot.

648
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: I think they're probably, But at the same time, like

649
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: you said, there was not many places he was going

650
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: to go and be, you know, the unquestioned number one.

651
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: I think he should be here in Tennessee. DJ Moore

652
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: is the wide receiver twenty two. He is entering year six,

653
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: He's only it's only gonna be his age twenty six season.

654
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 2: How do you think the move to Chicago affects him?

655
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 3: You know, there's no question he's going to make this

656
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: offense and justin Fields better. I mean, we saw this,

657
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: you know, with Stefan Diggs going to Buffalo that really

658
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: you know, boosted Josh Allen's career last year with AJ

659
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: Brown really you know, took Jalen Hurts the next level.

660
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be that level, but I think

661
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 3: that this is really going to elevate Justin Fields and

662
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: the Bears. But I still think, you know, this is

663
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: a bit too high for DJ Moore specifically. You know,

664
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: he should still see a high target share, like he's

665
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: going to be the unquestioned number one target in this offense.

666
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: But just the Bears, you know, it's not a great

667
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: passing environment still, even with DJ Moore there. You know,

668
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: they ranked dead last and passway overexpected last year. Justin

669
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: Fields led the league and scramble rate and sack rate

670
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: by a large margin. And those are the two types

671
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: of plays that result in lost pass attempts as like

672
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 3: to call them, you know, which hurts the passing amy

673
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: even more. Now having DJ Moore will help all three

674
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: of those areas, probably significantly, but the Bears are still

675
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: going to be run heavy team. Fields will still scramble

676
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: a ton and probably take a high number of sacks

677
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: as well, So overall, this hurts DJ Moore's fancy value.

678
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: Not to mention there's probably not going to be that

679
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: many passing touchdowns go around either, but you know, he

680
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: will still be fine. But I consider more of a

681
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: mid range wide receiver three to be honest, and yeah, yeah,

682
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: like I did the projections and I'm really boosting justin

683
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: fields as much as I can. And he's still in

684
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: that range because you know, Cole Kmets still give me

685
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: a factor. You know, Darnell Mooney is probably better off

686
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: as being a number two wide receiver, so you know,

687
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 3: I think more is going to be consistent at least,

688
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: but it's hard to see him putting up you know,

689
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: numbers much high than this.

690
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

691
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: Actually, I actually have them in line with with adp here. Uh.

692
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: I think I think the Bears are gonna regress quite

693
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 2: a bit in terms of their passing volume because over

694
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: the first six or seven weeks of the season, I

695
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 2: mean they just did not throw the ball like at all. Yeah,

696
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: and then they started to throw more over the second

697
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: half it and I think you remember they had guys hurt,

698
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: you know, so like Mooney was was out of the

699
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: lineup for for a good stretch in the second half

700
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: of the season, and I just and Claypool never really

701
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: got fully healthier integrated in the offense. So I do

702
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: think you're gonna see a more normal amount of pass

703
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: attempts for for fields. And you know, just kind of

704
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: looking back more recently at the guys you know in

705
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: this similar situation, I think there's been concerns about about

706
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs that first year in Buffalo, there was concerns

707
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: about uh A J. Brown took to a certain extent,

708
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: even that first year in Philly. Uh And you look

709
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: at you know, those guys and how they kind of

710
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: progressed in what they were able to do. And I

711
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: think Dj Moore is, you know, in that same kind

712
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: of talent here. And he's never really had good quarterbacks

713
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: in his life, so I mean, he's always been a

714
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: pretty productive receiver, never really had great quarterbacks. Last year,

715
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: I think he just kind of bottomed out in terms

716
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: of the quarterback situation. So yeah, I actually have him

717
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: kind of in this range. I do think. I do

718
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of room to grow for Chicago.

719
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: But even if even if they kind of do what

720
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 2: I expect on the media and I think he should

721
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: get I think he should actually get here. So yeah,

722
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm a little higher on DJ here. He's still in

723
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 2: that group of receivers that I'm still better about than

724
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: the running backs. Terry McLaurin. He is the wide receiver

725
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: twenty three. He is entering year five, twenty eight years old.

726
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: He's been pretty consistent his entire career, but never hasn't

727
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: really kind of had that monster season that I think

728
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: he's capable of. But this is another year where it

729
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: doesn't look like he's probably gonna have because I mean,

730
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: you're talking about recent and Sam Howe split in the

731
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: quarterback duty, so I'm kind of in line with ADP.

732
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: What about you?

733
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, same, And you know, he's a type of receiver

734
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: that's who's better in real life fan fantasy just because

735
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: he typically gets held back just due to horrible QB play,

736
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: And he was wide receiver fourteen last year despite the

737
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: Carson Wentz Taylor Heineke disaster. Not that Sam Howell and

738
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissette means he will be a top ten receiver

739
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: this year, but it is worth pointing out that heinike

740
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 3: at least I'm willing to pepper mclauren with a ton

741
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: of targets. He had a twenty eight percent target rate

742
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: in the Heinike games and only a sixteen percent target

743
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: rate in the Carson.

744
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: Wentz Sam Hawill game. So that's a bit of a concern.

745
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: And you know, while I'm guessing they give Sam Hall

746
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: a fairly long leash to start the year. If he

747
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 3: does struggle, at least they have Jacoby Brissett as the backup.

748
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: I think that helps Terry mclaurin's you know, floor this season.

749
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: You know, at worse, he'll have Jacoby Brissette, which is

750
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: nice to have. So yeah, the wide receiver two range

751
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: sounds about right. I mean, he has the potential to

752
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: be a wide receiver one, but I don't think either

753
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: of these quarterbacks will give that to them this year.

754
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: So it's the same old sir with Terry mclaarin, where

755
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: he's he's a low end wide receiver two despite being

756
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: you know, one of the more talented wide receivers in

757
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 3: the game.

758
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's pretty much exactly where he finished in

759
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: terms of the points per game, he would we have

760
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: twenty first and happy VR and twenty six and in

761
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: PPR points per game, last year. So you know you

762
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: kind of you kind of looking at him right in

763
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: this range and yeah, I don't see massive downside. I don't,

764
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: but I don't see massive upside just given the quarterback

765
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: situation either. And then Christian Watson, he closes out the

766
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver two tier. He's the number twenty four receiver

767
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: in terms of ADP. I really liked what he what

768
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: he was able to do. I mean, he's so explosiveness

769
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 2: after the catch. He he got targeted on twenty four

770
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: percent of his routes. So that's that's very good. So,

771
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: I mean guys usually take a week entering year too.

772
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 2: Now that the question mark is you know Jordan Love,

773
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 2: So how do you how do you kind of factor

774
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: you know, the potential breakout or leap with the Jordan

775
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: Love factor.

776
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, Watson's certainly talent enough to overcome,

777
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 3: you know, the drop off from Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love.

778
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: And to be fair, it's not like Rogers is playing

779
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: you know, two of a high level last year. And

780
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: you know, I think when it comes to Watson, it's

781
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: really going to come down to his health. You know,

782
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: if he could stay healthy, I think he can beat

783
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: this AVP, but last year was a concern. You know,

784
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 3: he was in out of the lineup constantly, you know,

785
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: and he dealt with some miscues in his rookie season.

786
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: But you know, he was the wide receiver two weeks

787
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: ten through thirteen, and you know, over that stretch he

788
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: actually caught a sixty three hour t touchdown from Jordan

789
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 3: Love where he did all the work. So again that

790
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: that kind of helps me, you know, project him to

791
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 3: overcome a pretty big drop off in quarterback is he's

792
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: able to generate a lot of yards after the catch.

793
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: They also started just giving him design rush attempts, so

794
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: I think we could see him get you know, one

795
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 3: to three carries a game, maybe around the goal line.

796
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 3: I think they're going to come up with ways to

797
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 3: get him in the ball. He'll be the unquestioned number

798
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 3: one target in this offense. So he has a lot

799
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: of things going for him. It just you know, will

800
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: he stay healthy. And just because the guy has a

801
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: bunch of juries zeer one doesn't mean you could label

802
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: him as a you know.

803
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: Injury risk.

804
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 3: So I do like his upside at least at wide

805
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: receiver twenty four, even though the quarterback play could be

806
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: a drop off, although we don't really know. We haven't

807
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 3: seen Jordan Love play that much, but he's got enough

808
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: time behind Rogers and knows the offense he could surprise

809
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: people this season. So I think Watson, you know, in

810
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: this range sounds about right.

811
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

812
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: And also there's just not really other many other guys

813
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: on the Packers that are going to command a target here.

814
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: So when you see a guy twenty four percent targets

815
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 2: per route in year one, guys usually make a weep

816
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: in year two, I just you know, I think the

817
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: targets are going to be there. We seen the explosiveness,

818
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean there could be a little bit

819
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: wider range of outcomes. Maybe he could put up some duds.

820
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: But again, you know, that's why we're kind of talking

821
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: about getting as many of these guys as you can,

822
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: because I think you could say that about a lot

823
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: of the guys for him as well, you know, I

824
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: mean Drake Wender we'll talk about the next pot, but

825
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: he's the twenty five and he's kind of in a

826
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: similar situation. You know, you should see a high target rate,

827
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: but you know you could see a few duds from

828
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: him as well. So yeah, I mean, given just given

829
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: the tape that we saw from Watson, I'm still taking

830
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: him here. I still like him here. But yeah, this

831
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 2: is this kind of it just goes to show how

832
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: the wide receiver tier, in terms of the the guys

833
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: that you can really you know, peg for a high floor,

834
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: it starts to deteriorate once you get to the end

835
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: of this wide receiver two tier. So one of the

836
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: upside for Watson. And you know, because the floors are

837
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: deteriorating here, I mean, now you are starting to draft

838
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: for more upside. So I think it's it still makes

839
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. Watson should should still be a

840
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: top twenty five receiver and there's a lot of room

841
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: to grow. I mean, uh, you know, we you know,

842
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: maybe maybe the Green Bay Packers aren't very good and

843
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: they have to throw even more than last year. And

844
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: again just I mean just him and Dobbs.

845
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: So yep, all.

846
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: Right, that is going to wrap it up for our

847
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: wide receiver Tupot di just a Rica, who are you?

848
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: Who are you high on in this tier?

849
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: The guys I'm high on would be like Keenan Allen

850
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 3: for where he's going draft him at range. I do

851
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: like Amari Cooper for similar reasons. I think he has

852
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: a high floor, high ceiling range of outcomes, and just

853
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: really anybody in this range, there's not too many guys

854
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: I would necessarily avoid, even Dj Moore, I think in

855
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: the right spots, even though I'm a bit lower, you know,

856
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: you could take them, especially in best ball with justin

857
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: field stacks. But at the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 3: critical to have I think three wide receivers once this

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Speaker 3: tier is off the board.

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Speaker 1: Yep. So I think that's why I'm not being too picky.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I could poke holes in all these receivers,

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Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, you know, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I'm taking all these guys over like

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Speaker 2: the equivalent running backs.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 2: The only the only guy I think should be like

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Speaker 2: a couple of spots higher is Keenan Allen. But everyone else,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, de Bum a little bit, well,

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Speaker 2: we're on Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: I'm well, we're on yeah, Hopkins for sure.

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Speaker 2: And Judy a little while we're on. But you know

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Speaker 2: that's you know, that's kind of within the tier. I'm

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Speaker 2: still taking them over over the running backs, so you

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Speaker 2: know that that's kind of how I'm looking at this.

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