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Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello everybody, welcome

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Speaker 1: to another episode of nine O two one O m G.

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Speaker 1: It's me Jenny Garth. I'm here with my bestie Tory

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Speaker 1: Spelling and hello everyon. Hello by ladies. What a show

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Speaker 1: we have today, you guys, I'm not I'm really really excited,

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Speaker 1: uh A to talk about this episode from this week

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Speaker 1: and be we have a super special guest. And before

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Speaker 1: before we get to that, let's talk about the exciting

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Speaker 1: thing that's going to come up soon. We have our

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Speaker 1: next live event. You guys. You know we've been talking.

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Speaker 1: We're almost done with season one and it's crazy and

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Speaker 1: we feel like we should celebrate. We should have a

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Speaker 1: rat party, because that's what you do when you finish

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Speaker 1: the season of a show. So we're gonna just bring

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Speaker 1: it into the podcast world. We're gonna have a season

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Speaker 1: I have no idea who it's going to be excited.

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Speaker 1: slash nine oh two one O MG, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: you guys, I got the Donna Kelly t shirt. Did

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Speaker 1: you get you got it? Ok? Maybe we should wear

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Speaker 1: those to the to our rat party we have to

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Speaker 1: Maybe could be dazzle them or perfect. Yeah, they're so good.

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Speaker 1: Well that's really good. Fight. I'm gonna add ansis. I

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Speaker 1: told you guys before today we have a very very

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Speaker 1: special guest joining us. Uh, the one and only Darren

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Speaker 1: Starr is going to be coming on in a little

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Speaker 1: bit to talk to us about the origination of Beverly

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Speaker 1: Hills nine O two and oh. He's the creator of

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Speaker 1: our show. And I don't know, I kind of feel

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Speaker 1: like God is coming su Yeah, I'm nervous. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: our creator. He's he's our he's the big boss and ancho.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Without him, this show would not exist.

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Speaker 1: And of course, you know he went on to do

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Speaker 1: amongst god's and we're super psychees coming on to be

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Speaker 1: with us today. We haven't seen him in so long?

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Speaker 1: How long has it been to be so fun? Oh? Years?

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Speaker 1: I really I saw him on a pot Did you

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Speaker 1: podcast account. Yeah, I saw him on the computer. That

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Speaker 1: we look okay, I'm nervous. Wait were you guys nervous

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Speaker 1: around him? Like? What are easy to you? Like? Do

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Speaker 1: you feel like you owe him your career? Like what

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Speaker 1: are those feelings that you have? I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, there's some of that. Like he was

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Speaker 1: such a he was the reason why this show came

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Speaker 1: to life. You know, he created these characters and he

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Speaker 1: created everything about it. So you know, him and Aaron

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Speaker 1: it's I don't know, it's like it's like you're it's

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Speaker 1: I was always really I know you had like a

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Speaker 1: you know, he created the show, but he worked with

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Speaker 1: twenty one Spring Dance? He is Okay? Episode twenty one

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Speaker 1: Spring Dance air date was May second. Synopsis is it's

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Speaker 1: That's me. This episode was actually written by Darren Starr

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Speaker 1: and directed by Darren Starr. This was his first directing

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Speaker 1: Like it was like a huge like so many casts,

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Speaker 1: over all my o MG moments. First of all, first,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the whole um nominations for the Spring Princess

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Speaker 1: se until the dress part. That was good. Yeah, take

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Speaker 1: us to the Rodeo collection. Oh, my gosh, did they

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Speaker 1: even call it that? Now? That is a actual place

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Speaker 1: on Rodeo and you would go in and they'd have

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Speaker 1: think it's still still there Rodeo Collection now but it's

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about the white black bow dress

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Speaker 1: that um Brenda and Kelly end up both wearing. But

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Speaker 1: Pizza and Julia Roberts in that movie, do you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? She's wearing that dress. And that's

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Speaker 1: a movie from the eighties I believe, or was it

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Speaker 1: in so three years before it was you're our mathematician,

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Speaker 1: good three years. Maybe that's why it was on sale

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Speaker 1: always remember because everyone we were each other's best friends

425
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: like that. You know, it wasn't what you just saw

426
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: on camera was real in real life. And that was

427
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: so huge. Yeah, and it had been a whole season already,

428
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: so your relationships just probably continued to build. Yeah, definitely

429
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: at that point for sure. It was just Also that's

430
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: the big you know, everybody, what does that always happen

431
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: at dance a school dance, when like a group of

432
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: people just kind of dances together and takes over little

433
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: dance floor. I don't know it. Yeah, it made me

434
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: feel like all those movies that we love, Like, I

435
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like that just happens in the movies.

436
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: And I loved Iron in this episode. Mm hmmm. We

437
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: really like Steve Sanders. You saw a softer side to him.

438
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: I thought he was so great in the scene with

439
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: Jason and they're in the hallway in the kitchen. Lighting

440
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: on Jason was so magical, Um, we found out I

441
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: was adopted, just such a nice moment. I feel like

442
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: he played it so well. He really had a balance

443
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: of emotion and comedy, Like, yeah, it really humanized all

444
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: the characters too, Like it just made them so much

445
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: more relatable, each of them. On Andrea h David with

446
00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: his dancing, the comedy of the skirt, like just the

447
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: being the date of Steve and not really, I don't know,

448
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: it just felt Um, Andrea's the chainsaw, that was hilarious.

449
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: What about Okay, what about when she's watching it and

450
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: she doesn't she live with her grandma? Isn't that the

451
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: whole thing with her grandma? I was gonna ask you

452
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: because then she's like, Mom, can I borrow an evening gown? Yeah? Mom,

453
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: first of all, but then evening gown second of all?

454
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: She said, your evening gown? Like there's only one. Mom

455
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: has an evening gown up in the closet there and

456
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: it magically fits her perfectly with ginormous puff sleeves. Sound

457
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: the style though, those puffy sleeves and they were large

458
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: like and in charge. Those sleeves it fit her like

459
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: a glove. Well, ladies, Darren stars in the waiting room.

460
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: It's now, it's happening, it's happening. But we should take

461
00:27:53,400 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: a break. Okay, everybody's yeah, I can't wait. M h

462
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: Hello handsome, Hello, god, you guys are gorgeous. Why do

463
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: you get more and more handsome as you? Greatness? Boy

464
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: and boys get more handsome with age and us women

465
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: just you guys like you guys look amazing, you look amazing.

466
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: We're so excited to talk to you. I know me too.

467
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: I saw you, but for a second on that nine

468
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: O thing we did a while ago, I just gotta

469
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have my glasses on. I couldn't see you. Sorry.

470
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: I loved, loved the show you did with Chessa and Alborghini.

471
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I thought it was so good and

472
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: you guys were so good at it. I mean, everybody was.

473
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: It was like a blast. We had a great time

474
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: doing it. It was certainly a challenge. Oh my god.

475
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't look like it didn't It looked

476
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: like it didn't look like a challenge. It look fun.

477
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: We'll get together and tell you the story, but I

478
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: couldn't even was shot in Canada that I don't know

479
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: how you pulled it looks so real. Really, why does

480
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: the beach scenes, no beach scenes stuff look pretty good?

481
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: It really all felt you would never know that was

482
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: crazy when they told me they was shot there. Remember

483
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: that day, Jen, they were like carting and like plants

484
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: and palm trees. Yeah, we were like, okay, it was

485
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: everything I thought. I thought the castle looked amazing. He's

486
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: all looks so good. It was so fun to be

487
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: back together with everyone, and we completely all regressed to

488
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: our younger selves within like moments. It was crazy old

489
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: behaviors kind of bubbling right back up. Every fun right,

490
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: I can imagine. But I thought, you I got you

491
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: nailed it. I thought, thank you. That means a lot

492
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: to us. Thank you. Yes, I just have to tell you.

493
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: I watch it with my kids, Emily and Paris is

494
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: so amazing. We love it. It's so fun to watch it. Really,

495
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: remember your Paris episode? What did you have to eat

496
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: when you went to Paris? Brains brains brains? Yeah, you're

497
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: all of your you know you You've created some of

498
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: the most iconic, most colorful like I don't know. The

499
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: shows that you make just sort of transport you to

500
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: like another time where things are just better and uh

501
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: easier like this. It's fantastic, you know. I love that

502
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: about your shows. Thank you well. Starting with the one

503
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: we all did together, I mean that was the o G.

504
00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: That was your first first show with unbelievable. I don't

505
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: know if you don't even know the story that no

506
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: tell us. I can't remember exactly how We're so young,

507
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: Tory you Yeah, you were so young, you were like fifteen,

508
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: I think, Um, did you hear that Jen? I had

509
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: I had written some I had written a a number

510
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: of teenager in the movies. A producer I read a

511
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: film for when I was in my twenties went to

512
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: Fox to start work in drama, this guy Paul Stupid

513
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: and they were developing with Karen a show based on

514
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills High for a writer, and they he thought

515
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: of me and he I met I met Dad at

516
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: the Old Old at the Old House, and we just clicked.

517
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: And he saw some film, this awful movie that I

518
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: made called Doing Time on Planet Earthing. Liked it. That

519
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: was terrible, and he's like, great, do it? And like

520
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: we just I just wrote the pilot and then I

521
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: don't know, at the beginning, it was just like me

522
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: and him. There was like it was so like it

523
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: was so um fun and I don't know, it was

524
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: just like one of those things where I thought, this

525
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: is so great. Does anybody realize how good this show is.

526
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: We made the pilot and I was like, this is amazing,

527
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: and and Fox was kind of like, well, we don't know.

528
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: And then it tested through the roof the pilot the

529
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: roof because they and they um teenagers could be actually successful.

530
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 1: And I think Tori recommended some actors. I remember that

531
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: we hadn't cast we had not cast, uh Jason's role,

532
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: And so the very last minute and I think you knew.

533
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: You mentioned that, you mentioned Shannon, you mentioned Jason. You

534
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: like you knew all these acts. It was such a

535
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: like a TV fan. Shannon I knew from our house,

536
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: and Heather's from and you came into read. Okay, Jenny,

537
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: you came in to read. I was so green that

538
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: you did this audition. And during the audition, like it

539
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: was it was that you waved and said a lot

540
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: of people and I thought you were waving at me.

541
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: She's in a character's doing the role. He wanted be

542
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: wigging out, like to be making this show with Aaron

543
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: Spelling and like testing through the roof, like I would

544
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: have been freaking out if I was you, like with

545
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: happiness to say he made it. He was not intimidating.

546
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: He made it really fun. He really was Your dad

547
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: was just so um he he was. He was very creative,

548
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: so it felt like working with somebody like creative and

549
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: or another writer, not like, uh, you know, the executive.

550
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: And he was what I loved this. He was always

551
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: so nervous about everything. And I would say, Tom, why

552
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: are you nervous going to the studio and pitching things?

553
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you miss about where spellings? He

554
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: would be like, I have spilkus yeah were yeah exactly.

555
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: He would still get nervous and and be like, I

556
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: can't believe you're getting nervous about anything. So where did

557
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: the title come from? So originally it was Class of

558
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills that was the title, and then Barry Diller

559
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: had this idea to call it Girls nine or two

560
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: and O, which I thought was the worst time I

561
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: ever heard of. I thought, that's horrible. You know, zip

562
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: code like and he was smart because I I thought, like,

563
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: to me, it was a show about high school and

564
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: he's like, no, it's more than that, and he I

565
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: just thought, Okay, that's the beauty of collaborating, right, because

566
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: you don't have all the answers. Nobody has all the

567
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: right answers, And it's so great when a group of

568
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: people come together and make a show, especially like this

569
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: where I don't know, everybody just kind of chimed in

570
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: and helped out and it made it so wonderful. I

571
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: have a question. Did Shannon and Jason do a chemistry

572
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: read together? Yes? Yes, okay, Jason read with Shannon. Wasn't

573
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: actually chemistry, but it was like for the from the

574
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: first time Jason read, it was already cast and she

575
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: read with him, and afterwards he walked out and she

576
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: was like yeah, Like she was like, I like them.

577
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: Was there anyone else up for the role of Brandon

578
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: that we would know? Uh? I don't know they were.

579
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: I just remember there were a couple of actors that

580
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember the names, nobody that went on to

581
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: big like stardom or anything that that we looked at.

582
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: But nobody like really clicked and really the role wasn't

583
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: cast since the very last moment. He was the last

584
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: role cast in the pilot. Yes, he was on another

585
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: show that was getting canceled, and when that show kind

586
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: of like they that show, he was suddenly available. Was that,

587
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: sister Kate? Yes? Wow? Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you directed

588
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: the first step? No, you directed this episode we're talking

589
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: about today. I directed the Spring Spring episode of the

590
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 1: first season. Yeah, it's the episode that we're talking we're

591
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: rewatching today and talking about. So we're seeing masterful directing.

592
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: And actually the first thing I directed was it. Were

593
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: you excited? Were you nervous? Like, that's a big step.

594
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: I think I was definitely more nervous than anything else.

595
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: It's not, you know, like one of those things we

596
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: watch what else do it? But until you're doing it,

597
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: you don't know what they really to do it, until

598
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: you call that first action. Yeah, a big episode for

599
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: your directorial debut. That was. It was a lot happened

600
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: in that episode stylistically. It was so beautiful though. Yeah,

601
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: it's not like a John Hughes film, kind of like

602
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I was watching a nineties wrong call.

603
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: You know. Well, that was like the whole idea behind

604
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: that for me was the that there had been these

605
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: great John Hughes movies, but no one had done it

606
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: for television, and quite that John Hughes way, I felt

607
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: like captured that for TV. Yeah, he's got chills. I

608
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: love that. It's so true though, So back to the original,

609
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: uh uh, the onset of the show. You said before

610
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: that your sister was the sort of music for inspirations

611
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: for Brenda. I was just thinking about when I wrote

612
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: just think of my sister so great. You guys were close, right, yeah,

613
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: we were close. And then so we follow a lot

614
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: for which character was most like you. I guess Random

615
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: was most like me, you know, um, the sort of

616
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: like you know, Jason made it more interesting than I

617
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: was in high school. But but I guess that's a

618
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: character because I guess that I could relate to the most.

619
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: You was the first episode, the pilot episode. It was

620
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: was it meant to be a movie or was it

621
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: just meant to be a two hour situation? You know,

622
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: I had only written movies up to that point, so

623
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: that's all I knew how to do. So I wrote

624
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: it in a two hour movie, and I think it

625
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: ended up being closer than ninety minutes or something like

626
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: that when it aired, when it was cut and everything. Yeah,

627
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: how do they do that? How they don't know how

628
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: they did that? How they what made it ninety minutes? Yeah?

629
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: Like how do they air ninety minutes back then? Back then?

630
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: I think they did air as ninety minutes back then?

631
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: I said, nothing else to air? Was just starting out. Yeah,

632
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: I remember we were always on the verge of cancelation

633
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: that first season. It wasn't that. Yeah, is that the truth?

634
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: It wasn't a hit, right, wasn't a hit? With the

635
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: episodes you get like dribbled in, dribble in like three episodes,

636
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: and we first got twelve, and they ordered four and

637
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: they ordered three. Oh. Air was always on the phone

638
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: beating them up and trying to get them to order more.

639
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: You know what would have happened if they didn't order more.

640
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: We wouldn't all be sitting here talking to each other.

641
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: I know. It's so scary to think about how things

642
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: gonna go on. And and then you remember we came

643
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: back in the summer that first season and it was

644
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: it was like a good news bad news thing. When

645
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: Chuck Rosen and I went to meet the network, they're like,

646
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: great news, you guys are doing so well, and we

647
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: kind of made it through that first season, which was

648
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: still episodes at right, and then we're thinking that we're

649
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: gonna take this break. I'm not sure even knew this,

650
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: but they told us in like April or May that,

651
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: you know, just as we finished production that were that

652
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: we were going to get renewed. They wanted us to

653
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: come back in the summer, which meant that we couldn't

654
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: take a break. So that was the second season was

655
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: Summer the Beach. Oh my gosh, already we started. We

656
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: started filming like immediately. I think it aired in five

657
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: so we were like filming in May. We never really

658
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: barely No, it is for the no ite is for

659
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: the right. But Chuck Rosen was going on vacation with

660
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: his family me to Hawaiian. The only way to keep

661
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: going was I had to go on vacation with him

662
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: and his family to Hawaii. So good how that the

663
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: four seasons on Maui, I'm like, I've never been there,

664
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: and I was there with Chuck and his family and

665
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: his little kids and were standing by the pool drinking

666
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: and figuring out the next season. And matter to know,

667
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. That's a perfect way to figure it out.

668
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it was. It was. It's a crazy

669
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: memily that we have actually did I wanted to know

670
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: because we have memories of how it went down. The

671
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: story of the casting of Luke I don't think. I

672
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: guess I don't remember being that complicated. You know, we

673
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: felt like we didn't have this sort of bad boy

674
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: character from the was on the pilot, and so we

675
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: kind of as we got together as a writing staff,

676
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: we kind of thought, we need character. And I don't

677
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: know if it's a network idea where it came from,

678
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: or was you know, Aaron's idea, But so we developed

679
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: a character of Dylan and then we I don't remember

680
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: reading anybody except for Luke. I just remember Luke coming

681
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: in and thinking like, oh my god, he's perfect and

682
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: he was paving parking lots at the time, and and

683
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: then like the next day he was like one basically.

684
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: And in the first season we feel like he's not

685
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: in it that much. Was he only cast like seven

686
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: out of or how did that go? He probably was,

687
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: but he was in it. He had the he was

688
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: had an affair with Brenda, and in that first episode

689
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: that he was in, he and Brandon were surfing and

690
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I guess I remember Luke a bunch

691
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,479
Speaker 1: of the first season, but he probably was instead out

692
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: of thirteen. Basically, you know, he wasn't in He wasn't

693
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: meant to be in all of them because it was

694
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: like a new character, we're gonna shook out. But had

695
00:41:50,160 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: some good episodes that first season. Are you like me,

696
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: like you don't like to watch your work back? Do

697
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: you have you watched? Well, I have to say I have.

698
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: I haven't watched Spring Dance, but I've seen I don't.

699
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: I saw a Slumber Party recently, which I think is

700
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: so good. There's two episodes I saw in both of them,

701
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: but you're both and all you're both in both of them,

702
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: slumber Party and the Perfect Mom episode. I don't know why.

703
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: I went back to see it, and it's like, have

704
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: you seen that one lately? We did? We watched that.

705
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: It's good? Isn't it really good? I mean like I

706
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: watched and I was like, wow, it was better than

707
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: I even remembered it being it stands the test of time.

708
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: I love it. And the and you're the woman that

709
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: plays your mom is like fantastic. I know she's so great.

710
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: She lives like somewhere else now and she's a minister,

711
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: you know. I googled her and I found that out

712
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: like really, just like about a month ago. I watched

713
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: it just I think it was because it was I

714
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: just saw that nine of when it was on the

715
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: original series on Hulu. So once I saw it, and

716
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: I was like, I just randomly clicked on that episode

717
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: to watch it. I thought I thought I was gonna

718
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: watch it for five minutes. I just like watched the

719
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: whole thing. You get sucked in, right, Ye. We hadn't

720
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: rewatched since we filmed it, so rewatching it now, it's

721
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: so relevant except for like the cell phones that are

722
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: like huge bricks. Other than that, the clothings up to date,

723
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: because it's all around again. It's so fun though, to

724
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: watch it for the first time and we're kind of

725
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: fanning out, like we're watching it as fans, like somehow

726
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 1: removing ourselves from from it all. I mean, I'm watching

727
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: an episode like I wrote that episode and I'm watching

728
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: it and I don't even remember I don't remember me,

729
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember the story. So I'm like kind of

730
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: like getting surprised as I'm watching it, like you know,

731
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I literally could not remember the storyline.

732
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: So it's kind of all surprised. Do you find that

733
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: when you're watching them, like you don't even remember the story? Yeah, definitely,

734
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: I have a really bad memory. Tory has to fill

735
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: me in on everything. But um, it's so good to

736
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: watch it because it kind of like refreshes, it brings

737
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: it all back a little bit. Yeah, and you were there, Yeah,

738
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: you were there? Well, I mean melrose Place? Come about that?

739
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: They that box was like, we want to spin off?

740
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: Or did you guys think of it? Come to wait?

741
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: Wasn't it the construction guy in the backyard, wasn't it right?

742
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: That's how it Melrose Place. They wanted to spin off. First,

743
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: they wanted a college show, and I I said, you guys,

744
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: we can't do a college show because these characters are

745
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 1: gonna go to college. And they didn't really think about

746
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: that there. They didn't have this. They didn't realize that

747
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: the cast of nine or two and oh in orders

748
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: for the show too Ball was going to like leave

749
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: high school. And I think when they you know, you

750
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: know that we were in high school for two seasons

751
00:44:52,880 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: Junior year Two's basically, Um, and I had lived in

752
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: a building like that. So I had this idea for

753
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: this show, and we kind of shoehorned it in. It

754
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 1: wasn't you know. It was sort of like it wasn't

755
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: the most organic spin off, but we kind of found

756
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: a way to kind of incorporate. You remember Jake and

757
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: he was the handyman at your mom's wedding? Was that

758
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: what it was? And you had an affair with him?

759
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: That story would not fly today. It was basically statutory rate.

760
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 1: He was a little older. He was a little older. Yeah, yeah,

761
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: you were very precocious. Kelly was very precious. So many

762
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: of the stories don't wouldn't work now. I mean, but

763
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: I find on our show that there aren't a lot

764
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: of storylines where I say to myself, I don't think

765
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: that would fly today. There are a few moments we've

766
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: had so far in the first season where you know,

767
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: things are so different now, and uh, I haven't found

768
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: myself thinking that very often. Yeah, but yeah, that that

769
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: was one of them. That was one of them, for sure.

770
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: I look back, I'm like, wow, even nobody likes so

771
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: a word at that time. Nope. Yeah, And and Brenda

772
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: was notoriously always going for older men in the first episode.

773
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: We feel like every episode in the pilot you had

774
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: affair with our college kid or something like that. Yeah,

775
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: the creepy college by Yeah, he's so creepy. Yeah yeah,

776
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: and I'm crying. You have always your shows are always,

777
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: like I said before, very um beautiful to the eye.

778
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: And a big part of that's fashion, right, Like I

779
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: know that you said that that wasn't something that you

780
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: were really concerned about in the beginning, but then you realize,

781
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: I you know, Aaron was always very concerned about fashion.

782
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: Your dad was always very in wardrobe and everything like

783
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: that always, And I never thought of nine o two

784
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, I mean, you think about Dynasty,

785
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: that's such a fashion show. But to me, I just thought, like,

786
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: who cares what everybody's wearing? But um, you know, and

787
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: that's place. But he would always have Aaron would always

788
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: have like, um, wardrobe coming to office and you look

789
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: at everything, and first I thought, well, how does he

790
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: even know? But he had an eye, he knew. He

791
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: had a real sense of like what people wearing, with

792
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: characters wearing, and also how important wardrobe would be. Um,

793
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: wardrope and hair and makeup was something I really didn't

794
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: think about so I definitely learned a lot about that

795
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: from Aaron and even on that episode Perfect Mom. I

796
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: remember showing friends and episode when it aired, and they

797
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: were just like looking at the clothes because it was

798
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: a fashion it really the clothes, And I thought, but like,

799
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: aren't you like paying attention to the story of the characters,

800
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: But my beautiful writing, people do I mean people watch

801
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: TV for the clothes, and they watch it for the interior,

802
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: and they watch it for the set. I really feel

803
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: like they do. She used to come home with polaroids.

804
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: My dad always had polaroids in his briefcase. Yeah, and

805
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: from his office, and he'd be like, what do you

806
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: think the skirt? And it was always in the hair.

807
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: Do I think I want to change it? He would

808
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: ask my opinion, but he had the opinions as well,

809
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: and it was I used my friends and I would laugh.

810
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: They'd be like, your dad's into that. I'm like, yeah,

811
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: who knew? Well he knew? No, well he knew was

812
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: all part of Like look, that's part of in a

813
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: real old school way, like that's part of making movies,

814
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, old Hollywood, Like you look at all the

815
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: hair and makeup and wardrobe tests and everything like that,

816
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: though they always would do those. Um, so yeah, I

817
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: saw how important it became, especially on our shows, you know. Yeah,

818
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: it became a huge part of your shows. I mean

819
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: Sex in the City was just like that was the

820
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: show for fashion to watch, and now Emilia in Paris

821
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: just the same. Well you're still working with Pat right, Yeah,

822
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: I work at Field, so that's yeah, that's a big

823
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: part of why that happens because of her. She's just

824
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: a genius and she just goes you know, and she

825
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: goes out there and I feel like she entered like

826
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: the clothes become entertaining and people watch for them. And

827
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, when I was doing Sex and the City

828
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: with her at the beginning, I would I would sort

829
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: of get annoyed, like, you know, we can't hear the

830
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: dialogue because the closures speak are so loud. Yeah, it's

831
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: like you can't, like, who's gonna like listen to what

832
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: they're saying. They're just staring like kind of basically in

833
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: shock at what some of these characters are wearing. And

834
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: um but I know that the audience loves and I

835
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, I gave her a lot of rope, and

836
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: I trust her and some I realized I look at

837
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: stuff and I'm like, it's crazy, but it's fun, you know,

838
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, we're not doing a documentary.

839
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: Not doing a documentary, right? Yeah? Have you? I was curious,

840
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, have you ever gone to the darker side?

841
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: Have you ever wanted to explore like creating something not

842
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: quite so colorful? And I don't know, I I like

843
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: a Gritt've done very glasses show. I've always done pretty

844
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: glasses shows. I mean, I actually like, um, I don't know.

845
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: I would. I think if the material is right and

846
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: if I could really connect to it. You know, I

847
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: actually love science fiction. I love watching science fiction. But

848
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: you know, I think they but I think they could

849
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: have fashion in the future also or on the board

850
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 1: like space. I don't like horror, no do you loves

851
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: I can't watch it. I just can't. It disturbed me

852
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: too much. Yeah you know nightmares. Yeah, well, because you know,

853
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: like as actors, like you get tired of just doing

854
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: a drama and you want to go try comedy and

855
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: then you want to go to a western like you

856
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: want to try to I would like to. I would,

857
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I I you know, side over yet so

858
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: it would be fun to try to do different things

859
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: for sure. You know, it's really just for me. It's

860
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: about what I can write and really connect to as

861
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: a writer that I can that I can do it justice.

862
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would. I think it'd be cool to

863
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: do with I love thrillers. I don't love horror, but

864
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: I love thrillers, you know, mysteries that sort of stuff. Right.

865
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: Can we go back to Sex Mas City? For sure? Fan?

866
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: So I have to ask you, the character is on

867
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: Sex of the City, who would you like in Kelly

868
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: and Donna to the characters? Okay, I have to say,

869
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: And I know this is like not you know, maybe

870
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: that's like a the answer you want, But I just

871
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: think there's so I think Kelly and Donna are so different.

872
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: I think there there are some the own people. I

873
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: don't think of them in comparison to other characters, you

874
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I can't. I just think

875
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: they're they're Kelly and Donna. I don't I think that,

876
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: like you know, I think I would. I think you're

877
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: just both Samantha House that do you want to be Samantha? No,

878
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: that's you, I know. And I'm not like pro I'm

879
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: not like, you're not no in real life wherein Kelly

880
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: was I feel like the great the great thing is

881
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: I feel like every woman and man has a side

882
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: of every character on Sex. Yes, exactly, we all have

883
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of that totally. There's always a little Miranda,

884
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: a little Charlotte, little carry exactly, you're not. No One's

885
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: everything exactly exactly one of those Yes, no one's exactly

886
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: one of these people, totally totally. Who would you be though,

887
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: from Sex in the City. You know, I'd probably be

888
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: to carry Mr Big, No, I would I don't know.

889
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: Mr Big was a little like, I'm not like that

890
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: emotionally distant. He's pretty emotionally, you know, emostly cut off.

891
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: I'd probably be carry. I mean, she's a writer, she's

892
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: writing about stuff. I think she had a great sense

893
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 1: of humor. I mean, you know, I think I would

894
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: just most identify with her only because she's like the

895
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: writer character of the group. You um, you film Emily

896
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: in Paris in Paris, Yeah, and we start filming. It

897
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: was great. I mean, we start we go back in

898
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: the third we start filming the second season. Are you

899
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: going back to Paris? We started the south of France

900
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: and then I know, you know, we gotta do it

901
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: still if you ever need some cameos were available. All right,

902
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: we can hold your script if you'd like, I mean,

903
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: would really just get your glasses. You can see the sides.

904
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: Just come on over and visit anytime. We can do that.

905
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: We can do our podcasts from there. There you go, BTS.

906
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: We could do behind the scenes for you. That's right.

907
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: I love I love that. Oh my god. Lily Collins

908
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: was on the reboot of nine or two and that

909
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: was her first job. What, Oh my god, I didn't

910
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: remember that. Oh my god. Wait, so the woman with

911
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: the young people, the new young people, Yes, the one

912
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: with the young people. What were you you young when?

913
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: But when they rebooted it, I wasn't young anymore. They

914
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: got young again. Yeah, oh I didn't know that. I

915
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: didn't know that Lily. She'd be a good guest for

916
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: you guys. Talk about that. When they did the reboot

917
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: of nine, did they come to you. No, No, not

918
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: at all, not at all, because you know, it was

919
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: just owned by them, and I think they didn't want

920
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: after hey meum, but they just went off and did it. Yeah,

921
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: we have issues with that one, even though Jen's started it.

922
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: I kind of read about in Variety like all of

923
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they killed your mother off, Like that's

924
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: the thing I didn't like because I was like, that's

925
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: an original nine character. They shouldn't mess with that, right. Yeah, yes,

926
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: I read about Variety while I was doing a show

927
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: for the c W. Oh my god, were you like

928
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: what we Yeah? Um, yeah, I think we all were.

929
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: I think we all were. Y Yeah, definitely. And then

930
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: the crazy movies they did on the c W. No, no,

931
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: on Lifetime, Lifetime, but the real life of the did

932
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: you did you like the person that played you? I thought,

933
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: you know what I looked at At first I was appalled,

934
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: and then I just laughed. I mean you have to laugh, right,

935
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: you had to laugh at that? Yeah, you just have

936
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: to laugh. The only one that looked the girl that

937
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: played me looked just like me, Like I feel like

938
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: I could hire her as my double for something. She was.

939
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: She was good. Yea. It captured a little bit of

940
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: the beginning, it did, I have to say, yeah, it did.

941
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: It captured a little bit at the beginning. I don't

942
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: know where they got it all from, but it did

943
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: sort of like, yeah, I heard that they just compiled

944
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: that from um all of our interviews or books that

945
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: we had written, Like Jason wrote a book, I wrote

946
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: a book. You've written books. So they took a lot

947
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: of that material and pasted it all together. And I

948
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: just don't how do you come to us and asking

949
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: because they went a little bit differently fact checked a

950
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: little bit right, that would have been nice. And you

951
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: know what, I'm curious because your shows are so stylized.

952
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep the in that upset it like

953
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: eight times. But is that like when you're writing, when

954
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: you're Darren sitting down to write something, is that how

955
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: you see the world like sort of through those beautiful lenses?

956
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: You know? I keep thinking I'm writing something realistic and

957
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: then people come and tell me it's stylized, So it

958
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: is that's how you see the world sort of sort of,

959
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: I guess so to a degree, Yeah, that's such a

960
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: fun way to see the world. Though, Yeah, I mean

961
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: I feel like emotionally, I think the characters have a

962
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: lot of emotional truth to them. That's important. That's the

963
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: important thing. And I think people, yeah, but do you

964
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: have a lot of characters are just basically all these

965
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: shows are in a way characters in a room talking

966
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 1: to each other. So it's basically like the settings become

967
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: visually have to say pull you in, because ultimately the

968
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: shows are just about people talking, all of them and

969
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: personal drama. So yeah, I mean that's the thing people

970
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: always say. What that's the number one question that I've

971
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: always been asked on interviews and I'm sure you tutor

972
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: is um, why do you think it struck such a

973
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: chord with people? Why do you think people loved Beverly

974
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: Hills nine o two one oh so much? And why

975
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: is it standing the test of time? And that's the answer.

976
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: Like it was this fantastic, amazing world that no one

977
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: had ever seen before Beverly Hills and that lifestyle, but

978
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: it was just it's so much more about the characters

979
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: and the integration of the characters and like the relatability. Yeah,

980
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't. It was all about the characters.

981
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't as people can say, oh, it's superficial and shallow,

982
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: but it really wasn't, because the characters had depth to

983
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: them and they were relatable. I mean, it's all and

984
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: it was like the window dress is great, but that's

985
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: not when the show was utual takes you so far. Yeah,

986
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: it only takes so far exactly because that anybody can

987
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: do that show. Anybody can shoot a show that looks great.

988
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: But it's really all about the cast, the characters, the um,

989
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: the emotion, and it all has to click, you know,

990
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: the writing and the cast. You gotta get so lucky

991
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: for all to come together. It's kind of amazing when

992
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: it does. Like on our show, it's like you think

993
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: all the little things that might not have happened if

994
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: you didn't have exactly the cast that we had, you know,

995
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: like it might not have worked. You know, it all

996
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: has to come together. You know. It's cant of making

997
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: me get a little misty eyed because I thought that

998
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: because you directed this episode Spring Dance, and at the

999
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: very end, when the whole gang starts dancing on the

1000
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: dance floor, it stirred something in me that I couldn't deny.

1001
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: You know. It was like, oh, those people in that

1002
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: moment and just yeah, and you guys you had that

1003
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: you did sort of have that like real camaraderie with

1004
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: each other and that real, that real connection, and it

1005
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: came through you know, it was like you were able

1006
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: to you really were able to kind of like get

1007
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: it on the screen, that feeling of what it's like

1008
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: to sort of like have these best friends in high

1009
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: school together because you sort of also felt that way

1010
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: about each other. Yeah at the time, you know, they

1011
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,959
Speaker 1: call it lightning in a bottle, right, yeah, I know. Yeah,

1012
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: it's just you gotta get you do have to get lucky.

1013
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: You can work so hard, but you gotta get lucky.

1014
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: I remember, I really remember that. I remember that shot.

1015
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: It was like for me, it was so exciting, you know,

1016
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: it was like I was working with a crane that

1017
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 1: was like, you know, exciting. The big guns came out. Yeah, right, yeah,

1018
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: the toys Darren, Do you have a favorite episode of Original? Yeah?

1019
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's a hard question. Do I love Donna Graduates,

1020
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: Donna Martin graduates who knew? Oh my gosh. Um, you know,

1021
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 1: because I was there so much in the first few years,

1022
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: I was a by the ones that are most top

1023
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: of my mind. That's when I was there ad the time.

1024
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: I love Swint Dance, I really do. Maybe because I

1025
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: directed it was the first had directive, But I just

1026
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: I just like I love the episode. I love all

1027
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: the emotion that I love. Like just um, I love

1028
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: the comedy. I remember you Tory, like wearing that crazy

1029
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: hoop skirts and coming out of a limo. How funny

1030
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: you were and trying to sit down. I don't know,

1031
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: just all these things that were there, just like we're

1032
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: just so excited to have that fun for me. Yeah,

1033
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: that was funny and just had had emotion and it

1034
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: was I think great. I was like a little John

1035
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: Hughes movie and it kind of captured the ensemble so well.

1036
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: I thought Iron was so good in this episode. He

1037
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: was so good. Yes, I remember Brandon in the little

1038
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: kitchen hallway and lighting on them. Oh my god, was gorgeous.

1039
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: But his emotions were so great. You directed him so beautifully,

1040
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: like thank you, thank you, piece for me him. I

1041
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: thought Iron was great in the reboots. He was so

1042
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: he looks he looks amazing, he looks fantastic, he's so built.

1043
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: He's a handsome, handsome devil. Yeah. Yeah, everyone, I mean

1044
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: everyone's everyone's held together pretty good. Yeah, Brian looked amazing. Yeah,

1045
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: it's really true. Everybody looks so. Everybody looks so good.

1046
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: We're doing our best to make you proud of you.

1047
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: You have to keep it up for you do well.

1048
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: All the fans out there that you that still watch

1049
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: the show and see you and they're like, wow, it

1050
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: still looks like you in my school. You know, we've

1051
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: got a few more years in us. Yeah, a lot

1052
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: more than a lot, more than a few. I don't know.

1053
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: We boasted further back right right. You are so fun

1054
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Speaker 1: to talk to. I feel like, oh my God, should

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Speaker 1: be great to see you in personally. Do it. We'll

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Speaker 1: do it. Let's do it in l A. Let's find

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Speaker 1: each other. I'm here. I go back to France and

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Speaker 1: like to like a week and a half to do

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Speaker 1: this next season in Paris, son, are you there for

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Speaker 1: how long? Till till the end of till the end

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Speaker 1: of July? And right now they have a lock they

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Speaker 1: have a lockdown, which is a little weird. Um, they're

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Speaker 1: not doing so well, but you do the quarantine two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Then when you get there one week, one week, one week,

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Speaker 1: and then it doesn't have start filming. Yeah we're able

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Speaker 1: to film. But you know, we filmed Younger, the series

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Speaker 1: I've doing in New York. The last season just finished

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Speaker 1: and we thank you. We filmed um in during the

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Speaker 1: pandemic and you know we have to amass on set

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Speaker 1: the whole time. I don't know if you guys have

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Speaker 1: worked at all during this period, but it's like you

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Speaker 1: have to wear masks on the set and it's just,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not fun, but at least it's worth doing.

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Speaker 1: It's worth doing. It's not fun, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: So which eisode? How many episodes have you done on

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Speaker 1: the podcast? Now? This is our spring dance, so it's

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Speaker 1: twenty one. You really have one more. Every episode we've

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Speaker 1: done since the beginning of the show. It's fun for us.

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Speaker 1: We're just reliving it. It's like it's such a gift

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Speaker 1: to be able to go back and watch all of

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Speaker 1: this from one. So what's your favorite show between one

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Speaker 1: and now that you've seen the first season? Do you

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Speaker 1: have favorites? Were ones that are surprising that you're like,

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was so good, Or I don't

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Speaker 1: realize that was so bad that happened that happened that

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Speaker 1: was Yes, there was an episode that we found out

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Speaker 1: that the network throughout like the weekend before everything started

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Speaker 1: the Baseball one training I was training. We heard that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was like one or two episodes ago. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: they told us that it was We don't know if

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Speaker 1: this is true, but we heard that this was an

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Speaker 1: episode that they threw out the script about Brandon meeting

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Speaker 1: a veteran and having like a whole thing with a vet. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and then they had to come up with something over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, and this is what they came up with,

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Speaker 1: the baseball one. Yeah, it was a fun episode. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't our favorite, but it felt difference a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Did it feel like it was written over the weekend?

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Speaker 1: Basically a little bit? A little bit. It was a

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Speaker 1: little bad news bears. It didn't feel like right as much. So.

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Speaker 1: Which one from the first season so far towards your favorite?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I still it's the iconic ones. It's Sleepover,

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Speaker 1: superber Parties, was slumber Party sorry, and and Spring Dance

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Speaker 1: for sure. I always say my favorite was the Pilot

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Speaker 1: because you do that. Oh my god. I loved everything

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Speaker 1: about the Pilot, the way it looked and the way

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Speaker 1: it was shot, and just it blew my mind. That

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Speaker 1: I also said, look like a John Hughes movie, Like

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Speaker 1: it was just perfect. Hunter director at the time directed that,

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Speaker 1: And No, I thought the Pilot when I saw it

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Speaker 1: was was like, this is amazing. This is so good,

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Speaker 1: and I and the network was like, yeah, we'll see

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, don't you guys get it? But they

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Speaker 1: did eventually because I thought the pilot was like you

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Speaker 1: did that was like really strong. Yeah, we hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: it before, not on TV now and then, but now

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Speaker 1: I like the pilot and I think this one is

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Speaker 1: a close second. All right, thank you, thank you, good job,

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Speaker 1: good job, thank you. Yeah, thank you for spending time

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Speaker 1: with us, for doing this. Let me reiterate, for all

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Speaker 1: those people out there that are there, they're listening to it,

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Speaker 1: they're not watching on zoom. How gorgeous you guys look,

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Speaker 1: you look amazing. Thanks, you'd be safe over there, all okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: bye bye, thank you. I was super nervous. It's like

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Speaker 1: talking to your creator, like the like the men that

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Speaker 1: made you. It's so funny talking to him. I still

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Speaker 1: revert it back in my head. I was like, careful

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Speaker 1: what you say, Like I don't know, it's the creator.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like daughter. He was forced to cast Like

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Speaker 1: I felt that way and like I wanted to say

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Speaker 1: something but I couldn't. And I'm just like God, all

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Speaker 1: these years, I've wondered, was he like, oh, I have

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Speaker 1: to cast her, like I'm still wondering I have to

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Speaker 1: cast her. I don't think you said that's how I

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Speaker 1: feel like. You know, you have to get you have

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Speaker 1: to let go of that feeling. Lady, I didn't go

1137
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Speaker 1: to get What is it? They say? Cord cutting? Okay,

1138
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Speaker 1: we need to we need to extract him with me. Yeah,

1139
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: we needed to go to like a healer in like

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Speaker 1: ally or something. Okay, let's go. It sounds like a

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Speaker 1: good episode. What a genuine, kind, down to earth human

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Speaker 1: being with so much success, so humble mm hmm. He

1143
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be humble, he's a genius, but he is.

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Speaker 1: But he was great and and so um. It's so

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Speaker 1: great to have his perspective too, because we were so

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Speaker 1: young and green at that moment and we didn't know

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Speaker 1: what was happening, and we were just on the set

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Speaker 1: doing the work and he was back there, you know,

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Speaker 1: with the strings, the puppeteer. He was making it, making

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Speaker 1: it all up. What a mind. I love it. It's

1151
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Speaker 1: funny when he said that he was excited for the crane,

1152
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Speaker 1: because that was like a yeah, yeah, for sure, his

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Speaker 1: first episode directing. I wonder I didn't ask him, but

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask him if he had gone on

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Speaker 1: to direct more shows or direct on his other shows.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to know, but I didn't have time. Well,

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Speaker 1: when when we joined him in Paris, we'll ask him.

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Speaker 1: All right, yes, he's booking the tickets, right, Oh is

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Speaker 1: he okay? I think so? Yeah? Like insight as to

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Speaker 1: have their starting production for Emily in Pairs season two.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think that info is out yet, so

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Speaker 1: people will be season three or season two mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: But that's it for today. That's it for this episode,

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Speaker 1: you guys, so we should we should wrap it up,

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Speaker 1: I say, speaking of wrapping it up. Rap party, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: wrap good one. Nice tie says, Let's see how you

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Speaker 1: did that? Are big Rap Party is coming up in

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Speaker 1: two weeks. What's the date on that tour? That'll be

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Speaker 1: on April at five pm Pacific Standard time eight p

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Speaker 1: m Eastern Standard time, and you can join us for

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: our live rap party. Yeah, come hang out. We have

1172
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Speaker 1: to really try to make it like a rat party.

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01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how we're going to pull that off,

1174
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: but we gotta. We got a brainstorm. You can get

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Speaker 1: your tickets on location live dot com slash nine o

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Speaker 1: two one zero. Well, I'll just make it like our

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Speaker 1: original rap party, and I'll get drunk and puke and

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01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: you hold my hair, get wasted and throw up in

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: a garbage again somewhere, and then it'll be like about

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Speaker 1: party here you got beforehand, colassie or classy gals? All Right,

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Speaker 1: you guys think so much for joining us this week? Uh?

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01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 1: Next week coming up is the season finale of season one,

1183
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: which is very excited, exciting episode twenty two Home Again,

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Speaker 1: so everybody watch in the whole season. Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's been so much fun. But I'll save that for

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Speaker 1: next week. Okay, see you next week, you guys, Love

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Speaker 1: you one Love