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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and out podcast. Marry Christmas to all

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Speaker 1: my parents out there. I don't mean my actual parents,

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Speaker 1: Get you in and out of here on Christmas. So

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Speaker 1: hopefully everyone's having a good holiday, enjoying their families and

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Speaker 1: fifties is cold for me. Uh So, yeah, you guys

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Speaker 1: a little Christmas special with my good buddy, my gambling partner,

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Speaker 1: and someone who probably respects Indiana as little as I

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Speaker 1: I already looked at their schedule at Penn State, at Oregon,

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Speaker 1: beat the shit out of them. So thank you Indiana

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Speaker 1: for ruining our weekend. You two SMU, but obviously the

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Speaker 1: Rams and the forty nine ers ruined mine Stucky's weekend

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Speaker 1: because we bet against the Rams and on the forty

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Speaker 1: surely did not. So Stucky, quick turnaround here. Not used

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Speaker 1: how you doing, brother, good Ben?

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Speaker 2: You have Sunday was rough? I had the is a favor,

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Speaker 2: it was my only winner. Imagine that.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you're a you're a sickoh on that one. I

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Speaker 2: The Rams came out flat as we thought, and the

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Speaker 2: Jets just countless mistakes. Usually you get the home dog

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Speaker 2: This year, for whatever reason, the NFL, the spots just

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Speaker 2: football Wednesday Thursday. We have bowls all week NFL Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's happy holidays to everybody. Enjoy Merry Christmas,

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Speaker 2: enjoy the football and your couch time. And yeah, Indiana,

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Speaker 2: I thought like their their run defense held up well.

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Speaker 2: home like what I thought Tennessee too, punting down seventeen like,

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Speaker 2: Penn State lost on COPT champions Week, our double digit favorites,

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Speaker 1: You know what, before we dive into Wednesday, I would

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Speaker 1: But you know, Andy's so good at getting them on,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I will say on the surface, this

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Speaker 2: is your classic Commlin spot, right, everyone says they're cooked.

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Speaker 2: They lost on the road twice to two really good teams.

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Speaker 1: Isn't he bad on short weeks though?

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought that was something that came up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Thursday Night. I think he has been great. Monday Night.

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Speaker 2: I know Monday nights, I know he has. But this

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Speaker 2: brown back. They need to be healthy. The Steelers need

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Speaker 2: But they already lost Petrie, who was playing like an

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Speaker 2: they're playing for nothing, like they've won their division. They're

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Speaker 1: So you could see Steelers lose in the morning. I

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Speaker 1: he's a good player based on some of these touchdowns

431
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Speaker 1: down multiple scores in the second half against playoff teams,

432
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Speaker 1: give me a break. Now. On the flip side, Seattle,

433
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: that was a pretty devastating l for them on Sunday,

434
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Speaker 1: especially after Gino leads him right down. I'm like, this

435
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: is like the defining drive of Gino's career. The throw

436
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: he made in the back of the end zone looked

437
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,959
Speaker 1: like fucking farth. I mean that was like a one

438
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: hundred mileter hour fastball. Incredible catch. And then Darnold turns

439
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: into Josh Allen meets Mahomes and that's just a big

440
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: kick in the you know what for Seattle. Now they're

441
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: not technically yet, but to me, I don't even I

442
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: could never bet on the Bears, but I could also

443
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: see Seattle. It feels like maybe they just had a

444
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: juice after that. I mean, that was a kitchen sink

445
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: game for him, running fake punts, and I don't know,

446
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if they lay an egg here but

447
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: their egg it might not matter because you're playing the Bears.

448
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a tough game. I mean, you're generally

449
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: speaking in the past. In the final two weeks of

450
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: the reg season, these teams were playing for nothing and

451
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: are out of it. Playing teams that need to win

452
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: are a good bet because you're you're usually paying a

453
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: premium on the teams that need to win. Everyone knows

454
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: they need to win and.

455
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Speaker 1: Like Lions Niners, like what are the Niners playing for now?

456
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: Like that that that felt like it's over now nowetting

457
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: the Lions the Yeah.

458
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: No, historically those have been good bets. They're still professional.

459
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: People still show up. Yeah, I mean the Seahawks have

460
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: played the Vikings. If you look yards for play success

461
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: for eight yards pert tempt yards per rush they just

462
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: made They lost a turnover battle a lot of times

463
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: what football games come down to. And they killed themselves

464
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Speaker 2: with penalties. The biggest one and they had like ten penalties.

465
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Speaker 2: Think the biggest one was they were up four on

466
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Speaker 2: the Vikings and they get a sack, which pretty much

467
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Speaker 2: would have ended the game. It would have been like

468
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: third and twenty, but they drabbed Donald's face mass next

469
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: play forty yard touchdown. Devastating loss. But they were really

470
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: good in that game. Should have won. But they killed

471
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Speaker 2: themselves with their mistakes. They're like, yeah, did they get

472
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: up off the mat here? Their defense is trending in

473
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 2: the right direction. They made some personal changes in the secondary,

474
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Speaker 2: they got healthier, They made healthier on the defensive line,

475
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Speaker 2: they got healthier in the secondary, made some personnel changes

476
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: at linebacker McDonald has that team playing well. The one

477
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: exception was the Packers game, but the trend line for

478
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: that defense they played well last week. They get the

479
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: turnover led to a short field on the Vikings, and

480
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: the Vikings have a good offense, and then you know,

481
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Speaker 2: you get that penalty and give up forty yard touchdown

482
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Speaker 2: to Justin Jefson. You had two guys there. They just

483
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 2: whift on it.

484
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Speaker 1: It was it was an incredible throw too. I mean

485
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: that that.

486
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Speaker 2: Race brow crushed. It was an amazing throw. It's hard.

487
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: It's hard to bet the Bears. I bet some Bears

488
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: last week if plus seven it did not end well.

489
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: It's amazing that they're They're down every week. It's twenty

490
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: to nothing. It's like clockwork come out. I do think

491
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Speaker 2: they miss Eberflus.

492
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Speaker 1: On the they're worse. I mean they're they're solid with

493
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: the Jets, same thing, right, you move that guy, they

494
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: get dramatically worse.

495
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they missed Eberflus defensively, and then Graham is

496
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: in over his head trying to be the head coach

497
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. It's a mess. They can't stop the run.

498
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is a tough game, like situationally, price wise,

499
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: it is probably gonna get too expensive. You supposed to

500
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: play the Bears, but can you put your hard earned

501
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 2: money on the Bears right now? I'm not sure. It's

502
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: a tough game.

503
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Speaker 1: I think that was a game, even in a loss.

504
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: If I'm a Seahawks fan, I'm not saying McDonald's going

505
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: to be as good of a coach and have a

506
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: resume like Pete Obviously got to win Super Bowl, go

507
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: to another one, win a national championship like Pete's a legend,

508
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: but clearly the last couple of years his teams did

509
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: not look like that. So if I'm a Seattle fan,

510
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: you know what Ryan Grubb, who clearly you never know

511
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: what the college guy how it's going to transition. I

512
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: mean they when they're healthy, they look pretty freaking explosive.

513
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: And I think back to the Packer game, the gap

514
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: that was pretty I actually earned. I think Gino earned

515
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: everyone's respect. Like, hey, guys, we can nitpick me all

516
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: we want, but relative to who else we got in

517
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: this roster, I look like Joe Montana meets pret Farf.

518
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean Sam Howe. Also, it brings in the light

519
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: like their ow line sucks, so Gino's kind of mobility

520
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: and toughness standing behind there. And Gino has an underrated arm.

521
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: You know we talk about big arms. No one ever

522
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: mentions him. Sometimes you watch like Jesus, like listen as

523
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: a party guy forty nine er guy here. I mean

524
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Gino's throw one hundred pretty thrown like eighty eight, right,

525
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: I mean Geno's got a hose. So I I was

526
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: impressed with Seattle, and clearly they're not they win this game.

527
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: They're not dead by any means. Right, playing the Rams

528
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: week eighteen? How does that? Do you know how that

529
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: tiebreaker works? If they if they both win this weekend

530
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: and then they play week eighteen, is that winner get

531
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Speaker 1: in Rams?

532
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: So Rams Seahawks would.

533
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: Be Rams have nine wins. Uh so they they well, no.

534
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: Matter what if the Rams beat the Seahawks, because they

535
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: would sweep in.

536
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they'd have another win than them. So the

537
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: Rams control their own destiny.

538
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: Yes, if the Seahawks and Rams both win this week

539
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: and then Seattle wins in week eighteen, they'd be finished.

540
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: They'd be tied and head to head division and conference

541
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: record would come down to strength of victory. And it

542
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: looks like the Rams have a clear edge right now.

543
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: So the Seahawks need a lot of help, like they

544
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: need yeah, they it looks like the Rams. So it

545
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: looks like the what the Rams need. I mean, when

546
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: the Seahawks need then they need the They need the

547
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: Cardinals to win. They Needa Rams, Yeah, and they need

548
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: to win. Went out. He has a devastating loss. And

549
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: then the Jets not being able to capitalize on any

550
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: any trips in the Rams territory really hurt them. So

551
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: Rams definitely in the driver's seat as of now.

552
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean, at one point in time on Sunday, it

553
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: felt like it was going, like, God, the Jets probably

554
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: gonna win this game in Seattle's looking good. It was

555
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: about to go the other way.

556
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: That's nine to nine. They were driving. They were like

557
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: the twelve yard line and they decided to go for

558
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: it on fourth down. Didn't get it, and that kind

559
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: of flipped the game. And there was a drive earlier

560
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: and then they got down to the three, couldn't score.

561
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: They it's a field goal. They turned they went forward

562
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: on their own thirty and didn't get it. I mean,

563
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: there was a comedy of errors by the Jets, which

564
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: really helped the Rams out because they were flat. I

565
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: mean they often said nothing in that game. So yeah,

566
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: Rams are in the driver's seat. Cardinals eliminated losing to

567
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: the Panthers. So that division, which looked like it was

568
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: gonna come down to the last game, might not. Based

569
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: on how these results go, the Rams might be hitting

570
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: pretty okay.

571
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Speaker 1: Before I get you out of here, just looking at

572
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: some of these schedules that I know you love a good, random,

573
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: shitty bowl game that doesn't matter to most people, but

574
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: you always find value. Looks like we've got a pretty

575
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: good slate. Friday, Oklahoma Navy, Georgia Tech, Vandy Tech, Arkansas,

576
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Syracuse Wazoo, the Trojans at A and M. Does that

577
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: have blowout written all over it for your aggies.

578
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean Texas A and M us

579
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: he gets to play in Vegas. They played the other

580
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: quarterback you used to play. They played the earlier this season.

581
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: A and M's three best defensive linemen are opting out.

582
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: USC has a bunch of receivers opt out, but they

583
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: still have talent there. I think there's a chance they

584
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 2: could potentially keep it close. I got to see who

585
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: ends up playing. For sure, Syracuse should blow out Washington State.

586
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 2: That line was that I think opened at three. It's

587
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: up to sixteen and a half. Everyone on Syracuse is

588
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: playing they care. Brian Brown's all in. They said, we

589
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: don't opt out. Washington State is down his head coach,

590
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 2: offense coordinator, defensive coordinator, quarterback coach, running back coach. Eleven

591
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: starters have opted out. There might be more for playing

592
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback. That game might close twenty. I'm surprised

593
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: Washington State didn't forfeit the bowl.

594
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Where the defensive the defensive coordinator go with Dicker.

595
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: Their defensive coordinator.

596
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: Because those seeing quarterback went to Oklahoma, right, which feels

597
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: a little basketball packaged dally to you? Or am I

598
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: just being.

599
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory there? Yes, he was fired. Their defensive coordinator

600
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: was fired. So yeah, it's an absolute mess.

601
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: Is that quarterback? Is that quarterback good?

602
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: I think he's okay. I don't think he's gonna like

603
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: he wasn't playing great competition, and I don't think that's

604
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: like the ceiling that Oklahoma thinks.

605
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand, I don't know. I mean, Jackson Arnold,

606
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: he gets benched, he comes back, not totally his fault,

607
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: and you were saying this early on, they're missing a

608
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: million wide receivers. I mean, you could have put Baker

609
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: or Kyler. There would have been a struggle with who

610
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: was out there. Then he goes to Auburn, which I

611
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: read for like two to three million dollars, which seems

612
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: a little crazy to me. But then they go with

613
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: this quarterback and this offensive coordinator who I text a

614
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: couple of scouting buddies. They are like, yeah, he's really tough,

615
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't exactly say he's you know, what they've

616
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: been used to in their heyday. So it just Oklahoma

617
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: feels a little lost right now. And maybe it's hard

618
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: with the with the nil situation, and maybe they just

619
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: felt comfortable getting this package deal. But I mean, you're

620
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: seeing these opt outs. It's hard to keep track of.

621
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean, every day you look up, there's another guy,

622
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: another guy, another guy. A lot of it's declaring for

623
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: the draft or transfer portal. But it changes these teams dramatically.

624
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: Like you said, Washington State, who I think you tweeted out.

625
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: No team finished worse, and it might have simply been

626
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: like did everyone kind of see the writing on the wall,

627
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: like I'm out, I'm out? The coaches out. Maybe they

628
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: all kind of internally quit and they were just looking

629
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 1: forward because they they they were pretty good, like they were,

630
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: they've been good the last couple of years. So I

631
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: wonder if mentally everyone checked out and they just kind

632
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: of went through the motions. Which is it fair to

633
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: say that probably is what happened, because I remember your tweet,

634
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: like you look at like, how the fuck did they

635
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: lose his enormous favorites three times in a row? Well,

636
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: now looking back, it kind of makes sense, right, which

637
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: I wish we would have known. We would have hammered

638
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: the big undroducts. You could have got some of them,

639
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: probably like three or four to one.

640
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, they were all double digit dogs. They lost ball,

641
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: so like writing was on the wall and then all

642
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: everyone has left that could get augillion Syracuse. Some of

643
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: the kids that are on the Bowl game last year,

644
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: they didn't have a coach. They lost five to nothing.

645
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: These teams a without a coach that when they have

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Speaker 2: all the players opt out, they usually get blown out.

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma Navy, that line's gone from seven to three. Bunch

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Speaker 2: of Oklahoma opt outs. I always take the Service Academy

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Speaker 2: in the Bowl. I just especially when they're a dog

650
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Speaker 2: seventy percent against the spread. Excuse me since nineteen seventy

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Speaker 2: if you just want to go back past ten years,

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Speaker 2: fifteen and three straight up, fifteen and three against the spread,

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Speaker 2: seven and two straight up against Power four teams. Why

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Speaker 2: they always show up? Motivations never questioned. A motivation is

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00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: huge for these meaningless bowl games. And Oklahoma. Do they

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Speaker 2: really want to spend their holiday break preparing for the

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Speaker 2: triple option? Probably not. Is their staff really focused on

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00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: this game? Probably not. They're probably focused on the portal

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00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: recruiting next year, so the preparation advantage and Navy they

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00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: don't have to do well any of that stuff. Texas

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Speaker 2: Tech Arkansas is an interesting one. Arkansas a ton of

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Speaker 2: opt outs. All their receive in the quarterback transfer now

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Speaker 2: quarterback to Taylor Green. He's staying, but all the receivers

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Speaker 2: opted out there, tight end, multiple offensive linemen, they're running back.

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Speaker 2: Their best defensive players are opting out. Texas Tax quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: out though due to surgery. They're going with the backup quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I still like Texas Tech one. They're like a one

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Speaker 2: and a half point dog. I think that they're but

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Speaker 2: tex Tech also doesn't have any coordinators. They replaced their coordinators.

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Speaker 2: Really interesting game, but Arkansas's offense is a mess right now.

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Speaker 2: And Texas Tech their backup. He played some this year.

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Speaker 2: I think he's actually a better fit for the offense.

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Speaker 2: He has some mobility. I think TODs Brooks is an

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Speaker 2: NFL running back, is going to play. He's listed on

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Speaker 2: the depth chart. If he does. Texas tax roster is

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Speaker 2: in much better shape. So I like the Red Raiders

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Speaker 2: at Georgia Tech. Van He's two teams I wanted to

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Speaker 2: bet in Bowl season with their quarterbacks Haines King, Diego Pavia.

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Speaker 2: Pavi will be healthier catching three. I think he just

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Speaker 2: take the points there. But that's a tricky one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Friday some interesting Bowl games, although that Syracuse one could

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Speaker 2: get ugly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. Okay, last one though, the Fighting

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Speaker 1: Belichicks at Fenway Park. Now Freddy Kitchen's legendary Freddy Kitchens

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Speaker 1: form Browns coach coaching the game, but not really coaching

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Speaker 1: for a job, because Belichick's already said he's on the staff.

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Speaker 1: So is this a kitchen sink game for Freddy Kitchens?

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Speaker 1: Does he even have a kitchen sink game in him?

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Speaker 1: It's outdoor southern team playing Yukon. Who I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: I haven't watch a snap of Yukon football since Jim

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Speaker 1: Moore has been there, but I would imagine Jim Moore

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Speaker 1: is gonna take this shit seriously. North Carolina favored by three.

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Speaker 1: You would imagine Belichick will be kind of usually that

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Speaker 1: interim guy that's or not the interim guy, but the

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Speaker 1: new coach who lets another guy coach is usually there.

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Speaker 1: So I bet a lot of these guys on the

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Speaker 1: team you would think would want to stay and play

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Speaker 1: for him. So does North Carolina, who was atrocious this

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Speaker 1: year on defense. Right, So how does this play out?

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Speaker 1: Is this the stay away?

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Speaker 2: Probably if I was gonna play it, I would play

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Speaker 2: Yukon just no coach. I don't know invob Belchi's when

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Speaker 2: he's probably more about the roster construction Kon.

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Speaker 1: He might he might not go. He might not go

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Speaker 1: because they're just doing portal and recruit. He might not.

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Speaker 2: They have so much other stuff to do. North Krona

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Speaker 2: does have some key opt outs that The biggest one

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Speaker 2: is Hampton is one of the best facts in the country.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna play in the NFL. He opted out, one

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Speaker 2: of the best receivers, a couple offensive linemen, so North

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Speaker 2: Carolina and their best defensive end opted out as well

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Speaker 2: for the NFL Draft, so they're not at full strength.

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Speaker 2: Yukon's probably all in here means a lot to their program. Again,

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Speaker 2: the coachless team, it's Yukon. I mean, look, you're paying

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Speaker 2: for you're paying the premium here because the line has

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Speaker 2: come down. But it would be Yukon or nothing. But

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Speaker 2: we weird game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Stuckey, I'll get you out of here. Have a

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Speaker 1: good Christmas, have a good Honika, whatever you may celebrate,

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Speaker 1: enjoy just football.

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Speaker 2: That's ye.

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Speaker 1: Same and the NFL on Wednesday. So I will talk

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Speaker 1: to you next week as we get four. Looking forward

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Speaker 1: to some more college football playoff games as well as

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Speaker 1: the final week of the NFL, which might not be great,

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Speaker 1: but so we can focus on college for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I hopefully we get some more competitive college wall playoff games,

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Speaker 2: which we should get. Georgia Notre Dame at least and

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Speaker 2: Ohio State Oregon, and that's I got to dive into

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Speaker 2: the other two matchups and see if Boise State can

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Speaker 2: make it a game, if Arizona State can make it

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Speaker 2: a game. They will have two really good backs to

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Speaker 2: lean on in Ashton Genty and Cam Scatbo. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: Cam excited to talk about that. But Merry Christmas, Happy

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Speaker 2: holidays to everyone, early, happy New Year, and now I'll

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Speaker 2: see you next week.

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Speaker 1: We just need one of those two guys to go

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Speaker 1: like Steph Curry Davidson against Kansas, you know, just just

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Speaker 1: to rush for like two fifty and have a legendary,

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Speaker 1: a historic moment in the college world.

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Speaker 2: That's the good thing with the teams that benefited the

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Speaker 2: most from the bye, which wasn't Oregon beause they got

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Speaker 2: to play Ohio State Georgia because they have to go

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Speaker 2: to the backup. So one, you don't have to put

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Speaker 2: him on tape for a game, and you can try

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Speaker 2: to come up with some things and you know, assimilate

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Speaker 2: him into the offense. And Notre Dame doesn't really know

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Speaker 2: what to expect, so they benefited from having that buy.

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Speaker 2: And then Arizona State and Bois State. Obviously they probably

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Speaker 2: would have lost in the first round. I shouldn't say probably,

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Speaker 2: but they would have been underdogs, so them not having

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Speaker 2: to play an extra game. But you get gent and Scott,

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Speaker 2: but who got fed the ball all year. You got

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Speaker 2: some time to rest up, like they're gonna come out

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Speaker 2: with everything. They got rejuvenated, fresh legs, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: both teams are gonna lean on them, so I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be surprised the point or both as a really big day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Stuck, you have a great week.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you soon YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Cheers the volume