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Speaker 2: Welcome to an army of normal folks. I'm Bill Courtney.

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Speaker 2: Today is a cool day. We started the morning getting

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Speaker 2: So your story is unique to our podcast and beyond inspirational.

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Speaker 2: And the reason it's unique is we're starting to do

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, home is home, sweet home. You know. No

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Speaker 4: I met a woman. I got Mary.

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Speaker 1: You know, I want you to tell the whole story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to tell this old story. You know.

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Speaker 4: he said, how can I help you? You know, I

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Speaker 4: Bro so well. She looked at me. She said, are

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I just left. I said bye bye. You know,

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Speaker 4: The first page I put a J like short Tame,

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Speaker 4: I said what you said, say, well, I have to pray.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to pray. Man, that's a lady take eight years,

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Speaker 2: Eight years.

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Speaker 4: Auntie is my friend. And every Saturday, every saturdayday, she

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Speaker 2: I think had you not proposed the minute you saw

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Speaker 4: She became my wife. She said, okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: So Andre, I think we can establish you grew up

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Speaker 4: Well after we Okay, I just told you that when

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Speaker 4: Listen to this, and I'm pretty sure that my wife

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Speaker 2: So you're dating their sister. That's why they hate him.

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Speaker 4: Every time when I come. When I go over there

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Speaker 4: while I was coming on Saturday, my girlfriend just rung

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00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 4: and the gate. They told me, please please don't go today,

435
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 4: don't come today, you come another day. But she don't

436
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 4: want to tell me what's going on in the house.

437
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: I said, why, you know, he said, please, don't, don't

438
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 4: come another day. I said, yeah, but I have to

439
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: come and say hello to you, mama. He said, no,

440
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 4: you know, but I came anyway. Why I would sit down?

441
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: You know, I heard a lot of discussion in the

442
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 4: audio room. You know, I hate it. Mostly there's two

443
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: rooms in the house, not more than two rooms. So

444
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 4: I heard that my girlfriend was crying because her brother

445
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: has a big stick and his hand and come out

446
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 4: and come out and you know, in the living room

447
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 4: to hit me. And when you look at me, and

448
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 4: he said andre I said, Bob, how are women in

449
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: the orphanage together?

450
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: And he could no longer be average because you were friends.

451
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, andre I said, Bob, you know the

452
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 4: you know the good thing is And he told her mother,

453
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 4: you remember when you come to see me at the orphanage,

454
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: because I used to look road to the orphanage. And

455
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 4: that person that you sleep that was his grandpa, Mama.

456
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: And the bread that you you said, that guy always

457
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: give you that his father. I said, thank god, yeah,

458
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 4: so that that was in the package.

459
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I would say that, you know, you're kind of

460
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: you're kind of in at that point. Yeah, the family

461
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: loves you.

462
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 4: Yes, h m hmm.

463
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. John. There's this crazy story of

464
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: this guy from Haiti named Andre, who we've just learned

465
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: all about, and your introduction to him was nothing more

466
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: than really a miracle too. And for our listeners, the

467
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: whole reason I'm sitting here with Andrea and John is

468
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: because John heard an episode about Luke Nicholson from Sleeping

469
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: Heavenly Peace, and I beg all of you to send

470
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: me emails and tell me about stories. And John took

471
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: me up on it, and you sent me a very

472
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: long email that after reading it, my eyes had teared up,

473
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: and I think I reached out to you immediately and

474
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: said I got to meet this guy. But in the letter,

475
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 2: you open with how you met him. Yeah, tell us

476
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: a story of how you came to know Andre.

477
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Andre was one of those people who

478
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: wanted to come to the United States. And Andrea expressed

479
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: to me that in Haiti, everybody thinks of the United States.

480
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: There's just money lying along the side of the road,

481
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: and you could just scoop up the money if you

482
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: need something and get whatever it is.

483
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 4: That you need every trees of money growing.

484
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that you've been here, you know that's not

485
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: the case.

486
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm telling you Andre.

487
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: Something that he hasn't said is that he and his wife,

488
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: Angie actually raised seven children before they started their own family,

489
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: and there were seven orphans and this was the genesis

490
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: of the Place of Hope actually, but he came to

491
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: the United States so he could pick some of that

492
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: money off the trees and help feed the kids.

493
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: With these seven children, with.

494
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: The seven children and his wife.

495
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 4: Excuse me, there's seven children that I I raised that

496
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: was in that was in hate, Okay. When I came

497
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: to the United States, there was twenty yeah, twenty.

498
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: Okay, twenty in a billy and I'll tell you about

499
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: that in a second. But he comes to the United

500
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: States and he, uh, he was trying to raise money.

501
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: He got a phone call from someone who was watching

502
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: the kids, yeah, the house mother, and she she told

503
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: him the kids have only had coconut to eat for

504
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: the last three weeks. They have diarrhea, they're on the

505
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: verge of dehydration. We need to do something. So Andre

506
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: borrowed a car and started driving up the main road

507
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: in Naples. He went to one church there and he

508
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: pushes the doorbell if it was locked. There was a lockout,

509
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: and they said, how can we help you? He said, well,

510
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: I need to talk to somebody. I needed to to

511
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: the pastor.

512
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: Now I'm not tying it only one bug of fries

513
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 4: to send to Haiti and the kids.

514
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: And they said the pastor's not here. And then finally

515
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: somebody came out and said, you're gonna have to leave

516
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: the property. Who are going to call the police? Well,

517
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: Andrea's here.

518
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: And the whole time John Andre simply asking He's trying

519
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: to tell the story of these kids at this hortage

520
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: in Haiti that need food, yes, yep, that are sick

521
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: because all they've eaten for three weeks or cot.

522
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: And all he wants really is a bag of rice,

523
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: so he could send back to Haiti a bag of rice.

524
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: That's all he wants. So after that experience, he decides, well,

525
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: I still have to find something. So he goes up

526
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: to the next church, which we were the next church.

527
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: I was pastoring of that church at that time in Naples,

528
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: and we remember that day a little bit differently since

529
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: you asked me, I'm going to tell you my story.

530
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: But I knocked on the door. I heard this knocking

531
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: at the door. It's just a light tapping, and I

532
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: look out and go out in the hall and there's

533
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: glass doors at the end of the hall and I

534
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: look down the hall and here's a man, a Haitian

535
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: man literally cap in hand and standing outside the door.

536
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 1: And I opened up the door and I say, how

537
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: can I help you? And he said, I'd like to

538
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: ask you about help for my orphanage. I said, well,

539
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: when you come in my office and let's sit down chat.

540
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: So we went and we sat down and Andre, since

541
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: the last church they threatened to call the police on him,

542
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: he left the car running.

543
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: In case the police came.

544
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: And when he sat down, when he sat down on

545
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: the chair in my office, he didn't sit all the

546
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 1: way back. He sat on the edge. So I make

547
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: it a quick but I said, well, Andre, take my hands.

548
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: Let's let's pray. And so we sat and we prayed together,

549
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: and then after our amen, I said, how can I

550
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: help you? And then he told me about how he

551
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: has twenty orphans in Haiti and they are on the

552
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: virgin dehydration and they need some help.

553
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: Clearly on a shoe string budget, if any budget at.

554
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: All, absolutely, and what he asked for. He said, we're

555
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: trying to raise eighteen dollars a month for each of

556
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: those kids. I said, well, half a bucks a month,

557
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: bop thousand a year. Well, and he knew I couldn't

558
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: cover the whole thing, but there was enough there for

559
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: me to go on, and so I said, well, how

560
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: can I get back in touch with you tomorrow? I

561
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: want to go and talk to my wife. So I

562
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: went home that night, talked to my wife, and then

563
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: called him the next day. My wife and I said, well, well,

564
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: we can take care of to those orphans, but we'll

565
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: pay the whole year now so that they could spread

566
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: it among all the kids that way. I had a

567
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: feeling that's what they're going to do anyway, so we

568
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: said okay, So we sent them I think it was

569
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty bucks or something like that, and

570
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: that began our relationship. He came to our church. I

571
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: introduced them to some people, Some people put money in

572
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: his hand, and eventually our missions committee picked it up,

573
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: and Andre had a growing concern. At that point it

574
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: was a there was some viability to it. In the meantime,

575
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: I had a small group that I was working with

576
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: and I told them about this this guy and this orphanage,

577
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: and they said, well, we ought to go over and

578
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: take a look at it. So two of them went over.

579
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: They flew over, I guess three because Mike went. Mike

580
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: Schaeffer went too. So three of them went across to

581
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: Haiti and looked at the place. Well, the place that

582
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: they had at the time it was the orphanage was

583
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: one room. It was just a singular kids one table,

584
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: one chair, one spoon, no plumbing, no electricity. It was

585
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: just a shelter and he had twenty kids. He was

586
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: operating out of it. And they looked at that and

587
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: they said, well, gosh, I don't know how this is

588
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: ever going to work out. Well, they all turned out

589
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: to be very good supporters of the project, and later

590
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: on we would Andre.

591
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: We began to dream.

592
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: Together, what's this, what's your vision of this, of this,

593
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: of this orphanae Andre and he would tell me what

594
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: the vision was, and we begin to sketch little drawings

595
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: out on a piece of paper. One of the things

596
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: he said that'll come into play a little bit later

597
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: on is I said, listen, because he wants to put

598
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: a church in. That was a principal criteria for him

599
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: was to put a church on the property. And I said, well, Andre,

600
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: if you put a church on that property, one day,

601
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to come down, I'm going to preach in

602
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: that church, and you're going to translate for me. And

603
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: Andre said, okay. What we didn't find out until I

604
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe it was ten or twelve years later.

605
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: I was sitting on the platform of that church and

606
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: he looked at me and he said, you know, this

607
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: is an answer to prayer. And I said, how you talking?

608
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

609
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: And he said, well, ten or twelve or whatever period

610
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: time it was before we had sat down, we talked

611
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: and said that you're going to preach it. I was

612
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: going to translate today's day. Well, that was right before

613
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: I went up to the pulpit, and by that time

614
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: I had tears streaming on my cheeks from the memory

615
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: of us of doing that. But we dreamed together about

616
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: what that campus might look like someday.

617
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: How many years ago was this?

618
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: This must have been in about four four so plus.

619
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: Eighteen nineteen years ago, so eighteen nineteen years ago. There

620
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: was a quote Orphanage which was a one bedroom right,

621
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: no electricity, no water running place where twenty kids were

622
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: surviving for three weeks on coconut yep, and that was

623
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: better than what they'd come from.

624
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: Yes, And I don't think any of us could really

625
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: understand poverty until you've been down there and seen it.

626
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: We have poverty here, but their poverty is you haven't

627
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: eaten for a week. Andre told me a story about

628
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: how he saw a man eating mud because he needed

629
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: something in his stomach. The poverty down there is, it's stunning.

630
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: And Andre didn't he let out some of the parts

631
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: of his story too, but he came from serious poverty.

632
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: And so now when he hears somebody in America say, well,

633
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm starving to dad, well.

634
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 4: You're just like my daughter. You know. She lived here

635
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: and sometimes said Dad, I'm hungry. You know, I'm starving

636
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: and I'm stopping. You know what's stopping, man, I'm hungry, Dad.

637
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 4: And then the free there's milk, it's peanut butter. You know,

638
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 4: there's bread, and you told me starving, you know. And

639
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: then sometime when I was a little kid, I go

640
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: to school. We've won orange for all day, it'll clock.

641
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: You have to be at school until four o'clock come home.

642
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: Sometimes when you come home there's nothing to put in

643
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: your stomach. You know, you go to bed stomach empty,

644
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 4: and you told me that you're starving. You know what

645
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: is what is starving mean?

646
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: So I think for a perspective, it's really important to

647
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: understand that money doesn't grow on trees in the United States.

648
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: But when a kid who we would say in the

649
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: US is in poverty, gets to go to school and

650
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: get free breakfast and free lunch, who almost assuredly can

651
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: find shelter and clothing and in education and transportation and

652
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: most likely have the basic sustenance provided for that. While

653
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 2: the American dream is not that, and I'm not discounting

654
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: that level of American poverty to a Haitian kid that's rich. Yeah, absolutely,

655
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: And we need to keep in perspective what real poverty

656
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: looks like in parts of our world. And Haiti is

657
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty miles off the Texas coast in

658
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: our hemisphere, just below Cuba. Just below Cuba. We're not

659
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: talking about some far away mythical place. We're talking about

660
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: people who share the Gulf of Mexico with.

661
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: Two hour plane ride. That's my two hour plane ride

662
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: from Miami.

663
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: Two hour plane ride from Miami, and we're talking about

664
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: children that literally are starving to death. And so a

665
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: guy like Andre steps up and says, Okay, I'm going

666
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: to take care of twenty of these kids in a

667
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: one room hut.

668
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: And that's as Andre said, and I think that that's appropriate.

669
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: Is that life is a package. And the fact that

670
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: Andre came from that poverty is what gave him the

671
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: vision and the mission to help kids who are in poverty.

672
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 2: But not only the poverty, the the orphanage yourself agreed

673
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: to love as he mentioned before. Yeah, it was interesting

674
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: when you said, Andre that you got mules and you

675
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: had a roof of your head, but you didn't have

676
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: the love.

677
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: It was in there. It was in there. That's the reason.

678
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 4: That's the reason I when we have the team from Memphis,

679
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 4: you know, they come to do hard work for us,

680
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 4: but there are always two or three holy kids.

681
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: Well, and see that's interesting because I'm from Memphis. Everybody

682
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: knows I'm a Memphis guy. But John, when you emailed me,

683
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: you emailed me from Naples in Florida, and you're talking

684
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: about a pastor I've never heard of from Haiti. Yeah,

685
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: and I had no idea that there was a Memphis connection.

686
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't either.

687
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: I learned it recently. Well, there wasn't at that time,

688
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: was there.

689
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: Well, the Memphis connection came really after the current campus

690
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: had gotten mostly finished. Our church and churches in the

691
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: Naples area helped on the front end, putting together what

692
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: I'd called us the hardware and the Hope Pressprian Church

693
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: here in Memphis created really the software, which is the hardware. Okay,

694
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: the hardware is the is the physical plant when we

695
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: started building that campus. First of all, the story in Andre,

696
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: I should tell you the story on how he purchased

697
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: the property, so that because they were meeting in that

698
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: one room home, they went they moved to a second

699
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: a second home that had two rooms in it. So

700
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: it was really uptown, doubled inside inside, no plumbing, but

701
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: still had electricity that was pretty exacit. I had a

702
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: TV but it didn't work. So so Andre had found

703
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: a piece of property that he really liked, and I

704
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 1: thought that chance, and so Andrew went to work.

705
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: And how you found the property, this is a good question, Okay.

706
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 4: When I was rocking to see my wife, to see

707
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: my girlfriends. I always see the property. Okay, so time,

708
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 4: I said, man, if I have that property, I will

709
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: boy it and build an orphanage, shot school and clinic.

710
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 4: You know.

711
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: That was my dream.

712
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 4: That's my dream. But I never go actually to the

713
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 4: property because he is probably like fifty feet above the ocean.

714
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're walking six hours anyway to take hill.

715
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you cannot go to somebody property like that.

716
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: They're going to question a you. Okay, But thank god.

717
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 4: One day I saw a lot of women and kid

718
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: would shot and you know, they have some book kit,

719
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: you know, and they was so happy and running in

720
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 4: the mountain. And I look on the ocean. The ocean

721
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 4: is right there, and I saw a lot of men

722
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 4: on the boat, you know, in the ocean. And I

723
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 4: told that little boy, what's going on over there? You

724
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: know it don't even take time to talk to me.

725
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 4: I really want to go up that matter. So I

726
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: get that opportunity to go to go there too. And

727
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: I was looking the property and said, man, that's going

728
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 4: to be a charging off and age things like that.

729
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 4: But I asked him what's going on? What's going on

730
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 4: in the ocean. You know, in the United States, I

731
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 4: live in Florida. Okay, and then when somebody saw a shock,

732
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: there's a shock the room for the life. But he

733
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 4: hated the shock won for his life.

734
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: That food right there.

735
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: So that's why the Roman was ready, you know, to

736
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 4: get some good meat from that shock. You know.

737
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 2: So's they garried. That's a big shot.

738
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 4: The shot wrong for his life, you know. But here

739
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 4: we want for the show. I'm not in Haiti.

740
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: Well, Andre went after that property, and uh, Andre, tell

741
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: him about how you you were working. Andrea was working.

742
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: I was working in a white house. Okay, I got

743
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: a job, you know, and I was working in a

744
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 4: way house Storge, yeah, said storage space. So people dumps

745
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 4: a lot of good stuff, you know, that's the things.

746
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 4: When I go to the dumpster, I said, man, that's

747
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 4: TV or Ray jul and stuff like that, clothes, things

748
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: I never see before. And they walk. So I went

749
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 4: to my boss. I told my boss, can I use us?

750
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: He said, oh yeah, that's trash, trash for you, not

751
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 4: for me. So and then I collecting those those stuff,

752
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 4: and then, uh, I collect so much I don't have

753
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: a press to put it. So I asked him if

754
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 4: he can give in like a five by five, you

755
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 4: know to put those things. So he talked to the owner.

756
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: The owner said, oh that's fine. So they give me

757
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 4: five by five. So I put all the thing stuff

758
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 4: in there. But there's some Haitian who came on the board.

759
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: They can't read, they cannot write, okay, So I want

760
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 4: to help them, so I went to the community center

761
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: to teach them how to read, you know, and things

762
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: like that. So they give me one hour. So I

763
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 4: told him that I had, you know, the tieving things

764
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: for sale. You know, it's not cost too much. So

765
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 4: they came to the Whitehouse, you know, starts selling them

766
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: like for a dollar, two dollars you know, and fifty

767
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: cents things like that. And then I got I got

768
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: the money, and when I was to go home, I said,

769
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: I rather leave the money right there, because you know,

770
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: there's an ice cream chalk come every afternoon, and I

771
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: have kids, so they will actually for money. So that's money.

772
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 4: I was raised for that land. Because my brother in

773
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 4: law called me about their land. I said, I'm going

774
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 4: to buy it. Everything that I sell, I put it

775
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 4: in the envelope and I asked my boss to live

776
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: it in his office. And my boss a little is

777
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 4: the chairman of the board. So what I did After

778
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 4: a few months, so I asked him, you know, let's

779
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: open it together. That's money, okay. So we opened it together.

780
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 4: Four thousand dollars wow, from the trash. So we went

781
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 4: to a wire transfer and and we wire the money.

782
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 4: So we make our first deposit and most of that

783
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 4: money coming from that dumpster. And then we get a

784
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 4: few from you know, passe giant friends, you know, stuff

785
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: like that. And then after I paid the lan, I

786
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 4: got the date and everything. You know, I'm good. So

787
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 4: I'm ready to start doing the building. So one day

788
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 4: I went to the dumpster, you know, thinking that I'm

789
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 4: going to get you know, some good stuff. You know

790
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 4: what I find? Did that?

791
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: You got a good price for that too.

792
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: It was a dead gut. So that's what I say. Okay,

793
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 4: that's you know, that's a awfu okay.

794
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: So he was able to purchase this piece of property

795
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: seven acres on the Caribbean Sea fronting the Caribbean Sea.

796
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: From my watch, for seventy dollars.

797
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: Seventy thousand dollars. But he raised that money from dumpster diving.

798
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: Seventy thousand dollars. Yes, I think this is important for

799
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: your Army to know, Bill, that that persistence, when you

800
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: have a vision, when you have a mission, and you

801
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: have that persistence, that'll pay off.

802
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: And this is a man who walked six hours every

803
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: Saturday for eight years to get a wife. That's right.

804
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: Dumpster diving on balance is just not that big a deal.

805
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll be right back.

806
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: We sent an engineer, civil engineer down. They surveyed the

807
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: property and they drew out a sketch of you know,

808
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 1: where this would go, where this would go. So we had,

809
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: according to Andre's vision, we put a dormitory on, a

810
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: vocational school, a clinic, and a church building and we

811
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: put that all on the property.

812
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: And so you met him eighteen to nineteen years. I'm

813
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: trying to get a timeline. Yeah, and how long after

814
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 2: that was able to buy the property? A couple three

815
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 2: years later? Is that right?

816
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: I would I would stretch it out a little bit more.

817
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: I'd probably say four or five years.

818
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so around two thy ten plus remind us, Yeah,

819
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 2: and then he said, got to have a church, yeah,

820
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: got to have buildings for the kids. How long from

821
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: twenty ten did it take to get to a campus?

822
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: Here's where the rest the hardware comes in. So about

823
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: that time, a gentleman in Naples, his name is Dick

824
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: Stone Ceipher. We call him Stony. Stony was a direct

825
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: report to Jack Welch. He ran ge appliance. He went

826
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: to our church. He was a friend, and he said,

827
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: we need to make this work. So Stoney got involved.

828
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: When Stoney got involved, things began to happen, and we

829
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: built up a board. I say we, I shouldn't say we,

830
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: because truth of the matter is I was a pastor

831
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: of the church. Andre did most of this by himself.

832
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: I had some connections. What I do is I match

833
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: people with resources, and that's what I do. I developed people,

834
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: I develop relationships, and I put the two of them together.

835
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: And then they built this property. And I bet you

836
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: that property. They probably have had about a million and

837
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: a quarter plus or minus into that property to build

838
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: that campus. So now that there is a dormitory that'll

839
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: accommodate up to one hundred kids, indoor plumbing, electricity, wired

840
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: for electricity.

841
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: Indoor plumbing and electricity doesn't sound like that big a deal,

842
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: except the vast majority of people in Haiti don't have

843
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: indoor plumbing exactly exactly. It's the taj Hall exactly, and.

844
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: A vocational school that has a decked out carpentry shop.

845
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: There's a welding shop. There is a small engine mechanic

846
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: so they could fix motorbikes. And for the ladies, he

847
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: has a sewing class with and they have how many

848
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: you suppose twenty sewing machines? Would you say about twenty

849
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: sewing machines in there to teach them a trade? What

850
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: would you say that, Andre? What would you say? The

851
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: unemployment rate is in Haiti?

852
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: Well, on primate, I would say probably, you know, like, oh,

853
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 4: sixty percent.

854
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: How much? Yeah, sixty you say six.

855
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: I would have said seventy, but he says sixty, and

856
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: so we'd say so.

857
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: Now telling me three out of ten people for out

858
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: of ten people have a job.

859
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, some people will stand by the side of

860
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: the road and try to sell mangos. I wouldn't call

861
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: that a job. But if you're talking about a job

862
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: career type of job, I'd say that sixty percent is

863
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 1: probably conservative as far as ou employment goes.

864
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: So all right, So once this campus is the land's ball,

865
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: the campus is built to twenty fifteen, yes, I AB

866
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: would how about to say, okay, so and about two

867
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: thousand you have a dream. You go dumpster diving, you

868
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: save up money, you buy the land. Pastor John puts

869
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 2: you in touch with some people that help you build

870
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: it out, and in twenty fifteen you have a seven

871
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: acre orphanage with dorms, a church, a clinic for health

872
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 2: and medicine. You have places to teach applied skills so

873
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: that people can leave the orphanage and become gainfully employed

874
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: as masons or welders, or mechanics or seamstresses, which is

875
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: a big deal when sixty percent of the population is unemployed.

876
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: And you go from these twenty kids in a one

877
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 2: room house to how many kids in this orphanage.

878
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 4: Now where we have fifty forty five kids, we used

879
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 4: to have like sixty kids. You know, they're growing up

880
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: and some of them now going to university.

881
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: You know that some of them are going to college.

882
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, as one of them is going to

883
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 4: graduate next month, you know in American University, one of

884
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 4: the bigger university in La Caries.

885
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: Are you bringing in new children?

886
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: You know children the time, yes, yes, but right now

887
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 4: because of the city constancies, you know, because of the

888
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 4: what the money was, you know, because yeah, it's very expensive. Well,

889
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 4: and the board.

890
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: Stoney he didn't really age out technically, but he got

891
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: to the place where it was too much, and so

892
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: he left the board and the board kind of fell

893
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: apart at that point. So they're in the reconstituting the board.

894
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: They're going into the next iteration of the board for

895
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: Place of Hope. Now, this is why the Hope Church

896
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: in Memphis has been such a tremendous help to them,

897
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: because now that the hardware is up, and Stony largely

898
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: responsible for that. Now that the hardware is up, then

899
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: the software comes in behind it. And when I say software,

900
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's these are the people who care for

901
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: the children, who hold the children, who really take an

902
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: interest in the kids. I'm not saying that that didn't

903
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: happen under Stoney's direction, but this group has been extraordinary

904
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 1: in helping out that regard.

905
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: Which is the weird Memphis connection that I never knew existed.

906
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: And here's Hope Church in Memphis.

907
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 4: And then to tell you that that was the best team.

908
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 4: When they're going to Haiti, sixteen of them they walk,

909
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 4: you know, they haven't been in Haiti for four years now,

910
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 4: five years. And then I'm telling you because of them,

911
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 4: the way they teach the kids, you know, to do now.

912
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 4: The kids do their own dress uniform because there was

913
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 4: a lady and that team who want to teach them

914
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 4: how to make dress. So they make their dress and

915
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 4: the uniform and even the bed. They make their own

916
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 4: bed now because they teach the kid every time when

917
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 4: they go over there. They're not work by himself. They

918
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 4: took the kids with them, you know, to watch them

919
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 4: what's going on, which is.

920
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 2: An interesting segue. Yes, so, over the course of twenty years,

921
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: gone from a one bedroom house with twenty kids eating

922
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: so much a coconut that they're almost dead, and you're

923
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: looking for a bag of rice, and you end up

924
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 2: meeting the gentleman on your left who provides so much

925
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 2: more in terms of mentoring and friendship and introductions, where

926
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: your search for a bag of rice for twenty kids

927
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 2: is now turned into a second seven acre place caring

928
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: for forty five to sixty kids and what seems like

929
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 2: to be by Haitian standards, maybe the finest place a

930
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: kid could ever end up. And it's called a place

931
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 2: for Hope orphanage, and the kids make their own outfits,

932
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 2: They make their own uniforms, right, they make their own beds.

933
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: They because of the shop that's there, because of the

934
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 2: hardware that's been installed, and because of the software. Of

935
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 2: the love and the compassion and the teaching and the mentoring,

936
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: all of this is happening. And then John's listening to

937
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 2: a podcast one day.

938
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard Brian kill Me interview you. And then

939
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: after I listened to that podcast, I said to my wife,

940
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: you know what, why don't we just watch that Undefeated documentary.

941
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: So we watched that Undefeated documentary, very impressed with what

942
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: you did there, fantastic and then you mentioned something about

943
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: an army of normal folks on that and I said, well,

944
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to just start listening to that, and I

945
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: started listening to your podcast. I think every pastor should

946
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: listen to your podcast because every pastor needs to find ways,

947
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: creative ways to get into the communities. And what I've

948
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: heard from your podcast is a myriad, well not quite

949
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: a myriad, but we're getting there, a myriad of ways

950
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: of reaching into the community by an army of normal folks,

951
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: which is what every church is. So I listened to

952
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: that podcast, and every church should be John, Yeah, what

953
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: every church should be yeah, okay, well, and every pastor shit,

954
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: and this is the thing you have so many You've

955
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: interviewed so many people with the creative ways of reaching

956
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: into it. And I looked for creative ways to get

957
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: into the community. And so when I was listening to this,

958
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: I heard this, and I heard this one about making beds,

959
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, you know, I just wonder

960
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: what Pastor Andre would think of this particular podcast. So

961
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: I bookmarked it and then I called As soon as

962
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: I finished, I called him, um and said, Andre, what

963
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: are you doing now? Well, nothing, and I said, come

964
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: on over here. I want to play this podcast.

965
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: Right.

966
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: So we sat there and we listened to that podcast,

967
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: and at the end of that podcast, Andre got a

968
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: little emotional and I said, well, what's going on And

969
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: he said, John, that's my story. That is my story.

970
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: I didn't have a bed when I was growing up.

971
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: And then when I came to the United States there

972
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: were seven children and me and Angie and we had

973
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: one bed, one bed for all of those, all those people.

974
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: And he said, that's my story. And so at that

975
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: time we decided that maybe maybe we're going to shift

976
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: our paradigm slightly. So that we're going to self consciously

977
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: now the place of Felpe has always tried to get

978
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: into their community, but never really self consciously, always accidentally,

979
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: but now maybe self consciously, we need to be reaching

980
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: into the community and instead of being purely a resource consumer,

981
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: we need to be resource distributors.

982
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: We'll be right back to remind our listeners. Some have

983
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: maybe have heard the UPSOD, others have not. I highly

984
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: suggest you go to Luke Mickellson's interview. His organization called

985
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 2: Sleep in Heavenly Peace. And this is a guy who

986
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: was sick of watching his kids sit around on the

987
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: couch eating bond bonds and playing video games. And one

988
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: Christmas and Thanksgiving holiday time went and got some wood

989
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 2: and made a couple of bunk beds in his garage.

990
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: And once he made the bunk bed, he didn't have

991
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: anything to do with it. His kids didn't need it.

992
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: But the kids got some exercise, they got to do

993
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: something together, and he put it on Facebook and like

994
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 2: twenty people said I want this bed, and he gave

995
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: it away to somebody in need, and he said, heck,

996
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: we're going to make another one. And by Christmas, I

997
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: think he and his children had made fifteen or twenty

998
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 2: beds and given them away. And through that simple random act,

999
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: he found out maybe even invented a term which is

1000
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: called child bedlessness in the United States, and found out

1001
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: that there's children all over the United States sleeping on

1002
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: clothes or on a rolled up piece of carpet or nothing.

1003
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: Early on, he gave a bed to a kid that

1004
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: would take off their clothes, sleep on the clothes, and

1005
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: put those very clothes on to go to school. So

1006
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: literally they were wearing their bed to school. And his

1007
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: eyes were opened to the fact that there's poverty to

1008
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 2: a level in our country where children have no beds,

1009
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 2: and when they don't have a bed, they don't sleep well.

1010
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: When they don't sleep well, they don't study well. And

1011
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: they don't study well, they're irritable. And when they're irritable,

1012
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,959
Speaker 2: they don't do well in school, and then they have

1013
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: all kinds of behavioral issues, and the list goes on

1014
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 2: and on. And it's so simple that a child needs

1015
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: a bed, a good place sleep. And so he started

1016
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: sleeping heavenly peace. And since this has all happened, I

1017
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: think they've made and given a way over seven how

1018
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 2: many one hundreds, one hundred and forty thousand beds two

1019
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: bedless children in the United States. And so that's the

1020
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: podcast you listen to John that you shared with Andre,

1021
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 2: and then Andre got emotional because Andrea identified and the

1022
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: irony is Andrea. I just believe that the reason in

1023
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: twenty years you've gone from a plot of property that

1024
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: some children and women were excited about a dead shark

1025
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: on to now an orphanage taking care of forty five

1026
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: to sixty kids a year and providing them with skills

1027
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: and food, but most importantly love, which you said was

1028
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: missing from your experience that you want to provide your

1029
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: children from what I believe the success of that comes

1030
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: from your experience as a three to six year old.

1031
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: And now you hear this podcast that John shares with you,

1032
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: and John you just said you wanted to go from

1033
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: being a consumer to a provider. Andre, tell us now

1034
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 2: what your vision is for the kids and your orphanage

1035
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: with the guard to bets.

1036
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 4: Well, my vision is to go and through the bed

1037
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 4: make the kids through the beds I will.

1038
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: So let me just get this right. Orphans with no

1039
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: family and no home, or maybe family that can't care

1040
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: for him, but certainly no home, who are living in

1041
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: an orphanage are now going to use the campus that

1042
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: has been created that has a woodshot and now orphans

1043
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: are going to be making bets for Haitian children who

1044
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: don't live in the orphanage, yes, but don't have a bet.

1045
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: So now the orphans in the orphanage are going to

1046
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: serve their community by making beds and the shop that

1047
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 2: they learn how to do woodworking.

1048
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what they're going to do.

1049
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: What's phenomenal about the story to me why I wanted

1050
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 2: to meet you so bad, and what is so redemptive

1051
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: and inspirational to me is this. When you think of

1052
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: an orphan when you think of kids living an orphanage,

1053
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: you think of serving them. You don't think of them

1054
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: serving others. And the phenomenal lesson is for the kids

1055
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: in the orphanage. By comparison and Haiti look at the

1056
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: blessings you have to be able to live in this

1057
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: magnificent place, and even though you've been orphaned, you too

1058
01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 2: can serve. I don't know that there's a more valuable

1059
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 2: lesson a child could ever learn than what you're going

1060
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: to teach them through this exercise. And to the community

1061
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 2: at large, I mean it really has the potential to

1062
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: change the lives of some really unfortunate, poverty sticking children.

1063
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: How does that make you feel?

1064
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 4: You know, that's make me feel great, That's make me

1065
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 4: feel happy. You know, I'm all this trouble I went

1066
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 4: to God was preparing me for that.

1067
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 2: So John, the show is an army of normal folks.

1068
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: And what we always find out at the end of

1069
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 2: the show is that these normal folks are anything but normal.

1070
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: Thus the nickname I guess Andre the Giant for a

1071
01:05:54,360 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: five foot nine Haitian. You've seen this for the last

1072
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 2: twenty years. You've witnessed it all. You've been a part

1073
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: of it. You've been a party to it. You know

1074
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: what it is now and you know where it came from.

1075
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: And you've watched this man take his dream with absolutely

1076
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: no resources and dumpster dive and beg borrow and I

1077
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: won't say still, but beg borrow and knock on church

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Speaker 2: windows to get it to where it is now. Where's

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Speaker 2: what's next?

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Speaker 1: Well, what's next is to reconstitute the board and then

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Speaker 1: to ensure that these children that are coming through the

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Speaker 1: Place of Hope learn how to return to the community

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Speaker 1: what they've received.

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Speaker 2: Well, making beds for children who don't have them is

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Speaker 2: a good first step.

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Speaker 1: It is a good first step. And in Haiti, my

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Speaker 1: observation has been that there is a patronage culture, which

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Speaker 1: is to say that many of the people in Haiti

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Speaker 1: are waiting to be rescued, for someone to rescue them

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Speaker 1: take them out of it. What is less prevalent is

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneurial spirit, and so I think the next step

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Speaker 1: for the folks in Haiti is to become food secure,

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Speaker 1: self sufficient, so that they can grow their own.

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Speaker 2: Food or produce their food, buildings.

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Speaker 1: Get everything so that they can be self sustaining so

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Speaker 1: that they don't have to depend on anybody. And to

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Speaker 1: teach those kids that entrepreneurial spirit so that when they

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Speaker 1: leave that place with a skill, they know then how

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Speaker 1: to go and start a business of their own and

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Speaker 1: sustain themselves. I think that's the next big step for them.

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Speaker 2: Andre, you are an amazing human being with an amazing story,

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Speaker 2: and this is an amazing happenstance that a pastor from

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Speaker 2: Florida answered the door on a knock from Andre and

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Speaker 2: what has all developed and then comes full circle to

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Speaker 2: hear one of our podcasts that now is returning back

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Speaker 2: to Haiti where kids are going to make kids Orphans

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Speaker 2: in an orphanage are going to make beds for the

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Speaker 2: kids in the community they don't have them, and one

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Speaker 2: of the most poverty stricken places that I could imagine.

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Speaker 2: And John and Andre, both of you could not be

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Speaker 2: more emblematic of what we talk about when we talk

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Speaker 2: about an army of normal folks that see places of

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Speaker 2: need and don't fill them because they're a listers or

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Speaker 2: trust fund babies, but just normal folks who see places

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Speaker 2: of need and fill it and in doing so, change lives.

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Speaker 2: And you both have done that, and your life has

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Speaker 2: been doing that, Andre, and I'm so honored that we

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Speaker 2: got to have this conversation. I'm humbled and inspired by

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Speaker 2: both of your commitment and story to children who desperately

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Speaker 2: need it. I just want to tell you how much

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming to Memphis, ands you and your

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Speaker 2: story with me.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you for having.

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Speaker 2: Us, and thank you for joining us this week. A

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Speaker 2: little update, our team at an Army of Normal Folks

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Speaker 2: has decided to donate a thousand bucks to help the

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Speaker 2: Orphanage with material costs for building four beds, which are

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Speaker 2: more expensive in Haiti because getting the materials to Haiti

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Speaker 2: is so expensive, and Reverend John's church has decided to

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Speaker 2: match another one thousand dollars gift. If you be interested

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Speaker 2: in empowering Haitian orphans to help bedless kids in their community,

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Speaker 2: you can donate any amount to Place of Hope in

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Speaker 2: Haiti dot org and write beds in the comment box.

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Speaker 2: Or if you'd be interested in helping the orphanage in general,

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Speaker 2: you can of course do that as well. And if

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Speaker 2: Andre or John or other guests have inspired you in

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Speaker 2: general or better yet, to take action, please, seriously, y'all

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Speaker 2: let me know I want to hear about it. You

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Speaker 2: can write me anytime at Bill at Normalfolks dot us

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Speaker 2: and I will respond. If you enjoyed this incredible episode,

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01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 2: which I cannot imagine how you could enjoy this episode,

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: share it with friends and on social, subscribe to the podcast,

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01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: rate and review it, Become a premium member at normal

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Speaker 2: Folks dot us. All these things that will help us

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Speaker 2: grow an army of normal folks. Remember, guys, the more people,

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Speaker 2: the more impact. I'm Bill Courtney. I'll see you next week.