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Speaker 1: So we have talked about this at Big Ten. The

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Speaker 1: NIL has done the Big Ten a lot of favors.

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Speaker 3: So right now Purdue is.

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Speaker 1: In Iowa and Illinois, they're all in the Elite eight,

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Speaker 1: and Michigan and Michigan State Plate. Tonight you could have

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Speaker 1: a all Big Ten final four. I don't think you're going

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Speaker 1: to I think Arizona maybe the best team in the country.

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Speaker 1: They looked late last night. Yeah, we told you Arizona Arkans.

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Speaker 1: It's all gonna be a lot of points. But you know,

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Speaker 1: we all talk about the NIL of the five biggest

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Speaker 1: spenders in college basketball nil four or gone, Duke is

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Speaker 1: the only one left. Kentucky won a single game, same

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Speaker 1: with Louisville, and for the record, BYU's the second biggest

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Speaker 1: spender in college basketball. One and Done did not win

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Speaker 1: a game. So it's just like life.

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Speaker 3: You can make a.

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Speaker 1: Huge salary, but what are your financial choices? Four cars, sorry,

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Speaker 1: you're a moron, six boats, jet skis moron, moron.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what are you buying?

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Speaker 1: Are you buying depreciating assets or accelerating assets real estate

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Speaker 1: equities over a long stretch.

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Speaker 3: So it's just the same thing.

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Speaker 1: In the nil Iowa of the Sweet sixteen teams, Iowa

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Speaker 1: and Iowa State spend the least. Iowa's in the el eight.

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Speaker 1: Illinois spent a fortune. They spent a fortune overseas, they

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Speaker 3: They're big. Michigan's in the middle. Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: By the way, all five of their starters started their

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Speaker 1: career at Michigan State. Purdue does that. We talked about

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Speaker 1: a lot of different ways to do it. Iowa doesn't

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Speaker 1: spend any money. Illinois spends a fortune. You know Purdue

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Speaker 1: Nebraska who got bounced last night. Nebraska didn't spend any money.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not saying that money doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: But it's just like having a big salary.

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Speaker 1: What's the state tax rate, you have multiple cars, you

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Speaker 1: have depreciating assets that's on you. You buy real li

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Speaker 1: state equities, the dollar goes further, you'll have a nicer retirement.

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Speaker 1: So I you know, I'm just watching like Illinois hammer Houston,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying money doesn't matter, because Illinois went and

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Speaker 1: bought great young talent from Europe and Houston. Here's a

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Speaker 1: bite from Kelvin Samson earlier. It does matter. Are you

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Speaker 1: a school academically that graduates a lot of affluent boosters.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Kelvin Samson said earlier this year.

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Speaker 4: We have a very poor athletic department.

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Speaker 3: We're poor.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're poor when I got here, and we're

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Speaker 4: still poor. We probably have the lowest budget of anybody

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Speaker 4: in power for you know, and you know the way

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Speaker 4: our recruiting is going, we have to stop at some

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Speaker 4: point because we don't have enough money to keep bringing

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Speaker 3: That's the way it is today, absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: But the biggest spender year was Kentucky twenty million dollars

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Speaker 1: that helps the Big Ten immensely. I can say this.

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Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I didn't watch SEC football.

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Speaker 1: They are the super conference in college sports. We could

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Speaker 3: Here's Iowa's coach after moving to the Elite eight. Maybe

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Speaker 5: They see us right where we should.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So yep, there's five teams from the Big Ten left,

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Speaker 1: The Big ten's got the most probably the most good coaches.

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Speaker 1: So the Dodgers opened the season last night. They beat

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Speaker 1: he said, yeah, we need more parody, But I want

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Speaker 1: a lot. And this is why I feel much more

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Speaker 1: Baseball has a randomness that football and basketball do not.

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan did not have a series where he just

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Speaker 1: MJ didn't have a series where he couldn't get a shot,

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Speaker 3: Needed And I went and looked this up this sport.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers last season had two elimination games against the

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Speaker 1: against the Padres. They've been backed up against the wall

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Speaker 1: in the World Series. The nlds, the Dodgers have gotten.

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Speaker 1: You got to have a lot of wing defenders and

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Speaker 1: two stars minimum, you know. And in football, if you

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Speaker 3: You're not really a viable team.

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Speaker 1: But in baseball, you can spend a lot of money

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Speaker 1: like the MEPs they're no historically well run, and you

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Speaker 1: Brewers and make the playoffs. The lousy Angels last year,

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Speaker 1: think about this, the randomness of baseball. The lousy Angels

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Speaker 1: you can talk all you want about the parody. Baseball's randomness,

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Speaker 1: you can. I mean, the Yankees still spend money. They

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Speaker 8: We have a certain standard of excellence and I think

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Speaker 8: that even when you watch as Colin, how we play

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Speaker 8: we practice. I think the messag as far as keep

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Speaker 8: reference a greyhound. You know, when a greyhound's in a race,

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Speaker 3: So j Mac, you love your college basketball.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you I think the only team that

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Speaker 1: does feel I say, Michigan, but Illinois has been blowing

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Speaker 1: Didn't take money, but they hit almost every time they shot.

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Speaker 1: So Arizona is not a team necessarily that if you

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Speaker 1: Now they don't get behind very often, but they don't

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Speaker 1: shoot a lot. I mean their size and quickness. I

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Speaker 1: for other teams. Remaining like Arizona's depth of talent big.

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Speaker 1: You know, they spend some mon a lot, four different

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Speaker 1: first round NBA guys. Do you think they're the over one?

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Speaker 1: I still think Michigan matches up with Arizona. My guess

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Speaker 9: A big matchup of a bunch of studs. I do

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Speaker 9: think the Arizona backcourt is just unbelievable. The senior defensive

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Speaker 9: they're stacked.

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Speaker 10: They looked amazing.

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Speaker 9: But collin that Iowa game, how crazy is it that

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Speaker 1: So I'm reading an article this morning is hating Duke

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Speaker 10: Love your college basketball takes.

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Speaker 9: I'm loving that you like college basketball, Colin, and I

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Speaker 1: The referees do not want to call it be aggressive,

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Speaker 9: I got some Boiler Makers buddies that they love Braden

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Speaker 10: I don't think it's a great matchup.

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Speaker 9: The guy who had the tip in for Purdue, he's

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Speaker 3: So I think I liked Purdue in that game last night.

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Speaker 9: I don't either, even the Perdue toll kid, who I

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Speaker 10: I was obsessed with this. We have Iowa, as you know.

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Speaker 9: If you watch this play, Colin Nebraska only had four

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Speaker 9: I do love Fred Hoiberg. You know, he seems like

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Speaker 9: So so, Colin, I mean, listen, Hoyberg's played more basketball,

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Speaker 10: But the referees should count how many players on the court.

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Speaker 9: That's not their job. That's on the coach and the staff.

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Speaker 9: This is just an egregious error. Have you ever seen

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Speaker 1: with Iowa in spending. So you know, you win a

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Speaker 1: couple of games in the tournament and you're you're one

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Speaker 1: of the small spenders.

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Speaker 3: You deserve credit.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, major credit started the season twenty and oh they

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Speaker 9: spend money on girls women's volleyball at Nebraska. They're an

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Speaker 9: unbelievable juggernut. I know this because my daughter plays volleyball. Anyways,

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Speaker 9: final story columns go to the NFL. Now this this

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Speaker 9: was kind of an under the radar story yesterday. So

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Speaker 9: the Browns they restructured Miles Garrett's trade and Brown's fans

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Speaker 9: are looking into it and they're like, wait, what exactly

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Speaker 9: is going going on here with this contract? Miles Garrett's

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Speaker 9: contract gets restructured, and some of these cap bologists are like, h.

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Speaker 10: Wait a minute.

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Speaker 9: Based on this, it almost feels like the Browns are

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Speaker 9: going to be trading Miles Garrett. His contract now makes

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Speaker 9: him tradable. There's a lot with the dead cap I

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Speaker 9: don't want to get too much into the minutia. We

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Speaker 9: can if you want, But the big story here is,

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Speaker 9: all of a sudden, Miles Garrett could be traded.

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Speaker 3: Timeout time out.

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Speaker 1: Why would you trade him when you're not paying shad

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Speaker 1: Or Sanders, your corner back anything, and if you draft

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Speaker 1: another quarterback, you won't be paying him for four years.

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Speaker 1: So you have a five year half decad run of

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Speaker 1: not paying your quarterback and you have the best football

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Speaker 1: player in the league at his position.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 1: It's why I said about Max Crosby. The Raiders have

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Speaker 1: no veteran like soul of the locker room guys. Why

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get ten draft picks keep Max Crosby. Why

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Speaker 1: would I get rid of the best player at his position.

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Speaker 1: It'd be one thing. If I was paying my quarterback

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Speaker 1: was Caleb Williams in three years and I'm paying him

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Speaker 1: sixty five million a year, then we can have a discussion.

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Speaker 1: You're not who are they paying on this? They're not

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Speaker 1: paying a star receiver, They're not paying a quarterback their

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Speaker 1: best now they didn't in Djoku leave, so now they

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Speaker 1: have that young tight end from Bowling Green, so they're

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Speaker 1: not paying him.

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Speaker 3: Who are they paying?

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Speaker 9: Well, Colin, Remember yesterday I mentioned teams tanking. Okay, people

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Speaker 9: don't want to hear this. The Cleveland Browns No, Miles

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Speaker 9: Garrett requested a trade last year. He wants to go

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Speaker 9: play for a contender. Just like Crosby, the Browns are

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Speaker 9: going nowhere. If you're selling at the top of Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 9: he just broke the sack record.

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Speaker 2: What can you get for him?

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Speaker 1: If Michael you could get two first and probably a third,

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Speaker 1: why would you need Kalen Waddle got a first, a

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Speaker 1: third of fifth. Miles Garrett is two first and then

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Speaker 1: I think Miles Garrett, you could get two firsts and

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Speaker 1: like a.

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Speaker 3: Starting you know, a starting right tack.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting a left tackle, but like a starting center,

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Speaker 1: a starting right tackle.

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Speaker 8: Maybe so.

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Speaker 9: And a lot of you know, our producers, the staff,

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Speaker 9: they're saying Miles Garrett has said like nothing since the

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Speaker 9: new coach, Hirant Todd Bunkett, very quiet, and you know

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Speaker 9: behind the scenes, to restructure this contract is like interesting, Colin.

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Speaker 9: I think it makes a ton of sense to sell

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Speaker 9: Hi on. Miles Garrett just broke the sack record. You're

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Speaker 9: not winning anything with him next year, Get him off

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Speaker 9: the books, bring in multiple picks next year's quarterback class.

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Speaker 9: We're starting to see stories pop up about how it's

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Speaker 9: like eight or nine potentially deep. I'm just I don't

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Speaker 9: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Think you ever want to move off the best player

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Speaker 1: in the.

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Speaker 3: World at a position.

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Speaker 1: Now now the best player in the world at guard.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs moved off Joe Toney. That's different. But I

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Speaker 1: mean even the best center. I would not have let

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Speaker 1: Tyler Linderbaum go if I was the Ravens, like I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't let Creed Humphrey go if I was the Chiefs, so.

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Speaker 3: I I would.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying if I was a GM and I

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Speaker 1: wasn't paying my quarterback, I'll give you credit. I think

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Speaker 1: this is this sounds if they move him that is

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Speaker 1: deliberately seeking the number one pick, because you can't tank

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Speaker 1: in football.

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Speaker 3: You've got to.

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Speaker 9: It's just you can just be not you cannot make

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Speaker 9: a quarterback a priority, and then you stink. But if

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Speaker 9: you're Josh Allen and you see this news, are you

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Speaker 9: instantly calling Bean and being like, bro, can we just

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Speaker 9: freaking get Miles Garrett please?

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Speaker 3: Can you just go get it?

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Speaker 1: Well, then John don't care about the next view Josh

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Speaker 1: would have to do. They'd have to restructure Josh's call.

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Speaker 9: Maybe he'll want to do that, and you know, Jerry

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Speaker 9: Jones sees that and the bat signal goes up.

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Speaker 10: All that's that's my music.

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Speaker 1: Baby, Can I give up three picks like people go crazy?

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: J mckal news, Well that's the news, and thanks for

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Speaker 2: stopping that.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna tread lightly here because Jamax is going

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Speaker 1: to get into his fields.

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Speaker 3: So Luka Dantach has.

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Speaker 1: Had a great last couple of weeks and I saw

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Speaker 1: the headline today, Luka Doncic is on a scoring tear

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Speaker 1: the likes of which we've not seen since Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: If you go look at this latest group of teams

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Speaker 1: that he's rolled against, Pacers, Piston's Magic Heat rockets twice.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything they have in common?

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Speaker 3: I think there is.

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Speaker 1: If Luca doesn't have a star scoring guard that he

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Speaker 1: would have to guard in a game, and he can

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Speaker 1: concentrate on offense, he's money. Houston doesn't a men. Thompson's

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Speaker 1: not a skilled offensive player, Pacers don't. Miami Heat's best

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Speaker 1: player is Bam a big. I think what you're going

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Speaker 1: to see, and I've said this before, Luca is wonderful

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Speaker 1: in the regular season, But if you look at the West,

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Speaker 1: what are teams gonna do to Luka Danteg Minnesota last year?

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Speaker 1: Make him go guard amp Okay? So Lucas the number

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Speaker 1: one U sagerate player in the league. That means he's

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Speaker 1: got the ball a lot. We've seen guys like that

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Speaker 1: were down in the playoffs. Remember this the last guy

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Speaker 1: who led the NBA and usagerrate and won a championship,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan twenty eight years ago. It's really hard to do.

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Speaker 1: And Jordan was, I mean, Jordan was playing thirty six

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Speaker 1: holes between games. Michael Jordan's physiology is just hard to explain.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when he went to minor league baseball.

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Speaker 1: He go to the South. He's like in you know, Birmingham.

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Speaker 1: He's putting on one of those dark you know, uh

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Speaker 1: sweatsuits and batting practice for hours until there were blisters

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Speaker 1: on his hands, and then he would go out and play.

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Speaker 1: Like Jordan's ability, his relentless ability to just have energy

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Speaker 1: an entire season. I've never seen anything like it. And

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Speaker 1: Charles Barkley's like, I'd play golf. Michael played thirty six

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Speaker 1: holes and then to be a playoff game. So that's

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Speaker 1: not Luca. Luca's not in Michael Jordan shape. So if

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Speaker 1: you go look at the West, it's gonna be fascinating

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Speaker 1: because SGA Oklahoma City is gonna go Okay, Sga hunt him,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota's gonna go aunt hunt him. San Antonio Stefan Castle

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Speaker 1: or you know, Dylan Harper hunt him. So the three

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Speaker 1: and Denver by the way, Jamal Murray, we're gonna hunt Luca.

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Speaker 1: So the four teams that give the Lakers trouble in

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Speaker 1: the West all have a guard or an as Simon,

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Speaker 1: a wing player that Luca is going to have to

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Speaker 1: defend at some point. And those teams are gonna make

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Speaker 1: sure Luca and his number one usage rate has to

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Speaker 1: guard those players. And what does it mean between usage

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Speaker 1: rate and having to play on the defensive end, You're

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Speaker 1: not the same offense player. Go look at a lot

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Speaker 1: of Luca's biggest nights and again regular season, not postseason,

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Speaker 1: but Detroit Kate Cunningham's out, he didn't have a big

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Speaker 1: defensive assignment, Rockets well Shen Goon, Kevin Durant, those aren't

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Speaker 1: his guys. And a men Thompson's not a great offensive player.

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Speaker 1: The Miami Heat again, bam. So that's that's the advantage

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Speaker 1: with Luca. These usage rate guys in the playoffs historically struggle,

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Speaker 1: but in the West, and this is why I think

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Speaker 1: the Lakers are so fascinating. The teams above them have

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Speaker 1: star players, often the best player on a team that

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Speaker 1: lucas going to be asked, at least to some degree

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Speaker 1: to score.

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Speaker 3: I mean, good god, folks.

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Speaker 1: When they played the Pacers, the Indiana Pacers are the

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Speaker 1: worst team in the league in their tanking. Players that

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Speaker 1: Luca guarded in that game shot seventy percent thirteen of nineteen.

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Speaker 1: So again, when Luca plays teams without elite scorers, we

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Speaker 1: talk about his offense, mark my word. We get to

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Speaker 1: mid May, that's when the Luca questions are going to happen.

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Speaker 1: And it would be different if the Lakers had a

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Speaker 1: great rim protector. But you beat Luca, it's a pathway

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Speaker 1: to the basket because DeAndre Aiden can't guard the camera

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Speaker 1: in this studio. So j Mac, I know I'm.

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Speaker 9: Going to go on that that Pacer status crazy, he

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Speaker 9: said thirteen or nineteen thirty. I just say it was

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Speaker 9: the final game of a six game road trip. The

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Speaker 9: Lakers played no defense, gave up like a buck thirty

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Speaker 9: one hundred and thirty points.

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Speaker 10: I'll excuse that.

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Speaker 9: I do think your point about hunting Luca is interesting,

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Speaker 9: But if you notice Reddick has done a lot of

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Speaker 9: gimmicky zones.

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Speaker 10: He's tinkered with a lot of.

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Speaker 9: Zone in the second half of the season during this

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Speaker 9: Lakers hot streak. I don't know if the zone will

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Speaker 9: be usable in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can.

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Speaker 1: I think there's two I think the teams that you

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Speaker 1: play make it very hard to do that. I listen,

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Speaker 1: everybody knows the whole story on Luca usage rate. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you go look at the history of Luke in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, teams go after him and force him to defend.

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Speaker 1: And so if you don't have somebody that he really

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Speaker 1: has to defend, he can cheat. He gets to save

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Speaker 1: his energy for the offensive end Houston heat Detroit without

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Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham. The problem is SGA and Dylan Harper dearon

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Speaker 1: Fox defaon Castle, Jamal Murray. They're gonna make sure Luca

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Speaker 1: has to fairpoint be on the hip of those guys,

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Speaker 1: and that Luka Dantis has the highest career usage rate

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Speaker 1: of all time.

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Speaker 9: Now he has gone to the Conference finals with Dallas

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Speaker 9: and then he went to the NBA Finals with Dallas.

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Speaker 9: This idea that they're going to attack him, I think

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Speaker 9: he's ready for it now that it would be nice

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Speaker 9: to have a rim protector. You know, DeAndre Ayton can't

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Speaker 9: jump over a phone book or defend a light in

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Speaker 9: your studio, so that's a problem. But I do think ultimately,

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Speaker 9: you know, Lakers cruise in round one. Round two is

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Speaker 9: a tough one. I'd rather face the Thunder than the Spurs.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to see the Spurs one Bin Yama, no,

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Speaker 9: thank you.

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Speaker 3: I think they're really tough matchups either way.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and New Easter not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that frustrates a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: myself included about the media is they bring up things

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Speaker 1: that nobody really cares about. Watch out for this. This

654
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Speaker 1: is a problem, and nobody really thinks it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: I think one of that. One of those examples would

656
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Speaker 1: be like occasionally yelling at a player I played in

657
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Speaker 1: high school sports. Every coach I think at our conference

658
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Speaker 1: was a screamer and they were fine. You know what

659
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Speaker 1: is coaching other than taking you to a place you

660
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Speaker 1: can't get to by yourself. That's what coaching is. So

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Speaker 1: tom Izzo is loud, he uses volume, and he addressed

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Speaker 1: it this week.

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Speaker 5: I don't give a damn.

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Speaker 10: I don't.

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Speaker 5: But I tell you what, I don't have many players

666
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Speaker 5: that leave. I don't have many players that don't come back.

667
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Speaker 5: So somebody must enjoy something. Accountability is going to be

668
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Speaker 5: big till I leave. That bothers some people, God bless them.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: So I mean to me, gentle parenting or negotiating with

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Speaker 1: your kids, good luck with that. I don't think it works.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they did a study in twenty twenty two.

673
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Speaker 1: They did a study and they found that children raise

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Speaker 1: with authoritative parenting styles achieved more academically. And similarly, on

675
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Speaker 1: another study, they discovered that a lack of like authoritative

676
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Speaker 1: parenting like sometimes parents say because I'm the parent, the

677
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Speaker 1: parents that didn't parent like that the children the number

678
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Speaker 1: one factor in low life satisfaction was not having a

679
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Speaker 1: parent who directed traffic. That's I mean, I'm just going

680
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Speaker 1: back to my life in college and high school. My

681
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Speaker 1: favorite teachers occasionally barked I needed to be barked at.

682
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Speaker 1: I wasn't always this likable. Here's here's Dan Hurley talking

683
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Speaker 1: about tough coaching.

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Speaker 12: Yeah. I just think that's you know, society we've gotten

685
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Speaker 12: often in a lot of ways. I think with you know,

686
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Speaker 12: trying to develop young people, I think young people, the

687
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Speaker 12: teachers and coaches that impact their lives the most are

688
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 12: not the teachers and coaches that like gave MC grade

689
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Speaker 12: they didn't deserve. I mean, you remember the teach choosing

690
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Speaker 12: coaches that pushed you to your maximum, you know, that

691
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Speaker 12: pushed you beyond your comfort level, that got the most

692
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Speaker 12: out of you. That English teacher that made you do

693
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 12: the work and the tests were hard and you had

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Speaker 12: to study hard and just think the same thing applies

695
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Speaker 12: to coaching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And people will say, well, what about Bob nine. Yeah,

697
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: he went over the line all the time. Most coaches

698
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Speaker 1: don't do that. And for the record, Jay Wright is

699
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Speaker 1: not a yeller and screamer. Hurley yells at officials way

700
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Speaker 1: more than his players. Shryzhevsky yelled at both. Some guys is, oh,

701
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Speaker 1: get you know he barks at both. But I've never

702
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Speaker 1: heard a player say he hates tom Izzo. I really don't.

703
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: And again, I had yellers and screamers, and kids know

704
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Speaker 1: they're not yelling and screaming to yell and scream, and

705
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Speaker 1: a lot of these high volume coaches, they're the ones remaining.

706
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Speaker 1: So remember this is not the NBA playoffs. You don't

707
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Speaker 1: have seven games. You've got basically a timeout, a ten

708
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: second moment with a kid, or a brief halftime. You know,

709
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Speaker 1: you don't have seven games to massage your message. You

710
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: got to get stuff solved fast. And so this this

711
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Speaker 1: is one of those things that it's just sort of

712
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Speaker 1: understood that Nick Saban barked Clay Helton. The USC did not.

713
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Speaker 1: And that was one of the knocks, is the program kind.

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Speaker 3: Of lacked an urgency. A lot of these guys who

715
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Speaker 3: are nice guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was talking about this to somebody the

717
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Speaker 1: other day about coaching, and I said.

718
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Speaker 3: You know, you need a little you need about ten

719
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Speaker 3: percent of jerk.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes it's you gotta say stuff that's hard on kids.

721
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Speaker 1: They're they're fine, they're they're malleble.

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Speaker 2: You know.

723
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Speaker 1: So last night, and we told you yesterday on the show,

724
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Speaker 1: we said Arkansas versus Arizona. I like Arizona, but I

725
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: said it's gonna be wild and fun to watch. Darius

726
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: Acliff for Arkansas is going to be a big score

727
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Speaker 1: in the NBA. You know, he's not a great defense.

728
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: But you know, when I say to you great NBA defender,

729
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: can you name ten? Take out Wemby? Name ten? There's

730
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: not ten great NBA defenders. So it's an offensive league

731
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Speaker 1: seventy thirty. Now, I think Wemby is so good historically

732
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: that that carries his off offensive nights and he would

733
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Speaker 1: be my MVP. But Darius Acuf is phenomenal player, catch

734
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Speaker 1: and shoot, drive and shoot, excellent passer's the he's got everything.

735
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Speaker 3: He's small, you.

736
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Speaker 1: Know, listed at six threes, probably closer to six one

737
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: and a half, but he's electric. He's going to be

738
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Speaker 1: a really good NBA player. But last night, there's only

739
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Speaker 1: so much you can do. Arizona is one of those teams.

740
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Speaker 1: And that was the worst loss for John Calipari in

741
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Speaker 1: the history of the tournament. For him and this Arkansas

742
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Speaker 1: team's good, and Calipari has done a great job everywhere

743
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Speaker 1: he's gone in increasing personnel and commitment. Arkansas is a

744
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: good team. But I mean Arizona, I mean, the only

745
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: shortcoming is they don't shoot and make a lot of threes.

746
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Speaker 3: Last night they shot like eight and they made like six, So.

747
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Speaker 1: That's a Arizona's not maybe built to come from way behind,

748
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: but they don't really fall way behind.

749
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Speaker 3: And here's Calipari on what he watched.

750
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Speaker 14: Arizona is really good. And if they shoot the ball

751
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 14: that way and do the things they did today, Wow,

752
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Speaker 14: But that was a hard one, you know, and they

753
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Speaker 14: got us from right to the beginning. We kind of

754
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 14: kept it a little close. But they're good, really good team.

755
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Speaker 1: So in in tournament history, something happened. Arizona had six

756
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Speaker 1: players with fourteen or more points. That is that never

757
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: happened ever, six guys with fourteen plus points. So Arizona's

758
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: got guys off the bench who could start for Arkansas.

759
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Speaker 3: And Arkansas's good.

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Speaker 1: So I think Michigan to me, Michigan and Arizona from

761
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Speaker 1: what I've seen and now, Michigan is also a team

762
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Speaker 1: that can be not great on the wings, They're about

763
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Speaker 1: Mara and Lendenburg. They're about size. Arizona is about size

764
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Speaker 1: and depth. So you know, and let's be honest, you're

765
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Speaker 1: all saying Tommy Lloyd, he's gonna take that Carolina job.

766
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Speaker 1: Arizona's been good since like eighty three. They were awful.

767
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Speaker 1: Loudolson took over and they were good the first year

768
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Speaker 1: of Loudolsen like the first year, they were good. They

769
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Speaker 1: have been good for I shouldn't say they were awful.

770
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Speaker 1: They took over and I've recalled they were okay, but

771
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Speaker 1: with Loot they won day one. So I have no

772
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Speaker 1: idea why you would leave Arizona. Usually the way it

773
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Speaker 1: works in college sports, the athletic department picks a side

774
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: like Georgia and Penn State football Duke and Arizona basketball.

775
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna spend money on who's here's their coach, Tommy

776
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Speaker 1: Lloyd on the Nile.

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Speaker 15: There's lots of reasons I took Arizona job, and one

778
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Speaker 15: of them was kind of forecasting these changes happening, because

779
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Speaker 15: right right when I was getting the job, the nil

780
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Speaker 15: deal was rumored and then it started in July, and

781
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Speaker 15: I just I figured, Arizona's a place that has a

782
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Speaker 15: pretty strong, long basketball tradition and they're going to be

783
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Speaker 15: excited to invest in basketball and we have.

784
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Arizona's a great job. And Tucson, I mean,

785
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, basketball a lot of the a lot of

786
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Speaker 1: winter basketball starts in you know, October, November, December, January.

787
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Speaker 1: Two Sons a pretty good place to live. In the summer,

788
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Speaker 1: you can head to the hills