WEBVTT - New WWE Names/RAW Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get it all. How's it going, everybody. Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day

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<v Speaker 1>Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>sixth Eastern. Yes, I am back after an exciting someone

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<v Speaker 1>here says, uh, vacation. I guess I was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>on vacation, but it was a working vacation. Man, Look

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<v Speaker 1>at me. I'm tired. Hey, we got a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>get into here today because I desperately try to wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>But watching New Japan, I watched Filthy Tom and Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and Eugene Nagata Holy Smokes, and I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the Suzukiyashiti match when I had to I

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<v Speaker 1>had to do this show. So we'll review as much

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<v Speaker 1>as we can on the Filthy Town Lawler show coming

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<v Speaker 1>up at two Pacific five Eastern. But today we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into all of the news. Tonight, of course, is Monday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Raw, and you know how it goes with this

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<v Speaker 1>Raw show. They've announced a bunch of stuff we'll find

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<v Speaker 1>out what actually airs. We've got allegedly two championship matches,

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<v Speaker 1>unless of course, somebody ends up in protocol at the

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<v Speaker 1>last second. We've got a light detector test, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have got a double wedding, two weddings going on at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, so I'll give me the lineup for

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<v Speaker 1>that show tonight. We've got the update on Ring of

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<v Speaker 1>Honor on Sinclair. Ring of Honor on Sinclair is no more.

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<v Speaker 1>They they're done, and so we'll see if this coming

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday on the A W Show, we'll see if the

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<v Speaker 1>big announcement by Tony Kahn has to do with streaming,

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<v Speaker 1>because one would think that maybe it should have something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with streaming, because a Ring of Honor needs

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<v Speaker 1>a deal of some sort. They're actually signing a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of wrestlers. They get a lot of wrestlers on the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>They just they just signed their champion in fact, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have no television, so we'll have to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna do there. We have new names, new

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<v Speaker 1>w w E names. That's always fun. You know, A

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<v Speaker 1>couple of people have Nancy to change her name is

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<v Speaker 1>probably more to come. I'll tell you why. What the

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<v Speaker 1>new names are neither of which is an improvement, and

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<v Speaker 1>much much more so. Stick around, everybody back in a

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<v Speaker 1>moment Wrestling Observer Live. R uh huh back here on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Right now? Is here Wrestling Observer alive? And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see Mike semperviv anywhere? Where is this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>How goes everybody Live radio? Well, we'll send him his

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<v Speaker 1>friendly you know how it goes every every couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to send Mica, you know, wake up? Text

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<v Speaker 1>says right here, simple microphone turned off. Mhm, probably love

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<v Speaker 1>turn that on. Money Alright, Well, let's let's get going

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<v Speaker 1>here while we figure this out. He just sent me,

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<v Speaker 1>uh some profanity, so he's awake. I still know where

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<v Speaker 1>he's at. So anyway, okay, going with Adam. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. We got a lot to uh. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>says he can see and hear me. Mike, can you

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<v Speaker 1>hear me? Okay, now we can hear you. But where's

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<v Speaker 1>your video? Buddy? I have no idea, dude. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>amuting me though or whatever. It was, all right, try reconnecting.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared said, I shall, man, what an exciting show we

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<v Speaker 1>have every day for you people. It's Monday minutes and

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of absolutely nothing happening. Alright, well, let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>the news and then we'll figure out Mike's video here,

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<v Speaker 1>or we'll just make him a giraffe again. So tonight's Raw.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got four things announced for the show, and only

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<v Speaker 1>two of them are wrestling matches, although they're both championship matches.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Sasha Banks and Naomi versus Rea Ripley and

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<v Speaker 1>Live Morgan for the women's tag team titles. And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to do this match a week ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but Ria Ripley was and I quote, in protocol and

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<v Speaker 1>so she was unable to do the match. She is

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<v Speaker 1>now out of protocol because she appeared and wrestled in

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<v Speaker 1>fact on SmackDown, So unless somebody else ends up in

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<v Speaker 1>protocol tonight, the match will actually be taken place. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's for the women's tag team titles. We have Finn

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<v Speaker 1>Balor defending the United States Championship match. Tell your friends

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<v Speaker 1>about this one. Finn Valor will be facing Theory because

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<v Speaker 1>it can't be Austin theory anymore. He must be Theory.

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<v Speaker 1>So Finnbeller will be facing Theory for the United States Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have Kevin Owens administering a lie detector

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<v Speaker 1>test on Ezekiel, and then we will have the double

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<v Speaker 1>wedding of Dana Brooke and Reggie and Tamina, and a

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<v Speaker 1>cure to Zawa. So we've got a double wedding, a

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<v Speaker 1>light detector test, and to championship matches. And I believe Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>we have once again lost. Like cemper vv, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna mute everything for now. I'm gonna continue on and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll figure this out in the next segment. So as

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<v Speaker 1>as noted here, uh, Austin theory is no longer Austin

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<v Speaker 1>theory because what happened was Vince McMahon, seventy six year

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<v Speaker 1>old Vince McMahon. He woke up one day and he decided,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I want's names? No real names? And so

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<v Speaker 1>this course does not apply to everybody. It's I forget

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<v Speaker 1>the name that Dave used in the Observer, but Randy

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<v Speaker 1>Oran's not gonna wake up tomorrow and get a new name.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're you know, some random person or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>this could apply to you. So because Austin theories real

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<v Speaker 1>his his real name is not Austin theory, okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>his real first name is Austin, so therefore he can't

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<v Speaker 1>use his real first name as part of his fake

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<v Speaker 1>full name, so he can no longer be Austin Theory.

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<v Speaker 1>He just has to be Theory. Or you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>could have given him a new first name. They could

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<v Speaker 1>have just decided, you know, we'll call him Frank Theory.

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<v Speaker 1>But they decided we'll just call him Theory. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why Marcel Bartel has a new name, because apparently that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually his name, is Marcel Bartel. Vaulter's real name was Vaulter,

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<v Speaker 1>so now he must be Guntherer because that's not his

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<v Speaker 1>real name. And then we now have the name changes

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<v Speaker 1>for two n XT wrestlers. Kaylee Ray is now going

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<v Speaker 1>to be Alba Fire f y r E Alba Fire.

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<v Speaker 1>And this one's my favorite. They are changing the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Casey catan Zaro. Okay, Casey caton Zaro is no

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<v Speaker 1>longer Casey caton Zaro. She is now Katana Chance. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess because she takes a lot of chances or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Katana Chance is the new name of of Casey caton Zaro.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was thinking about this the other day, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys know this about Casey

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<v Speaker 1>caton Zaro. But she was an American Ninja Warrior and

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<v Speaker 1>she was, like, you know, really popular on that show,

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<v Speaker 1>and they saw her and they signed her and they

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<v Speaker 1>gave her spots out of American Ninja Warrior, like she

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<v Speaker 1>climbs the ring post to get into the ring. But

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<v Speaker 1>now they're going to change her name. She's no longer

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<v Speaker 1>Casey canton Zaro because I mean, when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like calling her Casey canton Zaro you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do like huge business or anything like that. It honestly

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, Like you're not gonna get new fans because

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<v Speaker 1>American Ninja Warriors Casey caton Zaro is in w w E.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is funny that you go out of your

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<v Speaker 1>way to hire somebody out of American Ninja Warrior and

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<v Speaker 1>then we must change her name. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Creed Brothers, as we mentioned, you know, they all

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<v Speaker 1>they do is talk about the accolades of the Creed Brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not actually their their names. They have they

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<v Speaker 1>have names, so they actually got all of those accolades

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<v Speaker 1>under and so so there you go so many way.

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<v Speaker 1>She could no longer be case of Catain's arum. So

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, you know, what's the point. She's Katana Chance,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's gonna be probably others that have to change

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<v Speaker 1>their names as well as a result of this decree,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure will you know not last forever, Raquel

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<v Speaker 1>Gonzalez had to change her name to Raquel Rodriguez because

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<v Speaker 1>Gonzalez is her actual last name. So all I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of is that, you know, Vince's Vince's concerned. Presumably, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Raoul Mendoz also now Cruise del Toro, He's no longer

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<v Speaker 1>Raoul Mendoza, So presumably Vince's concern is that, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if Austin Theory leaves w W E to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a W, he can't be Austin Theory, but he could

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<v Speaker 1>be Austin. Well, we can't have that, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>to take away everything from them that is real that

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<v Speaker 1>they could therefore then use elsewhere. Obviously, if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Riddle, you know you're not gonna have to change

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<v Speaker 1>your last name. I don't think I guess we could,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, turn on the show tonight. He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>new name. But that's his new decree for the n

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<v Speaker 1>x T folks, the folks being called up to the

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<v Speaker 1>main roster, no real names, not even a real first name,

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<v Speaker 1>and a fake lass name or a whatever. So it's Vince.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't it honestly doesn't matter. But it is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those Vince things that I must ridicule on air

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<v Speaker 1>because it's ridiculous. Are you back now, Mike? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>We got audio and video from Mike here that is

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<v Speaker 1>very Vince. By the way, And why did Riddle have

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<v Speaker 1>to change his first name? Why did they drop that one? Well? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that they originally dropped his first name was

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<v Speaker 1>because they were and this is another funny one, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want people to google Matthew Riddle's name and find

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<v Speaker 1>out that he had had all of the issues with

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<v Speaker 1>weed in UFC. And so I guess in Vince's brain

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<v Speaker 1>because he's seventy six, well, if remove his first name,

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<v Speaker 1>they won't be able to find any information about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Never mind the fact that if you google W. W. E. Riddle,

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<v Speaker 1>his whole name comes up in his Wikipedia and everything

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<v Speaker 1>about his own entire life. But that was Vince's that

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<v Speaker 1>was his solution to h And then, of course, nowadays

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<v Speaker 1>you know now you may as well give him his

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<v Speaker 1>name back, because now they're they're embracing the whole weed

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<v Speaker 1>thing on SmackDown, Uh, grasshoppers. Remember he used to jump

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<v Speaker 1>in the air and kick his shoes off and and

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<v Speaker 1>birds would fly out or whatever. Well, on SmackDown it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was grasshoppers. And so they were making all

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<v Speaker 1>these these comments about grass because now it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>gimmick that they they're weed smokers. Him and Randy Orton

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<v Speaker 1>are friends in weed. But before they decided that that

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<v Speaker 1>was okay, they didn't want people finding about all of

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<v Speaker 1>this weed, and so they thought the solution was to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of his first name. Then we will know

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be able to find out anything about this Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Riddle if we just call him Riddle, they'll google and

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<v Speaker 1>find something about Batman. Back after the break Observer Live,

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<v Speaker 1>you know somebody that Chad during the break noted that

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<v Speaker 1>I might have my timeline Rock. There was concern that

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<v Speaker 1>people would find out about who met Riddle in his

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<v Speaker 1>weed issues. But I think it actually might have been

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<v Speaker 1>when he was having his legal issues that they dropped

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<v Speaker 1>the Matt Matt part, because you know, you dropped that

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and you just can't find information about the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's a ghost once he dropped his his first name.

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<v Speaker 1>And this may be a story for another day in

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<v Speaker 1>the future. But Gable Stevenson keeps his name. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>He's get to keep his name for the time being,

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<v Speaker 1>but not his brother. His brother has to change his name.

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<v Speaker 1>The brother of Gable Stevenson has to have a new name.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they acknowledges his brother, but that he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a totally different name. And by the way, somebody brought

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<v Speaker 1>up to me it is a great it's a great point.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, shouldn't Kevin Owens be going all over

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<v Speaker 1>this company both you know, Ross SmackDown and n x

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<v Speaker 1>T and given light detectors to all these people that

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<v Speaker 1>are having these new names. Now where is he on SmackDown?

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<v Speaker 1>When uh, you know, Raquel Gonzalez shows up, she got

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<v Speaker 1>a new name, and that his whole issue with with

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<v Speaker 1>with Ezekiel. No, no, no, it's not about the name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the fact that that he believes that Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 1>is a lie is and that Elias is not just

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<v Speaker 1>faking his own name. But you know, these other people

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<v Speaker 1>like Butch, you know, Pat McAfee brings up you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he sneaks in their line about calling him Pete and

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<v Speaker 1>how he knows these mistake. Well, but you know, whereas like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of noted that these people that

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<v Speaker 1>they are who they are, they just have new names.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas you know, Elias is just saying, no, I never

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<v Speaker 1>existed at all, I am Ezekiel. Well that's only because

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<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel has stated that he is his own brother. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>for all I know this, uh whatever, Marcel Bartel's real

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<v Speaker 1>name is Ludvig Kaiser. For all I know, he's saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's the brother of Marcel Bartel. We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been busy doing promos. Raquel has never explained she

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<v Speaker 1>was a former n x T champion. She's just showed

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<v Speaker 1>up with a new name. Maybe she's pretending to be

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<v Speaker 1>her own sister. Maybe that's gonna be like Ezekiel is

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<v Speaker 1>just the first, and like there's gonna be a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of wrestlers that show up and they're actually their

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<v Speaker 1>own sib links. There's gonna be an army of siblings.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the This is the worst Luca Underground remake

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever dumb or anything else. We're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>Katana chance show up and say I'm actually the sister

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<v Speaker 1>of the famous Casey Kennon Zara from American Ninja Warrior.

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<v Speaker 1>She quit, but I'm her twin and I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>all of her spots and everything like that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>got a different name, and oddly enough a different last

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<v Speaker 1>name as well. Alba Fire, Alba Fire, Alba fare. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>remember Kaylee ray Quit, I'm her sister, Alba Fire. Bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of sisters and brothers gonna form a faction really is

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<v Speaker 1>like shaken up in the name generator and just okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we got here? Alba Fire? Is that a name? Fire?

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<v Speaker 1>Alba Alba Fire? Sure? Why not? Alba Fire? Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>means something to her, because I know apparently people have

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<v Speaker 1>input into some of the names that they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be called sometimes times. Um so if this means

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<v Speaker 1>something to her, I apologize for poking fun at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Alba Fire, you know, I I've told the story before,

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<v Speaker 1>but when I used to write the Breaking Cafe here,

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<v Speaker 1>the Frank A Gotch Flying Mayor Wrestling newsletter for Figure

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<v Speaker 1>four Weekly, some of those around here there would always

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<v Speaker 1>be there, always be, you know, a quote from some rando,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I had to get these. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>get a name for the rando. And so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back then we had phone books. A few youngsters know

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<v Speaker 1>what a phone book is, which, by the way, remind

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<v Speaker 1>me I got another story time. But anyway, they had

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<v Speaker 1>a phone book, and you would open the phone book

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<v Speaker 1>and would it would have everyone's you know, they talk

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<v Speaker 1>about doxing. Nowadays you could just open the phone book

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<v Speaker 1>and get everyone's phone number and address. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>school with you know what I actually did, Chris Walla.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh just look in the phone book. Oh, there's Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace's name and address and phone numbers right there in

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<v Speaker 1>the phone book. Should have called it the docks book.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so I didn't want to use anyone's actual name, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't open the thing and go, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a you know, Frank mayor or whatever, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know he might be a reader. So I would I

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<v Speaker 1>would get a first name from some person and a

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<v Speaker 1>random last name from another person, and I would combine

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<v Speaker 1>those together and it would come up with the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the person doing the quote. And uh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>exactly like these NX team names. It was just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. But like when you hear

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<v Speaker 1>someone's real name, like Mike simper Viv, it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>like that's like a real name, because it is. But

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, if I took your first name and

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Valley's last name and I said debuting tonight, Mike Valley,

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<v Speaker 1>that just sounds weird. Or hey, you know what's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>show up tonight, Jim simper Viv. You're like, who is

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<v Speaker 1>what a stupid name? But anyway, that's all these names

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<v Speaker 1>are just they don't roll off the tongue. They just

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<v Speaker 1>sound weird. Alba fire Cut on a chance and even

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<v Speaker 1>briant look even in in the Flying Mirror and in

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<v Speaker 1>the Onion, which would be another great use of doing

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<v Speaker 1>something like that with the fake quotes with somebody's name

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<v Speaker 1>attached to him, they sound like real names. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know there's a lot of wacky names out there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of unique and different names and names rooted

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<v Speaker 1>in culture that you know, I'm not familiar with. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of names out there that are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like but like with w W E, they either they

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<v Speaker 1>come across so generic, like isis Nile? I thought that's

0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of a cool name. Maybe you look at Ivy Nile.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Like I thought that was kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>cool name. But then it's like Alba Fire, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how great that sounds. Katana Chance sounds like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>out of a video game, and it's like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it just doesn't ever really serve the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fit with w E. I mean, the Butch thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the character he's playing makes sense. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>why did you have to rename him Butch? Why couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>he be I don't know. But then again, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a w w E slash F thing

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<v Speaker 1>since three since you know, forever. You know, actually even

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<v Speaker 1>before that. Look, people would go to work for Vince

0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.919
<v Speaker 1>McMahon's father and he would change their names. Hulk Hogan

0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 1>used not Terry Boulder. We wanted the Irish guy, so

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<v Speaker 1>it ended up being you know, whole Hogan. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is again, this is what they do. It's in their

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<v Speaker 1>DNA to do. It's just come a cup with some

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<v Speaker 1>better names that kind of fit, and yeah, roll off

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<v Speaker 1>the tongue and seem a little more marketable. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get back to the news in a second. I

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<v Speaker 1>just gotta tell the story real quick. So the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in California and uh we we went to uh

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<v Speaker 1>the Monterey Bay Aquarium, and then we went to eat

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<v Speaker 1>and there was just this little hole in the wall

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<v Speaker 1>place called American Burger, that's what it was called. And

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that worked there was Mexican, and uh they played

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican music. It was like the weirdest thing, but they

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<v Speaker 1>only and then they wanted chicken nuggets and they were

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same ones that we get from Costco, the

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<v Speaker 1>Dino nuggets, exactly the same. So I like the place,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's called American Burger, and so on all of

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<v Speaker 1>the walls there's like, you know, here's the Beatles, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's some you know, records and whatever like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>they got some antique stuff in there, and I said, uh, Paisley,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're done eating, I'm gonna go show you what

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<v Speaker 1>some of this stuff is. I'm gonna explain. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna explain to her what like a record was and

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<v Speaker 1>everything like that, because she just all she knows is, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to listen to Coca melon just played on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone. To know know what life was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. So we're looking around and and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a there's an old TV, a cathode ray TV,

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<v Speaker 1>the big square TV. And uh, I said, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that is right, and she looks at it. She goes

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<v Speaker 1>an oven, said, she goes, it's an oven. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a microwave oven. A television. She had no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>a television was, an old school of television. I video

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<v Speaker 1>I took a video of because it was just so preposterous.

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<v Speaker 1>I should put it on the internet. And Oven, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I don't even bother explaining the record after that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even know what a television is. Kid, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't explain a record. And she's she's young. Avery. We

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago went to the Mayflower Hotel

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<v Speaker 1>in d C. And they have a lot of nice,

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<v Speaker 1>really nice sitting areas in there. And in one part

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<v Speaker 1>of it, I took a picture because it's Avery on

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<v Speaker 1>his phone on his iPhone looking over at a rotary phone,

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<v Speaker 1>just completely baffled, just baffled, new was a phone, just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do here? Why are these letters? What

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<v Speaker 1>is going on here? And just had no clue on

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<v Speaker 1>how to work it showed him. It was like, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that makes sense now. But it's like, so let

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<v Speaker 1>me get this straight. You would click it and it

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<v Speaker 1>would make that yes, yes. And then his grandmother told

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<v Speaker 1>him about the you know back in the day of

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<v Speaker 1>k L M. Dash that was a phone number four

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<v Speaker 1>or five seven, and yeah, that really blew his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we're old, Brian, this is what's going on here,

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<v Speaker 1>Suttenham singed in an interview, and he said that he

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<v Speaker 1>chose to sign with a W over w w E

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<v Speaker 1>in order to make history for Indian wrestlers. In the promotion,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I had given trials for w w E

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<v Speaker 1>as well and I liked it very much as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I liked a W as well. A W is

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<v Speaker 1>brand new. It's only been a couple of years right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really fire. I thought that if I go

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<v Speaker 1>to a W I would be the first again first

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<v Speaker 1>wrestler from India. I will make another history for India

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<v Speaker 1>in a e W. He said, it would be amazing

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<v Speaker 1>to go to w w E, but they already have

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<v Speaker 1>Indian people over there, they have Indian wrestlers. Why don't

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I go start where? There are no Indian guys and

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<v Speaker 1>create history again after reaching there. So anyway, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>he chose to go there. And I talked about this

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 1>on the Brinon Van Show and Observer Radio last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, everyone hated his debut and the lights out

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.719
<v Speaker 1>and the fans are baffled, and you know, we had

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the people which wasn't It wasn't good, don't get me wrong,

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.639
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't the worst thing. Now, with that said,

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<v Speaker 1>on the Battle of the Belt show, after the Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Gresham match, Suttenham Sing showed up and he went down

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<v Speaker 1>to the ring and he beat up Gresham and he

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<v Speaker 1>beat up the boys. And I thought the guy, I

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<v Speaker 1>was impressed, not like he was he was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the bars low. I just saw Omas have a horrible

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<v Speaker 1>match at WrestleMania and everything like that. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>everything he did it looked good. Nothing looked bad. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to sell, which is like the big thing

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that these giants have a problem with. But like he looked,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, dominating, and he had charisma and he had

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<v Speaker 1>a personality, and I thought it was like a great

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 1>little segment there. So I don't know what everyone else thought,

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:06.919
<v Speaker 1>but I was very impressed with Sutton. I'm sinking back

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>in a moment. It was over life back in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike smber Vid

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<v Speaker 1>also Wrestling and debserver dot Com. This person here makes

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<v Speaker 1>a good point. He says in w w E the

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<v Speaker 1>names feel like two first names or two last names.

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<v Speaker 1>So it'd be like Mike Bryan Semper viv Alvarez that's

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>actually a good one, or Proper ver High. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Latin in there for that supper vv Alvarez.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, yeah that yes, way too often is

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that the case? When there's guys down there? What are there?

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>What is it? I mean? But it's like there's some genera.

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like Josh Briggs and what's the other guy's name? Jensen? Whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Where is Brigg? Josh Briggs and Brooks Jensen? Yeah, impossible

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.719
<v Speaker 1>except for one guy can't get a So I remember

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Brooks Jensen. That's how I remember Von Wagner. Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I like von Wagner. Don't know that one. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good one. Okay, that was see there like that one.

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 1>There's one I don't understand at all. Von Wagner yeah,

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 1>come on, is he Dutch? I mean, is it like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just Fallon Henley. Yep, that's a

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>good one too, Fallon Henley. Look, that sounds more like

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<v Speaker 1>a different line of business to me. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what this comes and I know you hate this. I

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>know we've done this before. Is that a WrestleMania main

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<v Speaker 1>event named Tatum Paxley? Can you see Tatum Paxley against

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Fallon Henley in the main event a Rustlemania? Actually possible?

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess this person here notes they renamed Casey to

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Katon a chance because of the American Ninja Warrior gimmick.

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Hannah is a weapon used by ninja's that's true. Actually,

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Classic wasn't acknowledge. We're gonna acknowledge her American Ninja Warrior past,

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<v Speaker 1>but not actually let her use the name she used

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<v Speaker 1>un American Ninja Warrior. Why don't they just put her

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<v Speaker 1>under a mask, in a full body suit and call

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<v Speaker 1>her the Ninja Warrior or something. I guess you could,

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<v Speaker 1>but they probably can't trademark Ninja Warrior. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna give somebody like, you know, the name,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's one of those like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Katana Sword if she was in an outfit or something

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 1>like that, it's like, you know, Ninja Mack, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the same when he takes the mask off

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just him. But when he's in the mask,

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 1>he's got the whole, all the gear on and everything.

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>He looks like a Ninja Mac. You know what I'm saying. Like,

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>that's another one of those names where it's like Katana Sword.

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>At least make it video game esque or something like that.

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. All right. Here's an interview that Tripleates

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<v Speaker 1>from the Athletic talking about n x T. He says

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>that the after transitioning n x T from the w

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.640
<v Speaker 1>W network to the USA Network, the pandemic changed their

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>focus in working in front of no fans and hurt

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>both the recruitment and training of talent for nearly two years.

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Then we said, said Hunter, all right, let's reboot it

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and go back to what we originally were. Some of

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>these people won't be ready for television, but we're gonna

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>put them on television. We believe the audience is invested

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>enough that the numbers might come down, but a core

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>group of them will stay, and now we're creating fresh

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>stars all the time. That's where we are now. The

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 1>numbers have stabilized, he said. The shift towards two point

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.199
<v Speaker 1>oh and more churn on the roster was something they

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>were already talking about, but then it happened to take

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 1>place at a period of time where I had to

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>leave it for a bit, he said. Build your own

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>versus recruit from the Indies. Said over time, you realize

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the NFL parts ways with up to five players a year,

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>which helps contribute to a larger pool of athletes from

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>which they can recruit, versus a smaller pool of Indian

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>talent where quote you've almost got to be someone with

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>nothing else going on, or you can't take no for

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>an answer and dig dig dig. If you take that

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>athlete pool and ten or five percent have big personalities,

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 1>that would be good for the business, you're talking about

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a talent pool that's a thousand times bigger than right now.

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>He admitted they were going to be some cases where

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>they will miss and realize they were wrong and not

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:29.360
<v Speaker 1>signing certain talent. But quote, at some point you'll want

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of the biggest promotion in the

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 1>world and you'll come back here. Well, I said, there

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>are numbers of trainees forced them to have more regimented

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>uh into whether they have a future in w w E.

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>In the past, you said they would give new talent

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>more time to figure things out. But in the current

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>day they will have a better gage after six months

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>on whether recruits will have an aptitude for pro wrestling,

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>where do you want to start picking this one apart? Okay,

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>more they will have a better gauge after six months

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>about other recruits will have an aptitude for pro six

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>months farmer nix he starts making an elsewhere. Lex City

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>likes it. Former Nixey talent have made it big elsewhere

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and are happy for them, equating it to when players

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>leave football teams and move to other teams. I like

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to think they came into us here. We taught them

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot, got them to a higher level where they

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>learned how to do television, how to be professionals, and

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>all of that to be successful there. At some point

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>they might come back with us, or they might never

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>because they don't fit our brand as well, and that

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>is okay. He said. He welcomes competition, saying it's great

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and makes everybody sharper. You get lazy. If you're all

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>there and everybody goes about their business the end of

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the day, it will make us better. We'll all be

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>better for it. All these things have forced us to

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>be in a better place right now now, Not that

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't have gotten there anyway, but we have done

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>it quicker in some manner. There's room for everybody to

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>do it. I just talking about competition. It's like saying

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the USFL or XFL is starting up in the NF

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>fell is panicking about market share, just going to increase

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>people's love for football. If you love football that much,

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you'll watch all of the football. It's great. But the

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>NFL is not sweating that. So really the only thing

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sit here and just like talk

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>about all of this. But he did have one line

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>which he just totally glossed over. He said, says, here

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic change their folks and working in front of

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>no fans hurt both the recruitment and training of talent

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>for nearly two years. Then we said, okay, let's reboot

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>it and go back to what we originally were in

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>any moves on mm hmm, Well, why did you make

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>that decision. The answer to why they made that decision,

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>by the way, is because I mean, it's there's a

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of reasons, but I mean, Vince just doesn't get it.

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>He does not get the modern style of professional wrestling.

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't get being small, he doesn't get doing high spots,

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.959
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get indeed, modern, he doesn't get any of that.

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>He knows what he knows, and what he knows is big,

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>good looking guys, hot women, colors, no clothe, and so

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>what he knows. And so, I mean, do you guys

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>remember an x T from like nineteen dude, it was awesome.

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:24.959
<v Speaker 1>All people talked about was his best thing in wrestling

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>was better anything on the main roster. But he didn't

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>like all that. He didn't like these guys. He didn't

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>get it. He would have the guys that were successful

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>in the main roster were like, you know, tall, good looking.

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was so, I mean, that's what happened.

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>None of that's mentioned here, just the generic line. Then

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>we said, okay, let's reboot it and go back to

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>what we originally were. And here we are. Let's just

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll get a whole bunch of of good looking athletes

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, in six months will know whether

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>they can be good wrestlers or not, We'll fire everybody

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>else and we'll just hiring more because, damn it, we

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>can teach anybody to do this. That's what that's where

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>we are right now. And for those of you that

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>don't understand why we watch n x T two point

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>oh every week, I mean, this is the biggest story

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>for the future of wrestling. We've got two companies. Okay,

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>one company is all about we want good wrestlers. We

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>want people who can do this job well, and we're

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna try to build a pro wresting promotion around it.

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>And then we've got the other company that's like, it

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if you can wrestle or not, doesn't matter

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>if you've ever done this. We can make anybody. We

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>can take anybody and make them you know, not all

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>of them, obviously, but we can take a hundred people

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and ten of them will have charisma and some athletic ability,

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and in six months, you know, we can have them

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>far enough along that you know, they can go on

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>on television and you know, eventually be WrestleMania main eventors.

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 1>This is a gigantic story. This is not just oh

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't like n x T and the show's dumb,

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and no, this is the entire future of this business,

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>two completely opposing viewpoints. I mean, maybe there's room in

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>this world for you know, two major progressing promotions that

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>do things entirely differently. Maybe one will win out. I

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>guess we'll wait and see. I think sanity is gonna

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>win out because you can only do this for so

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>long before you realize that of the hundred sheep that

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you got to teach to jump the fence, when of

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>them can't do it, and you do have that one

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that makes it over, and you're happy about them. But

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>then you see out in that field all those people

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>that for some reason, you don't like the color of

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that one, you don't like the height of that one,

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't like the age of that one. But but

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>all those people are are are fence jumpers. They can

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>all make it over. They're all good at what they do,

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>but you don't want to put in the time to, like,

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, make them stars. What they were doing on

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>n x T was just fine. The problem was once

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>they got to the main roster, and maybe Vincent a

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of other people didn't like hearing that. You know,

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you're not using these guys right, Why are you mischieved?

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Why are you changing their names? Why are you trying

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 1>to change what they are? You know, why is it

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the people who you released fault that you couldn't make

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 1>any of them stars? You know, Finn Balor was the

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>star for years, he was in I s. He was

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the star. He comes at the main roster and yeah,

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>injuries there was that he was the first Universal Champion.

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>There were some you know, things that happened that didn't

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>work out perfectly. But then you know, Damian Priest was

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 1>an untouched commodity. Damian Priests has been around the indies forever.

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Went to n next team, older guy. Nobody knows how

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>old Damian Priests really is. You know, he's he's older

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>than some of those dudes like in Austin theory. But

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>he hit it really well. He didn't know this guy

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>was pushing forty unless I told you he was pushing forty.

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>And he was a star. And he goes down next team.

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>He was a star there. He comes up to the

0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>main roster and what happens. He remains relative the untouched

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and when they really figure out something for him, to do.

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a complete mess. He looks like a goof and

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't worked. And we'll see what happens here with Edge.

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 1>But I don't have a whole lot of faith right now.

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>That's not the talent's fault. That's you, guys as fault.

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>And taking a Tiffany Stratton or somebody ice cold off

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>the street, teaching him how to work and bring him

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>up to the main roster isn't gonna fix that. It's

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>not going to fix that unless you actually realize that

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you need more than just one star in Roman Reigns

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and understand that you need to keep building some more.

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 1>They wait for somebody to trip over and fall into

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 1>their lap, like a brock Lesner or Likes or Roman

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Reigns or somebody like that, that they can build up

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and call themselves. There's as the one example of look

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.399
<v Speaker 1>what we did, see this is how we made it work,

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>when really it's the athletes. It's more special than anything,

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:53.359
<v Speaker 1>frankly that they're teaching them. By the way, there's other

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>stuff that I'm not going to even get into here

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>on the air, but there's so much in that thing

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to, it's just I'll us read this,

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 1>uh this text message and then uh, I'm sure some

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>of you can put two to get two together. Brian,

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>what is up with the Hulu version of n X

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Team not having the key to Lions? The last two

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>episodes didn't have her on it at all. This person

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>here says, and wait until they changed Tomasso Chump his

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>name to Tommy Carl actually hasn't say. I mean, I

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>guess he's still got his his last name. That's what

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>they that's what they will do. They wouldn't get rid

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>of They'll get rid of Tomasso first. We'll just be

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>chomp all big letters. That's it. This person here's like

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Count von Wagner related to Count MARKI von Core. Remember

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>that guy was Marquise, Yeah, I liked him and t

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 1>n a u um the cat or the Pounds? Who

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>was that Monty Brown? Yeah? I liked him. You c

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>w reeve it didn't do a whole lot for really

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.760
<v Speaker 1>anybody talking about a bunch of name changes that didn't

0:36:56.800 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>quite work out. According to Blam, the odds that our

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>truth misses up the wedding like he misses up town

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>names and the wrong people get married. That's actually an

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>awesome idea that actually would be great. I don't know

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>how the follow up would be. But if he accidentally

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>married the wrong people to each other, I like, I'm

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be very disappointed now if they don't do that.

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I know this is an old story, but that whole

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>thing where he screwed up the name but Green Bay

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>or Milwaukee? Wasn't he just goofing on the Snickers commercial

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and then everybody actually, no, he actually made a mistake.

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>He really did make a mistake, one mistake in his

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:38.359
<v Speaker 1>lifetime and now that's the rest of his life. They

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>why didn't they build that into the Snickers commercial? Then?

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe they didn't have that sponsorship back in

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the day. Make in a Moment with more Observer Live

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>at the show. Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live.

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Mike subervib also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Hey Dom plug

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 1>that cookie place that we had this weekend? Oh Insomnia cookies?

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Was that was that awesome? Or what? Dude? They're amazing.

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Ever since I found out there's one like ten minutes

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 1>away from here, my waistline has not treated me well. Well, yeah,

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I went to Byeline on Friday and dumb got cookies

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 1>for me and the youngsters. That's great, Tom, You gonna

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<v Speaker 1>send me a care package or what? Of course not

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<v Speaker 1>not after that break? Hey, Dom, how about that picture

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<v Speaker 1>we took together where I was a little bit behind

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<v Speaker 1>you and to the side, and so your head looked

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<v Speaker 1>like a buffalo head. I guess maybe flatter. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a better photo than the one we took in Seattle, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that I don't remember that one that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy that makes Brian to let to know

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<v Speaker 1>that he somehow centered you up and blocked you in

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<v Speaker 1>a photographed me. You look like you had a boot,

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<v Speaker 1>You idiot. I was just there yell at me. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>likes to blame everything on me, Tom, But as you're

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<v Speaker 1>well aware, it's never my fault. No, not not at all, No,

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous Jimmy Garvin, it's never your fault. It's never my fault. Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Later today we're interview, not interview. He's a co host

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<v Speaker 1>Filthy Tom Lawler. That'll be at uh. He's your champion

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<v Speaker 1>to Pacific for now, to Pacific five Eastern Filthy Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Lawlers Show, talk about SmackDown and some of the New

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<v Speaker 1>Japan show from this weekend I'll watch as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I can. And I think Tom watched a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>the Stardom Cinderella Tournament as well, so we'll get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's coming up this this afternoon. Everybody to

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, and I got plenty of time for more.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's it. Everybody thinks Mike has always colors and

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