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Speaker 1: let the score fool you.
Speaker 3: One fifteen to one oh eight.
Speaker 2: But when they emptied the benches, I think, if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken, they were down by like fifteen. But the
Speaker 2: Rockets did an unbelievable job. They got great performances. Fred
Speaker 2: van Fleet played forty minutes. He was six or nine
Speaker 2: from the three, nine or nine from the free throw line,
Speaker 2: twenty nine big points. Shungoon had twenty one and fourteen
Speaker 2: and six. He played outstanding. But Rob you know this,
Speaker 2: when you play on the road and you're trying to
Speaker 2: force a game seven, or you're trying to close out
Speaker 2: a series, you start your guys that you count on
Speaker 2: need to play well, but you need to get some
Speaker 2: production from somebody.
Speaker 3: You don't expect it now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the most points that
Speaker 2: Steven Adams has ever scored in the game. I know
Speaker 2: it's not the most rebound or the most blocks, but
Speaker 2: this might be the most impactful game that he's played
Speaker 2: his entire career. And he's played a lot of playoff
Speaker 2: basketball game. He's played a lot of games. But tonight
Speaker 2: I believe he was the difference maker because he got rebounds,
Speaker 2: he kept possessions alive, he blockshot. He changed it when
Speaker 2: they went to that big lineup with him and Shandon
Speaker 2: in there. That changed that changed it quite wrong.
Speaker 1: You know. The one thing you can't teach the size.
Speaker 1: And I say that all the time. You know, you
Speaker 1: just say your your favorite team just went down because
Speaker 1: they elected not to use their size. And when you
Speaker 1: got a small team those the State is a small
Speaker 1: team very and you know, and we know how strong
Speaker 1: Draymond is, but he ain't strong and Steven Allams and Stephens,
Speaker 1: he be carvering out that room, be grabbing rebounds, be
Speaker 1: pushing people out the way. He's an enforcement And you got, guys,
Speaker 1: if you look at this Rocket team outside of Dylan
Speaker 1: and ravershing done. They all little guys, and so you
Speaker 1: need protectors out there on that floor. And that's what
Speaker 1: Stephen Adam is. You know, you look at Josh. John's
Speaker 1: missing that right now. So you need a guy like that,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I mean you look, you look at it.
Speaker 1: And I thought Jabari Smith Jr.
Speaker 2: He made like two or three buckets with the shot
Speaker 2: clock winding down. He had two big threes. He were
Speaker 2: one stree. He got up off the floor. There was
Speaker 2: a scrabble for the ball. Brand Fleet gainst it and
Speaker 2: kicks it back. He gives up off the floor Hill.
Speaker 2: I thought it was Ray Allen for just a Second's
Speaker 2: not just kill of the game. But he gives up
Speaker 2: off the floor and he cans the three as Golden
Speaker 2: State was trying to make that move, trying to create
Speaker 2: a turnover. I thought the bench was out standing for
Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets tonight. I think they got thirty two
Speaker 2: thirty two big points, sixteen thirty three, thirty six big
Speaker 2: points from the bench. The guys played really well. The
Speaker 2: starters played well. Brooks got in fouled trouble and Adoka
Speaker 2: didn't didn't have a choice but to send him to
Speaker 2: the bench, But I thought their backup played extremely well.
Speaker 2: Your role players. You got what you expected from Van Fleet.
Speaker 2: Outside of that first two games, he's been light side
Speaker 2: rocked from the three point line. He's been going crazy,
Speaker 2: I mean crazy. And then you got shing Gooon. He's
Speaker 2: an All Star for a reason. He gave you that.
Speaker 2: And then you get Adams coming off the bench and
Speaker 2: giving you what he gave you. They got a lot
Speaker 2: of confidence because they won back to back games. They
Speaker 2: forced the game six. Now they forced the game seven.
Speaker 2: The Warriors have their work cut up for them. They
Speaker 2: went colding that fourth quarter of the start. They couldn't
Speaker 2: get anything to fall and lead. That was what three
Speaker 2: four points all of a sudden went to twelve and
Speaker 2: the Rockets didn't let off the gas and they didn't
Speaker 2: look back. Oh Joe Warriors. Yeah, I thought Steph had
Speaker 2: it gold. He got hot there for a second, him
Speaker 2: and Jimmy, But they didn't get enough from the auxillary players.
Speaker 3: Hey man, listen the Warriors. The stars showed up. That
Speaker 3: showed up. Obviously, we didn't. We didn't see the Steph
Speaker 3: Curry were used to seeing.
Speaker 4: Obviously, he had twenty nine points, but it took twenty
Speaker 4: three shots to get there. Jimmy Butler had twenty seven.
Speaker 4: But listen, some goom but young Bulls Special, Young Bullet
Speaker 4: Special and Van Fleet showed up the night and then
Speaker 4: what he needed to do at being the veteran presence
Speaker 4: that the Rockets do have. Listen, them young boys, them
Speaker 4: young bulls looked like they wanted it more. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: intensity they played on both both sides of the floor.
Speaker 3: Spacey was really good.
Speaker 4: And that goddamn Steven Adams Listen, he was probably the
Speaker 4: difference makeup when you when you talk about the size
Speaker 4: in which the Rockets have and how small, how small
Speaker 4: the Warriors are, I think it comes down to making
Speaker 4: more shots because those those those second those second what
Speaker 4: do you call it second when you get the second attempts? Yeah, bingo,
Speaker 4: that's that's what he's trying to say. That the second
Speaker 4: attempts that the Rockets had is the reason why they
Speaker 4: won the game. And obviously them playing with a little
Speaker 4: bit more fire, like they wanted a little bit more.
Speaker 4: Even though the experience of the Warriors who have been
Speaker 4: in positions like this before and had the experience with
Speaker 4: the dray Bonds, you know, the Jimmy butlers that it
Speaker 4: used to be in in playoff atmospheres. Them young bulls
Speaker 4: look like they wanted more and listen like you say,
Speaker 4: they got they they got their stuff cut out for
Speaker 4: him having to travel. Now they got to go the
Speaker 4: goddamn Houston and seal the deal.
Speaker 3: You gotta believe what they what they are. Never Rudy T.
Speaker 2: Never underestimate the heart of a champion. These rockets on
Speaker 2: the champions. But that's what Rudy T carting to play
Speaker 2: coin to praise and his stuff. I think the thing
Speaker 2: is that when they went to that big lineup, because
Speaker 2: Draymond is undersize, you can't play lonly because it gives
Speaker 2: you nothing on our fence. Post wasn't hitting any shots,
Speaker 2: so you can't play him. So you're really trying to say, Draymond,
Speaker 2: I need you to keep seven foot three hundred pounds
Speaker 2: Stephen Adams off the glass. I need you to keep
Speaker 2: six ten six eleven Shing Goon off the glass. You're
Speaker 2: asking too much, and you see they started to wear
Speaker 2: him down over and over over and over again. Second
Speaker 2: chance points. They did a great job of finan shing
Speaker 2: Goon in the high post and then guess what he
Speaker 2: takes one dribble, he drops it off to Steven Adams
Speaker 2: a dunk, or he drops it off he finds a
Speaker 2: A Thompson for a layup. He played extremely well tonight.
Speaker 2: I expected I expected Van Pleet because they got to
Speaker 2: do something with Van Pleet. They because he's walking in, shooting,
Speaker 2: shoot around, freeze. He's feeling that. It's that comfortable.
Speaker 1: You know. For me, I knew war was in trouble
Speaker 1: from jump because any time you change your lineup, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like a sign to the other team like, oh,
Speaker 1: we don't know what to do with you now.
Speaker 3: The rockets you.
Speaker 1: Know there when you're that young, anything can give you emotion,
Speaker 1: get the sparked and your energy. They are like, oh,
Speaker 1: we got him scared. And you think about this. They
Speaker 1: changed the line and then look what happened Jr. There
Speaker 1: because they wanted somebody to slow vamp feet down. Why
Speaker 1: you know they don't why change it because you just
Speaker 1: talked about offense. You know that's no offense right there.
Speaker 1: And then you got Buddy Hill. We all know Buddy
Speaker 1: Hill is not a defensive player.
Speaker 2: But the one thing that's that Kurr is gonna He's
Speaker 2: gonna do the same thing that JJ Redick did and
Speaker 2: by himself in the butt with it by not playing
Speaker 2: him coming here because you need size and you need
Speaker 2: athleticism go up against this this rocket leting because athletic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're gonna because you mad this dude. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. If you curse him out
Speaker 1: or something, he won't plan. But this is your third
Speaker 1: leading scorer on the team. He was his secondly go
Speaker 1: on the team until you got butt of the Butler.
Speaker 1: But now you're not playing them, so I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on right there. But that's gonna cost them
Speaker 1: in this series because now you don't get the Rockets
Speaker 1: all type of energy, and they gonna go back and
Speaker 1: probably win this series because you elect to do some
Speaker 1: dumb stuff like in game four, I mean Game five,
Speaker 1: game and tonight, you know, you know what I mean before.
Speaker 4: You go with I think what I think for the
Speaker 4: words obviously going into Game seven, what's going to have
Speaker 4: to happen regardless of what the Rockets do. I think
Speaker 4: it's gonna have to be Jimmy Butler and the it's
Speaker 4: going back to Curry. Curry findings to be a little
Speaker 4: bit more efficient from the field to overcome all the
Speaker 4: things that the Rockets do, whether they go big, whether
Speaker 4: they go small, the only thing to do is put
Speaker 4: the goddamn ball in this bucket and have more points
Speaker 4: and just hope, just hope. Whatever you can do, you got.
Speaker 4: You got to lean on Curry. That's only that's the
Speaker 4: only way. That's the only way Game seven going going into.
Speaker 4: I don't know what stadium it is, that the Rockets playing.
Speaker 3: In Houston, Toyota, Toyota. That's the only way it's gonna happen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think. I like what Yadoka did.
Speaker 2: He went to a zone and every time Steph got
Speaker 2: the ball, they trapped him. They said, Nah, Bron, I
Speaker 2: don't care if you. I don't care if you at
Speaker 2: the time, like we gonna get that ball out of
Speaker 2: your hands. Somebody else is going to be this. We
Speaker 2: don't believe in a moment like this here because you know,
Speaker 2: there's a difference between hitting shots in game one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 2: Because this is an opportunity for advance.
Speaker 3: And now you're gonna be like Ojo said, You're gonna.
Speaker 2: Have to rely a little bit more on Curry and
Speaker 2: Butler because a lot of these guys haven't been in
Speaker 2: moments like this, Draymond asked, But I'm not counting on
Speaker 2: Draymond to give me a whole bunch of points. I've
Speaker 2: counted on him to give me somewhere between four and
Speaker 2: eight points. He'll give you six seven rebounds, five six
Speaker 2: seven assists. That's what I'm expecting for him. But your
Speaker 2: production is gonna have to come from Jimmy Butler and
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, guys that have been in this moment.
Speaker 3: But I thought you don't. He did a great thing.
Speaker 3: He went to the zone.
Speaker 2: He said, look, do not get back picked, because they're
Speaker 2: gonna try to come and sit that backpick and have
Speaker 2: Curry floating. And they kept their eyes on them. They
Speaker 2: gave up a couple of you know what back door
Speaker 2: cuts because you know they got I got eyes on Steph.
Speaker 3: And guys snuck behind him.
Speaker 2: Draymond got one, Jimmy Butler got one couple of guys.
Speaker 3: But I give you that.
Speaker 2: The one thing I don't want to have happened is
Speaker 2: Steph Curry hit a couple of threes, and he hit
Speaker 2: a couple early, and he got the crowded to the game.
Speaker 2: I want to keep the crowd at bay as long
Speaker 2: as I possibly can, and then the longer you kept
Speaker 2: them at bay, and then come the fourth quarter, they
Speaker 2: couldn't buy a bucket. Steph had some great looks, Jimmy
Speaker 2: Butler had some great looks, and it just wouldn't go
Speaker 2: down for him.
Speaker 3: But hey, yeah, hey uncle, hey Rob.
Speaker 4: I mean you could probably attest to this, obviously being
Speaker 4: in that situation. I consider pressure situations obviously planning in
Speaker 4: the playoffs going into a game seven. But one of
Speaker 4: the things, just from me watching from the naked eye,
Speaker 4: took three things that the word can clean up. For One,
Speaker 4: the turnovers. They had sixteen turnovers a night. They filing,
Speaker 4: they had, god damn there thirty to thirty files. And
Speaker 4: then under pressure, let's say he make goes to the zone
Speaker 4: again in game seven, Relax, tighten up. Under pressure, relax
Speaker 4: and tiv to run your offense, to do things and
Speaker 4: a relax manner. And if they trapped, if if they trapped,
Speaker 4: curR every time to get the ball. Everybody else, including
Speaker 4: the supporting cast. You got to hit your shots. You
Speaker 4: got to hit your shots when it matters most, you know.
Speaker 1: See Steph gotta hit the shots. Two six to sixteen
Speaker 1: from three ain't gonna cut it, you know. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: know Steph is considered the best shoot they ever played
Speaker 1: his game.
Speaker 3: A lot of his threes to me were bad threes.
Speaker 1: I know we said, oh, that's not a bad three
Speaker 1: for Curry, but you can today was a bad threes.
Speaker 1: You can get off the ball because you can move
Speaker 1: so much and the Rockets is only gonna play.
Speaker 3: Defense for so long, you can get a better shot.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing about in the playoffs, And I'm
Speaker 1: always harping on you want to, okay, shot a good
Speaker 1: shot and a great shot. I know every time Steph
Speaker 1: touches the ball from anywhere in the gym, it's usually
Speaker 1: a somewhat great shot. But when you got the long
Speaker 1: defensive team like the Rockets, those turn into good shots,
Speaker 1: don'kay how great a shooting you are.
Speaker 3: And for me, that's one of the things they gotta do.
Speaker 1: And for me, Draymond got to keep his cool because
Speaker 1: you don't know the little anthics you do that as
Speaker 1: to as other teams spark too. And so for me,
Speaker 1: he going going into Houston, know they're gonna be boring him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get amped up he's gonna have to play
Speaker 1: under control. Jimmy Buck's gonna have to play under control.
Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to go back to they starting
Speaker 1: lineup because that's how that that's the rhythm they have.
Speaker 1: Because when you got a guy like Jimmy Butter who
Speaker 1: just came into your season and you change the lineup
Speaker 1: on him, that can affect him because now, okay, how
Speaker 1: do I play with this dude?
Speaker 3: I just learned how to play with this guy. It's
Speaker 3: little intricacies.
Speaker 1: Is like that that coaches don't think about that players
Speaker 1: need to know because I know, like I know what
Speaker 1: route you're gonna run on the quarterback, And that's what
Speaker 1: that think about that. Now Jimmy's out there being the
Speaker 1: quarterback and all of a sudden, you got a guy
Speaker 1: that's not gonna run to his point.
Speaker 3: Mean you know, it's like, okay, what I do now?
Speaker 3: It messes up the rhythm.
Speaker 4: So Nobby is gonna ask Rob obviously, listen, you can
Speaker 4: attest to this, especially the game situation like this, and
Speaker 4: you got an athletic player that can match up very
Speaker 4: well against the Rockets.
Speaker 3: Do you thin think Kurr plays coming of this game
Speaker 3: a little bit more being that he No, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think he's gonna play him at all. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that situation is, but it's been bad. You
Speaker 1: think about it since the three games left in the
Speaker 1: season he had, he played him, and he played him
Speaker 1: on the reason the other night because he needed someone.
Speaker 1: And you know, you think about if he didn't play
Speaker 1: him to night and then in garbage minutes to try
Speaker 1: to let him get some type of rhythm, he play
Speaker 1: in game seven.
Speaker 3: So you rather what does it? You know, despite he
Speaker 3: rather despite whatever situation.
Speaker 4: They got going on, you rather chance losing game seven
Speaker 4: based on what you saw tonight and not make the
Speaker 4: necessary changes to give you give your team the best
Speaker 4: chance to win.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I've been playing in regardless because you know, for me,
Speaker 1: when you that talent, that athletic, I know that you
Speaker 1: got to play him. Man, Because so many coaches get
Speaker 1: pissed off at players, they're like, oh, I'm gonna show you. No,
Speaker 1: you're showing yourself because you only hurt your team. And
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that's one of the mistakes
Speaker 1: that coaches make. You know it, It's just hard for
Speaker 1: me to found that you rather have your pride getting
Speaker 1: the way of you getting a dub and yeah, well
Speaker 1: it look, we've all played this more for a long time,
Speaker 1: and coaches would rather lose their way than win some
Speaker 1: other way. It's just the way, the truth, and the
Speaker 1: part of coaching is coaching. Sometimes you're like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do. But a really good coach saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, that ain't working.
Speaker 2: That wasn't my original plan, but let me try to
Speaker 2: find something else to go instead of being bullheaded. Well
Speaker 2: I said I wasn't gonna play this guy. Well I'm
Speaker 2: not playing this guy. Hey, it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna be a coach, you gotta be a
Speaker 2: coach at all time, and sometimes you have to swallow
Speaker 2: your pride as a player, as a coach, whatever the
Speaker 2: case may be, in order to get the victory. And
Speaker 2: I thought tonight, you know, yeah, I agree with you
Speaker 2: rob him changing the lineup, because even if you put
Speaker 2: when you put Peyton in, yeah you get defense, but
Speaker 2: the floor is not spaced as much as when you
Speaker 2: got Prositimic in there. So now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: the floor is a little bit more condensed. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: might get a little bit more on ball pressure with
Speaker 2: Van Fleet. But what you're giving up on the other
Speaker 2: end because you want as much space as you possibly
Speaker 2: can for your shooters, lack of step lack a Buddy Hill,
Speaker 2: like a zip pot zim Zimski.
Speaker 1: But now it's condensed Draymond. Draymond is not a thread
Speaker 1: that the'll give Drake.
Speaker 2: If you notice, like the last three games, Draymond tak
Speaker 2: the first shot, they'll give it.
Speaker 3: That three.
Speaker 2: You you're not gonna make enough of those to put
Speaker 2: fear ain't. Nobody will say, get a hand up, don't
Speaker 2: even worry about it. Let him have that, Let him
Speaker 2: have that shot. I'm not getting. I don't want open
Speaker 2: looks for Steph. I don't want open looks for Buddy
Speaker 2: Hill and Pozimski. But here's the thing. He gave you
Speaker 2: zero to nice So yeah, Buddy gave you nothing. You said,
Speaker 2: h Steph. I think the state will make Steph so dangerous.
Speaker 2: And how he gets the crowded it is when that
Speaker 2: he takes those shots from twenty five thirty feet away
Speaker 2: and it's a bad shot for everybody else, and it
Speaker 2: goes in. Not only does against the crowd going, it
Speaker 2: gets him going. So now he sees it goes in
Speaker 2: after he's taken a shot, and he can even goals
Speaker 2: out before the ball goes through the net.
Speaker 3: By you're in trouble. You and you're in trouble.
Speaker 2: That start happening because he feels it and now there
Speaker 2: is no bad shot. If he's see a couple of them,
Speaker 2: faiths go in. Rob Ain't no bad shot for the
Speaker 2: rest of the night. Yeah, but they'll go in. He's
Speaker 2: six and sixteen, yeah, yeah, yeah, he needed Look, well,
Speaker 2: you got great production from him and Jimmy Butler. Jimmy
Speaker 2: Butler twelve or fourteen for the free throw line. That's
Speaker 2: what Jimmy does. He's gonna put pressure on you. Now
Speaker 2: he's gonna attack.
Speaker 3: Uh. They needed one other player.
Speaker 2: Draymond gave him a buddy, gave him nothing GP the
Speaker 2: second game, gave him five points. That's not enough. I
Speaker 2: thought Moody. I thought Moody would get more minutes because
Speaker 2: he came in here's a big three. I thought Moody
Speaker 2: would get more minutes Rob than what he hasn't been
Speaker 2: to twenty minutes that he got twenty two.
Speaker 1: You know, it's weird because Moody has been playing very
Speaker 1: well in this series. You're thinking about you want a
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna give you twelve to thirteen points and
Speaker 1: is active like he is, and he hasn't gotten as
Speaker 1: much play as I thought he would. You know, for me,
Speaker 1: you want to start, keep him in the starting lineup,
Speaker 1: do something that let Buddy Hugh be coming off the
Speaker 1: bench all you keep coming off the bill off the bench.
Speaker 1: And it's just one of those things where Steph, yo,
Speaker 1: we know this is your arena, we know it's your league,
Speaker 1: but sometimes defer. You know, I play with a lot
Speaker 1: of grace and them ug Sometime they come out like, yo,
Speaker 1: if you knocking out of shots, I ain't taking those shots.
Speaker 3: You carry us. And that's one of the things that Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Butler's really good at too, because he can get it
Speaker 1: going and he would defer to other people. But that's
Speaker 1: the one thing about Steph though. Stephan is not a
Speaker 1: guy that really defers because he doesn't have to. But
Speaker 1: I think when he goes to Houston and now Houston
Speaker 1: crowd and he not knocking down them shots, he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to be a facilitator because he ain't gonna be of.
Speaker 3: Doing on his own.
Speaker 1: You know, people forget the Rockets or a defensive team
Speaker 1: because you.
Speaker 3: Got he made back there.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of guys that know how to
Speaker 1: play defense at long, the athletics, so you're going to
Speaker 1: have to share the basketball if they want to try
Speaker 1: to come back and win this series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Thompson who's long and athletic, Delan Brooks
Speaker 2: and one of the defensive stopper Easton Steven Adams.
Speaker 3: I mean, they got guys that can pressure the basketball.
Speaker 2: But if I'm doing everything I possibly can to not
Speaker 2: let stuff get going early in that game seven, that's
Speaker 2: the last thing I wanted to do. Have like ten
Speaker 2: to twelve points in the first quarter. Now he gets
Speaker 2: an extended rest for the second because you got to
Speaker 2: think about it to night. He played forty two minutes.
Speaker 2: Steps don't normally play those kind of minutes.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of minutes for a guy at his age.
Speaker 1: People don't people talking about Lebron. He runs because he's
Speaker 1: perpetual motion.
Speaker 2: He's not a guy that's taking a lot of break
Speaker 2: because he has to work. He's working to get his shot.
Speaker 2: So he's from sideline to the baseline to baseline.
Speaker 1: And then you forget it's not two games to rest days. No,
Speaker 1: he's lay off play. So he only got one day arrest,
Speaker 1: twenty four hours back on that court. So that's and
Speaker 1: then he got a fly yeah. Yeah, and it's a
Speaker 1: three hour flight maybe four because you might not take
Speaker 1: off a Francisco all that damn fog sometimes, so you.
Speaker 2: Can't get out of that. Fred van Fleet is, now,
Speaker 2: what'd you say? You said something?
Speaker 3: No, I was gonna say the good thing.
Speaker 4: The good thing about Steph the chances of him having
Speaker 4: a game like this like tonight where it takes him
Speaker 4: so many shots to even get to twenty nine, twenty seven,
Speaker 4: whatever the points he had, he ain't gonna ain't gonna
Speaker 4: double that. He's not gonna have another game like that.
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be much more efficient. Buddy Hill
Speaker 4: probably gonna be much better, and they probably gonna get
Speaker 4: Buddy Hill, Buddy Hill going early. And I really, for
Speaker 4: some reason, I don't know why, where Kerr really understanding.
Speaker 4: I'm sure Dremond and maybe Steph will probably talk to
Speaker 4: Kurr with great understanding.
Speaker 3: We need a little bit more help, we need a
Speaker 3: little bit more size.
Speaker 4: You know, you got to do something and get community
Speaker 4: in there some kind of way before we be sitting
Speaker 4: at home and god damn can.
Speaker 2: Coon I've had to rock out what they did for
Speaker 2: They put a lot of pressure on them. They shot
Speaker 2: forty six free throws, Bob, they shot forty six free throws.
Speaker 2: It's been a while since our team to see the
Speaker 2: team shoot forty six free throws. But sixteen of those
Speaker 2: with the Steven autos and a lot of that had
Speaker 2: to do it connected. They would hack Adams and you
Speaker 2: know Donald Stretch, he made them pay for that.
Speaker 3: He was mad.
Speaker 1: It's one of the things where you try that, you know,
Speaker 1: that's all that Pops Doug Mimry Pop did that against
Speaker 1: Shack and you know the hacker Shock. And you gotta
Speaker 1: think about some of these guys. You make one, you
Speaker 1: make two, you got to go away from it because
Speaker 1: that guy has a little real You know, sometime you
Speaker 1: want to trust the process. You talk about following your
Speaker 1: game plan. There's certain game plans you have to scrap.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Steven Adams is you know, you know she his free
Speaker 1: throw percentision might be bad, but the dude, you look
Speaker 1: at his form, the way he approaches it, everything is
Speaker 1: fundamentally sounds so he can knock him down. He just
Speaker 1: don't knock him down because he don't shoot it a lot.
Speaker 1: So it looked like a percentage. You're bad, right the Rockets,
Speaker 1: excuse me. The Warriors shot twenty two free throws. All
Speaker 1: of them came from three guys. Draymond was one for two,
Speaker 1: Jimmy was twelve or fourteen, and Steph was five or six.
Speaker 3: So that tells me they're not nearly aggressive enough.
Speaker 2: When you only got three guys to take your free
Speaker 2: throw attempts, that means But but the thing.
Speaker 1: Is, that's not that's what you tho. That's not that's
Speaker 1: what you get from a jump shooting team. When you
Speaker 1: shoot jump shots, you don't to the free throw line.
Speaker 1: And the thing about you know, you talk about analytics
Speaker 1: or basketball shooting threes. I've always had the mindset, if
Speaker 1: you're shooting the threes, you're playing soft. Why because you're
Speaker 1: not trying to create shots. You're not trying to get
Speaker 1: to the rack. So you're taking the easy way out.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna pull a full three. Think about that.
Speaker 1: If I pull up full three, that's easy. Now, if
Speaker 1: I had to cross on, use spin get to the rack.
Speaker 1: That's hard work. You think about a man, a man
Speaker 1: only he don't mind that work. You just saw he
Speaker 1: put in that work. And now you get to these
Speaker 1: guys wanna shoot jump shots. You're not gonna get to
Speaker 1: the file line. And the only reason Step gets those
Speaker 1: files sometimes because if you watch closely, he's causing the contact.
Speaker 3: He's really good at that.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I hate when he does that because
Speaker 1: a lot of times when he does it, he's not
Speaker 1: even concentrating on the shot.
Speaker 3: He's concentrating on the file.
Speaker 1: Just take the damn shot to make the shot if
Speaker 1: you get filed so bit.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, Rob, I got I just want to say
Speaker 4: one thing about you talk about Curry being able to
Speaker 4: put the ball on the floor and create his own
Speaker 4: space in his own shot. You mentioned Anthony Edwards, joh
Speaker 4: Moran can do it as well. But you have to
Speaker 4: think about it. When you look at the landscape of
Speaker 4: all the teams in the NBA, including those in the playoffs,
Speaker 4: it's only maybe one or two players on each team
Speaker 4: that can do that, that can go iceo, that can
Speaker 4: put the ball on the floor and create their own shots.
Speaker 3: So it's not that many of them. So once you
Speaker 3: take that.
Speaker 4: When you trap a player like a Curry and they
Speaker 4: have to facilitate, then now you've got to get everybody
Speaker 4: that's involved, and.
Speaker 3: It puts pressure on them that I didn't. I didn't know.
Speaker 4: There's still a game of basketball and everybody, like I'm
Speaker 4: told me before, everybody didn't have the green light to
Speaker 4: shoot the ball. That will Well, no, I just learned that.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, well, hell, if I'm open, just shoot. You
Speaker 4: learn that every.
Speaker 3: Head. That's why you have.
Speaker 1: They go play the percentage they gonna let you take
Speaker 1: that shot.
Speaker 3: You guard you. Yeah, I ain't ain't all that.
Speaker 2: Brad van Fleet last three games he had twenty nine points.
Speaker 2: He has six threes. Tonight twenty six points, four three,
Speaker 2: twenty five points eight May three. So his last his
Speaker 2: last three ball games, he's got eighteen mad threes, more
Speaker 2: points and threes than stuff he's been. Look, he's the
Speaker 2: veteran presence on this team. He's the guy that's been
Speaker 2: in championship moments. He's the guy who's been on that
Speaker 2: stage in the Eastern Conference where they were, you know,
Speaker 2: in the in the Eastern Conference finals, they went to
Speaker 2: a championship. They led Kawhi led them to an NBA title.
Speaker 2: He he's the guy. So this is what he needs
Speaker 2: to do. Hey, follow me, follow me. He's the leader.
Speaker 2: He did what he was supposed to do. He got
Speaker 2: great contribution from Shingoon. Now, Shanoon is the best player,
Speaker 2: but the veteran presidence the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah best, yes, better than yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: What did you talking? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Jaicular Greens only had one good game so far in
Speaker 1: his playoffs.
Speaker 3: Yes, he was.
Speaker 1: Three of eleven, one for six. He had twelve points.
Speaker 1: Shan God is an all.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm I'm just talking about I'm talking about you,
Speaker 4: I know, single in the All Star and I'm just
Speaker 4: saying Jayleen Green is supposed to be that next up
Speaker 4: and coming, that boy in Houston.
Speaker 3: Or am I mistaken?
Speaker 1: No, You're not mistaken. But we up we're talking about
Speaker 1: right now. We are talking about what you okayou yourtality
Speaker 1: is still the best player. Because he's rebounded, he's uh,
Speaker 1: he's going points, he's getting assists. Jalen Green is just
Speaker 1: a high flyer right now, and that's all he's lopping
Speaker 1: off of. He got to do more than try to
Speaker 1: you know, that's the one thing that but I've watched
Speaker 1: the NBA. Now there are so many guys that have
Speaker 1: become showman. Instead of playing the damn game. They want
Speaker 1: to do all these antis. When they hit a three,
Speaker 1: they want to you know, it's just play the damn game.
Speaker 1: You know, you make a damn shot, big damn deal.
Speaker 1: You know, you get back and play some DV. It's
Speaker 1: how many times have you seen a guy beat on
Speaker 1: the other end of the defense because they're doing this ship.
Speaker 1: Just get back and play. And that's one thing that
Speaker 1: that you watch Jay Jayleen Green, he plays. He has
Speaker 1: a tendency to like try to get to the whole
Speaker 1: look at the crowd. The next thing, you know, get
Speaker 1: your ass back on defense. So that's why Singoon he's
Speaker 1: just a hard worker man. He in that pain. He
Speaker 1: dunking on people. He can get people involved. He's the
Speaker 1: best player on that team. They thought it was.
Speaker 3: Gonna be Jalen Green. Yeah, Shin Gooon has taken over
Speaker 3: Shing Goon.
Speaker 2: He leads to rockets in points, rebounds, assists, and steals
Speaker 2: in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Jaylen Bronson game went over the Pistons. What a shot?
Speaker 3: What the moment?
Speaker 2: The next window series rob you one of the great
Speaker 2: clutch shot shooters.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: I think for our audience, they want to know in
Speaker 2: that moment, are you thinking, like, man, if I make
Speaker 2: this shot, him a hero if I miss it, or
Speaker 2: you just going through the It's the same whether the
Speaker 2: moment is there or not. It's just like if it
Speaker 2: was the first quarter, the second quarter, third quarter. What
Speaker 2: goes through your head when you're taking a shot that
Speaker 2: could potentially win you the game or lose you the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think about anything, man, because it's just like
Speaker 1: when you're in a gym, you're taking all these shots
Speaker 1: and prepare for this moment. He put the reps in
Speaker 1: and that's what you gotta do. That's why you see guys.
Speaker 1: You know you take Kobe fences. He's been a gym
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, so everything came easy. And if
Speaker 1: you put in the time and the work and the sacrifice,
Speaker 1: these moments like this, you don't even think about it.
Speaker 1: When you think about Daylon Brunston. Most guys they like
Speaker 1: going to their offhand to pull up for the jump
Speaker 1: shout because you can square up a little bit better.
Speaker 1: He got you going left, like you thought, oh, he's
Speaker 1: a strong left guy. He was setting them up, he said,
Speaker 1: jumpsing up. I'm coming right back over here to I
Speaker 1: want to knocked down this tree. So it's just it's
Speaker 1: just a process that you go through each and every day,
Speaker 1: and you watch him. He is so good at manipulating
Speaker 1: the defense. He can get you on your head and
Speaker 1: then he can cost the contact or he can get you.
Speaker 1: He can he can gauge your speed if you're going
Speaker 1: too fast, he stops on the diamond, pulls up, and
Speaker 1: I think for him and any any guy who's playing
Speaker 1: this game long enough, you don't think about it. You
Speaker 1: just do it. It's this second next, second nature thing
Speaker 1: to you. Man, You just you just enjoyed the moment
Speaker 1: and you just hope that you make that monch so
Speaker 1: you can talk a lot of shit.
Speaker 2: He does a great job rob as you mentioned, but
Speaker 2: he gets his body in such a position to shoot
Speaker 2: that shot because like you said, he's the left handed player,
Speaker 2: and most left handed players are left hand dominant.
Speaker 3: They're trying to get to that left side. They want
Speaker 3: to go left.
Speaker 2: He did that, and then if you notice, he stepped
Speaker 2: back and squared himself and let it go. He get
Speaker 2: a shrewter. He got an a one on shooter and
Speaker 2: he got a tough step back. He I mean the
Speaker 2: way he can like get his body in position to
Speaker 2: take and make tough shots for a guy his size,
Speaker 2: he is not a big guy. I mean his body
Speaker 2: of mean, you know what I'm saying. He's you know,
Speaker 2: he got a little little gird to him. You know
Speaker 2: he got some but he I mean what you think
Speaker 2: six foot I think he about six six.
Speaker 1: One hit that h but his ability and he's stronger
Speaker 1: than you think for a guy his size, because the.
Speaker 2: Way he can like put that that showed in your
Speaker 2: chest and get that shot off in the square and
Speaker 2: the knock be shots down.
Speaker 3: He was sensatial.
Speaker 2: They couldn't buy basket for the first nine ten minutes
Speaker 2: of the ball game, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: he said, man, just give me the ball. What y'all
Speaker 2: doing every shot that needed to be taken and made.
Speaker 2: Now they got a huge campend by Bridge and somebody
Speaker 2: missed the shot and they didn't block out and Bridges
Speaker 2: got the.
Speaker 3: Tip that tied it up.
Speaker 2: But you know, once they missed that shot, boy, y'
Speaker 2: y'all been to get this ball. Because Thompson had just
Speaker 2: made a great defensive playoff like two possessions earlier, he
Speaker 2: got a shot clock violation on the copy. He went
Speaker 2: to go up and he stripped him with the ball.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, Brusse, I got something for you. I
Speaker 2: got something for you.
Speaker 4: Hold that, but hold on, I got a question you
Speaker 4: for for for rob Man for you and Unk.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: As great as Jalen Brunson's was in this series, as
Speaker 4: great as he's been obviously being a very very clutch player. Hell,
Speaker 4: he's just one NBA cuss Player of the year, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: obviously showing this offensive prowes tonight with forty. Is there
Speaker 4: any chance y'all giving the and in this series against
Speaker 4: the Celtics any chance?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No. And the reason I say no is because when
Speaker 1: you look at the Celtics, they got six guys that
Speaker 1: can score. And every time I look at the Nicks,
Speaker 1: they remind me of Ai. You know, they got this
Speaker 1: one guy that does all the scoring and everybody else
Speaker 1: does two or three things really really good to make
Speaker 1: that pie hole. And do you take out Bridges, who
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players. When they use him and
Speaker 1: he's able to score, they're a totally different team. But
Speaker 1: I just think the Celtics has too much firepower. And
Speaker 1: one of the things they don't talk about with the
Speaker 1: Celtics is you look at them. They got four good
Speaker 1: defensive players out there in that court, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's and and and we don't talk about that because
Speaker 1: he's so caught up in all the threes they shoot.
Speaker 3: But you think about, you.
Speaker 1: Know, White, Holiday, even Brown, these guys are fucking good defenders.
Speaker 1: And so they got bodies to throw at Bronson a
Speaker 1: little short sail and so that's gonna be hard.
Speaker 3: And you know, going back to Bronston.
Speaker 1: The one thing that makes it really good is this
Speaker 1: is gonna sound really crazy, is left handed players are always,
Speaker 1: uh have that ability to get to the line and
Speaker 1: do things because you're not used to that. You hardly
Speaker 1: ever run across the left pendent player. You think about Mono,
Speaker 1: do you know we're gonna play with He was so
Speaker 1: good because you think he's about to do someone is
Speaker 1: right here, like, oh shit, he's left handed. And by
Speaker 1: the time you think about it, it's too late. And because
Speaker 1: it's just not what you use is uncommon. But I
Speaker 1: just think he I think the Knicks might win one
Speaker 1: game because they play hard. But I think overall, I
Speaker 1: just think the Celtic, Yeah, it's gonna be a gentleman,
Speaker 1: sweet man. I just think that if the Celtics stay healthy.
Speaker 1: You know they they've been getting a little banged up
Speaker 1: in there. But I just think the Celtics are too good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because when you look at it, think about what they go.
Speaker 1: They got Derrick White that can defend. They got Holiday
Speaker 1: that can find, they got JB that can defend. They
Speaker 1: got big A Horford that can defend, whose fingers can
Speaker 1: protect the paint. And then they bring Pritchard off the
Speaker 1: bench that can score. How that can call Cornett that
Speaker 1: can that can give you a little rebound. Me.
Speaker 2: Uh, they're loaded. You we know j T can defend
Speaker 2: if they have to, but he can score. J BE
Speaker 2: can score, Derrick White can score. They got scores, and
Speaker 2: they got defenders. So they're always going to have a
Speaker 2: bare minimum to quality defenders on the court at all times.
Speaker 2: And so when you have that, when you got two
Speaker 2: guys that can defend. But look what they start with.
Speaker 2: So if they start Holiday, you got Holiday, Derrick White,
Speaker 2: JP Al Horford.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm gonna tell you this, I liked the Nickson
Speaker 4: winning at least three games, winning three games. I got
Speaker 4: them winning three games. I mean, hey, raw, you want
Speaker 4: to you want to you want to best some on it.
Speaker 4: You want to throw a little throw ways on that.
Speaker 3: What do you want to? Bet? Said?
Speaker 1: Make it?
Speaker 4: Said, make it light to yourself. Bet fifty two hundred.
Speaker 4: That's very specific way, he said, Yeah, trying.
Speaker 3: I'm trying. I hold fifty two hundred. So I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to I'm trying to make it up some other
Speaker 3: kind of way. I'm trying to break you.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, of all the game winners
Speaker 2: that you hit, what's your favorite one?
Speaker 3: Uh, Lakers against against the Kings that.
Speaker 1: Game without a game and that was game four, Game four.
Speaker 1: You know we lose that game, we go down three
Speaker 1: to one. And the reason is my favorite because if
Speaker 1: you look at most of my game winners, they've all
Speaker 1: done on the road, and so this one was done
Speaker 1: at home and enjoy with the crowd.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 1: I grew up a huge Lakers fan, right, I grew
Speaker 1: up a big Magic Johnson fan.
Speaker 3: You know, you wouldn't never be and a Laker. You
Speaker 3: used to them chanting Kobe, Kobe or shot.
Speaker 1: You know, when you get a chance to knock down
Speaker 1: a big three and you get him chant your name
Speaker 1: like that. Man, it's the best feeling ever, I think
Speaker 1: for me, it's probably outside of Kobe's last game. Is
Speaker 1: the greatest moment in Stable Slash Crypto. And if you
Speaker 1: every time I see the shot from above and when
Speaker 1: I'm making and the crowd just jumps up and cheers,
Speaker 1: I get goose punts every time I see. You know,
Speaker 1: even though I love what I do in two thousand
Speaker 1: and five against the Pistons in Game five, when I
Speaker 1: lit the asses.
Speaker 3: Up, Yeah, that's the what I was That's what I
Speaker 3: was thinking. Yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, it's something you know, we as
Speaker 1: an athlete, we all got that ego, we all got
Speaker 1: that pride. You want to hit them fans chant your name.
Speaker 1: But I tell you what, I only have like one
Speaker 1: picture up. I don't even have that shot up in
Speaker 1: my house, but I do have the picture of me
Speaker 1: making that shot against the Pistols because I just like
Speaker 1: looking at the faces of the people in the crowd.
Speaker 3: You got some.
Speaker 1: People like you know, you got one guy him in
Speaker 1: the crowd, and it's like because he knew it was
Speaker 1: going in.
Speaker 2: People I don't know if people realize this, Rob, but
Speaker 2: before those black injuries, you are hot flower. You were
Speaker 2: doing I mean you were punching on folks.
Speaker 3: I mean you were on the top.
Speaker 1: People look at you and they're like, man, all he
Speaker 1: did was you threes no no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: When you came in.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what it is about them,
Speaker 2: the Alabama guys.
Speaker 3: You would been nice.
Speaker 2: All the guys had up the way up.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if.
Speaker 2: People realize that, but you wore a hot flower, a
Speaker 2: six teen guy that finished above the rim. And then
Speaker 2: you turned yourself. I think it was the back injury
Speaker 2: that you turned yourself in more of a shooter. You
Speaker 2: still could punch your folks, but not like you could
Speaker 2: when you first.
Speaker 1: Got Now it's so weird when you come in to
Speaker 1: lead funny stories. Like my middle son, he came to
Speaker 1: me one time, like, Daddy, you don't ever dunk anymore.
Speaker 3: You can't even dunk.
Speaker 1: And there's that one dunk in the playoffs against the
Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons that I dunked on real Pemilton while I
Speaker 1: took out outside the bank and I said, see your dad,
Speaker 1: I can still dunk.
Speaker 3: I just don't have to.
Speaker 1: But you know, the weird part about it is when
Speaker 1: I got to the Lakers, they was like, oh, we
Speaker 1: don't want you to, you know, they said, we need
Speaker 1: you just spot up. And the worst thing as an athlete,
Speaker 1: if any athletes listening, is don't let coaches limit to
Speaker 1: limit you in what you can do.
Speaker 3: And I think you know this day and age is
Speaker 3: a little bit different.
Speaker 1: Back then, it was a little bit more I need
Speaker 1: to do this, this and this, and so in my
Speaker 1: mind became, Okay, this is what they want me to do,
Speaker 1: spot up and shoot.
Speaker 3: Threes and all this concept.
Speaker 1: But I I showed my my my youngest son, Christian,
Speaker 1: who's that you said?
Speaker 3: Last?
Speaker 1: Let me show you something, man, Come sit down, And
Speaker 1: I showed them my highlights, I mean rockets when I
Speaker 1: used to dunk.
Speaker 3: He looked at me like, damn you had ups.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I just stopped doing it because they
Speaker 1: didn't want I didn't have room to do it because
Speaker 1: Shaq wasn't the damn way.
Speaker 3: That's dope. That's lie. Hey, ay, Rob.
Speaker 4: With some of those some of those clutch shots you hit,
Speaker 4: were you ever did you ever keep any of the.
Speaker 3: Balls, especially, I mean you got.
Speaker 4: Some really really really good moments, and for me, I
Speaker 4: would want to keep those. I would I personally want
Speaker 4: to keep those balls.
Speaker 3: And you know you don't have.
Speaker 1: Any, you know, I really I have.
Speaker 3: I have one.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have one from it's actually the Game seven
Speaker 1: ball against the Knicks.
Speaker 3: I have that.
Speaker 1: And the only reason I have that because I told
Speaker 1: the guy said, because the first two points of Game
Speaker 1: seven was me dunking on Batch and I was like, I.
Speaker 3: Wrote that ball.
Speaker 1: So I have that ball, and I wish I had
Speaker 1: the one I made against the Kings because ship if
Speaker 1: I lost it, if I betted you and lost, I
Speaker 1: just sell that and give me a lot of money
Speaker 1: to cover that.
Speaker 3: So I know Comfarens will love that ball. So hey, but.
Speaker 4: Speaking of you talking about balls and being able to
Speaker 4: sell the ball and get you a lot of money, Listen,
Speaker 4: I got a prize possession. That's what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to have it in closed in the case, right,
Speaker 4: uh huh. But I got the I got the game
Speaker 4: ball when Lebron hit his fiftieth point fifty thousand Yeah,
Speaker 4: like listen, fifty thousand points and that's something that you
Speaker 4: would think, you know, Yeah, so it's a fifty thousand
Speaker 4: point ball right now.
Speaker 3: He see fifty thousand point and Lebron signed the part.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I mean, if if I ever fallow a
Speaker 3: hard times, man, it's this hit gonna come in handy.
Speaker 2: Do you fallow a hard time to try to see
Speaker 2: that ball?
Speaker 3: You're gonna stay on hard times? Exactly? You? You might,
Speaker 3: you might real hard times. Greg with them to deal.
Speaker 2: Greg Papavic stepped out of the coach of the San
Speaker 2: Antonio Spurst Today Indy, a nearly three decade run that
Speaker 2: saw him lead the team to five championships. He's the
Speaker 2: all time winning his coach uh at NBA history, and
Speaker 2: he's a three time Coach of the Year, and he's
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame, won a gold medal, and he's
Speaker 2: inducted to the Basketball Hall of Fame. Rob, you played
Speaker 2: for Pop? What what was it about Pop that made
Speaker 2: him special? What was your what's going to be your
Speaker 2: lasting memory of playing for Pop?
Speaker 1: I think for me, it's just his how genuine he was,
Speaker 1: and you know he he was one of those coaches
Speaker 1: where he's one of those coaches where he had yelled
Speaker 1: at you and then take you to have some nochi
Speaker 1: and some wine, you know, his two favorite things. And
Speaker 1: for me, I think I tell this story all the time.
Speaker 1: The one thing that really made me fall in love
Speaker 1: with the.
Speaker 3: Guy was my daughter who passed away.
Speaker 1: Was really sick my last year with the Spurs, and
Speaker 1: she went into the hospital at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: season and he was like, don't don't come back until
Speaker 1: she's out of the hospital. And I sat in the
Speaker 1: hospital with her for like three weeks and then she
Speaker 1: probably go out of the hospital and I came back
Speaker 1: like a day after.
Speaker 3: He says, she out a hospital.
Speaker 1: Like yees, she got home like two days ago, he said,
Speaker 1: she and out of the woods. Yet get back, go
Speaker 1: back home. You know, we don't really need you right now.
Speaker 1: And I looked at him, like, are you trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of me on the slide? He said, no, Man,
Speaker 1: family first, you know, family first, And that's what That's
Speaker 1: how Pop always was. Man. You know, I just heard
Speaker 1: the day about the story of the martow Rows when
Speaker 1: his pops passed, and now it's like, and that goes
Speaker 1: to show you, you know, there's some things bigger than
Speaker 1: a freaking game, right, and Pop realized that, you know,
Speaker 1: he was always about you know, spending time with your family,
Speaker 1: doing what's important. And I remember even my last year,
Speaker 1: I went to him and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to ask a favor, like what I said,
Speaker 1: it's my last year. I said, can I and my
Speaker 1: son's on spring break. We're going on a road trip.
Speaker 1: Can I bring my son with me?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even ask me no question like that.
Speaker 1: He said, you know, it's it's just about the family.
Speaker 1: It's about doing things, and a lot of teams wouldn't
Speaker 1: let you do that. You know, it's because that members
Speaker 1: was remember the Lakers back and the day you say
Speaker 1: he can't get the flight back now was liability, you know,
Speaker 1: insurance thing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is this a flight hole? What?
Speaker 1: So? But pot was He's he was really really good
Speaker 1: about man, if it came down to your family, you
Speaker 1: do whatever it's necessary for your family. Everybody talking about
Speaker 1: the relationship that they had with Duncan because I think
Speaker 1: Duncan was the lynch pin because you could coach him
Speaker 1: Duncan hard, you can coach everybody else arm and Timmy
Speaker 1: was receptive.
Speaker 3: And that's what you have to Timmy.
Speaker 2: Timmy was one of these superstars that if you didn't
Speaker 2: watch the game, you would never know he was a superstar.
Speaker 2: He didn't dress like a superstar. Hell, I'm be showed up.
Speaker 2: What you pick up an M D P Trover with
Speaker 2: flip flopping shorts?
Speaker 1: So like.
Speaker 2: What Walder swing on George.
Speaker 3: Ball?
Speaker 1: Yeah, jeans choice? David Third like, hey, but that was Timmy?
Speaker 2: What was it about Coach Pop and Tim's relationship that
Speaker 2: made it so unique and special?
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna back this up a little bit
Speaker 1: because you really have to credit David Robinson, Okay, because
Speaker 1: you think about he had David Robinson when Tim came
Speaker 1: and David was like, Yo, this is what we do here,
Speaker 1: and Tim just follow suit. You know, Tim is just
Speaker 1: that type of guy. He doesn't say much. You can talk.
Speaker 1: If you talk about cars, he'll talk to you talk
Speaker 1: about video games. He'll talk to you talk about poker,
Speaker 1: those three things, and he'll talk about that.
Speaker 3: He ain't gonna really talk to you.
Speaker 1: For us, you know, we it took me a year
Speaker 1: just to get him. Said a couple of words to me,
Speaker 1: and but he is just a he. He is a
Speaker 1: type of guy who's really focused. We don't you know,
Speaker 1: we always talk about Kobe's worker. I think we talked about.
Speaker 1: But this dude was always in the gym shooting jump shots.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm always trying to get to perfect that
Speaker 1: bank shot.
Speaker 3: If you know.
Speaker 1: He was famous for shooting a lot of free throws
Speaker 1: because you know, that was one of.
Speaker 3: His down when he came in. Yeah, and he just
Speaker 3: he worked hard.
Speaker 1: But he was just he if you talk about guys
Speaker 1: who you know, I used to. I had to get
Speaker 1: on to him one time, like, dude, can you fucking
Speaker 1: yell at somebody? Man, you sitting up there like with
Speaker 1: your mouth closed, you know, you yell at someone, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, yeah, fucking everybody's gonna perk up and listen.
Speaker 1: So he was just he was very mild man anyways,
Speaker 1: mild mind. He didn't want to say much. But the
Speaker 1: guy was he competed and he he was and when
Speaker 1: he when he let you into his world, one of
Speaker 1: the nicest guys you'll meet.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the Twin Towers because David Robinson was there,
Speaker 2: but when David was, I mean they won them championship
Speaker 2: with David, but David was on the tail end of
Speaker 2: his career. That was that was I mean, basically Tim
Speaker 2: Dunkett team from the time he walked in the door,
Speaker 2: it was he was just that good. And he was
Speaker 2: one of the last guys that was a true senior
Speaker 2: that was the number one overall. Kenya Martin was the
Speaker 2: last one, I think in two thousand, but Timmy was
Speaker 2: what ninety eight.
Speaker 3: I think the ninety eight draft was Timmy's first year.
Speaker 2: But he was the last, the last of those guys
Speaker 2: that went four years of college and came out. So
Speaker 2: he was more than ready, more than prepared for the
Speaker 2: grind because basically he was a grown man when he
Speaker 2: wasn't eighteen, he wasn't seventeen. Tim Dunckant was a twenty
Speaker 2: two year old grown man when he got.
Speaker 3: To the NBA. You tell me something I did not know.
Speaker 3: I thought he came out earlier.
Speaker 1: You just so you see everybody coming up earlier, you know,
Speaker 1: thinking about and that's the one thing I hate about
Speaker 1: the NBA.
Speaker 3: I know, these dududes.
Speaker 1: Are freaking twenty one when they get to college now,
Speaker 1: but I just wish that that that that I was
Speaker 1: about to say David Stern that Adam Silver put like
Speaker 1: two years onto it. Because these guys, you can tell
Speaker 1: by the way these guys play. Now, that's why so
Speaker 1: many threes are being shot because they don't know how
Speaker 1: to play. They're doing what's easy. It's taking the threes
Speaker 1: and there learning the game. You know, you got some
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna come in the league that know
Speaker 1: how to play the game because of the upbringing and
Speaker 1: how they would talk.
Speaker 3: But it's just it's just it's just a lot.
Speaker 1: Of bad basketball being played because guys don't know how
Speaker 1: to play. You know, do you think about tonight washing
Speaker 1: the game? Like, dude, the first thing you learned in
Speaker 1: high school and college is how to beat the damn zone.
Speaker 3: The zone is the easiest freaking thing to beat. And
Speaker 3: you can't beat the zone.
Speaker 1: It's like go to the Oprah spots, go to the
Speaker 1: Dunker spot, go back door. And it just shows you
Speaker 1: right there that the guys aren't learning anything because they
Speaker 1: all just trying to, you know, get to the next
Speaker 1: level to the league without learning something. M Rob, you
Speaker 1: played with some of the greats. I mean, you was
Speaker 1: on team with him, Duncan. You was on a team
Speaker 1: with Shaq and Kobe. You're on the King with a
Speaker 1: lot Dream and Drexler, And I know people ask you
Speaker 1: what the difference between Dream and Duncan, the difference between
Speaker 1: Duncan and Shaq, the difference between Clyde and Kobe. What
Speaker 1: are some of the different look because look, all of
Speaker 1: those guys that I just mentioned are all the seventy
Speaker 1: five greatest players in the NBA.
Speaker 2: History, MVP's Finals, MVPs, Defensive Players of the Year. When
Speaker 2: you got when you got to the Rockets, what was
Speaker 2: it about the Dream that you know, okay and this
Speaker 2: gout special?
Speaker 3: What set him apart? Shit?
Speaker 1: I knew he was special when I watched him in
Speaker 1: high school in college because when I was coming.
Speaker 3: Out, I want to play alongside this guy.
Speaker 1: You know, I was praying that I went to the
Speaker 1: Rockets and the guy was and I did because you
Speaker 1: could just see his work ethic, you know, you watch him.
Speaker 1: You know, guys always talking about going into the lab.
Speaker 1: Dream would be in the lab and we didn't even
Speaker 1: know it. He would be working on stuff and then
Speaker 1: he'll just all of a sudden in the game. You know,
Speaker 1: you think about ninety five high annihilated David Robinson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he said they took the game. Yeah, all that
Speaker 1: stuff we had never seen before. You should have seen
Speaker 1: us on the court. We're going like, oh, he became
Speaker 1: fans on the court, right, and so he just and
Speaker 1: you watch him, man, he just played hard. Man you
Speaker 1: think about you know, back in the day when he
Speaker 1: you forget, he used to knock some people out too.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know he had that toughness. You know,
Speaker 3: you l on him.
Speaker 1: He was he was because only a fifty dollars fires,
Speaker 1: you know, push him in the face, and so he
Speaker 1: had that toughness and he just had that.
Speaker 3: The one thing about Dream though, is.
Speaker 1: We talk about how hard guys plays, like how hard
Speaker 1: Yannis plays.
Speaker 3: How hard Bronze and place, how hard he's got.
Speaker 1: Dream played hard each and every night, and you know,
Speaker 1: people would talk about who's the greatest center, who's this?
Speaker 3: Who is that?
Speaker 1: Dream to me is always gonna be top three centers
Speaker 1: because if he needed to shoot threes, he could have
Speaker 1: shot threes. He didn't because he had us out there
Speaker 1: and you couldn't stop him in the paint any damn way.
Speaker 3: So he's just gonna kill you that with you. So
Speaker 3: he was just you know, he was just.
Speaker 1: A hard worker and the more important great guy because
Speaker 1: he taught me about the business of basketball.
Speaker 3: He was like yo.
Speaker 1: I remember one time at a Christmas part he took
Speaker 1: me outside and said, listen, listen, you're gonna be on
Speaker 1: this team. Now, let's talk about, you know, things outside
Speaker 1: of basketball. What you're doing with your money. You know,
Speaker 1: how's the family? You know, are you investing? Do you
Speaker 1: have the right people? He was just a good guy.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of guys now you know they
Speaker 1: won't They won't come to you and be like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: you need to check your findance.
Speaker 3: You need to do this. They like, fuck you.
Speaker 1: I learned it on my own, you know, and so
Speaker 1: I just that's one of the things I loved about dreams.
Speaker 1: He taught me about the business of basketball. So you
Speaker 1: leave Houston and you go to the let well you
Speaker 1: know you have you didn't gonna right and go there.
Speaker 3: Man, you got to talk about the signs.
Speaker 2: Mantle you have a little Piers started saying it and
Speaker 2: feed it. You have a couple of coffee at the airport,
Speaker 2: got right back on the plane and went to l A.
Speaker 3: So you get to l a shock.
Speaker 2: And Kobe mm hmmm, You're like, damn, got SHOQ, Got Kobe?
Speaker 2: What what what y'all.
Speaker 3: Need to be to do? Yeah. You know what's weird.
Speaker 1: When I got there, man, I'm looking at the team.
Speaker 1: We had Nick ban X at the point. Yep, we
Speaker 1: had Eddie Jones at the two. I said, okay, I
Speaker 1: can play the three. You know, back then I was
Speaker 1: a three man. And I said, we got a young
Speaker 1: guy like this. You know, everybody's like, oh, you got
Speaker 1: to see this rookie Kobe Bryan. I'm like, who. And
Speaker 1: then you can get to the practice. You see how
Speaker 1: good this dude is. Okay, he's learning, and then you
Speaker 1: got shocked, you know, you say, okay, Shaq just got
Speaker 1: beaten ninety five in the finals, and you got all
Speaker 1: this talent. I said, oh man, we about to do
Speaker 1: some work. And so we're gonna do some work for
Speaker 1: some years. Because everybody's young, everybody's on a thirty. But
Speaker 1: sometimes it goes to show you too many cooks in
Speaker 1: the kitchen when it comes to basketball ain't good. You
Speaker 1: gotta have some guys that are blue guys, some screw guys,
Speaker 1: you know, some boats and and do the things to
Speaker 1: keep the team together. And you think about we had
Speaker 1: four All Stars and then we got swept by a
Speaker 1: damn team that has been together for thirty years.
Speaker 3: That was Kobe's rookie year, wasn't it. That was Kobe's
Speaker 3: rookie year. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: And then and then and then ninety nine, you know,
Speaker 1: we got beat We got beat by the Spurs, lost
Speaker 1: the last game in the form to the Spurs. And
Speaker 1: then that was when we got new coaches, and we
Speaker 1: said we got rid of Nick, we got rid of Eddie,
Speaker 1: and we bought in defensive minded people. You know. He
Speaker 1: brought in Ron Harper, We bought in b Shaw, we
Speaker 1: bought in Rick Fox.
Speaker 3: We did all these things. Brought in a C. Green
Speaker 3: and it was that glue who was whole.
Speaker 2: Grant did a whole great only came.
Speaker 3: For the last hope.
Speaker 1: Grant was on the second champion in two thousand and
Speaker 1: two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, so, and it was just weird, man.
Speaker 1: You just and it goes to show you when you
Speaker 1: got too much talent, but when you got when you
Speaker 1: got enough talent and you got guys who mature, and
Speaker 1: you can you can tell Kobe and Shot to shut
Speaker 1: up and sit you ass down and do what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do. They gonna they gonna, you think about it.
Speaker 1: We used to tell Kobe, all, dude, you ain't doing
Speaker 1: that at night a Shack, you ain't doing that.
Speaker 3: And they would listen to us because we are veteran guys.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Now you got this going on.
Speaker 1: Guy, you know, respect us and we had a lot
Speaker 1: of respect for one another, and it was no animosity.
Speaker 1: And people always ask me about the Kobe Shaq thing.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I must have been fucking blinded
Speaker 1: because they never had beef in front of us. It
Speaker 1: was all in the papers man, you know, And that
Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing. When people like, we'll talk about it,
Speaker 1: I'm like they in the locker room, laughing and joking.
Speaker 1: They the first people to hug after a championship. I know.
Speaker 1: You tell me you you want a championship. Who was
Speaker 1: the first person you honged, you hugged after you want
Speaker 1: to Champion's probably your favorite player.
Speaker 3: On the team.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so that's why I was like, men arriving says, oh,
Speaker 1: they're decent.
Speaker 3: I'm like, when where? So it was just weird to me.
Speaker 3: How cool with Shaq?
Speaker 2: You look at Shack and I tell people I would
Speaker 2: pay people realize how athletic Shock was. When Shaq got
Speaker 2: to the league, like Shaq first five or six years
Speaker 2: when Shaq was like seven one three twenty five and
Speaker 2: can move like a dear. We're never going to see
Speaker 2: that again. Yeah, you never got your size with that
Speaker 2: kind ofigility. You're just not Now. You might have like
Speaker 2: Yoga's got the footwork and Joel of me got footwork,
Speaker 2: but I'm talking about your raw athleticism and power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna again. Never, yeah, never.
Speaker 1: You know, you think about if he always tell if
Speaker 1: you start a team, if I could take the two thousand,
Speaker 1: the nineteen nine nine, two thousand shock, the MVP shack
Speaker 1: and have him that shack and put him on, that's
Speaker 1: my first person, Not Jordan, not Dream, not Kareem. That's
Speaker 1: the first person I'm picked to start my mind, if
Speaker 1: I can get that shack because he was just so dominant,
Speaker 1: he was just so strong, so athletic.
Speaker 3: You thinking about this, this guy can bring.
Speaker 1: The ball down, cross your spin, take from outside the paint,
Speaker 1: then monkey dunck on your ass and then you can
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 3: You know, And.
Speaker 1: You go back and look at a lot of tape
Speaker 1: and I've heard this out of Reugh mouth, so I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there. You can hear all you is on him
Speaker 1: and he's not getting the call. He's like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: too big, he should be able to handle that. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: it's a freaking file. He's slapping his show. Y'all say
Speaker 1: all right, y'all gonna piss him off, and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get out of the way cause hes gonna start
Speaker 1: elbowing people. And you can tell when he got frustrated,
Speaker 1: cause he'll do that spin. He don't care who I'm like,
Speaker 1: so yeah he was. He was like I said, if
Speaker 1: you got one player, one moment, I'm taking nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 1: two thousand shock and I'm starting the team with that guy.
Speaker 2: If I can get that guy each and every night, okay, Kobe, Kobe.
Speaker 2: If a seventeen, he gets there seventeen. Now by the
Speaker 2: time they start to win championships, he's the Kobe. He's
Speaker 2: he's become what he became, and you get to see
Speaker 2: it on full display. He can still elevate over the top.
Speaker 2: He got the minute he could up. Oh he had
Speaker 2: he had the package. And if you need him to
Speaker 2: sit in the chair for forty minutes and take the polling
Speaker 2: team's point two.
Speaker 1: And three best player and he wanted that challenge. And
Speaker 1: you know, you, you know, I know you think Lebron
Speaker 1: is the greatest of all time. And you people talk about, uh,
Speaker 1: MJ been the greatest of all time. Why don't you
Speaker 1: think you when you watch Kobe Bryant, he did every
Speaker 1: freaking thing like MJ. And he probably took it to
Speaker 1: another level because Kobe. You know, when Kobe first came
Speaker 1: in the league, we used to laugh and joke him
Speaker 1: like you can't shoot threes?
Speaker 3: He just shoot threes like MJ. But he we would
Speaker 3: like joke with him.
Speaker 1: So that dude been in the gym every morning at
Speaker 1: five o'clock shooting number threes and now he can shoot threes.
Speaker 1: And it's things like that that why he was great.
Speaker 1: You could tell him he was not good at something,
Speaker 1: he would prove you wrong by going and working on
Speaker 1: it and added to his game. This dude, you know,
Speaker 1: God rest his soul. Was the hardest working dude I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. And you think about where
Speaker 1: he went from his rookie year where he just played Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he didn't have no structure to his game
Speaker 1: to understanding that, Oh, I got to tone this down
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's because he talked to MJ,
Speaker 1: he talked to Field and whatnot. But when he got filled,
Speaker 1: it made him more structure than I've ever seen before.
Speaker 1: So the dude was just phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: So I hate when we talk about the goat and
Speaker 1: we never bring him up like because it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: to me, the.
Speaker 3: Goats are.
Speaker 1: MJ, Kobe, Lebron, and Kareem. Those are the goats. And
Speaker 1: why do we have to put one, one, two, one,
Speaker 1: three and four? Those four guys right there? Why Gay camps?
Speaker 1: Just four ghosts? That's the mount rushmore right there?
Speaker 2: Why why didn't playing on that team alongside Shaq and Kobe?
Speaker 3: Why didn't they win more individual MVPs?
Speaker 2: Kobe didn't win one until later late like two thousand
Speaker 2: and one, I think two thousand and nine to twenty and.
Speaker 3: Ten, he won the MVP.
Speaker 2: Why didn't they win if Why didn't Shaq win more MVPs?
Speaker 2: Why didn't Kobe win MVPs? Did they cancel each other out?
Speaker 3: I don't think they counted each other.
Speaker 1: I just think you know, if you if you look
Speaker 1: at the league back then, it was hard to win
Speaker 1: back to backs unless she was a white guy.
Speaker 3: I mean Steve Nash.
Speaker 1: And so you know, you think about that second Steve
Speaker 1: Nash have it for real though.
Speaker 3: So it's so many things you can look at it.
Speaker 3: It's just weird. You know. You think about MJ when
Speaker 3: he was in the league.
Speaker 1: He didn't win it every year, you know, it's always
Speaker 1: someone different. And like you think about this year, even
Speaker 1: though Jokic is having the best freaking career, best year
Speaker 1: of his career, he.
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna Wina, you know, and and and it's just
Speaker 3: how they do it.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why, but I think Kobe should
Speaker 1: have probably run at least three.
Speaker 3: Shack should run at least that's just actually won at
Speaker 3: least two.
Speaker 1: You know, I think I say, the year he wanted
Speaker 1: he should have won it, and then the following.
Speaker 3: Year he should have won it. Okay, you know.
Speaker 1: Other than that, I think, you know, because you think
Speaker 1: about his third our third championship, he wasn't as dominant
Speaker 1: as he was. He was still effective, he just didn't
Speaker 1: bring that you think about it, he wasn't the Shack
Speaker 1: before that, and that's what they based off. They always say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take your last year. What did you do
Speaker 1: better than that year. And I think he was just consistent.
Speaker 1: He never like went up a little bit to another level.
Speaker 2: Uh, Jim Duncan. Yeah, Tim Duncan had one of the
Speaker 2: great games. He had a damn near quadruple double. He
Speaker 2: was two blocks away from a quadruple double in an
Speaker 2: NBA Finals game when he played when he played the Nets,
Speaker 2: uh that year, I think he had twenty one points,
Speaker 2: twenty rebound hit, a fists and eight blocks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's a nets man in this We had
Speaker 3: just swear and just swept.
Speaker 1: The next year before that or whatever it wasn't next
Speaker 1: was like, you know, poor poor Jason, Richard Jefferson, that crew.
Speaker 1: You know, you were the beast in the East. But
Speaker 1: when it came to playing teams used to wear it.
Speaker 1: You was just like you like the legs and the clippers,
Speaker 1: just a little brother. So it was it was they
Speaker 1: made it a good challenge. But you go back and
Speaker 1: look at the East. Back then East was terrible man
Speaker 1: and so but Tim Duncan though, that goes to show
Speaker 1: you when he wants to take over, he can take
Speaker 1: over man. He and and the one thing I like
Speaker 1: about Tim when he comes to blocking shots, he didn't
Speaker 1: care if you dunked him. He's like, shit, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't know have social media. I don't care what
Speaker 1: you say. You know, people in San Antonio gonna still
Speaker 1: bow down to me. And you know most guys were
Speaker 1: shop away from trying to, you know, go up against
Speaker 1: the venice car think you might get dunked on. They're like, no,
Speaker 1: I ain't challenging that. Tim didn't give a shit. He
Speaker 1: would try to challenge you anywhere to block it because
Speaker 1: he knew nine times out of ten he was gonna
Speaker 1: block it.
Speaker 3: It's gonna start a fast break.
Speaker 2: All right, your Mount Rushmore teammates. You get four teammates
Speaker 2: on on Mitt Rushmore. Who you going with?
Speaker 3: Dream Shaq, Kobe Clyde.
Speaker 2: Damn, you ain't cloud over Timmy.
Speaker 1: You know what this is the one other things you know,
Speaker 1: I love Timmy. I'm going with Clyde. Clyde, my boy man.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes personal feelings get in the way. So hey,
Speaker 1: I'm doing to Steve Kurr right now. Hey, But you know,
Speaker 1: people don't. I think people forget how good Clyde was.
Speaker 2: I mean, he come, he took a kind of a
Speaker 2: backseat roll when he got to Houston. But but but Clyde, Clyde,
Speaker 2: I remember, hell, I remember what he was dunking on
Speaker 2: everybody at five Slamma Jaman in the.
Speaker 1: University of Houston. But he used to Clyde used to elevate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And another reason I ain't put Tim in that because
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, I'm Washington Hall of Fame ceremony
Speaker 1: and watch Rudy T getting inducted. And then when Rudy
Speaker 1: T gave me a shout out for the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame and they're paying through the crowd, and Tim then clapped.
Speaker 1: So that's why I ain't on my right because I
Speaker 1: just got I thought it comes to motherfucker, I saved.
Speaker 1: You don't answer two thousand.
Speaker 3: And five excuse about life like you better get your
Speaker 3: hands up and clap.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: They Spurns got some cap space.
Speaker 3: They got it. They got to night Day.
Speaker 2: They got Stefan Castle's Rookie of the Year. Wimby was
Speaker 2: the previous rookie of the year. They got do they
Speaker 2: would you make the move for y honest? Would you
Speaker 2: try to package some pieces for y? Honis that's the
Speaker 2: thing you got? You forgot about Darren Fox?
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: That's that's hard to say. I would because you can't
Speaker 1: pass them. Oh, I think that's gonna be the hottest
Speaker 1: commanded this summer. Everybody's going wrong with the great treat
Speaker 1: because he's that type of player. You know, I missed
Speaker 1: him really how hard he played. So this is gonna
Speaker 1: be really interesting to see where he goes. If Milwaukee
Speaker 1: want to give him up. But if I'm the if
Speaker 1: I'm the Spurs, we got the cast space to why
Speaker 1: not go after him because you know he'll love it
Speaker 1: there because he got a good The one thing about
Speaker 1: the Spurs franchise is a good franchise. They're very humble
Speaker 1: franchised and you don't have to worry about a lot
Speaker 1: of outside No. If you think about in La, in
Speaker 1: the Chicago, New York, there's a lot of outside knowing.
Speaker 1: So you being in Milwaukee are used to the outside. No,
Speaker 1: it's been at a minimum. So if you go to
Speaker 1: the Spurs, you in the same thing. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if he wants that. I don't know if he wants,
Speaker 1: you know, be more. You know, I can't get no
Speaker 1: more notable as Greek freak. But does he want a
Speaker 1: bigger market? That's why it boils down. He wants that market.
Speaker 4: It boils down to a bigger market. I haven't talked
Speaker 4: to Greek freak, but I talked to the powers that be.
Speaker 4: We're gonna do everything we can to get him down
Speaker 4: here in Miami.
Speaker 3: I'm told. I'm told that already.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure why he continues to add that question. Hey, Rob,
Speaker 4: I've sat down with Mickey Harrison. I sat down with
Speaker 4: pat Riley. Patts is willing to change some of his
Speaker 4: ways and and let the reins go a little bit
Speaker 4: on the way he conducts himself and to.
Speaker 3: Come to to the entity that is known as the
Speaker 3: Miami Heat. So uh, and we also wanna get John
Speaker 3: wrong too. They don't want that dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just telling you, telling you he would fit
Speaker 1: in great in Miami. But you're gonna have to give up,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot to get him to Miami. That's fine,
Speaker 1: That's that's fine.
Speaker 3: We want to get it. But if you give up stuff,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be right where the Phoenix Suns are. You
Speaker 3: give up all that.
Speaker 1: You got three guys making one hundred and fifty million,
Speaker 1: but your bench sucks. Yeah, left the nuggets. He went
Speaker 1: to the next but what he wanted to play with.
Speaker 1: They ended up going to going to Denver, and then
Speaker 1: you had to trade those draft picks. So now you there,
Speaker 1: you basically by yourself, like you when you were in
Speaker 1: them in Denver.
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna make it. We're gonna make it work.
Speaker 1: The volume