WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 1: Rockets Force Game 7 vs. Warriors + Gregg Popovich Steps Down as Spurs Coach

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<v Speaker 2>Hello ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us

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<v Speaker 2>for another episode of Nightcap. If you play, if you

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<v Speaker 2>love sports that has a series, the most important word

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<v Speaker 2>you can have game seven. Everybody loves game seven. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're a basketball, baseball, hockey, something that has a series.

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<v Speaker 2>In the playoffs, game seven is where it's at. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he had a couple of coffee feeding.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Thanks for having me, un But you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I was just thinking about the Lakers and the Spurs kicked.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, like my favorite saying one morning your

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<v Speaker 1>Get your tickets now seven the Rockets. Yeah, the Rockets

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<v Speaker 1>are going back home thanks to a definitive Now, don't

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<v Speaker 1>let the score fool you.

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<v Speaker 3>One fifteen to one oh eight.

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<v Speaker 2>But when they emptied the benches, I think, if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not mistaken, they were down by like fifteen. But the

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<v Speaker 2>Rockets did an unbelievable job. They got great performances. Fred

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<v Speaker 2>van Fleet played forty minutes. He was six or nine

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<v Speaker 2>from the three, nine or nine from the free throw line,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine big points. Shungoon had twenty one and fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>and six. He played outstanding. But Rob you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>when you play on the road and you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>force a game seven, or you're trying to close out

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<v Speaker 2>a series, you start your guys that you count on

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<v Speaker 2>need to play well, but you need to get some

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<v Speaker 2>production from somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't expect it now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is the most points that

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Adams has ever scored in the game. I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the most rebound or the most blocks, but

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<v Speaker 2>this might be the most impactful game that he's played

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<v Speaker 2>his entire career. And he's played a lot of playoff

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<v Speaker 2>basketball game. He's played a lot of games. But tonight

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<v Speaker 2>I believe he was the difference maker because he got rebounds,

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<v Speaker 2>he kept possessions alive, he blockshot. He changed it when

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<v Speaker 2>they went to that big lineup with him and Shandon

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<v Speaker 2>in there. That changed that changed it quite wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The one thing you can't teach the size.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say that all the time. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>just say your your favorite team just went down because

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<v Speaker 1>they elected not to use their size. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>got a small team those the State is a small

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<v Speaker 1>team very and you know, and we know how strong

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<v Speaker 1>Draymond is, but he ain't strong and Steven Allams and Stephens,

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<v Speaker 1>he be carvering out that room, be grabbing rebounds, be

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<v Speaker 1>pushing people out the way. He's an enforcement And you got, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at this Rocket team outside of Dylan

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<v Speaker 1>and ravershing done. They all little guys, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>need protectors out there on that floor. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Adam is. You know, you look at Josh. John's

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<v Speaker 1>missing that right now. So you need a guy like that,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Joe, I mean you look, you look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought Jabari Smith Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>He made like two or three buckets with the shot

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<v Speaker 2>clock winding down. He had two big threes. He were

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<v Speaker 2>one stree. He got up off the floor. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a scrabble for the ball. Brand Fleet gainst it and

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<v Speaker 2>kicks it back. He gives up off the floor Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was Ray Allen for just a Second's

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<v Speaker 2>not just kill of the game. But he gives up

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<v Speaker 2>off the floor and he cans the three as Golden

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<v Speaker 2>State was trying to make that move, trying to create

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<v Speaker 2>a turnover. I thought the bench was out standing for

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<v Speaker 2>the Houston Rockets tonight. I think they got thirty two

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two big points, sixteen thirty three, thirty six big

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<v Speaker 2>points from the bench. The guys played really well. The

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<v Speaker 2>starters played well. Brooks got in fouled trouble and Adoka

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<v Speaker 2>didn't didn't have a choice but to send him to

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<v Speaker 2>the bench, But I thought their backup played extremely well.

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<v Speaker 2>Your role players. You got what you expected from Van Fleet.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside of that first two games, he's been light side

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<v Speaker 2>rocked from the three point line. He's been going crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean crazy. And then you got shing Gooon. He's

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<v Speaker 2>an All Star for a reason. He gave you that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you get Adams coming off the bench and

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<v Speaker 2>giving you what he gave you. They got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of confidence because they won back to back games. They

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<v Speaker 2>forced the game six. Now they forced the game seven.

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<v Speaker 2>The Warriors have their work cut up for them. They

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<v Speaker 2>went colding that fourth quarter of the start. They couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get anything to fall and lead. That was what three

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<v Speaker 2>four points all of a sudden went to twelve and

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<v Speaker 2>the Rockets didn't let off the gas and they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>look back. Oh Joe Warriors. Yeah, I thought Steph had

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<v Speaker 2>it gold. He got hot there for a second, him

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<v Speaker 2>and Jimmy, But they didn't get enough from the auxillary players.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey man, listen the Warriors. The stars showed up. That

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<v Speaker 3>showed up. Obviously, we didn't. We didn't see the Steph

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<v Speaker 3>Curry were used to seeing.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, he had twenty nine points, but it took twenty

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<v Speaker 4>three shots to get there. Jimmy Butler had twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>But listen, some goom but young Bulls Special, Young Bullet

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<v Speaker 4>Special and Van Fleet showed up the night and then

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<v Speaker 4>what he needed to do at being the veteran presence

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<v Speaker 4>that the Rockets do have. Listen, them young boys, them

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<v Speaker 4>young bulls looked like they wanted it more. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 4>intensity they played on both both sides of the floor.

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<v Speaker 3>Spacey was really good.

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<v Speaker 4>And that goddamn Steven Adams Listen, he was probably the

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<v Speaker 4>difference makeup when you when you talk about the size

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<v Speaker 4>in which the Rockets have and how small, how small

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<v Speaker 4>the Warriors are, I think it comes down to making

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<v Speaker 4>more shots because those those those second those second what

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<v Speaker 4>do you call it second when you get the second attempts? Yeah, bingo,

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's what he's trying to say. That the second

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<v Speaker 4>attempts that the Rockets had is the reason why they

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<v Speaker 4>won the game. And obviously them playing with a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more fire, like they wanted a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 4>Even though the experience of the Warriors who have been

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<v Speaker 4>in positions like this before and had the experience with

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<v Speaker 4>the dray Bonds, you know, the Jimmy butlers that it

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<v Speaker 4>used to be in in playoff atmospheres. Them young bulls

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<v Speaker 4>look like they wanted more and listen like you say,

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<v Speaker 4>they got they they got their stuff cut out for

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<v Speaker 4>him having to travel. Now they got to go the

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<v Speaker 4>goddamn Houston and seal the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta believe what they what they are. Never Rudy T.

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<v Speaker 2>Never underestimate the heart of a champion. These rockets on

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<v Speaker 2>the champions. But that's what Rudy T carting to play

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<v Speaker 2>coin to praise and his stuff. I think the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is that when they went to that big lineup, because

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<v Speaker 2>Draymond is undersize, you can't play lonly because it gives

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<v Speaker 2>you nothing on our fence. Post wasn't hitting any shots,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can't play him. So you're really trying to say, Draymond,

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<v Speaker 2>I need you to keep seven foot three hundred pounds

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Adams off the glass. I need you to keep

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<v Speaker 2>six ten six eleven Shing Goon off the glass. You're

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<v Speaker 2>asking too much, and you see they started to wear

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<v Speaker 2>him down over and over over and over again. Second

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<v Speaker 2>chance points. They did a great job of finan shing

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<v Speaker 2>Goon in the high post and then guess what he

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<v Speaker 2>takes one dribble, he drops it off to Steven Adams

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<v Speaker 2>a dunk, or he drops it off he finds a

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<v Speaker 2>A Thompson for a layup. He played extremely well tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I expected I expected Van Pleet because they got to

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<v Speaker 2>do something with Van Pleet. They because he's walking in, shooting,

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<v Speaker 2>shoot around, freeze. He's feeling that. It's that comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. For me, I knew war was in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>from jump because any time you change your lineup, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a sign to the other team like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what to do with you now.

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<v Speaker 3>The rockets you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know there when you're that young, anything can give you emotion,

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<v Speaker 1>get the sparked and your energy. They are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we got him scared. And you think about this. They

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<v Speaker 1>changed the line and then look what happened Jr. There

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<v Speaker 1>because they wanted somebody to slow vamp feet down. Why

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<v Speaker 1>you know they don't why change it because you just

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<v Speaker 1>talked about offense. You know that's no offense right there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you got Buddy Hill. We all know Buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Hill is not a defensive player.

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<v Speaker 2>But the one thing that's that Kurr is gonna He's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do the same thing that JJ Redick did and

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<v Speaker 2>by himself in the butt with it by not playing

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<v Speaker 2>him coming here because you need size and you need

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<v Speaker 2>athleticism go up against this this rocket leting because athletic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're gonna because you mad this dude. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going on. If you curse him out

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<v Speaker 1>or something, he won't plan. But this is your third

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<v Speaker 1>leading scorer on the team. He was his secondly go

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<v Speaker 1>on the team until you got butt of the Butler.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you're not playing them, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on right there. But that's gonna cost them

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<v Speaker 1>in this series because now you don't get the Rockets

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<v Speaker 1>all type of energy, and they gonna go back and

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<v Speaker 1>probably win this series because you elect to do some

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<v Speaker 1>dumb stuff like in game four, I mean Game five,

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<v Speaker 1>game and tonight, you know, you know what I mean before.

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<v Speaker 4>You go with I think what I think for the

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<v Speaker 4>words obviously going into Game seven, what's going to have

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<v Speaker 4>to happen regardless of what the Rockets do. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna have to be Jimmy Butler and the it's

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<v Speaker 4>going back to Curry. Curry findings to be a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more efficient from the field to overcome all the

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<v Speaker 4>things that the Rockets do, whether they go big, whether

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<v Speaker 4>they go small, the only thing to do is put

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<v Speaker 4>the goddamn ball in this bucket and have more points

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<v Speaker 4>and just hope, just hope. Whatever you can do, you got.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to lean on Curry. That's only that's the

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<v Speaker 4>only way. That's the only way Game seven going going into.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what stadium it is, that the Rockets playing.

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<v Speaker 3>In Houston, Toyota, Toyota. That's the only way it's gonna happen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think. I like what Yadoka did.

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<v Speaker 2>He went to a zone and every time Steph got

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, they trapped him. They said, Nah, Bron, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care if you. I don't care if you at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, like we gonna get that ball out of

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<v Speaker 2>your hands. Somebody else is going to be this. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe in a moment like this here because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a difference between hitting shots in game one, two, three, four, five,

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<v Speaker 2>Because this is an opportunity for advance.

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<v Speaker 3>And now you're gonna be like Ojo said, You're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to rely a little bit more on Curry and

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<v Speaker 2>Butler because a lot of these guys haven't been in

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<v Speaker 2>moments like this, Draymond asked, But I'm not counting on

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<v Speaker 2>Draymond to give me a whole bunch of points. I've

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<v Speaker 2>counted on him to give me somewhere between four and

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<v Speaker 2>eight points. He'll give you six seven rebounds, five six

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<v Speaker 2>seven assists. That's what I'm expecting for him. But your

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<v Speaker 2>production is gonna have to come from Jimmy Butler and

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry, guys that have been in this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought you don't. He did a great thing.

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<v Speaker 3>He went to the zone.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, look, do not get back picked, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna try to come and sit that backpick and have

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<v Speaker 2>Curry floating. And they kept their eyes on them. They

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<v Speaker 2>gave up a couple of you know what back door

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<v Speaker 2>cuts because you know they got I got eyes on Steph.

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<v Speaker 3>And guys snuck behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>Draymond got one, Jimmy Butler got one couple of guys.

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<v Speaker 3>But I give you that.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing I don't want to have happened is

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry hit a couple of threes, and he hit

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<v Speaker 2>a couple early, and he got the crowded to the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to keep the crowd at bay as long

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<v Speaker 2>as I possibly can, and then the longer you kept

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<v Speaker 2>them at bay, and then come the fourth quarter, they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't buy a bucket. Steph had some great looks, Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>Butler had some great looks, and it just wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 2>down for him.

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<v Speaker 3>But hey, yeah, hey uncle, hey Rob.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you could probably attest to this, obviously being

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<v Speaker 4>in that situation. I consider pressure situations obviously planning in

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<v Speaker 4>the playoffs going into a game seven. But one of

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<v Speaker 4>the things, just from me watching from the naked eye,

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<v Speaker 4>took three things that the word can clean up. For One,

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<v Speaker 4>the turnovers. They had sixteen turnovers a night. They filing,

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<v Speaker 4>they had, god damn there thirty to thirty files. And

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<v Speaker 4>then under pressure, let's say he make goes to the zone

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<v Speaker 4>again in game seven, Relax, tighten up. Under pressure, relax

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<v Speaker 4>and tiv to run your offense, to do things and

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<v Speaker 4>a relax manner. And if they trapped, if if they trapped,

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<v Speaker 4>curR every time to get the ball. Everybody else, including

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<v Speaker 4>the supporting cast. You got to hit your shots. You

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<v Speaker 4>got to hit your shots when it matters most, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>See Steph gotta hit the shots. Two six to sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>from three ain't gonna cut it, you know. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>know Steph is considered the best shoot they ever played

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<v Speaker 1>his game.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of his threes to me were bad threes.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we said, oh, that's not a bad three

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<v Speaker 1>for Curry, but you can today was a bad threes.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get off the ball because you can move

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<v Speaker 1>so much and the Rockets is only gonna play.

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<v Speaker 3>Defense for so long, you can get a better shot.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one thing about in the playoffs, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always harping on you want to, okay, shot a good

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<v Speaker 1>shot and a great shot. I know every time Steph

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<v Speaker 1>touches the ball from anywhere in the gym, it's usually

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<v Speaker 1>a somewhat great shot. But when you got the long

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<v Speaker 1>defensive team like the Rockets, those turn into good shots,

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<v Speaker 1>don'kay how great a shooting you are.

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<v Speaker 3>And for me, that's one of the things they gotta do.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, Draymond got to keep his cool because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know the little anthics you do that as

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<v Speaker 1>to as other teams spark too. And so for me,

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<v Speaker 1>he going going into Houston, know they're gonna be boring him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna get amped up he's gonna have to play

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<v Speaker 1>under control. Jimmy Buck's gonna have to play under control.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're gonna have to go back to they starting

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<v Speaker 1>lineup because that's how that that's the rhythm they have.

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<v Speaker 1>Because when you got a guy like Jimmy Butter who

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<v Speaker 1>just came into your season and you change the lineup

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<v Speaker 1>on him, that can affect him because now, okay, how

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<v Speaker 1>do I play with this dude?

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<v Speaker 3>I just learned how to play with this guy. It's

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<v Speaker 3>little intricacies.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like that that coaches don't think about that players

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<v Speaker 1>need to know because I know, like I know what

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<v Speaker 1>route you're gonna run on the quarterback, And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>that think about that. Now Jimmy's out there being the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and all of a sudden, you got a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna run to his point.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean you know, it's like, okay, what I do now?

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<v Speaker 3>It messes up the rhythm.

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<v Speaker 4>So Nobby is gonna ask Rob obviously, listen, you can

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<v Speaker 4>attest to this, especially the game situation like this, and

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<v Speaker 4>you got an athletic player that can match up very

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<v Speaker 4>well against the Rockets.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you thin think Kurr plays coming of this game

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more being that he No, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think he's gonna play him at all. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what that situation is, but it's been bad. You

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<v Speaker 1>think about it since the three games left in the

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<v Speaker 1>season he had, he played him, and he played him

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<v Speaker 1>on the reason the other night because he needed someone.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you think about if he didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>him to night and then in garbage minutes to try

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<v Speaker 1>to let him get some type of rhythm, he play

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<v Speaker 1>in game seven.

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<v Speaker 3>So you rather what does it? You know, despite he

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<v Speaker 3>rather despite whatever situation.

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<v Speaker 4>They got going on, you rather chance losing game seven

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<v Speaker 4>based on what you saw tonight and not make the

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<v Speaker 4>necessary changes to give you give your team the best

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<v Speaker 4>chance to win.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been playing in regardless because you know, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>when you that talent, that athletic, I know that you

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<v Speaker 1>got to play him. Man, Because so many coaches get

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<v Speaker 1>pissed off at players, they're like, oh, I'm gonna show you. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're showing yourself because you only hurt your team. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I think that's one of the mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>that coaches make. You know it, It's just hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to found that you rather have your pride getting

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<v Speaker 1>the way of you getting a dub and yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>it look, we've all played this more for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and coaches would rather lose their way than win some

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<v Speaker 1>other way. It's just the way, the truth, and the

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<v Speaker 1>part of coaching is coaching. Sometimes you're like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're gonna do. But a really good coach saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, that ain't working.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't my original plan, but let me try to

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<v Speaker 2>find something else to go instead of being bullheaded. Well

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<v Speaker 2>I said I wasn't gonna play this guy. Well I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not playing this guy. Hey, it doesn't work like that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're gonna be a coach, you gotta be a

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<v Speaker 2>coach at all time, and sometimes you have to swallow

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<v Speaker 2>your pride as a player, as a coach, whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>case may be, in order to get the victory. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thought tonight, you know, yeah, I agree with you

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<v Speaker 2>rob him changing the lineup, because even if you put

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<v Speaker 2>when you put Peyton in, yeah you get defense, but

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<v Speaker 2>the floor is not spaced as much as when you

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<v Speaker 2>got Prositimic in there. So now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>the floor is a little bit more condensed. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>might get a little bit more on ball pressure with

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<v Speaker 2>Van Fleet. But what you're giving up on the other

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<v Speaker 2>end because you want as much space as you possibly

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<v Speaker 2>can for your shooters, lack of step lack a Buddy Hill,

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<v Speaker 2>like a zip pot zim Zimski.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's condensed Draymond. Draymond is not a thread

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<v Speaker 1>that the'll give Drake.

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<v Speaker 2>If you notice, like the last three games, Draymond tak

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<v Speaker 2>the first shot, they'll give it.

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<v Speaker 3>That three.

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<v Speaker 2>You you're not gonna make enough of those to put

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<v Speaker 2>fear ain't. Nobody will say, get a hand up, don't

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<v Speaker 2>even worry about it. Let him have that, Let him

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<v Speaker 2>have that shot. I'm not getting. I don't want open

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<v Speaker 2>looks for Steph. I don't want open looks for Buddy

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<v Speaker 2>Hill and Pozimski. But here's the thing. He gave you

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<v Speaker 2>zero to nice So yeah, Buddy gave you nothing. You said,

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<v Speaker 2>h Steph. I think the state will make Steph so dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>And how he gets the crowded it is when that

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<v Speaker 2>he takes those shots from twenty five thirty feet away

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a bad shot for everybody else, and it

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<v Speaker 2>goes in. Not only does against the crowd going, it

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<v Speaker 2>gets him going. So now he sees it goes in

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<v Speaker 2>after he's taken a shot, and he can even goals

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<v Speaker 2>out before the ball goes through the net.

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<v Speaker 3>By you're in trouble. You and you're in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>That start happening because he feels it and now there

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<v Speaker 2>is no bad shot. If he's see a couple of them,

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<v Speaker 2>faiths go in. Rob Ain't no bad shot for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the night. Yeah, but they'll go in. He's

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<v Speaker 2>six and sixteen, yeah, yeah, yeah, he needed Look, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you got great production from him and Jimmy Butler. Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>Butler twelve or fourteen for the free throw line. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what Jimmy does. He's gonna put pressure on you. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna attack.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. They needed one other player.

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<v Speaker 2>Draymond gave him a buddy, gave him nothing GP the

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<v Speaker 2>second game, gave him five points. That's not enough. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought Moody. I thought Moody would get more minutes because

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<v Speaker 2>he came in here's a big three. I thought Moody

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<v Speaker 2>would get more minutes Rob than what he hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty minutes that he got twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's weird because Moody has been playing very

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<v Speaker 1>well in this series. You're thinking about you want a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's gonna give you twelve to thirteen points and

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<v Speaker 1>is active like he is, and he hasn't gotten as

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<v Speaker 1>much play as I thought he would. You know, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to start, keep him in the starting lineup,

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<v Speaker 1>do something that let Buddy Hugh be coming off the

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<v Speaker 1>bench all you keep coming off the bill off the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just one of those things where Steph, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>we know this is your arena, we know it's your league,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes defer. You know, I play with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of grace and them ug Sometime they come out like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>if you knocking out of shots, I ain't taking those shots.

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<v Speaker 3>You carry us. And that's one of the things that Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 1>Butler's really good at too, because he can get it

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<v Speaker 1>going and he would defer to other people. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing about Steph though. Stephan is not a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that really defers because he doesn't have to. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think when he goes to Houston and now Houston

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<v Speaker 1>crowd and he not knocking down them shots, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to be a facilitator because he ain't gonna be of.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing on his own.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people forget the Rockets or a defensive team

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<v Speaker 1>because you.

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<v Speaker 3>Got he made back there.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a lot of guys that know how to

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<v Speaker 1>play defense at long, the athletics, so you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to share the basketball if they want to try

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<v Speaker 1>to come back and win this series.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got Thompson who's long and athletic, Delan Brooks

0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:12.720
<v Speaker 2>and one of the defensive stopper Easton Steven Adams.

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they got guys that can pressure the basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I'm doing everything I possibly can to not

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<v Speaker 2>let stuff get going early in that game seven, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the last thing I wanted to do. Have like ten

0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:24.280
<v Speaker 2>to twelve points in the first quarter. Now he gets

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<v Speaker 2>an extended rest for the second because you got to

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.199
<v Speaker 2>think about it to night. He played forty two minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Steps don't normally play those kind of minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of minutes for a guy at his age.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't people talking about Lebron. He runs because he's

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<v Speaker 1>perpetual motion.

0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 2>He's not a guy that's taking a lot of break

0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.560
<v Speaker 2>because he has to work. He's working to get his shot.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's from sideline to the baseline to baseline.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you forget it's not two games to rest days. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's lay off play. So he only got one day arrest,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours back on that court. So that's and

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<v Speaker 1>then he got a fly yeah. Yeah, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>three hour flight maybe four because you might not take

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<v Speaker 1>off a Francisco all that damn fog sometimes, so you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't get out of that. Fred van Fleet is, now,

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<v Speaker 2>what'd you say? You said something?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was gonna say the good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>The good thing about Steph the chances of him having

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<v Speaker 4>a game like this like tonight where it takes him

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<v Speaker 4>so many shots to even get to twenty nine, twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever the points he had, he ain't gonna ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 4>double that. He's not gonna have another game like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's gonna be much more efficient. Buddy Hill

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<v Speaker 4>probably gonna be much better, and they probably gonna get

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<v Speaker 4>Buddy Hill, Buddy Hill going early. And I really, for

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<v Speaker 4>some reason, I don't know why, where Kerr really understanding.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure Dremond and maybe Steph will probably talk to

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<v Speaker 4>Kurr with great understanding.

0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:37.560
<v Speaker 3>We need a little bit more help, we need a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more size.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you got to do something and get community

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<v Speaker 4>in there some kind of way before we be sitting

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<v Speaker 4>at home and god damn can.

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<v Speaker 2>Coon I've had to rock out what they did for

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<v Speaker 2>They put a lot of pressure on them. They shot

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<v Speaker 2>forty six free throws, Bob, they shot forty six free throws.

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 2>It's been a while since our team to see the

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 2>team shoot forty six free throws. But sixteen of those

0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 2>with the Steven autos and a lot of that had

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:01.960
<v Speaker 2>to do it connected. They would hack Adams and you

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<v Speaker 2>know Donald Stretch, he made them pay for that.

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<v Speaker 3>He was mad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the things where you try that, you know,

0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that's all that Pops Doug Mimry Pop did that against

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Shack and you know the hacker Shock. And you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>think about some of these guys. You make one, you

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<v Speaker 1>make two, you got to go away from it because

0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:19.679
<v Speaker 1>that guy has a little real You know, sometime you

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.040
<v Speaker 1>want to trust the process. You talk about following your

0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:24.320
<v Speaker 1>game plan. There's certain game plans you have to scrap.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Steven Adams is you know, you know she his free

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<v Speaker 1>throw percentision might be bad, but the dude, you look

0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.159
<v Speaker 1>at his form, the way he approaches it, everything is

0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 1>fundamentally sounds so he can knock him down. He just

0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:36.320
<v Speaker 1>don't knock him down because he don't shoot it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So it looked like a percentage. You're bad, right the Rockets,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me. The Warriors shot twenty two free throws. All

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 1>of them came from three guys. Draymond was one for two,

0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy was twelve or fourteen, and Steph was five or six.

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<v Speaker 3>So that tells me they're not nearly aggressive enough.

0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:55.240
<v Speaker 2>When you only got three guys to take your free

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 2>throw attempts, that means But but the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, that's not that's what you tho. That's not that's

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:02.840
<v Speaker 1>what you get from a jump shooting team. When you

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:04.879
<v Speaker 1>shoot jump shots, you don't to the free throw line.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing about you know, you talk about analytics

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 1>or basketball shooting threes. I've always had the mindset, if

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you're shooting the threes, you're playing soft. Why because you're

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:16.920
<v Speaker 1>not trying to create shots. You're not trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the rack. So you're taking the easy way out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just gonna pull a full three. Think about that.

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:23.719
<v Speaker 1>If I pull up full three, that's easy. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>I had to cross on, use spin get to the rack.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hard work. You think about a man, a man

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<v Speaker 1>only he don't mind that work. You just saw he

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:32.920
<v Speaker 1>put in that work. And now you get to these

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>guys wanna shoot jump shots. You're not gonna get to

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the file line. And the only reason Step gets those

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>files sometimes because if you watch closely, he's causing the contact.

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<v Speaker 3>He's really good at that.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and I hate when he does that because

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times when he does it, he's not

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>even concentrating on the shot.

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:51.640
<v Speaker 3>He's concentrating on the file.

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<v Speaker 1>Just take the damn shot to make the shot if

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<v Speaker 1>you get filed so bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, hey, Rob, I got I just want to say

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 4>one thing about you talk about Curry being able to

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 4>put the ball on the floor and create his own

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 4>space in his own shot. You mentioned Anthony Edwards, joh

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Moran can do it as well. But you have to

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 4>think about it. When you look at the landscape of

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 4>all the teams in the NBA, including those in the playoffs,

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.400
<v Speaker 4>it's only maybe one or two players on each team

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 4>that can do that, that can go iceo, that can

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 4>put the ball on the floor and create their own shots.

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 3>So it's not that many of them. So once you

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 3>take that.

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<v Speaker 4>When you trap a player like a Curry and they

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.119
<v Speaker 4>have to facilitate, then now you've got to get everybody

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 4>that's involved, and.

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 3>It puts pressure on them that I didn't. I didn't know.

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 4>There's still a game of basketball and everybody, like I'm

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 4>told me before, everybody didn't have the green light to

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.600
<v Speaker 4>shoot the ball. That will Well, no, I just learned that.

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking, well, hell, if I'm open, just shoot. You

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 4>learn that every.

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<v Speaker 3>Head. That's why you have.

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<v Speaker 1>They go play the percentage they gonna let you take

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that shot.

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<v Speaker 3>You guard you. Yeah, I ain't ain't all that.

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Brad van Fleet last three games he had twenty nine points.

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 2>He has six threes. Tonight twenty six points, four three,

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty five points eight May three. So his last his

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 2>last three ball games, he's got eighteen mad threes, more

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 2>points and threes than stuff he's been. Look, he's the

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 2>veteran presence on this team. He's the guy that's been

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 2>in championship moments. He's the guy who's been on that

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 2>stage in the Eastern Conference where they were, you know,

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 2>in the in the Eastern Conference finals, they went to

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 2>a championship. They led Kawhi led them to an NBA title.

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 2>He he's the guy. So this is what he needs

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 2>to do. Hey, follow me, follow me. He's the leader.

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 2>He did what he was supposed to do. He got

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 2>great contribution from Shingoon. Now, Shanoon is the best player,

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 2>but the veteran presidence the best.

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah best, yes, better than yes, yes, yes.

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 3>What did you talking? Yeah?

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Jaicular Greens only had one good game so far in

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:52.120
<v Speaker 1>his playoffs.

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, he was.

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Three of eleven, one for six. He had twelve points.

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Shan God is an all.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just I'm I'm just talking about I'm talking about you,

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 4>I know, single in the All Star and I'm just

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 4>saying Jayleen Green is supposed to be that next up

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:04.880
<v Speaker 4>and coming, that boy in Houston.

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Or am I mistaken?

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>No, You're not mistaken. But we up we're talking about

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>right now. We are talking about what you okayou yourtality

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 1>is still the best player. Because he's rebounded, he's uh,

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>he's going points, he's getting assists. Jalen Green is just

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 1>a high flyer right now, and that's all he's lopping

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>off of. He got to do more than try to

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's the one thing that but I've watched

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>the NBA. Now there are so many guys that have

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.400
<v Speaker 1>become showman. Instead of playing the damn game. They want

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to do all these antis. When they hit a three,

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>they want to you know, it's just play the damn game.

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, you make a damn shot, big damn deal.

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, you get back and play some DV. It's

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.119
<v Speaker 1>how many times have you seen a guy beat on

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>the other end of the defense because they're doing this ship.

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Just get back and play. And that's one thing that

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that you watch Jay Jayleen Green, he plays. He has

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>a tendency to like try to get to the whole

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>look at the crowd. The next thing, you know, get

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.400
<v Speaker 1>your ass back on defense. So that's why Singoon he's

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>just a hard worker man. He in that pain. He

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>dunking on people. He can get people involved. He's the

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 1>best player on that team. They thought it was.

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Gonna be Jalen Green. Yeah, Shin Gooon has taken over

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Shing Goon.

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 2>He leads to rockets in points, rebounds, assists, and steals

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs.

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Jaylen Bronson game went over the Pistons. What a shot?

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 3>What the moment?

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>The next window series rob you one of the great

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 2>clutch shot shooters.

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you this.

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I think for our audience, they want to know in

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:34.120
<v Speaker 2>that moment, are you thinking, like, man, if I make

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 2>this shot, him a hero if I miss it, or

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 2>you just going through the It's the same whether the

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 2>moment is there or not. It's just like if it

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 2>was the first quarter, the second quarter, third quarter. What

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 2>goes through your head when you're taking a shot that

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 2>could potentially win you the game or lose you the game.

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think about anything, man, because it's just like

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>when you're in a gym, you're taking all these shots

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 1>and prepare for this moment. He put the reps in

0:27:57.920 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's what you gotta do. That's why you see guys.

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>You know you take Kobe fences. He's been a gym

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty four to seven, so everything came easy. And if

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you put in the time and the work and the sacrifice,

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 1>these moments like this, you don't even think about it.

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>When you think about Daylon Brunston. Most guys they like

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>going to their offhand to pull up for the jump

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>shout because you can square up a little bit better.

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 1>He got you going left, like you thought, oh, he's

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>a strong left guy. He was setting them up, he said,

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>jumpsing up. I'm coming right back over here to I

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>want to knocked down this tree. So it's just it's

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>just a process that you go through each and every day,

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and you watch him. He is so good at manipulating

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the defense. He can get you on your head and

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>then he can cost the contact or he can get you.

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>He can he can gauge your speed if you're going

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>too fast, he stops on the diamond, pulls up, and

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I think for him and any any guy who's playing

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>this game long enough, you don't think about it. You

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>just do it. It's this second next, second nature thing

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to you. Man, You just you just enjoyed the moment

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and you just hope that you make that monch so

0:28:58.480 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you can talk a lot of shit.

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>He does a great job rob as you mentioned, but

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 2>he gets his body in such a position to shoot

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 2>that shot because like you said, he's the left handed player,

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and most left handed players are left hand dominant.

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 3>They're trying to get to that left side. They want

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 3>to go left.

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>He did that, and then if you notice, he stepped

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 2>back and squared himself and let it go. He get

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 2>a shrewter. He got an a one on shooter and

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>he got a tough step back. He I mean the

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 2>way he can like get his body in position to

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 2>take and make tough shots for a guy his size,

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 2>he is not a big guy. I mean his body

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 2>of mean, you know what I'm saying. He's you know,

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 2>he got a little little gird to him. You know

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 2>he got some but he I mean what you think

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 2>six foot I think he about six six.

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>One hit that h but his ability and he's stronger

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>than you think for a guy his size, because the.

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Way he can like put that that showed in your

0:29:57.040 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 2>chest and get that shot off in the square and

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>the knock be shots down.

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 3>He was sensatial.

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 2>They couldn't buy basket for the first nine ten minutes

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 2>of the ball game, and then all of a sudden,

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 2>he said, man, just give me the ball. What y'all

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>doing every shot that needed to be taken and made.

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Now they got a huge campend by Bridge and somebody

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>missed the shot and they didn't block out and Bridges

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 2>got the.

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Tip that tied it up.

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 2>But you know, once they missed that shot, boy, y'

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 2>y'all been to get this ball. Because Thompson had just

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 2>made a great defensive playoff like two possessions earlier, he

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>got a shot clock violation on the copy. He went

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>to go up and he stripped him with the ball.

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, Brusse, I got something for you. I

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 2>got something for you.

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 4>Hold that, but hold on, I got a question you

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 4>for for for rob Man for you and Unk.

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 4>As great as Jalen Brunson's was in this series, as

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 4>great as he's been obviously being a very very clutch player. Hell,

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 4>he's just one NBA cuss Player of the year, right, yeah,

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 4>obviously showing this offensive prowes tonight with forty. Is there

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 4>any chance y'all giving the and in this series against

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 4>the Celtics any chance?

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>No. And the reason I say no is because when

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>you look at the Celtics, they got six guys that

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>can score. And every time I look at the Nicks,

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>they remind me of Ai. You know, they got this

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>one guy that does all the scoring and everybody else

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>does two or three things really really good to make

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>that pie hole. And do you take out Bridges, who

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite players. When they use him and

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>he's able to score, they're a totally different team. But

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I just think the Celtics has too much firepower. And

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the things they don't talk about with the

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Celtics is you look at them. They got four good

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>defensive players out there in that court, you know, and

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>that's and and and we don't talk about that because

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>he's so caught up in all the threes they shoot.

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 3>But you think about, you.

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Know, White, Holiday, even Brown, these guys are fucking good defenders.

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And so they got bodies to throw at Bronson a

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>little short sail and so that's gonna be hard.

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 3>And you know, going back to Bronston.

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.239
<v Speaker 1>The one thing that makes it really good is this

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>is gonna sound really crazy, is left handed players are always,

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>uh have that ability to get to the line and

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>do things because you're not used to that. You hardly

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>ever run across the left pendent player. You think about Mono,

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>do you know we're gonna play with He was so

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>good because you think he's about to do someone is

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>right here, like, oh shit, he's left handed. And by

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the time you think about it, it's too late. And because

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just not what you use is uncommon. But I

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>just think he I think the Knicks might win one

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>game because they play hard. But I think overall, I

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>just think the Celtic, Yeah, it's gonna be a gentleman,

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.479
<v Speaker 1>sweet man. I just think that if the Celtics stay healthy.

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>You know they they've been getting a little banged up

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>in there. But I just think the Celtics are too good. Yeah,

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>because when you look at it, think about what they go.

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>They got Derrick White that can defend. They got Holiday

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>that can find, they got JB that can defend. They

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>got big A Horford that can defend, whose fingers can

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>protect the paint. And then they bring Pritchard off the

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>bench that can score. How that can call Cornett that

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>can that can give you a little rebound. Me.

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh, they're loaded. You we know j T can defend

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 2>if they have to, but he can score. J BE

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 2>can score, Derrick White can score. They got scores, and

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 2>they got defenders. So they're always going to have a

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 2>bare minimum to quality defenders on the court at all times.

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>And so when you have that, when you got two

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 2>guys that can defend. But look what they start with.

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 2>So if they start Holiday, you got Holiday, Derrick White,

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 2>JP Al Horford.

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I'm gonna tell you this, I liked the Nickson

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 4>winning at least three games, winning three games. I got

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 4>them winning three games. I mean, hey, raw, you want

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 4>to you want to you want to best some on it.

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 4>You want to throw a little throw ways on that.

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 3>What do you want to? Bet? Said?

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Make it?

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 4>Said, make it light to yourself. Bet fifty two hundred.

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 4>That's very specific way, he said, Yeah, trying.

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying. I hold fifty two hundred. So I'm just

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 3>trying to I'm trying to make it up some other

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of way. I'm trying to break you.

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, of all the game winners

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 2>that you hit, what's your favorite one?

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Uh, Lakers against against the Kings that.

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Game without a game and that was game four, Game four.

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>You know we lose that game, we go down three

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to one. And the reason is my favorite because if

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you look at most of my game winners, they've all

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>done on the road, and so this one was done

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>at home and enjoy with the crowd.

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got it.

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I grew up a huge Lakers fan, right, I grew

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>up a big Magic Johnson fan.

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, you wouldn't never be and a Laker. You

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 3>used to them chanting Kobe, Kobe or shot.

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, when you get a chance to knock down

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>a big three and you get him chant your name

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>like that. Man, it's the best feeling ever, I think

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>for me, it's probably outside of Kobe's last game. Is

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>the greatest moment in Stable Slash Crypto. And if you

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 1>every time I see the shot from above and when

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm making and the crowd just jumps up and cheers,

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I get goose punts every time I see. You know,

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:00.720
<v Speaker 1>even though I love what I do in two thousand

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 1>and five against the Pistons in Game five, when I

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 1>lit the asses.

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Up, Yeah, that's the what I was That's what I

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 3>was thinking. Yet.

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, it's something you know, we as

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>an athlete, we all got that ego, we all got

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>that pride. You want to hit them fans chant your name.

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.919
<v Speaker 1>But I tell you what, I only have like one

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>picture up. I don't even have that shot up in

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>my house, but I do have the picture of me

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>making that shot against the Pistols because I just like

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>looking at the faces of the people in the crowd.

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 3>You got some.

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 1>People like you know, you got one guy him in

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the crowd, and it's like because he knew it was

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>going in.

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 2>People I don't know if people realize this, Rob, but

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 2>before those black injuries, you are hot flower. You were

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 2>doing I mean you were punching on folks.

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean you were on the top.

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>People look at you and they're like, man, all he

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 1>did was you threes no no, no, no no.

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 3>When you came in.

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know what it is about them,

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>the Alabama guys.

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 3>You would been nice.

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 2>All the guys had up the way up.

0:35:58.560 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if.

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 2>People realize that, but you wore a hot flower, a

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 2>six teen guy that finished above the rim. And then

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>you turned yourself. I think it was the back injury

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 2>that you turned yourself in more of a shooter. You

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 2>still could punch your folks, but not like you could

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>when you first.

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Got Now it's so weird when you come in to

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>lead funny stories. Like my middle son, he came to

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>me one time, like, Daddy, you don't ever dunk anymore.

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 3>You can't even dunk.

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 1>And there's that one dunk in the playoffs against the

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Detroit Pistons that I dunked on real Pemilton while I

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>took out outside the bank and I said, see your dad,

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I can still dunk.

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 3>I just don't have to.

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>But you know, the weird part about it is when

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I got to the Lakers, they was like, oh, we

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to, you know, they said, we need

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you just spot up. And the worst thing as an athlete,

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 1>if any athletes listening, is don't let coaches limit to

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>limit you in what you can do.

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 3>And I think you know this day and age is

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 3>a little bit different.

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Back then, it was a little bit more I need

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to do this, this and this, and so in my

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>mind became, Okay, this is what they want me to do,

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>spot up and shoot.

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 3>Threes and all this concept.

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>But I I showed my my my youngest son, Christian,

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>who's that you said?

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:04.439
<v Speaker 3>Last?

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Let me show you something, man, Come sit down, And

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I showed them my highlights, I mean rockets when I

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>used to dunk.

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 3>He looked at me like, damn you had ups.

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, I just stopped doing it because they

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:14.959
<v Speaker 1>didn't want I didn't have room to do it because

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Shaq wasn't the damn way.

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 3>That's dope. That's lie. Hey, ay, Rob.

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 4>With some of those some of those clutch shots you hit,

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 4>were you ever did you ever keep any of the.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Balls, especially, I mean you got.

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Some really really really good moments, and for me, I

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.760
<v Speaker 4>would want to keep those. I would I personally want

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 4>to keep those balls.

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 3>And you know you don't have.

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Any, you know, I really I have.

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 3>I have one.

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have one from it's actually the Game seven

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>ball against the Knicks.

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 3>I have that.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>And the only reason I have that because I told

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the guy said, because the first two points of Game

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>seven was me dunking on Batch and I was like, I.

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Wrote that ball.

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 1>So I have that ball, and I wish I had

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.879
<v Speaker 1>the one I made against the Kings because ship if

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I lost it, if I betted you and lost, I

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>just sell that and give me a lot of money

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to cover that.

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 3>So I know Comfarens will love that ball. So hey, but.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Speaking of you talking about balls and being able to

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 4>sell the ball and get you a lot of money, Listen,

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 4>I got a prize possession. That's what I'm gonna say.

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm supposed to have it in closed in the case, right,

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 4>uh huh. But I got the I got the game

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 4>ball when Lebron hit his fiftieth point fifty thousand Yeah,

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 4>like listen, fifty thousand points and that's something that you

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:38.720
<v Speaker 4>would think, you know, Yeah, so it's a fifty thousand

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 4>point ball right now.

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 3>He see fifty thousand point and Lebron signed the part.

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah. I mean, if if I ever fallow a

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 3>hard times, man, it's this hit gonna come in handy.

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you fallow a hard time to try to see

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>that ball?

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:57.839
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna stay on hard times? Exactly? You? You might,

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 3>you might real hard times. Greg with them to deal.

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Greg Papavic stepped out of the coach of the San

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Antonio Spurst Today Indy, a nearly three decade run that

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 2>saw him lead the team to five championships. He's the

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 2>all time winning his coach uh at NBA history, and

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 2>he's a three time Coach of the Year, and he's

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 2>a Hall of Fame, won a gold medal, and he's

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.280
<v Speaker 2>inducted to the Basketball Hall of Fame. Rob, you played

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 2>for Pop? What what was it about Pop that made

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 2>him special? What was your what's going to be your

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 2>lasting memory of playing for Pop?

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I think for me, it's just his how genuine he was,

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.320
<v Speaker 1>and you know he he was one of those coaches

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>where he's one of those coaches where he had yelled

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>at you and then take you to have some nochi

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>and some wine, you know, his two favorite things. And

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>for me, I think I tell this story all the time.

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>The one thing that really made me fall in love

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>with the.

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.959
<v Speaker 3>Guy was my daughter who passed away.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Was really sick my last year with the Spurs, and

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 1>she went into the hospital at the beginning of the

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.879
<v Speaker 1>season and he was like, don't don't come back until

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 1>she's out of the hospital. And I sat in the

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>hospital with her for like three weeks and then she

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>probably go out of the hospital and I came back

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:08.439
<v Speaker 1>like a day after.

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 3>He says, she out a hospital.

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Like yees, she got home like two days ago, he said,

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>she and out of the woods. Yet get back, go

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:15.919
<v Speaker 1>back home. You know, we don't really need you right now.

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>And I looked at him, like, are you trying to

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>get rid of me on the slide? He said, no, Man,

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>family first, you know, family first, And that's what That's

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 1>how Pop always was. Man. You know, I just heard

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 1>the day about the story of the martow Rows when

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>his pops passed, and now it's like, and that goes

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to show you, you know, there's some things bigger than

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>a freaking game, right, and Pop realized that, you know,

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>he was always about you know, spending time with your family,

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 1>doing what's important. And I remember even my last year,

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I went to him and I was like, you know,

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask a favor, like what I said,

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>it's my last year. I said, can I and my

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>son's on spring break. We're going on a road trip.

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Can I bring my son with me?

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't even ask me no question like that.

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:57.720
<v Speaker 1>He said, you know, it's it's just about the family.

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>It's about doing things, and a lot of teams wouldn't

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 1>let you do that. You know, it's because that members

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 1>was remember the Lakers back and the day you say

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>he can't get the flight back now was liability, you know,

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 1>insurance thing.

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what is this a flight hole? What?

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:14.399
<v Speaker 1>So? But pot was He's he was really really good

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 1>about man, if it came down to your family, you

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>do whatever it's necessary for your family. Everybody talking about

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 1>the relationship that they had with Duncan because I think

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 1>Duncan was the lynch pin because you could coach him

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Duncan hard, you can coach everybody else arm and Timmy

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>was receptive.

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 3>And that's what you have to Timmy.

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Timmy was one of these superstars that if you didn't

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 2>watch the game, you would never know he was a superstar.

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 2>He didn't dress like a superstar. Hell, I'm be showed up.

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 2>What you pick up an M D P Trover with

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 2>flip flopping shorts?

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 1>So like.

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 2>What Walder swing on George.

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Ball?

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, jeans choice? David Third like, hey, but that was Timmy?

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 2>What was it about Coach Pop and Tim's relationship that

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:10.760
<v Speaker 2>made it so unique and special?

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:13.399
<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna back this up a little bit

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>because you really have to credit David Robinson, Okay, because

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you think about he had David Robinson when Tim came

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>and David was like, Yo, this is what we do here,

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>and Tim just follow suit. You know, Tim is just

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that type of guy. He doesn't say much. You can talk.

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>If you talk about cars, he'll talk to you talk

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>about video games. He'll talk to you talk about poker,

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>those three things, and he'll talk about that.

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 3>He ain't gonna really talk to you.

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 1>For us, you know, we it took me a year

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>just to get him. Said a couple of words to me,

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>and but he is just a he. He is a

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>type of guy who's really focused. We don't you know,

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:47.959
<v Speaker 1>we always talk about Kobe's worker. I think we talked about.

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 1>But this dude was always in the gym shooting jump shots.

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm always trying to get to perfect that

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>bank shot.

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 3>If you know.

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>He was famous for shooting a lot of free throws

0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 1>because you know, that was one of.

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 3>His down when he came in. Yeah, and he just

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 3>he worked hard.

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>But he was just he if you talk about guys

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 1>who you know, I used to. I had to get

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.240
<v Speaker 1>on to him one time, like, dude, can you fucking

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>yell at somebody? Man, you sitting up there like with

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>your mouth closed, you know, you yell at someone, you're

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, yeah, fucking everybody's gonna perk up and listen.

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:22.280
<v Speaker 1>So he was just he was very mild man anyways,

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 1>mild mind. He didn't want to say much. But the

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>guy was he competed and he he was and when

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>he when he let you into his world, one of

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the nicest guys you'll meet.

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned the Twin Towers because David Robinson was there,

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.280
<v Speaker 2>but when David was, I mean they won them championship

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 2>with David, but David was on the tail end of

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 2>his career. That was that was I mean, basically Tim

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Dunkett team from the time he walked in the door,

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 2>it was he was just that good. And he was

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 2>one of the last guys that was a true senior

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 2>that was the number one overall. Kenya Martin was the

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 2>last one, I think in two thousand, but Timmy was

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 2>what ninety eight.

0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 3>I think the ninety eight draft was Timmy's first year.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 2>But he was the last, the last of those guys

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.359
<v Speaker 2>that went four years of college and came out. So

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 2>he was more than ready, more than prepared for the

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 2>grind because basically he was a grown man when he

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:15.479
<v Speaker 2>wasn't eighteen, he wasn't seventeen. Tim Dunckant was a twenty

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:16.959
<v Speaker 2>two year old grown man when he got.

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 3>To the NBA. You tell me something I did not know.

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 3>I thought he came out earlier.

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>You just so you see everybody coming up earlier, you know,

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.720
<v Speaker 1>thinking about and that's the one thing I hate about

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the NBA.

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:28.720
<v Speaker 3>I know, these dududes.

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Are freaking twenty one when they get to college now,

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 1>but I just wish that that that that I was

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 1>about to say David Stern that Adam Silver put like

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 1>two years onto it. Because these guys, you can tell

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 1>by the way these guys play. Now, that's why so

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>many threes are being shot because they don't know how

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>to play. They're doing what's easy. It's taking the threes

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 1>and there learning the game. You know, you got some

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>guys that are gonna come in the league that know

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>how to play the game because of the upbringing and

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:54.399
<v Speaker 1>how they would talk.

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 3>But it's just it's just it's just a lot.

0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Of bad basketball being played because guys don't know how

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to play. You know, do you think about tonight washing

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the game? Like, dude, the first thing you learned in

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 1>high school and college is how to beat the damn zone.

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 3>The zone is the easiest freaking thing to beat. And

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 3>you can't beat the zone.

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like go to the Oprah spots, go to the

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Dunker spot, go back door. And it just shows you

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 1>right there that the guys aren't learning anything because they

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 1>all just trying to, you know, get to the next

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 1>level to the league without learning something. M Rob, you

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 1>played with some of the greats. I mean, you was

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 1>on team with him, Duncan. You was on a team

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:27.239
<v Speaker 1>with Shaq and Kobe. You're on the King with a

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>lot Dream and Drexler, And I know people ask you

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>what the difference between Dream and Duncan, the difference between

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Duncan and Shaq, the difference between Clyde and Kobe. What

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.840
<v Speaker 1>are some of the different look because look, all of

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.400
<v Speaker 1>those guys that I just mentioned are all the seventy

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:45.760
<v Speaker 1>five greatest players in the NBA.

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 2>History, MVP's Finals, MVPs, Defensive Players of the Year. When

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 2>you got when you got to the Rockets, what was

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 2>it about the Dream that you know, okay and this

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 2>gout special?

0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 3>What set him apart? Shit?

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I knew he was special when I watched him in

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:05.280
<v Speaker 1>high school in college because when I was coming.

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 3>Out, I want to play alongside this guy.

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was praying that I went to the

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Rockets and the guy was and I did because you

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>could just see his work ethic, you know, you watch him.

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, guys always talking about going into the lab.

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Dream would be in the lab and we didn't even

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>know it. He would be working on stuff and then

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.360
<v Speaker 1>he'll just all of a sudden in the game. You know,

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 1>you think about ninety five high annihilated David Robinson. Yeah,

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 1>because he said they took the game. Yeah, all that

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:33.879
<v Speaker 1>stuff we had never seen before. You should have seen

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:36.920
<v Speaker 1>us on the court. We're going like, oh, he became

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 1>fans on the court, right, and so he just and

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you watch him, man, he just played hard. Man you

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 1>think about you know, back in the day when he

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 1>you forget, he used to knock some people out too.

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you know he had that toughness. You know,

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 3>you l on him.

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.840
<v Speaker 1>He was he was because only a fifty dollars fires,

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, push him in the face, and so he

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:56.919
<v Speaker 1>had that toughness and he just had that.

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 3>The one thing about Dream though, is.

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.959
<v Speaker 1>We talk about how hard guys plays, like how hard

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Yannis plays.

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.399
<v Speaker 3>How hard Bronze and place, how hard he's got.

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Dream played hard each and every night, and you know,

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>people would talk about who's the greatest center, who's this?

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 3>Who is that?

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Dream to me is always gonna be top three centers

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 1>because if he needed to shoot threes, he could have

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>shot threes. He didn't because he had us out there

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and you couldn't stop him in the paint any damn way.

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 3>So he's just gonna kill you that with you. So

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 3>he was just you know, he was just.

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 1>A hard worker and the more important great guy because

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 1>he taught me about the business of basketball.

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 3>He was like yo.

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I remember one time at a Christmas part he took

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 1>me outside and said, listen, listen, you're gonna be on

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:43.720
<v Speaker 1>this team. Now, let's talk about, you know, things outside

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 1>of basketball. What you're doing with your money. You know,

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 1>how's the family? You know, are you investing? Do you

0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 1>have the right people? He was just a good guy.

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, a lot of guys now you know they

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 1>won't They won't come to you and be like, yo, man,

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you need to check your findance.

0:47:57.200 --> 0:47:58.839
<v Speaker 3>You need to do this. They like, fuck you.

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I learned it on my own, you know, and so

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I just that's one of the things I loved about dreams.

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>He taught me about the business of basketball. So you

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>leave Houston and you go to the let well you

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 1>know you have you didn't gonna right and go there.

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Man, you got to talk about the signs.

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Mantle you have a little Piers started saying it and

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:18.760
<v Speaker 2>feed it. You have a couple of coffee at the airport,

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 2>got right back on the plane and went to l A.

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 3>So you get to l a shock.

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 2>And Kobe mm hmmm, You're like, damn, got SHOQ, Got Kobe?

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 2>What what what y'all.

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 3>Need to be to do? Yeah. You know what's weird.

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:35.399
<v Speaker 1>When I got there, man, I'm looking at the team.

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:37.719
<v Speaker 1>We had Nick ban X at the point. Yep, we

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 1>had Eddie Jones at the two. I said, okay, I

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:42.400
<v Speaker 1>can play the three. You know, back then I was

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:44.359
<v Speaker 1>a three man. And I said, we got a young

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 1>guy like this. You know, everybody's like, oh, you got

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>to see this rookie Kobe Bryan. I'm like, who. And

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>then you can get to the practice. You see how

0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>good this dude is. Okay, he's learning, and then you

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 1>got shocked, you know, you say, okay, Shaq just got

0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>beaten ninety five in the finals, and you got all

0:48:57.640 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 1>this talent. I said, oh man, we about to do

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 1>some work. And so we're gonna do some work for

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 1>some years. Because everybody's young, everybody's on a thirty. But

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it goes to show you too many cooks in

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen when it comes to basketball ain't good. You

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta have some guys that are blue guys, some screw guys,

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, some boats and and do the things to

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>keep the team together. And you think about we had

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.840
<v Speaker 1>four All Stars and then we got swept by a

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 1>damn team that has been together for thirty years.

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 3>That was Kobe's rookie year, wasn't it. That was Kobe's

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 3>rookie year. Yeah, yep.

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 1>And then and then and then ninety nine, you know,

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 1>we got beat We got beat by the Spurs, lost

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the last game in the form to the Spurs. And

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 1>then that was when we got new coaches, and we

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 1>said we got rid of Nick, we got rid of Eddie,

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and we bought in defensive minded people. You know. He

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>brought in Ron Harper, We bought in b Shaw, we

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:46.759
<v Speaker 1>bought in Rick Fox.

0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:48.839
<v Speaker 3>We did all these things. Brought in a C. Green

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 3>and it was that glue who was whole.

0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Grant did a whole great only came.

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:54.320
<v Speaker 3>For the last hope.

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Grant was on the second champion in two thousand and

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one.

0:49:57.640 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, so, and it was just weird, man.

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 1>You just and it goes to show you when you

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 1>got too much talent, but when you got when you

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 1>got enough talent and you got guys who mature, and

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>you can you can tell Kobe and Shot to shut

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>up and sit you ass down and do what you're

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:15.399
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do. They gonna they gonna, you think about it.

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.319
<v Speaker 1>We used to tell Kobe, all, dude, you ain't doing

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that at night a Shack, you ain't doing that.

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 3>And they would listen to us because we are veteran guys.

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Now you got this going on.

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Guy, you know, respect us and we had a lot

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:29.919
<v Speaker 1>of respect for one another, and it was no animosity.

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 1>And people always ask me about the Kobe Shaq thing.

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, I must have been fucking blinded

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 1>because they never had beef in front of us. It

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:41.400
<v Speaker 1>was all in the papers man, you know, And that

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 1>was the weirdest thing. When people like, we'll talk about it,

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm like they in the locker room, laughing and joking.

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:49.720
<v Speaker 1>They the first people to hug after a championship. I know.

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>You tell me you you want a championship. Who was

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the first person you honged, you hugged after you want

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.240
<v Speaker 1>to Champion's probably your favorite player.

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:56.480
<v Speaker 3>On the team.

0:50:56.920 --> 0:51:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And so that's why I was like, men arriving says, oh,

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:00.840
<v Speaker 1>they're decent.

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, when where? So it was just weird to me.

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:04.720
<v Speaker 3>How cool with Shaq?

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 2>You look at Shack and I tell people I would

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 2>pay people realize how athletic Shock was. When Shaq got

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:11.800
<v Speaker 2>to the league, like Shaq first five or six years

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 2>when Shaq was like seven one three twenty five and

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:16.919
<v Speaker 2>can move like a dear. We're never going to see

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 2>that again. Yeah, you never got your size with that

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 2>kind ofigility. You're just not Now. You might have like

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Yoga's got the footwork and Joel of me got footwork,

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:28.320
<v Speaker 2>but I'm talking about your raw athleticism and power.

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're gonna again. Never, yeah, never.

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, you think about if he always tell if

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you start a team, if I could take the two thousand,

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:40.879
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen nine nine, two thousand shock, the MVP shack

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and have him that shack and put him on, that's

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:47.879
<v Speaker 1>my first person, Not Jordan, not Dream, not Kareem. That's

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the first person I'm picked to start my mind, if

0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I can get that shack because he was just so dominant,

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>he was just so strong, so athletic.

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 3>You thinking about this, this guy can bring.

0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 1>The ball down, cross your spin, take from outside the paint,

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 1>then monkey dunck on your ass and then you can

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:03.719
<v Speaker 1>do it.

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:04.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, And.

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 1>You go back and look at a lot of tape

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 1>and I've heard this out of Reugh mouth, so I'm

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.839
<v Speaker 1>sitting there. You can hear all you is on him

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and he's not getting the call. He's like, oh, he's

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 1>too big, he should be able to handle that. I'm like, dude,

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a freaking file. He's slapping his show. Y'all say

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:22.160
<v Speaker 1>all right, y'all gonna piss him off, and then I'm

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna get out of the way cause hes gonna start

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:26.240
<v Speaker 1>elbowing people. And you can tell when he got frustrated,

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 1>cause he'll do that spin. He don't care who I'm like,

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 1>so yeah he was. He was like I said, if

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:42.919
<v Speaker 1>you got one player, one moment, I'm taking nineteen ninety nine,

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 1>two thousand shock and I'm starting the team with that guy.

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:50.400
<v Speaker 2>If I can get that guy each and every night, okay, Kobe, Kobe.

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 2>If a seventeen, he gets there seventeen. Now by the

0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:57.760
<v Speaker 2>time they start to win championships, he's the Kobe. He's

0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 2>he's become what he became, and you get to see

0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:04.799
<v Speaker 2>it on full display. He can still elevate over the top.

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 2>He got the minute he could up. Oh he had

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.960
<v Speaker 2>he had the package. And if you need him to

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 2>sit in the chair for forty minutes and take the polling

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:15.240
<v Speaker 2>team's point two.

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:19.879
<v Speaker 1>And three best player and he wanted that challenge. And

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you, you know, I know you think Lebron

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 1>is the greatest of all time. And you people talk about, uh,

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:29.000
<v Speaker 1>MJ been the greatest of all time. Why don't you

0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 1>think you when you watch Kobe Bryant, he did every

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:38.279
<v Speaker 1>freaking thing like MJ. And he probably took it to

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 1>another level because Kobe. You know, when Kobe first came

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in the league, we used to laugh and joke him

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:44.759
<v Speaker 1>like you can't shoot threes?

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:47.799
<v Speaker 3>He just shoot threes like MJ. But he we would

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 3>like joke with him.

0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:51.919
<v Speaker 1>So that dude been in the gym every morning at

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 1>five o'clock shooting number threes and now he can shoot threes.

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's things like that that why he was great.

0:53:57.600 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>You could tell him he was not good at something,

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:02.719
<v Speaker 1>he would prove you wrong by going and working on

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>it and added to his game. This dude, you know,

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 1>God rest his soul. Was the hardest working dude I've

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:11.919
<v Speaker 1>ever seen in my life. And you think about where

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:15.879
<v Speaker 1>he went from his rookie year where he just played Wow. Yeah,

0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you know he didn't have no structure to his game

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 1>to understanding that, Oh, I got to tone this down

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:22.799
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if it's because he talked to MJ,

0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:26.160
<v Speaker 1>he talked to Field and whatnot. But when he got filled,

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:30.400
<v Speaker 1>it made him more structure than I've ever seen before.

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 1>So the dude was just phenomenal.

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:32.799
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.719
<v Speaker 1>So I hate when we talk about the goat and

0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:38.799
<v Speaker 1>we never bring him up like because it's like, you know,

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:39.480
<v Speaker 1>to me, the.

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Goats are.

0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:45.880
<v Speaker 1>MJ, Kobe, Lebron, and Kareem. Those are the goats. And

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:47.839
<v Speaker 1>why do we have to put one, one, two, one,

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.919
<v Speaker 1>three and four? Those four guys right there? Why Gay camps?

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Just four ghosts? That's the mount rushmore right there?

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Why why didn't playing on that team alongside Shaq and Kobe?

0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Why didn't they win more individual MVPs?

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Kobe didn't win one until later late like two thousand

0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 2>and one, I think two thousand and nine to twenty and.

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Ten, he won the MVP.

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Why didn't they win if Why didn't Shaq win more MVPs?

0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Why didn't Kobe win MVPs? Did they cancel each other out?

0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:16.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they counted each other.

0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I just think you know, if you if you look

0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 1>at the league back then, it was hard to win

0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 1>back to backs unless she was a white guy.

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:25.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean Steve Nash.

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:28.920
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, you think about that second Steve

0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Nash have it for real though.

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:34.759
<v Speaker 3>So it's so many things you can look at it.

0:55:34.880 --> 0:55:37.040
<v Speaker 3>It's just weird. You know. You think about MJ when

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:37.760
<v Speaker 3>he was in the league.

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>He didn't win it every year, you know, it's always

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:44.359
<v Speaker 1>someone different. And like you think about this year, even

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:47.759
<v Speaker 1>though Jokic is having the best freaking career, best year

0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:48.759
<v Speaker 1>of his career, he.

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Ain't gonna Wina, you know, and and and it's just

0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 3>how they do it.

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:56.359
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know why, but I think Kobe should

0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:57.439
<v Speaker 1>have probably run at least three.

0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 3>Shack should run at least that's just actually won at

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 3>least two.

0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think I say, the year he wanted

0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:06.319
<v Speaker 1>he should have won it, and then the following.

0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Year he should have won it. Okay, you know.

0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Other than that, I think, you know, because you think

0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 1>about his third our third championship, he wasn't as dominant

0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 1>as he was. He was still effective, he just didn't

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:18.320
<v Speaker 1>bring that you think about it, he wasn't the Shack

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 1>before that, and that's what they based off. They always say, Okay,

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take your last year. What did you do

0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>better than that year. And I think he was just consistent.

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:30.720
<v Speaker 1>He never like went up a little bit to another level.

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh, Jim Duncan. Yeah, Tim Duncan had one of the

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:40.319
<v Speaker 2>great games. He had a damn near quadruple double. He

0:56:40.400 --> 0:56:43.239
<v Speaker 2>was two blocks away from a quadruple double in an

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:47.280
<v Speaker 2>NBA Finals game when he played when he played the Nets,

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>uh that year, I think he had twenty one points,

0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:53.799
<v Speaker 2>twenty rebound hit, a fists and eight blocks.

0:56:55.000 --> 0:57:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's a nets man in this We had

0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 3>just swear and just swept.

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>The next year before that or whatever it wasn't next

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, poor poor Jason, Richard Jefferson, that crew.

0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:09.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, you were the beast in the East. But

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:11.480
<v Speaker 1>when it came to playing teams used to wear it.

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>You was just like you like the legs and the clippers,

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:16.880
<v Speaker 1>just a little brother. So it was it was they

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:19.000
<v Speaker 1>made it a good challenge. But you go back and

0:57:19.040 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 1>look at the East. Back then East was terrible man

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and so but Tim Duncan though, that goes to show

0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:28.919
<v Speaker 1>you when he wants to take over, he can take

0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 1>over man. He and and the one thing I like

0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:34.840
<v Speaker 1>about Tim when he comes to blocking shots, he didn't

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 1>care if you dunked him. He's like, shit, I don't care.

0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know have social media. I don't care what

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you say. You know, people in San Antonio gonna still

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 1>bow down to me. And you know most guys were

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:45.120
<v Speaker 1>shop away from trying to, you know, go up against

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the venice car think you might get dunked on. They're like, no,

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I ain't challenging that. Tim didn't give a shit. He

0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:51.480
<v Speaker 1>would try to challenge you anywhere to block it because

0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 1>he knew nine times out of ten he was gonna

0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:55.040
<v Speaker 1>block it.

0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:56.640
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna start a fast break.

0:57:57.040 --> 0:58:00.840
<v Speaker 2>All right, your Mount Rushmore teammates. You get four teammates

0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 2>on on Mitt Rushmore. Who you going with?

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Dream Shaq, Kobe Clyde.

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Damn, you ain't cloud over Timmy.

0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what this is the one other things you know,

0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I love Timmy. I'm going with Clyde. Clyde, my boy man.

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:25.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes personal feelings get in the way. So hey,

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing to Steve Kurr right now. Hey, But you know,

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 1>people don't. I think people forget how good Clyde was.

0:58:35.520 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he come, he took a kind of a

0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 2>backseat roll when he got to Houston. But but but Clyde, Clyde,

0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I remember, hell, I remember what he was dunking on

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 2>everybody at five Slamma Jaman in the.

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:51.200
<v Speaker 1>University of Houston. But he used to Clyde used to elevate.

0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know.

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:55.640
<v Speaker 1>And another reason I ain't put Tim in that because

0:58:55.680 --> 0:58:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember, you know, I'm Washington Hall of Fame ceremony

0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and watch Rudy T getting inducted. And then when Rudy

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 1>T gave me a shout out for the Hall of

0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Fame and they're paying through the crowd, and Tim then clapped.

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:15.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I ain't on my right because I

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:18.400
<v Speaker 1>just got I thought it comes to motherfucker, I saved.

0:59:18.400 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 1>You don't answer two thousand.

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 3>And five excuse about life like you better get your

0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:22.920
<v Speaker 3>hands up and clap.

0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Damn.

0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:29.720
<v Speaker 2>They Spurns got some cap space.

0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 3>They got it. They got to night Day.

0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:34.520
<v Speaker 2>They got Stefan Castle's Rookie of the Year. Wimby was

0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:37.720
<v Speaker 2>the previous rookie of the year. They got do they

0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:40.360
<v Speaker 2>would you make the move for y honest? Would you

0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:45.080
<v Speaker 2>try to package some pieces for y? Honis that's the

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 2>thing you got? You forgot about Darren Fox?

0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 1>That's that's hard to say. I would because you can't

0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 1>pass them. Oh, I think that's gonna be the hottest

0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 1>commanded this summer. Everybody's going wrong with the great treat

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<v Speaker 1>because he's that type of player. You know, I missed

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<v Speaker 1>him really how hard he played. So this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be really interesting to see where he goes. If Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 1>want to give him up. But if I'm the if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the Spurs, we got the cast space to why

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<v Speaker 1>not go after him because you know he'll love it

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<v Speaker 1>there because he got a good The one thing about

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<v Speaker 1>the Spurs franchise is a good franchise. They're very humble

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<v Speaker 1>franchised and you don't have to worry about a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of outside No. If you think about in La, in

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago, New York, there's a lot of outside knowing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you being in Milwaukee are used to the outside. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been at a minimum. So if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Spurs, you in the same thing. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he wants that. I don't know if he wants,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be more. You know, I can't get no

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<v Speaker 1>more notable as Greek freak. But does he want a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger market? That's why it boils down. He wants that market.

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<v Speaker 4>It boils down to a bigger market. I haven't talked

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<v Speaker 4>to Greek freak, but I talked to the powers that be.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna do everything we can to get him down

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<v Speaker 4>here in Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm told. I'm told that already.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure why he continues to add that question. Hey, Rob,

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<v Speaker 4>I've sat down with Mickey Harrison. I sat down with

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<v Speaker 4>pat Riley. Patts is willing to change some of his

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<v Speaker 4>ways and and let the reins go a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>on the way he conducts himself and to.

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<v Speaker 3>Come to to the entity that is known as the

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<v Speaker 3>Miami Heat. So uh, and we also wanna get John

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<v Speaker 3>wrong too. They don't want that dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just telling you, telling you he would fit

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<v Speaker 1>in great in Miami. But you're gonna have to give up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot to get him to Miami. That's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to get it. But if you give up stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be right where the Phoenix Suns are. You

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<v Speaker 3>give up all that.

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<v Speaker 1>You got three guys making one hundred and fifty million,

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<v Speaker 1>but your bench sucks. Yeah, left the nuggets. He went

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<v Speaker 1>to the next but what he wanted to play with.

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<v Speaker 1>They ended up going to going to Denver, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you had to trade those draft picks. So now you there,

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<v Speaker 1>you basically by yourself, like you when you were in

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<v Speaker 1>them in Denver.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna we're gonna make it. We're gonna make it work.

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<v Speaker 1>The volume