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Speaker 1: Get your tickets now seven the Rockets. Yeah, the Rockets

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Speaker 1: are going back home thanks to a definitive Now, don't

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Speaker 1: let the score fool you.

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Speaker 3: One fifteen to one oh eight.

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Speaker 2: But when they emptied the benches, I think, if I'm

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Speaker 2: not mistaken, they were down by like fifteen. But the

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Speaker 2: Rockets did an unbelievable job. They got great performances. Fred

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Speaker 2: van Fleet played forty minutes. He was six or nine

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Speaker 2: from the three, nine or nine from the free throw line,

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Speaker 2: twenty nine big points. Shungoon had twenty one and fourteen

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Speaker 2: and six. He played outstanding. But Rob you know this,

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Speaker 2: when you play on the road and you're trying to

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Speaker 2: force a game seven, or you're trying to close out

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Speaker 2: a series, you start your guys that you count on

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Speaker 2: need to play well, but you need to get some

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Speaker 2: production from somebody.

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Speaker 3: You don't expect it now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the most points that

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Speaker 2: Steven Adams has ever scored in the game. I know

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Speaker 2: it's not the most rebound or the most blocks, but

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Speaker 2: this might be the most impactful game that he's played

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Speaker 2: his entire career. And he's played a lot of playoff

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Speaker 2: basketball game. He's played a lot of games. But tonight

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Speaker 2: I believe he was the difference maker because he got rebounds,

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Speaker 2: he kept possessions alive, he blockshot. He changed it when

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Speaker 2: they went to that big lineup with him and Shandon

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Speaker 2: in there. That changed that changed it quite wrong.

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Speaker 1: You know. The one thing you can't teach the size.

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Speaker 1: And I say that all the time. You know, you

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Speaker 1: just say your your favorite team just went down because

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Speaker 1: they elected not to use their size. And when you

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Speaker 1: got a small team those the State is a small

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Speaker 1: he be carvering out that room, be grabbing rebounds, be

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Speaker 1: Stephen Adam is. You know, you look at Josh. John's

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I mean you look, you look at it.

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Speaker 2: He made like two or three buckets with the shot

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Speaker 2: clock winding down. He had two big threes. He were

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Speaker 2: one stree. He got up off the floor. There was

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Speaker 2: a scrabble for the ball. Brand Fleet gainst it and

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Speaker 2: kicks it back. He gives up off the floor Hill.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was Ray Allen for just a Second's

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Speaker 2: State was trying to make that move, trying to create

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Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets tonight. I think they got thirty two

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Speaker 2: thirty two big points, sixteen thirty three, thirty six big

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Speaker 2: points from the bench. The guys played really well. The

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Speaker 2: starters played well. Brooks got in fouled trouble and Adoka

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Speaker 2: didn't didn't have a choice but to send him to

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Speaker 2: the bench, But I thought their backup played extremely well.

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Speaker 2: Your role players. You got what you expected from Van Fleet.

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Speaker 2: Outside of that first two games, he's been light side

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Speaker 2: rocked from the three point line. He's been going crazy,

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Speaker 2: I mean crazy. And then you got shing Gooon. He's

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Speaker 2: an All Star for a reason. He gave you that.

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Speaker 2: And then you get Adams coming off the bench and

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Speaker 2: giving you what he gave you. They got a lot

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Speaker 2: of confidence because they won back to back games. They

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Speaker 2: forced the game six. Now they forced the game seven.

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Speaker 2: The Warriors have their work cut up for them. They

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Speaker 2: went colding that fourth quarter of the start. They couldn't

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Speaker 2: get anything to fall and lead. That was what three

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Speaker 2: four points all of a sudden went to twelve and

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Speaker 2: the Rockets didn't let off the gas and they didn't

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Speaker 2: look back. Oh Joe Warriors. Yeah, I thought Steph had

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Speaker 2: it gold. He got hot there for a second, him

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Speaker 2: and Jimmy, But they didn't get enough from the auxillary players.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, listen the Warriors. The stars showed up. That

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Speaker 3: showed up. Obviously, we didn't. We didn't see the Steph

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Speaker 4: Obviously, he had twenty nine points, but it took twenty

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Speaker 4: three shots to get there. Jimmy Butler had twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: But listen, some goom but young Bulls Special, Young Bullet

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Speaker 4: Special and Van Fleet showed up the night and then

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Speaker 4: what he needed to do at being the veteran presence

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Speaker 4: that the Rockets do have. Listen, them young boys, them

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Speaker 4: young bulls looked like they wanted it more. Yeah, the

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Speaker 4: intensity they played on both both sides of the floor.

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Speaker 3: Spacey was really good.

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Speaker 4: And that goddamn Steven Adams Listen, he was probably the

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Speaker 4: difference makeup when you when you talk about the size

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Speaker 4: in which the Rockets have and how small, how small

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Speaker 4: the Warriors are, I think it comes down to making

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Speaker 4: more shots because those those those second those second what

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Speaker 4: do you call it second when you get the second attempts? Yeah, bingo,

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Speaker 4: that's that's what he's trying to say. That the second

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Speaker 4: attempts that the Rockets had is the reason why they

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Speaker 4: won the game. And obviously them playing with a little

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Speaker 4: bit more fire, like they wanted a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: Even though the experience of the Warriors who have been

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Speaker 4: in positions like this before and had the experience with

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Speaker 4: the dray Bonds, you know, the Jimmy butlers that it

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Speaker 4: used to be in in playoff atmospheres. Them young bulls

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Speaker 4: look like they wanted more and listen like you say,

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Speaker 4: they got they they got their stuff cut out for

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Speaker 4: him having to travel. Now they got to go the

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Speaker 4: goddamn Houston and seal the deal.

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Speaker 3: You gotta believe what they what they are. Never Rudy T.

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Speaker 2: Never underestimate the heart of a champion. These rockets on

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Speaker 2: the champions. But that's what Rudy T carting to play

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Speaker 2: coin to praise and his stuff. I think the thing

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Speaker 2: is that when they went to that big lineup, because

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Speaker 2: Draymond is undersize, you can't play lonly because it gives

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Speaker 2: you nothing on our fence. Post wasn't hitting any shots,

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Speaker 2: so you can't play him. So you're really trying to say, Draymond,

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Speaker 2: I need you to keep seven foot three hundred pounds

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Speaker 2: Stephen Adams off the glass. I need you to keep

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Speaker 2: six ten six eleven Shing Goon off the glass. You're

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Speaker 2: asking too much, and you see they started to wear

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Speaker 2: him down over and over over and over again. Second

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Speaker 2: chance points. They did a great job of finan shing

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Speaker 2: Goon in the high post and then guess what he

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Speaker 2: takes one dribble, he drops it off to Steven Adams

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Speaker 2: a dunk, or he drops it off he finds a

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Speaker 2: A Thompson for a layup. He played extremely well tonight.

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Speaker 2: I expected I expected Van Pleet because they got to

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Speaker 2: do something with Van Pleet. They because he's walking in, shooting,

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Speaker 2: shoot around, freeze. He's feeling that. It's that comfortable.

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Speaker 1: You know. For me, I knew war was in trouble

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Speaker 1: from jump because any time you change your lineup, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's like a sign to the other team like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what to do with you now.

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Speaker 3: The rockets you.

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Speaker 1: Know there when you're that young, anything can give you emotion,

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Speaker 1: get the sparked and your energy. They are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we got him scared. And you think about this. They

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Speaker 1: changed the line and then look what happened Jr. There

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Speaker 1: because they wanted somebody to slow vamp feet down. Why

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Speaker 1: you know they don't why change it because you just

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Speaker 1: talked about offense. You know that's no offense right there.

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Speaker 1: And then you got Buddy Hill. We all know Buddy

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Speaker 1: Hill is not a defensive player.

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Speaker 2: But the one thing that's that Kurr is gonna He's

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Speaker 2: gonna do the same thing that JJ Redick did and

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Speaker 2: by himself in the butt with it by not playing

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Speaker 2: him coming here because you need size and you need

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Speaker 2: athleticism go up against this this rocket leting because athletic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're gonna because you mad this dude. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. If you curse him out

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Speaker 1: or something, he won't plan. But this is your third

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Speaker 1: leading scorer on the team. He was his secondly go

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Speaker 1: on the team until you got butt of the Butler.

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Speaker 1: But now you're not playing them, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's going on right there. But that's gonna cost them

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Speaker 1: in this series because now you don't get the Rockets

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Speaker 1: all type of energy, and they gonna go back and

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Speaker 1: probably win this series because you elect to do some

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Speaker 1: dumb stuff like in game four, I mean Game five,

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Speaker 1: game and tonight, you know, you know what I mean before.

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Speaker 4: You go with I think what I think for the

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Speaker 4: words obviously going into Game seven, what's going to have

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Speaker 4: to happen regardless of what the Rockets do. I think

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Speaker 4: it's gonna have to be Jimmy Butler and the it's

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Speaker 4: going back to Curry. Curry findings to be a little

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Speaker 4: bit more efficient from the field to overcome all the

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Speaker 4: things that the Rockets do, whether they go big, whether

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Speaker 3: But I thought you don't. He did a great thing.

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Speaker 3: He went to the zone.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I don't want to have happened is

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Speaker 3: But hey, yeah, hey uncle, hey Rob.

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Speaker 4: I mean you could probably attest to this, obviously being

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Speaker 1: See Steph gotta hit the shots. Two six to sixteen

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Speaker 3: A lot of his threes to me were bad threes.

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Speaker 1: And for me, Draymond got to keep his cool because

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Speaker 3: I just learned how to play with this guy. It's

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Speaker 4: So Nobby is gonna ask Rob obviously, listen, you can

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Speaker 1: Don't think he's gonna play him at all. I don't

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Speaker 3: So you rather what does it? You know, despite he

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Speaker 4: They got going on, you rather chance losing game seven

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: I've been playing in regardless because you know, for me,

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Speaker 2: That wasn't my original plan, but let me try to

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Speaker 1: But now it's condensed Draymond. Draymond is not a thread

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Speaker 3: By you're in trouble. You and you're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: That start happening because he feels it and now there

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Speaker 1: You know, it's weird because Moody has been playing very

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Speaker 1: You know, people forget the Rockets or a defensive team

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Speaker 1: because you.

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Speaker 3: Got he made back there.

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of guys that know how to

436
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Speaker 1: play defense at long, the athletics, so you're going to

437
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Speaker 1: have to share the basketball if they want to try

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Speaker 1: to come back and win this series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Thompson who's long and athletic, Delan Brooks

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Speaker 2: and one of the defensive stopper Easton Steven Adams.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they got guys that can pressure the basketball.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm doing everything I possibly can to not

443
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Speaker 2: let stuff get going early in that game seven, that's

444
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Speaker 2: the last thing I wanted to do. Have like ten

445
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Speaker 2: to twelve points in the first quarter. Now he gets

446
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Speaker 2: an extended rest for the second because you got to

447
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Speaker 2: think about it to night. He played forty two minutes.

448
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Speaker 2: Steps don't normally play those kind of minutes.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of minutes for a guy at his age.

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Speaker 1: People don't people talking about Lebron. He runs because he's

451
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Speaker 1: perpetual motion.

452
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Speaker 2: He's not a guy that's taking a lot of break

453
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Speaker 2: because he has to work. He's working to get his shot.

454
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Speaker 2: So he's from sideline to the baseline to baseline.

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Speaker 1: And then you forget it's not two games to rest days. No,

456
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Speaker 1: he's lay off play. So he only got one day arrest,

457
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Speaker 1: twenty four hours back on that court. So that's and

458
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Speaker 1: then he got a fly yeah. Yeah, and it's a

459
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Speaker 1: three hour flight maybe four because you might not take

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Speaker 1: off a Francisco all that damn fog sometimes, so you.

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Speaker 2: Can't get out of that. Fred van Fleet is, now,

462
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Speaker 2: what'd you say? You said something?

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Speaker 3: No, I was gonna say the good thing.

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Speaker 4: The good thing about Steph the chances of him having

465
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Speaker 4: a game like this like tonight where it takes him

466
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Speaker 4: so many shots to even get to twenty nine, twenty seven,

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Speaker 4: whatever the points he had, he ain't gonna ain't gonna

468
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Speaker 4: double that. He's not gonna have another game like that.

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be much more efficient. Buddy Hill

470
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Speaker 4: probably gonna be much better, and they probably gonna get

471
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Speaker 4: Buddy Hill, Buddy Hill going early. And I really, for

472
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Speaker 4: some reason, I don't know why, where Kerr really understanding.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Dremond and maybe Steph will probably talk to

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Speaker 4: Kurr with great understanding.

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Speaker 3: We need a little bit more help, we need a

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Speaker 3: little bit more size.

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Speaker 4: You know, you got to do something and get community

478
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Speaker 4: in there some kind of way before we be sitting

479
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Speaker 4: at home and god damn can.

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Speaker 2: Coon I've had to rock out what they did for

481
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Speaker 2: They put a lot of pressure on them. They shot

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Speaker 2: forty six free throws, Bob, they shot forty six free throws.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while since our team to see the

484
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Speaker 2: team shoot forty six free throws. But sixteen of those

485
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Speaker 2: with the Steven autos and a lot of that had

486
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Speaker 2: to do it connected. They would hack Adams and you

487
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Speaker 2: know Donald Stretch, he made them pay for that.

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Speaker 3: He was mad.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the things where you try that, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's all that Pops Doug Mimry Pop did that against

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Speaker 1: Shack and you know the hacker Shock. And you gotta

492
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Speaker 1: think about some of these guys. You make one, you

493
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Speaker 1: make two, you got to go away from it because

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Speaker 1: that guy has a little real You know, sometime you

495
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Speaker 1: want to trust the process. You talk about following your

496
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Speaker 1: game plan. There's certain game plans you have to scrap.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Steven Adams is you know, you know she his free

499
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Speaker 1: throw percentision might be bad, but the dude, you look

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Speaker 1: at his form, the way he approaches it, everything is

501
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Speaker 1: fundamentally sounds so he can knock him down. He just

502
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Speaker 1: don't knock him down because he don't shoot it a lot.

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Speaker 1: So it looked like a percentage. You're bad, right the Rockets,

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Speaker 1: excuse me. The Warriors shot twenty two free throws. All

505
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Speaker 1: of them came from three guys. Draymond was one for two,

506
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Speaker 1: Jimmy was twelve or fourteen, and Steph was five or six.

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Speaker 3: So that tells me they're not nearly aggressive enough.

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Speaker 2: When you only got three guys to take your free

509
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Speaker 2: throw attempts, that means But but the thing.

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Speaker 1: Is, that's not that's what you tho. That's not that's

511
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Speaker 1: what you get from a jump shooting team. When you

512
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Speaker 1: shoot jump shots, you don't to the free throw line.

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Speaker 1: And the thing about you know, you talk about analytics

514
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Speaker 1: or basketball shooting threes. I've always had the mindset, if

515
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Speaker 1: you're shooting the threes, you're playing soft. Why because you're

516
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Speaker 1: not trying to create shots. You're not trying to get

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Speaker 1: to the rack. So you're taking the easy way out.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna pull a full three. Think about that.

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Speaker 1: If I pull up full three, that's easy. Now, if

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Speaker 1: I had to cross on, use spin get to the rack.

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Speaker 1: That's hard work. You think about a man, a man

522
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Speaker 1: only he don't mind that work. You just saw he

523
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Speaker 1: put in that work. And now you get to these

524
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Speaker 1: guys wanna shoot jump shots. You're not gonna get to

525
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Speaker 1: the file line. And the only reason Step gets those

526
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Speaker 1: files sometimes because if you watch closely, he's causing the contact.

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Speaker 3: He's really good at that.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and I hate when he does that because

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Speaker 1: a lot of times when he does it, he's not

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Speaker 1: even concentrating on the shot.

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Speaker 3: He's concentrating on the file.

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Speaker 1: Just take the damn shot to make the shot if

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Speaker 1: you get filed so bit.

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, Rob, I got I just want to say

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Speaker 4: one thing about you talk about Curry being able to

536
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Speaker 4: put the ball on the floor and create his own

537
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Speaker 4: space in his own shot. You mentioned Anthony Edwards, joh

538
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Speaker 4: Moran can do it as well. But you have to

539
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Speaker 4: think about it. When you look at the landscape of

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Speaker 4: all the teams in the NBA, including those in the playoffs,

541
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Speaker 4: it's only maybe one or two players on each team

542
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Speaker 4: that can do that, that can go iceo, that can

543
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Speaker 4: put the ball on the floor and create their own shots.

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Speaker 3: So it's not that many of them. So once you

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Speaker 3: take that.

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Speaker 4: When you trap a player like a Curry and they

547
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Speaker 4: have to facilitate, then now you've got to get everybody

548
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Speaker 4: that's involved, and.

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Speaker 3: It puts pressure on them that I didn't. I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: There's still a game of basketball and everybody, like I'm

551
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Speaker 4: told me before, everybody didn't have the green light to

552
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Speaker 4: shoot the ball. That will Well, no, I just learned that.

553
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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, well, hell, if I'm open, just shoot. You

554
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Speaker 4: learn that every.

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Speaker 3: Head. That's why you have.

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Speaker 1: They go play the percentage they gonna let you take

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Speaker 1: that shot.

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Speaker 3: You guard you. Yeah, I ain't ain't all that.

559
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Speaker 2: Brad van Fleet last three games he had twenty nine points.

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Speaker 2: He has six threes. Tonight twenty six points, four three,

561
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Speaker 2: twenty five points eight May three. So his last his

562
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Speaker 2: last three ball games, he's got eighteen mad threes, more

563
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Speaker 2: points and threes than stuff he's been. Look, he's the

564
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Speaker 2: veteran presence on this team. He's the guy that's been

565
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Speaker 2: in championship moments. He's the guy who's been on that

566
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Speaker 2: stage in the Eastern Conference where they were, you know,

567
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Speaker 2: in the in the Eastern Conference finals, they went to

568
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Speaker 2: a championship. They led Kawhi led them to an NBA title.

569
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Speaker 2: He he's the guy. So this is what he needs

570
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Speaker 2: to do. Hey, follow me, follow me. He's the leader.

571
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Speaker 2: He did what he was supposed to do. He got

572
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Speaker 2: great contribution from Shingoon. Now, Shanoon is the best player,

573
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Speaker 2: but the veteran presidence the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah best, yes, better than yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 3: What did you talking? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Jaicular Greens only had one good game so far in

577
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Speaker 1: his playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was.

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Speaker 1: Three of eleven, one for six. He had twelve points.

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Speaker 1: Shan God is an all.

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm I'm just talking about I'm talking about you,

582
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Speaker 4: I know, single in the All Star and I'm just

583
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Speaker 4: saying Jayleen Green is supposed to be that next up

584
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Speaker 4: and coming, that boy in Houston.

585
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Speaker 3: Or am I mistaken?

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Speaker 1: No, You're not mistaken. But we up we're talking about

587
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Speaker 1: right now. We are talking about what you okayou yourtality

588
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Speaker 1: is still the best player. Because he's rebounded, he's uh,

589
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Speaker 1: he's going points, he's getting assists. Jalen Green is just

590
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Speaker 1: a high flyer right now, and that's all he's lopping

591
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Speaker 1: off of. He got to do more than try to

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Speaker 1: you know, that's the one thing that but I've watched

593
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Speaker 1: the NBA. Now there are so many guys that have

594
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Speaker 1: become showman. Instead of playing the damn game. They want

595
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Speaker 1: to do all these antis. When they hit a three,

596
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Speaker 1: they want to you know, it's just play the damn game.

597
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Speaker 1: You know, you make a damn shot, big damn deal.

598
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Speaker 1: You know, you get back and play some DV. It's

599
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Speaker 1: how many times have you seen a guy beat on

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Speaker 1: the other end of the defense because they're doing this ship.

601
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Speaker 1: Just get back and play. And that's one thing that

602
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Speaker 1: that you watch Jay Jayleen Green, he plays. He has

603
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Speaker 1: a tendency to like try to get to the whole

604
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Speaker 1: look at the crowd. The next thing, you know, get

605
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Speaker 1: your ass back on defense. So that's why Singoon he's

606
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: just a hard worker man. He in that pain. He

607
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: dunking on people. He can get people involved. He's the

608
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Speaker 1: best player on that team. They thought it was.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be Jalen Green. Yeah, Shin Gooon has taken over

610
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Speaker 3: Shing Goon.

611
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Speaker 2: He leads to rockets in points, rebounds, assists, and steals

612
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Jaylen Bronson game went over the Pistons. What a shot?

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Speaker 3: What the moment?

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Speaker 2: The next window series rob you one of the great

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Speaker 2: clutch shot shooters.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: I think for our audience, they want to know in

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Speaker 2: that moment, are you thinking, like, man, if I make

620
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Speaker 2: this shot, him a hero if I miss it, or

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Speaker 2: you just going through the It's the same whether the

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Speaker 2: moment is there or not. It's just like if it

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Speaker 2: was the first quarter, the second quarter, third quarter. What

624
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: goes through your head when you're taking a shot that

625
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Speaker 2: could potentially win you the game or lose you the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think about anything, man, because it's just like

627
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Speaker 1: when you're in a gym, you're taking all these shots

628
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Speaker 1: and prepare for this moment. He put the reps in

629
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Speaker 1: and that's what you gotta do. That's why you see guys.

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Speaker 1: You know you take Kobe fences. He's been a gym

631
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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, so everything came easy. And if

632
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Speaker 1: you put in the time and the work and the sacrifice,

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Speaker 1: these moments like this, you don't even think about it.

634
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Speaker 1: When you think about Daylon Brunston. Most guys they like

635
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Speaker 1: going to their offhand to pull up for the jump

636
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Speaker 1: shout because you can square up a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: He got you going left, like you thought, oh, he's

638
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Speaker 1: a strong left guy. He was setting them up, he said,

639
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: jumpsing up. I'm coming right back over here to I

640
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: want to knocked down this tree. So it's just it's

641
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Speaker 1: just a process that you go through each and every day,

642
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Speaker 1: and you watch him. He is so good at manipulating

643
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Speaker 1: the defense. He can get you on your head and

644
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: then he can cost the contact or he can get you.

645
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: He can he can gauge your speed if you're going

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Speaker 1: too fast, he stops on the diamond, pulls up, and

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Speaker 1: I think for him and any any guy who's playing

648
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: this game long enough, you don't think about it. You

649
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Speaker 1: just do it. It's this second next, second nature thing

650
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Speaker 1: to you. Man, You just you just enjoyed the moment

651
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: and you just hope that you make that monch so

652
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: you can talk a lot of shit.

653
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: He does a great job rob as you mentioned, but

654
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: he gets his body in such a position to shoot

655
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: that shot because like you said, he's the left handed player,

656
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: and most left handed players are left hand dominant.

657
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: They're trying to get to that left side. They want

658
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: to go left.

659
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: He did that, and then if you notice, he stepped

660
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: back and squared himself and let it go. He get

661
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: a shrewter. He got an a one on shooter and

662
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: he got a tough step back. He I mean the

663
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: way he can like get his body in position to

664
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: take and make tough shots for a guy his size,

665
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: he is not a big guy. I mean his body

666
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: of mean, you know what I'm saying. He's you know,

667
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: he got a little little gird to him. You know

668
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: he got some but he I mean what you think

669
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: six foot I think he about six six.

670
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: One hit that h but his ability and he's stronger

671
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: than you think for a guy his size, because the.

672
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: Way he can like put that that showed in your

673
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: chest and get that shot off in the square and

674
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: the knock be shots down.

675
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: He was sensatial.

676
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: They couldn't buy basket for the first nine ten minutes

677
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: of the ball game, and then all of a sudden,

678
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: he said, man, just give me the ball. What y'all

679
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: doing every shot that needed to be taken and made.

680
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: Now they got a huge campend by Bridge and somebody

681
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: missed the shot and they didn't block out and Bridges

682
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: got the.

683
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: Tip that tied it up.

684
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: But you know, once they missed that shot, boy, y'

685
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: y'all been to get this ball. Because Thompson had just

686
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: made a great defensive playoff like two possessions earlier, he

687
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: got a shot clock violation on the copy. He went

688
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: to go up and he stripped him with the ball.

689
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, Brusse, I got something for you. I

690
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: got something for you.

691
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: Hold that, but hold on, I got a question you

692
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 4: for for for rob Man for you and Unk.

693
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: Right.

694
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 4: As great as Jalen Brunson's was in this series, as

695
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: great as he's been obviously being a very very clutch player. Hell,

696
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 4: he's just one NBA cuss Player of the year, right, yeah,

697
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: obviously showing this offensive prowes tonight with forty. Is there

698
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: any chance y'all giving the and in this series against

699
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: the Celtics any chance?

700
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: No?

701
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: No. And the reason I say no is because when

702
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: you look at the Celtics, they got six guys that

703
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: can score. And every time I look at the Nicks,

704
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: they remind me of Ai. You know, they got this

705
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: one guy that does all the scoring and everybody else

706
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: does two or three things really really good to make

707
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: that pie hole. And do you take out Bridges, who

708
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players. When they use him and

709
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: he's able to score, they're a totally different team. But

710
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: I just think the Celtics has too much firepower. And

711
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: one of the things they don't talk about with the

712
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: Celtics is you look at them. They got four good

713
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: defensive players out there in that court, you know, and

714
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: that's and and and we don't talk about that because

715
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: he's so caught up in all the threes they shoot.

716
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: But you think about, you.

717
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: Know, White, Holiday, even Brown, these guys are fucking good defenders.

718
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: And so they got bodies to throw at Bronson a

719
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: little short sail and so that's gonna be hard.

720
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: And you know, going back to Bronston.

721
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 1: The one thing that makes it really good is this

722
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: is gonna sound really crazy, is left handed players are always,

723
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: uh have that ability to get to the line and

724
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: do things because you're not used to that. You hardly

725
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: ever run across the left pendent player. You think about Mono,

726
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: do you know we're gonna play with He was so

727
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: good because you think he's about to do someone is

728
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: right here, like, oh shit, he's left handed. And by

729
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: the time you think about it, it's too late. And because

730
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: it's just not what you use is uncommon. But I

731
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: just think he I think the Knicks might win one

732
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: game because they play hard. But I think overall, I

733
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: just think the Celtic, Yeah, it's gonna be a gentleman,

734
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: sweet man. I just think that if the Celtics stay healthy.

735
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: You know they they've been getting a little banged up

736
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: in there. But I just think the Celtics are too good. Yeah,

737
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: because when you look at it, think about what they go.

738
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: They got Derrick White that can defend. They got Holiday

739
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: that can find, they got JB that can defend. They

740
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: got big A Horford that can defend, whose fingers can

741
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: protect the paint. And then they bring Pritchard off the

742
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: bench that can score. How that can call Cornett that

743
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: can that can give you a little rebound. Me.

744
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: Uh, they're loaded. You we know j T can defend

745
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: if they have to, but he can score. J BE

746
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: can score, Derrick White can score. They got scores, and

747
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: they got defenders. So they're always going to have a

748
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: bare minimum to quality defenders on the court at all times.

749
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: And so when you have that, when you got two

750
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: guys that can defend. But look what they start with.

751
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: So if they start Holiday, you got Holiday, Derrick White,

752
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: JP Al Horford.

753
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm gonna tell you this, I liked the Nickson

754
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: winning at least three games, winning three games. I got

755
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: them winning three games. I mean, hey, raw, you want

756
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: to you want to you want to best some on it.

757
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: You want to throw a little throw ways on that.

758
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: What do you want to? Bet? Said?

759
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Make it?

760
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: Said, make it light to yourself. Bet fifty two hundred.

761
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: That's very specific way, he said, Yeah, trying.

762
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: I'm trying. I hold fifty two hundred. So I'm just

763
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: trying to I'm trying to make it up some other

764
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: kind of way. I'm trying to break you.

765
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, of all the game winners

766
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: that you hit, what's your favorite one?

767
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: Uh, Lakers against against the Kings that.

768
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: Game without a game and that was game four, Game four.

769
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: You know we lose that game, we go down three

770
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: to one. And the reason is my favorite because if

771
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: you look at most of my game winners, they've all

772
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: done on the road, and so this one was done

773
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: at home and enjoy with the crowd.

774
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.

775
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: I grew up a huge Lakers fan, right, I grew

776
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: up a big Magic Johnson fan.

777
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: You know, you wouldn't never be and a Laker. You

778
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 3: used to them chanting Kobe, Kobe or shot.

779
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: You know, when you get a chance to knock down

780
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: a big three and you get him chant your name

781
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: like that. Man, it's the best feeling ever, I think

782
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: for me, it's probably outside of Kobe's last game. Is

783
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: the greatest moment in Stable Slash Crypto. And if you

784
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: every time I see the shot from above and when

785
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm making and the crowd just jumps up and cheers,

786
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: I get goose punts every time I see. You know,

787
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: even though I love what I do in two thousand

788
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: and five against the Pistons in Game five, when I

789
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: lit the asses.

790
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: Up, Yeah, that's the what I was That's what I

791
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: was thinking. Yet.

792
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, it's something you know, we as

793
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: an athlete, we all got that ego, we all got

794
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: that pride. You want to hit them fans chant your name.

795
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: But I tell you what, I only have like one

796
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: picture up. I don't even have that shot up in

797
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: my house, but I do have the picture of me

798
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: making that shot against the Pistols because I just like

799
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: looking at the faces of the people in the crowd.

800
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: You got some.

801
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: People like you know, you got one guy him in

802
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: the crowd, and it's like because he knew it was

803
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: going in.

804
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: People I don't know if people realize this, Rob, but

805
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: before those black injuries, you are hot flower. You were

806
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: doing I mean you were punching on folks.

807
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: I mean you were on the top.

808
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: People look at you and they're like, man, all he

809
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: did was you threes no no, no, no no.

810
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: When you came in.

811
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what it is about them,

812
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: the Alabama guys.

813
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: You would been nice.

814
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: All the guys had up the way up.

815
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: And I don't know if.

816
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: People realize that, but you wore a hot flower, a

817
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: six teen guy that finished above the rim. And then

818
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: you turned yourself. I think it was the back injury

819
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: that you turned yourself in more of a shooter. You

820
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: still could punch your folks, but not like you could

821
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: when you first.

822
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: Got Now it's so weird when you come in to

823
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: lead funny stories. Like my middle son, he came to

824
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: me one time, like, Daddy, you don't ever dunk anymore.

825
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: You can't even dunk.

826
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: And there's that one dunk in the playoffs against the

827
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons that I dunked on real Pemilton while I

828
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: took out outside the bank and I said, see your dad,

829
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: I can still dunk.

830
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: I just don't have to.

831
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: But you know, the weird part about it is when

832
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: I got to the Lakers, they was like, oh, we

833
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: don't want you to, you know, they said, we need

834
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: you just spot up. And the worst thing as an athlete,

835
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: if any athletes listening, is don't let coaches limit to

836
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: limit you in what you can do.

837
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: And I think you know this day and age is

838
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: a little bit different.

839
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: Back then, it was a little bit more I need

840
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: to do this, this and this, and so in my

841
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: mind became, Okay, this is what they want me to do,

842
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: spot up and shoot.

843
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 3: Threes and all this concept.

844
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: But I I showed my my my youngest son, Christian,

845
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: who's that you said?

846
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 3: Last?

847
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Let me show you something, man, Come sit down, And

848
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: I showed them my highlights, I mean rockets when I

849
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: used to dunk.

850
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: He looked at me like, damn you had ups.

851
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I just stopped doing it because they

852
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 1: didn't want I didn't have room to do it because

853
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: Shaq wasn't the damn way.

854
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: That's dope. That's lie. Hey, ay, Rob.

855
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: With some of those some of those clutch shots you hit,

856
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: were you ever did you ever keep any of the.

857
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: Balls, especially, I mean you got.

858
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: Some really really really good moments, and for me, I

859
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 4: would want to keep those. I would I personally want

860
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: to keep those balls.

861
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: And you know you don't have.

862
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: Any, you know, I really I have.

863
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: I have one.

864
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I have one from it's actually the Game seven

865
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: ball against the Knicks.

866
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: I have that.

867
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: And the only reason I have that because I told

868
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: the guy said, because the first two points of Game

869
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: seven was me dunking on Batch and I was like, I.

870
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: Wrote that ball.

871
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: So I have that ball, and I wish I had

872
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: the one I made against the Kings because ship if

873
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: I lost it, if I betted you and lost, I

874
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: just sell that and give me a lot of money

875
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: to cover that.

876
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: So I know Comfarens will love that ball. So hey, but.

877
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: Speaking of you talking about balls and being able to

878
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: sell the ball and get you a lot of money, Listen,

879
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 4: I got a prize possession. That's what I'm gonna say.

880
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to have it in closed in the case, right,

881
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 4: uh huh. But I got the I got the game

882
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: ball when Lebron hit his fiftieth point fifty thousand Yeah,

883
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: like listen, fifty thousand points and that's something that you

884
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 4: would think, you know, Yeah, so it's a fifty thousand

885
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 4: point ball right now.

886
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: He see fifty thousand point and Lebron signed the part.

887
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I mean, if if I ever fallow a

888
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: hard times, man, it's this hit gonna come in handy.

889
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: Do you fallow a hard time to try to see

890
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: that ball?

891
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: You're gonna stay on hard times? Exactly? You? You might,

892
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: you might real hard times. Greg with them to deal.

893
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: Greg Papavic stepped out of the coach of the San

894
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: Antonio Spurst Today Indy, a nearly three decade run that

895
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: saw him lead the team to five championships. He's the

896
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: all time winning his coach uh at NBA history, and

897
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: he's a three time Coach of the Year, and he's

898
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame, won a gold medal, and he's

899
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 2: inducted to the Basketball Hall of Fame. Rob, you played

900
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: for Pop? What what was it about Pop that made

901
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: him special? What was your what's going to be your

902
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: lasting memory of playing for Pop?

903
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: I think for me, it's just his how genuine he was,

904
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: and you know he he was one of those coaches

905
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: where he's one of those coaches where he had yelled

906
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: at you and then take you to have some nochi

907
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: and some wine, you know, his two favorite things. And

908
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: for me, I think I tell this story all the time.

909
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: The one thing that really made me fall in love

910
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: with the.

911
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 3: Guy was my daughter who passed away.

912
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: Was really sick my last year with the Spurs, and

913
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: she went into the hospital at the beginning of the

914
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: season and he was like, don't don't come back until

915
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: she's out of the hospital. And I sat in the

916
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: hospital with her for like three weeks and then she

917
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: probably go out of the hospital and I came back

918
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: like a day after.

919
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: He says, she out a hospital.

920
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: Like yees, she got home like two days ago, he said,

921
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: she and out of the woods. Yet get back, go

922
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: back home. You know, we don't really need you right now.

923
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: And I looked at him, like, are you trying to

924
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: get rid of me on the slide? He said, no, Man,

925
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: family first, you know, family first, And that's what That's

926
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: how Pop always was. Man. You know, I just heard

927
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: the day about the story of the martow Rows when

928
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: his pops passed, and now it's like, and that goes

929
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: to show you, you know, there's some things bigger than

930
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: a freaking game, right, and Pop realized that, you know,

931
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: he was always about you know, spending time with your family,

932
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: doing what's important. And I remember even my last year,

933
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: I went to him and I was like, you know,

934
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: I want to ask a favor, like what I said,

935
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: it's my last year. I said, can I and my

936
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: son's on spring break. We're going on a road trip.

937
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: Can I bring my son with me?

938
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: Like?

939
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even ask me no question like that.

940
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: He said, you know, it's it's just about the family.

941
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: It's about doing things, and a lot of teams wouldn't

942
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: let you do that. You know, it's because that members

943
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: was remember the Lakers back and the day you say

944
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: he can't get the flight back now was liability, you know,

945
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: insurance thing.

946
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is this a flight hole? What?

947
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: So? But pot was He's he was really really good

948
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: about man, if it came down to your family, you

949
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: do whatever it's necessary for your family. Everybody talking about

950
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: the relationship that they had with Duncan because I think

951
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: Duncan was the lynch pin because you could coach him

952
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Duncan hard, you can coach everybody else arm and Timmy

953
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: was receptive.

954
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: And that's what you have to Timmy.

955
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: Timmy was one of these superstars that if you didn't

956
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: watch the game, you would never know he was a superstar.

957
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: He didn't dress like a superstar. Hell, I'm be showed up.

958
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: What you pick up an M D P Trover with

959
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: flip flopping shorts?

960
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: So like.

961
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: What Walder swing on George.

962
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: Ball?

963
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, jeans choice? David Third like, hey, but that was Timmy?

964
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: What was it about Coach Pop and Tim's relationship that

965
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 2: made it so unique and special?

966
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna back this up a little bit

967
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: because you really have to credit David Robinson, Okay, because

968
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: you think about he had David Robinson when Tim came

969
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: and David was like, Yo, this is what we do here,

970
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: and Tim just follow suit. You know, Tim is just

971
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: that type of guy. He doesn't say much. You can talk.

972
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: If you talk about cars, he'll talk to you talk

973
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: about video games. He'll talk to you talk about poker,

974
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: those three things, and he'll talk about that.

975
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: He ain't gonna really talk to you.

976
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: For us, you know, we it took me a year

977
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: just to get him. Said a couple of words to me,

978
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: and but he is just a he. He is a

979
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: type of guy who's really focused. We don't you know,

980
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 1: we always talk about Kobe's worker. I think we talked about.

981
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: But this dude was always in the gym shooting jump shots.

982
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: You know, I'm always trying to get to perfect that

983
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: bank shot.

984
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: If you know.

985
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: He was famous for shooting a lot of free throws

986
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: because you know, that was one of.

987
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: His down when he came in. Yeah, and he just

988
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 3: he worked hard.

989
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: But he was just he if you talk about guys

990
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: who you know, I used to. I had to get

991
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 1: on to him one time, like, dude, can you fucking

992
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: yell at somebody? Man, you sitting up there like with

993
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: your mouth closed, you know, you yell at someone, you're

994
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna be like, yeah, fucking everybody's gonna perk up and listen.

995
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: So he was just he was very mild man anyways,

996
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: mild mind. He didn't want to say much. But the

997
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: guy was he competed and he he was and when

998
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: he when he let you into his world, one of

999
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: the nicest guys you'll meet.

1000
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: You mentioned the Twin Towers because David Robinson was there,

1001
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: but when David was, I mean they won them championship

1002
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: with David, but David was on the tail end of

1003
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: his career. That was that was I mean, basically Tim

1004
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: Dunkett team from the time he walked in the door,

1005
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: it was he was just that good. And he was

1006
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: one of the last guys that was a true senior

1007
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: that was the number one overall. Kenya Martin was the

1008
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: last one, I think in two thousand, but Timmy was

1009
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: what ninety eight.

1010
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: I think the ninety eight draft was Timmy's first year.

1011
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: But he was the last, the last of those guys

1012
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: that went four years of college and came out. So

1013
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: he was more than ready, more than prepared for the

1014
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: grind because basically he was a grown man when he

1015
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 2: wasn't eighteen, he wasn't seventeen. Tim Dunckant was a twenty

1016
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 2: two year old grown man when he got.

1017
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: To the NBA. You tell me something I did not know.

1018
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: I thought he came out earlier.

1019
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: You just so you see everybody coming up earlier, you know,

1020
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: thinking about and that's the one thing I hate about

1021
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: the NBA.

1022
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 3: I know, these dududes.

1023
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: Are freaking twenty one when they get to college now,

1024
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: but I just wish that that that that I was

1025
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: about to say David Stern that Adam Silver put like

1026
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: two years onto it. Because these guys, you can tell

1027
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: by the way these guys play. Now, that's why so

1028
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: many threes are being shot because they don't know how

1029
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: to play. They're doing what's easy. It's taking the threes

1030
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: and there learning the game. You know, you got some

1031
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna come in the league that know

1032
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: how to play the game because of the upbringing and

1033
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: how they would talk.

1034
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: But it's just it's just it's just a lot.

1035
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: Of bad basketball being played because guys don't know how

1036
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: to play. You know, do you think about tonight washing

1037
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: the game? Like, dude, the first thing you learned in

1038
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: high school and college is how to beat the damn zone.

1039
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: The zone is the easiest freaking thing to beat. And

1040
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: you can't beat the zone.

1041
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: It's like go to the Oprah spots, go to the

1042
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: Dunker spot, go back door. And it just shows you

1043
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: right there that the guys aren't learning anything because they

1044
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: all just trying to, you know, get to the next

1045
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: level to the league without learning something. M Rob, you

1046
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: played with some of the greats. I mean, you was

1047
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: on team with him, Duncan. You was on a team

1048
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: with Shaq and Kobe. You're on the King with a

1049
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: lot Dream and Drexler, And I know people ask you

1050
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: what the difference between Dream and Duncan, the difference between

1051
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: Duncan and Shaq, the difference between Clyde and Kobe. What

1052
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: are some of the different look because look, all of

1053
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: those guys that I just mentioned are all the seventy

1054
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: five greatest players in the NBA.

1055
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: History, MVP's Finals, MVPs, Defensive Players of the Year. When

1056
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: you got when you got to the Rockets, what was

1057
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: it about the Dream that you know, okay and this

1058
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: gout special?

1059
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: What set him apart? Shit?

1060
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: I knew he was special when I watched him in

1061
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 1: high school in college because when I was coming.

1062
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: Out, I want to play alongside this guy.

1063
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: You know, I was praying that I went to the

1064
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: Rockets and the guy was and I did because you

1065
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: could just see his work ethic, you know, you watch him.

1066
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: You know, guys always talking about going into the lab.

1067
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: Dream would be in the lab and we didn't even

1068
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: know it. He would be working on stuff and then

1069
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: he'll just all of a sudden in the game. You know,

1070
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: you think about ninety five high annihilated David Robinson. Yeah,

1071
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: because he said they took the game. Yeah, all that

1072
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: stuff we had never seen before. You should have seen

1073
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: us on the court. We're going like, oh, he became

1074
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: fans on the court, right, and so he just and

1075
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: you watch him, man, he just played hard. Man you

1076
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: think about you know, back in the day when he

1077
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: you forget, he used to knock some people out too.

1078
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know he had that toughness. You know,

1079
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: you l on him.

1080
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: He was he was because only a fifty dollars fires,

1081
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, push him in the face, and so he

1082
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: had that toughness and he just had that.

1083
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: The one thing about Dream though, is.

1084
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 1: We talk about how hard guys plays, like how hard

1085
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: Yannis plays.

1086
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 3: How hard Bronze and place, how hard he's got.

1087
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: Dream played hard each and every night, and you know,

1088
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: people would talk about who's the greatest center, who's this?

1089
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: Who is that?

1090
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: Dream to me is always gonna be top three centers

1091
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: because if he needed to shoot threes, he could have

1092
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: shot threes. He didn't because he had us out there

1093
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: and you couldn't stop him in the paint any damn way.

1094
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: So he's just gonna kill you that with you. So

1095
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: he was just you know, he was just.

1096
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: A hard worker and the more important great guy because

1097
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: he taught me about the business of basketball.

1098
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: He was like yo.

1099
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: I remember one time at a Christmas part he took

1100
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: me outside and said, listen, listen, you're gonna be on

1101
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: this team. Now, let's talk about, you know, things outside

1102
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: of basketball. What you're doing with your money. You know,

1103
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: how's the family? You know, are you investing? Do you

1104
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: have the right people? He was just a good guy.

1105
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of guys now you know they

1106
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: won't They won't come to you and be like, yo, man,

1107
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: you need to check your findance.

1108
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 3: You need to do this. They like, fuck you.

1109
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: I learned it on my own, you know, and so

1110
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: I just that's one of the things I loved about dreams.

1111
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: He taught me about the business of basketball. So you

1112
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: leave Houston and you go to the let well you

1113
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: know you have you didn't gonna right and go there.

1114
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: Man, you got to talk about the signs.

1115
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: Mantle you have a little Piers started saying it and

1116
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 2: feed it. You have a couple of coffee at the airport,

1117
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: got right back on the plane and went to l A.

1118
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: So you get to l a shock.

1119
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: And Kobe mm hmmm, You're like, damn, got SHOQ, Got Kobe?

1120
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: What what what y'all.

1121
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 3: Need to be to do? Yeah. You know what's weird.

1122
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: When I got there, man, I'm looking at the team.

1123
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: We had Nick ban X at the point. Yep, we

1124
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: had Eddie Jones at the two. I said, okay, I

1125
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: can play the three. You know, back then I was

1126
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: a three man. And I said, we got a young

1127
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: guy like this. You know, everybody's like, oh, you got

1128
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: to see this rookie Kobe Bryan. I'm like, who. And

1129
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: then you can get to the practice. You see how

1130
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: good this dude is. Okay, he's learning, and then you

1131
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: got shocked, you know, you say, okay, Shaq just got

1132
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: beaten ninety five in the finals, and you got all

1133
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: this talent. I said, oh man, we about to do

1134
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: some work. And so we're gonna do some work for

1135
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: some years. Because everybody's young, everybody's on a thirty. But

1136
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: sometimes it goes to show you too many cooks in

1137
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: the kitchen when it comes to basketball ain't good. You

1138
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: gotta have some guys that are blue guys, some screw guys,

1139
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, some boats and and do the things to

1140
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: keep the team together. And you think about we had

1141
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: four All Stars and then we got swept by a

1142
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: damn team that has been together for thirty years.

1143
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: That was Kobe's rookie year, wasn't it. That was Kobe's

1144
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: rookie year. Yeah, yep.

1145
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: And then and then and then ninety nine, you know,

1146
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: we got beat We got beat by the Spurs, lost

1147
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: the last game in the form to the Spurs. And

1148
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: then that was when we got new coaches, and we

1149
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: said we got rid of Nick, we got rid of Eddie,

1150
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: and we bought in defensive minded people. You know. He

1151
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: brought in Ron Harper, We bought in b Shaw, we

1152
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: bought in Rick Fox.

1153
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: We did all these things. Brought in a C. Green

1154
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: and it was that glue who was whole.

1155
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: Grant did a whole great only came.

1156
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 3: For the last hope.

1157
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: Grant was on the second champion in two thousand and

1158
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: two thousand and one.

1159
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, so, and it was just weird, man.

1160
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: You just and it goes to show you when you

1161
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: got too much talent, but when you got when you

1162
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: got enough talent and you got guys who mature, and

1163
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: you can you can tell Kobe and Shot to shut

1164
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: up and sit you ass down and do what you're

1165
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: supposed to do. They gonna they gonna, you think about it.

1166
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: We used to tell Kobe, all, dude, you ain't doing

1167
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: that at night a Shack, you ain't doing that.

1168
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: And they would listen to us because we are veteran guys.

1169
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1170
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 3: Now you got this going on.

1171
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: Guy, you know, respect us and we had a lot

1172
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: of respect for one another, and it was no animosity.

1173
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: And people always ask me about the Kobe Shaq thing.

1174
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I must have been fucking blinded

1175
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: because they never had beef in front of us. It

1176
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: was all in the papers man, you know, And that

1177
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing. When people like, we'll talk about it,

1178
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm like they in the locker room, laughing and joking.

1179
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: They the first people to hug after a championship. I know.

1180
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: You tell me you you want a championship. Who was

1181
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: the first person you honged, you hugged after you want

1182
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: to Champion's probably your favorite player.

1183
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: On the team.

1184
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so that's why I was like, men arriving says, oh,

1185
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: they're decent.

1186
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, when where? So it was just weird to me.

1187
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 3: How cool with Shaq?

1188
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: You look at Shack and I tell people I would

1189
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: pay people realize how athletic Shock was. When Shaq got

1190
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 2: to the league, like Shaq first five or six years

1191
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: when Shaq was like seven one three twenty five and

1192
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 2: can move like a dear. We're never going to see

1193
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: that again. Yeah, you never got your size with that

1194
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: kind ofigility. You're just not Now. You might have like

1195
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 2: Yoga's got the footwork and Joel of me got footwork,

1196
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: but I'm talking about your raw athleticism and power.

1197
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna again. Never, yeah, never.

1198
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: You know, you think about if he always tell if

1199
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: you start a team, if I could take the two thousand,

1200
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: the nineteen nine nine, two thousand shock, the MVP shack

1201
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: and have him that shack and put him on, that's

1202
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: my first person, Not Jordan, not Dream, not Kareem. That's

1203
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: the first person I'm picked to start my mind, if

1204
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: I can get that shack because he was just so dominant,

1205
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: he was just so strong, so athletic.

1206
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: You thinking about this, this guy can bring.

1207
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: The ball down, cross your spin, take from outside the paint,

1208
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: then monkey dunck on your ass and then you can

1209
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: do it.

1210
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 3: You know, And.

1211
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: You go back and look at a lot of tape

1212
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: and I've heard this out of Reugh mouth, so I'm

1213
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: sitting there. You can hear all you is on him

1214
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: and he's not getting the call. He's like, oh, he's

1215
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: too big, he should be able to handle that. I'm like, dude,

1216
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: it's a freaking file. He's slapping his show. Y'all say

1217
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: all right, y'all gonna piss him off, and then I'm

1218
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: gonna get out of the way cause hes gonna start

1219
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: elbowing people. And you can tell when he got frustrated,

1220
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: cause he'll do that spin. He don't care who I'm like,

1221
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: so yeah he was. He was like I said, if

1222
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: you got one player, one moment, I'm taking nineteen ninety nine,

1223
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: two thousand shock and I'm starting the team with that guy.

1224
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: If I can get that guy each and every night, okay, Kobe, Kobe.

1225
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: If a seventeen, he gets there seventeen. Now by the

1226
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 2: time they start to win championships, he's the Kobe. He's

1227
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: he's become what he became, and you get to see

1228
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: it on full display. He can still elevate over the top.

1229
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: He got the minute he could up. Oh he had

1230
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: he had the package. And if you need him to

1231
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: sit in the chair for forty minutes and take the polling

1232
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 2: team's point two.

1233
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: And three best player and he wanted that challenge. And

1234
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, you, you know, I know you think Lebron

1235
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: is the greatest of all time. And you people talk about, uh,

1236
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: MJ been the greatest of all time. Why don't you

1237
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: think you when you watch Kobe Bryant, he did every

1238
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: freaking thing like MJ. And he probably took it to

1239
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: another level because Kobe. You know, when Kobe first came

1240
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: in the league, we used to laugh and joke him

1241
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: like you can't shoot threes?

1242
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 3: He just shoot threes like MJ. But he we would

1243
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: like joke with him.

1244
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 1: So that dude been in the gym every morning at

1245
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: five o'clock shooting number threes and now he can shoot threes.

1246
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: And it's things like that that why he was great.

1247
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: You could tell him he was not good at something,

1248
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: he would prove you wrong by going and working on

1249
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: it and added to his game. This dude, you know,

1250
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: God rest his soul. Was the hardest working dude I've

1251
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. And you think about where

1252
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: he went from his rookie year where he just played Wow. Yeah,

1253
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: you know he didn't have no structure to his game

1254
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: to understanding that, Oh, I got to tone this down

1255
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's because he talked to MJ,

1256
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: he talked to Field and whatnot. But when he got filled,

1257
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: it made him more structure than I've ever seen before.

1258
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: So the dude was just phenomenal.

1259
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 3: Man.

1260
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: So I hate when we talk about the goat and

1261
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: we never bring him up like because it's like, you know,

1262
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: to me, the.

1263
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 3: Goats are.

1264
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: MJ, Kobe, Lebron, and Kareem. Those are the goats. And

1265
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: why do we have to put one, one, two, one,

1266
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: three and four? Those four guys right there? Why Gay camps?

1267
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: Just four ghosts? That's the mount rushmore right there?

1268
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: Why why didn't playing on that team alongside Shaq and Kobe?

1269
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 3: Why didn't they win more individual MVPs?

1270
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: Kobe didn't win one until later late like two thousand

1271
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: and one, I think two thousand and nine to twenty and.

1272
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 3: Ten, he won the MVP.

1273
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: Why didn't they win if Why didn't Shaq win more MVPs?

1274
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: Why didn't Kobe win MVPs? Did they cancel each other out?

1275
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 3: I don't think they counted each other.

1276
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: I just think you know, if you if you look

1277
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: at the league back then, it was hard to win

1278
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: back to backs unless she was a white guy.

1279
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 3: I mean Steve Nash.

1280
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: And so you know, you think about that second Steve

1281
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: Nash have it for real though.

1282
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: So it's so many things you can look at it.

1283
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: It's just weird. You know. You think about MJ when

1284
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 3: he was in the league.

1285
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: He didn't win it every year, you know, it's always

1286
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: someone different. And like you think about this year, even

1287
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: though Jokic is having the best freaking career, best year

1288
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: of his career, he.

1289
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna Wina, you know, and and and it's just

1290
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 3: how they do it.

1291
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: And I don't know why, but I think Kobe should

1292
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: have probably run at least three.

1293
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 3: Shack should run at least that's just actually won at

1294
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: least two.

1295
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: You know, I think I say, the year he wanted

1296
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: he should have won it, and then the following.

1297
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Speaker 3: Year he should have won it. Okay, you know.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, I think, you know, because you think

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Speaker 1: about his third our third championship, he wasn't as dominant

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Speaker 1: as he was. He was still effective, he just didn't

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Speaker 1: bring that you think about it, he wasn't the Shack

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Speaker 1: before that, and that's what they based off. They always say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take your last year. What did you do

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00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: better than that year. And I think he was just consistent.

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00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: He never like went up a little bit to another level.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Jim Duncan. Yeah, Tim Duncan had one of the

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Speaker 2: great games. He had a damn near quadruple double. He

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00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: was two blocks away from a quadruple double in an

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00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 2: NBA Finals game when he played when he played the Nets,

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Speaker 2: uh that year, I think he had twenty one points,

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00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 2: twenty rebound hit, a fists and eight blocks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's a nets man in this We had

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Speaker 3: just swear and just swept.

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Speaker 1: The next year before that or whatever it wasn't next

1315
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: was like, you know, poor poor Jason, Richard Jefferson, that crew.

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00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: You know, you were the beast in the East. But

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00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: when it came to playing teams used to wear it.

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00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: You was just like you like the legs and the clippers,

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00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: just a little brother. So it was it was they

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Speaker 1: made it a good challenge. But you go back and

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Speaker 1: look at the East. Back then East was terrible man

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Speaker 1: and so but Tim Duncan though, that goes to show

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Speaker 1: you when he wants to take over, he can take

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Speaker 1: over man. He and and the one thing I like

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00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: about Tim when he comes to blocking shots, he didn't

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00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: care if you dunked him. He's like, shit, I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I don't know have social media. I don't care what

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00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: you say. You know, people in San Antonio gonna still

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00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: bow down to me. And you know most guys were

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Speaker 1: shop away from trying to, you know, go up against

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00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: the venice car think you might get dunked on. They're like, no,

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Speaker 1: I ain't challenging that. Tim didn't give a shit. He

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00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: would try to challenge you anywhere to block it because

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00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: he knew nine times out of ten he was gonna

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Speaker 1: block it.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna start a fast break.

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Speaker 2: All right, your Mount Rushmore teammates. You get four teammates

1338
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: on on Mitt Rushmore. Who you going with?

1339
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: Dream Shaq, Kobe Clyde.

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Speaker 2: Damn, you ain't cloud over Timmy.

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00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: You know what this is the one other things you know,

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Speaker 1: I love Timmy. I'm going with Clyde. Clyde, my boy man.

1343
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes personal feelings get in the way. So hey,

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00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing to Steve Kurr right now. Hey, But you know,

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00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: people don't. I think people forget how good Clyde was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he come, he took a kind of a

1347
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: backseat roll when he got to Houston. But but but Clyde, Clyde,

1348
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: I remember, hell, I remember what he was dunking on

1349
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: everybody at five Slamma Jaman in the.

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Speaker 1: University of Houston. But he used to Clyde used to elevate.

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00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: And another reason I ain't put Tim in that because

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00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, I'm Washington Hall of Fame ceremony

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00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: and watch Rudy T getting inducted. And then when Rudy

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00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: T gave me a shout out for the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame and they're paying through the crowd, and Tim then clapped.

1357
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: So that's why I ain't on my right because I

1358
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: just got I thought it comes to motherfucker, I saved.

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Speaker 1: You don't answer two thousand.

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00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: And five excuse about life like you better get your

1361
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: hands up and clap.

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Speaker 1: Damn.

1363
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: They Spurns got some cap space.

1364
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 3: They got it. They got to night Day.

1365
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: They got Stefan Castle's Rookie of the Year. Wimby was

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Speaker 2: the previous rookie of the year. They got do they

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00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 2: would you make the move for y honest? Would you

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00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: try to package some pieces for y? Honis that's the

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00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: thing you got? You forgot about Darren Fox?

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 1: That's that's hard to say. I would because you can't

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Speaker 1: pass them. Oh, I think that's gonna be the hottest

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Speaker 1: commanded this summer. Everybody's going wrong with the great treat

1374
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: because he's that type of player. You know, I missed

1375
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: him really how hard he played. So this is gonna

1376
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: be really interesting to see where he goes. If Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: want to give him up. But if I'm the if

1378
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm the Spurs, we got the cast space to why

1379
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: not go after him because you know he'll love it

1380
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: there because he got a good The one thing about

1381
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: the Spurs franchise is a good franchise. They're very humble

1382
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: franchised and you don't have to worry about a lot

1383
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: of outside No. If you think about in La, in

1384
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: the Chicago, New York, there's a lot of outside knowing.

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01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: So you being in Milwaukee are used to the outside. No,

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01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: it's been at a minimum. So if you go to

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01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: the Spurs, you in the same thing. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he wants that. I don't know if he wants,

1389
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, be more. You know, I can't get no

1390
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: more notable as Greek freak. But does he want a

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01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: bigger market? That's why it boils down. He wants that market.

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Speaker 4: It boils down to a bigger market. I haven't talked

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Speaker 4: to Greek freak, but I talked to the powers that be.

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01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 4: We're gonna do everything we can to get him down

1395
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: here in Miami.

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01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: I'm told. I'm told that already.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure why he continues to add that question. Hey, Rob,

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01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 4: I've sat down with Mickey Harrison. I sat down with

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Speaker 4: pat Riley. Patts is willing to change some of his

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Speaker 4: ways and and let the reins go a little bit

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Speaker 4: on the way he conducts himself and to.

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Speaker 3: Come to to the entity that is known as the

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Speaker 3: Miami Heat. So uh, and we also wanna get John

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Speaker 3: wrong too. They don't want that dog.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just telling you, telling you he would fit

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01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: in great in Miami. But you're gonna have to give up,

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01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, a lot to get him to Miami. That's fine,

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01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: That's that's fine.

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Speaker 3: We want to get it. But if you give up stuff,

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01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna be right where the Phoenix Suns are. You

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Speaker 3: give up all that.

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Speaker 1: You got three guys making one hundred and fifty million,

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01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: but your bench sucks. Yeah, left the nuggets. He went

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01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: to the next but what he wanted to play with.

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01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: They ended up going to going to Denver, and then

1416
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: you had to trade those draft picks. So now you there,

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01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: you basically by yourself, like you when you were in

1418
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: them in Denver.

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01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna make it. We're gonna make it work.

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Speaker 1: The volume