Speaker 1: Warren't. Today's episode contains spoilers for various movies that we
Speaker 1: have that we're fond of, including The Secret Agent Who
Speaker 1: Left Handed Girl, Sentimental Value and All You Need Is Kille. Hello,
Speaker 1: my name is Jasoncepcion.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm Rosie Knight. How's it going?
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Speaker 3: In today's episode, as we tease in the spoiler warning,
Speaker 3: we are going to be talking about some of the
Speaker 3: movies we've checked out this year, but I haven't had
Speaker 3: a time to talk about because there's so many incredible
Speaker 3: movies and TV shows coming out that we have been covering.
Speaker 1: But for first, let's get into it. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: these movies. Okay, Rosie, You and I are avid movie fans.
Speaker 2: We love a movie.
Speaker 1: We love to go to the theater. If I'm missing
Speaker 1: in the theater, I'll always rent and or buy a
Speaker 1: correct film. This time of year, it being late February,
Speaker 1: as we head down the ski slope of Awards season,
Speaker 1: past the Golden globes past the BAFTAs, and that's a
Speaker 1: whole thing that we will talk about in No God,
Speaker 1: Oh God. On our way towards SAG Independent Spirit and
Speaker 1: the Academy Awards. It's always a time in which you
Speaker 1: and I and I think all movie fans seek to
Speaker 1: just get prepped to know about these films that are
Speaker 1: nominated in various award ceremonies and have our own opinions,
Speaker 1: because it's always fun to have our opinions. And so
Speaker 1: today we're going to talk about some movies that we
Speaker 1: have seen recently that we love. Some of them are
Speaker 1: are nominated in various award programs, some of them are not. Regardless,
Speaker 1: we're fond of these movies.
Speaker 2: Let's begin. I'll unveil my first movie.
Speaker 3: I do think if we were living in a more
Speaker 3: just world, this should have been nominated as the Taiwanese
Speaker 3: entry into as well. It was nominated as the Taiwanese
Speaker 3: entry into the Oscars. I believe it should have been
Speaker 3: up for Best Foreign Language Film.
Speaker 2: It was not.
Speaker 3: But this is a really incredible film by Shanshi Sashao,
Speaker 3: who you probably know best from co producing movies alongside
Speaker 3: Sean Baker, Like Florida project like Takeout, which is my
Speaker 3: favorite Sean Baker movie, which she also co directed.
Speaker 1: I love love Takeout as a New York guy.
Speaker 2: And crazy movie. I just recently did beautiful film. There's
Speaker 2: a gorgeous, gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Watching Criteria now. If you have Criterion, you can see
Speaker 1: it now.
Speaker 3: And I will say there is so much of Takeout
Speaker 3: in Left Handed Girl. Sean Baker even said that I
Speaker 3: recently did a Q and A with Sean and Charles Jang,
Speaker 3: the lead who plays ming in Takeout. It's such an
Speaker 3: unbelievable movie. If I'm sure, if you're a New York
Speaker 3: if you're someone who's ever worked a really shitty service job.
Speaker 2: There's so many layers to it.
Speaker 3: It's one of the true movies that captures the drudgery
Speaker 3: of everyday life. And the reason I mention it is
Speaker 3: because Shishing had co directed that. And when you see
Speaker 3: Left Handed Girl open in these night markets, you just
Speaker 3: feel that same raw energy. This kind of hybrid filmmaking
Speaker 3: where you know that some of the people you're seeing
Speaker 3: on screen are actually just living their day to day
Speaker 3: lives and some of them are actually you.
Speaker 2: Know, performers.
Speaker 3: In this we follow a young girl who is told
Speaker 3: by her grandfather that her left hand is essentially a
Speaker 3: devil hand, and that leads to kind of getting into
Speaker 3: these scrapes where anything bad she wants to do, she
Speaker 3: just does it with her left hand. It's a really
Speaker 3: great parable about like superstition and belief and the way
Speaker 3: that things people say to you when you're a kid
Speaker 3: can shape you. But it's also this unbelievably engaging family
Speaker 3: drama with incredible performances. It will grip you. It feels
Speaker 3: like this kind of vital indie cinema.
Speaker 2: That we just need so so much more.
Speaker 3: Of, and I feel like it's gonna go straight into
Speaker 3: criteria and if there's any justice.
Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of the era.
Speaker 3: When like I was watching a lot of movies under
Speaker 3: what they would call the tart and Asia Extreme banner,
Speaker 3: which was like a British way of releasing movies, but
Speaker 3: it was very much in the direction of like Chinese
Speaker 3: cinema like All About Lily Shueshoe, or Japanese cinema like
Speaker 3: Battle Royale.
Speaker 2: There's kind of this rawness and truth and kind.
Speaker 3: Of energy to it that reminds me of that Zero's era,
Speaker 3: and I just was so blown away. It's on Netflix,
Speaker 3: which is one of the most incredible things. This movie
Speaker 3: has probably been seen, as Sean Baker told me the
Speaker 3: other day, by more people than all of his other movies.
Speaker 2: Put together, because it is on that It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can watch it, and it is I'm
Speaker 3: hoping we'll set her up for many, many good movies
Speaker 3: going forward.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I just I love it. And it's it's
Speaker 2: got so much energy.
Speaker 3: It's gonna make you cry, it's gonna make you laugh,
Speaker 3: it's gonna make you want to rebel against your family,
Speaker 3: but also like find the members of your family you love.
Speaker 2: It's. Yeah, it's a masterpiece.
Speaker 1: I absolutely love the films of apparent union hater Sean Baker.
Speaker 2: Look, we can get it.
Speaker 3: I just want to say we have talked on this
Speaker 3: podcast about me of Sean Baker's problems.
Speaker 1: We get it later, but I but you know you're
Speaker 1: Here's what I appreciate about Sean is when you watch
Speaker 1: his movies, when you watch Takeout and I will watch
Speaker 1: Left Handed Girl this week.
Speaker 2: Which he did coprid h and kind of helped.
Speaker 1: Yes and even in Nora to an extent. There it
Speaker 1: is an if you were feeling in any type of way,
Speaker 1: like troubled by the ongoing you know, accretion of media conglomerates,
Speaker 1: like buying each other and feeling like there's a uniformity
Speaker 1: to films there there isn't if you just screep down
Speaker 1: like two or three levels and.
Speaker 2: Sean Baker is is one an oscar So this is
Speaker 2: not that's the top level of scraping.
Speaker 3: Ye go below you can see direct Debon Dren who
Speaker 3: like the Guy in a Parasite all of his movies.
Speaker 2: You can find incredible movies by people.
Speaker 3: Like she s and it's just so many great but
Speaker 3: you'll make us out there.
Speaker 1: Even Takeout, and you know, I don't know, it's like
Speaker 1: that feels like a movie, and I don't I don't
Speaker 1: mean to say this as a way to like discount
Speaker 1: the people who worked on it, and there's probably you
Speaker 1: know who work clearly very hard on it. But it
Speaker 1: will make you, Yeah, it will make you feel like
Speaker 1: you could make a movie if you got together with
Speaker 1: your frenzy.
Speaker 2: Is what's amazing about Takeout. They made it in the
Speaker 2: best way.
Speaker 3: Three thousand dollars and it was it was Shihang, it
Speaker 3: was Charles Jang, the lead, and it was Sean Baker,
Speaker 3: and the three of them basically set themselves up in
Speaker 3: the takeout the real restaurant with the real workers. The
Speaker 3: women you see there who is so funny and so incredible,
Speaker 3: that's the real woman who worked behind the counter, and
Speaker 3: those were her real customers for the most part. And
Speaker 3: that was the rawness and realness. I think that makes
Speaker 3: it still sing like twenty two, twenty three years later.
Speaker 3: But also I said, that was my first question, Jason,
Speaker 3: when I was asking Charles and Sean about.
Speaker 2: It, was.
Speaker 3: Like, how does it feel to have made something just
Speaker 3: with your friends and just gone out there made it,
Speaker 3: and then twenty five years later people are still looking
Speaker 3: back and talking about it because that is just you
Speaker 3: never imagine it, right, but it makes you feel like
Speaker 3: you could be that excited that you could do it
Speaker 3: and have that energy.
Speaker 1: That movie was shot very cheaply. Left Handed Girl was
Speaker 1: shot on iPhone. Yeah, I don't know about primarily, but
Speaker 1: in large part on.
Speaker 3: Iphons, which we know Sean also did with Tangerine, which
Speaker 3: is another one of his best movies in my opinion.
Speaker 1: And from what I've read, not a twenty years later
Speaker 1: shot on iPhone where it was like a rig with
Speaker 1: twenty iPhones, you know what, I like, like an iPhone
Speaker 1: at a time. I'm sure they had multiple iPhones, but
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's not like there's not
Speaker 1: like a ten thousand dollars rig to put all these
Speaker 1: iPhones together. All of which is to say, you know,
Speaker 1: like video editing software like Resolve Da Vinci Resolve is
Speaker 1: available with eighty five percent of the features like unlocked
Speaker 1: on the free version, like you can anybody can make
Speaker 1: a movie. You can go make a movie right now
Speaker 1: if you wanted to.
Speaker 2: Literally.
Speaker 3: And also, guys, I think that's such a great point, Jason,
Speaker 3: because something else that Sean Baker made at the same
Speaker 3: time as this, so again and like we said, union
Speaker 3: issues there.
Speaker 2: I had many issues with the Nora that I've forgot.
Speaker 1: You can go read about it on the Hollywood Reporter.
Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter has a very good interview with members of
Speaker 1: the crew on a Nora, and you can.
Speaker 2: Read about it, listen to our all conversations about it.
Speaker 3: But but, but, but I do think that there is
Speaker 3: a power to reminding people they can make things themselves.
Speaker 3: And there is an eleven minute short short film that
Speaker 3: Sean Baker made All on iPhone starring Michelle Yohe that
Speaker 3: was recently released as part of kind of an art project,
Speaker 3: and you can see again this kind of notion of
Speaker 3: even as he grows, he's always trying to say like, hey, guys,
Speaker 3: there's still a way you can do this, Like there's
Speaker 3: still something you can make. And I have to say
Speaker 3: he was there sign in movie posters and talking to
Speaker 3: people who made make movies.
Speaker 2: For like hours after the movie.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's definitely a cool time to remind yourself
Speaker 3: like you can do that.
Speaker 2: And guess what, you don't need to use AI, guys.
Speaker 2: You can just do it yourself. You can do it.
Speaker 2: Do it yourself.
Speaker 3: Who's gonna make the first X ray vision? Listen to
Speaker 3: a movie? We will be at the premie.
Speaker 2: Make it.
Speaker 1: It's very easy to do, not very easy, but it's
Speaker 1: very easy to make it successible. It's a lot harder
Speaker 1: make something good. But that's kind of the fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Exactly.
Speaker 1: One of the movies that I've seen recent that I've
Speaker 1: really really loved is and this is an award a
Speaker 1: bait movie is The Secret Agent, directed by clebre Mondino Filo.
Speaker 1: Sorry if I mispronounced that starring Wagner Mora, Carlos Francisco,
Speaker 1: Tanya Maria and others. And it is a movie about
Speaker 1: It's set in nineteen seventy seven. There's a lot there's
Speaker 1: all these wonderful references in this movie to what a
Speaker 1: great movie year. It is like Star Wars. They're talking
Speaker 1: like Jiz is a huge plot point in this film.
Speaker 2: Incredible.
Speaker 1: It's set in Brazil.
Speaker 2: Period piece.
Speaker 1: Yeah, set in Brazil in nineteen seventy seven was the
Speaker 1: middle of Brazil's two decade military dictatorship. Brazil had suffered
Speaker 1: a handful of coups in the mid twentieth century, and
Speaker 1: then in sixty five, the military very interesting in contrast
Speaker 1: to other South American dictatorships, took power essentially and sincerely,
Speaker 1: I guess in their view to protect democracy. And this
Speaker 1: is this is set in the middle of that period,
Speaker 1: a period of repression where resistance cells kind of like
Speaker 1: ragtag resistance cells have formed, and oftentimes this resistance was
Speaker 1: led by the kind of political elites, upper middle class
Speaker 1: and wealthy members of the Brazilian ruling class who initially
Speaker 1: had supported the military dictatorship, but now we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we've made a mistake. And are trying and are trying
Speaker 1: to struggle against us. Wagner More plays a former teacher
Speaker 1: who's caught in the middle of this. He's on the run,
Speaker 1: he's fleeing, and he is placed by this resistance cell
Speaker 1: like in Receive. It's during carnival, and he's being hidden
Speaker 1: there along with other political refugees from around the country
Speaker 1: in like a collection of safe houses, and the movie
Speaker 1: takes It's interesting because it takes a long time to
Speaker 1: get going, and I think what it's trying to do
Speaker 1: is really put you in the middle of the confusion of.
Speaker 2: What the imagione of what it's like to be to be.
Speaker 1: In this dictatorship that you don't know the shape of it.
Speaker 1: It's hard to know what's real. The military and the
Speaker 1: ruling forces control the media to a large extent, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like self dealing and like right
Speaker 1: wing looting of industries going on.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 1: Wager More plays this guy Armando, who worked like at
Speaker 1: a research university and they developed this really cool technology
Speaker 1: and you know, basically a like regime connected industrialist came along.
Speaker 1: It was just like great, nice technology. I own it now,
Speaker 1: and if you try and do anything about it, like
Speaker 1: I'll kill you and actually sends two hitman after Armando
Speaker 1: to try and find him. And but what really struck
Speaker 1: me about this movie is it unexpectedly opens up at
Speaker 1: a certain point where so he's he's all the while
Speaker 1: he is recording his like an interview you with the
Speaker 1: organizers of this resistance cell. They can't they have no
Speaker 1: power at this time, or very little power. What they're
Speaker 1: trying to do is just basically get everything down on
Speaker 1: tape so that hopefully one day in the future something
Speaker 1: can be done. Right. And so he's talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: how he came to be on the run, what happened
Speaker 1: to him, what happened to his wife, et cetera. His
Speaker 1: child is being raised by his wife's father, who is
Speaker 1: a projectionist in a cinema, and this is where a
Speaker 1: lot of the Jaws stuff and that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: comes in. A big plot point is an argument between
Speaker 1: the father in law and Armando to take this young
Speaker 1: kid to Jaws, which is very scary.
Speaker 3: And it has this huge payoff, like emotionally, that huge
Speaker 3: emotional path.
Speaker 2: Well, Jason, something I think.
Speaker 3: Is really cool about this movie that you kind of
Speaker 3: I didn't even really think about because it is so immersive,
Speaker 3: and it definitely put me in the mind of like
Speaker 3: again kind of this like Theo's indie era, like the
Speaker 3: French movie a prophet Less said about that director now Beta,
Speaker 3: but that movie is fucking incredible, Like there was again
Speaker 3: these raw immersive even like you know, Spielberg got into
Speaker 3: it a little bit when he tried to do his
Speaker 3: movie about the Olympic bombing and stuff, these kind of
Speaker 3: intimate chamber dramas, but when you pull out, there's this huge,
Speaker 3: big punch of kind of like the ripple effect.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, also, it feels crazy that.
Speaker 3: A movie that's essentially about like an Anarco communist like
Speaker 3: resistance group is also like one of the most celebrated
Speaker 3: movies of the year in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: It's like really surreal.
Speaker 1: I think that there is something too, And this goes
Speaker 1: for the other movie. I'm going to talk about sentimental value,
Speaker 1: which people have heard me talk about before. But so
Speaker 1: this movie opens up and at a certain point you
Speaker 1: realize that there's a present day timeline and that there's
Speaker 1: these two universes researchers who are listening to the tapes
Speaker 1: that Armando put down and they're studying them, and and
Speaker 1: what really affected me is like one of them is
Speaker 1: you know, incredibly moved, goes out and seeks out Armando's
Speaker 1: son and tries to talk to him about his dad.
Speaker 1: He has no memories of the only thing he you know,
Speaker 1: he remembers very almost nothing basically about his dad. And
Speaker 1: and then there's the other researcher who's like, is just
Speaker 1: was doing it for the grade and has now like
Speaker 1: moved on to is like surfing Internet and I and
Speaker 1: it made me realize, like that is we're kind of
Speaker 1: living in that now where you just get the feeling
Speaker 1: that once we are past whatever period this is and
Speaker 1: things lighten up to an extent, there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of people who are who just check out, who
Speaker 1: completely check out on what is happening and can't wait
Speaker 1: to check out. You know. That's kind of like the
Speaker 1: the the curse and the gift of peace and stability
Speaker 1: and success is people just like check out. And the
Speaker 1: other thing about it, and it's just the same thing
Speaker 1: that I love about sentimental value is it feels like
Speaker 1: there is an understanding in international cinema that to tell
Speaker 1: stories that reflect the world, to reflect what is happening.
Speaker 1: It is necessary to create these structures that stretch over
Speaker 1: multiple years, multiple lifetimes of people's lives intergenerationally. You can't
Speaker 1: just tell a story that seeks to kind of encapsulate
Speaker 1: the feeling that we're all having, the people are having
Speaker 1: about the world and the way it's changing without having
Speaker 1: this multi timeline, multi generational kind of feeling that allows
Speaker 1: the story to trace the ripple effects of decisions that
Speaker 1: were made decades previously to the main timeline of the story.
Speaker 1: And I think it's it's such a wonderful way to
Speaker 1: engage with the story. I mean, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: when it's really well done, it's incredibly moving. And the
Speaker 1: Secret Agent was one of those not moving at maybe
Speaker 1: in the way that like, you know, for me, it
Speaker 1: was really about this feeling of, you know, one day
Speaker 1: this is going to pass. People are going to study this,
Speaker 1: and they're also.
Speaker 2: All of the forget it.
Speaker 1: They're going to forget and all of the texture and
Speaker 1: fear and and togetherness and the raw kind of emotion
Speaker 1: of the period is going to get lost in translation
Speaker 1: and it's going to be really hard to pick it
Speaker 1: up again. That idea was is really interesting and I
Speaker 1: also think, you know, people may know that the former
Speaker 1: dictator of Brazil or extremely right wing president multiple time
Speaker 1: COVID survivor the ex president pol scenario, was put in
Speaker 1: prison for you know, his attempted coup and take over
Speaker 1: the country. And you know, as we sit here, we're
Speaker 1: probably wondering, like why we can't do that? And I
Speaker 1: do wonder if some of that South Korea did the
Speaker 1: same thing, put a president who tried to take over
Speaker 1: the country, who like in jail, and they have the
Speaker 1: similar issue as Brazil, which is they went through a
Speaker 1: period of military of dictatorship. So and kind of understood
Speaker 1: like what how, what that is, what it looks like,
Speaker 1: what it was like, and how important it is to
Speaker 1: kind of smack back against. So it's a really incredible
Speaker 1: movie that like sneaks up on you, and I mean
Speaker 1: sneaks up on you. Like this is a movie where
Speaker 1: you may find yourself during the first hour being like
Speaker 1: what the fuck am I even like what's I don't
Speaker 1: understand what the story is, but but it is worth it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: Also historical movie. Wagnamora making a lot of waves. He
Speaker 3: won Best at It Can, which set him up for
Speaker 3: his Oscar norm which he did get, which I believe
Speaker 3: makes him a first, the first Latin American actor to
Speaker 3: be nominated.
Speaker 2: For Best Filian, first Brazilian.
Speaker 3: Actor nominated for Best Actor. Love that for him. Very
Speaker 3: excited for more people to watch this. Hopefully this will
Speaker 3: be a movie that people can tie to the actions
Speaker 3: of today. But we shall see, I guess. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, this is truly a great movie. I was
Speaker 3: so glad after you saw it that you were like,
Speaker 3: this is a must watch, because it immediately moved up
Speaker 3: my list.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll be back with
Speaker 1: our other favorite movies. Will and we're about, Hey, Rosie,
Speaker 1: what's your next movie.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go for one.
Speaker 3: No, this is gonna be our main, like, non Oscar contender,
Speaker 3: non critically beloved movie.
Speaker 2: But I think it is so worthwhile.
Speaker 3: I think in a time that people are getting more
Speaker 3: into strange animation, rediscovering incredible artists like Mobiusts, or watching
Speaker 3: old movies like you know, A Fantastic Planet or something
Speaker 3: like that, I think it's a time that people should
Speaker 3: open their eyes to non narrative, strange adventures through animation.
Speaker 3: And the recently released adaptation of All You Need Is Kill,
Speaker 3: which was an animation release and is now streaming, is
Speaker 3: just unbelievable.
Speaker 2: In my opinion. The reviews relatively middling.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be nominated for Best Animated Feature, though
Speaker 3: I think that is a mistake.
Speaker 2: This movie is.
Speaker 3: So unbelievably beautiful. Obviously, you're probably not gonna get to
Speaker 3: watch at the cinema now it's streaming, but there is
Speaker 3: a reason, gee, kids, pick this movie up. You can
Speaker 3: watch on your projector on your set and inch screen,
Speaker 3: which I'm sure many of you have.
Speaker 2: It is the same story that we.
Speaker 3: Saw adapted in the incredibly enjoyable and underrated Tom Cruise
Speaker 3: Emily Blunt action movie, very underrated Edge of Tomorrow and.
Speaker 1: Actually good, an actual side fi masterpiece.
Speaker 3: Yea yeah, an actual side by masterpiece, a time loop masterpiece.
Speaker 3: It's funny, it's engaging, the action is incredible, the robots
Speaker 3: are incredible. Go watch it.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 3: It's based on a light novel which was then adapted
Speaker 3: into a really popular manga. This is an anime movie
Speaker 3: adaptation that's very different to both of those. But if
Speaker 3: you want to just lose yourself in gorgeous animation, time
Speaker 3: loop animation, you know what. It really reminded me of
Speaker 3: something the newer shows that we've gotten recently, like Scavenger's Rain.
Speaker 3: That was the energy it was giving, Like you just
Speaker 3: want to go and spend time in a space in
Speaker 3: a beautiful alien world. That the show that Pendleton War
Speaker 3: did where he was kind of doing podcast interviews with
Speaker 3: people and it's on Netflix, and then he would kind
Speaker 3: of animate around them as they had these conversations about
Speaker 3: like life and death and you know, micronosing mushrooms and stuff.
Speaker 3: To me, it felt very experimental, and I think that
Speaker 3: g kids are releasing it in the cinema at all
Speaker 3: is amazing. But it feels to me like the kind
Speaker 3: of movie that's gonna find its audience in, you know, realistically,
Speaker 3: like stoner students or kids who want to like take
Speaker 3: drugs and watch a movie like we used to do
Speaker 3: with Keanus Quarts.
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, you gotta watch it.
Speaker 3: It's an important thing that's gonna make it its own
Speaker 3: cult flavor. And I just, yeah, I'm a big fan
Speaker 3: of this movie. I think it's a great weird movie.
Speaker 3: It's under an hour and thirty minutes long. Guys, It's
Speaker 3: an hour and twenty two minutes long. It is really
Speaker 3: so cool, and it is unlike any other movie you've seen.
Speaker 3: And if you love the Light novel, you love the
Speaker 3: at manga, and you love the Tom Cruise movie, this
Speaker 3: is totally different story wise, so you can enjoy it
Speaker 3: in a different way. It's not gonna win any awards,
Speaker 3: but I do think it's worth checking out, and I
Speaker 3: bet that a lot of our audience will love it.
Speaker 1: And then my final movie is Yokim Trier's Sentimental Value,
Speaker 1: which I've talked about, but this is another movie that
Speaker 1: has that multi generational structure. Is it's about It's about trauma.
Speaker 1: It's about attempting to attempting to say something through art.
Speaker 1: It's about just how people fall prey to their own past,
Speaker 1: to their own to their own traumatic experiences, and aren't
Speaker 1: able to like see past the pain they've caused other
Speaker 1: people or make it better in any kind of way.
Speaker 1: It stars We're not Renceive, who was was also in
Speaker 1: Trier's Worst Person in the World, which is I promise
Speaker 1: you this if you've seen Worst Person in the World,
Speaker 1: which I loved, I thought it was crazy. Movie left
Speaker 1: me feel a beautiful film left me feeling very very sad.
Speaker 2: Very sad.
Speaker 1: I watched since I was.
Speaker 3: Unexpected comic book movie because the guy is a graphic novelist.
Speaker 3: I love the movie where there's a random person who
Speaker 3: has a cartooning career.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I'm so excited for this one.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it, but I'm already grateful for the
Speaker 3: movie because of how incredible the interview they did or
Speaker 3: Actors on Actors' Style Variety interview with both stell and
Speaker 3: Scarsgard and Alexander kind of talking about this movie and
Speaker 3: whether or not it is very realistic to who he
Speaker 3: is as a father or not, which I think is
Speaker 3: really cool.
Speaker 1: So Stellin plays a Gustafborg, a celebrated film director who
Speaker 1: is estrange from his daughters, Nora played by Renatt and Sieve,
Speaker 1: who is a successful stage and TV actress but not
Speaker 1: like a start, like a very talented, walking working actor
Speaker 1: and very talented and respected, and her and his other daughter, Agnes,
Speaker 1: who is a historian. Stellin's mother was in the Dutch
Speaker 1: Resistance and she committed suicide when he was very young,
Speaker 1: when he was walking to school and she killed herself,
Speaker 1: and it has in his mind. He believes something to
Speaker 1: do with her torture at the hands of the Nazis
Speaker 1: d World War two. And all of which is to
Speaker 1: say Stellin's a terrible dad. He is kind of a
Speaker 1: bad He's he makes he's made brilliant films, but he's
Speaker 1: pasted it like he's washed up. And he has not
Speaker 1: maintained the relationships with the people who he has collaborated
Speaker 1: with in the past, namely his his cinematographer law Peter
Speaker 1: excuse me, who is now elderly and you know, has
Speaker 1: mo ability issues and he's at the end of his
Speaker 1: life or you know, approaching it. Anyway. He's healthy, but
Speaker 1: you know, he's old, and he's starting to feel like,
Speaker 1: I'll never make it up to any of these people
Speaker 1: or explain to them how it came to be that
Speaker 1: I hurt all of them so badly and I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do about it. And so he writes
Speaker 1: this movie, and he wants his daughter to be in it,
Speaker 1: and he wants his old collaborators to get into it
Speaker 1: with him. But the thing is, it's you know, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, and when he fails to get his daughter
Speaker 1: in it, he ends up shopping it around, it goes
Speaker 1: to Netflix. In order to get the funding, he has
Speaker 1: to cast Rachel Kent played by el Fanning, who's like
Speaker 1: a famous, famous, famous American actor who is like excited for,
Speaker 1: you know, to be in the movie of an auteur.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like it was like, you know, imagine
Speaker 1: Scarlett Johansson but without the indie cred. Yeah, right, just
Speaker 1: is like, oh, I need Oh, this is great. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do a real artistic movie. And he's struggling with
Speaker 1: the trade offs that he has to make to do
Speaker 1: that to go down that route. Fanning is wonderful in
Speaker 1: the role. She's like she can She's like, do I
Speaker 1: do it in an accent because you know, this is
Speaker 1: aw and he insists that he doesn't have to, but
Speaker 1: then she wants to try it and she can feel
Speaker 1: like there's something deeper in this film that is not
Speaker 1: that I'm not doing. And the end of the movie
Speaker 1: is wonderfully heartwarming. It's an it's like The Secret Agent
Speaker 1: in that you don't kind of understand what it is
Speaker 1: about until you get maybe two thirds of the way
Speaker 1: through the movie, and then when you realize and when
Speaker 1: it hits you like oh wow, my real really beautiful.
Speaker 1: It doesn't excuse the fact that he again is such
Speaker 1: a piece of shit Dad, But like you know, anybody
Speaker 1: who's alive and who's hurt anyone, it grapples with can
Speaker 1: you get can you forgive yourself? Can you can you
Speaker 1: make it up to the people you hurt somehow, you know,
Speaker 1: even if you can't make it right, can you make
Speaker 1: can you explain yourself and can you listen to them
Speaker 1: about their feelings about how they were affected by what
Speaker 1: you did? And can you move past it in some
Speaker 1: sort of way with what time you have left? And
Speaker 1: it's a It's an incredible movie, very very beautiful. You know.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite, I think of all time
Speaker 1: now movies about people making movies. You know, even though it's.
Speaker 2: Oh we love it about love making a movie.
Speaker 1: I love that and I would urge people to watch it.
Speaker 1: It's great. I think you can rent it now, Like
Speaker 1: The Secret Agent, it's very rentable. And again it's like
Speaker 1: it it stretches from like nineteen fifty to twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five and weaves between those those timelines in a way
Speaker 1: that makes you feel the weight of a person's life
Speaker 1: and how it efects for lives that come after. It's
Speaker 1: a great movie.
Speaker 3: I love that so much. Yeah, I mean what, We've
Speaker 3: had such an unbelievable year so far. Aside from even
Speaker 3: just the ones we've mentioned, there's so many incredible movies
Speaker 3: we have yet.
Speaker 2: To talk about.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I've seen it already. It's absolutely heartbreaking, but
Speaker 3: I cannot. I feel like it's a duty that we.
Speaker 2: All have to watch it. The voice of.
Speaker 3: Hind Rajab I've really actually watched it, but I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go see on Saturday night a Q and A with
Speaker 3: the director. That movie's just unbelievable. There's an incredible movie
Speaker 3: that's coming out soon called My Father's Shadow, about a
Speaker 3: dad who kind of unexpectedly spends a day with his
Speaker 3: two sons, and it is just an unbelieva I wouldn't
Speaker 3: want to say more than that, but it's that movie
Speaker 3: really just like knocked it out of me. Like there's
Speaker 3: so many great movies that are outside.
Speaker 2: Of the ones that we love and talk about every
Speaker 2: single week on this show.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a quick break to work.
Speaker 2: And we're back, Jason.
Speaker 3: Any other movies you've seen and want to shout out
Speaker 3: or that you're really excited to see.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to see I want to see the
Speaker 1: movies that we've talked about today that I have.
Speaker 2: It's m hmm.
Speaker 1: I will definitely see Left Handed Girl this weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm very excited to see that. I'm going
Speaker 1: to see a screening of One Battle after Another with
Speaker 1: Bincio Toro tonight at the at Vidiots. Another story, by
Speaker 1: the way, which seeks to wretches intergenerationally is and is
Speaker 1: I think story wise, at least a large part of
Speaker 1: the story is a kind of baton handoff from one
Speaker 1: generation to another.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's our theme for our Oscars season this year.
Speaker 3: I think you've really tapped into something very interesting that Jason.
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that also, Ben just Doomsday will be.
Speaker 4: Trying to do the.
Speaker 2: Like I guess it's.
Speaker 1: Six What Avengers dos Day is like? What is like
Speaker 1: not just an action masterpiece but one of the great
Speaker 1: art films in our time?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 3: I would actually, I'm like, honestly, for all, look dude,
Speaker 3: how funny would it be like Pta has been annoying
Speaker 3: me on this press store let's say that. But I
Speaker 3: would say, hey, look man, let that man make an
Speaker 3: Avengers movie because he made a movie One Bottle after
Speaker 3: another is an engaging action flick with very interesting politics
Speaker 3: and incredible direction. So there is a space, I believe
Speaker 3: for an art house MCU movie.
Speaker 2: Who will be the first one to make it?
Speaker 3: You can argue with me, Michael Giacchino has already already
Speaker 3: maybe mostly maybe something Chloe tried. Obviously I'm a big
Speaker 3: but again it's still a blockbuster movie. Who's gonna make
Speaker 3: the Avengers movie that costs six thousand dollars high a
Speaker 3: share maker?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, just like the IP alone, I think.
Speaker 3: Will I know, I'm like, as long as Marvel lets
Speaker 3: me make it, then I'll just I'll take the cost.
Speaker 2: I'll eat the cost.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess the other thing I would say is like,
Speaker 1: if you like listen, I guess there's a world in
Speaker 1: which if you have Paramount, you will now have all.
Speaker 3: You will have.
Speaker 1: You will have six of six of ten platforms, like
Speaker 1: all bundled into that. But I would really recommend the
Speaker 1: Criterion Channel if you don't just have it, and if
Speaker 1: you have.
Speaker 3: The money to spend yet it is the streaming service
Speaker 3: that I have to pay for every month now I
Speaker 3: have it, I will never go back.
Speaker 2: They curate it unbelievably.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, and the depth of movies. This is the
Speaker 1: thing you can become a You can if you want
Speaker 1: to become literate about movies, about the development of movies,
Speaker 1: about international movies, not just like movies that come out here,
Speaker 1: but the history of international cinema as well. There's all
Speaker 1: these wonderful documentary features in their interviews with filmmaker I.
Speaker 2: Was gonna say they have.
Speaker 3: They put a lot of the Criterion back matter from
Speaker 3: the DVDs and Blu ray release is onto the service.
Speaker 3: So if you're watching a movie that they put out
Speaker 3: on the Criterion Channel, you can access the special features.
Speaker 3: But what really blew me away that I was not
Speaker 3: expecting because I only got it recently to watch Megadoc.
Speaker 4: That was like the first time I got it right,
Speaker 4: So silly, so silly, And but the thing that blew
Speaker 4: my mind is the curation they have that is not
Speaker 4: in the Criterion Channel. So you can go on there
Speaker 4: and yeah, you can watch you know, every Charlie Chaplin
Speaker 4: movie or every Verner Herzog movie, but well not everyone,
Speaker 4: but a selection. But you can go on there and
Speaker 4: you can also watch like an eighties zerotic thriller curation
Speaker 4: that they've found or you know, I watched they had
Speaker 4: an incredible black debutantes, like kind of Ye Female Debuts.
Speaker 3: There was a movie I think it was just called
Speaker 3: The Video Store. I haven't been able to stop thinking about.
Speaker 3: It's legitimately like one of the best movies I've seen,
Speaker 3: and I would never have seen it if it wasn't
Speaker 3: on Criterion. You can also watch classics like The Waterwork,
Speaker 3: Melon Women and stuff, so it has everything. I had
Speaker 3: avoided it for a long time because I think the
Speaker 3: Criterion collection itself, as much as I spend a lot
Speaker 3: of money on it and I love it, is very
Speaker 3: myopic and who it chooses the streaming service is not.
Speaker 1: It is amazing so broad. It's instance right now. There
Speaker 1: are a number of curated collections. One of them is Stunts.
Speaker 1: If you love great stunts. It has includes the movies
Speaker 1: The Road Warrior, Bullet Face Off, to Live and Die
Speaker 1: in La the General, and more so. It stretches from
Speaker 1: silent movie era to like modern day. There is the
Speaker 1: previous two Wuthering Heights movies are there in a collection
Speaker 1: for you to see by.
Speaker 3: The way, guys, both are incredible. It's the original, classic,
Speaker 3: most well known one, really good William Wiler Uki the
Speaker 3: William Wiler one. But there is also the other version,
Speaker 3: which I believe is the best, most.
Speaker 1: Paul, I completely agree. Creditable, directed by Andrea Arnold, starring
Speaker 1: the in my mind, very underrated.
Speaker 4: Let's do a Class Scolardario video episode because she's under
Speaker 4: rated Skins from.
Speaker 1: Coins, Skins Legend kaias Sculadario and James Houston, and I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think it's the best one and
Speaker 1: kind of by far, like oh no, by far.
Speaker 3: It's the first one where they cast a black person
Speaker 3: as Heathler.
Speaker 2: It's a good class one. Well let's talk about him
Speaker 2: the bad.
Speaker 1: That's why you've never o but they put him. They
Speaker 1: put him in makeup.
Speaker 3: But like they we also you get the true ending
Speaker 3: of the movie, which is very cont the book, which
Speaker 3: is very controversial. It's the only version I've seen that
Speaker 3: makes you feel as desolate as you feel when you
Speaker 3: are a teenager hanging out on those moors, which.
Speaker 2: I did as a lot as a kid because my
Speaker 2: grandma lived near there. So it is so good. Yeah, Jason,
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought that up. It's such a
Speaker 2: great investment, guys.
Speaker 1: I think it's an incredible investment.
Speaker 2: If you love movies, and that's the reason you stream.
Speaker 3: This is why I pitch everyone spend ten ninety nine
Speaker 3: a month on Criterion or get the year for ninety
Speaker 3: nine dollars.
Speaker 2: And we are not. By the way, we couldn't even
Speaker 2: get into the Criterion collection truck, so we are not.
Speaker 1: We all panel my nose for this. But I wanted
Speaker 1: to say, here's the movie.
Speaker 3: That would You Be and You, which is free and
Speaker 3: you basically can cover all of cinema, which is amazing.
Speaker 2: Jason, what's your number one movie?
Speaker 1: Cut on Cut by the Tides China twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: movie from China, and it is a it's it's so
Speaker 1: hard to really describe it. Ga took like b roll
Speaker 1: and footage that wasn't used in his other movies and
Speaker 1: put it together in this dream like almost fashion that
Speaker 1: chronicles the rise and development of China through you know,
Speaker 1: the the nineties to the two thousands, and you just
Speaker 1: watch everything change and beautiful.
Speaker 2: Beauty, similar vibes.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, guys, I can't tell you. Criterion and two
Speaker 3: B that's the two that I live and die by.
Speaker 3: Everything else's dress for work. But yeah, Jason, I'm so
Speaker 3: happy and March a little bit chill. Maybe we'll get
Speaker 3: to talk about more cool movies.
Speaker 1: Or the next episode of Extra Vision. We're talking about
Speaker 1: a favorite fantasy movies that aren't. That's it for this episode.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Bye x ray Vision is hosted by
Speaker 1: Jason Concepcion and Rosie Knight and is a production of
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Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.
Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abuzafar.
Speaker 3: Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Fay Wack.
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