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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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Speaker 2: A group of House Democrats who've been critical of President

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Speaker 2: Trump's immigration enforcement policies left Washington today to gather in

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Speaker 2: Minnesota for a field hearing titled Kidnapped and Disappeared Trump's

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Speaker 2: Deadly assault on Minnesota, featuring testimony from people impacted by

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Speaker 2: ICE raids in the state. Congresswoman Catherine Clark of Massachusetts,

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Speaker 2: the House Democratic Whip, led that hearing and joined us

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Speaker 2: from the Minnesota State Building in Saint Paul.

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Speaker 3: Listen, well, Joe, thank you, thank you for having me

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Speaker 3: on and bringing attention to this hearing that we held today.

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Speaker 3: And let me tell you, hearing it firsthand from people

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Speaker 3: who have been taken by ICE, US citizens, detained for

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Speaker 3: no reason whatsoever, ripped out of their car, having a

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Speaker 3: tear gas put in through the air filter of their car,

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Speaker 3: just for honking their horn and blowing a whistle. The

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Speaker 3: stories that we heard, and of course we have all

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Speaker 3: seen the horrific video of the shooting of re Rene Good.

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Speaker 3: They really bring to life what is at stake here

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Speaker 3: in Minneapolis and here across the country if we continue

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Speaker 3: to allow ICE to have this unlawful reign of terror

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Speaker 3: on our communities, and so going to your question about

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Speaker 3: what do we do about it as we are having

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Speaker 3: one of the funding bills that funds the Department of

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Speaker 3: Homeland Security coming up potentially next week, and the answer is,

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Speaker 3: we have been very clear with Republicans there needs to

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Speaker 3: be accountability and guardrails in this funding or they are

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Speaker 3: going to have to fund this on their own, because

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Speaker 3: we need to see that we are going to have

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Speaker 3: body cameras, that we are going to have the ability

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Speaker 3: to have actual arrest warrants, that there is going to

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Speaker 3: be proper training for these officers, that we are going

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Speaker 3: to have to look about how ICE is deploying these

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Speaker 3: people who do not seem to have the training or

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Speaker 3: the temperament to protect our communities and is being targeted

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Speaker 3: by this administration in a highly political way.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know Boston and the Boston area has been

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Speaker 2: part of the areas targeted by ICE, whether it's Everet

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Speaker 2: or Revere. With what you just described, If you can

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Speaker 2: get legislation that puts body cameras on agents and provides

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Speaker 2: training for deconfliction, for de escalation, will Democrats be on board?

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Speaker 3: Listen, We're in active negotiations over this weekend. But we

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Speaker 3: need to see real change and a real commitment to

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Speaker 3: it from this administration. And so we have to be

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Speaker 3: assured that the billions of dollars that they have poured

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Speaker 3: in too Ice, it's sevenfold the size agency that it was.

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Speaker 3: It is now the largest law enforcement agency in the

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Speaker 3: federal government, is actually serving a national security purpose. And

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Speaker 3: what we saw today in this hearing, what we heard

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Speaker 3: from people in Minnesota, whether that was the chief of police,

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Speaker 3: whether it was the mayor of both Minneapolis and Saint Paul.

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Speaker 3: We got to speak with the governor earlier, the Attorney General,

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Speaker 3: all of them with the same message. If this is

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Speaker 3: happening in Minnesota, it can happen in your hometown as well.

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Speaker 1: And so we at this moment have.

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Speaker 3: To stand up for our constitution, for the rule of law,

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Speaker 3: for fundamental fairness, and the end of terror that we're

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Speaker 3: seeing here in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 4: Congress Woman, while your group today obviously feels very strongly

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Speaker 4: about this, are you getting any assurances from your colleagues

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Speaker 4: or colleagues on the other side of the aisle that

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Speaker 4: they would be in favor of this and that you

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Speaker 4: can get it done fairly quickly.

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Speaker 1: I have to say.

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Speaker 3: In a day that was filled with both outrage and inspiration,

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Speaker 3: it was just such a blow to know that not

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Speaker 3: a single Republican from Minnesota has spoken out against what

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Speaker 3: they're seeing happening in their own communities.

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Speaker 1: And it is not just restrained to the Twin Cities.

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Speaker 3: It is throughout Minnesota, and as you know Joe pointed out,

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Speaker 3: throughout communities in my district and across the country.

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Speaker 1: So this is the moment.

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Speaker 3: This isn't a left or right issue, a red or

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Speaker 3: blue issue.

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Speaker 1: This is about.

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Speaker 3: Who are we going to be? Are we going to

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Speaker 3: be a country that has law enforcement that is working

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Speaker 3: for the safety and security of our communities, that are

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Speaker 3: accountable and transparent and well trained, or are we going

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Speaker 3: to have a mass paramilitary special force that is working

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Speaker 3: on behalf of the president and carrying out political retribution.

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Speaker 3: And this should not be a partisan issue. So we're

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Speaker 3: going to continue to negotiate. I hope that people will

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Speaker 3: come and hear what happened in Minneapolis and take those

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Speaker 3: lessons of this is the moment History is calling us

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Speaker 3: to stand up at this moment and say, while we

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Speaker 3: are fighting for the economic security to lower the cost

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Speaker 3: of living, for Americans make sure we protect their healthcare.

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Speaker 3: We also have to stand up at this moment for

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Speaker 3: our constitutional rights, whether it's the First Amendment right to

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Speaker 3: protest peacefully, or whether it is the right to just

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Speaker 3: go about your daily life and not have to fear

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Speaker 3: being stopped, asked for papers, and possibly abducted.

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Speaker 4: Congresswoman, this is all happening within weeks of a possible

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Speaker 4: government shut down. Are you willing to shut down the

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Speaker 4: government over this?

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Speaker 3: You know, we have had one approach around these government budgets,

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Speaker 3: and that is negotiate and imploring our Republican colleagues to

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Speaker 3: come to the table and negotiate with us.

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Speaker 1: And we saw what happened back in the fall.

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Speaker 3: Rather than coming and working with us around extending the

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Speaker 3: ACA tax credits, they chose to go home, to close

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Speaker 3: the government down, and to leave town for over forty days.

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Speaker 3: I certainly hope they are not going to make that

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Speaker 3: choice now and do that again to the American people,

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Speaker 3: to our economy, and to the message that it would

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Speaker 3: send that they are unwilling to come and negotiate around

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Speaker 3: guardrails for ICE and DHS and would choose ACA.

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Speaker 2: Matter is still not resolved Congresswoman, I'm just wondering where

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Speaker 2: your head is on this. I know there's the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Marino bill in the Senate, but senators just left town

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Speaker 2: House won't be here when they get back. Is the

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Speaker 2: extension of Obamacare subsidies on the rocks?

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Speaker 1: Oh? It certainly is.

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Speaker 3: And what a tragedy and what a statement to the

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Speaker 3: American people. We had seventeen Republican members of Congress join

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Speaker 3: us in a three year extension to give time to

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Speaker 3: the American people to delay the pikes we're seeing in

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Speaker 3: premiums and to leave DC without resolving this, to let

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Speaker 3: the last day of enrollment in the ACA come and go.

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Speaker 1: It is just part of what we are seeing in

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Speaker 1: difference on.

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Speaker 3: Behalf of this administration, and my colleagues across the island

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Speaker 3: Congress to the plight of American people, and they are

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Speaker 3: telling us loudly they can't afford their lives, whether it's

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Speaker 3: the cost of housing or groceries or utility bills. And certainly,

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Speaker 3: what is so fundamental to giving your family security to

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Speaker 3: have affordable health insurance so they can get care when

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Speaker 3: and where they need it. All of that has been

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Speaker 3: turned upside down by Republicans and Congress and this administration

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Speaker 3: taking away healthcare.

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Speaker 1: In order to fund tax cuts. But we will stay

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Speaker 1: with it.

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Speaker 3: We will keep the pressure up, whether it's on healthcare,

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Speaker 3: whether it's on lowering costs, certainly on whether it is

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Speaker 3: putting guardrails and accountability and stopping this invasion.

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