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Speaker 1: These last few days, it feels like the injury bug

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Speaker 1: on all the names that went down in just the

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Speaker 1: last few days for the Marlins, Brian Anderson, Max Meyer,

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Speaker 1: Jorge Solaire, Cody Poteit, Tommy Nance, Garrett Cooper. The biggest

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Speaker 1: to get a field for some of the possibilities what

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Speaker 1: And it was Jeff Brigham, newly brought back up from TRIPLEA,

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Speaker 1: looking back several weeks for Jackson Rose. He's being put

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Speaker 1: Rose has only allowed one earned run during a sample

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Speaker 1: intriguing and obviously well deserved for Jackson Rose getting this recognition.

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Speaker 1: On the hitting side, somebody we've picked before, Charles LeBlanc

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Speaker 5: the great country of Canada, the French Canadian ghost, come home.

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Speaker 6: Enjoy all right, So for now, I've only got a

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Speaker 7: We got we got. Riley has requested, what is good?

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Speaker 7: What trade dots do you have right now?

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Speaker 3: Anything strike your attention on the market right now or

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Speaker 3: on the rumor mill Uh So, I haven't seen any

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Speaker 8: But I saw the Cedric Mullins for a problem, and

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Speaker 7: I'm not exactly opposed to that trade.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if the Orioles would do it, just

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Speaker 7: I actually doubt they would do it, but I would.

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Speaker 3: I don't think i'd have a problem with that deal.

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Speaker 3: But I can't say I'm opposed to that right now.

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Speaker 3: I think I don't know if they do that one

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Speaker 7: He's a key part of their future.

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Speaker 3: But look, Cedric Mullens's name has been mentioned many, many

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Speaker 7: So I've intrieved by it.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 7: Do you know who you heard that from? Where you

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Speaker 8: And had another name in mind that U haven't seen

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Speaker 3: Okay, but Adulus Garcia, those Garcia, I know he is.

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Speaker 7: I don't know his stats this year at all.

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Speaker 7: But he looks like he's he's.

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Speaker 3: Not really young. But I think he has some control.

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Speaker 7: Next year and then after that he's got three years

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Speaker 3: He's not a free agent until twenty twenty seven. But

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Speaker 7: I have zero clue.

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Speaker 3: They have half a billion dollars invested in their infield,

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Speaker 7: Remember Kevin and real.

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Speaker 3: Quick and maybe he can get his thoughts on it.

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Speaker 3: Kevin and I will probably kind of run this space today.

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Speaker 7: I know he was excited about it.

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Speaker 7: So, Kevin, what are your thoughts on Adulas Garcia.

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Speaker 9: I would love Adoles, but that's pretty unrealistic. And the

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Speaker 9: So yeah, the Morlins are are the only way the

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Speaker 3: Right now. They're not sleeping Cincinnati. They are not sweeping

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Speaker 7: And look, the Reds are on fire right now too.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a little on track of the trays,

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of scared for it. But oh oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Marlins are gonna buy and I

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Speaker 7: Are guys with control.

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Speaker 3: That's why I have like contract details pulled up and

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Speaker 7: Like Luis Castillo is great, but are you really gonna

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Speaker 3: The team needs and what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 9: The Monits are gonna sell and they need a young,

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Speaker 3: Stuff any center fielder. They don't need bull maybe a

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Speaker 3: You see it every year, like different guys just come

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Speaker 3: That's all purely speculation. But Anthony Bass is getting delt.

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Speaker 7: You can't trade act, you know, basically if Cooper goes

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Speaker 3: Trade b A because he's on the Yeah, there's just

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Speaker 3: I'm Fanagrass. Right now, they have desar to lined.

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Speaker 9: Up for August for that Cincinnati series.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, August second, alright.

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Speaker 7: Second, So it comes back on deadline dead.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't think that's it's span Grass, So

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much he's got one more start

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Speaker 3: I think it takes some maids that he may stop by.

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Speaker 3: your mind right now? Marlins? Well, I think they should

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Speaker 3: get Jagielde a max contract.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, earned it two for four stolen base He's basically

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Speaker 1: Suppose that.

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Speaker 3: Look, jjbil Day, I know you can't assess anything off

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Speaker 7: He may be it.

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's going to do a decent amount

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Speaker 7: I think he'll do it. Balde goes back to Martonville.

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Speaker 9: It's gonna happen the second is healthy.

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Speaker 3: Hen I could sense it happening if he gets off

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Speaker 7: He really could. At least that's my hope.

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Speaker 3: That's entirely my Hope's look at requests real quick. Devin

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Speaker 7: Oh lord, he had some really oh lord, alright trade

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Speaker 10: Let's see looking at the Cardinals for Pablo.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, the Cardinals have just been linked to another

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Speaker 7: That name is Juan Soto.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you're gonna stay to bring him.

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Speaker 7: Let me look at the Cardinals roster. If we're trading Pablo,

438
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Speaker 7: I want young MLB talent, probably if.

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Speaker 3: It's the one for one swot like Nolan Gordon just

440
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Speaker 3: this week. I think maybe even in the fifth stripe

441
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Speaker 3: shot and nave In, Leise, Tyler and Neil for Pabo.

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Speaker 7: Straight up.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Cardinals would do it, but the

444
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Speaker 3: guy would satisfy me. Probably looking at Carlson.

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Speaker 7: Carlson, I like Carlson, although Jordan. Let me look at

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Speaker 7: the stats of this year.

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Speaker 3: The Morns and not get Jordan Walker for Pablo. I

448
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Speaker 3: don't believe they would.

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Speaker 7: No, whoever said that, No.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I'm just naming play that. I'm looking at

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Speaker 3: your top thirty right now. I was talking about one.

452
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Speaker 3: So no, Don Soto is gonna get any team's first

453
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Speaker 3: four prospects, like it's just the time it's gonna go.

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Speaker 3: I know MLB Instagram is absolute cancer, but that one

455
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Speaker 3: graphic that showed like every team's probable proposal was decently accurate,

456
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Speaker 3: Like it's gonna take every team's not for prospects, they'll

457
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Speaker 3: take any young MLB.

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Speaker 4: I just saw Dylan carl Is the centerfield Instagram MLB insta,

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Speaker 4: not on the actual MLB's Instagram, but like that community.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I got you. That would be weird, that

461
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Speaker 3: would be bizarre to just openly be endorsing that. Dylan good.

462
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Speaker 7: Is man on base persentage is three thirty one.

463
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Speaker 3: That's not bad. That's just for this year. He's staying

464
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Speaker 3: on par with all of his career averages. Honestly, I'm

465
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Speaker 3: looking at his nice he has a very nice x

466
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Speaker 3: will bo. I'll say that three fourteen. That's pretty decent.

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Speaker 11: Not a ship too well, you just needed a week off,

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Speaker 11: expected way it be.

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Speaker 7: I think he's got like three more years control.

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Speaker 3: I think on my computer, you're creating twenty seven. You're yeah,

471
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Speaker 3: you're right, you're a twenty twenty seven. Four years.

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Speaker 7: He's got four more playing years. Not we don't even

473
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Speaker 7: reach it for five. Yeah, but we don't read four

474
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Speaker 7: and a half. I believe it at that.

475
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Speaker 3: We don't have to do arbitration until twenty twenty four.

476
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Speaker 3: The Cardinals have their window open. The NL Central is

477
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Speaker 3: pure shit. I gotta get Daniel back in here. I

478
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Speaker 3: was looking at my computer too long. I mean, the Cubs,

479
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Speaker 3: Pirates and Reds aren't gonna be ready anytime soon. The

480
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Speaker 3: Pirates are the only team there. It's going to be

481
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Speaker 3: close anytime soon. The Brewers, I want to say, maybe reaching.

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Speaker 7: The end of their window.

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Speaker 3: I don't know for sure, I really don't.

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Speaker 7: So the Cardinals time is now.

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Speaker 3: The Cardinals want to go do something they should Dylan Carlson,

486
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Speaker 3: I don't know if he really fits their timeline all

487
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Speaker 3: that well. I get that he's young, I get the

488
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: stats are decent, but I think Lopez's in.

489
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Speaker 7: Need of Theirs in their timeline better.

490
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Speaker 3: So I got say it's probably the best trade proposal

491
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Speaker 3: we see so far, finding a package that has Carlson

492
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Speaker 3: in it. I don't know if I do it one

493
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Speaker 3: for one spot, I don't know what the Cardinals would want.

494
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Speaker 3: The Cardinals are definitely going for a bigger fish right now.

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Speaker 3: So what are anyone else's thoughts on this? I think

496
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Speaker 3: I've said LA would be very nice. Yes, the Dogs,

497
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Speaker 3: not the Angels. I don't know what the Angels are doing.

498
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Speaker 3: I mean, the Angels would give up a lot because

499
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Speaker 3: the Angels aren't smart, they're desperate. Yeah, it reminds me

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Speaker 3: of the Marlins. Yeah, it looks slightly just with the big.

501
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Speaker 7: Ass contracts and the talent that they can't give any

502
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Speaker 7: supporting cast too.

503
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Speaker 3: I guess that's a little bit like us right now,

504
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Speaker 3: even though it's cheap. But like I see some parallel.

505
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Speaker 3: I see a little bit parallels there. If you're if

506
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Speaker 3: you're looking at the Doggers, you would have to look minors.

507
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to give up much major

508
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Speaker 3: league time. I do doubt they would, but they're far

509
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Speaker 3: looks he's gonna be a free give up looks Devin

510
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Speaker 3: looks Dad left Field.

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Speaker 7: I don't know. Some dude may have been lying. He's

512
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Speaker 7: got control.

513
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Speaker 3: I feel like so he never mind.

514
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Speaker 7: Yeah, because I was disgusting.

515
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Speaker 3: With people earlier about short stop next year, and someone

516
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Speaker 3: said I'll go get Gavin Lux, I guess I read

517
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Speaker 3: that as sign as to have him play second. Take

518
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Speaker 3: a low flyer on him because he's not having a

519
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Speaker 3: good season right now. Yeah, but we know what he's

520
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Speaker 3: capable of.

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Speaker 10: Are you guys, Are you guys confident that Jazz can

522
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Speaker 10: place shortstopper?

523
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Speaker 3: No? No, No, he's a second basement. I don't know

524
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: he's been converted to a second basement. If he were

525
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Speaker 3: to play shortstop, that would that would be a complete

526
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Speaker 3: last resort.

527
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Speaker 7: I get that was his.

528
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Speaker 10: Coming from MB but that would just be a little desperate. Hey,

529
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 10: it hasn't looked good, but I mean, like you said,

530
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Speaker 10: it's a health thing.

531
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how you can expect to

532
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Speaker 3: trot Jazz out there for triple digit games at the position.

533
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: It's even more agile, and not that he's got a

534
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: decent little injury history on his resume. You can put

535
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: Joey Window out there too, but Jolly Wendell is not

536
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: an everyday player. He's talented enough to be an everyday player,

537
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: but physically he's not. He's been a platoon player pretty

538
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Speaker 3: much his entire career, and now the Marlins are overworking

539
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: him and eventually that hamstring is going to get injured

540
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: again if they keep playing him like this at least,

541
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Speaker 3: so short stop all of a sudden, not it, It's

542
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Speaker 3: really be brought. Harry's attention to Miguel Rojas may not

543
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: stay much longer. I feel like that becomes the biggest

544
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Speaker 3: off season. Indeed, if you look at a lot of

545
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Speaker 3: the past World Series winning teams, they've all had a

546
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Speaker 3: really good shortstop. They all had one. Yeah, Mickey, he's

547
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Speaker 3: a great defensively, he's a great defensive short stop Gold

548
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: Glove candidate, but his hitting, it's not gonna pass Loon.

549
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. I mean, especially with the Marlins,

550
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: like who's the next closest guy.

551
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 7: Bryson Bergman like and even that's not a long term answer,

552
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 7: like Khalil.

553
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: Watson light years away more than that.

554
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 7: So you gotta go outside the box. You gotta go

555
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 7: to the market. You gotta go to the trade.

556
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Speaker 4: Could anyone get the free agents shortstops for next year?

557
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: I know Trey Turner, Janner, Bogarts are in there. I

558
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: really want Trey Turner after I found out he.

559
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Speaker 12: Grew up a Marlins fan, Dansby Swanson, Dancy Swanson looked

560
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Speaker 12: his wife is quite beautiful, now I kidding, I mean,

561
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Speaker 12: he'd be nice to have, but.

562
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Speaker 3: Let's be honest, any of those Yeah, I would take

563
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Speaker 3: any of them in harmony.

564
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Speaker 7: If we can get Dansby for the right price, absoluec ltely.

565
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Speaker 7: But here's the thing. The Marlins themselves over financially with Episode.

566
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Speaker 3: Garcia and Jorges Hilaire. They go get rid of one

567
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: of those guys at the deadline, I'd be pretty happy,

568
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: and I feel pretty good about maybe.

569
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Speaker 7: Going to sign one of these other guys.

570
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Speaker 9: I think we should be talking about like what the

571
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Speaker 9: Marlins did in the draft and how that translates to

572
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Speaker 9: big league club because it is.

573
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Speaker 3: Very, very interesting. Yes, their strategy. They have acknowledged that

574
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: they suck at something, they cannot develop a hitting talent

575
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: that well. And they've also acknowledged that they have an

576
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: insane fuck I just completely blank they have in same

577
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: pitching development.

578
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Speaker 7: And just before they went right after.

579
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Speaker 3: The draft was during the All Star break, so after

580
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: right before we came back to Texas, jeez. Then they

581
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: were confident. And I don't know how many starting pictures

582
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: totally got, but it was majority by far. The majority trades,

583
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 3: whether it's happening at this deadline or it's happening in

584
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 3: the off season, trades are coming.

585
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 7: We don't know what trades, we don't know what starting

586
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 7: pictures are getting traded. I can pretty much.

587
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Speaker 3: Guaranteed Sandy's going to stay, almost guarantee URI's going to

588
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 3: stay unless some huge.

589
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 7: Ury is like the only untouchable they have right now

590
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 7: in Sandy Uri Sandy.

591
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: In terms of healthy players, I'd say I'd throw Jazz

592
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: in their twoty. Not healthy can't get traded.

593
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 7: So as of right now, you got two unpuitles in

594
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Speaker 7: your entire organization.

595
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 3: There are many many starting pictures anyone can just point

596
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: to and say, yep, we want them. They took twelve

597
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: pictures that way in the DROW.

598
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 7: I thought it was a lot more.

599
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Speaker 3: After that second day, I thought they were gonna go

600
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Speaker 3: nineteen pictures on Hitter. Oh bad, fourteen pictures. I'm sorry, murtaine, okay,

601
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Speaker 3: and they just signed one. They actually just signed on

602
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 3: Kyle Krueger.

603
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 9: They got the oh yeah, they got such an extremely

604
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 9: low value for thirty seven kids. And it is and

605
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 9: for just for reference where he was picked, his slot

606
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 9: values like two hundred and two ks.

607
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: So the mark I think that's what it was.

608
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 7: At least I'm probably looking at it completely wrong.

609
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 3: But they got him for way under the slot value. Yeah,

610
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 3: I'm looking at two ocasions. Number two of two pick

611
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 3: is two hundred and thirty nine kick.

612
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 7: So and Miami signed up for thirty seven thousand, five

613
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 7: hundred dollars, So that props to them, props them. That

614
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 7: will help the bonus pool in the future drafts.

615
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: Obviously we talked about that all.

616
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 7: We don't try to talk about that on.

617
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: The stream.

618
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 7: To draft other guys, I mean draft sorry sign.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're pretty much you're nearly guaranteed to get everyone

620
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: unless they decided to go to college route or they

621
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 3: want to test out another year like next year. So

622
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Speaker 3: I tried to mention this in the draft stream. There

623
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: was a lot going on in said draft stream. The

624
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: Marlins had a decent sized pool. They had the eighth

625
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: best pool, but they also had the sixth pick, so

626
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: they were kind of in a weird spot where like

627
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: if they went above slot, like they were gonna have

628
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 3: to go value picks for rest. The draft people were

629
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Speaker 3: very surprised by the Kumar pick, but looking back on it,

630
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 3: really we should have been that surprised. The Rangers were

631
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 3: very middle of the pack with their pool.

632
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 7: They had the third pick.

633
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: Their total pool was like just over eight million, So

634
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: that the Rangers went with Parada, let's say, or brooks Lee,

635
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: they maybe got a million dollars. It was spent on

636
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: the rest of the draft picks. It wasn't gonna end

637
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: well for them. So I think, looking back on I

638
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: didn't really realize it at the time. We were all

639
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: shocked at that pick. Looking back, it makes a lot

640
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: of sense. They went value right there. And of course

641
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 3: the Marlin's paid very very overslat for Leil Watson or

642
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: I mean not over tap, but like you know what

643
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: I mean, like he fell to them. So that affected

644
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: this year's bonus pool. It doesn't entirely carry over, but

645
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: it plays a factor in my understanding. I've gone through

646
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: a bonus pool loophole since learning more about it on

647
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 3: Sunday Stream.

648
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 7: So real quick back to freezing shortstops. Danny was asking

649
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Speaker 7: about them.

650
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 3: Tim Anderson twelve point five million dollar club with a

651
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: one million dollar buyout. I think the it's safe to

652
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: stick of white Sox is going to pick that up

653
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: pretty much all they've gotten going for right now. But

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Speaker 3: this is an alphabetical order. I was like, Elis Anders

655
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Speaker 3: is not the second best short stop. Sander Bogart can

656
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: remaining three years of his deal, Carlos Correa can opt out.

657
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: It's really expensive to go. Charlie Culberson is on there,

658
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: they sang, Charlie Culgerson, I think I'm out.

659
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 7: Nie Gregorius is on there. That's not horrible horrible if

660
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Speaker 7: you get into a one or two year.

661
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: Deal, they said, any more than that, that'd be bad.

662
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: You can get like a stop gap shortstop for just

663
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Speaker 3: a year or two. How old is ne go try

664
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Speaker 3: again next year? Thirty three?

665
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Speaker 7: I mean, most of the short stops in the market

666
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 7: are decently old.

667
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: The youngest top short stop that's going to hit the

668
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: market is Carlos k twenty. You got your voice Glaciers

669
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 3: out there this year, Kevin Oh, he's the big Iglasius guy.

670
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Speaker 3: I am.

671
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 7: This is out there.

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00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: Obviously we mentioned dan Zy my guy now, Trey Turner

673
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: and Jonathan VR which I don't think any of us

674
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Speaker 3: really want that reunion.

675
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 7: He's got df A today.

676
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: How much you think.

677
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 4: Like people like?

678
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 3: It's a good question. A lot is what I can say.

679
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: Hell is definitely gonna help his value. Uh see who

680
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: else is on here?

681
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 7: They can play shortstop.

682
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Speaker 3: I mentioned it today as another like stop gap option

683
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: for just like a year or two. You can go

684
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: get Kyle Parmer from the Reds. He's better than Rojas

685
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: to play his defense, is all right, It's not a

686
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: world beating. I don't think it's really going to find

687
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: a lot of guys out there with better defense than

688
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: Miguel Rojas like in this market. But you can go

689
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 3: trade for caliform. I don't think the Reds would ask

690
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: for that much. The Reds have a lot of becoming

691
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: infielders in their system, is what I've observed. So you

692
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: could probably go get Californmer for decive price. That that

693
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: would be like the big splash everyone wants is also

694
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: the problem. I've got some requests here. I'll bring in

695
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: some people here real quick. Any thoughts whatsoever, Let's hear

696
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: what kind of trade thoughts you guys have, or off

697
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: season thoughts.

698
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 7: Too, because trade deadline kind of.

699
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 3: Got roomed with these injuries. Let's be honest, we wanted

700
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: Brian Arison trade it. There's no chance for him to

701
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Speaker 3: get traded now. Max Meyer won't be going in any

702
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: blockbuster deals. Garrett Cooper, I would say it was probably

703
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: gonna get put on the aisle at some point. I'm

704
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: not definitive on that, but they said there was something

705
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: in that X ray that doesn't seem too promises.

706
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 7: So to the two people I just brought in here, what.

707
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Speaker 3: Do you guys have for me? Hey? Can you hear me? Yes?

708
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Speaker 10: So, yeah, just being realistic, I feel like Turner and Swanson,

709
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 10: those guys mon's are.

710
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: Never going to pay for those guys untunately. Yeah, A really,

711
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 3: I think.

712
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Speaker 10: A good idea is a guy like a med Rosaru

713
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 10: who next year is his last year of arbitration.

714
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 7: And the Guardians had three.

715
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: Middle infielders that are in Triple A and are top prospects,

716
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: so they might be I've seen that name get brought

717
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: up a little bit more recently. I'm sorry, let me

718
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: check his stats this year.

719
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 7: I have anything American League.

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Speaker 3: I've seen that name floating around. I saw this, I

721
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 3: saw this, I know every I know people have seen

722
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: this one.

723
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 9: But someone said on Twitter trade Bass and Khalil Watson

724
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 9: from Rosario.

725
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: And I was just close to blocking that person.

726
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 7: But it was a terrible trade.

727
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: That's like the worst trait I've ever seen in my life.

728
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: That's literally what I told him. I was like, what

729
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: about something along the line, what about a Bass and

730
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: Clei Watson package. He had to have really strange package.

731
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Speaker 7: I'm in shock.

732
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: What about seven five slashing two ninety five, three thirty three,

733
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: four twelve this year? That's not a bad slash line.

734
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Speaker 1: Uh.

735
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Speaker 3: The problem is the Guardians are going for it. That

736
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 3: al playoff race is tight, is very tight. Two socks

737
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 3: teams are probably be the only ones ATSEL maybe white socks.

738
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Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell they're gonna do.

739
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 7: The Red Sox are definitely gonna sell, so I don't

740
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Speaker 7: know what.

741
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Speaker 3: I think the Guardians will be more likely the deal

742
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: I'm with the off season that the trade's dead. That's

743
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: what I was thinking.

744
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think you're a little more likely to

745
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 7: see that. The Marlins are definitely gonna be a lot more.

746
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Speaker 3: Active in the off season.

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Speaker 7: I would say, I think it's because of the situation

748
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 7: with the roster right now at.

749
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 3: The trade deadline. It gives you a year to determine

750
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: if you want to extend him, if you can extend him,

751
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: or if you know, if you want to see if

752
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: someone like Jose.

753
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 7: Salas you know, emerges as the the twenty twenty four.

754
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Speaker 3: Guy at SUTs.

755
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Speaker 7: You know, it gives you, gives you options, yeah, and

756
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 7: then even dead.

757
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know where the Rojas rumors one

758
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: hundred came from Roscat very wealthy, the starting shortstop on

759
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: opening day twenty twenty three. But a long term speaking,

760
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, what do you do? I mean, Rojas

761
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: is getting older, He's not going to be the more

762
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: sort of stop forever. But I think it's good too.

763
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: Just look at this, so I want to shift real

764
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: quick to the outfield. Jjble Day we talked about at

765
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 3: the beginning that guy is going to be something. I think.

766
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Speaker 7: I know I've said that, but I think jj abel

767
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Speaker 7: Day may finally.

768
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: Be like the first hitting prospect and the Marvels have

769
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: had like burst onto the sea that they fully developed.

770
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Speaker 7: I'm really impressed so far. I know it's just one game.

771
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Speaker 3: I said this already too, but I'm really excited to

772
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 3: go talk to him tomorrow. But I mean, your corner

773
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: outfielders today we're Jesus Sanchez, Brian de la Cruz. But

774
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: it's not feasible long term. But the way they've been

775
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: playing right now, so I don't know where they're going

776
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: to go from there. I mean, Jorge Silaire has been disappointing,

777
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 3: but I think he could maybe get it together out

778
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: of all the disappointing signings they've made this offseason. I've

779
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: been on record saying this, I think Jorge Hilaire's salvageable

780
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 3: because he has a knack for having really good second half.

781
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: Although people who have just been saying that basicly go

782
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: off last year. He was in Atlanta last year. Everyone

783
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: plays better when they were with the Braids, unfortunately, But

784
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: when jorgece Ailaric comes back, I wouldn't be surprised if

785
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 3: he comes firing out at the gates.

786
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 7: It's just I think his approach is a little bit

787
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 7: messed up right now.

788
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: And Daylor Cruise, I mean, he shaid great signs last year,

789
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: but I don't know what's happened to him either outside

790
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: of the occasional home run. I feel like he's been

791
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: non exaus at scent of the plate as well. I

792
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: don't know where they're going to go for the outfield.

793
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: I would love to see some of these outfielders get

794
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 3: called up. I want to see Verdict. I want to

795
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 3: see Verdi, not Malte Harrison trade. Okay, okay, multi for Pablo.

796
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just accept that. I know it would accept

797
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 7: that as loud Marlins fans.

798
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: No coming.

799
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 7: He may or may not have to signed and framed

800
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 7: Manta Harrison Jersey. For those who don't know, I don't

801
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 7: know what the.

802
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: Market looks like for outfielders this year, and the.

803
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 7: Marlins haveing a pretty bad track record.

804
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: Already of outfield's signings.

805
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 7: But I'm just taking a piece.

806
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: Like the biggest thing I guess you could mention is Loriano.

807
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: That's about it. I mean, oh yeah, I think yeah,

808
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: But the problem with path is this control situation. They

809
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: would have to really buy in general, I'm not talking Marlins,

810
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: I'm talking in general of the guys on that outfield market.

811
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the market right now, Like I would say,

812
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: Loriano may stay put more likely so the big fifth, Yes,

813
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: I just I don't know if he's gonna get dealt

814
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: with this deadline. I feel like it's if we're gonna

815
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: go across sports here. I feel like it's a very

816
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant situation. It's such a big historic potential net

817
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: that you don't know what they're gonna like get. And

818
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: the Nationals have half the league hitting their line. I

819
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 3: don't know if the Naturals are ready to give away

820
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: a generational player in a two week span. I think

821
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 3: they may wait towards the offseason, although it's a very

822
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: risky move for health reasons. But I just think that

823
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: it would probably be wise to assess a little bit

824
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: more unless opers keep coming in. I know there's a

825
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: lot of so much shady sources out there, like saying

826
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 3: that they're plugged in on the Sodo situation, MLB leaks,

827
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 3: MLB Nerds.

828
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 7: Although Emily Nerds has had a couple that scoops.

829
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: Although I won't go down that rabbit hole today. I

830
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: don't know who's plugged in on the Soda situation. I

831
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: don't know what reporter I can like really rely on

832
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: right now to give me good set updates. Although I

833
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 3: think the last like verified one. I think ESPN and

834
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: like send it out on their notifications that the Cardinals

835
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: are becoming a potential front runner for once, even though

836
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: that's what I haven't heard much of. Is Michael A. Taylor.

837
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: That's that's interesting, not for not even the Marlins, just

838
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: in general. I'm talkings here because I know he was

839
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: Michael A.

840
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 7: Taylor.

841
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: He was rumored to be a Marlin signing last off

842
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: season and I was gonna throw a fifth ended up

843
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: being there. Good like they're big signing.

844
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 7: But of course fast forward to this summer and I.

845
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be all that mass. The Marlins themselves got Michael A. Taylor,

846
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: but I think Michael A. Taylor will probably get dealt.

847
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: I think it's safe to say, though I don't really

848
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: know what the Royals are doing. The rules are sewing

849
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: and they're trying to sell that attendee. That's the one

850
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: depend attend He's getting traded within the next few days

851
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: more likely, and also a quick sign note real quick

852
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: and just crossed my mind. Trade market's been waiting a

853
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: while to like get legit moves happening because because you

854
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: got the fan of playoffs this year, more teams think

855
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 3: they can compete, just like our Marlins. So they're waiting

856
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: till the last second we go see if you know,

857
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 3: or did they want to go buy it or do

858
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: they want to go sell. That's why the trademarket's been

859
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: rise can be right now because most year's maybe about

860
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: a week and a half before the deadline, you see

861
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: things start to eat up. If you like like a

862
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 3: memory sticks out in my mind. The most is Johnny

863
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: Cuato trade in twenty fifteen, Like that happened like a

864
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: week and a half for a trade deadline. It was

865
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: right after the All Star break. I think Manny Manchado

866
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: got built like three weeks before the trade deadline two

867
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 3: to la from the Orioles, if I remember right, I

868
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: think he got built during that All Star break. I

869
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 3: think so this year, I mean, so vog back, what's

870
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: really happened. You've got the trade deadline. Once we go

871
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 3: to bed to night and wait up tomorrow, it'll be

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Speaker 3: eight days until trade deadline day and you've got go

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Speaker 3: go back as your big move, barring any big trades

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Speaker 3: half of the night.

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Speaker 7: So that's just a little to done that.

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Speaker 3: If anyone's wondering why the trademarket has been pretty dry recently,