1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Sure know how to put them together in the old country, 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: the old family coach, and that body was handmade. What 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: a phone car, ron Ananian, and there's how many miles 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: on the CN It wouldn't be the worst idea to 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: drop the pan once of a very big The car Doctor. Heyllo, 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: welcome to the Car Doctor. How are you? I have 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: a two thousand sixteen Mexus Sports fifty eight sports nice car. 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: I was wondering what your opinion would be as far 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: as Russ couching or undercoating. UM. I did talk to 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: the Lexus deelers and they recommended not getting it done, 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: and I kind of leaned towards them. You don't stop 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: imagining eight crazy things, I'll think you do? What have you? Achaman, 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Andanian the Car Doctor, 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: call in the garage to orders are open. But I 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: am here to take your calls at eight five five six. 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: And now that's not all nice to say. Much better, Ronny, 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: start your engines along and welcome ronin of the car 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: Doctor zero zero zero. Let's uh, let's wander around as 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: we kind of creep along this Halloween show. This is 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: the pre Halloween show. Um. The must see movie of 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: the week this week, all right, the must see movie 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: of the week this week has to be Hollywood Nights. Um. 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: So let's let's make sure we watched that, because as 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: we all know, that was Halloween Night nine sixty five. 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: That was the that was the after American Graffiti, the Clone. 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: But I'm still a great movie New Bomb Turk in 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: the Gang. So that's the movie to watch this week. 31 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: Let's go over the line. Let's go and talk to 32 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: Jeff Subaru impressive sport. Jeff, welcome along, sir. How can 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: I help Iron Glad to talk to you? Um? Yeah, 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: I've got an impressive sport. I bought used with sixty 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: thousand miles on in January is eighteen. I've had about 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: twenty months and ever since I've gotten it, um well 37 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: at one fine. I really like it. It's one of 38 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: the two point oh engines as opposed to the two 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: point five. Um. It seems to go through a bit 40 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: of oil using about a court in three thousand. Um, 41 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: and you know I've just not had a car do that. Um. 42 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: You know, I know two Bruis are known for blow 43 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: and head gaskets. Um. And actually the light came on 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: yesterday at about miles, which would be the shortest term 45 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: that I've had it going went right back off and 46 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: I've only driven a car about ten miles, so I 47 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: haven't putting any more in at this point. Uh. But 48 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: I just didn't know if that was normal. Um, you know, 49 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: does the full synthetic make a difference. Um? You know, 50 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know if that was a royal that might 51 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: burn off or well it should. Just kind of wanted 52 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: to figure out if I had something to be concerned 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: about with this vehicle. Yeah, I think you do. Do 54 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 1: you have a pencil handy something to write with? Um? 55 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: You want to get your hands on on Subaru bulletin 56 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: oh two Dash one fifty seven, Dash fourteen R. It's 57 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: been revised three or four times, probably more than that. 58 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: The latest release that I'm aware of was August of eighteen, 59 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: and it talks about warrantee extension on thirteen and fourteen, 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: and I believe it goes back to eleven and twelve 61 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: and presses, and and and outbacks and so forth with 62 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: the two leader duel overhead camp for excess of oil consumption. 63 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: All right, and in that bulletin, And I would tell 64 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: you to try and have a copy of the bulletin 65 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: in front of you when you talk to Subaru so 66 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: that you have full knowledge, because some of the things 67 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: in that bulletin are very very specific. For example, they 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: talk about the fact that they consider the vehicle to 69 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: have high oil consumption. Are you ready for this? If 70 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: it burns? If it burns a third of a court 71 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: in twelve hundred miles, now, you know, this is kind 72 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: of like Hyundai saying how much oil does the car take? 73 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: Five point one courts? What? You couldn't make it five courts, 74 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: You couldn't make it five and a half courts. You 75 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: gotta make it five point You know, you wonder You know. 76 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: I have a friend Chris, who was a national trainer 77 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: for Automotive Training Group, and we we talked about and 78 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: laught about it all the time. One of Chris's favorite 79 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: sayings is, you have to wonder what these instructor what 80 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: these engineers are saying. You know, did did they design it? 81 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: In the morning? Go out and have lunch, have one 82 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: too many, and then come back and approve something completely 83 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: against what they designed in the morning, because there's no 84 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: common sense. You know, common sense is not common And 85 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: a third of a court in twelve miles is now 86 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: Subaru's benchmark. If it's burning that that's excessive, and that 87 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: would probably meet your need because you know, a third 88 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: of a court every twelve hundred miles. High school math, 89 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: not that I'm all that smart, is going to tell 90 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: me that that's uh, that's a court of oil in 91 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: thirty miles. So you're you're you're doing a court of 92 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: oil in three thousand miles, so you kind of meet 93 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: that demand. And what they're doing is Subaru has extended 94 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: the warranty on these vehicles eight years, hundred thousand miles. 95 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: They've they've increased the coverage. So I would tell you 96 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: to get your hands on that. And I just want 97 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: sure the bulletin number is easy. It's O two dash 98 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: one seven dash fourteen R. And there might be later releases. 99 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: The last revision I remember reading was August of all right, 100 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: and you know, be be prepared, all right, you know, 101 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, Jeff, be prepared to be disappointed because my 102 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: experience from the people I've spoken with that they go 103 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: through this procedure with Subaru and they have the repair 104 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: done and they still have a vehicle that has oil consumption. 105 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not convinced that they're able to 106 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: fix it. I'm not. I'm not convinced yet. I haven't 107 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: heard enough positive. I still hear more negative than positive 108 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: about the oil consumption problem. And I agree with you. 109 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Oil consumption of court and three thousand miles is just 110 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: too much. I just and I see worse than that. 111 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: I've seen some of these cars really chew up oil 112 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: because they have ring issues. So, UM, I guess my 113 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: next question is if I keep the oil up and 114 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: I am I gonna be okay with a car? Should 115 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: I be? Well, let's let's it's a fair question. So 116 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: the car burns oil. If this was nineteen sixty three 117 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: and there was oil burning out the tailpipe, it's not 118 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: hurting anything but the environment. But it's not. So this 119 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: is this is model year, this is year twenty nineteen, 120 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: model year, all right, And new cars have catalytic converters 121 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: and oxygen sensors are rare fuel sensors in them, so 122 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: that oil going out the exhaust is now contaminating sensors 123 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: that are in the exhaust system for emission controls, as 124 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: well as coding the catalytic converter at at at some point, 125 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, catalytic converters get insulated enough, they're kind of 126 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: like going to see your relatives for the holidays. You're insulated, 127 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: so you're immune to anything. They say. Well, the catalytic 128 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: converter gets insulated, it's going to be immune from any 129 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: oxygen storage capability and it's not gonna function right, and 130 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: pretty soon you're gonna set a fault code for cat 131 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: inefficiency and then you've got to deal with that whole drama, 132 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: all right. So otherwise, I'm very satisfied with the vehicle. 133 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, I gets like gallon on on an easy 134 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: highway type trip. Yeah, it's just yeah, yeah, it's it's 135 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: just a small flow and that they don't have a 136 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: good engine in it. Um, you know, it's it's and 137 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: I get it right. It's yes, small small problem. It's 138 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: kind of like it needs open heart surgery. But other 139 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: than that, it runs great. Um, you know what a 140 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 1: wonderful car. Uh, you know, it's um and the headlights 141 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: probably work good, and the tail lights work good, and 142 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: the doors open and closing, all the locks function. Hey, 143 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled. You know it's um uh you know, yeah, 144 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: I know it's it's and I I've got to tell you, 145 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: I still think, you know, I still believe that the 146 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: majority of engine issues today come about from the lack 147 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: of oil changes. I'm sorry, I just you know, we've 148 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: we've we've spent all this time and effort and money 149 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: and campaigning and and and media releases to talk about 150 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: extending the length of an oil change interval, and we 151 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: don't seem to be talking about the fact that better 152 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: than probably five or six car companies, off the top 153 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: of my head I can think of, have oil consumption 154 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: issues all with extended oil drain intervals. And they're all 155 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: coming back to the rings are getting gummy and varnished up, 156 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: and that's what's creating the consumption. You know. It's the 157 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: I p play for five thousands and I actually have 158 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: them the last time. Please put right now? Is that conventional? 159 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Is that conventional or something? It's okay, um, And so 160 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: it's a little more expensive, but I still think it's 161 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: cheap insurance. You know, uh, well, you I do probably 162 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand a year. So you bought this car used right, Yeah, 163 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: so you don't seeing the problem is you don't know 164 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: what the what the life was like on it for 165 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: the first sixty thousand months. You know, cars are like kids. 166 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: I say it all the time. Cars are like kids. 167 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: How they're raised and how they're brought up. By the 168 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: time they hit their teenage years, you know which kid 169 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: is gonna make it and which kid is gonna, you know, 170 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: end up on a scene of Blue bloods um you know, 171 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: with with with Frank Reagan company chasing them down and 172 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: then uh, you know, cars are like kids and that 173 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: when they're young, they'll take a little bit of abut 174 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: how they withstand that abuse when they're older remains to 175 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: be seen. And it's the value of the car company 176 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: and the Super It doesn't seem to be all they're 177 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: cracked up to be in some senses of the word. 178 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: They've got their they've got their issues as well as 179 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: other companies. You know, Listen, it's not just Super Toyota's 180 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: got problems, Honda's got problems, Hondai, Kia, um They've all 181 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: got engine issues. And I don't understand GM chevrolets have 182 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: got some issues with timing chains thirteen fourteen, fifteen sixties equinoxes, uh, 183 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, and all the like the four cylinder overhead 184 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: cam motors. And I don't understand what what I don't 185 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: understand is how we went from being a country that 186 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: could make an engine last you know, twent thousand miles 187 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: to the junk we're making today. And you know, it's 188 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: even though some of these car companies aren't here in 189 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: the States, Honday, Kia, Toyota obviously, but still they're selling 190 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: it here, their marketing here, and we allow it. And 191 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: that's the problem. Um, that's that's lowering our standards. So Jeff, 192 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: good luck to you. In any more information, you know 193 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: where to find me and I'll do alec for you. 194 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir, good luck to you. Um, yeah, 195 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: sad state of affairs. You just you know, it's it's 196 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: we're we're just being sold junk sometimes I think it's 197 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: and we accept it. And that's the bad part. Eight 198 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: five five five zero nine zero zero running the end 199 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor. Coming back right after this for 200 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: the best in car advice, give Ron a call eight 201 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: by five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Now 202 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: back to Ron. Hey, let's get over to Christopher in 203 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: Illinois for Ford Excursion. Christopher. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 204 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: How can I help hi? Ron? Thanks for having me 205 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: on the show. Thank you, sir, You're welcome. Um. The 206 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: reason I was calling today is I've got a two 207 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: thousand four Ford Excursion. Um. It's actually the third Excursion 208 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: and I've owned, so I'm somewhat familiar with how they 209 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: are supposed to drive. Um. How about this one about 210 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: a year ago? It came from out west and when 211 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: I when I got it, UM, I noticed that it 212 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: had it had very hard steering. Uh, I didn't want 213 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: to return to center and you let go of the wheel, 214 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: it wandered and darted real bad. Um. The reason I 215 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: bought this vehicle was it was first age. It was 216 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: very low mileage. It had about sixty eight thousand miles 217 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: on it. I think when I bought it, and I 218 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: think it must have said a lot. Um. So the 219 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: first thing I did was I thought maybe the ball joints. 220 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: Since I jacked up there, you couldn't hardly move the 221 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: wheels with weight off of them. So I had had 222 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: somebody put ball joints in it. UM, and I had 223 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: then also put the dual steering stabilizers on it because 224 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: I thought maybe that would help with the darting and wandering. 225 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: But UM, that didn't really help. So then I had 226 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: them put a track bar, a new tyrod, tyrod ins, hubs, 227 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: axle seals, steering gearbox. UM still didn't help. UM, and 228 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: then I had it. I had it a line again 229 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: and they said it was spot on. Because I was 230 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: thinking maybe it had some kind of tweak from being 231 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: in a wreck and I did a car fax that 232 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: hadn't been wrecked. UM took it, got a second opinion 233 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: from another mechanic and he said that the ball that 234 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: it still needed ball joint so they put more ball 235 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: joints in it and realigned. That still didn't help. He 236 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,599 Speaker 1: thought that I could try to change the castor adjustment 237 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: shim in the h in the front end. Let's see 238 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: if he could get it to return to center better. 239 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: I think it he changed like two degrees. That didn't 240 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: really help at all either. UM. I guess I was 241 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: just wanting to see if you had any ideas of 242 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: things I could try. Yeah. Well, and just so excursions, 243 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: just just and I just want to say this, just 244 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: so I said it. I don't think this is your problem, 245 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: but I just want to get you thinking of the 246 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: other end. Just make sure the back of the truck 247 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: is okay, track bars, um you know, Uh, coil springs, 248 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: nothing's broken. Uh you know, no bushings are pushed out 249 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: in the rear acle or suspension, just because we don't 250 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: know the history of the vehicle and the vehicle sat 251 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: a lot. I have seen a few cases where problems 252 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: in the rear end and how the rear end lines up, 253 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: although you would think they would pick that up in 254 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: a four wheel alignment. But I've learned in looking at 255 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: cars from other shops that I never assumed the last 256 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: mechanic knew what he was doing. Uh you know, I don't. 257 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't like to say that or think that. I 258 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: don't like to think badly of my industry, but um, 259 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: it does happen, and I've got to be a realist. 260 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: So just you know, anything askew in the rear when 261 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: we're looking at the front, all right, I want to know, 262 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: does the do the and you sort of to do 263 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: this on a drive on lift all right? Um? Putting 264 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: it up in the air doesn't really tell you a lot. 265 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: Pay particular attention to the front control arm bushings where 266 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: they meet the frame. Are they pushed out to stored it? 267 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: Is there any looseness there? If we were to put 268 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: a if we were on a drive on rack and 269 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: we were to put a ramjack under the end of 270 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: the control arm and then try to wiggle that control 271 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: arm or look at it for looseness, does anything jerk 272 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: and move. I've seen a few cases where those where 273 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: the the the the inner hinge where the control arm 274 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: actually pivots, gets good and rusted or um loose, and 275 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: it will cause all sorts of handling issues, not necessarily 276 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: wheel return, but definitely darting and sloppy steering. And you're 277 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: like you're always correcting the steering and things like that. 278 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: I've had that experience last thing on my head, um, 279 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: and I just want to mention the ball joint thing. 280 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of ball joints on the market. 281 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: And listen, Moog is not one of our sponsors any 282 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination. UM. I like mooke suspension. I 283 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: like move ball joints all right. I think they make 284 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: a great product. I I see a lot of ball 285 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: joints out there from a lot of other manufacturers. UM, 286 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: there's a couple of brands out there. I forget they're 287 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: the product name, but it's that light blue boot. UM. 288 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: It's a light blue boot made off shore. They're being 289 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: pushed into the marketplace. They're cheap, they're plentiful, and a 290 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: lot of people use them. I don't see them holding 291 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: up to save their life, and I I just see 292 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: a lot of issues with them, so I tend to 293 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: stay away from UM. So there's that where I want 294 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: somebody to look is does this vehicle have a steering 295 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: coupling which is just before the steering box? This is 296 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: a box vehicle, right, not a rack? Correct? Does this 297 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: Does this have the you joint coupling before the box? 298 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: Because I believe has that been checked? And if so, 299 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: how did they check it? Because what you're describing is 300 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: a is arrusted or tight you joint coupling steering coupling 301 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean to the te um and if I'm not mistaken, 302 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: this is gonna be the style forward coupling that was 303 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 1: two you joints laid in tandem over the top of 304 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: each other so that they can expand in and out 305 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: so that they can flex with the vehicle as it 306 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: travels down the road and the suspension as it goes 307 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: up and down. And if this vehicle sits a lot, 308 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: that joints gonna be tight. And you know, if if 309 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: you want to try a science experiment, it's a little sloppy. 310 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: But what you could do is it without even taking 311 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: it to a mechanic. Get a can of rustbuster, some 312 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: kind of rust penetrant. You gotta you got a local 313 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: Orailly Ooto parts. Okay, get out to get out to 314 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: rally Ooto parts. Go in there and get a can 315 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: of U P B Blaster. Do you ever hear every 316 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: use you ever use P B blaster? To use it 317 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: all the time, right, So get a can of p 318 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: B blaster. Um. You'll see that coupling. Um. It might 319 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: be covered under a plastic cover, but you'll see that 320 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: coupling if it has it. Get some shop riggs on 321 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: the ground or a drip pant and just spray that 322 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: joint coded a couple of times. Let it soak, let 323 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: it sit, come back to it a little bit later, 324 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, let it sit overnight, Just soak it. Let 325 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: that PB work its way in. Take the truck out 326 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: for a ride. If there's any change in the way 327 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: that vehicle operates, that coupling is binding, and um, you're 328 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: gonna find that. You know, changing it will fix it. 329 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: So I get a look at that. We can go 330 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: from there. I'm not on any of the Car Doctor. 331 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Welcome back, We're on any 332 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: of the car Doctor. You know. I still can't get 333 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: over this poll Eisenstein article from last month. I'm still 334 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: reading it about how some states are charging extra for 335 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: drivers who buy electric vehicles. Colorado and Wyoming fifty dollars 336 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: a year, California a hundred. In Illinois is trying to 337 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: introduce a flat fee of a thousand dollars for owners 338 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: of electric vehicles. But it sure pays to follow the 339 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: rules sometimes. Huh. Yeah, let's save the environment. And I'm 340 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: not saying I'm not for that, but just like you know, 341 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: you buy in, sometimes you buy into the program and 342 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: the program bites you back. I don't get it. Let's 343 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: get on over and talk to Let's go talk to 344 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: Sam and ILLINOI we haven't talked to Illinois in a while. Sam. 345 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, How can I help Ron, 346 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. You welcome, sir. Um. I 347 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: have a eleven toy to avalon and it's got sixty 348 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it and exactly at thirty nine miles 349 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: per hour speed. Uh, I get a shutter, I get 350 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: like a vibration and as soon as I go over 351 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: forty and it goes away. I've been reading a lot 352 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: of blogs on toy to forums, and everybody he's gonna 353 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: buy tires in it, but some and some people that 354 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: happened to him at sixty. But uh like these original 355 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: tires too. So um, I've never had any problem with 356 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: the tires. No, you know, original owner of this thing. 357 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: So I don't know where to go, what to look for? 358 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: How how how old are you? Sam? I am fifty eight. 359 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: Do you feel as good at fifty eight as you 360 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: did at eight? Well it changed the seven I started changing. 361 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: But I'm still so good, but so exercise and you 362 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: know I'm still good. I'm obtaining. Let me just say 363 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: the word maintenance. I think you're gonna put that in there. 364 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: You know, you're you you get where I'm going. You know, Listen, 365 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: I only started doing cross fit two years ago. It 366 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: still hasn't It still hasn't killed me, but they're trying. Um. 367 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: So you know, are these the original tires sixty? Yeah, 368 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: and you know how much tread has left on them? 369 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: And then they're still good? And then what can't you see? Um? 370 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: Do we have a belt issue? Do we have a 371 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: do we have an internal structure issue of the tire? 372 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: But neither here nor there has has anybody tried to diagnosis? 373 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Has anybody moved the tires around? Has anybody done? I 374 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: was I was going to do that myself, you know, 375 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: because everything everybody talks about his tires, and I didn't 376 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: know there was other um you know, the tie rods 377 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: or some bushing down there that you know, attached to 378 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: the that area. I didn't know if that had anything, 379 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, if that was man not for what you're describing, 380 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Um for what for what you're describing? You're talking about 381 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: a speed related Um yeah, uh, you know strates exactly 382 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: at that at that at that speed. The other thing, 383 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: the other thing somebody was talking about was doing a 384 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: balance on Ah. I don't know what it's called, but 385 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: it's they said, when the cards on the tire, I mean, 386 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: when it's when the tired around the car you balance 387 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: them that way, and I could get the term they use, 388 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: not don't take it off to go somewhere. Who's got 389 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: a tire balancer on? Well, I think you're talking about 390 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: in the old days, we used to call that dynamic 391 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: speed balancing. And I don't. I don't, yeah, right right, 392 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that you need to go to that level. Um. 393 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: I like, you know when I when I start talking 394 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: about tire and wheel service. I like the stuff from Hunter. 395 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: We use Hunter in the shop all day long. The 396 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: tire machine is great, the balancers are great, their liners 397 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: are great. They're very well thought out. Um they're an 398 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: American company that that means anything, but it's a you know, 399 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: American ingenuity. Their stuff works, so you know, and sometimes 400 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: I lean on my balancer. I've got the forget what 401 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: model I just bought it, I've got the Hunter model 402 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: one down from the road force machine. Because I tend 403 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: out to see to me, the road force is very 404 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: applicable on certain models of tires, low profile, the high 405 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: end beamers and things. We don't see a lot of those. 406 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: Um We've got the one model down from that. But 407 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: I tend to lean on my balance are quite a 408 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: bit it's um it's got laser weight placement. It's very precise, 409 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: and I can do a lot of things with weights 410 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: and where I want to put them. UM. So it's 411 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: it's important. Now keep in mind that a balance does 412 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: more than just balance to tire, you know. It's it's 413 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: also an opportunity for a shop to look and see 414 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: is the rim bent. I can balance a bent rim. 415 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: I could compensate for a bent rim, but I can 416 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: only compensate so much in terms of how you know, vibration, 417 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: and I can't compensate if the rim is still bent, 418 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: and if the rim has some peculiarity to it or 419 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: trait that at at thirty eight miles an hour, it's 420 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: gonna make the car vibrating. I'm not saying you do 421 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: or don't. I'm just saying, you know when I when 422 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: when we're balancing, I always teach my guys, hey we're balancing, 423 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: we're spinning the tire. We've got the tire off the are. 424 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Let's look around. Let's be nosy neighbors. Let's go look 425 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: at front end. Let's go look for something warn Let's 426 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: go look for rust stains coming out of a bolt socket. 427 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: That means it's water got in there and something's bound 428 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: up and not not moving like it's supposed to. Let's go, 429 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, let's use our eyes and ears. Let's do 430 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: what God gave us and use what God gave us. Um, 431 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: So balancing is a good place to go. Moving tires 432 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: is a good place to go. Front to back. If 433 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: we moved tires front to back and it changes the 434 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: shaik at all. Uh you know, I'm all for it. Um. 435 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: You know it's it's and and and keep in mind too. 436 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: And you know, we can tell you some stupid stories. 437 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: People have come to me with shakes and we'll go 438 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: to work on the car and the lug nuts are loose. 439 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: You know, one wheels got did this happened a month ago? 440 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: One wheels got loose lug nuts? And we're like, what happened? 441 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: When we went down to the tire store down the road, 442 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: and they did they did a rotation for us, and 443 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: we kept going back and they could never figure out 444 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: what was wrong with it. And literally we tightened the 445 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: lug nuts and solve the problem. Um, you know, So 446 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's out there. Um. You know, the longer 447 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: I work on cars, good ahead, I no, no, I 448 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: I've checked on the lunch. Uh, you know, I maintained 449 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: it pretty good, you know, the minimum stuff, not not 450 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: the major stuff. But I think I think I think 451 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: long story short, Yeah, I think long story short. You're 452 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: talking more about rotation balance um. When it's on the balance, sir? 453 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: How much hop do the tires have? How much UM? 454 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: I call? I think of it as concentricity of out 455 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: of line up and down. Blah blah blah blahah. You 456 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: know how much motion up and down does it have? UM? 457 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: Or the tires egged on the wheels? Have they taken aware? Uh? 458 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: You know, do we have a belt shift? You know, 459 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: there's there's there's five or six things that can go 460 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: wrong with tires as they age. And you know, um, 461 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: we've got to make it feel like it's tight at it. 462 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: It's you know, and and and you know. But before 463 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: we randomly replaced tires, let's start doing some diagnosa. Can 464 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: I can I throw another one at you? Sure? Real quick? 465 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: It's it's on oh three camer like heating does not work. 466 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: I changed the thermostat and the next thing I was 467 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: gonna do is there's a servo on the passenger side 468 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: which controls the door Um, it's called the servo door. 469 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: I can't remember the term, and I from that that 470 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: would be something some one on our car. No. Um, 471 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: so it's just he he's not a rating. Um, just 472 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: stay right words at um all right, simple thermostat has 473 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: been replaced. The dermostat wasn't bad either. Simple simple questions here, Um, 474 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: check engine light on? No, okay, good, So it's not 475 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: setting any sort of fault code for for a thermostat operation. 476 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: And you know, it's always a fair question sometimes the 477 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: check engine lights on. Nobody's things to the would have 478 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 1: anything to do with temperature. Um, So the vehicle comes 479 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: up to operating temperature temperature. Gage says, it's hot if 480 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: you were to lift the hood, and if you were 481 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: to lift the hood and grab the radiator hose, is 482 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: it uncomfortable to the touch? No, it's not. It's not 483 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: hot hot. Do you have a scan tool? I'm just 484 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: reading about this stuff and that's pointing to me in 485 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: that board the serbo door on the passengers side and 486 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: where I'm at now right, Well, I just want to 487 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: verify that the engine does have enough temperature. So what 488 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: I want to know is good ahead, I said, I 489 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: checked the water the cool level and everything ends up 490 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: to bar okay, but but hear me out, Sam, And 491 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not the actual wator. I'm just 492 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: saying that I'd like to just know. You know, there's 493 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: some basics here. If you're at the doctor, heart rate, 494 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: blood pressure, how good are you doing? You know that 495 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I just I just want to cover 496 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: the basics from you know, cool level. Surely they're a 497 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: thermostats there. What's engine temperature? Thermostat could be the best 498 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: thermostat and aware of Like I can give you a 499 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: half a dozen reasons why engine temperature doesn't come up 500 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: to speed UM. So I'd still like to know what 501 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: what does the computer see? Is it? Is it and 502 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be one? Is it just right on 503 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: the ragged edge of where it will set a fault 504 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: code but doesn't. So if that vehicle has been driven 505 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: for twenty minutes and it's sixty five degrees out, you 506 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: grab that upper radiator hose that should be sort of 507 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: uncomfortable warm to the touch, stats open, cool and circulating. 508 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: It should be um and if you have any doubts, 509 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: if it's warm enough, a scan tool O v D 510 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: two way would tell you, hey, it's up to temp. 511 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: This is what it's running at. Once we get past that, 512 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: grab the heater hoses inlet an outlet. One should be 513 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: hotter than the other and if they're not. If one's 514 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: hot and the other one is is cold, maybe we've 515 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: got a restriction at the core and the core needs 516 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: to be back flushed. Um, and then maybe we could 517 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: talk about water valves right being restricted not allowing proper flow. 518 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: So just having the number sometimes beforehand is is just 519 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: gives you a lot of information. Give me a call 520 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: back if you need more, Sam, I appreciate it. I'm 521 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: running Any in the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. 522 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back Running the Car Doctor, rolling along here this hour. 523 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us at zero nine zero zero. Don't 524 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: forget to get out of the Car Doctor Facebook page 525 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 1: Running Any in the Car Doctor. Check out what's going 526 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: on there. As so, we continue to try and fix 527 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: all of America's broken cars. Roman Lincoln Park, New Jersey. 528 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: How are you today, sir? How can I help? Okay? 529 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: How are you going? I got a two thousand one 530 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: accurate t L with a three point two V six 531 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: hundred ninety two thousand miles. Um it's it's it's basically 532 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: when I when I'm driving less, I'm on thirty miles forty, 533 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: and I accelerate, it kind of jerks the car to 534 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: the left, but it doesn't continue pulling to the left. 535 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 1: It seems like the alignments. Okay, it just it just 536 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: well actually jerked the steering wheel to the left. I 537 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: could feel it if I let it go, I could 538 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: actually see it. And then it goes straight again. And 539 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: then when I hit the brakes, it actually goes the 540 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: other way. I would focus on the I would focus 541 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: on the brake issue first. I replaced the brakes, and 542 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: the brakes are wearing beautiful, and the rotors and everything, 543 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: and it seems like the brakes are totally fine. It's 544 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: just because the car, because the car pulls to which way? 545 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: Does the car pull to the right. It only jerks, 546 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: just just for a second, as soon as you apply it, 547 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: and then it starts going straight when you say it jerks. 548 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: Does the steering wheel change position or does the tiny 549 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: bit It will just like kick a tiny bit to 550 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: the right or to the left. When I accelerate, it 551 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: kicks to the left. Is the steering rack tight? I don't. 552 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. It sounds like it sounds like the 553 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: steering mechanism is loose that could be tightened though. Well, 554 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: if it's a little sure, um, you know it's it's 555 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: you know what. What you're describing under acceleration to a 556 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: degree sounds like something we used to call torque steer. 557 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: Because front wheel drive vehicles have unequal length front drive axles, 558 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: it would favor one side over the other, and sometimes 559 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: it would put more load on an axle and the 560 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: axle would get internally gouged up and beaten up, and 561 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: it would create a massive torque steer issue. But in 562 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: this case, where I would go is I would pay 563 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: very careful attention to engine mounts transmount. If you power 564 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: break this car, does the front mount hold up? Okay? 565 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: Have you tried that? Have you looked at that? I 566 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: replaced the front mount, the big one in the front. 567 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: I replaced the one on the on the the main 568 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: one on the side. That were they bad? I did not? 569 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: They were bad? Well, that that didn't change the one 570 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: I didn't replaces the one in the back of the 571 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: end of the big one in the back. Well, is it, 572 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: you know? If it's not bad? I'm not saying you 573 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: have to. There's there's ways to I don't know how 574 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: to tell if it's bad. Well, if you if you 575 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: put the car in reverse and and power break it 576 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: and reverse, does it lift the back of the motor up? 577 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: Does it lift the back of the mount up? Alright? 578 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: You know it's trying and reverse, Try it and drive. 579 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: Does it look like the mounts are you know? Drive 580 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't do anything bad? And reverse? Try and reverse 581 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: and you might have to have somebody watch while you're 582 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: doing it. So that's that's that, UM. And then we 583 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: get into is do we have an issue with the rack? 584 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: Is the rack itself the steering rack itself shifting and 585 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: you know under acceleration jerking the wheel because the car 586 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: actually shifting or is it just at the steering wheel 587 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: is shifting from the application of of of load? UM? 588 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: So do those things and give me a call back. 589 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: And obviously just pay attention on what kind of shape 590 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: are the drive axles in? And um, even though the 591 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: brakes were wearing evenly, could you still have a caliper 592 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: that's binding? It might be an interesting car if you 593 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: have access is to a thermal imager. I know it's 594 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: a little high tech, but a thermal imager to look at. 595 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: Take it for a ride, bring it back real quick, 596 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: jump out, take a thermal image of or temperature heat 597 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: gun of the brake rotors? Are the equal? Are within 598 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: twenty degrees side to side? Is one side dragging more 599 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 1: than the other? Sometimes you'll see a lot doing it 600 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: that way. Um, anyway, I appreciate the call Romanzo zero. 601 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: The car doctor is coming back to wrap it up 602 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: right after this welcome back where I mean the car doctors. 603 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: You know, I want to just talk real quick about 604 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: some of the things that well, it goes on here 605 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: and goes on in the shop in terms of the 606 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: phone calls and the questions I answer. There's gotta be 607 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: a deductive line of reasoning. Just because the brakes pulled 608 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: to the right doesn't mean the faults in the brakes. 609 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: Just because the check engine light comes on and it's 610 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 1: got a fault in the non sensor circuit of an 611 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: internal module doesn't mean of faults in that module. Auto 612 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: repair is a layered issue today and it has been 613 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: for some time. It can't just be because the check 614 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: engine light says this, we automatically do that, you know, 615 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: following a float chart. The only time I know a 616 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: float chart works is if you're trying to walk from 617 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: one end of the block to the other. Left foot, 618 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: right foot, left foot, right foot, you know, And I 619 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: always think about would a float chart include look out 620 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: for the puddle, look out for the hole in the 621 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: in the in the road? Would it would it include 622 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: don't step here? The dog was just there? You know? 623 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: Does it give you the options? All? Right? And I 624 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: think a lot of that With auto repair, we had 625 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: more than a few calls this week. I had a 626 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: body shop called me this week and, um, Tim's under 627 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: the gun. He's trying to get a car out, and 628 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: he said, you know, my scan tool doesn't communicate with 629 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: the car, and I you know, listen, did you did you? 630 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: And I could tell he was not a panic, but 631 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: he was upset. It's it's quarter to five. He's gotta 632 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: get rid of the car. You know, did you check 633 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: the fuse for the for for port sixteen? Did you 634 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: check to see um, you know, did you try the 635 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: scan tool on another car? Did you go through some 636 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: basic diagnostics? And and he did and I think he 637 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: ended up solving it. And the point becomes that, you know, 638 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: even when you're under the gun. In the words of 639 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: the great lou Halts, you gotta think win what's important. Now, 640 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: that's what diagnosing cars is all about. I'm Rondanini in 641 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive to placeless