1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The How Do You Like Me Now? 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Navam Ama Wie addition, as the Bengals wrap up the 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: regular season and get ready for a home playoff game 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: as they face the Browns in Cleveland. Coming up, I'll 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: talk to one of the stars of Good Morning Football 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: on the NFL Network, Kyle Brandt, who recently said that 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals could be the next big thing in the NFL. 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: Dave Lapham joins me to discuss the decision to rest 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow this week, and lap shares his thoughts on 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: resting as many starters as possible. My one on one 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: player interview this week is with Isaiah Prince, who will 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: be the Bengals right tackle in the playoffs now that 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: Riley Reef is officially out for the rest of the year, 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: and did Our Know the Faux segment, we'll take an 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: in depth look at what's gone wrong for the Browns 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: with long time Cleveland sportswriter Tony Grossi. The Bengals Booth 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals, the free to play 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: next level fantasy football game downloaded now from the app 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Store and Google Play. And here's a quick reminder that 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: you can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: right to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing wherever 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since a 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: victory cigar. Former Boston Celtics coach Red Auerbach is credited 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: with starting the tradition. During the Celtics dynasty years when 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: they won nine out of ten championships, he would light 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: up a cigar on the bench. Imagine that once the 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: Celtics had a game locked up. I enjoyed taking a 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: few puffs of a victory cigar in front of touchdown 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: Jesus when you see one at Notre Dame this year. 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: And I loved seeing the footage of Joe Burrow and 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: his teammates enjoying victory cigars in the locker room last 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: week after wrapping up the AFC North. Joe famously enjoyed 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: one after eating LSU to the national championship. And here's 35 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: hoping that there's a Super Bowl victory cigar in Joey 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: franchise is future. Now let's get to my guests, beginning 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: with one of the hosts of what I consider to 38 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: be the best NFL studio show on TV. If you 39 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: want to be the richest person in the world, there 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: are two ways to pull it off. Number one, discover 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: the cure for baldness or number two bottle the chemistry 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: of the crew on Good Morning Football. And one of 43 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: the stars of the show joins us now, Kyle Brandt. Kyle, 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: it is great to have you on. What did the 45 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: Bengals show you with their win over the Chiefs last week? Dan, 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be on, And first of all, I 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: wish I could have provided that other means to be 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: in the richest man in the world to you. I'm sorry, 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: all due respect, I wish I could be there for you. 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: I really do. All I can do is the Good 51 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: Morning Football alleged chemistry that you hype. So thank you 52 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: and listen to join you right now. It's a credible time. 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: It's like going to the Santa Claus's house and Christmas Eve. 54 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: This is like as good as it gets right now. 55 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I remember when I was in I was 56 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: in my early twenties. It was a younger man in California, 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: and man, the Chiefs were all that. The Chiefs were 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: so cool, and they were dominating everybody and they were perfect. 59 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: And this Bengals wide receiver not a lot of people 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: knew yet, came out and said, I guarantee we're gonna 61 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs. Oh you're crazy, You're crazy. Sure enough, 62 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: Chad was right. They did beat the Chiefs that day. 63 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: And here we are in the wake of yet another 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: Bengals win over a really good, almost omnipotent seeming Chiefs team, 65 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: and it's absolutely pure electricity. My thoughts were for that 66 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: game where there was a time the Bengals had a 67 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: nice little run this year where they were the most 68 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: fun to watch team in the league or the most 69 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: exciting team in the league, which is fine, those are 70 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: cool titles to be helped for sure. They went from 71 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: that to being, oh, my gosh, never mind the watchability 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: or the excitement. They are actually a really, really good team. 73 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: I never mind watching them. I don't think you want 74 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: to play the Bengals. And we saw that happen right 75 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: in front of us. It was exhilarating, it was really cool. 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: I wrote down something you said earlier this week that 77 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: was similar to that, and here's the quote. There is 78 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: an intoxication with Cincinnati, there's a feeling of oh my gosh, 79 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: this is the next big thing. Describe why you think 80 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: the Bengals might be the next big thing. Well, I 81 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: could point out the obvious things. I could point out 82 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: the young talents and the quarterback and the way that 83 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: they improved this defense so much, and the players they added. 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you why because here I sit in 85 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: and I'm in you know, suburban New York, outside of Manhattan. 86 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: I have an eight year old son, My son, Calvin, 87 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: has spent almost all his life here in New York. 88 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: And you know, we just had Christmas and Calvin has 89 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: suddenly realized that there's some boys at school, maybe the 90 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: older boys, who wear jerseys to school, and he wants 91 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: to get some jerseys. So I said, all right, listen, 92 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: we got lots of options, son, this is an important choice. 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's a long commitment, just a reflection of 94 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: you and like who And he says, who should I get? 95 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Who should I get? So you know, we talked about, well, listen, 96 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with Tom Brady. But you're a 97 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: wildly different generation. There's a lot of you know, there's 98 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and there's my homes and there's there's Lamar 99 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: Jackson and everything. Well, I'm thrilled to tell you damn 100 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: that on Christmas Eve at our home, Santa Claus came 101 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: to the Brant House and he brought this night and 102 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: it was waiting at the bottom of the stairs on 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: Christmas morning for my eight year old. So you want 104 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: to talk about the next big thing? A kid born 105 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen living in outside in the suburbs of 106 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: New York wants a Bengals jersey with his pick from 107 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: the whole NFL. This is the one he wants. This 108 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: is the one Santa Claus brought. If that doesn't say 109 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: next big thing, I don't know what does. That is awesome. 110 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: Calvin is the sharpest dress kid at his school, There's 111 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: no question about it. We're talking to Kyle brand from 112 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Goodmore Football. You do a podcast Ten Questions with Kyle Brandt. 113 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: I am looking forward to the point where Joe Burrow 114 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: is your guest. I'm sure that's coming at some point 115 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: down the road. What has Joe Burrow done aside from 116 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: inspire your son for the Bengals franchise? Oh man so much. 117 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: And bear in mind that my son is wearing that 118 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: jersey at a school which is mostly New York Giants fans. 119 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: Those poor kids shown up in say Quan and Daniel 120 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: Jones jerseys. Calvin's walking on the hallway with his orange 121 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: tiger stripe thing. So he certainly inspired them. But you 122 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: know some of the comparisons now from Burrow, they're getting 123 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: to the stratosphere. I'm starting to see, you know, the 124 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: word Rogers, the word Brady thrown around. Here's what he's done. 125 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: We have a NonStop stream now and this golden age 126 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: of offense and quarterbacks of this is the next great one, 127 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: this is the next dist, this is the next dist 128 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: and there's all of them, and they are really some 129 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: great young talents. Burrows seems to have transcended them. And 130 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: I really mean that now. Listen. He hasn't accomplished the 131 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: playoff wins, doesn't done anything. But what he's done, in 132 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: my mind is he has come off in this way 133 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: of like, Wow, that guy's cool. Wow, that guy's gonna 134 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: be a future. It's not just all the throws down 135 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: fields to the receivers to useam or any of them. 136 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: The way this dude conducts himself after the game, after 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: the loss or after the win. His pulse does not bounce. 138 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: He can easily stunt on someone or brag, or he 139 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: can get angry afterwards. I have been so impressed with 140 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: the way he speaks to the media, the way he 141 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: talks about the media, even more so than the throw 142 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: for five hundred yards and first person's story. I'll tell 143 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: you one right here. This is when I knew Joe 144 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Burrow was gonna work, back in the early stages of 145 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: Quarantine and now how we're all used to people doing 146 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: shows at home and having the home camps like I'm 147 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: on now, It was a totally foreign concept. When we 148 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: first talked to Joe Burrow. He was coming out of 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: the draft, he was out of LSU. We thought he 150 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: wasn't even ever want to pick. He's supposed to come 151 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football that and we have him, you know, 152 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: let's say we have him at the ten thirties mark, 153 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: and he shows up at ten twenty nine, and he's ready, 154 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: and he's ready to talk about everything he wants to accomplish. We, 155 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: for the life of us, could not make this work. Technically, 156 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: the audio wouldn't connect, the visual was wrong. He could 157 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: hear us. We couldn't hear him, then vice versa. This 158 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: one on for what seemed like an hour, and Burrow 159 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: just sat there and just said, sure, I'll try this. 160 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: Does this work? Does this work? I can say it again, 161 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: testing one, two three for the million time. This is 162 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: the guy who's gonna be the number one picking the draft. 163 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: This is a national champion, celebrated. I know nine out 164 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: of ten other players would are like, ooh, sorry, closed 165 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: the laptop. Couldn't make it happen. He sat there in traffic. 166 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: He would still be sitting there if we asked him too. 167 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: He was unbelievably courteous, unbelievable hospitable even as a guest, 168 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: and he didn't get nervous and he didn't get flustered, 169 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: and we all laughed afterwards. Nate and Peter and K 170 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: and myself were like, well, this guy's gonna win the 171 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: AFC North. He sat there for an hour with us 172 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: having technical issues and didn't even bat an eye, and 173 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: it said something about him. And to this day I 174 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: will never forget it. And I think you see that 175 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: kinde of demeanor on the field. If you can handle that, 176 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: you can handle the Ravens Blitz. There's no question about it. 177 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: All right, Kyle, let's go back to this year's draft. 178 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: I was team Sewel. I thought the Bengals should have 179 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: fortified the offensive line. I'm happy to have been wrong. 180 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: You said going into the draft, you can either fix 181 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: the stairs or you can buy an eight inch TV. 182 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: They got the eight inch TV and Jamar Chase and 183 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: I really like an eight inch TV. What do you think? 184 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: It's beautiful, ultra high death. Oh my gosh, you can 185 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: play video games on it. If you ever watch The 186 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: Masters on it, you'll feel like you're there at Augusta. 187 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: And that was a true story, Dan, And I'm flatter 188 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: that you dug that up. Last spring, we my wife 189 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: and had decided we have a certain amount of money 190 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: and we can do sort of like a spring cleanup. 191 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: And these steps outside our front steps front door rather, 192 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: they're kind of stone, and to have them fixed you 193 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: need to hire a mason, which is very expensive you 194 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: to pay for them. It's reels, and it's a very 195 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: practical thing. I mean, it's gonna make your house better, safer, 196 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: it's gonna make you feel more comfortable. That was the 197 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: left tackle pick, and that was the practical pick. Of course, 198 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: protect a burrow but oh my gosh, if you take 199 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: that money and what if we just live with the steps? 200 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: So what if we just trucks that they'll be okay 201 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: and we spend it on that TV? And I'm like, 202 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know what I want the TV. My 203 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: head says the steps, but my heart and my eyes 204 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: say the TV. Can you imagine right now, listen, Penney 205 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: Soul may maybe may have become you know, Anthony Munos. 206 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: We don't know, We'll never know, but I know this, damn. 207 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the set at GMFB today and Chris Carter, 208 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: of all people who in the bur listen seat this week, 209 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: is talking about Jamar and he said, now, listen, I 210 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: was there in Minnesota when Randy was there. I saw 211 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: Randy have three catches for three touchdowns against the cot 212 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Dallas Cobos didn't draft him. I was there. He said, 213 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is better as a rookie than Randy Moss was. 214 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: We said, oh, hold on, we love jam Are we 215 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: all getting caught up a night? He's better than Moss was. 216 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: You were in the same huddle, Chris, he says, better, 217 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: more diverse, more fleshed out skill sets that Randy was Randy, 218 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: he had about four routes. He could run really fast. 219 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: Jamar can do everything. I'm saying this right now is 220 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: the guy who was there as a Hall of Famer 221 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: that Jamaar Chase as a rookie is better than Randy 222 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: Moss was as a rookie. I think the ad TV 223 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: was the right choice. I heard Chris Carter say that, 224 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: and I had the same reaction. I'm like, wow, If 225 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: that's coming from a guy who was Randy Moss's teammate 226 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: when he had seventeen touchdowns catches as a rookie, that's 227 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: a pretty strong statement. Let's assess the AFC as we 228 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: get set for postseason play. Who's the top team in 229 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: your opinion? And where did the Bengals stack up close? 230 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: They stack up close to the Chiefs win if they 231 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: beat Kansas City in a quote unquote shootout, you think 232 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: they can beat anybody. To answer your question, I think 233 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: right now, I actually think the best team is the Bills, 234 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: and they don't have the best record, and I don't 235 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: know if they have the best roster. If you file 236 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: the AFC really closely, everybody remember first the night against 237 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: New England and when Matt Jones threw three passes and 238 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: the Bills had this weird loss. Then they follow it 239 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: up going to Tampa and they're just getting routed in 240 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: the first half. I think they went to the locker room. 241 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: It was twenty four to three at a half, and 242 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: Brady was just destroying them. From that moment on, the 243 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: Bills have been unbelievable. The second half of that game, 244 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: Allan was the best player in the field, that they 245 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: were the best team. They almost they lost an overtime 246 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: come back, beat the Patriots soundly, and I just think, 247 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: like this Josh Allen thing has gone nuclear since then, 248 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: and listen, so have several other quarterbacks. But I've been 249 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: watching the Bills a lot. They've been up and downs, 250 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: they've been through I think right now they're the team 251 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to play. But I mean it is 252 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: raised within because you got these new rock stars and 253 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: the Bengals the Chiefs who are still the Chiefs, and 254 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: I think we all agree. I don't know, Dan, I 255 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: don't want to speak for you, but if the Bengals 256 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: did not punch in that touchdown, if they would have 257 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: played it conservatively at the end of that game, I 258 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: think the Chiefs are coming back to win. Mahomes is 259 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: still Mahomes. And it's funny about the AFC playoffs right now, 260 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: and I promise I'll finish with this is we can 261 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: have a whole talk about how good these teams are 262 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: and how good these quarterback are and not even mentioned 263 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: the team that's sitting on the one seed, which is 264 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: the Titans, who have the two thousand yard rusher coming back. 265 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: The AFC playoffs are gonna be wild. I still have 266 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: the Bills slightly number one, and I would say that 267 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: Bengals are right there in that two, three four. How 268 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: could they not be? All right? Last thing for Kyle 269 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: Brant Kay Adams was here a few weeks ago as 270 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: the ruler of the jungle. Are you jealous? And would 271 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: you like to be the ruler of the jungle? At 272 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: some point I wasn't jealous until I saw the I 273 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: guess it's a throne that she was sitting on. It 274 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: seemed to be some sort of Lord of the Rings 275 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: meets Game of Thrones meets the Cincinnati, Ohio type stone throne, 276 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: which looked really cool that I wish I could have 277 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: like in my basements. Listen the Unfortunately, I think that 278 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get in on the stock of 279 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals when it was really low. At this point, 280 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: you could have heads of state probably lining up to 281 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: be the Bengals ruler of the Jungle because they're that 282 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: good and that hot. I have never been to a 283 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals game. I have never done all the champions 284 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: of the Skyline, chili and all that. Of course I 285 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: would love to, I would absolutely love to, But like 286 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: I said, it's like a long line at the deli counter. Now, 287 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: like get a number. We will happily give you a 288 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: number and look forward to having you here in Cincinnati 289 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: eventually as the ruler of the Jungle, Kyle. This has 290 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: been a lot of fun. I appreciate your time, keep 291 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: up the awesome work, and I'm very happy for you 292 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: and everyone in any way involved with the Bengals organization. 293 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: This is a great league when there's ups and downs, 294 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: and right now the Bengals being up is the coolest 295 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: story in football right now, and I hope the story 296 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: continues for several more weeks for you guys. Man if 297 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: and when Kyle comes to town to be the ruler 298 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: of the Jungle. Here's hoping young Calvin comes with him 299 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: rocking that Joe Burrow Jersey, the Bengals quarterback, isn't going 300 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: to play this Sunday. Zach Taylor made that announcement on Wednesday. 301 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: So Cincinnati will be trying to win in Cleveland with 302 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: and An Allen at quarterback, and Joe Burrow is hardly 303 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: the only starter who is expected to miss the game. 304 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: I discussed that and more with my broadcast partner Dave 305 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: Lapham lad Zach Taylor announced that Joe Burrow is going 306 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: to sit out Sunday's game in Cleveland. I'm pretty sure 307 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: that other key players probably will sit out too, although 308 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: he did not give any other names. Is this a 309 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: no brainer in your opinion or a tough call? It's 310 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: pretty much a no brainer. I mean, I think they're 311 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: gonna treat it like a buye. I think very few 312 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: guys are gonna play. I think guys may have backup roles, 313 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: emergency roles, but I think he's going to try to 314 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: rest every single starter he possibly can. And you know, 315 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: I feel like they feel like they earned it, earned 316 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: the opportunity to do that and get everybody healthy and 317 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: everybody rested and ready to go against whoever that first 318 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: round opponent may be, and they I think they feel 319 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: good about, you know, going up there with the players 320 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: that are going to be playing, They'll be motivated and 321 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: going up there and trying to put forth a good 322 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: performance and show that they belong in the National Football 323 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: League and belong with the Cincinnati Bengals. And a big 324 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: part of what a coach's job is from a perspective 325 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: of job employment is developing young players. So see how 326 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: how well these young guys have developed, See if they 327 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: can make some plays, get some things done, and win 328 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: a football game. Joe Burrow has been on this incredible 329 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: roll over the last couple of games. And you asked 330 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: him the question on Wednesday. Annie hesitation to stop playing 331 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: when you're rolling the way that you're rolling. Yeah, you know. 332 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: I asked about the momentum part of it, and as 333 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: he worried at all about that, and he said, no, 334 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: that he feels like he'll get all the throws that 335 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: he needs to get in during the week of practice 336 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: and maybe have a competitive too minute drill type situation 337 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: to stay sharp. And Zach Taylor feels the same way 338 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: that he can get it, you know, every throw that 339 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: he needs to get every rept that he needs yet 340 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: with his players during the week of practice, and both 341 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: of them feel like they've practiced so well. He's practiced 342 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: so well, and they practice so well as a team. 343 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: That's the reason that they're on the role that they're on. 344 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: You know, it carries over into game day and they 345 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: feel like the only thing that will be missing is 346 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: that is that final game day deal where you've worked 347 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: hard all week to get ready for game day, but 348 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: now you won't actually play and be exposed to injury, 349 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: and all the preparation leading up to game day will 350 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: all be the same. So they feel like, um, you know, 351 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: they're getting the best of both worlds. As such, Joe 352 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: Burrow has been incredibly impressive really from day one, but 353 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: the last two weeks have been mind boggling. Nine hundred 354 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: and seventy one yards, eight touchdown passes, no interceptions. This 355 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: might be the best two game stretch that any quarterback 356 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: has ever had in NFL history. Is their anything about 357 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: this stretch where you say, you know, I knew the 358 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: guy was great, but I didn't know he could do that. 359 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: I'll tell you he the clinic that he and Jamar 360 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Chase put on, it was just amazing. I mean, Chase 361 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: goes for two sixty six and Joe goes for well 362 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: into the four hundreds again, but they were so on 363 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: the money in terms of Joe putting the ball exactly 364 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: where it had to be put and Jamar Chase fighting 365 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: for that football no matter what, was going to make 366 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: a play on it. The two of them played just 367 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: about a perfect game. I mean, it was incredible watched because, honestly, 368 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Jamar Chase had a couple of opportunities where 369 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: he got separation, but I'd say a good balance of 370 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: the eleven catches that he had were difficult. I mean, 371 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: he had to jockey for position, bump somebody, nudge, somebody, 372 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: uses physicality at the high point of the route, you know, 373 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: get a last minute body position advantage. And he's he's 374 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: capable of doing that. He's so darned strong, And particularly 375 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: when both te Higgins and Jamar Chase when they leave 376 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: the ground like a strong rebounder in the air at 377 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: the high point when he's rebounding a basketball is so strong. 378 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: That's what those guys are, you know, when they're high 379 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: point in the football. So all of that was just 380 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: unbelievable to watch. And well, yeah, Joe, I think Joe's 381 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: I felt like he was accurate, but the last two games, 382 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: it's it's been like ludicrously accurate, you know. I mean, 383 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: it's it's mind boggling to complete over seventy percent of 384 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: your passes in a sixteen game season, basically which he'll 385 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: he'll have he's not going to play against Cleveland. That's 386 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: that's incredible. Kenny Anderson holds a record seventy point five 387 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: five but it was in a nine game season, a 388 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: strike shortened season, so literally almost half the games. And 389 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: for Jodah complete the percentage that he's completed for the 390 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: yards that he's completed. And that's the thing too, is 391 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: his deep ball numbers are you know, so far off 392 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: the charts compared to everybody was concerned about that in 393 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: the early stages of his career. Now he's got thirteen 394 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: players of over forty yards, second best in the league, 395 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: fifty five over twenty yards, fourth best in the league. 396 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: That's an area where he's gone light years up a 397 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: ladder as well. It's incredible to watch. I'm glad you 398 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: brought up those numbers because the first time that Joe 399 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: talked to reporters this spring, coming back from his knee surgery, 400 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: he said one of his goals was to improve his 401 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: deep ball, and obviously he's done that. I've read comments 402 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: from unnamed scouts from other teams that have said, well, 403 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: the only negative with Burrow, as good as he is 404 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: that he's close to his ceiling. But if he picks 405 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: that out is the thing he wants to improve upon 406 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: and makes this quantum leap like he's made this year, 407 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: it makes me wonder what he's going to target in 408 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: the future as the thing that he wants to get 409 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: better on and how much better he'll get. And I'm 410 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: glad that scouts said that because he feeds off that stuff. 411 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: All you have to do is throw shade out there, 412 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: throw any doubt about Joe Burrow and his talents, and 413 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was the all time best at it, you know, 414 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: using it to just motivate him to like an eye 415 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: on a sphere in terms of you know, focus and 416 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: adrenaline and all that. And that's what Joe Burrow does. 417 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: You know, Joe Burrows like his biggest motivation is to 418 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: prove doubters wrong. And that's what a lot of great 419 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: players are all about and he fits that fits that 420 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: category for sure. I mean, I'm glad. I hope people 421 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: continue to doubt him. You know, he might be close 422 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: to a ceiling. If so, I'll take it. It's a 423 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: pretty damn good ceiling in my opinion. I'll take what 424 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: I saw the last couple of weeks all day, every day. 425 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: The last two weeks were the Sistine Chapel of ceilings. 426 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: He was that impressive. Let's turn to the offensive line. 427 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor said on Wednesday that Riley Reef is officially 428 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: out for the rest of the year. We know that 429 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Quentin Spain is going to at least miss this game. 430 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't know about his status for the first playoff game. 431 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: So right now, the starting offensive line includes a Chimadenagy, 432 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: Isaiah Prince, and Jackson Carmen for all intents and purposes, 433 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: based on their playing experience. That's three rookies that are 434 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: going to be starting on the offensive line for a 435 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: playoff team. Yeah, it's pretty incredible, you know. For this 436 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: game against Cleveland, would not shock me if Fred Johnson's 437 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: at one tackle, do not to Smith's at a guard, 438 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: Trey Hills at a guard, Jackson Carmen's at the other 439 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: guard and Isaiah Princess at the tackle position. But the 440 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: thing that you have to if you're particularly if you're 441 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: Jackson Carmen, you have to stay to yourself. This is 442 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: an opportunity. I mean, you know, you played over forty 443 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: snaps last week and you're gonna play a lot more 444 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: than that, hopefully this week, and now it's time to 445 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: show that you know you're ready. It should be a 446 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: clip of the coin. It should be you know, if 447 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: if if Jackson Carman doesn't start when he comes off 448 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: the bench, it's like no change in the level of 449 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: play whatsoever. He has to start showing people, particularly his 450 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: line coach Frank Pollock and the offensive coaches and Zach Taylor, 451 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: that he is playing at that level. Um and and 452 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: that's that's basically what Identedgy did to Tobate when he 453 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: got his opportunity. He showed himself and he earned earned 454 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: the spot. That that's what it's all about. So some 455 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: of these guys, I mean, they're in a situation where 456 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: all you can all you can ask for in the 457 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: National Football League is a chance to play, and they're 458 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna get it. They're gonna get it. In this 459 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: game against the Cleveland Browns at the tackle position, if, if, 460 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: if Clowney and Garrett both play, those young tackles can 461 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: step up and show coach Pollock I'm ready, I'm here, 462 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: I belong and that is exactly what you're hoping for 463 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: and you're looking for. So they are young, they are inexperienced, 464 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: and obviously that's the biggest question mark. It's going to 465 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: be interesting to see, not only in the draft, but 466 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: what kind of free agency offensive lineman will they be 467 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: able to sign. I think they're going to attract quality players. 468 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: I think Riley Reef was just the beginning of that 469 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: door being open. I mean Joe Burrow, the way he's playing, 470 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: the way the offense is built. If I'm an offensive 471 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: lineman and I'm out there, Cincinnati's gonna be on my list. 472 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: All the skilled people they have a you're kidding me. 473 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: If I feel like I'm an offensive lineman that can 474 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: go to that group and make a major difference and 475 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: improve the entire group up front, I'm thinking about that 476 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: big time. All right, So let's talk about Sunday's game 477 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. The Bengals clearly are going to have starters 478 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: sitting out most notably Joe Burrow. The Browns had a 479 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: highly disappointing season. Baker Mayfield is not going to play 480 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: in the game. He is opted to go ahead and 481 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: have surgery to that left shoulder that's given him so 482 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: much trouble. What do you expect to see on Sunday. 483 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: That's a great question, you know. I'm looking at last 484 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: week's flip card, and I mean I'm looking to see 485 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys getting reps that hadn't got many reps. 486 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: I think I think Ronelle Wren and Daniels could be inside, 487 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Wyatt ray Spence on the edge, Tyler Shelvin is going 488 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: to get some look play, Johnston KeAndre Jones, Colletro, Marcus Bailey. 489 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: I think it's going to have to play if it's 490 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: going to be very interesting. On the back end, Grennan Hargraves. 491 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: I think Trey Waynes, if he's able to, he needs snaps. 492 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: I mean, he may be the most veteran player with 493 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: the best reps A may that maybe getting snaps out 494 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: there because he needs them. I think if he's able 495 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: to go, he should go. Um Michael Thomas, Ricardo Allen, 496 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: will he get some snaps. It's gonna be very interesting. 497 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: Then on the offensive side of things, Trent Irwin is 498 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: obviously gonna get snaps. Drew sample Wilcox. They they brought 499 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: to Scotty Washington off COVID to the practice squad tight end, 500 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: he'll probably get What about PoCA? What if they bring 501 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: Pook up there and give him some snaps? Taylor, Um, 502 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, Brandon Allen obviously get snaps at quarterback. 503 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: Are they gonna sit Joe totally and have Jake Browning 504 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: up as a as a possibility? I mean, Trevion Williams 505 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: at the running back position, it's gonna be It's gonna 506 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: be an interesting day. And then Cleveland, I'm I'm looking 507 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: at at them, particularly their offensive line and Treder the 508 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: center has got a chronic knee problem. I mean, I 509 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they sent him again. How much 510 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: will Miles Garrett and Clowney play? How much will Denzel 511 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: Ward play? How much will these really good players play? 512 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry veteran player like him, Nick Chubb. They didn't 513 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: play Nick Chubb in the game against the Steelers as 514 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: much as I thought they would, so, I mean, what's 515 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: going on there. It is a total, big question mark 516 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: as to what's going to happen. I'm glad, I'm glad 517 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: we do have rosters and programs because you can't tell 518 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: a player without a program. For this one, it'll be 519 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: like the preseason opener. Yeah, you know, it will. It'll 520 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: be almost more like a you know, like a like 521 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: a preseason encounter where guys trying to make major impressions, 522 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, and and saving guys for the opener, which 523 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: is the opener of the playoffs. How much more on 524 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: Sunday's game. 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Now time for this week's one on 533 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: one player interview, as I visit with one of the 534 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: bengals least known starters, twenty four year old right tackle 535 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: Isaiah Prince. Isaiah, to me, you are one of the 536 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: unsung heroes on this team, taking over for the injured 537 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Riley Reef and right tackle. You had only played four 538 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: NFL games prior to this season. Can you describe what 539 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: it means to you to be the starting right tackle? 540 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: A lot of playoff team, right, it means a lot. 541 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: My main focus is, you know, doing what I've been doing, 542 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: Just how can I be of servants to the team 543 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: and playing them a part and a lot a team, 544 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: a lot of players, a lot of coaches, and the 545 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: how to do the best I can for the guys here. 546 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: It's your first year working with offensive line coach Frank Pollock. 547 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: What do you think of Frank and has he made 548 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: a difference for you? I think Frank definitely has made 549 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: a difference for me. I think that he is a 550 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: great coach, But I think great coaches also have to 551 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: be teachers, and I think Frank is a great teacher 552 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: in getting us to understand what he wants us to do. 553 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: And I think that that's also very important. And I 554 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for Frank. Somebody who's played 555 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: the game, and yeah, I think I've grown a lot 556 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: as a player with him as my coach. We're chatting 557 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: with Isaiah Prince. For those who don't know, you are 558 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: a former Buck Eye. You are a three year starter 559 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: at Ohio State and a team captain at OSU, and 560 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: you played in a lot of big games. Obviously, how 561 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: does that prepare you for what's at stake now? Yeah, 562 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: I definitely got a chance to an opportunity to play 563 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: in a lot of big games. Coming from the school 564 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: that I came from, the Ohio State, I'd say is 565 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: definitely giving me a bit of a confidence. You know 566 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: that thing is gonna be okay. You know, you just 567 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: keep chopping away, even in big games. You know, things happen, 568 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: They make plays, We make plays, But the main thing 569 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: is to remain the same. I think that's the main 570 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: thing I got coming from school. Playing in those big 571 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: games is up and down when you're playing against the 572 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: good teams. You are from the Washington DC area and 573 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: you are a member of Ohio States twenty fifteen recruiting class. 574 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: Another person in that class was a quarterback from Athens, 575 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: Ohio that people have heard of by the name of 576 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. What did you think of your fellow freshmen 577 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: at the time. I've always been good friends, but Joe, 578 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of my bro. We came in together 579 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: at Ohio State. We was on the same floor in 580 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: the dorm room. I remember moving into the dorms. Joe's 581 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: one of the first people I met. We've been good 582 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: friends ever since. Even when he transferred to LSU, I 583 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: stayed in contact. I always text them, and I think, honestly, 584 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: it's like so surreal that we're playing together right now, 585 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: is like it's crazy. I always thought Joe was a 586 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: great quarter gay. I always knew he was capable of 587 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: what he does now. I think we've seen it every 588 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: day in practice, movies, in school. Well, let's fast forward 589 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: to what he's done the last couple of weeks, because 590 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: you've been one of the guys protecting him during arguably 591 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: the best back to back performances that any quarterback has 592 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: ever had. Nine hundred and seventy one yards, eight touchdowns, 593 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: No picks describe what he is doing for this team 594 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: right now. I think Joe gives everybody a level of confidence. 595 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: I think when you see your quarterback take the field 596 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: and plays with that confidence, that swagger, that toughness. I 597 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: think I think that gets everybody fired up, and I 598 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: think that's just the type of person Joe is. He's 599 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: a great leader and I think we all love playing 600 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: with him. How do you like the watches he gave 601 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: his offensive lineman not that was a great gift, appreciated, Joe. 602 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: Have you been wearing it or is it more of 603 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: a trophy. I'll wore it one time to a game 604 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: right after he gave it to us, But pretty much 605 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm pretty gonna tuck away as a trophy. I appreciate it. 606 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: We are chatting with Isaiah Prince. Isaiah. Last year, you 607 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: were one of hundreds of NFL and college players who 608 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: chose to opt out during the pandemic. How did you 609 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: spend your season and what's it difficult for you not 610 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: to be around teammates and coaches. I think opting out 611 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: last year was probably one of the toughest times I 612 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: faced in my life so far. But during the time, 613 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: like like I know throughout life is to remain resilient. 614 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: So in that time being, I went back to school 615 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: and I finished my degree. I got my bachelor's and 616 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: I did some boxing. I worked out every day on 617 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: my football craft. I just did what I can to 618 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: stay in the right direction and just stay ready. You 619 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: have tremendous reach. You probably would be a good boxer 620 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: with your with your wingspan. Do you enjoy training that way? Yeah? 621 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: I do. It was it was different. It was my 622 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: first time doing it, different type of cardio, and I 623 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: think it got my hands right a little better for 624 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: the season, and I appreciate it. So Isaiah, You're originally 625 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: a drafted by Miami and then the Dolphins tried to 626 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: move you from the active roster to the practice squad 627 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: when you were a rookie and the Bengal swooped in 628 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: and claimed you off waivers. What was your reaction at 629 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: the time and how do you feel about how everything 630 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: has worked out? I would say definitely. These past two 631 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: years have probably been one of the toughest years in 632 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: my life, you know, being released from the Dolphins and 633 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, gett into the Bengals and opting out. But 634 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, I never imagined they would work out this way, 635 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, getting an opportunity to play again, But that 636 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: was the whole purpose of the Hall offseason and staying 637 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: resilient and keep working, you know, staying faithful. And I'm 638 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: honestly just so grateful that and thank God that everything 639 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: worked out. So you've started the last two games and 640 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: three out of the last five, the Bengals have wrapped 641 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: up the AFC North. You know, you've got at least 642 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: one home playoff game to look forward to. Describe the 643 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: confidence level of the team right now, coming off big 644 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: win over Kansas City. All right now, we're just focused 645 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: on taking it one week at a time and don't 646 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: just focus on them, on what we have coming up 647 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: this week, and you know, just doing what we have 648 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: to do to stay healthy, stay you know, and stay 649 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: ready for whatever. As I said at the beginning, I 650 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: think you've been one of the unsung heroes on the team. 651 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: Continued success. Appreciate your time today and best of luck 652 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,479 Speaker 1: against Cleveland. Thank you, man, I appreciate it. Finally time 653 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: for this week's Know the Faux segment. The Cleveland Browns 654 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: won a playoff game last year. This year they'll finish 655 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: with a losing record. There's seven and nine with one 656 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: game to go. Baker Mayfield, who ranks twenty seventh in 657 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: the league in passer rating, won't play on Sunday. Instead, 658 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: it will be veteran case Keenum at quarterback. Earlier this week, 659 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: Lap talked a long time Cleveland sportswriter Tony Grossie on 660 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: the Bengals Game Plan Show. Obviously, Baker Mayfield had physical 661 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: ailments and issues all season. Aside from Baker Mayfield, what 662 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: do you think of the biggest reasons for the Cleveland 663 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: Browns not living up to the expectations in the hype. 664 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: First of all, that's a big aside there. I think 665 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: that was the biggest reason. Their offense was just totally 666 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: not up to par, and they had chances in five 667 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: different games to win games with the ball in their 668 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: hands at the end, and they came up short all five. 669 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: Any one of those, or maybe two would have would 670 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: have won the division or at least set up a 671 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: big eighteenth seventeenth game against Cincinnati. The game in Cincinnati 672 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: was probably the only game all year that the Browns 673 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: played complementary football. They had a great game defensively and 674 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: a very good game offensively, and that was it. I mean, 675 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: they had a handful of good offensive games, a lot 676 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: of good defensive games. That Cincinnati Bengals game, uh, was 677 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: the only game they put it all together, and we 678 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: expected that they expected that to happen a lot more 679 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: than one game. So in a broad scope, I think 680 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: that that was the biggest problem. But again the offense 681 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: um and it was primarily the quarterback. You know, he 682 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: had ball in his hands and chances to win five 683 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: different games. That is amazing. I mean, you look at 684 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: the uh three game losing streak that the that the 685 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: Browns are currently in, two point lost to Las Vegas, 686 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: two point lost to Green Bay at Green Bay, and uh, 687 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: Baker obviously is seriously injured. When when When do you 688 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: think they'll schedule the surgery Tony, And what's the prognosis 689 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: and what do you think the future holds between Baker 690 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: Mayfield and Cleveland Browns. Yeah, um, probably they're They're planning 691 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. This is a torn labor in 692 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: his left shoulder, which you know what he played through. 693 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: He first suffered it in week two and then reinjured 694 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: it in Week six and only missed one game that 695 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: was on a short week, a Thursday night. Geen. It's 696 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be a four month rehap which takes him 697 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: in the April. By then, tho, the Browns have to 698 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 1: make a decision. You know, the transaction season begins in March, 699 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: and if they're going to pursue or at least look 700 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 1: into upgrading the quarterback position, you know Baker will still 701 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: be rehapping at that time. He is under contract in 702 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: his fiftyear option in twenty twenty two for eighteen point 703 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: eight million. They never delivered an offer for a extension. 704 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: I know the Baker mayfield side in the middle of 705 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: the summer expected it to happen after last year, and 706 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: it never happened. The Browns held off, and it looks 707 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: like they were smart in doing that because Baker really 708 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: regressed in the second year of the Sefanski offense. We 709 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 1: thought it would be the opposite. We thought he would 710 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: be much better in the second year as the first time, 711 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: the first time he returned to a completely the completely 712 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: same offense, same coaches, same teammates on offense, and the 713 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: production nos dive. Um. I think I think his future 714 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: is uncertain. That's the test. I could say it. I 715 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: could see them bringing them back, I could see them 716 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: trying to get better, but I don't, you know, they 717 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: have to make sure that they're they're getting better. I 718 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: don't think they're at a situation where they say we 719 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: gotta you know, we gotta move on regardless. It's not that, 720 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: but I do think they will investigate the options to 721 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: get better, and by that I mean a veteran quarterback 722 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: who can win now with the team they have Nick Chubb. 723 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: Everybody was kind of puzzled with the lack of rushing 724 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: attempts for Nick Chubb against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Is he 725 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: okay physically? And do you expect him to get a 726 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: lot of carries on Sunday against the Bengals. Yeah, we 727 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: were all puzzled at that too. So we're the Mannings. 728 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: I guess if you're watching the Manning cast in Pittsburgh, 729 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: and really you could extend that into the Green Bay 730 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: game the week before when they got to the fifty 731 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: yard line with a minute to go and then through 732 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: three straight passes, the last one was an interception in 733 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: a two point game. So he did suffer a rib 734 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: injury somewhere in that game in Pittsburgh and was rested 735 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: at a lot. He'll be on the injury report. They 736 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: didn't practice today and the coach said that, you know, 737 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: he wants to see him at practice tomorrow. The coach 738 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: did say that anybody who's able to play will play 739 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: in this game. They have a lot of players dinged 740 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: up and that includes chub Daream Hunt, maybe even Miles Garrett. 741 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: So there may be some guys sitting out, but it 742 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: won't be uh you know, just to to hang it up. 743 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: It will be because of injuries. So at this point, 744 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: if you're projecting to the draft, and I know it's 745 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: a it's a quick projection, But what do you think, Well, 746 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess before I get to that. What 747 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: about guys like JC Tretter, who battles that knee injury, 748 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, every single day basically of his football career. 749 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: Do you think guys like Trader and some guys that 750 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: you say are on the injury list, they probably won't play. 751 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: They won't try to extend and take a risk on 752 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: damaging these guys anymore. Yeah, Trader is such a warrior, 753 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: you know that, Dave. I think he'll play. He's always 754 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: on the injury report, but he always shows up. Yeah, 755 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: he had five four years of consecutive snaps um snapped 756 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,439 Speaker 1: street by COVID not because of his need, so he'll 757 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: I would think he would play. Uh, you know, the 758 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 1: guys I mentioned I think are very questionable in my mind, 759 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: and also a guy like Troy Hill. They're nickelback guys 760 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: who are on the have been on the injury report 761 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 1: for several weeks. Um, and that includes Garrett. Um, we'll 762 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: see he might want to He's just he's just, you know, 763 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: a sack fiend. He wants to collect as many sacks 764 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: as possible, so he might he might decide to play. Yeah, 765 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: and now that watst watch twenty one and a half, 766 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: I guess he wants to try to close that uh, 767 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: close that gap a little bit. Good luck, I mean, yeah, 768 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: good luck is right. Um. What about the draft? I mean, 769 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: where do you think the priorities are for the Cleveland 770 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: Browns in free agency and the draft? Where do you 771 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: think they need to address first and foremost? Well, they 772 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: don't have anything resembling any of the Bengals receivers, so 773 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: I think receiver is going to be a high priority, 774 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: and I do think they want to find one in 775 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: the draft, not in free agency. They'll be sitting somewhere 776 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: in the middle, maybe you know, in the low teams. 777 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: In the draft. I don't know they could even get 778 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: into the top ten if things work up that way. 779 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: So that's right in good position to take one of 780 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: the best receivers as two kids from Ohio State they're 781 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: very familiar with, so I was I was the receiver 782 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: first in the draft. They have some contract situations that 783 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: they're going to have to sort out, and two of 784 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: their defensive ends were signed to one year contracts, Jadevian 785 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: Clowney and Tech McKinley, who's out with an achilles ruptures, 786 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: so he's not going to be back. But I don't 787 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: know what they'll do with Clowney. I do think they 788 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: want him back, but Clowney might, you know, seek the 789 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,959 Speaker 1: highest deal and eventually they have to groom a young 790 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: defensive end pass rushers. So I think that's another position 791 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: right up there in the priority list. I look at 792 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: this Cleveland Brown's defense and it's a good group. I mean, 793 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: there's talent on that defensive football team. And then I 794 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: look at the fourth quarter and they gave up one 795 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four points on the season, by far, 796 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: their worst quarter of points scored against them. Why do 797 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: you think what happened in the fourth quarter of this 798 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: defensive football team? So many times this season do you think. Yeah, 799 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: And at the same time, they scored the fewest points 800 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, so that was some of it. 801 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: Was the offense just given the ball right back, that 802 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 1: was some of it. And a lot of those points 803 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: I believe it was in the first half of the season. Yeah, 804 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: This defense had like seven new star eight new starters 805 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: to begin the year. It took a while, but by 806 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: the time they got to Cincinnati, they were playing really 807 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: well and there was There was only one hiccup after 808 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: that game, and that was against New England where they 809 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: gave up a lot of points. But other than that, 810 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: the last eight or nine games they played, their point 811 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: totals were down considerably, third down conversions and everything. I'd 812 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: say most of that fourth quarter stuff happened when they 813 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: were still trying to mash and they were they were 814 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,479 Speaker 1: a little discombobulated, but they got it together and they'll 815 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: go into next season thinking that now the strength of 816 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: the team. Sunday's game starts at one o'clock, and since 817 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: the Bengals are expected to rest Joe Burrow and many starters, 818 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: Cleveland is currently a six point favorite. That's going to 819 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: do it for this episode of the Bengals Booth podcast 820 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 1: brought to you by Ultimate Bengals. 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