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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. Mark VanderMeer and

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you, and twenty four hours from now,

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Speaker 1: we will do our Texans schedule pregame show because the

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Speaker 1: schedule comes out seven o'clock Central Wednesday night, so we'll

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Speaker 1: be on six to seven Live with all breaking news

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Speaker 1: because some stuff will leak out by then.

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Speaker 2: Some will be incorrect, some will be correct.

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Speaker 1: We will weigh and assess what could be right, what

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Speaker 1: will definitely be wrong, all of that. For instance, we

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Speaker 1: did our mock schedule last Thursday night, Johnny, and we're

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Speaker 1: already wrong about something. Well, yeah, we mocked the Texans

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Speaker 1: to play the Chargers in Brazil on opening weekend, but

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Speaker 1: that's going to be the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: So well, that was kind of wishful thinking by me.

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Speaker 3: That was me putting the techna those wish will think

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Speaker 3: in like, hey, let's go to Brazil, let's play in

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Speaker 3: a place we've never played before, and hip off the

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Speaker 3: international game Bandit's that's right, but it's okay. I'm not disappointed,

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Speaker 3: to be honest, that we're not playing an international game.

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Speaker 3: It'd be nice to go over there and play a game,

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Speaker 3: but it's a pretty grueling opportunity, if you want to

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Speaker 3: call it that exactly.

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Speaker 1: So now you're gonna play the Chargers in LA and

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Speaker 1: the Rams in LA, and we'll see where all that goes. Also,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Alexander on the show tonight will go and predict

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Speaker 1: how many primetime games the Texans have or will have,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna go on the record with it. I

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Speaker 1: know we've probably thrown out some predictions before, but we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go on the record. I already know that your

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Speaker 1: prediction is going to be a bit of a surprise,

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Speaker 1: So stay tuned for segment number two with Jonathan Alexander

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Speaker 1: from the Houston Chronicle on that. Among other things, we'll

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Speaker 1: go over some rookie camp stuff, and I do have

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Speaker 1: some thoughts on scheduled information that's come out already, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: but I want to start here and go with me,

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Speaker 1: if you will, kind of journey into the past and

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Speaker 1: relate it to the present, because every once in a while,

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Speaker 1: and I saw him this morning, see j Stroud. I

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Speaker 1: I just had that feeling of.

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Speaker 2: So good to have a quarterback. It's just it's so good.

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Speaker 1: We've been in situations in this franchise's history where there

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Speaker 1: was not a clear cut starting quarterback in the building,

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Speaker 1: and you hope for one guy or another guy, and

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Speaker 1: you hope somebody would emerge and maybe this guy could

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Speaker 1: be the one and all of that other stuff, and

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't happen, and sometimes it happened for a week

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Speaker 1: was bad. But now we have CJ. Stratton, it's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: But with the retirement of Derek Carr, it just got

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Speaker 1: me thinking about all the struggles because Derek Carr is

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Speaker 1: kind of a cousin of this franchise, I feel, because

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Speaker 1: of David's situation here as at first starting quarterback of

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans SU and he being David's brother, and

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Speaker 1: the Cars being well involved in Houston, and Derek comingto

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Speaker 1: practice all the time, and one time being the starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the Clements Rangers in Fort ben County, YEP

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Speaker 1: and starting for a year for them. So all of

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Speaker 1: that plays into this that Derek retires at age thirty four.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the video they put out that his

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Speaker 1: you see this one yet? No?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I heard about it playing ball with his kids and

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Speaker 1: his wife saying I'll take you out to lunch, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got enough money to pay for lunch. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Very few lunches, I think. But that was class of

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. And you know, I looked for the interview

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Speaker 1: that I did with Derek at the Combine and I

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Speaker 1: And I even went back to the archive of Texans

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Speaker 1: and I can't find that particular show. I'll look again,

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Speaker 1: But somehow I caught up with Derek Carr for five

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Speaker 3: So when I went, that was my first Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 3: It was in between my former radio station and before

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Speaker 2: In person at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I just thought it was I thought it was really interesting.

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Speaker 3: What I didn't remember was how well he had done.

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Speaker 3: Jimmie Ward was at that Senior Bowl, but I don't

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Speaker 3: But that's why I remember about that, just seeing him

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Speaker 3: I think what people forget is in the twenty sixteen season,

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Speaker 3: and there's green lasers and there's all kinds of stuff happening,

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Speaker 3: We run out of gas. Derek throws a couple of touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: And he was as good that year as I can

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Speaker 3: remember a lot of good quarterbacks. Being late in that

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Speaker 3: game was phenomenal in Mexico City.

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Speaker 2: He was clutch, he was superismatic.

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Speaker 1: He looked like he was taking a gigettic step forward.

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Speaker 2: It was year three for him. They were on their

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Speaker 3: Then they changed their offensive coordinator after that year and

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Speaker 3: if Carr is healthy, hey, how tough a playoff game

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Speaker 3: is that for us? Also, we were coming off a

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Speaker 2: So if Derek Carr's.

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Speaker 3: Playing that game, that is a super super stressful, tough game,

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Speaker 3: even though it's at home, especially what he was able

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Speaker 3: I think the novel on Derek Carr becomes very different.

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Speaker 2: Sure, think it's very different.

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Speaker 1: If he wins here they go to New England, I think,

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Speaker 1: because they would go to News remaining seed, top seed.

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Speaker 2: Even if they don't win.

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Speaker 3: Even though they don't win, they're gonna go toe to

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Speaker 2: We didn't cover a guy. I didn't want to see him.

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Speaker 2: I did not want to see it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to see them in the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to see Matt McGloin in the game.

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Speaker 1: But if Carr wins here and goes to New England,

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Speaker 1: who knows what happens. Maybe history is rewritten about his career.

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Speaker 1: He's the all time leading passer in Raider's history. And

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Speaker 1: as they say, it's a weird stat because it's the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: It's the Super Bowl Raiders, Jim Plunk and Kenny Stadler.

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Speaker 1: Even Mark Wilson was a really good quarterback. Rich Gannon

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Speaker 1: brought them to a super Bowl. He was a League

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Speaker 1: in Raider history. But he is, and that's how it

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Speaker 1: all works out. A great dude. I can't call it

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Speaker 1: a great career, but a productive career regular season wise,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Statistically obviously, all the coaching changes and Raider

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Speaker 1: Had he gone to another franchise, might have been a

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Speaker 1: totally different situation, but it is what it is. But

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Speaker 1: I'd look at that twenty fourteen draft, and you know,

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Speaker 1: related to I'm so glad we have a quarterback today.

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Speaker 1: If you could draft all over again. I always said

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Speaker 2: It's just weird. Ye.

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Speaker 1: People look at it now like, oh, so what, But

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Speaker 1: believe me, in twenty fourteen, there was a different Favid

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Speaker 1: It was Bill O'Brien's first season, and I just thought

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Speaker 1: they should have taken Garoppolo in the top of the

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Speaker 1: second round. Take Garoppolo. The world would have understood if

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Speaker 1: It's not a first round quarterback. First round quarterback bust

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Speaker 1: has all these bad connotations about your organization attached to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could talk yourself into that. And Garoppolo is

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Speaker 2: What do you expect out of CJ. Stroud in year three?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I said this immediately after this season, and

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Speaker 3: But teams have thrown the kitchen sink at CJ. He's

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Speaker 2: My thought right after the season was it is now.

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Speaker 3: The offense is not a Patriots offense, it's not a

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Speaker 3: J Stroud. What CJ says goes. He takes full and

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Speaker 3: We're going to another play, like we're changing the play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's not the young pup anymore. That's exactly.

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Speaker 1: He's still twenty three years He turns twenty four in October.

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Speaker 3: up on the board. The quick game was completely absent,

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Speaker 3: So that's got to come back. So just thinking on

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Speaker 3: a field, that's one. The other one is CJ's as

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Speaker 3: good a deep ball thrower as there is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen it, but how many deep balls did

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Speaker 2: we throw after Nico got hurt against Buffalo?

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Speaker 1: That was so painful because I see that highlight now

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Speaker 1: we've run it back a few times, yep, and it

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Speaker 1: just hurts to know that he got hurt throw on

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Speaker 1: that play, I know, and then you know, waved as

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Speaker 1: he was leaving the building. Now, obviously he came back,

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Speaker 1: but the deep game was never the same, never the

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Speaker 1: same because never what did we say last year, two

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Speaker 1: of the big three have to be healthy at all times,

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Speaker 1: and it ended up that you only had one of

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Speaker 1: them at the end, and it was Nico, which was

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Speaker 1: great to have Nico, But you need more. Every team

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Speaker 1: needs more. Every team needs a number two, number three.

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Speaker 1: Right now, they've got options galore. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: it's gonna work out with Kirk. I think Kirk will

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Speaker 1: be really good for this team. But I think Noel

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Speaker 1: gets on the field. You know, Higgins is going to

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Speaker 1: find his way on the field.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about it with Jonathan. The receiving group,

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Speaker 1: how is that going to shape up? Because look, maybe

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Speaker 1: injuries do make the decision for you, but I hate

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Speaker 1: to see injuries. I just want to see this competition

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Speaker 1: in camp, Johnny. The camp battles are gonna be as

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Speaker 1: good as they've been in a long time.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe.

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Speaker 3: Particular offensively in particular, but even defensively, like linebacker, linebackers

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Speaker 3: could could look interior defensive line.

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Speaker 2: Holy cow.

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Speaker 3: I think we know who starts on the edge, but

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Speaker 3: behind them between Barnett and Darryl Taylor, Dylan Horton, Deny Gautry, like,

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Speaker 3: holy crap. But the thing is, and I've said this

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Speaker 3: to too many people throughout the years, when you think

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Speaker 3: you have enough depth, you need another piece when you

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Speaker 3: know you don't have enough depth, you need two or

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Speaker 3: three pieces.

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Speaker 2: So you know, just.

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Speaker 3: Going back to the CJ discussion, it's it's there were

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Speaker 3: some things like when I think back to his rookie year,

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Speaker 3: and this is also on CJ two in that even

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Speaker 3: if you've got a deep route, even if you've got

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Speaker 3: the deep over, you've got a dagger and you've got

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Speaker 3: that deep in uh tanko, maybe that's not always what

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Speaker 3: you need to be ready for. You know, take the

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Speaker 3: check down to relieve yourself of a hit. Let's take

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Speaker 3: let's take two hits. Let's take two hits in a

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Speaker 3: sack off of CJ every game the rest this year,

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Speaker 3: So okay, or for the twenty twenty five seasons.

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Speaker 1: What do the analytics say? Yeah, go on, So take

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Speaker 1: two hits off of him and one sack less.

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Speaker 2: Just start there. Yep.

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Speaker 3: That takes you from fifty two sacks to thirty five sacks. Right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: take two hits off of him for seventeen games. That's

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Speaker 3: thirty four times that he is not getting hit throwing

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Speaker 3: the football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know his toughness is not a detriment,

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Speaker 1: but he can take the punishment. Oh yeah, big dude,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I was walking next to him in

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Speaker 1: the hallway.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, you forget what a big duty is.

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Speaker 1: He's thick, you know, and just he can take those

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Speaker 1: shots and take it.

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Speaker 3: You just think about and I know this is this

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Speaker 3: is hard, but if you really want to gauge on

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Speaker 3: what CJ goes through, stand ten feet away from a wall.

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Speaker 2: Go run into the wall, like with one of your shoulders.

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Speaker 2: Go run into the wall.

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Speaker 3: Take your word for it, and then go thirty seconds

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Speaker 3: later and try and throw football five yards.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point. That's what CJ. He's doing it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I remember Drew breesaying once I'll take a sack every

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Speaker 1: once in a while because I got to I have

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Speaker 1: to wait for certain things to develop that field. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to take that hit every once in

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Speaker 1: a while. But you're right, you want to reduce the impact,

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Speaker 1: play the quick game and bring everybody up. Go long,

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Speaker 1: get big plays. We all want to see it. Let's

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Speaker 1: go all right. Coming up on the show, Jonathan Alexander

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Speaker 1: from the Houston Chronicle, Let's check in on what he

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Speaker 1: saw rookie Mini camp and also his thoughts on the schedule.

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Speaker 1: Which is not out yet obviously a little over twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours from now. We'll talk about that and then

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Speaker 1: some here on Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio. Great to

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Speaker 1: have you on the program. Well, you're not really on

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Speaker 1: the program, you're listening to the program, but you're kind

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Speaker 1: of on the program because we're all Texans family here.

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Speaker 1: Mark vanderbre and John Harris with you and joining us

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Speaker 1: right now, big part of our Texans family. Jonathan Alexander

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Speaker 1: from the Houston Chronicle, JA, how's it going tonight?

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Speaker 5: It has gone well. I am ready for this schedule

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Speaker 5: to drop.

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Speaker 4: The NFL has really been drawn thing out, and I'm

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Speaker 4: ready to see where detections are planing.

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Speaker 1: It feels like now I should be very careful the

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Speaker 1: way I phrase this. Oh boy, I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: it feels like you're pregnant and it's you know, your

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Speaker 1: dude date is a certain date, but it's going an

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Speaker 1: extra week.

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Speaker 2: Like I would know what that felt like.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of women have gone through that, right,

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Speaker 1: Oh the babies do on the Fourteenth's another week and

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Speaker 1: they're like, get it out.

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Speaker 2: I was. I had that happen with my oldest, with

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Speaker 2: my son Jack.

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Speaker 3: We were going to induce labor, and they literally called

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Speaker 3: from the hospital and said, don't come in.

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Speaker 2: There aren't enough beds.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, And we had to wait another five days

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Speaker 3: and then they told us the next Tuesday, there aren't

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Speaker 3: there's not enough room, not enough room for you.

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Speaker 2: And Paige said, bleep you I'm coming. Yeah, this baby's

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Speaker 2: coming out of me today.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so the so the schedule needs to arrive

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Speaker 3: if you need to give it, sure, gonna make sure,

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Speaker 3: I say this right.

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Speaker 2: What was your reaction to no international games, Jonathan.

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Speaker 5: I think I wasn't super surprised.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you figured, you know, you know, there was

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Speaker 4: a story in the SBJ and Sports Business Journal that

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Speaker 4: said teams get to protect, you know, two home games,

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Speaker 4: and I figured the Colts and the Jaguars will probably

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Speaker 4: want to protect their home games against the Texans, being

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Speaker 4: that those are going to be important divisional games.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I thought the Chargers game had a good chance at

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Speaker 4: being Brazil, but when it was leaked, that kind of

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Speaker 4: ruled it out.

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Speaker 5: So it's been a while since the Technicals.

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Speaker 4: Have played in the international game, and you know, I

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Speaker 4: don't know when it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: I was a little bit surprised, a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit bummed out about because I was looking forward to

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Speaker 4: to cover in the international game.

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Speaker 3: See you that they may go it's common, it's just

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Speaker 3: not this year it's common. I got a feeling we're

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Speaker 3: gonna we're gonna take one down there for sure, which

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Speaker 3: was very interesting the last time we went hashtag Green Lazers. Jonathan,

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Speaker 3: what did you take out of Rookie Minute Camp? Get

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Speaker 3: a chance to see the rookies, the undrafted free agents.

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Speaker 3: I think there were maybe a couple of tryout guys

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Speaker 3: that were there as well, Mason Thart being one of them.

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Speaker 3: Tighten from Texas Tech. Your overall takeaways from it. I

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Speaker 3: know there were a lot of NFL teams had a

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Speaker 3: lot of videos about they were showing eleven eleven one

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Speaker 3: on once.

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Speaker 2: Things like that. Texas didn't have enough rookies to be

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Speaker 2: able to do those things.

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Speaker 3: But overall, your thoughts of just what you saw from

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Speaker 3: the rookie class when we convened last Friday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I try to reserve judgment on how

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Speaker 4: they play until I see them in training camp, but

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Speaker 4: just from the outset, you know, I thought Jalen Jaden

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Speaker 4: Higgins had great hands, just from some of the catches

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Speaker 4: I saw, and that was one of the things that

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Speaker 4: a lot of people talked about coming into the pre

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Speaker 4: draft process, that he was, you know, a great pass catcher.

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Speaker 4: He rarely dropped passes. Jalen Nowell really has good movement.

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Speaker 4: I could see him potentially being a factor in that

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Speaker 4: print return team. You know, he's very twitchy. Ariante Urseri

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Speaker 4: has a really great mindset. You know, he said he's

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Speaker 4: take pride in uh In and protecting his quarterback and

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Speaker 4: opening up lanes for his running backs.

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Speaker 5: And then I saw Weddy Marx and he was a

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Speaker 5: lot bigger.

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Speaker 4: Than I expected, really compact type player who can also

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Speaker 4: catch the ball out of the backfield. So a lot

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Speaker 4: of good things I saw from the rookies. But you know,

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Speaker 4: the true test will be OTAs and Trana Champ.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jonathan, I will not hold you to this prediction,

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Speaker 1: but come up with five receivers for me who make

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Speaker 1: the fifty three. And I know you did your fifty

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Speaker 1: three man roster recently and I don't have it in

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Speaker 1: front of me, So if you can recall that, or

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Speaker 1: if it's changed since rookie camp or some other bit

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Speaker 1: of information, has adjusted that.

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Speaker 2: You tell me only five, not six? All right, let's

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Speaker 2: go six. Go ahead, I'll give you the extra cap.

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Speaker 2: Your saft given him six. You gotta make it tough.

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Speaker 4: Take it really if it was today, okay, which I

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Speaker 4: definitely think it could change. I think you see obviously, Nico,

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Speaker 4: Christian Kirk, Jalen Noel, Jaden Higgins.

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Speaker 5: Those are your four automatic locks.

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Speaker 4: Now you look at who are the last two guys.

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Speaker 4: I think Justin Watson has a chance to make this team,

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Speaker 4: has a better chance right now, and I think the

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Speaker 4: last spot would probably go to Exavier Hudginson given what

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Speaker 4: he's able to do on special teams as well as

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Speaker 4: being a receiver who they really really admire.

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Speaker 5: Now, that could change come training camp.

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Speaker 4: I think John Metchi has enough talent to potentially beat

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Speaker 4: out Exavier Hutchinson or maybe even Justin Watson.

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Speaker 5: He played a little bit of.

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Speaker 4: Special teams late in the year, even made a big

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Speaker 4: play in that playoff game. But if I had that

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Speaker 4: to say the six right now, it's the four locks

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Speaker 4: and Exaber Hudginson and Justin Welson.

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Speaker 1: I like that this is gonna be one hell of

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Speaker 1: a competition. Barrios X Matchie Watson in a fight.

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Speaker 2: You know, Johnson, This is one of the things that

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Speaker 2: we talked about.

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Speaker 3: Mark and I we talk on there off there, so

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Speaker 3: I can't remember which one it was, but we talked about.

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Speaker 3: There was point I think last year where the Texans

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Speaker 3: kept Now people would say seven, but essentially it was

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Speaker 3: six plus one because they kept six receivers plus one,

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Speaker 3: the one being Steven Simms. And so they've done this

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Speaker 3: before where they've kept six plus the sevenybody wants to

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Speaker 3: say seventh, but it really was Sims was not gonna

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Speaker 3: get time a receiver, but he was a returner. Is

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Speaker 3: there a scenario where you could see that happening where

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Speaker 3: six receivers are kept plus Barrios in just a pure

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Speaker 3: returner form.

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Speaker 4: Don't see that for this specific reason because they have

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Speaker 4: Jalen Nowell, whose specialty is punt return.

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Speaker 5: If they had not drafted Jalen.

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Speaker 4: Nowell, which I wrote that wasn't initially in the plan

660
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Speaker 4: when they started the draft, then I could have seen

661
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Speaker 4: them keep seven receivers and had burials be primarily punt

662
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Speaker 4: return But I think Jalen Nowell's addition and his versatility

663
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Speaker 4: as a punt returner would more likely lend them to

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Speaker 4: keep six receivers and add that position somewhere else, and

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Speaker 4: probably on the defensive line.

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Speaker 2: What about offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Let's not go opening day or this week or however

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Speaker 1: we would put that. I want your thoughts on week ten.

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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen to this line if the season unfolds?

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Speaker 2: Who would say?

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Speaker 1: Everybody's healthy, but people rise to their potential. What do

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Speaker 1: you see happening along the line. How do you feel

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Speaker 1: about it?

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Speaker 4: Jonathan, Yeah, I think the line is one of the

675
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Speaker 4: more interesting questions we'll have going in a training camp.

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Speaker 4: By week ten, though, you know, I think you'll want

677
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Speaker 4: to have your best five out there, and I think

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Speaker 4: your top five right now includes definitely Titus Howard, probably

679
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Speaker 4: Cam Robinson, ariantae Ursery, Juice scrugs that right guard showed

680
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Speaker 4: me some things, and Jared Patterson at center. I could

681
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Speaker 4: see Ariante starting at right tackle, Cam Robinson at left tackle,

682
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Speaker 4: Titus at left guard, Juice at right guard, and Jared

683
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Speaker 4: Pattison at center.

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Speaker 5: That's gonna that would be my guess. By weight ten.

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Speaker 1: That puts Blake Fisher in a battle to try to

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Speaker 1: stay on the field as one of the starting five

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Speaker 1: if you will.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's and I see him being the primary swing tackle,

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Speaker 5: and I think they'll be okay if Blake Fisher ends

690
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Speaker 5: up being the primary swing tackle, if he can be

691
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Speaker 5: someone who is reliable in case the injury happens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Charlie Heck was that way.

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Speaker 3: Now, Charlie Heck was a fourth rounder, but I mean, man,

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Speaker 3: you think about all the times Charlie had to step

695
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Speaker 3: in it either of the tackle spots and did a

696
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Speaker 3: pretty good job. So you've got to be obviously capable

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Speaker 3: with that swing tackle spot. So yeah, it's that's gonna

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Speaker 3: be an interesting one, John that I can't remember when

699
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Speaker 3: we talked to you last, whether it's Tuesday or Thursday,

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Speaker 3: whether fully Fought a Cossi had been signed at that

701
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Speaker 3: particular point. So if I asked you, well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: ask you again, fully Fought Acosi coming back kind of

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Speaker 3: combining the twenty twenty three group with the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four group minus ma Leek Collins. Your thoughts about fully

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Speaker 3: coming back and what it means for this defense and

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Speaker 3: the defensive line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought this was a good move for them

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Speaker 4: because not only are they adding further depth, and a

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Speaker 4: really good player.

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Speaker 5: But Foley was their best run stopper.

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Speaker 4: You could see the difference when he was on the

712
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Speaker 4: field versus when he wasn't on the field.

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Speaker 5: I think there was a twenty yard rushing difference when

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Speaker 5: Foley was on the field per game.

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Speaker 4: And they liked him. He's a good guy. He brings

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Speaker 4: a good leadership to the room, a good energy, good experience.

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Speaker 4: They call him the big Dog. You know, wrote story

718
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Speaker 4: on all these guys nicknames, and we've talked about it previously,

719
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Speaker 4: but they call him the big Dog and he's a

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Speaker 4: big part of that group. So I thought that I

721
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Speaker 4: was probably one of the more closer units on this team.

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Speaker 4: And for them to bring I think just about every

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Speaker 4: guy back, plus Ad Sheldon Rankins, who was a veteran

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Speaker 4: who was a mentor to Will Anderson, I think that

725
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: is a great decision for the Texans, and it's going

726
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Speaker 4: to be hard to make this team. You might see

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Speaker 4: a guy like as far on the defense line. You

728
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Speaker 4: might see a guy like Kurt Highness not naked, a

729
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Speaker 4: guy like some timing too, guy who I thought played

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Speaker 4: extremely well.

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Speaker 5: He might be on the edge. They're gonna have a

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Speaker 5: lot of great players in that edifise line run.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the offensive side for a moment.

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Speaker 1: And usually there's nothing that could happen at rookie camp

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Speaker 1: to make me overall change my opinion of how somebody

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Speaker 1: might fit in at this time of year. Of course,

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Speaker 1: once you see them in training camp and in preseason games,

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Speaker 1: opinions vary, opinions get shaped. But the running back situation

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Speaker 1: with Woody Marx and I only bring this up because

740
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Speaker 1: wood He's out there by himself and Danny Barrett's single

741
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Speaker 1: handedly coaching him private tutoring. But what jumped out to

742
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Speaker 1: me about what he marks was just the way he

743
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Speaker 1: looks physically, Jonathan. He looks like in every down back

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Speaker 1: and we all see the highlights and we know he

745
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Speaker 1: catches a bunch of passes, but I think he can

746
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Speaker 1: run the ball.

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Speaker 2: And how do you see that working out?

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like he's going to take some carries,

749
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Speaker 1: and I don't mean that as a bad thing. I

750
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Speaker 1: think it helps the team. He'll steal carries from somewhere,

751
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Speaker 1: which will lighten the load for either Mixing, Piers Dare whoever.

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Speaker 1: And you'll take advantage of the playmaking ability of what

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Speaker 1: he marks. How do you see him possibly fitting in

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Speaker 1: in that running back room.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact that he can catch passes gives you

756
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: a different option than Joe Mixing. Obviously, Joe catch the

757
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 4: ball out of the backfield, but you want Joe running it,

758
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Speaker 4: and you know they don't want to run Joe into

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Speaker 4: the ground. Running Backs get hurt there they they're contacted

760
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Speaker 4: with often. We saw a lot of injuries in the

761
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Speaker 4: running back room last year and the Texans needed But

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Speaker 4: I think it's potential. You can see a situation with

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Speaker 4: so many different guys, you can see a potential situation

764
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Speaker 4: where they might a team might be looking for a

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Speaker 4: running back and the Texans have so many that you know,

766
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Speaker 4: a guy like Damian Pierce may become interesting for teams.

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Speaker 4: I think he if they don't trade him, I think

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Speaker 4: he stays on the team. I think he's valuable on

769
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Speaker 4: special teams as well. But he's an entry in the

770
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Speaker 4: final year of his rookie deal, and I think you

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Speaker 4: don't trade up to get wig Marts unless you think

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Speaker 4: he can be a contributor right now and into the future.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this one's for both of you. Jonathan, you go first.

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Speaker 3: Next Friday, you get a call from Mickey Loomis, the

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Speaker 3: GM of the New Orleans Saints. He offers you a

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Speaker 3: second round pick for Davis Mills. Now, the thought is

777
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Speaker 3: the Saints may not be that good, so that pick

778
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Speaker 3: could end up being a top forty pick. But you

779
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Speaker 3: are offered a second round pick for Davis Mills. Now,

780
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Speaker 3: I love Davis. I'd like to see Davis here, but

781
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Speaker 3: I also want to see Davis get a shot in

782
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Speaker 3: New Orleans. Might be that shot after Derek Carr retired. So, Jonathan,

783
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Speaker 3: what do you tell Mickey Loomis when he offers you

784
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Speaker 3: that second round pick for Davis Mills.

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Speaker 4: Nothing against Davis. We often talk about food in the

786
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: locker room. But I tell Mickey Loomis to write that

787
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Speaker 4: trade up and send it in second round picking a.

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Speaker 1: Heartbeat, Johnny, make it harder, Okay. A third Okay, that

789
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Speaker 1: makes it a little harder. Okay, make it is automatic. Okay,

790
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Speaker 1: A third, A third?

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Speaker 5: Third? I do it. I would and do it four.

792
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Speaker 5: But the third, Yes, I do a third, and I

793
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 5: still do it.

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Speaker 2: A third. I do it.

795
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Speaker 3: But I better plan, because that's what I was going

796
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Speaker 3: to say. What's what's your plan after that? Who is

797
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: your backup?

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Speaker 2: Quarterback. After the talk.

799
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Speaker 1: Derek Carr to come out of retire to be my

800
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: backup notes, your backup quarterback. It's not gonna happen. But

801
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, if you make that deal, if

802
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: you ship Davis out of here, your backup quarterback is

803
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: not on the roster.

804
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Speaker 2: So you better do something good.

805
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Speaker 1: And I don't know what that is, but look, look,

806
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Speaker 1: the Browns have five quarterbacks and.

807
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Speaker 4: A lot they have none backups, a lot of quality backups.

808
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: Trade for Shoe Flacco, you.

809
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Speaker 4: Can get what they'll cut one of those guys. So

810
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Speaker 4: maybe you get one of those after they get cut

811
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Speaker 4: out of training camp.

812
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Speaker 2: They'll never be options out there. They'll never trade Flaco. No.

813
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Speaker 1: So no, it's gonna be because he'll start for them.

814
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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be Kenny Pickett for a sixth or

815
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Speaker 1: a seventh.

816
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Speaker 2: Where should Kobe Brissette right now? I don't know, but

817
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Speaker 2: commanders I think into that. Yeah, one of those I'll

818
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Speaker 2: look into that. I'll look into that. Possible.

819
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Speaker 3: Kobe Pressett would be the perfect if it happened. Prissette

820
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Speaker 3: would be perfect in just being the he's been there before,

821
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Speaker 3: he's done this before, he knows how to go into

822
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Speaker 3: a game. If something were to happen with the Cardinals. Cardinals, Yeah,

823
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Speaker 3: what about this though? Who MANI I support? You've done

824
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: business with him before? Or I just hang out with

825
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Speaker 3: whoever I've got on the roster.

826
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Speaker 1: I go with Mertz, I go with Keaton Slovas, And

827
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Speaker 1: if God forbid, something happens.

828
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers come out of the dark. Oh stop it,

829
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Speaker 2: you know?

830
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Speaker 3: Okay, that was not where I expected this to go

831
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Speaker 3: and not where I want to exist.

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Speaker 1: Retreat somebody knocked on the tank where he is in

833
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Speaker 1: the dark, and get them out. Jonathan, how many primetime

834
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: games do the Texans get?

835
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Speaker 2: What's your prediction. We're all going on the record here tonight.

836
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna say they get three, three primetime games.

837
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Speaker 5: You might get four nationally televised games.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say two games played at night.

839
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Speaker 2: I've changed.

840
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Speaker 3: I thought it was three, but I'm going down to two.

841
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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's just because.

842
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: Oh, you're wrong. There's no way my wrong, you're wrong. Two. Oh,

843
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 2: there's no, it's at least three.

844
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Speaker 5: No.

845
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Speaker 1: Remember, you're gonna get a Monday, you're gonna get a Sunday,

846
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get a Thursday. No, that's three right there,

847
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: and then you might get an extra Monday.

848
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: Down the line, I'm gonna go four.

849
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Speaker 5: I'm going four.

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Speaker 2: I'm putting it all.

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00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh's right, it's probably three, but I'm going two.

852
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: Just kind of seeing who's currying favor basically with the league.

853
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: Like the league is basically saying the Bears are going

854
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: to the super Bowl. We're putting them on primetime in

855
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: every way shape.

856
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: Possible to be talking about Jonathan quickly here, and this

857
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: is just among us.

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Speaker 2: Types who cover the games.

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Speaker 1: We all love it when they're in primetime because that

860
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Speaker 1: means they're good. But we all like the noon games,

861
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Speaker 1: don't we for a work life balance, don't we?

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00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 5: Yeah? Oh absolutely, I mean I'm.

863
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Speaker 2: Done, Yeah, exactly exactly. Newton games are the best. All right,

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Speaker 2: what do you have going out to the chronicle for us?

865
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Speaker 4: I'll have you know, I'll have all the coverage on

866
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Speaker 4: the schedule, most interesting games, and then i'll do my

867
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Speaker 4: after the schedule comes out on Thursday, I'll do my record,

868
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Speaker 4: my yearly record petition.

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Speaker 1: Sounds awesome, Jonathan, thanks so much, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: That's our buddy, Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle coming up.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love the NFL, but some things they

872
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: do confuse me.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Johnny can straighten me out.

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Speaker 1: Next here on Texans All Access, Final segment, Final Journey

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Speaker 1: of the evening. Here on Texans Radio, Mark Vandermaer and

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you. Okay, Johnny, explain this to me.

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Speaker 1: The schedule comes out a little over twenty four hours

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Speaker 1: from now now tomorrow at six our.

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Speaker 2: Schedule release pregame show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we'll have lots of little tidbits of information

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Speaker 1: as they are leaked incorrectly and sometimes correctly. We just

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Speaker 1: don't know, so we'll go over it together and then

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Speaker 1: at seven it'll come out. It'll be amazing, I think,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it together. All right, Johnny, here

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Speaker 1: we go. I'm confused as to why the Chicago Bears. Now,

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Speaker 1: last year the Chicago Bears were given a lot of

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Speaker 1: high marks preseason. Oh, they added all this talent, Caleb games,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be amazing. Let's put them in all these

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Speaker 1: national windows. And then dud City. It was awful. Now

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Speaker 1: I understand. Week two, great Sunday Night. It was awesome

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Speaker 1: with the Texans. It was an entertaining game, so good,

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Speaker 1: no harm, no foul. They went to and two. They

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Speaker 1: lost their opener, right yep, so they went to oh

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Speaker 1: and two at the time, but and I know they

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Speaker 1: kind of straightened out the ship from there, but then

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Speaker 1: they went on a tremendous slide so and obviously led

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Speaker 1: to the eber Flus's firing and all that.

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Speaker 2: And here we are today Ben Johnson, Oh now, we

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Speaker 2: got Ben Jonson and all this young this and that.

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Speaker 2: The other day.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Mike, we've done the offensive line over. It's like

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Speaker 1: a massive renovation. Let's put them in all these national

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Speaker 1: windows again late in the season.

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Speaker 2: Are they crazy? I mean, don't you.

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Speaker 1: Learn your lesson here? Come on, just put the big

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Speaker 1: national brands on or the teams you know should be

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Speaker 1: pretty good, like the Houston Texans in these late season

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Speaker 1: national windows.

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Speaker 2: Not the Chicago Bears. They're playing on Black Friday? What

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Speaker 2: are we doing? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna play on Christmas too, because they

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Speaker 3: also announced two other games that are taking place the

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Speaker 3: Saturday before Christmas. Yeah yeah, so, and just doing the

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Speaker 3: math on last year we played the Chiefs and the

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Speaker 3: Ravens played the Steelers on that Saturday, we turned around

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Speaker 3: and played on Christmas. You tell me, are the Bears

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Speaker 3: gonna be any good late in the season this year? Like,

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Speaker 3: if you had to, they're gonna put you in charge

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Speaker 3: of the schedule. Are you putting the Bears in those

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Speaker 3: big national windows late?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: If I've got a Chicago Washington game, gonna put Kayler

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Speaker 3: Williams against Jayde Daniels probably okay once, yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: Early ish maybe, depending on when that game happened.

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Speaker 1: Last year, we had a rookie of the Year that's

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Speaker 1: right against Caleb Williams, that's right, and we.

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Speaker 3: Had Week two Sunday night football, So I would maybe

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Speaker 3: tap into that. I might do a Bears Lions game

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Speaker 3: because Ben Johnson came from Detroit.

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Speaker 2: But I don't want to pretty much where it stops,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think I understand being fascinated with the Bears. I

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Speaker 1: do Chicago, number three market in the country, huge market.

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Speaker 2: I think when the Bears are good, it's good.

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Speaker 1: For the league. I agree with all this. I would

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Speaker 1: just load it up in the front half of the season. Now,

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Speaker 1: if they get to be really good late, you still

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Speaker 1: have flex scheduling possibilities.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. You have those agreed a plenty.

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Speaker 3: I mean in division, in a division, Lions, Packers, Vikings

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Speaker 3: all three playoffs last year. So okay, they played Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Anybody plays the Cowboys is gonna happen. We play the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys anytime. I don't care who's playing quarterback. Cooper Rush,

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Speaker 3: Cooper Rush's son. I don't care who's playing quarterback. I'm

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Speaker 3: putting the Cowboys on the year as much as possible

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Speaker 3: because people either love them or hate them.

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Speaker 2: Most people hate them.

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Speaker 3: They also have the Giants, no Browns, no Steelers, no idea.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback is probably gonna be Aaron Rodgers bow We'll

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Speaker 3: see in the Saints. None of those on the road, Eagles, Commanders, Ravens, Bengals, Niners,

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Speaker 3: and Raiders. Holy cow, that's tough. So I could see.

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Speaker 3: I could see a few, but it's the Bear. I

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Speaker 3: would make them prove it in a sense. But I

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Speaker 3: remember when Mike North went on with our buddy Socapaccio

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Speaker 3: and he pointed out sal didn't even bring it up,

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Speaker 3: but they were talking about trying to capitalize on hot

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Speaker 3: teams in the centinies, and Mike North mentioned the Texans

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Speaker 3: look in twenty twenty three, nobody really knew how good

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Speaker 3: they were going to be, and we couldn't get them

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Speaker 3: in a flex game until the end of the year

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Speaker 3: when they played Week eighteen against the Colts. We sort

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Speaker 3: of missed out. So what was kind of the correcting

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Speaker 3: thing in twenty twenty four? They put us on six

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Speaker 3: national TV windows? But what are the Bears knew last

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Speaker 3: year to make you feel like it'll turn around?

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Speaker 2: Like they go ten to seventy into play.

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Speaker 1: They projected the Bears in twenty twenty four to be

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three Texas right, and they weren't even

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Speaker 1: lost rookie quarterback. They're gonna be, So no, don't do

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Speaker 1: that now. The Bears did win seven games in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three with Fields, so they thought they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: win fewer than seven with Caleb Williams. But not so fast,

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Speaker 1: my friend, because they did and it was ugly, So

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Speaker 1: forget about it. Fields is not look Caleb Williams. I'd

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Speaker 1: rather have Caleb Williams ceiling than Fields ceiling. But Fields

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Speaker 1: can make some plays with his legs that few quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: can make, so that really helped the Bears out with

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Speaker 1: their running attack in twenty twenty three. Anyway, that's what

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Speaker 1: the league is doing about that. I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: the opportunity right now to revise your primetime game per day.

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Speaker 2: Are you Are you gonna back off your two games

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Speaker 2: stick it to I think it's a Sunday night and

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Speaker 2: Monday night. I take it back.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it'll be a Thursday night and a Monday night.

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna get a Sunday night. No Sunday night,

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Speaker 3: Thursday and Monday, even.

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Speaker 1: Though you're playing the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Bells. No,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: That's what you're going That's what you're gonna get, and

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Speaker 3: you'll here's my other thought, you get too, but you'll

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Speaker 3: get flexed.

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Speaker 2: Into one later in the year because it'll be a.

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Speaker 1: Big Texans primetime games. Last year Bears entertaining Detroit, very entertaining,

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Speaker 1: very disappointing for the Texans, but very entertaining for the

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Speaker 1: national audience. Jets not so much. Oh Cowboys blew them out,

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Speaker 1: but it was fun for us, but not entertaining from

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Speaker 1: a national standpoint. Although you love to see the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: get stuffed like a grape and Napa Valley so there's

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Speaker 1: that one other note in the way out, because we're

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Speaker 1: contractually obligated to mention anything involving Bill Belichick. Jordan is

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Speaker 1: apparently turning down Dancing with the Stars but looking at

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Speaker 1: other TV opportunities.

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Speaker 2: Shock.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, capitalizing on your fifteen minutes of fame.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely do it. Yes, so crazy not to.

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Speaker 3: So the ACC has had they've had their meetings, they

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Speaker 3: have their annual spring meetings, and so apparently Belichick was

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Speaker 3: asked in front of the media members about Jordan Hudson

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Speaker 3: from the AC meetings, and he said, quote, it's off

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Speaker 3: to the side, a personal relationship. She doesn't have anything

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Speaker 3: to do with you, and see football. I'm excited to

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Speaker 3: be back in coaches meetings.

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Speaker 2: The good comment. Good for him, that's the best way.

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Speaker 3: Whoever he hired maybe help him with the Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 3: that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Good job you are guy. All Right, that's the show

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Speaker 1: for tonight tomorrow night schedule. These pregame show, can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Area forty five coming up next. They've got a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Go Texans.