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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show Ridiculous Historians. We've done our ritualistic capiola, which

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Speaker 1: we are not going to explain. Clapiola. Excuse me, shout

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Speaker 1: out to our super producer, mister Max Williams.

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Speaker 2: What what I bet your No? Clapiola sounds like some

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Speaker 2: weird like kind of renaissance instruments that is no longer

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Speaker 2: do we go popular.

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Speaker 1: You can't pluck the strings, you have to clap on them.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: We have done so much cool research over the years,

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Speaker 1: and we make no secret that there's often a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff we don't get to in the course of

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Speaker 1: one episode or another. But we're we're just sponges for

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Speaker 1: all the ridiculous, strange stories of people, places and events

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Speaker 1: throughout human history. So we we end up saving all

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Speaker 1: of this. We hoard these weird stories, and we decided

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Speaker 1: a while back that we're going to make a series

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Speaker 1: of all the stuff that got left over in a

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Speaker 1: burst of creativity. We call it the Stuff that Got

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Speaker 1: left Over, And this is part two of that series.

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Speaker 1: And Noel scrolling through our our research nibs, our odds.

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Speaker 2: And snippets, so we keep all the snippets there we go.

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Speaker 2: I think we we found some stuff that we just

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Speaker 2: we just could not leave off the air. I don't

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Speaker 2: know where should we begin. Oh, how about Stan huge

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Speaker 2: Ol the last Shantiman. Yes, indeed, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: a chancy mean. I'm assuming we're talking about sea shanty's

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Speaker 3: because Stan hue Gill or I don't actually know how

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Speaker 3: and there's like a BBC obituary of him, and that's

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Speaker 3: a chance that every sea shanty that we know today

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Speaker 2: I think I've mentioned before that I felt woefully excluded

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Speaker 2: that just sort of passed me by. I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: But then we you know, we've talked about on the

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Speaker 2: show multiple times that you and our buddy Matt Frederick

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Speaker 2: had a nice sea shanty moments in southern California and

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Speaker 2: we were traveling together. We all maybe were a few

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Speaker 1: We called them, We decided to call them street shanties.

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Speaker 1: I think that was back when when we were all

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Speaker 1: It was oh boy did it was celebratory and uh,

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Speaker 1: to be sure, to be certain, but people could. I

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Speaker 1: think our wholesome inner buzz energy was contagious. And it

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Speaker 1: turns out, as our pal Max indicated earlier, that we

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Speaker 1: owe a lot of this to a guy named Stan

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Speaker 1: Hugil or Hugil. This topic started as one for a

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Speaker 1: beautiful show that really shows us the potential of podcasting

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Speaker 1: called Ephemeral, that Max and Alex and several other of

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Speaker 1: our colleagues made available today. By the way you can listen,

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Speaker 1: you'll hear all sorts of familiar voices popping in and

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Speaker 1: out of various episodes. And like Max said, it's tough

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Speaker 1: to find research on our pal Stan. There really isn't

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Speaker 1: give Stan his flowers or his his shanty credits. The

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Speaker 1: shantyman shance be denied. Let's learn a little bit more cants.

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Speaker 1: He can't can't, No, he can't be denied.

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Speaker 2: Simon Moffatt is an expert on this fellow and wrote

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Speaker 2: the king of the Sea Shanty, the legendary Stan Hugle,

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Speaker 2: came from Merseyside. And you know, I saw Mercyside and

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Speaker 1: And this this idea of a sea shanty for anybody who,

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Speaker 2: Much more grizzled.

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Speaker 1: And so what you would do is you'd be sailing

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Speaker 1: it at some point. Now, Stan who was born in

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Speaker 1: Hoylake in nineteen oh six became the sort of.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say gatekeeper because I don't like

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Speaker 2: that connotation, but he became the great aggregator, the great collector.

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Speaker 1: Of this tradition. And who was that guy in the

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Speaker 2: brothers Lomax Yeah and his brother Yeah, brother as well.

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Speaker 1: A free sea shanty, do you sir? Congratulations, Yes, the Lomaxes.

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Speaker 1: So our buddy Stan first goes to see when he's

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Speaker 1: even earlier. To be honest, he spent more than two

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Speaker 2: But despite you know, you can take the man out

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Speaker 2: of the sea, but you can't take the sea shanty

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Speaker 2: out of the man. He is love of the sea,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he made Yeah, he made over two hundred

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Speaker 1: He wrote five different books on sea shanties. Those are

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Speaker 1: conversation about translations, he was also a polyglot. He was

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Speaker 1: fluent in Spanish. Okay, good, that's an achievement. But he's

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Speaker 1: even more impressive to note he was fluent in Japanese,

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Speaker 2: To learn one. I was about to say, it just

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Speaker 2: of Merseyside called Storm Along John. I'm really waiting for

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Speaker 1: When Storm Along John and the Albatross Boys would be

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Speaker 1: still slap to the point about the resurgence of Sea

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Speaker 1: Shanty's a few years back, which which we relate to.

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Speaker 1: I got to tell you, guys, my favorite parody shanty

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Speaker 1: comes from the Trailer Park Boys, remember them, the Canadian.

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Speaker 1: I think they just filmed it for kicks because they

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Speaker 2: You know. He loves the kiddies and Bubbles I forget

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Speaker 2: the Shit Rockers. So I really hope to let you

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Speaker 2: through Atlanta. I mean, we can all go check it out.

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Speaker 1: And back to our friend the legend stand. Stan sadly

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Speaker 1: passed away in nineteen ninety two and Aberstwyth in Wales,

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Speaker 1: and he was in his pretty humble abode to up

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Speaker 1: shanty music. And you can still find some of his

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Speaker 1: shanty books, but they are out of print. Just to

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Speaker 1: shanties we know today, come to us thanks to Stan

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. I mean these would have kind

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Speaker 2: So let's pivot from from presidential cows to hot tubs,

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Speaker 2: Now, I'll tell you you know what rich people love

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is not the only cool hot tub.

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Speaker 2: Hotel Ranga. Ah yes, yes, ah, yes, the Hotel Ranga.

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Speaker 2: You can spot the Mount Hecla volcano from three outdoor

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Speaker 2: riverside hot tubs at Hotel Rinka, located in a pastoral

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Speaker 2: you can request an Aurora alarm clock to make sure

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Speaker 2: you catch a night skylit with color or stargaze from

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Speaker 2: the hotel's standalone observatory, complete with retractable roof but's wing

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Speaker 2: the suns up. You ask, well, you'll explore glacial caves,

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Speaker 2: take a scenic flight over Mount Hecla, and fish for

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Speaker 2: salmon in the east Mango biffo. He just reach in

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Speaker 2: there and grab them with your hands. They're just lous

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Speaker 2: them with salmon. Also cheaper than going to the restaurants

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Speaker 2: in Iceland. To be honest, apparently everything is prohibited, and

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Speaker 2: it makes sense because it's so remote, you know, it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, hard to get that. It's like, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you guys have been keeping up with the

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Speaker 2: new season of True Detective where they're in allowed, but

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Speaker 2: there's one really telling kind of not like particularly exciting detail,

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Speaker 2: but like Oreos costs like twenty five dollars there because

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Speaker 2: like it's the important export is getting the funians there.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a it's a it's a difficult proposition,

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Speaker 2: it really is.

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Speaker 1: And I know that show is quote unquote controversial to

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Speaker 1: some folks.

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Speaker 2: But I like it. I love it a new episode

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Speaker 2: that came out yesterday I thought was a banger. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see where it No. No, I'm really

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Speaker 2: excited to see where it goes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's smart to keep it to

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Speaker 1: six episodes there.

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Speaker 2: It's leaning into the supernatural stuff, like one of them

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Speaker 2: to season one. I think it's cool. I think they're

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Speaker 2: doing a five know, I love it. Man. And and

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Speaker 2: speaking of weird things, we have been doing that for

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Speaker 2: the last thirty minutes or so. Shall we continue? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: speaking of one thing before we move on.

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Speaker 1: True Detective Night Country, I think a beautiful thing they

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Speaker 1: did is so surreal is any of those moments that

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Speaker 1: we see can be occurring at eleven am local time?

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Speaker 2: And it's really disorienting even just watching the show and realizing,

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Speaker 2: like what time was it supposed to be? Like are

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Speaker 2: they are they going to bed late or early or

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Speaker 2: like anyway, it's very very interesting. I highly recommend and

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Speaker 2: put aside any preconceived notions about what you might think

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Speaker 2: about the previous season. I think it's very well done.

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Speaker 1: And do know, do be honest with yourself, folks, and

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Speaker 1: realize that a lot of the criticism of that show

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Speaker 1: is coming from the internet's love of misogyny.

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Speaker 2: Just absolutely, just to be honest, because the showrunner used

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Speaker 2: to be pretty manly man, you know, Nick Pittsilao, and

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Speaker 2: now this season's helm by a woman, and I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people that kind of brokes him the

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Speaker 2: wrong way. Yeah, Nick was acting out a little on

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Speaker 2: his Instagram. Nick can say, you see he's he does that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a huge I'm not a huge fan of

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Speaker 2: his vibes in that respect. So these people can dump

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Speaker 2: a bucket of cold water on your head. That's all

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Speaker 2: I've got to say. You know, no hot tough for them.

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Speaker 2: You know what we are speaking of frozen things? Yeah right,

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Speaker 2: we've got We've got double seguayes here.

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Speaker 1: What we are fans of is weird commercials and food.

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Speaker 1: And we thought, dating back to our November twenty fourth,

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Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty twenty twenty two Keep It All

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Speaker 1: in Max episode on How the there was a massive

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Speaker 1: screw up on the part of Swanson that led to

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Speaker 1: the dawn of Frozen TV Dinners. They actually they ordered

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Speaker 1: way too much turkey that they thought they were gonna

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Speaker 1: move move during the Thanksgiving season, and since they didn't

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Speaker 1: sell the Turkey. They couldn't take a loss on it,

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Speaker 1: so they made television dinners. We found we found a

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Speaker 1: lot of weird, weird TV dinner commercials. As a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, what if we do know this was your idea.

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Speaker 1: What if we do a little bit of a montage

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Speaker 1: of TV dinners and then we'll just come back for

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Speaker 1: the credits.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have a montage.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you gals think you're lucky you can get Swanson

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Speaker 3: TV Turkey Dinners.

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Speaker 2: But I say Swanson TV Turkey Dinners are a bigger

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Speaker 2: break for husbands. Now you take me. I could be early,

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Speaker 2: that can be late, that can bring pals to dinner anytime.

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Speaker 3: I please.

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Speaker 2: And get this, My wife never panics. She just takes

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Speaker 2: Swanson TV Turkey Dinners from the freezing compartment of our

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Speaker 2: refrigerator when I'm a little off schedule.

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Speaker 3: And right you are, Jack, you a world away from

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Speaker 3: the every day with the new Swanson International Dinners. Take

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Speaker 3: you away from there every day to a world makes

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Speaker 3: you want in from Swanson.

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Speaker 2: A fine wine is a perfect balancing of taste. So

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Speaker 2: is a fine dinner. You Le menuel Le menu frozen

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Speaker 2: dinners from Swansen so extraordinary. You dares have them with

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Speaker 2: a vintage wine. This is an ordinary man. Honey, come home,

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Speaker 2: this is a baby today, your bodyslfusial. I'll starve it.

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Speaker 2: What's for de I made your favorite.

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Speaker 1: Hungry and there we go, big, big thanks to the

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Speaker 1: super producer, the man, the myth legend, mister Max Williams

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Speaker 1: for that lovely montage which I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know about you. Noel left me a little famished. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: specifically for some kind of weird meet and three with

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Speaker 2: some brown gravy, uh gelatinous.

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Speaker 3: Also, just to jump in to bring this fact back

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Speaker 3: up for the original episode, they didn't have a place

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Speaker 3: to store this stuff, but they had a train that

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Speaker 3: as long as the train was moving, it would refrigerate.

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Speaker 3: They've had a train going between like I think it was,

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Speaker 3: Ohio and New.

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Speaker 2: Jersey, back and forth. With all that back and forth.

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Speaker 3: That was their solution was to just keep doing that.

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Speaker 2: Because they were there. They were in desperate danger of

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Speaker 2: having these things spoil because they had way too many

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Speaker 2: of them, right.

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Speaker 1: And they also uh, they also pulled off quite a

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Speaker 1: coup because the American public in the beginning didn't bother

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Speaker 1: to ask why the main entree for all of these

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Speaker 1: was Turkey.

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Speaker 2: Inevitably. Uh so rest is history though, you know, and

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Speaker 2: as we experienced uh through the magic of editing. M

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Speaker 2: h and uh speaking to Magic, Turkey's big shot out

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Speaker 2: to the Quist Jonathan strick big big thanks A J.

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Speaker 1: Jacobs the Puzzler, check it out, check it Uh. Noel's

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Speaker 1: going to be on.

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Speaker 2: His show at the Puzzler pretty soon. They just did

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Speaker 2: a live show in New York. I sign that a

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Speaker 2: lot of fun. Yeah, I really liked that guy, super cool.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Let's let's let's drop the facade. We

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Speaker 2: like Jonathan Strickland too. I'm gonna be the first one

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Speaker 2: to say I said earlier episode. I know, I know,

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Speaker 2: we we we always say we love you. Jonathan's huge

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Speaker 2: thanks to Eves, Jeff Co, Chris frasciotis here in spirit,

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Speaker 2: Alex Williams who composed this banging bippity bop that you're

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Speaker 2: hearing in your ear holes right now, and big big

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Speaker 2: thanks to you, Noel. Here's two more episodes in the future,

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Speaker 2: and also with you. We'll see you next time, folks.

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Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows,