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Speaker 1: your hosts. Brian brought us Jeff Cavanaugh, Kyle Yeoman, and

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Speaker 1: David Hellman. It is Tuesday, March the eighth, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: It's go time, y'all. It's it's actually like there's no

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Speaker 1: more of this, like qualifying like early days. We don't

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Speaker 1: know a whole lot. The NFL Combine is over. We

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Speaker 1: are back from Indianapolis. We were back with Jeff Kavanaugh.

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us Kyle Yeoman sitting down beside me. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk some combine. Let's talk some takes, some reactions, preferably

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Speaker 1: hot takes. The hotter the better. How you feeling, Let

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Speaker 1: me guess where you're going. Jeff, did you know sky More?

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Speaker 1: I did it twenty four rhymes? Did you know that

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Speaker 1: we're not doing this like I mean, we can act

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Speaker 1: we can have a conversation about sky Moore at fifty six,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I wouldn't hate it at twenty four.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna put it out there. That's how good I

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Speaker 1: think he is. Jesus Christ. Sky Moore's tape is awesome.

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Speaker 1: And now he runs the fastest ten yards split amongst

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Speaker 1: going to be a beast in the NFL. Get ready.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I knew we were going beast in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate um, you just getting it right out

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Speaker 1: him at fifty six, you don't think so? Nope, The

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Speaker 1: That's the next question. Yeah, that people are asking around

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Speaker 1: As exasperated as I am by sky More. And that's

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Speaker 1: there were no fights on radio road. I tried it

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Speaker 1: just wasn't the same. And do you think he pissed

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Speaker 1: the Jets off? No, No, not that Trayvon Walker amazing,

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Speaker 1: amazing workout, and I mean Dane's been selling this guy

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Speaker 1: as a top ten he has. How do you feel

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Speaker 1: about him? Did his workout do anything to change your mind? There? No,

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Speaker 1: I've kind of like, you know, you watch his tape,

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Speaker 1: it's just to me. You know, the workout, all those

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Speaker 1: Georgia kids. I tweeted about this. I mean like, well,

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Speaker 1: we're surprised that these Georgia kids all ran well and

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Speaker 1: worked out well. He just watched their tape and we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about a bunch. They all run to the ball.

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Speaker 1: I mean, every single one of them runs to the ball,

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Speaker 1: and it's like it's like a race to see who

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Speaker 1: gets there first. And you know, with with stuff with Walker,

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Speaker 1: anyone of these Georgia guys, it didn't surprise me at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I maybe you're in a situation now. We

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Speaker 1: were kind of talking about him as being a guy

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Speaker 1: at twenty four. You know, maybe that's maybe that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a stretch now with the with the

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Speaker 1: couple of different spots. I'm seeing him rush inside, seeing

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Speaker 1: him rush on the edge. You're talking about a guy

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Cowboys. I told y'all we would get

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Speaker 1: into it. I don't want you to think that I

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Speaker 1: don't want to talk about Zion Johnson. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to give Jason credit for a great question. He says,

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Speaker 1: Twitter on the Twitter Twitter, you know you know what,

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Speaker 1: you know what we do in the second segment. You know.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to intro it. It's fine. Too much

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Speaker 1: going on in the show today, Dave, Look, I got

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to, man, it stresses me out.

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Speaker 1: Jason wants to know why shouldn't Zion Johnson be og

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Speaker 1: one fight. I think it's a fair question. I will

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Speaker 1: probably have him as O g one um. I had

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Speaker 1: him as a one two cheater grade and can you

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Speaker 1: green as a first round grade? And with their athletic

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Speaker 1: testing factored in, I think it's a legitimate debate conversation

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Speaker 1: between Kenyan Green and Zion Johnson. I love Zion Johnson.

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Speaker 1: If he's the pick at twenty four, you'll see me going, WHOA,

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Speaker 1: what makes you like him more than Green? He tested

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Speaker 1: well in every way, Like I already liked him. I

511
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Speaker 1: liked I really liked his tape. And then when you

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Speaker 1: test as let's see the jumps, the shuttle, the three cone,

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Speaker 1: all of those were elite for an offensive lineman or

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Speaker 1: for an offensive guard. Tackles can be more athletic, and

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Speaker 1: so not that I had athleticism questions about him, but

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Speaker 1: when you find out that the guy is plus plus plus,

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Speaker 1: that's a little bonus. He's an awesome player and he's

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Speaker 1: an awesome athlete. That's a first round guy. Brian, you

519
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Speaker 1: look pensive. I don't think this guy completely trusts himself

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Speaker 1: as a pass blocker. I don't, and I think that

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Speaker 1: it's many things as the bad testing as you might

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Speaker 1: want to talk about with Kenyon Green, I think he

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Speaker 1: does trust himself. I think that's a nasty football player

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Speaker 1: that Kenyon Green. And I'll i'll you know, I think

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Speaker 1: he'll surprise you with how well he can redirect and

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Speaker 1: how he's able to adjust in space, and he did.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can watch him play tackle against Alabama

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Speaker 1: and hold his own against that team. And I think

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Speaker 1: to play tackle against Alabama, you've got to be able

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Speaker 1: to be a pretty good athlete. So that doesn't bother

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Speaker 1: me as much. But I just kind of feel like though,

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Speaker 1: to me with with Johnson, you know, I've seen a

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Speaker 1: guy that you know, like I said, I think he

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Speaker 1: does a good job of play until the whistle blows.

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Speaker 1: I was writing stuff about that, but there's that slight

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Speaker 1: hesitation with him. And again it's about the trust of

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Speaker 1: him as a pass blocker that bothers me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: That's why I have I have ed Ingram over him myself.

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Speaker 1: And it's not an LSU bias. I'm just looking at players,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just trying to figure it out. If

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Speaker 1: you had to give me the you had to give

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Speaker 1: me the rank him, I'd say green ingraman Johnson would

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Speaker 1: be my three guys. I'm curious. Go ahead. I was

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Speaker 1: just going to ask you based on the what we

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Speaker 1: saw from the combine, I mean, strength was something that

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Speaker 1: I was knocking Johnson for at least from his tape,

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Speaker 1: and then he comes out and he has twelve more

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Speaker 1: bitch press reps than than ken Yon Green. Yeah, kind

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Speaker 1: of going back to what you were saying, how aggressive

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Speaker 1: ken Yon Green is but fundamentally sound, he's a better

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Speaker 1: player on tape. Does that Where does that weigh in

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Speaker 1: in terms of scouting departments when you're looking at Zion

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Speaker 1: Johnson as a raw talent, where maybe Green is nearing

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Speaker 1: the ceiling because of how fundamentally sound he is, whereas

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Speaker 1: Johnson may have even more room to improve. I would

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Speaker 1: flip that, you think, so I have more faith in

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Speaker 1: Zion Johnson and has a fundamental players of consistency. Yeah. Really,

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Speaker 1: I think he's the best sustainer of blocks in this draft.

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00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: I think the combination of flexibility mobility grips blocks on

560
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Speaker 1: he doesn't let go. I think Zion is pretty damn safe.

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Speaker 1: I think to me, Kenyan Green is more not a

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Speaker 1: projection because he's played so many different places. But when

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Speaker 1: you're playing so many different places, you know you're asked

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Speaker 1: to do different things at different times, as seeing the

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Speaker 1: left guard every week. Uh point, I think Zion Johnson

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Speaker 1: is safer than Kenyan Green. Brian, why do you think

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Speaker 1: it is because Zion tested very well athletically? Why why

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Speaker 1: do you think it is that he wouldn't trust himself

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Speaker 1: as a pass blocker. I don't think he really trusted

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Speaker 1: his strength. I don't. I mean there's there's times when

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Speaker 1: you watch him play and there's that hesitation, and it

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Speaker 1: didn't look like that he was really really sure about

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Speaker 1: you know how he and he and he's strong enough.

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Speaker 1: The numbers tell you he's strong enough, you know. But

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Speaker 1: I you watch Green. When greenlocks on a guy, that

576
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: guy doesn't move, I mean they don't go back. I

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Speaker 1: mean they sit right there on the line, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I just there were there were games that I saw.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can watch Zion Johnson play against Clemson

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Speaker 1: and teams like that that have these really good athletic

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman, and I kind of felt like that that

582
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Speaker 1: was a good test. So here I'm watching Alabama, you know,

583
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Speaker 1: tape for Green, I'm watching Zion Johnson play against Clemson,

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Speaker 1: and I'm kind of trying to watch the best of

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Speaker 1: the best. I just felt more confident that the guy

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Speaker 1: and that Texas A and M was just a little

587
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Speaker 1: bit more of a of a guy that when you

588
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Speaker 1: know he wasn't going to get knocked back or pulled

589
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: forward or pulled out of his stance. This feels like

590
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Speaker 1: a perfect example of the way this draft class is

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Speaker 1: structured in the sense of, like, there's talent, there's not

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Speaker 1: a lot of consensus passed about six or seven prospects,

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Speaker 1: and we're seeing in the top six or seven. I

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Speaker 1: feel like y'all are saying the same thing about different players.

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, well, here's why all the reasons I

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Speaker 1: like this guy not so much, And it's just beauties

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00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: in the eye of the beholder, right, Yeah, that's the

598
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: thing about it. The cowboys as good as we think

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Speaker 1: the players are the twenty four, like I said earlier

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Speaker 1: to open the show, there's gonna be some flaws and

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Speaker 1: every one of these guys. You know this happens when

602
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Speaker 1: you're picking twenty four. I mean, yeah, I mean, and

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Speaker 1: that's true, but you've got to know the flaws you're

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Speaker 1: dealing with that's going in. I mean, you're not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's one of these guys is going to be plug

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Speaker 1: and play. Lindar Baum plug and play, absolutely Green Johnson

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00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: plug and play absolutely, but just know what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get potentially get going into this thing. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: think the whole thing about positional value with guard is overdone,

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Speaker 1: a little bit obvious. I mean, Zach Martin speaks for himself.

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Speaker 1: We've seen guys like Brandon Shurff get drafted really highly,

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Speaker 1: but two guards in the first round that is not common.

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00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: It's not super common anyway. I mean, are these both

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Speaker 1: these are both first round locks in your opinion, And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying like gone by twenty four, but just

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Speaker 1: first thirty two picks. I think that to me, That's

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Speaker 1: why I said I green Ingram and Johnson. I mean

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Speaker 1: I green to me would be to use Jeff's term,

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Speaker 1: the cheater grade kind of a thing that one to

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Speaker 1: two and then Ingram and Johnson I have clearly in

621
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Speaker 1: the second round on my board. But I only have

622
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Speaker 1: twenty first round grades. So I mean, it's not like

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this above much. You don't have thirty

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Speaker 1: two first round grades, right, They're they're twenty four likely

625
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Speaker 1: going to take a second round player on off my board.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, unless it's one of those

627
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Speaker 1: safeties you know, Das Hill or somebody like that. Do

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Speaker 1: you have one more thing to add, Kyle. I was

629
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Speaker 1: just gonna add to your point a second ago about

630
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Speaker 1: how there hasn't been an interior offensive lineman taken. There

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Speaker 1: hasn't been one since twenty twenty. At twenty four, he's

632
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Speaker 1: a ruise out of Michigan, went to the New Orleans

633
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Speaker 1: Saints and not having a wonderful career. It's not been

634
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Speaker 1: a great start, but he's the last interior guy to

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Speaker 1: be drafted in the first round, the only one over

636
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Speaker 1: the last two years. I just had to play center

637
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: and God no, no, he's had a lot on his plate.

638
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: I just I can't wait again. I'm a broken record.

639
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: But the way this is gonna shake out, like one

640
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: of these guys is gonna go They're gonna take, They're

641
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: gonna I'm I would willing if you were going to

642
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: do the latent Vanderish say who they're gonna take guy, Yeah,

643
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna take an offensive, They're gonna take a guard

644
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: at twenty four. I believe that's what you would That's

645
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: if I had, if I had to bet right now,

646
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: that's what I would say, and then take a guard

647
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: end with you unless the receiver they love falls to

648
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: that spot. I think I agree with you. I don't

649
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: want to derail the segment, but it's a rackle in

650
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: that conversation a little bit as well. So I feel

651
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: like this tackle class continues to feel more and more

652
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: and more top heavy. We mentioned Penning early. Of course,

653
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: you had the top three guys with Aquan Wu and

654
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: we actually goss. You know, Will McClay doesn't like to

655
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: give out a lot, but he was gushing about the

656
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: tackle class. No, that's what news, Will. They're all gone, Yeah,

657
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: well Penning. Penning on my book is the fourth one, right.

658
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, yeah, you're gonna you're looking

659
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: at You're looking at guys down the line for sure.

660
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: But there's going to be the Cowboys at twenty four.

661
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: I believe I'm going to make a prediction. It's going

662
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: to take an interior offensive lineman, whether it's the center

663
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: from Iowa or one of these the Boston College or

664
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: Texas A and m Kid, I don't think that's a

665
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: bad bet at all. Going back to your point, we

666
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: say it a million times every year. You only have

667
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: sixteen to twenty first round grades. Yeah, Michael wants to

668
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: know we've been saying and it forever. The sweet spot

669
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: in this draft feels like it's between like twenty five

670
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: and sixty. He wants to know what about your second

671
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: round grades, like, and Brian, I would love to call

672
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: on your experience actually doing this. What is a normal

673
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: number of second round grades just on average in your opinion?

674
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: And then, well, toy do you have right now? Yeah?

675
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: I didn't count them up. I'd have to do some

676
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: quick math here on. He went to Lsu. I don't

677
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: want you to know exactly I mean when you start

678
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: talking to me. I feel like the depth of it

679
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: a position. I feel like I've got three to four

680
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: guys at every position, the only daily position. I have

681
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: like three safeties in that second round. I got four cornerbacks,

682
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: two inside linebackers. I have six defensive tackles. Whether you

683
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: have it as ones or threes together, Jeff's eyes just

684
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: like three no, because I thought it was funny. It's

685
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: six also three edges, three running backs, three quarterbacks, four guards,

686
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: two tackles, two tight ends. And then you could say

687
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: five wide receivers in the second It's where I got it.

688
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: So that all those numbers to me, I would love

689
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: to have. I mean, you don't just put window drift

690
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: the second round grades. Every one of those guys in

691
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: the second round I'd love to have. I'm not gonna,

692
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, we've we've talked about Brisker,

693
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: the Penn State Safety. You know, we've talked about you know,

694
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: we talked about you know, London Pickens, guys like that,

695
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: Clark from LSU, Harris from Alabama. You know, these are

696
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: all guys like and Harris had a nice commentat Yeah.

697
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: The problem is he's two hundred and twenty six pounds

698
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: though too. You know, you wonder if people are going

699
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: to look at that and say, I mean there's a

700
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: couple of these guys in this thing, like I say,

701
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: maybe the top linebackers when you look at Dean and

702
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: Harris and those guys are kind of a little bit

703
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: of undersized guys. I'm derailing my own segment right now.

704
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: But I was thinking about a boy. I was thinking

705
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: about that at the combine. If you look at the

706
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys history espec, like since McCarthy got here and before

707
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: that too, like they love size. I mean, like look

708
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: at look at Layton Vanderett, Like look at his physical makeup.

709
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: And it makes me wonder if they would even consider

710
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: a Nakobe Dean, like we've talked, Oh no, we are

711
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: really off base even talking about him, because no, no,

712
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: we we put him where we you know, you put

713
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: him where. But Dan Quinn Atlanta though, didn't have to

714
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: Dion Jones. Yeah, and that's taller than Dean though. Yeah. Six,

715
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like Dean's five eleven. Yeah, I

716
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: mean that's what he is. Yeah. So I mean Lloyd,

717
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: you know, Mike gut Feeling is a guy like Dean

718
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: will probably be there for you. But would they take

719
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: him that I don't know. If I don't know if

720
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: they're drafting a five. I think that if you if

721
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: you talked about if you talked about who the better

722
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: players are, I mean, if you're looking at your team,

723
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: if you said, Okay, we have to fix something. Now,

724
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: they're going to fix the inside of that offensive line.

725
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: They're going to fix the inside of that offensive line first,

726
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: is what they're going to do. By the way, just

727
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: to keep this conversation, here are the guys that they

728
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: talked to in terms of inside linebackers at the combine.

729
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: Leo Chanal from Wisconsin, Christian Harris from Alabama, combine Brian

730
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: uh Asamoa. Yeah, Brian Asamoa from Oklahoma. He's a really

731
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: small guy. And then Damon Clark. Those are the four inside,

732
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: so they kind of they kind of went two bigs

733
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: and two smalls. Good is what they did. I love

734
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean, Like, I'm not trying to write him off.

735
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: I hope that they would be interested in drafting him.

736
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: I just it's something I was thinking about, Jeff, I'll

737
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: lob this to you from Ju. He's definitely you know

738
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: what that means, right, It's about it is about a

739
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Nowah Johnson, that's not a wide receiver. He's

740
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: definitely not a forgotten man. But he can't do anything

741
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: because he's hurt. Jamison Williams, what like, what what do you?

742
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: What do you do with this guy? Like? Where where

743
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: do you? Like, I tell you where he's going to

744
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: get picks? That's what I'm asking. Yeah, I know how

745
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: the NFL work go. So what happens is you go

746
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: through this thing and you'll have a couple receivers plucked

747
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: off the board. They won't be named Jamison Williams. And

748
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: then Lo and behold, We'll all be sitting there with

749
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: our hand in a popcorn tub when Pat Mahomes gets

750
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams. That's where Jameson Williamson, Every every achieve, every

751
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: mock draft has them going to Tampa, you know, at

752
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: the end of the board. I mean, that's that right.

753
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: There's some of these guys like like Williams, these some

754
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: of these guys that are hurt. You know, these these

755
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: people are going to take advantage. I mean Tennessee did

756
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: that with a defensive tackle from Mississippi State a couple

757
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: of years ago, and maybe Jamison goes twenty fourth. Yeah,

758
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: I mean that would I don't think that's impossible. You

759
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: don't think this team would like to have that sort

760
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: of playmaking? I think I think I think this team

761
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: is looking at right now. They're trying to figure out

762
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: this whole thing. We've been talking about a bunch with

763
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: the Samari Cooper. Yeah, they need to get Gallop done

764
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: it before they even think about moving yeah Cooper. Yeah.

765
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: And I think there's a good possibility of receivers next

766
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: year are Cede Lamb, Michael Gallops, Cedric Wilson. See. I

767
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: don't think Cedric see it sounds like Cedric Wilson's getting

768
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: a lot of play. Cedric Wilson's gonna get a deal

769
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: that Yeah, Well, if that happens, then hot and darn,

770
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: let's go. We're picking wide early. Baby. Wait, all right, well,

771
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: let me just I'm always sorry. I'm no, no, We're good.

772
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to answer as many questions. Go ahead. We

773
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: won't let you know. I'm hoping you're going here anyway.

774
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: But well, I was gonna say your prediction earlier of

775
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: interior offensive line in the first round. My prediction is

776
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: that there's a receiver takeing them the first two rounds

777
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: by the cowboy. I think that is yeah, which tying

778
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: into that first three. This question is in a world,

779
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: in a world where Amari's gone and Gallop is signed

780
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: long term. Give me a receiver that you think fits

781
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: a basically Gallop and Lamb or your building blocks of

782
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: your receiver corps. Maybe you sign a veteran in free agency,

783
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: but receiver being a need, give me a guy that

784
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: fits with those two. If if Lamb and Gallop are

785
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: you're one and two, a guy that you like is

786
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: your three? Have to answer? No? Thank you? All right, Kyle,

787
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: Go ahead, and d Lamb can stay outside. I'll take

788
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: sky Moore in the second round and party. Um I

789
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: would I probably would have said, David Bells run six five.

790
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: He ran a four six five. I don't like slow

791
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: wide receivers. We talked about that last year a little

792
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: bit as well. I'm not a big fan of slow

793
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: wide receivers, and David Bell proved to me that he's

794
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: a slow one. I mean, route running, fine ball skills,

795
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: fine football IQ, toughness, it's all there. But in terms

796
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: of running a four six five, I'm not there. Can

797
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: I pick yours for you? Brian, go ahead, George Pickens,

798
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: damn right, Yeah, that's a good one. That's good. That's

799
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: probably right now. Sixty three one five. I think there's

800
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: a there's a certain amount of flash and explosiveness. And

801
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: you watch this guy. He the way he catches the ball,

802
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: it reminds me of Odell Beckham seriously, with those type

803
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: of hands. I mean he plays when he's running with

804
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: the ball, he keeps it like in one hand and

805
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: you could just see the hand strings like holding out.

806
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: Oh it's crazy. I mean, but he goes high low.

807
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but he's not a friend. I mean

808
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: he's a bigger receiver though. Yeah, I mean to me

809
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: that that's the guy. If to me, if his knee

810
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: were to check out, I mean check out in a

811
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: good way, not check out, give him a bad thing.

812
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean I would be all over this. And I

813
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: mentioned this guy, this Alex Pierce from Cincinnatti a good combine.

814
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: There's another guy. I mean, we talked about him before

815
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: the combine. He's sixty three, he's two hundred and eleven pounds,

816
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: he's tough. I mean, you watch Ritter, You're trying to

817
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: evaluate Ritterer. Yeah, and he's throwing the ball to this

818
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: one guy that's number twelve the whole time, and you're going, well,

819
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: who is this cat? And then you look it up

820
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that's a cat. I get to watch

821
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: down the stretch and he watched and he runs a

822
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: four three three and he jumped out of the gym. Yeah.

823
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, body control, balance, all these things

824
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: with this guy too. I'm having an existential crisis because

825
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: one of my biggest draft crushes is an FCS guy,

826
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys have North one of those North Dakota

827
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: State kid, Christian Watson, like him, he had a I mean,

828
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: I scouted his dad, I loved him at the senior

829
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: goal and then he goes to the combine and does that.

830
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: I remember you were gushing on him in mobile. I'm

831
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: broken this year. Yeah, there seemed like I just can't

832
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: I can't recall a year. I got so many people

833
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: that you name, You're like, holy cow. The combine he had,

834
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: Like Chad Muma destroyed the combine. Every Georgia linebacker destroyed

835
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: the combine. The combine. It's it was one way or

836
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: the other though. It is either they destroyed it and

837
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: they like jumped out of the gym. And there's two things,

838
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: great things or they was just awful. There's two reasons

839
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: they install Ohio States Track downhill because it's it's laser right. Yeah,

840
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: well there's two things I think, and this is the

841
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: scouts had an int is not. The one is that

842
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: you've got these testing centers. These kids prep for the workout.

843
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: They know what drills are coming as far as to

844
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: like studying for a test. Okay, one who didn't perform, well, yeah,

845
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: probably went to the wrong place. Well, or they didn't

846
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: go at all, yeah, or they just tried to work

847
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: on their own. Yeah. So like the two fastest times

848
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: were two kids from the same same group that ran.

849
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just there's also a theory though, that too,

850
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: that they let them roll and do things more. The

851
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: scouts believed that because the combine was put on television,

852
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: that because it was a primetime event where they goosen

853
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: the numbers for I'm just letting them roll a little bit. Now,

854
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: there's there's there's scouts that came up to me and

855
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: talk to me and said, there's no way this is

856
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: the fastest combine in NFL history. There's no way because

857
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: because there were such classes, there was some there was

858
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: some rolling, there was some you know, if you look

859
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: at the prime time numbers, if you look at the

860
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: primetime numbers, they were really really high. We've gotten to

861
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: the bottom of this. I just that's just scouts thinking. Man,

862
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: you have scouts are we drive around you think of

863
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: great idea and to every every scout in the NFL

864
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: is furious. Well, if you look at if you look

865
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: at the if you look at the three cone the

866
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: three cone drill, there weren't like the numbers weren't great

867
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: for that for some reason. So there's the scouts have

868
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: all on Well, yeah, That's what I'm saying. They they

869
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: the NFL is like, listen, hey, what's what's the buzz

870
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: about the combine? It's running, running, running, running, That's the

871
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: whole buzz, and they put that in prime time. I'm

872
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: not gonna pick a receiver anymore. It's really interesting colling

873
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: to beat writers. The Cowboys have signed Noah Brown to

874
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: a one year deal. It's over at least like wide

875
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: receiver dream is done. He is your fifth one least

876
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: semi Phihoko doesn't have to put weight on now and

877
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: try and God, God bless Noah brown Man, seventh pick

878
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: in the draft, seventh round pick, still kicking around, third contract. Sorry,

879
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: what's up? By the way, your guy George Pickens, first

880
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: player they met with your guy, Christian Watson. Second player

881
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: they met with Combly the first two off the board.

882
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: Bring me two hundred million dollars? Are you? Are you

883
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter now? Ian Rappaport tweeted out Rogers with the

884
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: pow years two hundred million. Yeah, Holy see. My guys

885
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: in Green Bay told me that what's going to come

886
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: as at the said between forty five and fifty. It's

887
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 1: dead on fifty fifty, guys, in Green Bay. Is Jordan

888
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: Love of future Washington Commanders something because Rogers having fifty

889
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: three of this is guaranteed. Holy cat, real quick, we're

890
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: going We're going way long. No, I don't care. It's

891
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: interesting that could come in play in the draft. Jordan

892
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: Love first round picks. Something could happen. One guy I

893
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about, who I also feel like gets

894
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffles. Guy more a little bit. Coullie

895
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: wanted to hear about Davante Wyatt, another Georgia guy that

896
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: had an amazing work. Yeah, I think he'll go in

897
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: the first round. I think there's a pretty good chance

898
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: he goes in the first round because I think he'll

899
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: be the first three technique taken, and the first three

900
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: technique taken generally is going in the first round. So

901
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Duvante White is picked somewhere

902
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, Yeah, twenty eight, something like that. Jeff's right,

903
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of felt like this guy could

904
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: play one or three. Yeah, I was just that's just

905
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: how man you watch him come off the ball and

906
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: the movement stuff. I mean again, I'm not I'm not

907
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: surprising in any Georgia kids. I'm just not really not.

908
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: You can watch the tape. They all play fast, they

909
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: all run, and they're all really good football players, and

910
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: they're all gonna get picked high and they out and

911
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: they win a national championship. That's why it's defense. College football. Seriously,

912
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: if you're if you're it's not that hard. Scouting is

913
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: not that hard when you play. When you watch Georgia

914
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: and like, oh, I'll take that big monster. Oh I'll

915
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: take this guy it's really fast. Oh I'll take this linebacker.

916
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: It looks a little short, but he's making every tackle.

917
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: If he's if he's if he can play, I'll take

918
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: this safety that can run really fast too, if he

919
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: can play one in three and has those measurables and

920
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 1: can run a four, seven, seven, or we're not talking

921
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: about him enough as a twenty four overall kind of guy.

922
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: I really I think you should talk about it. I

923
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: just kind of felt like though that to me, I

924
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: say the one part of it, because I think he's strong.

925
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: I think the guy I think he's he's so quick

926
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: with his hands that like, you know, he's not gonna

927
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: let people block him, and that's in the hands get away.

928
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: But Yeah, I mean absolutely. I just don't think that

929
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: they would take a defensive lineman. I just don't think

930
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: they would take a tackle at twenty four. They've never

931
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: done it before, at least not in my memory. All right,

932
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: speaking of breaking news, appreciate that, Jeff. There were some

933
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 1: more Cowboys news involving Dalton Schultz. We're gonna talk about

934
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Speaker 1: to join today. Welcome back to the final episode of

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Speaker 1: the Draft Show. We try not to really get two

976
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: into the Cowboys weeds here on the Draft Show because

977
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: there's nineteen other shows on this platform that do that.

978
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: But Fellas, I do think it's interesting. We saw this

979
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: coming about a week ago, but Dalton Schultz has been

980
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: tagged by the Cowboys. He is now under contract for

981
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season at something like ten point

982
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: nine million dollars. Not so much curious about that. I mean,

983
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: we'll have so much time to get into what that

984
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: means for Marii Cooper and a whole bunch of other things.

985
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: But in terms of the tight end position, I would

986
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: like to have a dialogue about what that might look like.

987
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: Because for my money, you do this, You do this

988
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: as a stop gap, probably right because of the Cowboys,

989
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: and they told you themselves at the combine they don't

990
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: feel good about their numbers at this position, and so

991
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: I just think this is a prime position to be

992
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: targeted in the draft and how might they do that? Hi, everybody,

993
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: you're bad. I guess I'll give you a better opinion

994
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: in like seven weeks, because it's a long time because

995
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: what do they what do they view this as? Because

996
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: in my mind, the natural thing for the Cowboys to

997
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: do would be, now that you've tagged Dalton Schultz, would

998
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: be to actually work out a long term deal so

999
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: that his cap hit is less than eleven million dollars

1000
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: this year, so then you can go about signing Randy

1001
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: Gregory and jay Ron Curse whatever. So in my brain

1002
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is hold on while we work out

1003
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: a long term deal. And I don't feel like other

1004
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: people in the room think that. I feel like you

1005
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: guys think that this might be a play on the tag.

1006
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: I think this is a play on the tag. I'm

1007
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: with you. I think they've got to July fifteenth to

1008
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: work out a deal. I think with that cap hit

1009
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: being a little bit less would help them out tremendously

1010
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: than playing with the ten million dollar tag. Moving forward

1011
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: to get that long term deal done before July fifteenth,

1012
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: I think it is absolutely doable. What do you think, Brian? Yeah,

1013
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: if Blake Jarwin hadn't just just totally destroyed himself, yes,

1014
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: this might be a different situation right now. I think

1015
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are buying themselves some time. I know Will

1016
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 1: McClay likes to protect himself. I understand what Jeff's saying.

1017
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: I just think this tight end draft actually is too

1018
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: good to not dip the toe in the pool, you know.

1019
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: I feel like that. At the combine they talked to

1020
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: a couple of different guys we've mentioned. I you know,

1021
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm really high on this. I'm gonna say it's an

1022
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: a dull shit. Greg dulcet us gotta be careful with that,

1023
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: I know, but I think that's what I mean. I

1024
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: was trying to chick chick ula, right, Yeah, UCLA tied

1025
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: end Greg dulcet Dulshitz. I can't say his name, careful, Brian, careful,

1026
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: I can't say his name right, I'm sorry. Sixty three

1027
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: but anyway, he's uh yeah, I mean, you know this

1028
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: is there's there's him. They've talked about him, Charlie Kohler,

1029
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: you know if Iowa State. You know, these are guys

1030
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: that are I kind of feel like though, when they

1031
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: get down in that third, fourth round. They did the

1032
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: same thing with Schultz. You know, they find a guy

1033
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: that's got a little bit more blocking ability. The kid

1034
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: from UCLA can block, and he can line up in a

1035
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: a bunch of different spots. You might have to go

1036
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: earlier than maybe the third round on him. Yeah, where

1037
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: do you start looking? I got him in two and

1038
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: that's a problem if you're for team building, because nobody's

1039
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: gonna say, I mean they took we took our guy

1040
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: from San Diego State here with Gavin Escobar in the

1041
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: second round and that didn't work out so well. This

1042
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: guys better than much better than Gavin Escobar ever thought

1043
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: about being. But I kind of feel like though that

1044
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: maybe if it's not him, then you take a look

1045
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: at like I say, the Kohler, he's six seven In

1046
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: two fifty six, they talk to Isaiah Likely from Coastal Carolina,

1047
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: six seven. I'm sorry, yeah, can we go him back

1048
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: to you know, you watch him play. Yeah, you watch

1049
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: him play, and it's interesting because I would not say

1050
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: he's the most athletic runner, but it's six seven. You're

1051
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: gonna look funny running that way anyway. But what he

1052
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: does is he's got body control and he's got balanced

1053
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: and what happens is at sixty seven when he goes

1054
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: and gets the football, nobody can get to him. Is

1055
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: I mean, they're hitting him his wrists. You know, he's

1056
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: extending and they're hitting his forearms and wrists trying to

1057
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: knock the ball away because he's got a massive wingspan

1058
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: on the top of the six foot seven I mean,

1059
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: it's like playing four. I mean, seriously, you watch him

1060
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: play and he's he's got I mean, he's got to

1061
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: feel like that. With Dalton Schultz. What's the one thing

1062
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz does. He's got to feel for where to go, run, stop,

1063
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: sit down, catch the ball. This guy in the red zone,

1064
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, is a killer because again he kind of

1065
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: gets up the field and then he knows how to

1066
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: get to space and they throw him the ball and

1067
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: he's so damned tall that he makes these plays. So

1068
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: that's a problem for defenders. They can't reach on him

1069
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: when he extends. So I think that's that's one of

1070
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: those guys you talk about. The third fourth round. That's

1071
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: I think the sweet spot for what the Cowboys are

1072
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: Probably they're probably not going to get the two best

1073
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: tight ends, but they'll probably get guys that make sense

1074
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: for them in that third fourth round. The names that

1075
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: we've mentioned throughout, Ray McBride from Colorado to Day, Jaylen

1076
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: Widermeyer's another guy, they're a lot. Yeah, Kay Dotton from Washington,

1077
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: Jeremy Rutckard from Ohio State. Are you saying those guys

1078
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: are too early for the Cowboys window because the early guys,

1079
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: That early guys to me is going to be Like

1080
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: I say, I think UCLA's too early, and I think

1081
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: Tech is ay and m Whitemeyers. Yeah, it's too early. Yeah.

1082
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the kid's name because I

1083
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: don't want to don't do it. I'm not and I'm

1084
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: not gonna say it when he gets drafted. If he

1085
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: gets drafted here, I'm gonna have to learn we'll just

1086
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: call him great. But yeah, I mean, baby, I know

1087
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: these guys. I know these guys really do. Like Trey

1088
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 1: McBride from Colorado State. You can watch you can watch

1089
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 1: Trade McBride. Man, I mean, this guy is really tough

1090
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: runner after the catch. I mean, Colorado State was bad

1091
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: last year. This was the kid that had He was

1092
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: the bright spot of a team. But he's like an

1093
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 1: old school why tied end it lines up in line

1094
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I mean, man, he's pretty impressive.

1095
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: And I mentioned, you know, you mentioned Kyle about kay

1096
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: Dot and that this is one of my favorite kids,

1097
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 1: and you were early on him. He is banged up. Yeah,

1098
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: he's banged up, and he's probably you're gonna have to

1099
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: go work him out and stuff. But you watch kay

1100
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: Dot and play at Washington, I mean he makes a

1101
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: ton of play. So to me, you know, if they

1102
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: don't go the route or trying to extend, I think

1103
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: they've got some seriously good options there at tight End. Honestly,

1104
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: even and Jeff could be right, that's my could very

1105
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: well be right. My read on it is that I

1106
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys we're gonna say, Dalton, we really appreciate

1107
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: everything you did here. We're gonna roll with Blake because

1108
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: he's cheaper and we're gonna take that nice compic we

1109
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: get when you sign a sixty million dollar deal with

1110
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: the Jets, and then they found out like Jarwin might

1111
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: not be available. And look, I get that there's some

1112
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: great tight ends in this class. There aren't very many

1113
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: tight ends who can come right in and play. It's

1114
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: just not a position where that happens. And those guys

1115
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: tend to go in the top fifteen if they are

1116
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: that good. Well, look at the guys that you have

1117
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: or had underneath Jarwin and guys like that over the

1118
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: last couple of years, the Jeremy Sprinkles of the world,

1119
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: the Blake Bells of the world. You don't need a

1120
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: guy to come in and make plays. That's what Dalton

1121
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: Schultz is doing at the moment. You may need a

1122
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: guy to come in and fill a role, either as

1123
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: a blocker or as a red zone threat. And that's

1124
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: kind of where I'm with Brian on the Harley Cohler

1125
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: type of pick, because Dalton Schultz, as good as he is,

1126
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: he's solid in the red zone. He's not a red

1127
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: zone mismatch. You could have a red zone mismatcher. You

1128
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: haven't had that on this roster. That's where I'm a

1129
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: little bit worried about Trey McBride. Because he had one

1130
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: touchdown grab or zero touchdown grabs this past season. He's

1131
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: not that same kind of red zone threat in between

1132
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: the twenties. He's as good as anybody. Yeah, But at

1133
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: the same time, I want a guy who's going to

1134
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: either be a mismatch inside the twenty yard line or

1135
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: somebody that's just gonna run people over and block in

1136
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 1: the run game and find some time in the past

1137
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: game every now and again. Does the crap quality of

1138
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: his team play into that at all? Yes, I think

1139
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 1: it does. Like I don't think be better in a

1140
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: better quarterback wasn't great, he wasn't good. I don't think

1141
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: it was a it was one on the bad team.

1142
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: I still think there's things that he could have done

1143
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: to be better in the red zone. And this is

1144
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: a big list of tight ends that are understrict or

1145
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: free agent tight ends, lots of them. Yeah. Yeah, So

1146
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: maybe if you don't want to go that route, you know,

1147
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: maybe they can bottom fish My plan for Dallas Cowboys

1148
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: this offseason does if it doesn't help Dak I'm not

1149
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: interested in you telling me anything else. That's my plan

1150
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: right now. Like, if you can't help me with an

1151
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, you can't help me with a receiver. You

1152
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: can't help me with a tight end or need of that.

1153
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm really not interested in talking to you about it.

1154
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: You know, how much do you think this helps Dak

1155
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: keeping Schultz around? He obviously it's big because Dalton Schultz

1156
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: has figured out how to get open and like I said,

1157
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: the stop and stuff. They could send the defense one way,

1158
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: he goes the other way. He makes plays. You know,

1159
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is never gonna break away and tackles. I mean,

1160
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna bang around and do some things. It's looked

1161
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: at as a bad thing. But who's the one thing

1162
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: on offense in the second half of the season they

1163
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: had that was any with any consistency throwing the ball

1164
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: eight yards of Dalton Schultz and he gets another three

1165
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: yards on top of that. And it's always the blanket

1166
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: Yet it worked for another guy. Anything, anything that, anything

1167
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: that's not helping Dak. I don't want to talk about.

1168
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: That's how I look at this. You've got you've got

1169
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: grades on all these guys, right, Yeah, can you just

1170
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: kind of read down them for me? I don't have

1171
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't have a first round tight end. No, but

1172
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: just tell it like gimme Widemeyer UCLA second round Oughton Rutger, McBride,

1173
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: Rutger's Ohio state. McBride is Colorado state. Kohler likely in

1174
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: the fourth or two. In that end, my guy, Trey

1175
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: McBride's your fifth tight end, Uh I do I'm coming

1176
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: after you? Where do you have them? Jeff? What's with

1177
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: all the questions? I just want you to engage In

1178
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: the second Trey McBride ahead as a two three, and

1179
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: then I have Rutgert as a three, likely as a four.

1180
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: And that's where I have Rutgert. Brian seen seventy six

1181
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: other guys that I haven't seen yet. But I'm also unemployed,

1182
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: so I got a lot of time today. It's fair

1183
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: to get real caught up. I just think it was

1184
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: a trip. Trip was great. I didn't watch a lot

1185
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: of tape. I didn't make some YouTube videos. You're gonna

1186
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: check out my page. It's YouTube streamer. Don't let don't

1187
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: let Brian make you feel guilty for having work life.

1188
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: I have never I I don't have work. That's this

1189
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: is the name of your game. Yeah, come, I leave

1190
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: work at eight o'clock on a Tuesday in the offseason

1191
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: and you're like, really, already, you're out of here. I

1192
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: missed one day of tape three two or three years ago.

1193
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: It was literally Valentine's day, yep, and he was like, oh,

1194
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: we's not watching tape now, huh yeah, come on, and

1195
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: he sidles up to me and he's like, Jeff's priorities

1196
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: are all out of while I got to do something

1197
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: about this guy. I just so Dalton Schultz the highest

1198
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: drafted tight it they he was picked one thirty seven,

1199
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: highest drafted tight end since Gavin Escobar. Um. I just

1200
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: see this as a situation where maybe day two or

1201
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: early day three you bring that guy in and let

1202
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: him season for a year. Yeah. I just feel like

1203
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: that they're looking at these guys, that's something that's something

1204
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: that and they're just trying to determine their stack will

1205
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: probably be different than our stack as far as I

1206
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: mean with the way they have. I just really do

1207
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: like the athletic ability of Aught and a lot. I mean,

1208
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: I know he's banged up. I hope people take a

1209
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: look at him if they can. To go back to

1210
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: your point about helping Dak, we made so much about

1211
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: what they made eleven picks last year nine of them

1212
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: were defenders. I don't know if this if the split

1213
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: is going to be that insane. I think a lot

1214
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 1: of these picks are going to be built around helping

1215
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. You need to offensive line, a tight end,

1216
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. I just think if they don't. If

1217
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: they don't, then you're going to find out real fast

1218
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott might become Carson Wentz or any of

1219
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: these guys that people move on from. Sky Moore will

1220
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: save us. And with that, I think I think we

1221
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: should begin and end every show with that. We will

1222
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: be back on Thursday. With the way things are going,

1223
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: there will probably be plenty more changes between now and then.

1224
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: It's a hectic time a year. We will be there

1225
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: to help you through all of it. Thank you for

1226
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: listening to the Draft Show. We'll see you next time.

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