Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, October third, twenty twenty three. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me your Man, MG,
Speaker 1: Marcus Grant joined by Michael f.
Speaker 2: Florio. We got a fun one today, folks.
Speaker 1: We are hitting up the fan mail bag to answer
Speaker 1: some of your biggest questions after Week four, and our
Speaker 1: palm Mattlecatta is gonna drop by with his top waiver
Speaker 1: wire targets. But let's get going with some of your questions.
Speaker 1: This one coming from Charlie, who asks should I trade
Speaker 1: Chris o'lave.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I know the answer to that,
Speaker 2: but you go ahead.
Speaker 3: I would say no, like right now, I feel like
Speaker 3: you're trading him at a low point.
Speaker 4: And then you look at the game he had this
Speaker 4: past week.
Speaker 3: I know he didn't put up big numbers or anything
Speaker 3: like that, but he had been seeing big volume previously.
Speaker 3: The big days are coming right now out Yesterday was
Speaker 3: more about Derek Carr than anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's surprising that the Saints really went with Carr.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're gonna go to reevaluate that because
Speaker 1: he just didn't look good at all. This one coming
Speaker 1: from ZD Boy, who wants to know how am I
Speaker 1: supposed to feel about Jayleen Waddle. The Dolphins offense is
Speaker 1: on fire, but Wattle consistently seems like the odd man out.
Speaker 1: Oh what are you thinking about that one?
Speaker 3: He did have a touchdown called back due to penalty yesterday.
Speaker 3: And I know the targets aren't all that high right now,
Speaker 3: but they weren't all that high last year either. He
Speaker 3: was averaging less than seven targets per game. Tyreek is
Speaker 3: the vacuum there.
Speaker 4: Wattle.
Speaker 3: Maybe he is not going to be a wide receiver
Speaker 3: one this season, but he's still far too good, I think,
Speaker 3: and brings too much upside that you gotta start him
Speaker 3: each week.
Speaker 1: Because the ceiling is so high, right and like right now,
Speaker 1: the floor has been very low.
Speaker 2: I get that part, but the ceiling is so high.
Speaker 1: It is a little concerning though, if you've got Jaalen Wattle,
Speaker 1: when you see Braxton Barrios and River Craidcraft and those
Speaker 1: guys started getting involved in the offense, because that does
Speaker 1: take away from Waddle. As you mentioned, Tyreek Hill's going
Speaker 1: to be the guy. I would try to hold the
Speaker 1: fort with him. But if you're getting a little bit nervous,
Speaker 1: put him out there in some trade offers, see maybe
Speaker 1: what you can get. A question from Gunner what to
Speaker 1: do with DJ Moore At this point, this feels kind
Speaker 1: of like a sell high maybe opportunity.
Speaker 3: You either sell high or you keep starting him. Like
Speaker 3: he's been at least thirteen Fantasy points in three straight,
Speaker 3: giving you nineteen Fantasy points per game in that span,
Speaker 3: and he's on pace for a career high in yards
Speaker 3: and touchdowns right now. Like if you don't believe it,
Speaker 3: try to sell high. But there's nothing, no benching or
Speaker 3: anything like that when it comes to Djmore.
Speaker 1: I think the other part of it is there really
Speaker 1: no other receivers that you can count on to take targets.
Speaker 1: Maybe cole Comet gets some work, but look, the Bears
Speaker 1: told Chase Claypool to stay home. I mean that's what
Speaker 1: it is right now in their wide receiver room. So,
Speaker 1: like Florio said, either you hold on him and you
Speaker 1: keep playing him, or you try to sell high and
Speaker 1: see what you can get. One last one, this one
Speaker 1: from Deshaun Djecks roster won long term tank dell or
Speaker 1: Nico Collins, oh textan on Texan violence.
Speaker 3: Here, it's Nico Collins for me who has been had
Speaker 3: three really nice games, two huge games. But this is
Speaker 3: just kind of a lesson at wide receivers, Like both
Speaker 3: of those two are in play each week. Variants is
Speaker 3: gonna make it where like one of them can have
Speaker 3: a big game, but the ceiling is too high, I think,
Speaker 3: and they pass way too much for me to want
Speaker 3: to get away from both of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nico Collins for me, is the number one wide
Speaker 1: receiver there in Houston. So he's the guy that I
Speaker 1: would roster long term. But I don't think you can
Speaker 1: go wrong with either of them, because as Mike said,
Speaker 1: there is going to be week to week, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be Collins weeks, there's gonna be Dell weeks. There might
Speaker 1: even be a Robert Woods week thrown in there at
Speaker 1: some point. But uh, Nico Collins is the wide receiver
Speaker 1: one for my money there in Houston. Looking at some
Speaker 1: guys maybe who aren't top of your list but maybe
Speaker 1: should be coming up, we have to buys starting in
Speaker 1: week five, so we'll take a break. Come back, we'll
Speaker 1: talk some waiver wire with our pal Matt o'cada. That's
Speaker 1: after the break on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Let's
Speaker 1: get some The top waiver wire targets for this week
Speaker 1: are pal Matt o'catas put together a list four week five.
Speaker 1: A couple of quarterbacks, actually a quintet of quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud, who's slinging it for the Texans, Sam Holl doing
Speaker 1: big things for the Commanders, Josh Dobbs playing really good
Speaker 1: football right now for the Cardinals, Zach Wilson coming off
Speaker 1: a surprising performance against the Chiefs on Sunday night, and
Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke, who very well might be taking over the
Speaker 1: starting job for the Falcons. Some running backs to note,
Speaker 1: Chuba Hubbard in Carolina, Jalil McLaughlin with Javonte Williams a
Speaker 1: little bit banged up in Denver, and Melvin Gordon who
Speaker 1: got a target which blew me away for the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Pass catchers Adam Feeland, Romeo Dobbs, Michael Wilson, the rookie
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, Josh Palmer, Quinton Johnston still in play
Speaker 1: for the Chargers of they do have a bye, keep
Speaker 1: that in mind. Curtis Samuel had a touchdown for the Commanders.
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd steps up with t Higgins banged up, John
Speaker 1: news Smith.
Speaker 2: Right now the number one tight end in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Let's pour some out for Kyle Pitts, Jake Ferguson doing
Speaker 1: good things in Dallas, and Cole Comet a couple of
Speaker 1: touchdowns for the Bears. This is a chance for us
Speaker 1: to welcome in the man who puts together our waiver
Speaker 1: wire list every week.
Speaker 2: It's Matt o'conna.
Speaker 1: You can check out his column at NFL dot com
Speaker 1: slash Waiver Wire.
Speaker 2: So we got five teams on a bye this.
Speaker 1: Week, Matt, we got the Browns, the Chargers, the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: and the Buccaneers. You were very high on some quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: including a rookie down there in Houston.
Speaker 2: What do you like about CJ. Stroud?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this feels like a big quarterback week, honestly, with
Speaker 5: a couple of good ones on Bie, a couple of
Speaker 5: performing some injury stuff. CJ. Stroud is the number one
Speaker 5: go to for me. He is already right now a
Speaker 5: top ten fantasy quarterback through not only the first four
Speaker 5: weeks of the season, but the first four weeks of
Speaker 5: his career. Two hundred and eighty plus yards and two
Speaker 5: touchdowns in three straight games, and that includes this week
Speaker 5: against the Steelers, who we all know are very good defense.
Speaker 5: Next three weeks are the Falcons Saints, which are both
Speaker 5: good defenses as well, and a week seven by And
Speaker 5: I don't care if you have an elite qb Ad Stroud,
Speaker 5: so your league mates can't have him. If you don't
Speaker 5: have an elite QB. Stroud is your new starter. He's
Speaker 5: lighting up the league. He is quite possibly already the
Speaker 5: lock for offensive Rookie of the Year at this rate.
Speaker 5: And I'm willing to run him out there, match up
Speaker 5: agnostic against anyone. In fact, I wanted to play a
Speaker 5: name game with you guys. If you're down really quick,
Speaker 5: would you drop these guys to add CJ. Strout, Dak Prescott?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah though yeah, Trevor Lawrence, Yes, I would
Speaker 1: want both.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'd be willing to drop him yet.
Speaker 5: Okay, but it's fringe.
Speaker 2: Here's fringe.
Speaker 5: Here's the big one. You're one and three or zero
Speaker 5: to four and you have Joe Burrow. Do you drop
Speaker 5: him for C J.
Speaker 2: Stroud. I'd be too scared.
Speaker 1: Like I understand the logic, I would just be too
Speaker 1: scared to make that move.
Speaker 2: I would one.
Speaker 4: Hundred percent start him.
Speaker 3: I would not be dropping Joe Burrow though, okay, but
Speaker 3: I would start Stroud.
Speaker 5: I I'm personally in my article recommend dropping Burrow if
Speaker 5: you're in a bad spot, if if, if you, if
Speaker 5: you can hold him, hold him. But Shroud is playing great,
Speaker 5: and I don't know what's going on with Burrow.
Speaker 2: I understand the logic. I just I'm chicken, that's all.
Speaker 2: That's just me.
Speaker 3: You have another quarterback here who coming into the year
Speaker 3: I said was going to be a value for as
Speaker 3: long as he could start, and then he wasn't able
Speaker 3: to get the ball to Terry and Dotson, and yesterday
Speaker 3: I was calling for his job, and then he went
Speaker 3: out and performed great and we finally saw him running
Speaker 3: the ball as well. So what about Sam how How
Speaker 3: do you feel about him moving forward?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I really like Sam Howe, at least as a stream starter.
Speaker 5: And by the way, let her just be known. Terry
Speaker 5: mclaurin's touchdown was barely a Terry McLaurin touchdown, and it
Speaker 5: was because someone fumbled the ball and he picked it up.
Speaker 5: So you still have to see how get McLaurin into
Speaker 5: the end zone properly. But he had another Star Wars
Speaker 5: the week again, despite throwing only one passing touchdown, so
Speaker 5: the second time he's done that, and it was again
Speaker 5: on the merits of his rushing ability, which he pointed
Speaker 5: out he had a rushing touchdown in Week one. He
Speaker 5: had forty yards this past week and almost beat the
Speaker 5: Eagles doing it. And he also topped twenty fantasy points
Speaker 5: just with his arm in Week two and was against
Speaker 5: the Roncos defense. I could throw twenty fantasy points again,
Speaker 5: but it's fine. The point is he is a very
Speaker 5: solid streamer in the right matchups, like Week five against
Speaker 5: the Bears, who are not very good. Fourth most passing
Speaker 5: yards allowed through the first month of the season. If
Speaker 5: you have Herbert, Gino, Deshaun all of whom are on
Speaker 5: buy and like we hit on, if you have Burrow,
Speaker 5: who you have to bench right now. I love Howell
Speaker 5: was a stream and he's on TNF this week.
Speaker 1: I believe he is Bears and Commanders on Thursday Night Football,
Speaker 1: so we get to see him in prime time.
Speaker 2: Everybody gets to watch Sam Howe.
Speaker 1: Wide receivers, Adam Feelin for years has been stiff farming
Speaker 1: the idea of regression. We keep saying he's gonna regress,
Speaker 1: and then he scores like a bunch of touchdowns, and
Speaker 1: this year were like fan Adam Feeling, and right now
Speaker 1: he's a top ten Fantasy wide receivers.
Speaker 2: I guess it's time to buy in to Adam Feeling.
Speaker 5: Right Yeah, in an odd way, he kind of feels
Speaker 5: like a very poor man's wide receiver version of CMC.
Speaker 5: We seem to try to find a reason not to
Speaker 5: make CMC the number one overall pick, and then every
Speaker 5: year he proves that he should be. Feelan he's just
Speaker 5: old reliable at this point with the emphasis on old
Speaker 5: now admittedly, but he scored fifteen plus PPR Fantasy points
Speaker 5: in three straight weeks. He's a top ten wide receiver
Speaker 5: on the season, and then includes a dud in Week
Speaker 5: one that he's left in the dust. Seven catches seventy
Speaker 5: six yards from Bryce Young on Sunday, and I think
Speaker 5: he learned from watching Andy Dalton the week prior. Dalton
Speaker 5: pepperd thelin It was a great showing for both of them,
Speaker 5: and Bryce, who missed that game, came back did the
Speaker 5: same thing. Dealing had another great week. Volume is king
Speaker 5: in fantasy even on terrible offenses like Carolina's, and thelan
Speaker 5: is currently on pace for one hundred and forty targets
Speaker 5: this season. That is what you want with especially in PPR,
Speaker 5: with your wide receiver. And let's be clear, there's not
Speaker 5: a super exciting ceiling, but it doesn't really necessarily matter
Speaker 5: when you're in near lock for double digit fantasy points
Speaker 5: and especially with the bye week starting to hit. Deelon
Speaker 5: is a permanent flex option as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 5: and becomes a pluggable wide receiver too, when your guys
Speaker 5: are on by you can rely on thelan throw him
Speaker 5: in there.
Speaker 4: Completely agree.
Speaker 3: And then another wide receiver that I've been hyping up
Speaker 3: a bit since before the NFL Draft is Michael Wilson,
Speaker 3: and I am very excited to see him now getting
Speaker 3: some love.
Speaker 4: Not only did he catch the two touchdowns yesterday, but
Speaker 4: he's been more and more involved in this Cardinals passing attack.
Speaker 4: So what do you think about Michael Wilson.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he has been And the hype was late on
Speaker 5: Michael Wilson, which is why PROP most of our listeners
Speaker 5: probably don't know his name. He's a third round pick
Speaker 5: out of Stanford, prototypical size six two, two hundred and thirteen pounds,
Speaker 5: and then he had a lot of competitiveness, and he
Speaker 5: had a very impressive Senior Bowl and both those things
Speaker 5: quote unquote Rocket had hit him up draft boards all
Speaker 5: the way to the third round after he had a
Speaker 5: slew of injuries in his college career kind of derailed
Speaker 5: what could have been maybe higher draft stock otherwise. But
Speaker 5: like you said, he's flashed a little bit already over
Speaker 5: the first few weeks before really breaking out on Sunday.
Speaker 5: Seven catches, seventy six yards a pair of touchdowns against
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers defense, So we can believe it
Speaker 5: to some degree. And I think his biggest asset, no
Speaker 5: pun intended, is his size. Because your other go to
Speaker 5: guys there are Marquise Brown and ron Dale Moore. Those
Speaker 5: guys are not big possession options. They're not great red
Speaker 5: zone threats. You do have Zach Ertz down near the
Speaker 5: red zone. But I think Michael Wilson is stepping up
Speaker 5: to a point where he's going to be maybe that
Speaker 5: guy and might end up leading this team in every
Speaker 5: category going forward. And with Joshua Dobbs playing as well
Speaker 5: as he is and maybe kind of returning at some point,
Speaker 5: I think Wilson could be the biggest surprise of this
Speaker 5: draft class and a very valuable fantasy outset moving forward.
Speaker 2: One more surprise, because the Cardinals have been a surprise
Speaker 2: through the first four weeks of the season with how
Speaker 2: well they have played. The record doesn't show it, but
Speaker 2: they've played some really good football so far this season.
Speaker 1: It seems like the Cowboys just keep turning over the
Speaker 1: tight end position, but they keep finding guys who perform.
Speaker 1: I guess Jake Ferguson is next in line.
Speaker 2: There, huh.
Speaker 5: I think so. He kind of first showed up in
Speaker 5: the offense with a touchdown in Week two, and I
Speaker 5: remember writing in the column, listen, guys, he scored a touchdown.
Speaker 5: What more do you want from tight end? To just
Speaker 5: stash this guy? Since then, he's averaged double digit fantasy
Speaker 5: points per game, top eight among tight ends. He led
Speaker 5: the Cowboys with seven catches on seven targets for seventy
Speaker 5: seven yards. So if you like seven, you should like
Speaker 5: Jake Ferguson in the Annihilation of the Patriots on Sunday.
Speaker 5: He has a clear rapport with Dak that's just obvious
Speaker 5: on the field, it's obvious in his stat line. It's
Speaker 5: he's very much seems to be the new Dalton Schultz,
Speaker 5: and this offense is humming, and a humming offense means
Speaker 5: red zone trips, and red zone trips are good for
Speaker 5: the player who leads the entire NFL with eleven red
Speaker 5: zone targets. He is their go to guy where it
Speaker 5: counts most for tight ends. I think he has a
Speaker 5: very good chance to lead the position in touchdowns over
Speaker 5: the remainder of the year. Obviously, Travis Kelce's always in
Speaker 5: that conversation, but Ferguson is a hot red zone option.
Speaker 5: I think he is a must add, and really at
Speaker 5: this point a must start in like everything, but sixteen
Speaker 5: leagues plus you're gonna throw in some ferglicious team names.
Speaker 5: That's a big game.
Speaker 3: So ad him and another tight end, Cole Comet. He's
Speaker 3: the tight end one right now. In Week four, caught
Speaker 3: two touchdowns, but he had more Fantasy points in Week
Speaker 3: four than the first three weeks combined. Is this just
Speaker 3: Comet going he's the Broncos or do you think that
Speaker 3: he is real moving forward?
Speaker 5: This is a little bit of column an, a little
Speaker 5: bit of column B, but it's more column B. And
Speaker 5: let's be clear, Kamett is not the most widely available player,
Speaker 5: but he is available in more than forty percent of
Speaker 5: NFL dot Com leagues, which is how we set the
Speaker 5: bar for this for the waiver column for the show
Speaker 5: that makes him eligible and is way too available. This
Speaker 5: guy is the one b really in that offense. He
Speaker 5: has one fewer target than DJ Moore and he's produced
Speaker 5: with it, admittedly not super great fantasy production over the
Speaker 5: first three weeks, but we saw the huge game he
Speaker 5: had last week eighty five yards, two touchdowns, twenty eight
Speaker 5: fantasy points, and that rockets him all the way up
Speaker 5: to top three among tight ends over the whole season.
Speaker 5: That's the kind of game he can have, which is
Speaker 5: why he needs to be in your lineup. But even
Speaker 5: when he doesn't put out that kind of production, he's
Speaker 5: going to be a startable tight end, which admittedly isn't great,
Speaker 5: and this really heavily depends on justin fields and his inconsistency.
Speaker 5: Can he be better than he was over the first
Speaker 5: three weeks. I don't think he'll be as good as
Speaker 5: he was against the Broncos because they're the Broncos and
Speaker 5: they might be the worst defense we've ever seen in
Speaker 5: the NFL. But I think he falls somewhere in between
Speaker 5: these two for the rest of season. Guys with this
Speaker 5: kind of target Shaw do not grow on trees. He
Speaker 5: is must roster and start.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about a guy to stash, and it's in Denver.
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams has a hip flex or. He's sort of
Speaker 1: day to day right now. But Jalil McLaughlin the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks has gotten some opportunity and he looked
Speaker 1: pretty good about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is not the best week for running backs
Speaker 5: on the waiver wire. Devon h Han stole it all
Speaker 5: last week, all the good running back juju, But Jalil
Speaker 5: McLoughlin's feels like the best option. And with Javonte day
Speaker 5: to day, we don't really know where how that's going
Speaker 5: to play out. I expect you might miss a week
Speaker 5: or two. I do think that McLoughlin is a stash.
Speaker 5: I say stash because they play the Jets this week
Speaker 5: and I do not really want to start this guy
Speaker 5: against the Jets. But like you said, he's looked very good.
Speaker 5: He had a great week, one hundred and four scrimmage
Speaker 5: yards and a touchdown on Sunday. He's an undrafted rookie
Speaker 5: who had a very productive college career, but they were
Speaker 5: at lower tier school so didn't get any draft capital.
Speaker 5: We didn't really know what to expect from him. But
Speaker 5: the tape has looked good. The production last week with
Speaker 5: Javonte exiting early looked really good. I think he's worth
Speaker 5: tucking away and maybe even becomes usable if Javonte is
Speaker 5: not fully healthy for a while.
Speaker 4: What about for fantasy defenses?
Speaker 3: Are there any that people who get ahead of right
Speaker 3: now and stream for week five?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I have three defenses that I love this week
Speaker 5: that are all very readily available. You have Aiden Hutchinson
Speaker 5: and the Lions who get Bryce Young and the Panthers
Speaker 5: this week. So that's like fifteen sacks and seven interceptions.
Speaker 5: I would guess not quite, but literally, something insane is
Speaker 5: possible with this defense, the way they've been playing, the
Speaker 5: way they've been blowing out teams, and the Panthers have
Speaker 5: been struggling. So love the Lions. Can't believe I'm saying this.
Speaker 5: It's wild. If you had told me I would say
Speaker 5: this in week five, I would have smacked myself. The
Speaker 5: Cardinals are playing the what look like toothless Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 5: this Yeah, they are this is just statistics not taped.
Speaker 5: They are the worst scoring and total offense in the league.
Speaker 5: It is it seems heavily Joe Burrow and his calf,
Speaker 5: but it might be more than that. At this point,
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on, but until we see
Speaker 5: them fix everything, you can start pretty much any defense
Speaker 5: except maybe the Broncos against this team. So I'm rolling
Speaker 5: the Cardinals out, and then I also really like the
Speaker 5: Colts in a divisional showdown against Ryan Tannehill and the Titans, who,
Speaker 5: if you have not watched this year, do not look
Speaker 5: good at all. Outside a couple Dereck Henry plays that
Speaker 5: kind of saved a little bit of that offense is future.
Speaker 5: I think they're few and far between at this point,
Speaker 5: and when they're not making those plays, they're getting absolutely
Speaker 5: ran through. So Lions, Cardinals, Colts top three defenses for
Speaker 5: the week.
Speaker 1: There it is all of the waiver wire goodness. You
Speaker 1: need to help bolster your roster heading into Week five.
Speaker 1: Check out Matt Ocatta. You can find him on Twitter
Speaker 1: at matt Ocatta, and you can check out the article
Speaker 1: at NFL dot com slash waiver Wire.
Speaker 2: Matt appreciate it.
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