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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, October third, twenty twenty three. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me your Man, MG,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant joined by Michael f.

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Speaker 2: Florio. We got a fun one today, folks.

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Speaker 1: We are hitting up the fan mail bag to answer

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Speaker 1: some of your biggest questions after Week four, and our

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Speaker 1: palm Mattlecatta is gonna drop by with his top waiver

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Speaker 1: wire targets. But let's get going with some of your questions.

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Speaker 1: This one coming from Charlie, who asks should I trade

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Speaker 1: Chris o'lave.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I know the answer to that,

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Speaker 2: but you go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I would say no, like right now, I feel like

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Speaker 3: you're trading him at a low point.

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Speaker 4: And then you look at the game he had this

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Speaker 4: past week.

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Speaker 3: I know he didn't put up big numbers or anything

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Speaker 3: like that, but he had been seeing big volume previously.

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Speaker 3: The big days are coming right now out Yesterday was

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Speaker 3: more about Derek Carr than anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's surprising that the Saints really went with Carr.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they're gonna go to reevaluate that because

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Speaker 1: he just didn't look good at all. This one coming

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Speaker 1: from ZD Boy, who wants to know how am I

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Speaker 1: supposed to feel about Jayleen Waddle. The Dolphins offense is

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Speaker 1: on fire, but Wattle consistently seems like the odd man out.

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Speaker 1: Oh what are you thinking about that one?

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Speaker 3: He did have a touchdown called back due to penalty yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And I know the targets aren't all that high right now,

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Speaker 3: but they weren't all that high last year either. He

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Speaker 3: was averaging less than seven targets per game. Tyreek is

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Speaker 3: the vacuum there.

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Speaker 4: Wattle.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he is not going to be a wide receiver

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Speaker 3: one this season, but he's still far too good, I think,

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Speaker 3: and brings too much upside that you gotta start him

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Speaker 3: each week.

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Speaker 1: Because the ceiling is so high, right and like right now,

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Speaker 1: the floor has been very low.

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Speaker 2: I get that part, but the ceiling is so high.

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Speaker 1: It is a little concerning though, if you've got Jaalen Wattle,

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Speaker 1: when you see Braxton Barrios and River Craidcraft and those

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Speaker 1: guys started getting involved in the offense, because that does

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Speaker 1: take away from Waddle. As you mentioned, Tyreek Hill's going

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Speaker 1: to be the guy. I would try to hold the

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Speaker 1: fort with him. But if you're getting a little bit nervous,

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Speaker 1: put him out there in some trade offers, see maybe

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Speaker 1: what you can get. A question from Gunner what to

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Speaker 1: do with DJ Moore At this point, this feels kind

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Speaker 1: of like a sell high maybe opportunity.

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Speaker 3: You either sell high or you keep starting him. Like

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Speaker 3: he's been at least thirteen Fantasy points in three straight,

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Speaker 3: giving you nineteen Fantasy points per game in that span,

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Speaker 3: and he's on pace for a career high in yards

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Speaker 3: and touchdowns right now. Like if you don't believe it,

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Speaker 3: try to sell high. But there's nothing, no benching or

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Speaker 1: I think the other part of it is there really

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Speaker 1: no other receivers that you can count on to take targets.

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Speaker 1: Maybe cole Comet gets some work, but look, the Bears

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Speaker 1: told Chase Claypool to stay home. I mean that's what

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Speaker 1: it is right now in their wide receiver room. So,

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Speaker 1: like Florio said, either you hold on him and you

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Speaker 1: keep playing him, or you try to sell high and

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Speaker 1: see what you can get. One last one, this one

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Speaker 1: from Deshaun Djecks roster won long term tank dell or

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins, oh textan on Texan violence.

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Speaker 3: Here, it's Nico Collins for me who has been had

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Speaker 3: three really nice games, two huge games. But this is

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Speaker 3: just kind of a lesson at wide receivers, Like both

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Speaker 3: of those two are in play each week. Variants is

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Speaker 3: gonna make it where like one of them can have

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Speaker 3: a big game, but the ceiling is too high, I think,

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Speaker 3: and they pass way too much for me to want

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Speaker 3: to get away from both of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Nico Collins for me, is the number one wide

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Speaker 1: receiver there in Houston. So he's the guy that I

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Speaker 1: go wrong with either of them, because as Mike said,

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Speaker 1: there is going to be week to week, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Collins weeks, there's gonna be Dell weeks. There might

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Speaker 1: even be a Robert Woods week thrown in there at

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Speaker 1: some point. But uh, Nico Collins is the wide receiver

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Speaker 1: one for my money there in Houston. Looking at some

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Speaker 1: guys maybe who aren't top of your list but maybe

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Speaker 1: should be coming up, we have to buys starting in

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Speaker 1: week five, so we'll take a break. Come back, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk some waiver wire with our pal Matt o'cada. That's

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Speaker 1: after the break on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Let's

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Speaker 1: get some The top waiver wire targets for this week

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Speaker 1: are pal Matt o'catas put together a list four week five.

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Speaker 1: A couple of quarterbacks, actually a quintet of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud, who's slinging it for the Texans, Sam Holl doing

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Speaker 1: big things for the Commanders, Josh Dobbs playing really good

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Speaker 1: football right now for the Cardinals, Zach Wilson coming off

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Speaker 1: a surprising performance against the Chiefs on Sunday night, and

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Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke, who very well might be taking over the

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Speaker 1: starting job for the Falcons. Some running backs to note,

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Speaker 1: Chuba Hubbard in Carolina, Jalil McLaughlin with Javonte Williams a

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Speaker 1: little bit banged up in Denver, and Melvin Gordon who

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Speaker 1: got a target which blew me away for the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Pass catchers Adam Feeland, Romeo Dobbs, Michael Wilson, the rookie

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, Josh Palmer, Quinton Johnston still in play

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers of they do have a bye, keep

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Speaker 1: that in mind. Curtis Samuel had a touchdown for the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd steps up with t Higgins banged up, John

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Speaker 2: Right now the number one tight end in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Let's pour some out for Kyle Pitts, Jake Ferguson doing

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Speaker 1: good things in Dallas, and Cole Comet a couple of

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Speaker 1: touchdowns for the Bears. This is a chance for us

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Speaker 1: to welcome in the man who puts together our waiver

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Speaker 1: wire list every week.

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Speaker 2: It's Matt o'conna.

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Speaker 1: You can check out his column at NFL dot com

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Speaker 1: slash Waiver Wire.

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Speaker 2: So we got five teams on a bye this.

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Speaker 1: Week, Matt, we got the Browns, the Chargers, the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: and the Buccaneers. You were very high on some quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: What do you like about CJ. Stroud?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this feels like a big quarterback week, honestly, with

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Speaker 5: a couple of good ones on Bie, a couple of

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Speaker 5: performing some injury stuff. CJ. Stroud is the number one

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Speaker 5: go to for me. He is already right now a

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Speaker 5: top ten fantasy quarterback through not only the first four

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Speaker 5: his career. Two hundred and eighty plus yards and two

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Speaker 5: touchdowns in three straight games, and that includes this week

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Speaker 5: against the Steelers, who we all know are very good defense.

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Speaker 5: Next three weeks are the Falcons Saints, which are both

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Speaker 5: I don't care if you have an elite qb Ad Stroud,

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Speaker 5: so your league mates can't have him. If you don't

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Speaker 5: have an elite QB. Stroud is your new starter. He's

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Speaker 5: lighting up the league. He is quite possibly already the

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Speaker 5: lock for offensive Rookie of the Year at this rate.

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Speaker 5: And I'm willing to run him out there, match up

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Speaker 5: agnostic against anyone. In fact, I wanted to play a

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Speaker 5: name game with you guys. If you're down really quick,

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Speaker 5: would you drop these guys to add CJ. Strout, Dak Prescott?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah though yeah, Trevor Lawrence, Yes, I would

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I'd be willing to drop him yet.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but it's fringe.

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Speaker 2: Here's fringe.

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Speaker 5: Here's the big one. You're one and three or zero

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Speaker 2: Stroud. I'd be too scared.

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Speaker 1: Like I understand the logic, I would just be too

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Speaker 2: I would one.

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Speaker 4: Hundred percent start him.

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Speaker 3: I would not be dropping Joe Burrow though, okay, but

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Speaker 3: I would start Stroud.

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Speaker 5: I I'm personally in my article recommend dropping Burrow if

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Speaker 5: you're in a bad spot, if if, if you, if

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Speaker 5: you can hold him, hold him. But Shroud is playing great,

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Speaker 5: and I don't know what's going on with Burrow.

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Speaker 2: I understand the logic. I just I'm chicken, that's all.

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Speaker 2: That's just me.

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Speaker 3: You have another quarterback here who coming into the year

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Speaker 3: long as he could start, and then he wasn't able

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Speaker 3: to get the ball to Terry and Dotson, and yesterday

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Speaker 3: out and performed great and we finally saw him running

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Speaker 3: the ball as well. So what about Sam how How

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Speaker 3: do you feel about him moving forward?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I really like Sam Howe, at least as a stream starter.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, let her just be known. Terry

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Speaker 5: mclaurin's touchdown was barely a Terry McLaurin touchdown, and it

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Speaker 5: So you still have to see how get McLaurin into

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Speaker 5: the second time he's done that, and it was again

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Speaker 5: on the merits of his rushing ability, which he pointed

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Speaker 5: Eagles doing it. And he also topped twenty fantasy points

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Speaker 5: just with his arm in Week two and was against

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Speaker 5: the Roncos defense. I could throw twenty fantasy points again,

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Speaker 5: but it's fine. The point is he is a very

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Speaker 5: solid streamer in the right matchups, like Week five against

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Speaker 5: the Bears, who are not very good. Fourth most passing

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Speaker 5: you have Herbert, Gino, Deshaun all of whom are on

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Speaker 5: buy and like we hit on, if you have Burrow,

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Speaker 5: who you have to bench right now. I love Howell

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Speaker 5: was a stream and he's on TNF this week.

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Speaker 1: I believe he is Bears and Commanders on Thursday Night Football,

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Speaker 1: so we get to see him in prime time.

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Speaker 2: Everybody gets to watch Sam Howe.

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Speaker 1: Wide receivers, Adam Feelin for years has been stiff farming

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Speaker 1: the idea of regression. We keep saying he's gonna regress,

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Speaker 1: and then he scores like a bunch of touchdowns, and

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Speaker 1: this year were like fan Adam Feeling, and right now

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Speaker 1: he's a top ten Fantasy wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's time to buy in to Adam Feeling.

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Speaker 5: Right Yeah, in an odd way, he kind of feels

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Speaker 5: like a very poor man's wide receiver version of CMC.

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Speaker 5: We seem to try to find a reason not to

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Speaker 5: make CMC the number one overall pick, and then every

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Speaker 5: year he proves that he should be. Feelan he's just

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Speaker 5: old reliable at this point with the emphasis on old

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Speaker 5: now admittedly, but he scored fifteen plus PPR Fantasy points

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Speaker 5: in three straight weeks. He's a top ten wide receiver

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Speaker 5: on the season, and then includes a dud in Week

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Speaker 5: one that he's left in the dust. Seven catches seventy

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Speaker 5: six yards from Bryce Young on Sunday, and I think

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Speaker 5: he learned from watching Andy Dalton the week prior. Dalton

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Speaker 5: pepperd thelin It was a great showing for both of them,

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Speaker 5: and Bryce, who missed that game, came back did the

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Speaker 5: same thing. Dealing had another great week. Volume is king

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Speaker 5: in fantasy even on terrible offenses like Carolina's, and thelan

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Speaker 3: And then another wide receiver that I've been hyping up

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Speaker 4: Not only did he catch the two touchdowns yesterday, but

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Speaker 1: It seems like the Cowboys just keep turning over the

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Speaker 5: let's be clear, Kamett is not the most widely available player,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about a guy to stash, and it's in Denver.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is not the best week for running backs

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I have three defenses that I love this week

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Speaker 1: There it is all of the waiver wire goodness. You

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Speaker 1: Check out Matt Ocatta. You can find him on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at matt Ocatta, and you can check out the article

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Speaker 1: at NFL dot com slash waiver Wire.

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Speaker 2: Matt appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again next week, and for the

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Tomorrow, we're previewing the first

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Speaker 4: You know the drill.

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Speaker 1: remember never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you

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